@MHS032 "And homo's have nothing to do with themselves. Their are those born gay. RIGHT? Nobody asked to be born, let alone born gay. I dodnt ask, neither did you".
God said Genesis 1:26. “LET US CREATED MAN IN OUR OWN IMAGE”. Is that mean to you God is gay? The answer is clearly NO! We are created in God’s image, that doesn’t mean we born gay. God created Eve to be with Adam, not the same sex. Whoever born and think he is gay is clearly a CURSE. They needed Jesus to set them free!
@MHS032 "People just praise God in a different way and have their own views and beliefs about God. In reality we are praising the SAME THING."
Your WRONG!
If Jesus didn’t come on earth, all religions could be right. But He came to shown us the true way to the Father is only through Him. THE LIFE, THE WAY AND THE TRUTH.
Islam is false.There was no prophet of God prophecy abt Muhammad's coming. No muslim know why they called Muhammad a prophet when there are no qualities of a prophet in him.
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@nhawarah AAHHHHH DUHHHHHH Like people yelling out OBAMA!!! Instead of MR. President! DUH! Got it! Get your head out from where the sun don't shine and repent and accept The GREATEST Prophet, GREATEST GOD in the flesh etc.......Repent Jesus is still waiting for your ignorant mind to wake UP!
@tigersforchrist THEN TRY TO READ YOUR OWN BIBLE SO THAT YOU WILL NOT BE AN IGNORANT PAGAN CHRISTIAN. JOHN 20:17Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE JESUS HAS A GOD.. IF YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEN ASK YOUR STATUE (JESUS) IF HE CAN MOVE AND ANSWER THEREFORE HE IS A GOD BUT IF HE CAN'T THEN YOU ARE A PAGAN.
@tigersforchrist YOU CAN'T EVEN GIVE THE VERSES OF THE BIRTHDAY OF JESUS FROM THE BIBLE BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IS A MAN-MADE RELIGION.. TRY TO FIND THE WORD "CHRISTMAS AND DECEMBER 25" ON THE BIBLE IF YOU CAN NOT FIND THEN ASK JESUS IF HE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION..
PAGAN CHRISTIANS WORSHIPING TO A STATUE THAT CAN NOT MOVE.. THE POPE IS THE LEADER OF PAGANISM.. JESUS IS A MAN NOT A GOD EVEN THE DECEMBER 25 (CHRISTMAS) CAN NOT BE READ ON THE BIBLE. EVEN JESUS DID NOT SAY THAT HE IS A GOD... ONLY APOSTLES SAID THAT JESUS IS A GOD.... A MISGUIDED PAGAN RELIGION WORSHIPING TO A STATUE THAT CAN NOT MOVE EVEN A LIZARD WILL WALK ON JESUS BODY HE CAN NOT REMOVE IT BECAUSE HE IS JUST A STATUE.. WHAT A BASTARD, MORON-PAGAN CHRISTIANS....
@lifeinaletterbox . READ: “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3). So,it IS clearly indicate that Jesus himself cannot be a God. KINDLY GIVE ME A VERSES ABOUT DECEMBER 25 AS A BRTHDAY OF JESUS..
@TrueBlueCanuck u said jesus is one true god.. Jesus is a prophet.. Maryam [mary] give birth to jesus [ isa a.s] peace be upon him.You said that Jesus is god because he was born without a father, that means ADAM is greater god la. -.- THINK LA. WHO CREATE ADAM AND JESUS AND MARY . WHO.. ALLAH .. ALLAH IS THE GREATEST GOD. GO READ YR BIBLE AND QURAN AND COMPARE IT. MORON
If you think God is almighty then why will you limit him to come as a form as a man. He can do what ever he wants. The only pardon is from God, thats why he was to come down from his thrown. There is no greater love, when one lay his life for other.
just like in matthew 26:39 "and he (jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face and prayed, saying, 'O my father, if it possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as i will, but thou wilt."
and for this guy who insult Muhammad the most, i admire how much you hold on your religion, but i feel sad for you because i think i know your religion better than you. .i've read a lot in bible and non in there teaches to insult people and judge w/out even knowing them,
well for islam every prophet i mean all the prophet are special. .and jesus is the prophet before muhammad. .jesus said in john 14:15-16 "if you love me, keep my commandments and i will pray the father and he shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you forever" that comforter cant be the holy spirit because the holy spirit was already in his time. .and besides if it is really true that he said he is a God. .why does he need to pray?
well for islam every prophet i mean all the prophet are special. .and jesus is the prophet before muhammad. .jesus said in john 14:15-16 "if you love me, keep my commandments and i will pray the father and he shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you forever" that comforter cant be the holy spirit because the holy spirit was already in his time. .and besides if it is really true that he said he is a God. .why does he need to pray?
Muhammad said Christ was great Christ said Muhammad and all other impersonators are demonic! CASE CLOSED! Repent from Islam before you end up in hell with Muhammad the child molesting murderer!!!
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Let why do they have the name Jesus the image to the beast in their Holy book.
Why do they not have Yahshua the Messiah name . Just like Christians have that abomination of desolation of daniel. When did this Idol get put in the Koran? When was the Koran altered to allow the image of Roman in their Holy book?
I just believe Jesus is the son of God simply by my faith and what the word of God says, when Jesus said "I'm the son of God" just after everything I've seen in the name of Jesus I can't deny this awsome love, and grace.idk I'm not here to argue just to state something of my life prolly no one will ever care about, lol.
Jesus belongs to us, and he is the most angry with those who throw shameful names like "son Of GOD!" GOD says in the quran, if he willed he could have a son, BUT IT DOESNT BEFIT OR MAKE SENSE FOR GOD TO HAVE A SON, as a son will eventually become like the Father, and no one is comparable to GOD. so anything GOD created, doesnt go past the limit of being his creatures. GOD is nothing like his creation, above all, space and time. in control of all things,powerful, mighty, the most merciful.
Or leave it either way. God bless you all, and no matter your believes, God loves you, and will always seek after u, no matter where you've been, or what you've done, one true love saves us all.
These arguments y'all are having are not even from the lord, your tossed about my each wave right and left...I'm a believer that Jesus was the son of God. Does that mean I need to bash Islam, did Jesus Christ not say love your neighbor as yourself and love your God with all your heart, that's the greatest commands he gave. I come here to stand and say Jesus has done so much to change me and save me and he's shown me so many miracles, that all I wanna do is show people this amazing love, take it
@Virginiaboy131 What? That doesn't make any sense. Jesus was not God. God does not pray to himself. He does not come in three forms. There is one God. And he can't die. I love Jesus though. :)
Well guess what thousands of Christians are killed by muslims each day! Islam is a religion of murder and hate! Did your god come down and die for you?! Nope, i don't think so. My God did. he rose 3 days later.
Christians and Jew's do not count as infidel (Kafr) because they are also people of the book who follow God. Also Muslims Christians and Jews (who follow the torah) should not fight because we are making satan happy. Freemasons are making us fight so they can buy time to prepare for the antichrist. Plese spread this message.
I am Muslim and proud and want just people believe me what i will gonna say is that Muslims are not the religion of the TERRORISM bec. yea i know that OSAMA bin Laden (BL) is the reason that make you believe that its the religion of TERRORISM but G.BUSH made you hate Islam more and more (9/11) and i hate BL ALSO BEC. HE MADE THIS BUT WHY HE MADE THIS BEC. ITS A LONG STORY WHO WANTS TO KNOW IT PM ME, and if Islam not the truth won't it be that whole word fighting it :D pm me for questions
@mohamedhazemohamed google youcef nadarkhani, he is a muslim who turned christian.. he is being murdered by the irani government for apostasy.. the quran states that if a muslim converts to another faith that he must be killed.. quran teaches murder, this is why osama bin laden is a good muslim. Quran teaches that infidels must be killed in the name of god, osama bin laden only did the work of muhammad.
@st3v3nftw yes u r right about APOSTASY from Islam and i know he must be killed and Quran is not teaching Murder and as that we christians live in Egypt With Muslim and Quran SAYS THAT U HAVE UR RELIGION AND WE HAVE OURS does this means that Muslim is the Religion of Murder and Bin Laden is not a good muslim wats he is doing to America is Revenge of wat G.BUSH did to him he betrayed him so wats hes doing is REVENGE OK AND HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING OF Muhammed did
@TheAturaya anyone that follows the muslim religion is a animal, your religion is a joke I have no time for uneducated fools like you enjoy your religion cause the only place you guys are headed is str8 to hell believe u me, not to heaven where 7 virgins are waiting for you if you strap a bomb on u blow up innocent children men and woman FOOLS !!!!
@TheAturaya REALLY U R A JOKE AND WHO IS KILLING MEN AND WOMEN YOU FOOL LOOK AT AMERICA WHAT'S DONE TO IRAQ AND PAKISTAN AND HELPING ISRAEL BY GIVING WEAPONS TO CONQUER PALESTINE AND NOW UR SAYS THAT WE KILLED MEN AND WOMEN AND TELL HOW WE DID THAT
@mohamedhazemohamed but israel has the rightful place for its territory.... they lost it to the muslims for centuries and they claimed in only 60-70 yrs. but iraq, iran and all the other islamic countries are constantly attacking israel claiming that its their land. so america tried to help israel to protect its land. and the things that america did to iraq and iran etc are the result of YOUR actions. dont blame it on america or any other Christian/jew countries.
@googieist IT IS JUST A PROPAGANDA, AMERICA HELP ISRAEL BECAUSE OF ECONOMY.. AMERICA INVADED IRAQ BECAUSE OF WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION BUT UNTIL TODAY AMERICA CAN NOT PRESENT THE SAID MASS DESTRUCTION. WHAT A PERFECT PROPAGANDA...
@nhawarah America is only a puppet to the federal reserve....check into Rothschild they are using us to set up their one world gov't. the officals are bought and threatened to do as told...they have leaders all over the world Muslim Jewish and Christian religion is irrelevant. Did you know that the pope and Muslim leaders are currently trying to create one world religion using Catholicism and Islam....of course Jewish Zionists will buy it but true Jews and Christians will not
shahin 3541 is your intelligence superior than the pharisees? they know, they are not stupid, they are 100% sure Jesus is claimimng to be God, no doubt about it. and Jesus was crucified on that account. now, 2000 years later your finding is, Jesus never claimed to be God? what a fake. Jesus never say he was God, but also he did not say he was not God. you know, ther are a lot of truth that was never written or spoken but remains the truth, and at your age you know that very well.
@jardis09 Your arguments appear to be more emotional rather than rational.No intelligence can take on what is revealed in The Quran,The Bible,TheTorah or any Divine Books. Jesus(p.b.u.h) did not say he was not god but he said :
"Hear,O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord." Mark 12:29
"And He sent unto him,"Why called thou me good ?There is none good but one, that is God: but if thou will enter in life, keep the commandments." Mathew19:16-17
How do you rate these verses over what is not said?
@shahin3541 no human intelligence can is correct but Jesus will send the Spirit of truth to guide us in all truth. Hear o Israel means do not worship other gods like stone. it was issued because people worships other gods. Keep the commandment cont.,,, and the young man went away sorrowful. why? b/c he cant follow the law. by following the law no one will be saved, the law is our tutor to bring us righteousness,
It doesn't mean other gods as you mean.it is clearly said about one God.Then who do you think is he ? Jesus(p.b.u.h) or his Father?people worshipped other gods but Jesus(p.b.u.h) talked about one God and not gods. Anyway, since there is no compulsion on belief you are free to hold your belief and so do I.We believe that all the Divine Books and all the messengers since the advent of Adam and till the revelation of e Quran hold the same essence of one God.
@shahin3541 i understand your answer but my point is,,, that statement was issued because people during that time worship many gods. today the bible has saying about people who worship many gods or people who do not believe in God. because of so many revelations the bible is saying "they are without excuse" and in another, "you believe in one God, even the devil believe in one God, and tremble."
my point is little by little God is revealing Himself to humanity.
