Antisocial Personality Disorder

[thunderheart226]

what about a score of 20+?

[Alba12349]

Im sick of all these new names like "Antisocial Personality Disorder" and all that shit.

Just call them what they are without trying to be nice or sensitive about it.

they are psychopaths nothing more nothing less.

[blkbrd13]

@Alba12349 Psychopathy and APD are not interchangable terms. They are two entities of similar, but separate, diagnoses.

[gracielaphillippe]

@Alba12349 Actually, "psychopath" or "sociopath" is not a diagnosis at all. Antisocial Personality Disorder is not the term to describe or label the person; it is the name of the disorder itself--aka, the diagnosis. So we're not trying to be "nice;" we're trying to be truthful.

[schlumbucket]

That's ME!!!

[bigxp00py]

@GreatWar16 you sound like a psychopath

[begood4000]

These types are in virtually every walk of life. Wives, husbands, bosses, etc. They are everywhere. The best defense is to take relationships slow and at the hint something is wrong leave and don't look back. As dealing with such a person long term is very hazardous to ones health.

[155MikeC]

The only problem is, the psychopaths are running the countries.

[clearpancho]

@155MikeC ya they are :/

[RedTailedTuna]

Instead of trying make up an interpretation what a psychopath is why don't you work more on a way of making them better that doesn't involve drugs.

What you are doing now isn't helping anyone.

[RedTailedTuna]

Instead of trying make up an interpretation what a psychopath is why don't you work more on a way of making them better that doesn't involve drugs.

What you are doing now isn't helping anyone.

[skabby101]

@Jadi444 Read or reread the DSM II, then get back to me on how your sister would act if she truly had these emotions and disorder. dumbshit

[skabby101]

@Jadi444 shut the hell up...

[wwenativewolf]

so their calling me a pyscho for having anti-social personaity....well....they should be looking at themselves.....their just some people labeling people for having a mental disorder...i would call them haters'....

[charlenemonique1]

Why can't these people just live somewhere away from other people since they dont care about anyone anyway and there is no cure for them.It would be better than screwing up everyone else's lives around them.I think I used to know one of them.

[Hadesofthe07]

why isn't this video titled psychopathy?

[StlyDutch]

Psychopathy =/= antisocial personality disorder, these disorders have a lot in common and people may have both, though they are not the same.

[loggeronline]

@StlyDutch @StlyDutch What are the differences? The DSM-IV mentions APD, but not psychopathy, nor sociopathy.

[loggeronline]

@StlyDutch @StlyDutch What are the differences? The DSM-IV mentions APD, but not psychopathy, nor sociopathy.

[StlyDutch]

@loggeronline The difference is that psychopathy is measured with the checklist shown in this video, but ASPD is diagnosed with the DSM-IV. The criteria are slightly different.. so in theory there's a pretty clear difference, although in practice I guess most people with ASPD are also psychopathic.

[childentrails]

I pissed on my dog yesterday

[TheAlabamaboy1]

@childentrails rofl

[ipoonu101]

What would I be, if I enjoy annoying the shit out of weak people and then blatenly lying to the teacher when the victim tells on me? I have been warned not to annoy these certain people on various occasions, but I can't stop, their pissed off facial expression amuses me and I love it. It's getting to a stage now where I want to kick the shit out of the person to make them even more pissed off and frightened.

[starqz]

@ipoonu101 I don't know, maybe it makes you an asshole?

[wwwtotalitaerde]

The German state today systematically uses torture and assassination to shut down everyone complaining immediately. Examples are Heiner Gehring ( author ) or Uwe Barschel. My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during five and a half years and then was assassinated. Because of our book and homepage linked on my channel. Anybody who dares to tackle the German human rights abuses?

[MultiBrooklyn2010]

WHere is the love? Gosh people, this antisocial disorder is indeed a disorder...And Hate isn't any kind of cure to anything!!!!!!!!

[MultiBrooklyn2010]

"I guess it's the dumber and less capable psychopaths who end up in prison" ...really? I can't believe you would say such a thing..

[AntiPsychopath]

a bullet through their heads is the only cure.

[gert83]

ASPD and psychopathy are not the same thing - they are similar, narcissistic disorders, but most people with ASPD are not psychopaths, and not every psychopath overtly breaks the law.

