Fascinating Bible code - Pi and natural log - Amazing

[gregrutz]

The word of God? I don't think he wrote anything down ?!?

[guineapiggyman]

i love how these idiots believe in the bible code. did you know you can also find similar things in many other books? for instance, moby dick predicts hitler, the cold war, the gulf war, and 9-11. now, did god write that? you people have a thing called pareidolic minds

[GODSIMMORTALTHUG]

The WORD is mind numbing and riddled with true riches. We can not even imagine or wrap our minds around all of the mysteries of the Most High. At the same time they are here (in the WORD) for us to discover and to test because He loves us. In a world full of darkness He gave us a guiding light, but for them that have the eyes to see and the ears to hear. He will always defend his word until the end of time and that is why we should stay covered. We should have on the whole armor at all times...

[DoghouseFilms]

its because God in His infinite wisdom INSPIRED (breathed upon/out) the Books of the Bible, and human authors wrote them down. There is amazing, fascinating, beautiful, and hopefully symbology in the Bible, but above all remember that there is no reason to gain understanding and knowledge if your not doing it for the love of Christ.

[guineapiggyman]

@DoghouseFilms false!, sorry but false. and theres proof of it

[mattdistad]

sounds like you got WAY too much time on your hands

[EvolutieOnzin]

@Adkit2 The problem with your comparison to Origin Codes is that I'm not looking for any random number. It's all been 7s until now. And it doesn't work with 6s or 8s. Also it's not 5-10 words that seem to be related it's more than 75 multiples of 7.

No person could even write it like this on purpose without a supercomputer and years of time. Jet there it is in a 2000 year old manuscript.

And these are not isolated events.

[EvolutieOnzin]

The vocabulary of each 1st and last word of each book in the NT together is 7x4. In the Gospels alone its 7. The total gematrical value of those words is 7x6707. The shortest word had a value of 7x10 and the longest word (apocalipsis) has a value of 7x6x6x6.

The vocabulary unique to Matthew is 7x6 (with 7x18 letters). But the unique vocabulary of Mark, Luke or John are also a multiple of 7.

Want me to go on? It's all only 7s

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin So the scribes were clever. It proves nothing. It doesn't take a god to come up with words that spell a certain way when laid out a certain way. For example, I Ate Many SHORT Armidillos Nearly Daily. FAT builds up in arteries in a harmful manner. Take the capitalized letters, it reads out a certain way. Then notice that the first letter of each of the first three words is capitalized, followed by the entire fourth word following the first in the sequence.

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin Look up Caesar's cipher, does that mean that he was a god too? Consider that he was a pagan, would the Abrahamic god have communicated with him? Or try this that I'm thinking of as I type: 110-11010-11-1100-0-11111-1000­0-11010. Am I a god because I can take a sentence, translate each letter and symbol into a number, then translate that number into binary in a minute? Much more complex than writing words into a text in a certain way, not as clever, but more complex.

[EvolutieOnzin]

@silencesoloud12 I'm afraid you don't understand the scale of things.

The NT books were written by different authors in different times. Also the "watch?v=--ArCU4jPeQ" example could not be written by people without a computer. And if you don't believe me: Try it your self! Even with half the rules. Also the text isn't random sentences, but the are in context with the rest of the story.

Everyone could create some coded text (like your example), but not like this. Try it...

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin The authors report that, by adding some appellations and removing some appellations from WRR's list 2, and then repeating the test on the initial 78,064 letters (the length of Genesis) of a Hebrew translation of War and Peace, they achieved a significance level of one in a million. The authors say this shows that "the freedom provided just in the selection of appellations is sufficient to explain the strong result" in WRR's 1994 paper. From the criticisms of the "code".

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin The authors present experiments they conducted which they say show that some results of experiments by WRR and Harold Gans are "too good to be true." That is, some of the results are statistically improbable even if one accepts that WRR's hypothesis is true. The authors say that these studies "give support to the theory that WRR's experiments were tuned toward an overly idealized result consistent with the common expectations of statistically naïve researchers." Another criticism.

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin Responding to an explicit challenge from Drosnin, who claimed that other texts such as Moby-Dick would not yield ELS results comparable to the Torah, McKay created a new experiment that was tuned to find many ELS letter arrays in Moby-Dick that relate to modern events, including the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr.

