@TheSaltysack - Already done that. Russian satellites use it for station keeping. Americans will follow soon if not already. However, since no more shuttle program I don't know how we will get them into orbit. Definitively NOT anti-gravity. AG is something all together different. Google: Dr. Ning Li and Dr. Eugene Podkletnov for REAL AG systems in use today by BaE Systems and US Army Redstone Lab. NASA tried it and failed.
Does the wire get hot? Also is it 100% proven that ion wind is not the primary force? If the test in oil proved this, then what medium does this force require? It works in our atmosphere. I'd like to see another vacuum test other than "mythbusters". Not saying they falsified anything, just would like to see better electrical connections, a better demonstration.
@Cloudy2Clear - I dunno you'd have to contact BEAMSHIPCAPTAIN as he sells these in Pennsylvania (USA). I'd think NO... no heat as there is really no current to speak of. It's just high voltage. It is a stream of electrons pushing air molecules so yes ION WIND sounds like the process here. It will not work in a vacuum as the electrons need to push against something. So it wouldn't work in outer space. Myhthbusters is not a valid entity to me. What's their creds? None?
@Spookysr - Yes, it's a big capacitor w/ small separation of anode/cathode. My main question pertains to the strength of the ion wind. Could you direct me to a legit site confirming or denying the ability of ion wind to produce this effect. Grams of lift vs weight/area. Perhaps with a few good references, this critical answer will make sense to me. In the oil test, couldn't oil molecules serve as the medium creating oily ion movement? I'm not dense, just trying to put the pieces together.
@Cloudy2Clear - If that's true then the foil is one electrode and earth is the other. The dielectric would be air. I don't think capacitors have anode or cathodes.That's rectifiers or diodes. Yes oil could be a dielectric too but it would impede the craft's movement. Ions are simply charged particles (atoms). It involves the valence electrons moving from one orbit (hole) to another. In the interim it collides with air molecules (and their charges) creating lift. It wont work in a vacuum.
@Jeocellguy - That's assuming the wishful thinker jumps on the academia-bandwagon and accept that time is more than a human concept and is not intractable. To me time is something that does not exist and is only a sentient realization of the passing of events. Anti-Gravity is something "new" discovered by a Russian scientist from Finland who works at BAE Systems. Also a Korean female scientist at NASA/US ARMY Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville Alabama (USA). It's not "simple" at all.
@Spookysr part 2: seen in jumbo jets with time dilation's. In fact if it where not for anti gravity we would not have an atmosphere period, and if you are interested in this subject google planet near death, i also suspected orbits where maintained via a repulsion and an attraction before their article.
@Jeocellguy - I don't see the relationship to TIME in your examples... Time is not an entity or a thing like space is. You can manipulate space but not time as it doesn't really exist like space does. Its a matter of semantics (i.e. use of English language) I guess. Ppl tend to believe everything mainstream academia says without checking the basic "IS IT LOGICAL" test. Same applies to every theory that originated with them. Mostly just illogical atheist rhetoric to me.
@Spookysr No, time and gravity are directly related, you disrupt gravity you disrupt time. And yes i have worked with real anti gravity, because you have not researched it it does not mean you are right, i have worked with ormes. gravity is directly related to electrons. if it where not for this we would not have an atmosphere period. this is why jumbo jets have reported time dilation's.You want to see something cool google planet near death or is it.
@Jeocellguy - O.R.M.E.S.? Jeez Louise! I shudda' known! You've prolly not even researched David Hudson's patents and extensive research on this. You're just one of those pseudoscience-types who dabbles in electrolysis and calls it hydrogen fuel cell technology. You need to research what f.c.t. REALLY is. Also try a certificate or audit course at local community college on General Physics. Dave is into pseudoscience too but he is so rich it doesn't matter. He has plenty of legit help!
@Spookysr Why don't you do some real science like i do and you can experiment with these ORMES yourself like i have you moron. WTF is wrong with you idiots? if it isn't in text books it isn't real? Do you honestly think we will still be exactly where we are 200 years from now after how far we have come in the last 200 years? You guys are complete morons, what a waist of time you guys are, pathetic.
@Jeocellguy - I did some research on you and your project. They all smell of con-artistry. Can can any educated person be so daft about science? All you want is money. You don't want truth. ORMES has nothing to do with your project. Your stuff is just electrolysis. It doesn't produce white gold. That is just white calcium. It doesn't produce enuf' Hydrogen to run a car. That's just stupid. And a unmodified combustion engine runs on a liquid (gasoline) not a gas (hydrogen). Who's the moron?
@Spookysr part 1: Sorry but it is simple to me, because i have worked with anti gravity, i have a basic understanding of how and what it is, time and gravity are directly related so it is a simple test to see if these ion lifters have an anti gravity property, i suspect it should as my work shows that electrons are directly related to gravity, so the disruption as well as the removal give us an anti gravity feature,
@Jeocellguy - Sorry unless you've worked with Dr. Ning Li or Dr. Eugene Podkletnov you haven't worked on TRUE Anti-Gravity projects. Their projects involve huge spinning ceramic disks (at 500+ rpm) cooled by liquid Helium. Anything above it LOOSES gravity! The explanation is FAR from SIMPLE! NASA still hasn't been able to explain it and they don't want to spin anything at 500 rpm that is as big as a gymnasium.
The ionized air attracts the foil to it but as the foil approaches it the wire moves aswell making the area of air being ionized move up along with the foil aswell. A similar effect can be done with a magnet. If you place a DC arc through the air over a pole on a magnet the air the arc moves through will have a magnetic field around it just as a wire would causing the magnet to push it away in one direction.