[bksocaluv]

@gert83 according to the DSM IV- TR they are. It is under debate now

[gert83]

@bksocaluv I know. I don't think it's helpful. The people who caused Enron, or the Credit Crisis are highly egocentric and indifferent to the needs and rights of others.

In the case of Enron, these people were not conventionally anti-social, and in the case of the credit crisis, the authors didn't even break the law.

Yet these people have caused more damage to society at large than the actions of most criminal psychopaths, who damage, perhaps, a few tens of victims.

[gert83]

@bksocaluv I am convinced they are different, and so is Bob Hare, for example. I have seen bosses who destroy and bully the people around them without compunction, and manipulate their own bosses. At what point does this behaviour become a narcissistic disorder? For those whom they pick on, the answer is immediately, for their bosses or the rest of us, perhaps only when their behaviour causes valued personnel to leave, or they are caught committing a fraud, perhaps on a grand scale....

[gert83]

@bksocaluv I do think that people showing traits of glibness, egocentricity, callousness but who do not have the levels of impulsiveness or poor behavioural controls of a criminal psychopath can do well in environments rewarding a competitive attitude.

The corporate world, politics or high level sport are full of these characters.

They won't knife you if you annoy them, but they might fire you for no reason, or send a hitman round to do their dirty work...

[gert83]

The confusion between ASPD and psychopathy is very unhelpful. Currently in the UK, ASPD is the diagnosis, and to be diagnosed you need to have broken the law.

This prevents us from officially acknowledging what everyone knows - that most psychopaths don't break the law, and many of them do well in environments requiring an indifferent attitude to ethics - e.g. corporate or politics.

[leeannechristine]

wow. This is my ex. I always said he had anti social dissociative disorder. This explains him to a tee! I just hope he doesnt prey on another girl as he did me. :( Watch out girls! If you see any of these signs, LEAVE!!

[skinnyman1423]

ok now that is generalization at its worst just because you got screwed over by a guy who was a sociopath doesn't mean that it will happen to every person who dates a sociopath. you seem quick to judge what you have yet to fully understand, im a sociopath and i have never in my life used my girlfriend like a pawn and yeah i'll use people if it will be to my advantage but it's a kill or be killed world and as malcom x said "by any means necessary".

[slicknicknirvana]

@leeannechristine i think a girl i went out with had this.she had superficial charm,lacked empathy,was callous.

[LeMegasandwich]

must take test

[fetalbetal]

Don't blame the sociopath, blame society. What else can be expected when "god" is on the dirty dollar. Kill or be killed. There are advantages to the psychotic state of mind that those without it fear to understand or even contemplate.

[balianmachiavelli]

the best place to hide is... in - sanity

[constructedcharisma]

Yup I'm spamming, okay not entirely. I see questions here and there about psychopathy and sociopathy so I wanted to offer a site:

thepaths . webs . com

Not spamming for the sake of spamming.

[301001082]

In the land of the mad the half mad is king

[EminemLove24]

@301001082 "In a mad world, only the mad are sane" . -Akira Kurosawa

:)

[Zhawq]

@EminemLove24 .. ah honto-ni!?? yeah, I understand what he means. But Psychopaths are not "mad". And neither are people with Antisocial Personality Disorder.

[clearpancho]

@EminemLove24 its honestly the most truest thing to say, its hard to grasp for most people though

[nat11311]

I was diagnosed as anti-social personality last week,what bullshit!I was so pissed,I'm a 19 year old girl who paints her toe nails pink,I don't even have a criminal record. They say they have a PHD these frauds.

[Keinbby]

@submara : anti social personality disorder patients can feel happiness and pain and every array of emotion : only when it involves themselves. The problem is that they cannot feel for other people, nor do they care. They will pretend to follow you in a coversation but honestly not give a fuck. They are great actors and very manipulative.

[ipoonu101]

@Keinbby: If I don't give a shit about africans and shit who are dying and the war on terror or even my grandpa dying, does that make me antisocial? And wtf is a conscience?

[professorKmusic]

@ipoonu101 yeah if you dont care about your grandpa dying...something is wrong with you

[submura]

i still am confused whether or not a sociopath feels happiness, enjoys life, has fun, gets scared, cries?