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin He also found a code relating to the Rabin assassination, containing the assassin's first and last name and the university he attended, as well as the motive ("Oslo", relating to the Oslo accords). And another.

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin In his television series John Safran vs God, Australian television personality John Safran and McKay again demonstrated the "tuning" technique, demonstrating that these techniques could produce "evidence" of the September 11 terrorist attacks on New York in the lyrics of Vanilla Ice's repertoire. And another.

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin Note, you asked for 1 other text with a code. I have presented several, many with accurate predictions. This proves that if you look hard enough, in a certain manner you can find examples of coded text in many documents. And writing words into text, with it still making perfect sense and following the story of the document is not that difficult. You only need to find a synonym with the letter you want to place into your code, for example, replace book with text and you get a T.

[EvolutieOnzin]

@silencesoloud12 I guest you didn't read my previous reactions to user Adkit2. I don't believe in the ELS Biblecodes for the same reason you don't. If you search a big enough text you will likely find a random ELS frequency that shows a few "coded" words that could be related with some imagination.

Apparently you don't see that this is something completely different, and it is totally statistically improbable.

Please read my claims first before sending 6 reactions of unrelated copied text.

[silencesoloud12]

@EvolutieOnzin Actually, from reading your previous comments, you mention codes in the bible, making it easy to assume that you're refering to the ELS codes, considering that they're known as the "Biblecodes". I'll concede that point, since you clarified it. However, you assume that pi was unknown prior to the bible. It wasn't, in 1900 BC (1900 years prior to the events in the New Testament), the Egyptians and Babylonians had approximations within 1% of pi.

[EvolutieOnzin]

@silencesoloud12 The only source I found was that of Archimedes in about 250 BC, after the Bible was translated in to Greek. So I would be interested in your Source. But I believe the main point was that both Pi and e were encoded in the 2 OT en NT passages about creation, and these passages are still very readable and in context.

I think man can't write text like that on purpose without a computer.

[RsinsRpaid]

@silencesoloud12 But really now. I read some of the thread and you must think someone/something other than divide inspiration was responsible for this code in Gen & John.

My question is what about the 100s of other instances in the OT - that have these same ear marks & features of design hidden beneath the text? I mean personally ive seen over 100 and can walk someone through a good 50 of them... I even found a dozen things like this within the dimensions of, and names around the Tabernacle...

[webmastertool]

I just threw up watching this video. If i multiplied that by 100000 and divide that by 1023 does that equal Euler's identity?

[lizazoon]

There is no more code in the bible as in " Snowwhite and the 7 Dwarfs". Period.

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[omega771]

i think the bible code is there but i think that god is not needed to incode shit. you are claiming this because you think ppl of that time where dumb but they where not mystics can do shit like this now. the word is thought and vibration which quantum physics would say are the bases of reality. so theres your word(logos) god created from thought so you are the imagination of god.

[hamaszg]

Pi x 10^16, e x 10^65????r u freeking kiding me??this is proof? where r this exponents coming from? or is god a little noobish at math?

GOD DOES NOT EXIST, WHEN U DIE UR DEAD AND U EVOLVED FROM A MONKEY! DEAL WITH IT!

[omega771]

god does exist its just not the guy from the bible. it is the unified field... god is energy and mind (not brain) with out personality and nothing can be created or destoryed so what does dead mean?

[moestietabarnak]

what it mean by 'the product of the word' ?

let say i got two word with letter value 1 2 3 4 5

12 345

does that mean:

12 * 345 = 4140

or

(1+2) * (3+4+5) = 24

or something else?

intrigued..

[Calebkoss]

Old testament original language is Hebrew and the new testament original is Greek.

[twinretina]

Tje theoretical megalithic yard equals 2.7216 feet ---not bad for a bunch of low - brows

[zatlappe]

huh first you take hebrew and than greek?

and isnt the bible edited a lot??????

[anthonykulit]

Sir if I may address my question, how did you come to mind to multiply the number of letter to the product of the letter over the numbers of words mutiply the product of the number of words?