Most of people think Islam new religion and different then any other religion , my advice to them : the god choice who ever he want , So How about if Mohammed (peace be upon him ) is the last and true prophet ?
When we look to Christianty to me it's doesn't makes any sense , i understand what Christiatny mean more then any christian , i seek in their logic and why they believed , they tried to believe in something against the whole message : God created humans .....
@shahin3541 God created every human with the Instinct , So you are as human can feel there is one god even without knowledgment , cuz his Senses drive him to believe there is one true god , So who we should believe on ? when mighty God sent his all prophet with common law same faith and belief , Do you think that he will exit him self as 3 form according Christian vision ? or divide him self ? or even sent him self or his son to punish him self or his son for Human sins ? is that sound fair ?
@ThePurityMan my friend, man cannot save himself alone. man is tainted with sin, no man can follow the law. man is corrupted because of sin. man is a slave of sin. now to solve this difficult problem of salvation, God sent part of his being to become a man. do you think giving alms to the poor or going to medina will save you? if that is true, rich people has a better chance. but that is not the way of God. in God is fair, only believe.
@ThePurityMan God is fair, in salvation you do not need a single halala, you do not need a cellphone or a taxi. only believe. you do not need to go to the mountain or mecca or medina to worship God. just believe his finished work. and this is fair because even you are a king or slave, you can do it. you do not need a single halala to do it. ( believe). while going to mecca or medina is very expensive, poor people has no chance, is that the way of your God? think.
@ThePurityMan only believe in Gods finish work and that is enough. but your teaching is you want to follow the law? who is hindering you to follow the law? there is none. so follow the law. but i want to remind you no one can follow the law. so your way of salvation is very dangerous. do you not know the law is just our tutor? the law can not make a man perfect. but the law make a crime more sophisticated the law was added because of transgression .
@ThePurityMan the law is always one step behind from the transgression. the law having the shadow of the good things to come but not the very image of the good thing to come. the law is has no effect for a righteous person. again the law is just our tutor to bring us to righteousness, but once the righteousness of God is revealed (Jesus) we are no longer under a tutor but is of faith. you want to follow the law? begin now,
@ThePurityMan Jesus fulfill the law that no one ever did so he has the right to take it away. Jesus make the law no effect to him so that he may establish the second, the law of faith. he make the first obsolete so that he may establish the second, the law of faith and liberality. moses, david, solomon and the prophets cannot abolish the law because they sinned. now, do you think you can follow the law? if yes,,,then do it now.
Jesus fulfill the Purpose which the god sent him for !
ONLY FOR specific PEople ( Sheep people from Israel , That what he said ( ONLY ) and you will twist word in which side you believe your bad .
Did Jesus fight in the way of god against enemies ??
Mohammed did that like Moses before him , He fight all disbelievers , to bring them back to the common law between prophets , Now Islam is more famous even when devils against it and criminals ....
@ThePurityMan Jesus said, peace i give you, not the peace that this world offers you. battle or wars or fighting cannot bring true peace. if you look back at history this world has a rich history of wars but until now the world has no peace. are you telling us the way of peace is going to war? the bible is telling us, the way of peace they do not know.
@jardis09 There is no prophet claimed that , God sent him and his message for all mankind , Except Mohammed (pbuh) , He is da only prophet who said that , and he did it .
So if your belief about Christianty is true ? Could you please give me from anywhere , that Jesus said the god sent him and his message for all mankind and every one around world ??
Do you know , Who built false Christianty and make it appear to world ? Apostle Paul ? Which he never ever live in Jesus time ..........continue
@ThePurityMan Jesus said to his disciples, go and preach the gospel into all corners of the earth,,, and lo, i will be with you until the end of the world. apostle paul was a pharissee or may be a under a tutelage of a pharisee during Jesus time.
@jardis09 Or even close to Disciples of Christ ? He was disbelievers before he become Christian , then he told you that he faced Jesus ? And simply u believed him cuz your fathers say so ? without any proofs ?
In fact , There is no Judaism or even Christiatny religion -- The religion is one Islam which it's means person who surrendered to God laws !!! Most of yall take islam as different word and religion , Islam it's Just Arabic word means Peace , pure , surrendered to god law .... continue
@ThePurityMan yes, paul encounter Jesus while on his way to Damascus and he was blinded for three days and that is the start of his conversion. also paul claimed he reach the third heaven, whether in the body or in the spirit he does not know, and hears the voice of God in which human being is not permitted to hear or to speak, may be paul actually die or unconscious when the people stone him .
Religion of Moses not Judaism , his religion back to father of all prophets Abraham (pbuh) .
Also same thing with Jesus his religion back to father Abraham (pbuh) .
our roots back to faith of Abraham , So Jesus never claimed he is Christian or he never called his Disciples , Christians , Even Moses , Islam is the true religion of all times , It's Just restored and completed by Illiterate man prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him ) . and that is enough miracle to us .
Pleeas do more research and just ur pushy ,arrogant comments based on ur book by one man.God didnt create religion but that word appears in ur book .Strange that "god " himself so called stated that in ur book.U become a member of that school.As believers we become a member of that belief.I n those days of abraham and moses ,only a portion of people believed in God .Rather than waste ur time on who is better ,perhaps u should gear ur energy towards positive things
@Lancerlot100 you are correct, that is what i am saying to puritan, why advocate the teaching of moses now?" there is only one God". moses advocated this teaching because people during that time worship many gods. david has a different teaching, "the fool has said in his heart, there is no God". today after so many revelation about God, paul has another teaching, "they are without excuse". and james said, "even the devil believe in one God, and trembles"
@ThePurityMan my friend, abraham and moses is too long time ago. so many revelation about God has been revealed. so much water has passed under the bridge, please study the revelation of God. Jesus said i will make everything new. this world is reserved for destruction in fire at the end of time. this world is beyond repair or restoration, a total destruction is a must to established a new one. what are you telling restored and completed?
God gave Moses and Jesus Special Teaching for Jews , but that teachings is :
worship one god no others , give charity , pray .........etc ))
We all sharing that Muslims , Jewish , Christians ---
Jewish religion as name religion. exit by Human hands not by prophets , Same thing with Christians ...
But Islam is the same religion for all prophets same faith and belief and practice , Before You judge Islam as Arabic name only , then study what that Arabic word means in your religion.
@ThePurityMan moses as i have said was tooooo long time ago. and his teaching about worship one God was intended to, and only to those who worship other god like graven image sun or stone. it is not intended for those who find the true God.
Never , So when we actuality open the holy Bible : and read it , We will find some differences and contradictions by Human hands effect ( False pin ) , So How we can sure about that ?
First let's back to those writers , who they are ? where they were ? Are they Disciples of Christ ? or people after him with many years ? we don't have any main source that we can Depend on ? oldest version i've heard is King James version , So we are following somthing could be wrong .......
When we read Bible Jesus (pbuh) said : The eternal life is to know you the father and Jesus whom have he sent .
So there is 2 different , God and the one who sent him , Now according to that we don't have any rights to switch meanings to what we have to believe on just cuz our fathers said that .
Most of Christians said oldteastment never changed ? So what about Jermigh 8-8 ?
Also other view of some contradictions : .........continue
@shahin3541 Mark 9:2 (( After six days Jesus took Peter, James and John with him and led them up a high mountain, where they were all alone. There he was transfigured before them.
Luke 9:28 (( About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray. ))
So which one 6 or 8 ? there is something wired in the bible ....... what i should believe on ?
Ur concern over 6 or 8 days written in t bible .These are minor errors but the fact of the story is jesus did take peter,james and john with him.That is a fact.There are plenty of errors in ur book .Question that .At the end of all this it is not by our good deeds alone that we go to heaven but 2 believe that GOD IS LOVE and LOVE IS GODshould be written in our hearts .By tht we allow his spirit to be with us and guide us to do what is compassionately right by him.
@Lancerlot100 .These are minor errors ( You said ) .
How about if there is more errors ? now you admitted there is errors , That's why we are Muslims follow book that changed or inculding errors , Me as Muslim honslty deep in my heart i believe in the true scriptures that revealed to every prophet Moses Jesus .etc)
i already believed in that , So holy Quran here to fix that errors and confirming what's done in true side ... and clear differences , and guide you in the true common law bttwen us.
1. Notice that Luke says "about" - an approx. 2. There are several ways of accounting for the difference in the number of days. The most probable one is that Luke uses the Jewish method of counting in which case he would count the remaining part of the day on which Jesus spoke (see vs. 27) as one day, as well as the early part of the day before they went up into the mountain. These two days, plus the intervening six of Matthew and Mark's record, account for the eight days.
@Lancerlot100 If you are Christian , then i'm sorry for you .
Because the god created human with natural Instinct .
That's natural thing drive him what ever his believe even if his believe is wrong .
That natural instinct drive the human to believe there is One true god , and that god sent messengers , So any person around world Except Atheists , Can imagine there is one true god , It's not fair plane or fair way for the god to divine him self in three forms .........
the god is 100% different then his creations , God created animals , mountians , earth , Sky ....etc ) Also Angels so Why he need to take sons after all of that creations ? why he need to take son after every thing when he was alone over and over .
Dear Christian , Dear Jewish .... this is part from holy Quran , and the angel Gabril the messenger to mohammed (pbuh) heart by god Order and Permission .......
When you open your heart and mind , and just read holy Quran with full open view and see , why bible changed so many times , and you will find that book Holy Quran confirmed bible , and clear it's wrong things .
so it's book completed the whole books before it , you will find the oldtestment and new teastment in it's true vision , So We are Muslims Surrendered our souls and mind to mighty god , and believe in everything that revealed from his side and we do good deeds ........etc .
I invite Christians and jewish , to this pure light , Just read it , try to understand , Is there any human by him self and Illiterate can make this great rules of religion with alot of knowldegment about bible and other books before it?
Can any boy do that thing in 23 years after 40 years old ?
That's must be from the god , let's see what that prophet ask you for ?
@shahin3541 He said : you have to believe in the creator of everything only and eternal one , So that sound looks great and acceptable , also he said : There is prophet , and he is Messaih , and the Christ , the one who did miracles by god Permission , even his birth is miracle , he taught us when we know him before and he lived among us as Arabians and taught us to believe in names that he didn't know it before : Abraham , lot , Noah , Moses and Jesus .........etc )) as true messenger of god ..
that sound looks also fine , And he taught us to worship ? who him self ? No , to worship and pray for the creator , Also that sound looks great , and give charity to poor people in the way of god , that's makes me enough sure about this man , he also said wish to your brother as you wished to your self , respect and love your Neighbor , .........etc )) He order you in war stage to defend your self from Aggressors and not become hostile .........etc ))
@shahin3541 That's man is prophet (muhammed ) peace be upon him , the creator revealed in his heart holy spirit with honest words to teach people (( Good deeds )) and void bad things , So that's couldn't be from devil or evil side , It's true and pure thing , I invite the whole brothers from every where , to think one more about this truth , and start Question him self as he can , and seek for our Purpose from this life and why we die at the end ....etc))
@shahin3541 but once the righteousness (of God) is revealed (Jesus) we are no longer under a tutor but is of faith. the law cant in anyway make a man clean, but by it you will know your sins. the law was added because of transgression. no one can follow the law except Jesus, so he has the right to abolish it to establish the new, on what law? the law of faith. ill repeat by observing the law no flesh will be saved. meaning no one can fulfill the law. why go back to it?
shahin 3541 you are correct Jesus never claimed in his own word that he was God, and i study this very carefully, and i have the answer. Jesus did not say it because it is proper for him not to say it. for us (humans) any word can do, but for God to be God, the choice of word is proper and no deceit. Jesus, knowing he came from God, cant say that because he claimed his Father (who is God) is greater than him. if Jesus will say that, he will blaspheme his Father.