[arsonin]

@submura

sociopaths arent insane...they are just sick people that enjoy sick things.

and they know they are fucked up.

[sovietmarxist]

@arsonin

That's not antisocial.

[arsonin]

im antisocial...i absolutly cant stand being around other people

but im perfectly happy ^.^ its not a disorder. some people just dont need other people

[WonderWoman1045]

@arsonin

That would be more of a Schizoid, where lack interest in soical relationships.

Antisocial's Have no empathy or conscience

[ilygs]

being antisocial and having antisocial personality disorder are entirely different things. like they said in the video, only about 1% of the population has antisocial personality disorder, and it is far more serious than just being anti-social, as people with the disorder tend to commit horrible crimes, such as murder, with no remorse. many serial killers have had anti-social personality disorder.

[SalmonSoldier]

@Icix1 well, borderline would be an acceptable term. Throw away those feelings and join the rest of us.

[Icix1]

@SalmonSoldier

If it was that easy, I definitely would have years ago....

[YoutudesOwner]

@Icix1

pussy.

[Krowsnose]

I was a real bastard for a while. I think it was narcissism fueling my callousness to others the most. Then I got addicted to drugs. I thought I was powerful enough to do get addicted but long story short it turned my life upside down and now I understand humility.

[newhorizons1970]

it is not nescessarily these people stay undetected. More likely is they are detected and praised for leadership, or, when they are 'ordinary' people, without status, once detected, they move to another playground. Victims keep their mouths shut, out of fear.

[slimyoshady]

i just discovered that actually i'm

90% antisocial

10% narcissistic

damm

wtf should i do?

should i kill u all?

or just some of u

muahahahhahaha

sometimes im just uncounceous but i dont know why...

[superjyoti]

thanks alot, it helped me with my assignment!

[Take2nPass]

where can i take this test?

[barcode9588]

It's not a test, it's a set of diagnostic criteria. Only qualified, certified psychologists and medical professionals with diagnostic authority can administer it.

[infrasomnia]

blah blah

[soadluvr8]

i have that book!

[ChadHorney]

Easy though it is to revile these people, Psychopathy is actually pretty tragic. It's kind of like moral autism -these people stick their heads out into the world more or less guaranteed to leave a trail of destruction in their wakes, which will ultimately include themselves.

A psychopath perceives compassion in others as weakness, so this isn't the answer, but early ID (currently not legal in most places) could help to mitigate the effect psychopaths have on others and themselves.

[BurntPoultry]

Yep. My sister is a sociopath. Ever see Girl, Interrupted? Her in a nutshell.

[bassk1000o]

ill check it out

[swastedcat]

i love taking Vilift, it's all natural so i dont worry about side effects. it's really effective.

[megaswenson]

I guess it's the dumber and less capable psycopaths who end up in prison. The really smart and capable ones become businessmen, ministers, coaches, school principals, and politicians. They mask their true selves, and prey upon others with the effective cooperation of society.

So, is Psycopathy the next step up from Narcissism? I'm seeing elements of both disorders in my old boss, who made it close to the absolute pinnacle of his profession, but destroyed anyone who got too close to him.

[LeetleGreyCells]

I'd also say that most behaviours manifest on a spectrum, so some more extreme sociopaths run afoul of the law.

The combination profile is interesting. This is anecdotal and plagued with the problems of self-report, but I have noticed that narcissism might be the form that self-obsession/other-indiffere­nce takes in females, whereas males in the same family seem more likely to be sociopathic.

[megaswenson]

LeetleGreyCells: Your comment about narcissism in females, and sociopathy in male siblings brought up memories of a family in our town. The daughter was a title-holding beauty queen. One son was an out-of-control drag queen. The other son was a hypermasculine bisexual bad-boy, who loved to bite his lovers' noses off. "Can you imagine what Thanksgiving dinner must be like at THEIR house?" a friend used to say.

So, I guess that little family would illustrate your theory rather well.

[LeetleGreyCells]

Woah! Thanksgiving dinner at the house of a family with *out of control* hormones could put me off my appetite.

I'm serious, it's likely that homosexuality is caused by in-utero (or early development) hormone levels that differ from the norm. Perhaps the "hypermasculine bisexual bad-boy" was a reincarnated sea otter.

