Kuntao

[clubcryptic]

To catch up on a few of the older posts. Kuntao is an ancient southern chinese martial art that has a basis in Fujian, China. It is older still. We train in Hakka Kuntao. These have been a wondering people for centuries ultimately immigrating to south China(poss from Mongolia) and eventually spreading out across the islands and beyond. Early on Kuntao and Silat clashed. Over time they meshed in to a single martial. It is a mixture of arts as listed below w/ Ba Gua(or Pa Qua) & Kung Fu.

[clubcryptic]

Mider999, yes to answer your question. It is my understanding that Pak Victor de Thouars, Master Willem's younger brother, is considered by Dan Inosanto to be his Silat teacher and that he considers Willem to be his Kuntao teacher. The 2 younger de Thouars brothers and Guru Dan go back many years.

[windingdriveway]

I was told kuntao is a hybrid between native silat systems of Malaysia, Indonesia and southern Phillipines and introduced southern chinese kung fu...

[momobena]

What's the difference between Kuntao and Pencak Silat? I hear there's been a long-term rivalry between the 2 in Indonesia

[GaolisVideoLog]

@momobena Kuntao originated in Fujian, China. from there it moved to the Philippines and later to Indonesia. Pencak Silat is a fighting form originated in Indonesia. Since Indonesians don't like Chinese (just look at the massacre from 1998 where Malay-indonesians slaugthered hundreds of Chinese-Indonesians) a rivalrz occured. In the Philippines no rivalry between Arnis and Kuntao happened.

[MDNSBS]

@momobena i know this is an old comment but if you still want to know kun tao is the combination of silat ,tai chi, wing chun, and some other one that i have no clue how to spell but its pronounced like" back waa"

[ninjaboj]

Sounds to me alot like Jujitsu, lethal in that way. You know they (jjs) don't have competitions cos if they did, theyd all end up either in hospital or dead! thats what I hear anyway. I do wado ryu karate mind, easier on the joints! Check out my kata vid!!!

[naughtiusmaximus222]

Jujitsu compete all the time. Not just brazillian Jujitsu, but plenty of other styles. The majority of modern derivatives of it are not designed to kill - definitely not in the same way that Silat and Kuntao are.

So many people subscribe to the myths around Jujitsu, but much of the time it's popularised rubish these days. Silat has been subject to years of natural selection through the hardest methods possible. They are truly lethal systems.

[ninjaboj]

hey mate, can you teach me how to fight?

[kito96]

watch videos lol.

[clubcryptic]

Just an FYI for those who do not know the Master teacher of Marcelo's(and mine) martial art. His name is Willem de Thouars, a 73 year old master, who started training when he was 5 years old in Java. He now regularly does seminars in Stockholm, Guadalajara, Boston, Miami, and many other areas. Anyone who is in to southern Chinese or Indonesian martial arts knows of Willem de Thouars (search Youtube or Google him). Kuntao Silat de Thouars is an amazing martial art with some exceptional people!

[clubcryptic]

In order to form an opinion, one must do their research and get concrete facts. A 2 minute video would hardly represent the depth and complexity of any martial art. Kuntao Silat de Thouars is a very complex martial art that requires years of study and hard training.

Marcelo has studied martial arts or more specifically Imua Shantung Kuntao and Kuntao Silat de Thouars for about 30 years. He is also an Iraqi war veteran having served for 27 months. He knows combat as well as anyone.

[Mider999]

@clubcryptic Is this the same Kuntao that Dan Inosanto teaches because in his website it says that Kuntao is one of the arts he teaches along with silat, and kali etc etc.

[budotenchi]

Thank you for sharing this video. Much respect to you Mr. Rainero. I have been overseas in combat situations and can guarantee you these movements will save your life.

[TrentBeach]

Marcelo is an excellent example of one of Uncle's long time students and senior instructor in Kuntao Silat De Thouars. I remember the first time I trained with Marcelo years ago when learning from Uncle. Thank you for sharing. I hope you're doing well Marcelo.

[SystemaMaster]

systema is only for intelligent peope who are filosophers also

[silatk]

I notice you like to go around different sites and stir things up. You are what many call a troll.

[schaelakhan]

I used to respond to instigators. I got one really good on this web sight. After thinking about all the energy I expended making this guy feel bad for posting crap. I apologized to him and surprisingly he apologized for being an asshole. My point is @ the end of the day the critic only shows his ability to critique and contributes nothing of value. As warriors we increase from the wisdom of the wise and not the from the folly of the ignorant. train hard!

[carcosa]

"the critic only shows his ability to critique and contributes nothing of value."

That depends, there's a hell of a lot of crap martial arts out there and without critics people who didn't know any better wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Problems occur though when the people who don't know any better try to become critics....

[MDNSBS]

@carcosa kun tao is very humble. i train under a student of Willem de Thouars it does not matter what people think, kun tao is real and real deadly

[SystemaMaster]

this is not a realistic style, fighting is about kwowledge of fysiologie and not about just doing a stupit set of movements

[alexandria321]

Thanks for the insights and "stupit" misspellings. The irony will not be lost on all the intelligent "peope" who read your comments.

[rockbertorueda]

Sifu Marcelo

por todas tus enseñanzas te agradezco de todo corazon.. aca en Guadalajara me entrenaste mucho tiempo y aprendi mucho de ti como persona y como maestro.. sabes que aca se te tiene presente... so nice to find the best teacher that i ever have here .. you broke my nose once... jajaja

[conradbui]

Sigung Marcelo is the real deal!

[daynavaughan]

NIIIIICE! i bet that was fun to be at J dogg..

xoxo your sis

[eskrimaguy]

Nice video bro.

[reshpeck]

If you want to see more of Marcelo, watch my video "No Justice."

[ldhablo666]

Marcelo is a bad-ass! Nice video!

[silatk]

Que memorias de el Kwon!!1

Also his brother Sigung Mario is a good teacher but also a great fighter.

A video of both would be nice!!

[silatk]

Saludos Marcelo!

Great teacher! Very technical!!Very detailed with his teaching! Sigung Marcelo hope to see in Colorado in June.

[silatyogi]

Great Video!

[reshpeck]

Isn't that the truth, mxtap?

[mxtap]

Sifu Marcelo is the best teacher I know in my life. He realy is a profecional. I studied in Mexico for 5 years. Kuntao realy work is efective in a real combact.