@jardis09 All the way in the Bible Jesus(p.b.u,h) says that whatever he does it is by the will of his Father (God) and by the power given to him by Him.One of the basic concepts of God is self-sufficiency.God doesn't need to have anything from anyone to do anything.Rationally,there should not be any contradiction in the definition of God revealed in all the Divine Books and preached by all the prophets since the time of Adam.Jesus(p.b.u.h) was son of God in terms of obedience and not divinity.
@shahin3541 that is correct God does not need anyone, but God can do whatever he wants, if He wants a virgin will conceived and bear a son, if He want to leave us a seed He can do it. Abraham was the son of God in terms of faith or obedience but Jesus was the only begotten son of God in terms of divinity. Jesus did not come from dust but direct from God so Jesus has the divine nature. Jesus was with God in the beginning so he has the nature of God.
If this is true then why the begotten term has been removed from the New International Version of the Bible.In the Quran this proposition is outright rejected. Now you might say the Quran speaks against the Bible.No,it doesn't ! The burning proof is that Mary(p.b.u.h) has been mentioned as the most honoured lady ever existed on the earth and her name is mentioned 32 times in the Quran. Jesus(p.b.u.h) is mentioned 25 times in the Quran but as a prophet.
@shahin3541 even if one word is add, remove or altered the meaning can be verify in other writtings. if begotten is remove, it is the same as "i came from God", or the same as " thiis is my beloved son in whom i am well please, hear him". or the same as,The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. so it can be verified if you want to. it is not a problem for me.
@shahin3541 i know base on you answer you know the bible better than me, and i congratulate you for that. but my concern is this, how could you possibly introduce the one God whom you do not know? i am concern because the pharisees who do not know God invoke this verse "there is only one God" so they slain Jesus who tells the truth he came from God. they mistakenly apply this verse which is suppose to be preached for people worshiping other gods.
@jardis09 The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork". Psalms 10:1 The uniformity in the texture of the Universe reflects the Oneness of God in itself. In fact, since the time of the Adam there has been one mankind and one religion - that is the religion of Truth which proclaims there is none but one God worthy of worship and that there is a life after death which will be determined by our deeds in this life. Contd..
@shahin3541 day after day uttered speech, and night after night show knowledge. Psalms 19:2. meaning everyday our surrounding is reveling who God really is. or the nature is Gods witness to humanity. since every day is enumerable days from the start of time, therefore a lot of information about God has been revealed. example of this is about his Son, and then after the Son comes the Holy Spirit.
@jardis09 Contd..1 If any religion contradicts this basic common message it will certain not stand the test of truthfulness.This religion of Truth has been represented by one hundred twenty four thousand prophets and several Divine Books, the Quran being the last and final for the whole of humanity.The authenticity of the Quran as a Divine revelation is now indisputable for a rational mind with scientific confirmation of several facts in various fields of studies stated in the Quran. Contd..
@shahin3541 you know i work 8 years in saudi arabia, and in all those years i read some writtings about the koran and the bible, and i found out the bible is more reliable and accurate than koran. the koran in my view is just a bible interpretation of some verses in the bible, is just a personal explanation of some verses of the bible. any man can select a bible verse or select a bible story and then explain it.
@jardis09 I can see your desire has badly taken over your reason.Can't you see the Bible is embedded with scientific ERRORS?Can you point out one single scientific contradiction in the Quran ? I can cite as many as you want. In fact it is other way round, my friend. There are quite a few verses in the Bible which continue to be Divine,others have fallen victim of human interference. Just think,how can God say the earth is flat unless the Bible has been tinkered with. JUST BE TRUTHFUL !
@shahin3541 i am not a scientist and i am not a bible schoolar, i am just a simple working man. i cant find the whole errors, i can only find errors on the verses the way it is presented to me. the bible is telling us, not a single dot will by any means be removed until everything is accomplish. i believe that,, because God has so many ways to do that.. who is the adviser of God so as to instruct him? so i cannot find error in the book, only the interpretation has.
@jardis09 Anyway, my friend, I am packing up my discussion with you. Let me tell you I had no intention proving you wrong. All I wanted was to arrive at a common platform which could be justified universally. Please excuse me if you think I had hurt your feelings. Regards
@jardis09 "any man can select a bible verse or select a bible story and then explain it."
God has thrown open challenge in the Quran to whosoever has doubt over its Divinity,they can just produce a like chapter and the Quran will be proved wrong. The smallest chapter of Quran contain hardly 10 words and until now nobody could meet the challenge.You know Muhammad(p.b.u.h) was illiterate and that was a time when the culture of Arab was very rich in literature and poetry. But nobody could do it.
@shahin3541 you have said open challenge, now i cannot do that because no verse was presented. may be on the way of angles revelation, you know when mary ask the angel, how can this be? the angel make a collaborative facts and infered, your cousin elizabeth who is in old age,,, so the angel give a proof that he is indeed the messenger of God. and that is good. to erase/settle any doudt there must be tangible proof. or point of reference..
@jardis09 Contd..2 And that is why the Quran is not just about Faith, rather it’s about a proven Faith.The Quran confirms the Divine status of the Bible except for the falsehood it is subjected to owing to vested interests.Now if there is only one religion why the mankind is divided into various segmental loyalties, each claiming to be the right one.In fact,it is the instinctive bigotries that makes us divisive and sectarian. In many cases the traditional Muslims are also no exception to this.
@shahin3541 in the garden of even, the devil deceived eve and then sin entered into man, so all man died for all have sinned. this problem of sin entered the very heart of man thereby polluted and corrupted our mind in every way. there is no way can a man escape this worldwide corruption. it is attached to the very vein of our being. sin is a disease that is pestering us. no amount of law can make us clean. no amount of ceremony can sanctify us, you know that,,,
@jardis09 Contd..3 There are many a Muslim who apparently agree to the Oneness of God but their action doesn’t reflect their words. We all human beings, like the animals, are driven by our basic inborn instincts to behave the way we are but there is a super natural instinct (conscience) added up, in most cases, with religion to guide our behavior with reason. This is how mankind is differentiated with all other living beings and is accountable for the deeds to God. Contd..
@shahin3541 no amount of religion can rectify us, search the history, look around you and look are yourself, how many times history repeat itself? why ? because we cannot do it. the corruption that live inside our heart is so strong that we cannot fight it. kingdom fight against kingdom, brother against brother, neighbor against neighbor, religion against religion. man kill each other because of earthly things. unless God will interfere man has no escape to perdition.
"THAT NO BEARER OF BURDENS WILL BEAR THE BURDEN OF ANOTHER." al Quran 53:38 " AND THAT THERE IS NOT FOR MAN EXCEPT THAT {GOOD} FOR WHICH HE STRIVES." al Quran 53:39 " AND THAT HIS EFFORT IS GOING TO BE SEEN." al Quran 53:40
" THEN HE WILL BE RECOMPENSED FOR IT WITH THE FULLEST RECOMPENSE." al Quran 53:41
" AND THAT TO YOUR LORD IS THE FINALITY." al Quran 53:42
There are people who still lead a pious life despite all the adversities in the world.
@jardis09 Contd..4 When there is a clash between desire and reason the result is determined by the one which is dominant – instinct or the super natural instinct. If reason is dominant we are more like an angel and if desire is dominant we are more like an animal. The more we stay in harmony with our conscience the more we are elevated to the spiritual height . The prophets are the chosen human beings whose level of spirituality puts them into divine vibration.
@shahin3541 but God because of love sent his Son to do it (the law). Jesus fulfill the law so that he can abolish it. what the law could not do, Jesus do it for us. the law could not sanctify a man. Jesus perform the righteous requirements of the law (God righteousness) so that in him the law has no effect. Jesus make the old obsolete so that he may establish the second. the law of faith, that whosoever believe in him,,, but if you believe not,, that is the big problem.
@jardis09“ “ FOR THOSE WHO ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD.” ROMANS 8:14
I hope now you can understand what the Bible means when somebody is referred to as son of God.It’s not that Jesus(p.b.u.h) is only referred to as the son of God.
“And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh,Thus saith the LORD,Israil is my son,even my firstborn.” Exodus 4:22
“ That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”Gen. 6:2
@shahin3541 Jesus said he came from God and that is enough. with or without the word begotten it is the same because it is unmistakenly conffirm by the verse, this is my beloved son in whom i am well pleas,hear him. in issac shall your seed shall be reckon,, where is the promise (seed) in the time of pharaoh? is it not on the israel? the sons of God in genesis 6:2 has many meaning until now. the children of God in romans 8:14 are people who are born again with the spirit of God.
@jardis09 You can find many more verses in the Bible bearing the word son/s. It is because whoever is led by the spirit of God is the son of God, metaphorically and not literally.
As long as Jesus(p.b.u.h) being the begotten son of God is concerned, it is like blaspheming God to the highest degree as the phrase “beget” refers to lower animal function of sex. That is is the reason the word “begotten” is removed from the new International version of the Bible.
@shahin3541 yes, but with the word beloved, it is different, howmuch more the phrase ,hear him, as written by the those men who have personal account. they pesonally hear it and write it. the word beget is not a problem with me because, the one true God want it. i believe nothing is impossible with God, so why not if He wants to? the one God we are talking about decided to send part of his being (his right hand, his finger, his word i do not know) to solve this problem of sin.
@jardis09 We consider Jesus(p.b.u.h) as one of our prophets and the extraordinary power he had is no surprise to us,because we know God endowed him with such abilities and in several verses Jesus(p.b.u.h) confirms this.Considering him the literal son of God opens the room of kinship which cannot be attributed to God.We believe God has no partners and associating any partner with God is an inexcusable sin.Anyway the choice is yours! But still I suggest you to rebrush your ideas as a truth-seeker.
@shahin3541 God is truth, man seek truth but truth is very illusive and very expensive, same as pontous pilate, when he asked,, what is truth? 2000 years ago until now men seek the truth. sometime, what we know or believe to be true is a lie. moses, when he was young believed he was the son of pharaohs daughter is a lie. sometimes what we believe in ourselves is a lie. yes, you are correct we should seek the truth because i believe those who do it is of God.
for thus people who are forcing that jesus is god try to be open minded and realize how could man or a person himself be a god?.. its so funny hahahaha lol.,..jesus is only a messenger of god...
@0814kimcute why limit your God if he wants to do something? why compare God to man? why you laugh on what God has done? if to man, it is not possible, to God nothing is impossible. if God said, "unless the Lord of the Sabbath will leave us a seed,,," or " a virgin shall conceived and bear a son" or " destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up", he can do it. why? is your God limited?
@jardis09 You are right. In fact God has the ability to transcend all limits. He is capable of doing anything,even he is capable of causing disorder and chaos to the utmost level. But he doesn't do this unless there is some specific purpose. whatever God does it makes a sense and appeals to a rational mind. It doesn't make sense to God merging himself into creational form and putting His identity into confusion. It doesn't make sense to a rational mind. He stays quite clear in His entity.
MUSLIMS QUOTE 5:32, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A RARE "MODERATE" TEXT: "...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people..."; BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TEXT CLOSELY YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT IS NOT VERY MODERATE, IT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT KILL "UNLESS IT IS FOR MURDER OR SOMEONE WHO SPREADS MISCHIEF IN THE LAND". BUT YOU CAN KILL INFIDELS WHO ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE "PERVERTS, CURSED BY GOD, ETC", 5:51, 9:39, 3:28
@shahin3541 remember your thoughts is not his thoughts and your ways is not his ways, why limit Him and say He cant do it? He did it. God send part of his being to become a man. why question God if He say, this is my beloved son in whom i am well pleased, hear him. are you one of the pharisee who want to kill Jesus because he claimed, destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up.
@0814kimcute why limit your God if he wants to do something? why compare God to man? why you laugh on what God has done? if to man, it is not possible, to God nothing is impossible. if God said, "unless the Lord of the Sabbath will leave us a seed,,," or " a virgin shall conceived and bear a son" or " destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up", he can do it. why? is your God limited?