[crimsonembers1]

My cousin Janet has an antisocial disorder she has total disregard for other people. She is a money grabber and has never worked properly. She has caused massive family break up and lost my half sisters grand children their inheritance. she has no concept of eticate, she is also a liar. The sad thing about her is she thinks she is very clever, like coming to our wedding and not buying a present. The trouble is my sister cant see through her and she is doing so much damage to my sister.

[bigredchokeslam]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[hungry4stink]

antisocial is very rare in women. it may be more likely that she fits into a "borderline personality disorder".

[G8tDestroyer]

That is incorrect. Women R more prone 2 receive it genectically. When women get it, they get a dose 3 times that of a man...making it really bad. They will lie, cheat, steal. Work on a scheme 4 years. They do not care who they hurt. What they lie about doesn't even have to make sense, it usually doesn't. They just want to manipulate U, weather it pertains 2 money or control....they want it. They will kick there own father out of his house, & sell the house, not come 2 a funeral.

[hungry4stink]

im sorry, you are wrong. prevalence rates are approximately 3% in males, and less than 1% in females (according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders -IV TR).

[ChadHorney]

In some jurisdictions these disorders are viewed as being at different points on a narcissistic continuum, and most extreme narcissists, such as Maligant NPs may engage in anti-social and aggressive behaviour as part of the disorder. They would certainly be considered at least mildly psychopathic if submitted to the hare checklist.

True Psychopaths don't need external narcissistic supply though, and milder NPs are not neccesarily inclined towards anti-social behaviour.

[megaswenson]

ChadHorney: Thanks for answering my question!

[barcode9588]

Narcissism, but not necessarily Narcissistic Personality Disorder, is an element of Psychopathy. Narcissism exists as a dimension of psychopathy, although current research suggests that Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and Psychopathy share many features in common and whose prevalence in both subclinical and forensic populations do overlap (see Paulhus, D., University of British Columbia)

[megaswenson]

Thanks, barcode9588! That's the best clarification, yet. And thanks for mentioning Machiavellianism. I'd never heard that term in a clinical context, but have an idea what it is. But I will research it tonight. I have a feeling it may answer questions about several powerful individuals I have to deal with. Thanks again!

[Zhawq]

@megaswenson No, One Step up from Narcissism is Malignant Narcissism. Neither are Psychopathy.

Psychopaths and narcissists can SEEM very alike, but they are very different. If you know someone is a Narcissist, it is easy to deal with them since they have some very easily reachable weaknesses. This is not the case with Psychopaths. Narcissists Need to seem great, Psychopaths always feel they're great, it's in their nature, so to speak. - Your first statement is pure ignorance, my friend!... '^L^,

[tmalik78]

They intentionally kill the feelings of Sympathy, Love and Goodness from their personality. By doing so they protect themselves from any effect of emotional variation received from next person and where as they variety these feelings within the next person while tries to keep them mentally unstable and obedient to their commands, wishes. These people have very nice faces whereas remains under shield and in disguised. People who have goodness in their personalities are their first victims.

[SephirothRyu]

They don't kill the feelings.  They never develop them in the first place. As for their first victims, they can be anyone at all. ...Btw, why'd you capitalize them?

[dickmorrison]

so is it safe to say that the biggest misconception is that psychopaths dont feel pain agony or guilt?

[twisterlemonade]

Pain and agony yes, there's nothing to stop them from feeling physical pain. But I'm not so sure about guilt. I think that a full-blown psychopath (not only a person with some antisocial features) would not feel any guilt over having hurt someone etc. It's the way they are; they don't care about other people.

[dickmorrison]

so can a person show all anti-social features and still not be a full blown psycopath? is that possible?

[twisterlemonade]

I guess so. Antisocial personality disorder is more of a behavior model, basically meaning continuous criminal behavior even in adulthood, while psychopathy and sociopathy describe a certain psychological construct. All of these share similar diagnostic criteria, but the most significant difference is the use of these terms.

[twisterlemonade]

As I see it, psychopathy and sociopathy are pretty much the same thing. There's a bunch of differences people make up for these two, but it's all so confusing and inconsistent. I think the minor difference between the terms is that "sociopathic" means an absence of conscience and extreme flexibility in morals, and "psychopathic" means a predatory nature, which includes lack of remorse and empathy, manipulativeness, constant violation of others' rights, possibly sadism etc.

