Google I/O 2011: Beyond JavaScript: Programming the Web with Native Client

[Gavrillo]

I think the best thing here is using python to compile. So sick of different architectures blowing up OS projects from the outset.

[pl33b]

999 videos :o

[DelvarWorld]

Does this mean that the server is doing the work of the game processing? Doesn't that drastically limit the number of players?

[pierre606]

Us C++ programmers are getting ready to inundate the net with fast routines, great 3d games and all kinds of neat stuff that you simply can't do today with the current crop of web languages.

[Venkat19824]

Why dint google give access to file i/o's directly?.Best way is to keep those api's as it is and modify things internally to that call rather than forcing all the existing legacy code to use Pepper API's.The whole C standard library and C++ standard library should be maintained as it is to maintain compatibility.

[entres]

@Venkat19824 security

[MrLinkski]

So basically Google wants you to execute everything independent from the OS, doesn't this concern Anyone's PRIVACY???????

[oktal3700]

@MrLinkski Not sure what you're getting at. Maybe you've misunderstood NaCl. It is not "software as a service". NaCl modules run on the user's CPU, just like when you download and run an exe file. It's just that they run within the browser window and can interact with it like a client-side script can. It has no more or less privacy implications than traditional client apps or web apps.

[Chronos2111]

@MrLinkski At least we would be free from the OS. You wouldnt need windows to run a whole bunch of apps, but you would be free choosing Android, Windows, MacOS, Linux or whatever. That would be cool. This tech is open source. Nothing will happen behind your back, like at microsoft.

[MrLinkski]

@Chronos2111 Well you can always obfuscate javascript code like Google and Facebook and make it much harder to follow. Take a look at the html source of gmail, I wouldn't want the GoogleUpdateService creating 50,000 more scheduled tasks in my OS, who knows what kind of data pre-processing is going on. I sure don't trust Android trying to make the OS uncrackable. see: .youtube.com/watch?v=A9WVmNfgj­tQ

[Chronos2111]

@MrLinkski You're a true microsoft evangelist. Be proud of it.

[MrLinkski]

@Chronos2111 i beg to differ, i'd prefer linux, with a black command prompt and access to my own crap, not something built on top of linux, only if it's XEN.

[MrLinkski]

In early 2011 Google chose to temporarily withhold the source code to the tablet-only Honeycomb release, which called into question the "open-ness" of this Android release.

[dmitrinesteruk]

Seems like a terribly awful idea to me. Not only is the suggestion to get people writing C++ again (please, not for the web!) but it probably implies another browser plugin/thingamajic just to get it to work.

[MrRedJoker93]

@dmitrinesteruk If you're using Chrome then there will be no plugin necessary. It's already built into the browser.

[dmitrinesteruk]

@MrRedJoker93 okay, so I use chrome, but not everyone does. so using this to build apps that run on, say, ie or an iPhone is kind of difficult. it's certainly good for google because they can boost their services on chrome, but for everyone else, I'm not so sure.

[Divinized]

C# implementation?

That sounds fun :)

[MrLinkski]

@Divinized LOL I love it! Actually it would probably be easier to write it in C# and translate to C++ instead of writing it in java!!!!!!!!!

[Chronos2111]

@MrLinkski C# is actually 99% the same as Java. Just for your info.

[altu892]

Crap! Everyone will use c++ now!

[seddona]

Dont be scared, this is a very very good idea for the future of web apps. LLVM is a much better client side abstraction than JavaScript.

[MrTheKenji]

This has got to be the dumbest idea ever.

Whats the point of web programming if you have to worry about what instruction set your using, or which combinations of assembly are "evil." It'll end up becoming that a malicious website will now have direct access to your CPU and GPU, DDOS right on your own hardware. Watch the Q&A.

[MrLinkski]

@MrTheKenji um why not just use JavaVM, FLASH, or like javascript? why allow google direct access to do data-processing? it sound's like they are building a distributed supercomputing platform to me?????

[chekwob]

Very interesting, though I dislike the idea of dhtml and running applets in-browser.

[MrRedJoker93]

Great talk!

[lnostdal]

Very cool, but I think we should focus on finding better, or safer out-of-the-box, low-level languages instead of adding indirections and workarounds (custom compiler) for C. ...but yeah, still very very cool... :)

[peppeddu]

This thing comes up every X number of years.

A special framework/compiler/adapter and all your client apps run on the web.

[zeffii]

18:51 my brain just exploded.

[MrLinkski]

@zeffii hahahahhaha! BOOM!