@0814kimcute why limit what God can do for us? if a soldier can bite the bullet in defense of his country and countrymen, why cannot God because of love give part of his being to become a man? you know, your thoughts is not the thought of God and your ways is not the way of God. if you know nothing is impossible with God, why say He cannot do that? who is the adviser of God so as to instruct Him?
@jardis09 why limit what God can do for us? ( You said ) .
You don't have rights to ask random Questions , to make your self in God place .
I mean : The god created us and he is the best one to judge us in the fair way ...
The god never punish any person untill he sent him messenger , The god knows , What is in your heart and what you think , You heard about Mohammed (pbuh) ? u know his message ? did you try in any where to seek in Islam and see what they are talking about ( by honest ) ?
@ThePurityMan why not ask question if you are in doubt? the bible is telling us to reason together, or test the spirit if they are of God. why not ask question to know the truth? God gave us mind to reason, why not use it? actually everyday we judge ourselves starting from the dress we should wear, the food to eat, the high way we go, the job we apply, the president we vote, etc,etc,. if we do not judge we are like robot.
Have you ever know who is that prophet Mohammed (pbuh) ?
My friend before you judge him in the wrong way , Open your heart and mind , and don't follow Hypocrites , be away from them and hater sources , by your soul and by your mind , let;s your mind judge you and thinks more and more , Go read Islam and holy Quran and try to study it as you can ..... then you have choice and Depending on that god will judge you ........
@ThePurityMan i do not study the quran but when i was in saudi arabia i study some phamplet and i learn a lot. i study only the writtings as presented to me. and i do not make judgement as a whole, i make judgement only on the verses presented to me. but before i make my comments, i study it, meditate it, and ask the guidance of God to help me. and sometimes do some research work. i analyze the verse, the word and the message.
@jardis09 God can give any prophet , miracles , every thing planned from the god , but the system is one , that what god taught us , You have to worship him alone , he is eternal and only even Before he exit Jesus or any other prophet or even before he create all creations , He was alone and master of everything , So he don't need to figure him out in 3 forms or 1 but out of 3 or what ever contradictions , even Christians him self can't believe in that back to their sens and mind..........
@ThePurityMan you are correct God can make any man to perform miracles and wonders if God wants to. but my question is why God give it all to Jesus. walk on water, calm down the storm, make water into wine, make the blind see, raise the dead, etc.etc. why God give all to Jesus while other do not have?,
@jardis09 Christians force them self and hearts and minds to believe , what they heard and study from their fathers , even if their fathers are in sins , They follow not logical mind , they say 1+1+1=3 but he is one not three , Mathematically that wrong , huge mistake . They just say if you have belief just believe in that and stop questions because questions from devil .........Man i tried to put my self in Christinty visions , But i swear i'm Muslim if god fair and Justice ...........
@ThePurityMan you know God consider husband and wife to be one flesh, for God said the two shall become one flesh. so God counted the two flesh as one. and then again we have heard, i and the father is one. so what is new? if God is speaking who will rebuke him? who is the adviser of God to instruct him?
that why they planned to kill Jesus , Do you think they will let you get his message ?
If they are true ? then they built their christianty in vain and from that vain , they complete their wrong mistakes and get away from the true path , that why god sent his prophet Mohammed (pbuh) to confirm what they have , and clean their mistakes and bring them back to believe in one true message , There is only true one god . that's why they hate him ......
@ThePurityMan my friend, they (the pharisee) slain Jesus because they use the verse, there is only one God. this verse is only intended for those who is worshiping other god. think about it, why moses preach this message. are the people during that time worship other gods? check it. if anyone worships the true God, this verse is not applicable. why always emphasize this verse? even the devil believe in one God and trembles.
@jardis09 Devils closed their eyes , when there is good man invite them to do good deeds , they ignore him , So do you think they will even follow Jesus ? Nope .
Mohammed (pbuh) taught us to believe in Jesus , that's different between us and them ,
Chrsitianty never can be true never even if i'm sane and wise person ,
Thanks god about this islam , it's bring us from darkness to the light , which we can share whole messages before , Islam completed everything that missed ! islam is the true .
@ThePurityMan there is only one truth that i know, that is Jesus is the son of God. sometimes what we believe to be true is a lie. my friend, when moses was young he believes he was the son of pharaohs daughter is a lie. sometimes we are not real, sometimes we are good sometimes we are bad. there is no truth in us. 500 years from now, nobody know if we really exist. my friend we live only for a moment, do not make your knowledge as the absolute.
the god sent every messenger to his people , speak their language , For Israel Jewsh the god sent Moses first and why they changed his message by so many lies , the god sent that Specified jewish another messenger Jesus (pbuh) the Christ and the god gave him miracles , at that time all those jewish who believed in Moses should follow Jesus , and those who didn't believe in moses should be ready for the judgement , and knows that was the truth .........
@ThePurityMan prophets of God are humans capable of commiting mistakes and sin. so do not rely on them, just study their message and compare and loook for errors. do not believe every teaching but test the teaching if they are from God. the berrians are good because they study the verses of the bible very carefully.
@jardis09 do not believe every teaching but test the teaching if they are from God. ( You said ) .
That's was best thing you said .
Did u believe in god that he is Jesus ?? or Jesus his son ?
When god taught us in every single prophet , That he is eternal and he is the one and only , So Do you think god will confuse people and send him self ? in human form ? or should he take sons ? when he was alone ? the whole common message between all prophets ? the god is one and only expect Christians
@ThePurityMan God is only one, or there is only one God, i believe that. but this one God make part of his being to become a man. and i do not question God why he do that. this part of his being who became a man, he call it my beloved son in whom i am well please. God did not come here to become a man, only part of his being come here to become a man. almost all the christian commit a mistake by saying God came here to become a man, no.. only part of Gods being become a man
John 5-30 (( If Jesus is god , Then why he said this (( By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. ))
This enough word to notice the whole trinity is forbidden and not even exit from the god or Jesus him self , that was Fabricated put inside bible to waste your mind . in that John 5-30 it's proves God there in sky and he sent Jesus as rest of prophets , You don't have any rights ? to divine god...
@ThePurityMan Jesus is God because he came from God. or his origin is God, or his nature is God. if you are the son of bamardof you are bamardof, if you are the son of balgonahim you are a balgonahim. so Jesus was the beloved son of God, so he is God in my opinion. do not persuade me to use the verse, there is only one God because this verse is too long time ago, a lot of revelation has come and that verse is intended only for those who is worshiping other gods.
@jardis09 So once again :Jesus said : By myself I can do nothing (( Which he never can be god or son of god , because he do things not by him self but by God Permission . God can let any prophet do any miracle even he can let Mohammed (pbuh) rise body from death to live , If the god wants . It's by god Permission .
Again back to that verse : I judge only as I hear (( that's mean he is messenger he should do what he hear from his god ) or I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.(< enough
@ThePurityMan you are correct, God can let anyone to rise from the dead if God wants to. but my question is why God permit Jesus to rise from the dead? why God did not permit others to rise? i think that is the starting point to think. God permit Jesus to rise from the dead while others not? there must be a reason why.
After JEsus and when they rejected him and tried to crossify him , the god rescued him and rise him to his own , that's why Jesus cried and call god to help him , God never punish his messenger for other human sins ( this is not logical fair way that we used to know about god )
And after Jesus , the god sent his last prophet not for Specific people , for every one the whole mankind , this is mercy from god , if you really know it , now that light spread around the world ......
@ThePurityMan Jesus did not cried for help in the cross, he did not ask anyone to help him. Jesus ask God, why you have forsaken me? it is just a question. Jesus did not say, my God please help me. but why Jesus was forsaken by God? because in Jesus flesh was the sins of humanity (only those who believe). why did he call God and not Father? why not call his Father? because in that time, Jesus was counted as trangressor.
esus did not cried for help in the cross ( You Said ) ?
what he did screaming ?? what ever ? If that is true then jesus should offer him self to that situation , Didn't he is god according Christians ? or he is his son ? then he should offer him self to that situation not to ask his god for help ? that's proves there is somthing wired and wrong between bibles words , In islam it's easy just ask the god in your true wells then the god will forgive you , no need to hurt any body .
@jardis09 now every one heard about Mohammed (pbuh) and alot of people from different countries believed in him some of them Scientists , everything will back to the god , the one who exit us when we were nothing of time , we die and that is enough sin to believe he will bring us back again , and judge us in the fair way .
Muslims believed in everything revealed from the god , that's the main logic can make us more trust .
We don't make any Discrimination between all prophet .
@ThePurityMan how do you know the revelation to you (by someone) is from God? anybody can claim he was from God, but how can you distinguish if they are from God or not? what is your gage or criteria? you know today a lot of people are claiming their teaching is from God. how do you know it is from God? a lot of people are claiming they are right about this and that. the bible is teaching us, donot believe every spirit, but test the spirit if they are of God. are you testing every teaching?
I study comparative open minded religion. Meaning I dont have a closed slanted, intolerable view of religion. Most religious fanatics get lost in their fanatism! I'm about truth, & the truth is we're all reflections of god but we are also reflections of the dark side which is egotism. We need to become intuned with love & peace. That's what I call being like god,&is the only truth we need to know despite our differences we'rethe same. Lets stop this my religion vs yours crap!
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@MHS032 "And homo's have nothing to do with themselves. Their are those born gay. RIGHT? Nobody asked to be born, let alone born gay. I dodnt ask, neither did you".
God said Genesis 1:26. “LET US CREATED MAN IN OUR OWN IMAGE”. Is that mean to you God is gay? The answer is clearly NO! We are created in God’s image, that doesn’t mean we born gay. God created Eve to be with Adam, not the same sex. Whoever born and think he is gay is clearly a CURSE. They needed Jesus to set them free!
lzlus 3 days ago
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@MHS032 "People just praise God in a different way and have their own views and beliefs about God. In reality we are praising the SAME THING."
Your WRONG!
If Jesus didn’t come on earth, all religions could be right. But He came to shown us the true way to the Father is only through Him. THE LIFE, THE WAY AND THE TRUTH.
Islam is false.There was no prophet of God prophecy abt Muhammad's coming. No muslim know why they called Muhammad a prophet when there are no qualities of a prophet in him.
lzlus 3 days ago
ISLAM IS WRONG! ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST! MUHAMMAD PLAGIARIZED MOST OF THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE & CALLED IT THE QURAN! HE TOOK OUT PARTS OF THE BIBLE & ADDED HORRIBLE STUFF & LIES LIKE KILL THE INFIDELS, 72 VIRGINS & OTHER TRASH! MUHAMMAD CALLED JESUS CHRIST A GREAT PROPHET & VIRGIN BIRTH! CHRIST WHO CAME LONG BEFORE MUHAMMAD SAID THE BIBLE IS SEALED & CLOSED & ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE PROPHETS! (MUHAMMAD IS FALSE & EVIL!) RUN FROM ISLAM TO THE ONLY TRUTH JESUS CHRIST FOR ETERNAL LIFE VISIT cbn.com /podcast
tigersforchrist 3 weeks ago
Jesus is Prophet
cr7productions100 3 weeks ago
ISLAM IS THE TRUE RELIGION AND THE RELIGION OF PEACE. THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH. PROPHET MUHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH. PEACE BE UPON HIM. I BELIEVE IN JESUS THROUGH QUR'AN NOT BIBLE. JESUS IS ONE OF THE PROPHET NOT A GOD. MARY GIVE BIRTH TO JESUS . AND WHO CREATE JESUS AND MARY . WHO . ALLAH CREATE THEM. MORON.