[twisterlemonade]

Antisocial personality disorder is separate from these though; it tells more of how a person behaves and how the person feels about that behavior. Not all psychopaths are criminals, after all. They are just very, very mean and unremorseful people. But all in all, each of these terms are very similar in practice, it's just how and in what kind of context they are used that makes the difference.

[SephirothRyu]

Yes. If they merely happen to enjoy things that don't get them into trouble with the law, they will likely not have problems. This is probably pretty rare though.

[barcode9588]

It depends how you define those. If you define pain and agony as physiological causation (ie. you step on a nail = Ouch!), then of course Psychopaths feel pain just like everybody else. Psychopathy primarily is a deficiency in empathy - something that is, arguably, critical to the development of other higher emotions such as guilt and shame.

[tmalik78]

if you will study in more detail how psychopath think and why do they think like this. then i can assure you that you can turn into a next psychopath. I believe that its not a personality disorder but in fact its a learn t behavior and they adop them selves to this behavior they believe that doing so they can become alpha male and turn things to their advantage as they then clearly understand worldy wisdom.

[TheNachtjager]

I disagree completely. Being a psychopath or having anti social personality disorder is a mental illness. Of course people can chose to be evil and block their good side, but that doesn't make them a psychopath. It's like saying if someone tried hard enough they can give themselves tourettes syndrome or obsessive-compulsive disorder. I could decide to let go and swear all day long, but that doesn't mean I have tourettes syndrome. People who are true psychopaths are born that way.

[crimsonembers1]

Totally agree with you.

[TheNachtjager]

thanks :)

[barcode9588]

That's a valid point, and leading research is beginning to suggest more and more that Psychopathy has a heavy genetic component, although early environment (particularly before 3-5 years of age) is critical.

[marker853]

charles manson is a psychopath

[dangerbird89]

ok so 1/5 people in prison score high on this and that means that 4/5 who dont go to prison. Even if that was a corellation, corellation doesnt = causation.

[emulator900]

This is interesting.

This clip looks like it's part of a larger video. Anyone know the name of that video?

[eydos]

These categories are all about social values, they have nothing inherently biological in them. Its a societal control-structure to medicalise unwanted behaviors, thoughts or disaprooved of feelings, this is how society functions its self-sustaining stability. Therefore searching values and cultural norms in the physical brain is meaningless. Psychopathology is yet another name in the long list of pseudo-naive denominations on which clinical psychology still clings.

[Enialedam]

Thanks for posting these videos! They're super for studying for my abnormal class!

[drewd1987]

If you want a good book look for the DSM III axis II By Theodore Millon. It's a little old but has very in depth psychoanalysis of each major PD that you can't find in the DSM-IV-TR.

[PheenixTears420]

Psychopaths and sociopaths are completely able to be successful and live normal lives. A sociopaths lack of conscience could even be beneficial, a businessman or lawyer without a conscience could do very well for themselves.

[drewd1987]

Yes, lawyers, judges, etc that do not (and only a small percent of sociopaths come into conflict with the law) get into real trouble fall into the adaptive-agressive pattern.

[Torihope]

Unfortunately, you don't seem to take into consideration the number of people who these types destroy. Since they are often able to 'hide who they are' until it's too late for the potential 'prey', I guess it's interesting how you measure 'success'. Sad.

[PheenixTears420]

Sociopaths could do well for themselves, not for anyone else. How I personally measure success is irrelevant. Success is defined by the culture you live in. Since rich people are favored in most in the world, it is only natural for a person to want to be rich. But natural impulses aren't always moral ones.

[Zhawq]

@PheenixTears420 ... WELL SAID!...

[adamjavier2]

DNA can tract on Psychopaths, narcicist, inteligence,....etc. In the end, all rubish will go to the bin.

[mspen1018]

Dr. Hare explores psychpopathy at a level that defies the stereotype of the serial killer, in fact I took a victimology class and a lot of serial killers aren't psychopaths, BTK- narcissist, Eileen Wuornos- Borderline PD. I like his books and Martha Stout is another good researcher on psychopathy.