[Philos2006]

EvolutieOnzin : You have just an overactive imagination. There is nothing to explain. With the same reasoning you come to the same conclusion in " Little Red Riding Hood "

[EvolutieOnzin]

OK Philos2006, I've laid my proof on the table, you can verify it if you try or dare.

Show me that "Little Red Riding Hood" has structures like that, including a hidden message (that is related to the story) overlay-ed over the same passage.

By the way, you still haven't explained how any of this could be possible by coincidence. You say it's imagination, but you can check the facts your self.

[EvolutieOnzin]

Let make it even more interesting...

AGAIN Gen1v1: find the first letter Tau (or T) skip 49(7x7) letters you find a O again 7x7 letters: R and again: H. This spells TORH (Hebrew for Torah)

Next book, the same thing: TORH!

Skip 1 book.

Next book the same in reverse!

And next book to that (last book of the Torah) again the same thing in reverse!

Now the book we skipped: 7 letter skipping reveals: YHWH (Jehovah)

Try finding the author and the book name this way in "Little Red..." also.

[Adkit2]

@EvolutieOnzin Little Red Riding Hood is a bad example because it's not as friggin LONG as the bible is. Let some monkeys type down a random set of letters in the same length as the bible and you COULD find "codes" like this. It's a fact. It's been done with some other, smaller books. And also, the bible code is friggin stupid.

[EvolutieOnzin]

@Adkit2 : OK so show me 1 book, ANY book that has (by accident) the name of the book, the name of the author, the favorite number of the author and a universal constant encoded in the text, just like I showed the Bible had.

If you say monkeys can type this by random, then show me out of ALL the books in the world, just one book that shows these features.

If this is just a random phenomena, you should be able to show me another example of this.

Proof me wrong!!

[Adkit2]

@EvolutieOnzin Ok, google "the origin codes". There, I just proved you wrong. You are now officially wrong. You will stop claiming the bible code exists and you will apologize to me and everybody you've commented to.

The thing is that when you get to pick YOURSELF what words you want to find, in what direction to find them and in what language then you can find THOUSANDS of words in the bible. It's simple statistics! I'll be awaiting that apology.

[EvolutieOnzin]

@Adkit2:

- 7 or 7x7 is a very specific number in the Bible.

- Language is Hebrew like the text itself.

- No random location. It's the beginning of each of the 5 books of the Torah.

- Not just random words: Name of the book and the author.

I wasn't speaking of the Torahcodes alone. It's combined with Pi (see this vid) and the 12 structures of 7 in Gen 1:1.

I agree the bible codes are just a statistic probability, but I these examples are a statistic improbability.

ps: which Google result?

[Adkit2]

@EvolutieOnzin The FIRST google result, the one with "Stellar Alchemy" in the title. x.x

There are two very important points here: first of all, you're saying that all the "codes" in the bible and also the ones in Origin of the Species shown on the link I refered you to... you're saying that ALL of those codes are real. Not just the ones YOU want to be real. You can't have the cake and eat it too.

Secondly, you're saying that a name is somehow a "code". Brilliant code there, God. Way to go.

[EvolutieOnzin]

@Adkit2 : I never sad that I believe the Biblecode with random ELS numbers. I also never sad that a name is a 'code'. Don't twist my words!

I do find it interesting if these ELS frequencies are 7 or 7x7 and the word starts in each first sentence of the 5 torah books. So the location and ELS frequency are not random.

Also if the first book shows this AND PI (as shown in this vid) AND the 12 structures of 7.

No one has shown this in any other book. Please try to see the difference here.

[Adkit2]

@EvolutieOnzin You know why nobody's found it in any other book? Because nobody's obsessed over it as much as the biblecoders have. x.x Look long enough and eventually you WILL see the image of Jesus in that toast. What are the odds of an image being in a toast, of Jesus even?! Surely it's God speaking to us.

And no, that example doesn't make any less sense than "the bible code". You can't pick and choose what makes sense, you either understand statistics or you don't.

[EvolutieOnzin]

@Adkit2: " you either understand statistics or you don't ". If you can explain this away with statistical probability, I doubt your understanding of statistics.