MangoMadness1966 1 month ago 2
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i prefer another argument
"logic vs religion"
alexchris32 1 month ago
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tigersforchrist 1 month ago
In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy spirit Amen
Frando87 2 months ago 2
TRY O READ MATTHEW 21:11--------> The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.”
nhawarah 2 months ago
@nhawarah AAHHHHH DUHHHHHH Like people yelling out OBAMA!!! Instead of MR. President! DUH! Got it! Get your head out from where the sun don't shine and repent and accept The GREATEST Prophet, GREATEST GOD in the flesh etc.......Repent Jesus is still waiting for your ignorant mind to wake UP!
tigersforchrist 1 month ago
@tigersforchrist THEN TRY TO READ YOUR OWN BIBLE SO THAT YOU WILL NOT BE AN IGNORANT PAGAN CHRISTIAN. JOHN 20:17Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE JESUS HAS A GOD.. IF YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEN ASK YOUR STATUE (JESUS) IF HE CAN MOVE AND ANSWER THEREFORE HE IS A GOD BUT IF HE CAN'T THEN YOU ARE A PAGAN.
nhawarah 1 month ago
@tigersforchrist YOU CAN'T EVEN GIVE THE VERSES OF THE BIRTHDAY OF JESUS FROM THE BIBLE BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IS A MAN-MADE RELIGION.. TRY TO FIND THE WORD "CHRISTMAS AND DECEMBER 25" ON THE BIBLE IF YOU CAN NOT FIND THEN ASK JESUS IF HE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION..
nhawarah 1 month ago
PAGAN CHRISTIANS WORSHIPING TO A STATUE THAT CAN NOT MOVE.. THE POPE IS THE LEADER OF PAGANISM.. JESUS IS A MAN NOT A GOD EVEN THE DECEMBER 25 (CHRISTMAS) CAN NOT BE READ ON THE BIBLE. EVEN JESUS DID NOT SAY THAT HE IS A GOD... ONLY APOSTLES SAID THAT JESUS IS A GOD.... A MISGUIDED PAGAN RELIGION WORSHIPING TO A STATUE THAT CAN NOT MOVE EVEN A LIZARD WILL WALK ON JESUS BODY HE CAN NOT REMOVE IT BECAUSE HE IS JUST A STATUE.. WHAT A BASTARD, MORON-PAGAN CHRISTIANS....
nhawarah 2 months ago
@nhawarah Lol. Paedo lover.
lifeinaletterbox 2 months ago
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@lifeinaletterbox . READ: “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3). So,it IS clearly indicate that Jesus himself cannot be a God. KINDLY GIVE ME A VERSES ABOUT DECEMBER 25 AS A BRTHDAY OF JESUS..
nhawarah 2 months ago
Jesus is the one true God,not mohammad or allah
TrueBlueCanuck 2 months ago 2
@TrueBlueCanuck u said jesus is one true god.. Jesus is a prophet.. Maryam [mary] give birth to jesus [ isa a.s] peace be upon him.You said that Jesus is god because he was born without a father, that means ADAM is greater god la. -.- THINK LA. WHO CREATE ADAM AND JESUS AND MARY . WHO.. ALLAH .. ALLAH IS THE GREATEST GOD. GO READ YR BIBLE AND QURAN AND COMPARE IT. MORON
MangoMadness1966 1 month ago
If you think God is almighty then why will you limit him to come as a form as a man. He can do what ever he wants. The only pardon is from God, thats why he was to come down from his thrown. There is no greater love, when one lay his life for other.
mylivingwater 2 months ago
Jesus is God in the Flesh, 100%human and 100%God. He came to shed his blood to cover our sins with the perfect blood in which God can accept.
Jesus is God,
mylivingwater 2 months ago
just like in matthew 26:39 "and he (jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face and prayed, saying, 'O my father, if it possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as i will, but thou wilt."
and for this guy who insult Muhammad the most, i admire how much you hold on your religion, but i feel sad for you because i think i know your religion better than you. .i've read a lot in bible and non in there teaches to insult people and judge w/out even knowing them,
julaydeehaiz 2 months ago
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well for islam every prophet i mean all the prophet are special. .and jesus is the prophet before muhammad. .jesus said in john 14:15-16 "if you love me, keep my commandments and i will pray the father and he shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you forever" that comforter cant be the holy spirit because the holy spirit was already in his time. .and besides if it is really true that he said he is a God. .why does he need to pray?
julaydeehaiz 2 months ago
well for islam every prophet i mean all the prophet are special. .and jesus is the prophet before muhammad. .jesus said in john 14:15-16 "if you love me, keep my commandments and i will pray the father and he shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you forever" that comforter cant be the holy spirit because the holy spirit was already in his time. .and besides if it is really true that he said he is a God. .why does he need to pray?
julaydeehaiz 2 months ago
Muhammad said Christ was great Christ said Muhammad and all other impersonators are demonic! CASE CLOSED! Repent from Islam before you end up in hell with Muhammad the child molesting murderer!!!
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Let why do they have the name Jesus the image to the beast in their Holy book.
Why do they not have Yahshua the Messiah name . Just like Christians have that abomination of desolation of daniel. When did this Idol get put in the Koran? When was the Koran altered to allow the image of Roman in their Holy book?
odephraimchai 3 months ago
I just believe Jesus is the son of God simply by my faith and what the word of God says, when Jesus said "I'm the son of God" just after everything I've seen in the name of Jesus I can't deny this awsome love, and grace.idk I'm not here to argue just to state something of my life prolly no one will ever care about, lol.
Macdaddy3369 4 months ago
Jesus belongs to us, and he is the most angry with those who throw shameful names like "son Of GOD!" GOD says in the quran, if he willed he could have a son, BUT IT DOESNT BEFIT OR MAKE SENSE FOR GOD TO HAVE A SON, as a son will eventually become like the Father, and no one is comparable to GOD. so anything GOD created, doesnt go past the limit of being his creatures. GOD is nothing like his creation, above all, space and time. in control of all things,powerful, mighty, the most merciful.
ViciousBeats16 4 months ago 2
Or leave it either way. God bless you all, and no matter your believes, God loves you, and will always seek after u, no matter where you've been, or what you've done, one true love saves us all.
Macdaddy3369 4 months ago
These arguments y'all are having are not even from the lord, your tossed about my each wave right and left...I'm a believer that Jesus was the son of God. Does that mean I need to bash Islam, did Jesus Christ not say love your neighbor as yourself and love your God with all your heart, that's the greatest commands he gave. I come here to stand and say Jesus has done so much to change me and save me and he's shown me so many miracles, that all I wanna do is show people this amazing love, take it
Macdaddy3369 4 months ago
IraqPartyGirl But did your "god" die for you? Nope.
Virginiaboy131 5 months ago
@Virginiaboy131 What? That doesn't make any sense. Jesus was not God. God does not pray to himself. He does not come in three forms. There is one God. And he can't die. I love Jesus though. :)
Sanananaz 4 months ago
Well guess what thousands of Christians are killed by muslims each day! Islam is a religion of murder and hate! Did your god come down and die for you?! Nope, i don't think so. My God did. he rose 3 days later.
Virginiaboy131 5 months ago
@Virginiaboy131 WOW.. JUST SAY WITHOUT INVESTIGATING THE TRUTH. STUPID,
MangoMadness1966 1 month ago
Christians and Jew's do not count as infidel (Kafr) because they are also people of the book who follow God. Also Muslims Christians and Jews (who follow the torah) should not fight because we are making satan happy. Freemasons are making us fight so they can buy time to prepare for the antichrist. Plese spread this message.
Lxcis 5 months ago
women suffer pain of labour because of sin Jesus crucified but women still suffer
fairbank120 6 months ago
I am Muslim and proud and want just people believe me what i will gonna say is that Muslims are not the religion of the TERRORISM bec. yea i know that OSAMA bin Laden (BL) is the reason that make you believe that its the religion of TERRORISM but G.BUSH made you hate Islam more and more (9/11) and i hate BL ALSO BEC. HE MADE THIS BUT WHY HE MADE THIS BEC. ITS A LONG STORY WHO WANTS TO KNOW IT PM ME, and if Islam not the truth won't it be that whole word fighting it :D pm me for questions
mohamedhazemohamed 6 months ago
@mohamedhazemohamed google youcef nadarkhani, he is a muslim who turned christian.. he is being murdered by the irani government for apostasy.. the quran states that if a muslim converts to another faith that he must be killed.. quran teaches murder, this is why osama bin laden is a good muslim. Quran teaches that infidels must be killed in the name of god, osama bin laden only did the work of muhammad.
st3v3nftw 4 months ago
@st3v3nftw yes u r right about APOSTASY from Islam and i know he must be killed and Quran is not teaching Murder and as that we christians live in Egypt With Muslim and Quran SAYS THAT U HAVE UR RELIGION AND WE HAVE OURS does this means that Muslim is the Religion of Murder and Bin Laden is not a good muslim wats he is doing to America is Revenge of wat G.BUSH did to him he betrayed him so wats hes doing is REVENGE OK AND HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING OF Muhammed did
mohamedhazemohamed 4 months ago
@st3v3nftw You are mental. You need to truly study Islam.
Sanananaz 4 months ago
@TheAturaya anyone that follows the muslim religion is a animal, your religion is a joke I have no time for uneducated fools like you enjoy your religion cause the only place you guys are headed is str8 to hell believe u me, not to heaven where 7 virgins are waiting for you if you strap a bomb on u blow up innocent children men and woman FOOLS !!!!
TheAturaya 6 months ago
@TheAturaya REALLY U R A JOKE AND WHO IS KILLING MEN AND WOMEN YOU FOOL LOOK AT AMERICA WHAT'S DONE TO IRAQ AND PAKISTAN AND HELPING ISRAEL BY GIVING WEAPONS TO CONQUER PALESTINE AND NOW UR SAYS THAT WE KILLED MEN AND WOMEN AND TELL HOW WE DID THAT
mohamedhazemohamed 4 months ago
@mohamedhazemohamed but israel has the rightful place for its territory.... they lost it to the muslims for centuries and they claimed in only 60-70 yrs. but iraq, iran and all the other islamic countries are constantly attacking israel claiming that its their land. so america tried to help israel to protect its land. and the things that america did to iraq and iran etc are the result of YOUR actions. dont blame it on america or any other Christian/jew countries.
googieist 2 months ago
@googieist IT IS JUST A PROPAGANDA, AMERICA HELP ISRAEL BECAUSE OF ECONOMY.. AMERICA INVADED IRAQ BECAUSE OF WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION BUT UNTIL TODAY AMERICA CAN NOT PRESENT THE SAID MASS DESTRUCTION. WHAT A PERFECT PROPAGANDA...
nhawarah 2 months ago
@nhawarah America is only a puppet to the federal reserve....check into Rothschild they are using us to set up their one world gov't. the officals are bought and threatened to do as told...they have leaders all over the world Muslim Jewish and Christian religion is irrelevant. Did you know that the pope and Muslim leaders are currently trying to create one world religion using Catholicism and Islam....of course Jewish Zionists will buy it but true Jews and Christians will not
MrShirley1977 1 month ago
shahin 3541 is your intelligence superior than the pharisees? they know, they are not stupid, they are 100% sure Jesus is claimimng to be God, no doubt about it. and Jesus was crucified on that account. now, 2000 years later your finding is, Jesus never claimed to be God? what a fake. Jesus never say he was God, but also he did not say he was not God. you know, ther are a lot of truth that was never written or spoken but remains the truth, and at your age you know that very well.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Your arguments appear to be more emotional rather than rational.No intelligence can take on what is revealed in The Quran,The Bible,TheTorah or any Divine Books. Jesus(p.b.u.h) did not say he was not god but he said :
"Hear,O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord." Mark 12:29
"And He sent unto him,"Why called thou me good ?There is none good but one, that is God: but if thou will enter in life, keep the commandments." Mathew19:16-17
How do you rate these verses over what is not said?