[Charlierosea]

Exactly, pschopaths are running the fucking jail

[iraqidolphin]

Sorry this is stupid. Everyone know what a psychopath is like.

[milkypigeon]

My mother is a psychopath. I discovered this after reading Hare's book.

I had a dream last night that I killed her.

I wish she'd kick the fucking bucket. She made my life hell.

[HappySmok3itis]

wow cry me a fuckin river

[PersephoneSwimming]

i'm sorry to hear that. it must have been awful. both of my parents had personality disorders but were not full-blown psychopaths, and they certainly made my life hell and it continues to be hell because of how they treated me it must have been very hard for you

[HillbillyJ]

Maybe APD doesn't make you a bad person off hand, but it makes you much more vulnerable to impulsive, violent and manipulative behavior than the average person. Combine this with something like childhood abuse, a cheating spouse or lover, and you may have a much more dangerous person than what these enviormental factors would produce normally due to their natural callousness and impulsiveness. Seems that way, at least.

[HillbillyJ]

It seems there is alot of different opinions here. Some say people with APD are just like other people with mental illness, others would probably be ready to burn them at the stake the minute they are diagnosed. I think APD in a milder stage doesn't have too mean a bad person. But then again you have to remember most women, who are less likely to violently offend than men, often have APD as a common factor. [continued in part 2]

[supaslim]

Just to toss it out there, having ASPD doesn't make you a bad person. It's like having OCD. You can't help it. Hating people for having disorders is like hating people for their race or age or sex.

[Lgilsig]

Not true, I'm afraid. Individuals with personality disorders are not insane. They have control over their behaviors and know right from wrong.

[SchizoKnight12]

forget that personality disorders are mental illnesses as classified in the dsm iv. would you really want to be around a narcissist, with all their bragging and exploitative behavior. take this to another level by adding antisocial tendencies and taking away what's left of their conscience. would you want to be their friend then? or hire them? from what i understand, the ones with good people skills have no problem taking care of themselves since they lie and deceive easily to meet their needs.

[supaslim]

I'm not saying you have to like them, I'm just saying that you shouldn't hate somebody because they have a disorder you relate to murder and rape and stuff. There ARE milder forms of the disorder.

[Lgilsig]

Its not a matter of hating anyone, its a matter of understanding what an individual is, and is not, capable of. A "mild" Anti-Social (known as "featurs of Anti-Social Pesonality Disorder), may do just fine in the right setting. However, I don't think they would make good spouses, child care workers, or clergy...

[supaslim]

I never said they were insane. And that's sort of what APD is about, not comprehending right and wrong, because they don't feel remorse. Even then, not all people with the disorder are raging murderers, despite the popular belief.

[SchizoKnight12]

but would you make friends with a backstabbing scam artist who fleeces widows and orphans for a living? yes, hate is a strong word. but i guarantee you wouldn't want a sociopath to be your boss, coworker, girlfriend, wife, relative, etc. no matter how mild their disorder is. this is a disorder of character. in their case, they have no morals. i'm sure you don't want to be lied to, used, and have your bank account emptied, do you?

[Lgilsig]

I'm sorry, but I'm in the field of Mental Health and APD is not about not knowing right from wrong; thats an Axis I disorder. Anti-Socials understand right from wrong, but choose wrong because they supress feelings of empathy. Remember, all Axis II disorders are learned behaviors...

[FrighterZ]

Just so people don't get confused if they read comments and try to learn, an Axis 1 disorder is not about not knowing right or wrong, and an Axis 2 disorder is not a learned behavior.

[Lgilsig]

FrighterZ, Excuse me? You got the Axis I part, part right. Your comments about Axis II was completely off. All personality disorders are learned behaviors, just as personality is a learned behavior.

[SouppyKwee]

Calm down.

I think they were talking about a broader range on the subject and how it can develop to that point.

[Lgilsig]

Thanks for trying to keep me calm about a response I left a month ago, and had forgotten about. Without your help I don't know how distraught I'd be right now, had I remembered any part of this discussion...