But maybe you should watch "watch?v=--ArCU4jPeQ" and explain that away with statistical probability. (And check it if you don't believe it)

[Adkit2]

@EvolutieOnzin I don't have to explain that away with statistical probability, I could just tell you that the bible you're reading today has been re-written, edited, re-told, re-edited, had stuff removed on the whim of a pope, had stuff put in on the whim of a pope and so on. I mean "the bible" isn't even a book, it's a collection of stories from different areas and times. So how could it even have some "code" in it? x.x

AND what would be the point? Occam's razor?

[EvolutieOnzin]

@Adkit2 : That's something a lot of people say, who haven't researched it. The text that last vid was talking about had later been found quoted in a letter from Irenaeus written in 150 AD, and the it was still the same as the text we have now. Also earlier partial manuscripts (70 ad) from the bible show the text hasn't changed. And no pope touched those.

But even if you were right about that, It's still a chance of 1 / 7^34 this could happen at random. So it would be an even bigger miracle.

[Adkit2]

@EvolutieOnzin "It's still a chance of 1 / 7^34 this could happen at random" oh and there you go... you don't understand statistics. x.x Just like I said. Did you even google "the origin codes"? I'm still waiting for that apology. Since the odds of the things he found using the origin codes are just as minute as the things you claim to have found in the bible.

P.S. My point about MOST OF the bible being an unrelated collection of texts still stand.

[lesterclaypool1]

check out Eulers number ,,,,,LOL

[EvolutieOnzin]

Also did you know that Gen 1:1 (in Hebrew) has 7 words, 28 (4x7) letters.

Each letter in Hebrew has a numerical equivalent.

- There is one verb ("created") with a numerical value of 203 (29x7)

- 1st and last letters of 1st and last words have a numerical value 497 (17x7)

- Value of remaining 1st and last letters is 896 (128x7)

There are 12 of these structures of 7 in Gen 1:1 alone.

You'll find them trough the whole Bible. But not in other books.

Try to explain that with coincidence!!

[RuleOfLogic]

So your argument is that you can create arbitrary numbers and then factor an e or pi out of them?

That has no meaning of any sort. I am going to make a number by mashing my hand on the keyboard at random (removing any letters typed in that number before submitting).

768572356609805692 is my number, it is also roughly equal to e*2.83*10^17 and to pi*2.45*10^17.

I can factor both e and pi out of my random mash, does that make my hands god, does it make them even dinively inspired?

[EvolutieOnzin]

Strange though, that the 2 verses about creation show this. And they show it with only factors of 10, and not a factor of about 2.83 of 2.45 times 10 to the power of x.

If your random mashing could do that, and it appears that the text characters also spell out the basics of the evolution theory, then I will believe that this "Bible miracle" was only a coincidence.

It appears to me that the creator of math and language also understands it quite well!!

[Philos2006]

EvolutieOnzin : Your name says it all. You are a brainwashed, individual.

[EvolutieOnzin]

You don't know me, know nothing about me, and by only my user name you say that I'm brainwashed...

Well sir, than you are prejudice OR you can not accept that I hold a different view than you.

But still, can anyone explain away the miracle stated in this video?

[Philos2006]

EvolutieOnzin ---But still, can anyone explain away the miracle stated in this video?-- Here is the explanation B U L L S H I T .

[EvolutieOnzin]

Sad that you have to be childish about it...

But if saying this helps you to ignore the message in this video, than you're free to do that. The question is: Are you looking for the truth, or for a way to ignore truth?

Again: Try to explain how this can be possible by coincidence. Or do you think that the writers of the Bible were so good in Math that the discovered Pi en e 2000 years ago, and managed to code them in the texts about creation...

[MTGandP]

That thing about pi is a complete coincidence. The number of letters times the product of the letters etc is overly complicated. And one is Greek and the other is Hebrew.

This is exactly why everyone in the world should read Innumeracy.

"Alone, they can be viewed as coincidence, but together" they are a somewhat less likely coincidence.

[dcvdmark]

Nice!

But I can't help but wonder why God would round the number to 4 decimals... But if He wouldn't round at all, the Bible would be very very very large, and impossible to read.

Also I don't get why it has to be "x 10^17" or "x 10^65". But then again, who am I to understand God completely.

I would like to know if other such things are in the Bible. Can you make more vid's about that?

[RoelGeurtsen]

Wow ,Our God is an awesome God!,great vid!