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 no human intelligence can is correct but Jesus will send the Spirit of truth to guide us in all truth. Hear o Israel means do not worship other gods like stone. it was issued because people worships other gods. Keep the commandment cont.,,, and the young man went away sorrowful. why? b/c he cant follow the law. by following the law no one will be saved, the law is our tutor to bring us righteousness,
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 "do not worship other gods"
It doesn't mean other gods as you mean.it is clearly said about one God.Then who do you think is he ? Jesus(p.b.u.h) or his Father?people worshipped other gods but Jesus(p.b.u.h) talked about one God and not gods. Anyway, since there is no compulsion on belief you are free to hold your belief and so do I.We believe that all the Divine Books and all the messengers since the advent of Adam and till the revelation of e Quran hold the same essence of one God.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 i understand your answer but my point is,,, that statement was issued because people during that time worship many gods. today the bible has saying about people who worship many gods or people who do not believe in God. because of so many revelations the bible is saying "they are without excuse" and in another, "you believe in one God, even the devil believe in one God, and tremble."
my point is little by little God is revealing Himself to humanity.
jardis09 6 months ago
@shahin3541 100% true bro .
Most of people think Islam new religion and different then any other religion , my advice to them : the god choice who ever he want , So How about if Mohammed (peace be upon him ) is the last and true prophet ?
When we look to Christianty to me it's doesn't makes any sense , i understand what Christiatny mean more then any christian , i seek in their logic and why they believed , they tried to believe in something against the whole message : God created humans .....
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541 God created every human with the Instinct , So you are as human can feel there is one god even without knowledgment , cuz his Senses drive him to believe there is one true god , So who we should believe on ? when mighty God sent his all prophet with common law same faith and belief , Do you think that he will exit him self as 3 form according Christian vision ? or divide him self ? or even sent him self or his son to punish him self or his son for Human sins ? is that sound fair ?
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan my friend, man cannot save himself alone. man is tainted with sin, no man can follow the law. man is corrupted because of sin. man is a slave of sin. now to solve this difficult problem of salvation, God sent part of his being to become a man. do you think giving alms to the poor or going to medina will save you? if that is true, rich people has a better chance. but that is not the way of God. in God is fair, only believe.
jardis09 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan God is fair, in salvation you do not need a single halala, you do not need a cellphone or a taxi. only believe. you do not need to go to the mountain or mecca or medina to worship God. just believe his finished work. and this is fair because even you are a king or slave, you can do it. you do not need a single halala to do it. ( believe). while going to mecca or medina is very expensive, poor people has no chance, is that the way of your God? think.
jardis09 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan only believe in Gods finish work and that is enough. but your teaching is you want to follow the law? who is hindering you to follow the law? there is none. so follow the law. but i want to remind you no one can follow the law. so your way of salvation is very dangerous. do you not know the law is just our tutor? the law can not make a man perfect. but the law make a crime more sophisticated the law was added because of transgression .
jardis09 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan the law is always one step behind from the transgression. the law having the shadow of the good things to come but not the very image of the good thing to come. the law is has no effect for a righteous person. again the law is just our tutor to bring us to righteousness, but once the righteousness of God is revealed (Jesus) we are no longer under a tutor but is of faith. you want to follow the law? begin now,
jardis09 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan Jesus fulfill the law that no one ever did so he has the right to take it away. Jesus make the law no effect to him so that he may establish the second, the law of faith. he make the first obsolete so that he may establish the second, the law of faith and liberality. moses, david, solomon and the prophets cannot abolish the law because they sinned. now, do you think you can follow the law? if yes,,,then do it now.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Jesus fulfill the law ( You Said ) .
Jesus fulfill the Purpose which the god sent him for !
ONLY FOR specific PEople ( Sheep people from Israel , That what he said ( ONLY ) and you will twist word in which side you believe your bad .
Did Jesus fight in the way of god against enemies ??
Mohammed did that like Moses before him , He fight all disbelievers , to bring them back to the common law between prophets , Now Islam is more famous even when devils against it and criminals ....
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan Jesus said, peace i give you, not the peace that this world offers you. battle or wars or fighting cannot bring true peace. if you look back at history this world has a rich history of wars but until now the world has no peace. are you telling us the way of peace is going to war? the bible is telling us, the way of peace they do not know.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 There is no prophet claimed that , God sent him and his message for all mankind , Except Mohammed (pbuh) , He is da only prophet who said that , and he did it .
So if your belief about Christianty is true ? Could you please give me from anywhere , that Jesus said the god sent him and his message for all mankind and every one around world ??
Do you know , Who built false Christianty and make it appear to world ? Apostle Paul ? Which he never ever live in Jesus time ..........continue
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan Jesus said to his disciples, go and preach the gospel into all corners of the earth,,, and lo, i will be with you until the end of the world. apostle paul was a pharissee or may be a under a tutelage of a pharisee during Jesus time.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Or even close to Disciples of Christ ? He was disbelievers before he become Christian , then he told you that he faced Jesus ? And simply u believed him cuz your fathers say so ? without any proofs ?
In fact , There is no Judaism or even Christiatny religion -- The religion is one Islam which it's means person who surrendered to God laws !!! Most of yall take islam as different word and religion , Islam it's Just Arabic word means Peace , pure , surrendered to god law .... continue
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan yes, paul encounter Jesus while on his way to Damascus and he was blinded for three days and that is the start of his conversion. also paul claimed he reach the third heaven, whether in the body or in the spirit he does not know, and hears the voice of God in which human being is not permitted to hear or to speak, may be paul actually die or unconscious when the people stone him .
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09
Religion of Moses not Judaism , his religion back to father of all prophets Abraham (pbuh) .
Also same thing with Jesus his religion back to father Abraham (pbuh) .
our roots back to faith of Abraham , So Jesus never claimed he is Christian or he never called his Disciples , Christians , Even Moses , Islam is the true religion of all times , It's Just restored and completed by Illiterate man prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him ) . and that is enough miracle to us .
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
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Lancerlot100 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan
Pleeas do more research and just ur pushy ,arrogant comments based on ur book by one man.God didnt create religion but that word appears in ur book .Strange that "god " himself so called stated that in ur book.U become a member of that school.As believers we become a member of that belief.I n those days of abraham and moses ,only a portion of people believed in God .Rather than waste ur time on who is better ,perhaps u should gear ur energy towards positive things
Lancerlot100 6 months ago
@Lancerlot100 you are correct, that is what i am saying to puritan, why advocate the teaching of moses now?" there is only one God". moses advocated this teaching because people during that time worship many gods. david has a different teaching, "the fool has said in his heart, there is no God". today after so many revelation about God, paul has another teaching, "they are without excuse". and james said, "even the devil believe in one God, and trembles"
jardis09 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan my friend, abraham and moses is too long time ago. so many revelation about God has been revealed. so much water has passed under the bridge, please study the revelation of God. Jesus said i will make everything new. this world is reserved for destruction in fire at the end of time. this world is beyond repair or restoration, a total destruction is a must to established a new one. what are you telling restored and completed?
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09
God gave Moses and Jesus Special Teaching for Jews , but that teachings is :
worship one god no others , give charity , pray .........etc ))
We all sharing that Muslims , Jewish , Christians ---
Jewish religion as name religion. exit by Human hands not by prophets , Same thing with Christians ...
But Islam is the same religion for all prophets same faith and belief and practice , Before You judge Islam as Arabic name only , then study what that Arabic word means in your religion.
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan moses as i have said was tooooo long time ago. and his teaching about worship one God was intended to, and only to those who worship other god like graven image sun or stone. it is not intended for those who find the true God.
jardis09 6 months ago
@shahin3541
Never , So when we actuality open the holy Bible : and read it , We will find some differences and contradictions by Human hands effect ( False pin ) , So How we can sure about that ?
First let's back to those writers , who they are ? where they were ? Are they Disciples of Christ ? or people after him with many years ? we don't have any main source that we can Depend on ? oldest version i've heard is King James version , So we are following somthing could be wrong .......
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541
When we read Bible Jesus (pbuh) said : The eternal life is to know you the father and Jesus whom have he sent .
So there is 2 different , God and the one who sent him , Now according to that we don't have any rights to switch meanings to what we have to believe on just cuz our fathers said that .
Most of Christians said oldteastment never changed ? So what about Jermigh 8-8 ?
Also other view of some contradictions : .........continue
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
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@shahin3541
Some one wrote in bible that he heard from Jesus or his disciples , If he was honest ....
He said that Jesus said : John 8:14 (( Jesus answered, "Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid ))
other verse John 5:31 (( "If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid. ))
So which one is the right one ? or it could be human mistakes , that doesn't makes your belief , another contradictions ..........
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541 Mark 9:2 (( After six days Jesus took Peter, James and John with him and led them up a high mountain, where they were all alone. There he was transfigured before them.
Luke 9:28 (( About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray. ))
So which one 6 or 8 ? there is something wired in the bible ....... what i should believe on ?
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan
Ur concern over 6 or 8 days written in t bible .These are minor errors but the fact of the story is jesus did take peter,james and john with him.That is a fact.There are plenty of errors in ur book .Question that .At the end of all this it is not by our good deeds alone that we go to heaven but 2 believe that GOD IS LOVE and LOVE IS GODshould be written in our hearts .By tht we allow his spirit to be with us and guide us to do what is compassionately right by him.
Lancerlot100 6 months ago
@Lancerlot100 .These are minor errors ( You said ) .
How about if there is more errors ? now you admitted there is errors , That's why we are Muslims follow book that changed or inculding errors , Me as Muslim honslty deep in my heart i believe in the true scriptures that revealed to every prophet Moses Jesus .etc)
i already believed in that , So holy Quran here to fix that errors and confirming what's done in true side ... and clear differences , and guide you in the true common law bttwen us.
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan
1. Notice that Luke says "about" - an approx. 2. There are several ways of accounting for the difference in the number of days. The most probable one is that Luke uses the Jewish method of counting in which case he would count the remaining part of the day on which Jesus spoke (see vs. 27) as one day, as well as the early part of the day before they went up into the mountain. These two days, plus the intervening six of Matthew and Mark's record, account for the eight days.
Lancerlot100 6 months ago
@Lancerlot100
What ever..... u don't have any proof about that !
Some of Christians try to make their belief much strong as they can !
When they remembered in jermaigh (8-8) the scriptures corrupted ( Not our words as Muslims ) bible say so .
So Holy quran fix and clear that errors and tells truth and confirming all scriptures in one book ( holy Quran ).
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@Lancerlot100 If you are Christian , then i'm sorry for you .
Because the god created human with natural Instinct .
That's natural thing drive him what ever his believe even if his believe is wrong .
That natural instinct drive the human to believe there is One true god , and that god sent messengers , So any person around world Except Atheists , Can imagine there is one true god , It's not fair plane or fair way for the god to divine him self in three forms .........
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@Lancerlot100
you can't even say the god got sons ,
the god is 100% different then his creations , God created animals , mountians , earth , Sky ....etc ) Also Angels so Why he need to take sons after all of that creations ? why he need to take son after every thing when he was alone over and over .
Dear Christian , Dear Jewish .... this is part from holy Quran , and the angel Gabril the messenger to mohammed (pbuh) heart by god Order and Permission .......
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@Lancerlot100
I hope dear jew or Christian : Read this verse from holy Quran and think about it , and make your mind free ...
Holy Quran Chapter 3 ( 64 - 74 ) .
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541
When you open your heart and mind , and just read holy Quran with full open view and see , why bible changed so many times , and you will find that book Holy Quran confirmed bible , and clear it's wrong things .
so it's book completed the whole books before it , you will find the oldtestment and new teastment in it's true vision , So We are Muslims Surrendered our souls and mind to mighty god , and believe in everything that revealed from his side and we do good deeds ........etc .
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541
I invite Christians and jewish , to this pure light , Just read it , try to understand , Is there any human by him self and Illiterate can make this great rules of religion with alot of knowldegment about bible and other books before it?
Can any boy do that thing in 23 years after 40 years old ?
That's must be from the god , let's see what that prophet ask you for ?
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541 He said : you have to believe in the creator of everything only and eternal one , So that sound looks great and acceptable , also he said : There is prophet , and he is Messaih , and the Christ , the one who did miracles by god Permission , even his birth is miracle , he taught us when we know him before and he lived among us as Arabians and taught us to believe in names that he didn't know it before : Abraham , lot , Noah , Moses and Jesus .........etc )) as true messenger of god ..