[SouppyKwee]

but obviously you felt the need to reply back lawl

[Mardasee]

I'm back! And what I found is what I suspected to happen. Sociopaths where here. They rated my post reply with a -6. Sneaky Socio, come on admit it. This is why I will never eat at a diner where a Socio cooks, their sneaky, they do disgusting things with food, it's their man nature

[Lgilsig]

How do you know if someone is a Anti-Social cook? Do they beat the eggs very hard, or whip the cream without mercy? Do they identify to much with deviled eggs, or refuse to serve angel food cake?

[Mardasee]

Anti-Social? anti-social is just one of the many symptoms of Sociopathy.

Many sociopaths possess a "get even" symptom. When they were kids they manifested this disorder during a stressful time in their lives, having to be confronted with a bully for example. Other than the sociopath mob leg breaker who will perform his act in public, most sociopaths are sneaky instead. They will urinate in donut batter, place boogers in sub sandwiches. In their minds this is how they will get even.

[Georgie2500]

sage

[Mardasee]

Sociopaths "who can go psychopath" are the worst form of human beings on the planet. If I had my way I would round them up (the ones who we can find, they are sneaky), place them in a desert, and drop a nuclear bomb on them.

[SchizoKnight12]

good luck with that. some are successful enough to become rich businessmen, mobsters, politicians, and cops. they have many people who enable them to remain in power. you have probably met a sociopath in real life but just didn't know it because they look normal...but aren't

[Mardasee]

True.

These sociopath businessmen, mobsters, politicians and cops who become successful are missing scruples though. A businessman, remember Enron? A mobster, no need to explain. A politician, we know what they are like. A cop, a badge can be used for bad things of course.

Look at what the auto union workers reps had done. They extorted to the degree that the auto industry had to flee to mexico. Caterpillar engine was not long ago "made in the USA" but not any more.

[ronimacarroni]

Psychopaths can't be successful because they get bored easily, they don't plan ahead, they eventually piss somebody off and want instant gratification

[Zestfuly]

Doesn't everyone?

[drewd1987]

Can't be successful? Psychopaths have ruled the world for the past 2000 years.. lawyers, judges, dictators, pharoh's, presidents, police officers..

They seek power.

[ronimacarroni]

I'm no expert but most of the symptoms that people with APD have make it seem unlikely that they could become successful.

-Inability to tolerate boredom

-Inability to make or keep friends

-difficulty with authority figures

-failure to plan ahead

-Tendency to violate the right or boundaries of others

Are some of the few in the long list of traits these individuals lack that could make it difficult for them to become successful.

Narcissism on the other hand seems more plausible to me at least.

[drewd1987]

Read up on it. The agressive pattern isn't what it's portrayted as in the movies. Most agressive personalities find a niche for themselves in a well paid profession.

[Charlierosea]

Literally they get away with murder! same with personalities which out like them found in cluster B.

[N00l3ER7]

charlie, they dont usualy get away with murder, they kill without planning, and they prefer not to kill as they dont like lengthy prison sentences...

[drewd1987]

That isn't exactly true. Everyone is different and not all sociopaths and psychopaths are the same. This might sound silly but the Soprano's actually portrays what a real sociopath is like as Tony Soprano. On the other hand, Psychopaths are more like the Iceman, search for him on this site. It's not like in the horror flicks at all, many of these people are relatively functional and just because they do not know "right or wrong" doesn't mean they want to spend life behind bars.

[monster2monster]

Psychopath is no longer used in the sense you are using it btw. Because you can have psychosis and not be antisocial or sociopathic. For example sever depression, bipolar disorders, anxiety disorders, can all cause psychosis. Psychosis is the feeling of being out of reality.

[Mardasee]

I understand socio behavior very well, monster2monster. I once lived in a environment where I was confronted by socio behavior on a daily basis. I know how they tick.

Depression, bipolar, anxiety, are though contribute factors for socio manifestation. Socio manifestation begins at around age 9 and can last up until age 15.

Sociopaths, when something psyches them they go Psychopath.

[90Muffins]

Kind of like hitler?

[animefanNTV]

Great video on the original context about this disorder. It gave so much information. It was a great part of his work. One of the best.

[Creamtangerine]

Dr. Hare is BRILLIANT. I have learned SO MUCH from him! His book was simply amazing as are all his articles and research papers. If you are interested in this topic DO seek out his work!

[tvforme420]

thats right , fuckin heads will be flying