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541
that sound looks also fine , And he taught us to worship ? who him self ? No , to worship and pray for the creator , Also that sound looks great , and give charity to poor people in the way of god , that's makes me enough sure about this man , he also said wish to your brother as you wished to your self , respect and love your Neighbor , .........etc )) He order you in war stage to defend your self from Aggressors and not become hostile .........etc ))
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541 That's man is prophet (muhammed ) peace be upon him , the creator revealed in his heart holy spirit with honest words to teach people (( Good deeds )) and void bad things , So that's couldn't be from devil or evil side , It's true and pure thing , I invite the whole brothers from every where , to think one more about this truth , and start Question him self as he can , and seek for our Purpose from this life and why we die at the end ....etc))
Islam so clear and pure thanks .
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@shahin3541 but once the righteousness (of God) is revealed (Jesus) we are no longer under a tutor but is of faith. the law cant in anyway make a man clean, but by it you will know your sins. the law was added because of transgression. no one can follow the law except Jesus, so he has the right to abolish it to establish the new, on what law? the law of faith. ill repeat by observing the law no flesh will be saved. meaning no one can fulfill the law. why go back to it?
jardis09 6 months ago
shahin 3541 you are correct Jesus never claimed in his own word that he was God, and i study this very carefully, and i have the answer. Jesus did not say it because it is proper for him not to say it. for us (humans) any word can do, but for God to be God, the choice of word is proper and no deceit. Jesus, knowing he came from God, cant say that because he claimed his Father (who is God) is greater than him. if Jesus will say that, he will blaspheme his Father.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 All the way in the Bible Jesus(p.b.u,h) says that whatever he does it is by the will of his Father (God) and by the power given to him by Him.One of the basic concepts of God is self-sufficiency.God doesn't need to have anything from anyone to do anything.Rationally,there should not be any contradiction in the definition of God revealed in all the Divine Books and preached by all the prophets since the time of Adam.Jesus(p.b.u.h) was son of God in terms of obedience and not divinity.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 that is correct God does not need anyone, but God can do whatever he wants, if He wants a virgin will conceived and bear a son, if He want to leave us a seed He can do it. Abraham was the son of God in terms of faith or obedience but Jesus was the only begotten son of God in terms of divinity. Jesus did not come from dust but direct from God so Jesus has the divine nature. Jesus was with God in the beginning so he has the nature of God.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 "only begotten son of God"
If this is true then why the begotten term has been removed from the New International Version of the Bible.In the Quran this proposition is outright rejected. Now you might say the Quran speaks against the Bible.No,it doesn't ! The burning proof is that Mary(p.b.u.h) has been mentioned as the most honoured lady ever existed on the earth and her name is mentioned 32 times in the Quran. Jesus(p.b.u.h) is mentioned 25 times in the Quran but as a prophet.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 even if one word is add, remove or altered the meaning can be verify in other writtings. if begotten is remove, it is the same as "i came from God", or the same as " thiis is my beloved son in whom i am well please, hear him". or the same as,The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. so it can be verified if you want to. it is not a problem for me.
jardis09 6 months ago
@shahin3541 i know base on you answer you know the bible better than me, and i congratulate you for that. but my concern is this, how could you possibly introduce the one God whom you do not know? i am concern because the pharisees who do not know God invoke this verse "there is only one God" so they slain Jesus who tells the truth he came from God. they mistakenly apply this verse which is suppose to be preached for people worshiping other gods.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork". Psalms 10:1 The uniformity in the texture of the Universe reflects the Oneness of God in itself. In fact, since the time of the Adam there has been one mankind and one religion - that is the religion of Truth which proclaims there is none but one God worthy of worship and that there is a life after death which will be determined by our deeds in this life. Contd..
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 day after day uttered speech, and night after night show knowledge. Psalms 19:2. meaning everyday our surrounding is reveling who God really is. or the nature is Gods witness to humanity. since every day is enumerable days from the start of time, therefore a lot of information about God has been revealed. example of this is about his Son, and then after the Son comes the Holy Spirit.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Contd..1 If any religion contradicts this basic common message it will certain not stand the test of truthfulness.This religion of Truth has been represented by one hundred twenty four thousand prophets and several Divine Books, the Quran being the last and final for the whole of humanity.The authenticity of the Quran as a Divine revelation is now indisputable for a rational mind with scientific confirmation of several facts in various fields of studies stated in the Quran. Contd..
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 you know i work 8 years in saudi arabia, and in all those years i read some writtings about the koran and the bible, and i found out the bible is more reliable and accurate than koran. the koran in my view is just a bible interpretation of some verses in the bible, is just a personal explanation of some verses of the bible. any man can select a bible verse or select a bible story and then explain it.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 I can see your desire has badly taken over your reason.Can't you see the Bible is embedded with scientific ERRORS?Can you point out one single scientific contradiction in the Quran ? I can cite as many as you want. In fact it is other way round, my friend. There are quite a few verses in the Bible which continue to be Divine,others have fallen victim of human interference. Just think,how can God say the earth is flat unless the Bible has been tinkered with. JUST BE TRUTHFUL !
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 i am not a scientist and i am not a bible schoolar, i am just a simple working man. i cant find the whole errors, i can only find errors on the verses the way it is presented to me. the bible is telling us, not a single dot will by any means be removed until everything is accomplish. i believe that,, because God has so many ways to do that.. who is the adviser of God so as to instruct him? so i cannot find error in the book, only the interpretation has.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Anyway, my friend, I am packing up my discussion with you. Let me tell you I had no intention proving you wrong. All I wanted was to arrive at a common platform which could be justified universally. Please excuse me if you think I had hurt your feelings. Regards
shahin3541 6 months ago
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@shahin3541 i appreciate your discussion, thanks for your time and i pray the only one true God will have pity on us.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 only the interpretation has. ( You said )
Ok see this video ... in youtube ... (((
The Deen Show: A Christian Minister's Conversion to Islam ( 1 of 2 )
See if he was logical or not , give you your opinions back ..
Thanks again .
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@jardis09 "any man can select a bible verse or select a bible story and then explain it."
God has thrown open challenge in the Quran to whosoever has doubt over its Divinity,they can just produce a like chapter and the Quran will be proved wrong. The smallest chapter of Quran contain hardly 10 words and until now nobody could meet the challenge.You know Muhammad(p.b.u.h) was illiterate and that was a time when the culture of Arab was very rich in literature and poetry. But nobody could do it.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 you have said open challenge, now i cannot do that because no verse was presented. may be on the way of angles revelation, you know when mary ask the angel, how can this be? the angel make a collaborative facts and infered, your cousin elizabeth who is in old age,,, so the angel give a proof that he is indeed the messenger of God. and that is good. to erase/settle any doudt there must be tangible proof. or point of reference..
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Contd..2 And that is why the Quran is not just about Faith, rather it’s about a proven Faith.The Quran confirms the Divine status of the Bible except for the falsehood it is subjected to owing to vested interests.Now if there is only one religion why the mankind is divided into various segmental loyalties, each claiming to be the right one.In fact,it is the instinctive bigotries that makes us divisive and sectarian. In many cases the traditional Muslims are also no exception to this.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 in the garden of even, the devil deceived eve and then sin entered into man, so all man died for all have sinned. this problem of sin entered the very heart of man thereby polluted and corrupted our mind in every way. there is no way can a man escape this worldwide corruption. it is attached to the very vein of our being. sin is a disease that is pestering us. no amount of law can make us clean. no amount of ceremony can sanctify us, you know that,,,
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Contd..3 There are many a Muslim who apparently agree to the Oneness of God but their action doesn’t reflect their words. We all human beings, like the animals, are driven by our basic inborn instincts to behave the way we are but there is a super natural instinct (conscience) added up, in most cases, with religion to guide our behavior with reason. This is how mankind is differentiated with all other living beings and is accountable for the deeds to God. Contd..
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 no amount of religion can rectify us, search the history, look around you and look are yourself, how many times history repeat itself? why ? because we cannot do it. the corruption that live inside our heart is so strong that we cannot fight it. kingdom fight against kingdom, brother against brother, neighbor against neighbor, religion against religion. man kill each other because of earthly things. unless God will interfere man has no escape to perdition.
jardis09 6 months ago
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@jardis09 ESCAPISM has no place in Islam.
"THAT NO BEARER OF BURDENS WILL BEAR THE BURDEN OF ANOTHER." al Quran 53:38 " AND THAT THERE IS NOT FOR MAN EXCEPT THAT {GOOD} FOR WHICH HE STRIVES." al Quran 53:39 " AND THAT HIS EFFORT IS GOING TO BE SEEN." al Quran 53:40
" THEN HE WILL BE RECOMPENSED FOR IT WITH THE FULLEST RECOMPENSE." al Quran 53:41
" AND THAT TO YOUR LORD IS THE FINALITY." al Quran 53:42
There are people who still lead a pious life despite all the adversities in the world.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@jardis09 Contd..4 When there is a clash between desire and reason the result is determined by the one which is dominant – instinct or the super natural instinct. If reason is dominant we are more like an angel and if desire is dominant we are more like an animal. The more we stay in harmony with our conscience the more we are elevated to the spiritual height . The prophets are the chosen human beings whose level of spirituality puts them into divine vibration.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 but God because of love sent his Son to do it (the law). Jesus fulfill the law so that he can abolish it. what the law could not do, Jesus do it for us. the law could not sanctify a man. Jesus perform the righteous requirements of the law (God righteousness) so that in him the law has no effect. Jesus make the old obsolete so that he may establish the second. the law of faith, that whosoever believe in him,,, but if you believe not,, that is the big problem.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09“ “ FOR THOSE WHO ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD.” ROMANS 8:14
I hope now you can understand what the Bible means when somebody is referred to as son of God.It’s not that Jesus(p.b.u.h) is only referred to as the son of God.
“And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh,Thus saith the LORD,Israil is my son,even my firstborn.” Exodus 4:22
“ That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”Gen. 6:2
Contd..
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 Jesus said he came from God and that is enough. with or without the word begotten it is the same because it is unmistakenly conffirm by the verse, this is my beloved son in whom i am well pleas,hear him. in issac shall your seed shall be reckon,, where is the promise (seed) in the time of pharaoh? is it not on the israel? the sons of God in genesis 6:2 has many meaning until now. the children of God in romans 8:14 are people who are born again with the spirit of God.
jardis09 6 months ago
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@jardis09 Do you mean other prophets did not come from God ? The Bible uses the term "son" for all who are led by the spirit of God.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@jardis09 You can find many more verses in the Bible bearing the word son/s. It is because whoever is led by the spirit of God is the son of God, metaphorically and not literally.
As long as Jesus(p.b.u.h) being the begotten son of God is concerned, it is like blaspheming God to the highest degree as the phrase “beget” refers to lower animal function of sex. That is is the reason the word “begotten” is removed from the new International version of the Bible.
NO WAY TRUTH COULD BE SMOTHERED.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 yes, but with the word beloved, it is different, howmuch more the phrase ,hear him, as written by the those men who have personal account. they pesonally hear it and write it. the word beget is not a problem with me because, the one true God want it. i believe nothing is impossible with God, so why not if He wants to? the one God we are talking about decided to send part of his being (his right hand, his finger, his word i do not know) to solve this problem of sin.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 We consider Jesus(p.b.u.h) as one of our prophets and the extraordinary power he had is no surprise to us,because we know God endowed him with such abilities and in several verses Jesus(p.b.u.h) confirms this.Considering him the literal son of God opens the room of kinship which cannot be attributed to God.We believe God has no partners and associating any partner with God is an inexcusable sin.Anyway the choice is yours! But still I suggest you to rebrush your ideas as a truth-seeker.
shahin3541 6 months ago
@shahin3541 God is truth, man seek truth but truth is very illusive and very expensive, same as pontous pilate, when he asked,, what is truth? 2000 years ago until now men seek the truth. sometime, what we know or believe to be true is a lie. moses, when he was young believed he was the son of pharaohs daughter is a lie. sometimes what we believe in ourselves is a lie. yes, you are correct we should seek the truth because i believe those who do it is of God.
jardis09 6 months ago
JESUS son of GOD he die in a crosss and 3rd day resurection !!!! all muslim burn in hell like muhammad child reaper !!!
komo270 7 months ago
for thus people who are forcing that jesus is god try to be open minded and realize how could man or a person himself be a god?.. its so funny hahahaha lol.,..jesus is only a messenger of god...
0814kimcute 7 months ago
@0814kimcute Both N.T. and quran says Yeshua is the Only Sinless man.
God is sinless, Yeshua was sinless.
Yeshua the word was with God and was God.
gfscarface13 7 months ago
@0814kimcute why limit your God if he wants to do something? why compare God to man? why you laugh on what God has done? if to man, it is not possible, to God nothing is impossible. if God said, "unless the Lord of the Sabbath will leave us a seed,,," or " a virgin shall conceived and bear a son" or " destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up", he can do it. why? is your God limited?
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 You are right. In fact God has the ability to transcend all limits. He is capable of doing anything,even he is capable of causing disorder and chaos to the utmost level. But he doesn't do this unless there is some specific purpose. whatever God does it makes a sense and appeals to a rational mind. It doesn't make sense to God merging himself into creational form and putting His identity into confusion. It doesn't make sense to a rational mind. He stays quite clear in His entity.
shahin3541 6 months ago
MUSLIMS QUOTE 5:32, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A RARE "MODERATE" TEXT: "...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people..."; BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TEXT CLOSELY YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT IS NOT VERY MODERATE, IT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT KILL "UNLESS IT IS FOR MURDER OR SOMEONE WHO SPREADS MISCHIEF IN THE LAND". BUT YOU CAN KILL INFIDELS WHO ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE "PERVERTS, CURSED BY GOD, ETC", 5:51, 9:39, 3:28
DictaduraNo123 6 months ago
@shahin3541 PARDON: 9:30 "CHRISTIANAS AND JEWS ARE CURSED BY GOD"
DictaduraNo123 6 months ago
@shahin3541 remember your thoughts is not his thoughts and your ways is not his ways, why limit Him and say He cant do it? He did it. God send part of his being to become a man. why question God if He say, this is my beloved son in whom i am well pleased, hear him. are you one of the pharisee who want to kill Jesus because he claimed, destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up.
jardis09 6 months ago
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@0814kimcute why limit your God if he wants to do something? why compare God to man? why you laugh on what God has done? if to man, it is not possible, to God nothing is impossible. if God said, "unless the Lord of the Sabbath will leave us a seed,,," or " a virgin shall conceived and bear a son" or " destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up", he can do it. why? is your God limited?
jardis09 6 months ago
@0814kimcute why limit what God can do for us? if a soldier can bite the bullet in defense of his country and countrymen, why cannot God because of love give part of his being to become a man? you know, your thoughts is not the thought of God and your ways is not the way of God. if you know nothing is impossible with God, why say He cannot do that? who is the adviser of God so as to instruct Him?
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 why limit what God can do for us? ( You said ) .
You don't have rights to ask random Questions , to make your self in God place .
I mean : The god created us and he is the best one to judge us in the fair way ...
The god never punish any person untill he sent him messenger , The god knows , What is in your heart and what you think , You heard about Mohammed (pbuh) ? u know his message ? did you try in any where to seek in Islam and see what they are talking about ( by honest ) ?
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan why not ask question if you are in doubt? the bible is telling us to reason together, or test the spirit if they are of God. why not ask question to know the truth? God gave us mind to reason, why not use it? actually everyday we judge ourselves starting from the dress we should wear, the food to eat, the high way we go, the job we apply, the president we vote, etc,etc,. if we do not judge we are like robot.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09
Have you ever know who is that prophet Mohammed (pbuh) ?
My friend before you judge him in the wrong way , Open your heart and mind , and don't follow Hypocrites , be away from them and hater sources , by your soul and by your mind , let;s your mind judge you and thinks more and more , Go read Islam and holy Quran and try to study it as you can ..... then you have choice and Depending on that god will judge you ........
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan i do not study the quran but when i was in saudi arabia i study some phamplet and i learn a lot. i study only the writtings as presented to me. and i do not make judgement as a whole, i make judgement only on the verses presented to me. but before i make my comments, i study it, meditate it, and ask the guidance of God to help me. and sometimes do some research work. i analyze the verse, the word and the message.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 God can give any prophet , miracles , every thing planned from the god , but the system is one , that what god taught us , You have to worship him alone , he is eternal and only even Before he exit Jesus or any other prophet or even before he create all creations , He was alone and master of everything , So he don't need to figure him out in 3 forms or 1 but out of 3 or what ever contradictions , even Christians him self can't believe in that back to their sens and mind..........
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan you are correct God can make any man to perform miracles and wonders if God wants to. but my question is why God give it all to Jesus. walk on water, calm down the storm, make water into wine, make the blind see, raise the dead, etc.etc. why God give all to Jesus while other do not have?,
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Christians force them self and hearts and minds to believe , what they heard and study from their fathers , even if their fathers are in sins , They follow not logical mind , they say 1+1+1=3 but he is one not three , Mathematically that wrong , huge mistake . They just say if you have belief just believe in that and stop questions because questions from devil .........Man i tried to put my self in Christinty visions , But i swear i'm Muslim if god fair and Justice ...........
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan you know God consider husband and wife to be one flesh, for God said the two shall become one flesh. so God counted the two flesh as one. and then again we have heard, i and the father is one. so what is new? if God is speaking who will rebuke him? who is the adviser of God to instruct him?
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Christianty Must be false 100% ,
that why they planned to kill Jesus , Do you think they will let you get his message ?
If they are true ? then they built their christianty in vain and from that vain , they complete their wrong mistakes and get away from the true path , that why god sent his prophet Mohammed (pbuh) to confirm what they have , and clean their mistakes and bring them back to believe in one true message , There is only true one god . that's why they hate him ......
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan my friend, they (the pharisee) slain Jesus because they use the verse, there is only one God. this verse is only intended for those who is worshiping other god. think about it, why moses preach this message. are the people during that time worship other gods? check it. if anyone worships the true God, this verse is not applicable. why always emphasize this verse? even the devil believe in one God and trembles.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 Devils closed their eyes , when there is good man invite them to do good deeds , they ignore him , So do you think they will even follow Jesus ? Nope .
Mohammed (pbuh) taught us to believe in Jesus , that's different between us and them ,
Chrsitianty never can be true never even if i'm sane and wise person ,
Thanks god about this islam , it's bring us from darkness to the light , which we can share whole messages before , Islam completed everything that missed ! islam is the true .
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan there is only one truth that i know, that is Jesus is the son of God. sometimes what we believe to be true is a lie. my friend, when moses was young he believes he was the son of pharaohs daughter is a lie. sometimes we are not real, sometimes we are good sometimes we are bad. there is no truth in us. 500 years from now, nobody know if we really exist. my friend we live only for a moment, do not make your knowledge as the absolute.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09
the god sent every messenger to his people , speak their language , For Israel Jewsh the god sent Moses first and why they changed his message by so many lies , the god sent that Specified jewish another messenger Jesus (pbuh) the Christ and the god gave him miracles , at that time all those jewish who believed in Moses should follow Jesus , and those who didn't believe in moses should be ready for the judgement , and knows that was the truth .........
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan prophets of God are humans capable of commiting mistakes and sin. so do not rely on them, just study their message and compare and loook for errors. do not believe every teaching but test the teaching if they are from God. the berrians are good because they study the verses of the bible very carefully.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 do not believe every teaching but test the teaching if they are from God. ( You said ) .
That's was best thing you said .
Did u believe in god that he is Jesus ?? or Jesus his son ?
When god taught us in every single prophet , That he is eternal and he is the one and only , So Do you think god will confuse people and send him self ? in human form ? or should he take sons ? when he was alone ? the whole common message between all prophets ? the god is one and only expect Christians
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan God is only one, or there is only one God, i believe that. but this one God make part of his being to become a man. and i do not question God why he do that. this part of his being who became a man, he call it my beloved son in whom i am well please. God did not come here to become a man, only part of his being come here to become a man. almost all the christian commit a mistake by saying God came here to become a man, no.. only part of Gods being become a man
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09
John 5-30 (( If Jesus is god , Then why he said this (( By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. ))
This enough word to notice the whole trinity is forbidden and not even exit from the god or Jesus him self , that was Fabricated put inside bible to waste your mind . in that John 5-30 it's proves God there in sky and he sent Jesus as rest of prophets , You don't have any rights ? to divine god...
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan Jesus is God because he came from God. or his origin is God, or his nature is God. if you are the son of bamardof you are bamardof, if you are the son of balgonahim you are a balgonahim. so Jesus was the beloved son of God, so he is God in my opinion. do not persuade me to use the verse, there is only one God because this verse is too long time ago, a lot of revelation has come and that verse is intended only for those who is worshiping other gods.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09 So once again :Jesus said : By myself I can do nothing (( Which he never can be god or son of god , because he do things not by him self but by God Permission . God can let any prophet do any miracle even he can let Mohammed (pbuh) rise body from death to live , If the god wants . It's by god Permission .
Again back to that verse : I judge only as I hear (( that's mean he is messenger he should do what he hear from his god ) or I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.(< enough
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan you are correct, God can let anyone to rise from the dead if God wants to. but my question is why God permit Jesus to rise from the dead? why God did not permit others to rise? i think that is the starting point to think. God permit Jesus to rise from the dead while others not? there must be a reason why.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09
After JEsus and when they rejected him and tried to crossify him , the god rescued him and rise him to his own , that's why Jesus cried and call god to help him , God never punish his messenger for other human sins ( this is not logical fair way that we used to know about god )
And after Jesus , the god sent his last prophet not for Specific people , for every one the whole mankind , this is mercy from god , if you really know it , now that light spread around the world ......
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan Jesus did not cried for help in the cross, he did not ask anyone to help him. Jesus ask God, why you have forsaken me? it is just a question. Jesus did not say, my God please help me. but why Jesus was forsaken by God? because in Jesus flesh was the sins of humanity (only those who believe). why did he call God and not Father? why not call his Father? because in that time, Jesus was counted as trangressor.
jardis09 6 months ago
@jardis09
esus did not cried for help in the cross ( You Said ) ?
what he did screaming ?? what ever ? If that is true then jesus should offer him self to that situation , Didn't he is god according Christians ? or he is his son ? then he should offer him self to that situation not to ask his god for help ? that's proves there is somthing wired and wrong between bibles words , In islam it's easy just ask the god in your true wells then the god will forgive you , no need to hurt any body .
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@jardis09 now every one heard about Mohammed (pbuh) and alot of people from different countries believed in him some of them Scientists , everything will back to the god , the one who exit us when we were nothing of time , we die and that is enough sin to believe he will bring us back again , and judge us in the fair way .
Muslims believed in everything revealed from the god , that's the main logic can make us more trust .
We don't make any Discrimination between all prophet .
ThePurityMan 6 months ago
@ThePurityMan how do you know the revelation to you (by someone) is from God? anybody can claim he was from God, but how can you distinguish if they are from God or not? what is your gage or criteria? you know today a lot of people are claiming their teaching is from God. how do you know it is from God? a lot of people are claiming they are right about this and that. the bible is teaching us, donot believe every spirit, but test the spirit if they are of God. are you testing every teaching?
jardis09 6 months ago
all these sad lonely dependant people
DaAlphaOmega 8 months ago
I study comparative open minded religion. Meaning I dont have a closed slanted, intolerable view of religion. Most religious fanatics get lost in their fanatism! I'm about truth, & the truth is we're all reflections of god but we are also reflections of the dark side which is egotism. We need to become intuned with love & peace. That's what I call being like god,&is the only truth we need to know despite our differences we'rethe same. Lets stop this my religion vs yours crap!
charronfamilyconnect 8 months ago