@MrAwsome514 - I think you are describing how to magnetize a copper wire with an electromagnet source. Of course if you do that the it will cause the wire to become slightly magnetically bipolar. It the permanent magnet below is of the same pole facing the similar pole of the newly magnetized wire then of course it will repel it. Don't sure what you are trying to describe.
We experience a slightly similar reaction with solar wind and Earth magnetosphere causing Auroral displays at both poles.
@Spookysr You are close but imagine if instead of a wire you used the air itself as your conductor. At some where between 30,000-40,000 volts the electrical current can cross a short air gap over a magnet. The air is not fixed in it's position and thus can be moved unlike the wire.
Well this is not antigravity any way so it does not matter. Though it is true that the thrust from the air flow generated is indeed too small to lift the device the airflow is actually irrelevant. It is not the airflow that causes it to lift. Well then what is is then you ask? That is surprizingly simple. You forget that not only is the ionized air attracted to the foil but the foil is also attracted to the ionized air which loses it's ionization as the wire moves up. (see next comment)
@MrAwsome514 - Thank you for your detailed explanation. However, it's obvious this is not anti-gravity but simple electrostatic discharge. A high voltage assembly, off-screen, is pushing charged particles (electrons) or ions down the wire and out through the aluminum foil. As you know from Newton's Law of Motion to every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction. The ions propel the foil ship upward due to this action. It's simply "ion wind".
@Spookysr Yes thank you for restating the same point I have been getting at this entire time... I was stating that the attraction between the ionized air and the foil are not a one way pull and that the aluminum foil was also pulled up to the ionized air. That is the equal and opposite reaction here which if you had payed any attention you would have knowen that is what I have been talking about this entire time.
@Spookysr Ion wind as a force is insufficient by over three orders of magnitude to loft even a five gram model, and models hunderds of grams have been lofted. Even a mouse has been lofted ("Orville"", on JLNlabs website). Ion wind has an upper limit to force also, but there is NO LIMIT to the Biefeld Brown effect! Read the data and the literature. THis works also under oil, which of course does not ionize. The force instead is due to high energy electrostatics, and electrohydrodynamics.
@MrAwsome514 The ONLY reason this works is by Coulombs forces. Which explains why its more efficient in vacuum, and why it still works at all in vacuum.
The inverntor called it ELECTROGRAVITICS, recognizing the three forces of electricity, magnetism and gravity are all reciprocal and interchangable. THe unifying field is the electric field.
I would think that there is gravity in outer space, since our planet is kept in orbit by the Suns gravity, and that our solar system is perhaps in orbit around a black hole at the center of our galaxy.
@kevininarp - Technically that would not be "outer" space. Yes there is Solar gravity present as well as lunar gravity. However, the farther you leave our solar system into "outer" space you only encounter very weak legacy gravity if anything at all. Therefore IMO anti-gravity propulsion would be useless in deep space between stars. Black Holes are not common nor useful for propulsion yet. Dark Space is common but it exhibits "reverse" gravity (push away gravity).
@kevininarp - Also the space between Mars and Jupiter where the "asteroid belt" is exhibits very little legacy gravity. However, there is enough legacy gravity from Jupiter to at least cause gravitational perturbation on the belt closest to Jupiter. However, the only dwarf planet, Ceres, within the belt has it's own gravity.
I think the only speed of light travel we can accomplish right now is Radio Waves. We've already sent a radio signal from the radio telescope in the Ukraine to the big exoplanet in Gliese system (not the new Goldilocks planet - Gliese 581c). It won't get there until 2021. We need to send another to the Sagittarius system (1977 Wow! signal origin) and maybe to the theoretical one only 6ly away in the Ophiuchus system. I just know there's one there despite what they say about Peter Van de Kamp.
The only theoretical FTL is possibly Pulsar radio waves (i.e. Crab Pulsar). We need to really investigate this phenomena better. Maybe we can send an FTL radio waves?
@Spookysr If we discover anything that goes FTL, the whole Relativity model will need to be revised. If you have the time, you should read some of Paul Marmet's papers. He had some counter-establishment ideas about physics. Towards his last years he wrote a book trying to question quantum theory. This is a man who taught quantum physics for decades. Once he took a non-establishment stance, they started to censure him. He has a paper about relativistic mass that's interesting.
How did you engineer the solar photonic detonation wave propulsor lift contractor? I've been trying to do that my entire life and I just cant get the fractions right in my equations.
@Apocol0id - Huh? I did wha...? Solar what what now? What the heck are you talking about? I've never seen those particular words chained together in that fashion. This is BeamshipCaptain's toy not mine. It uses electrostaic energy or HV lifter - not lasers or solar. Engineer? Oh really where? What are your creds?
@Apocol0id - With all of the "junk scientists" that visit here it's hard to know. Next time use this /sarcasm or /joke so ppl will know your not being straight forward.
I think the scene at Qatar SOCCENT airbase with the Sikorsky MH-53 Pave Low chopper (Scorponok) was simply awesome; "Pilot: power down your craft and your crew step out of or we will kill you..." and how about "Bring the rain!" (AC-130 Spooky w/Vulcan?)
Awesome scene: /watch?v=QJxrVT49XHY (Start at 00: 24 :00) - The MH-53 Pave Low was actually Decepticon: Blackout. He was piggy-backing Decepticon: Scorponok who it took a 105-mm howitzer M102 cannon (not the M61 Vulcan) to just partially damage him.
@cavudog - Ican't find it on my editor so I must have used it when using MS Movie Maker. I'm thinking it's from a movie about the holy crusades into Jerusalem. But I can't remember the name of the movie. The music in that movie was quite awesome. I use another music piece from it in my Ask an Alien video too. I like the oboes...
@cavudog - Kingdom Of Heaven (2005) music by Henry Gregson-Williams and Hans Zimmer. Lots of beautiful music from that movie. Checkout Hans-Zimmer-com.
@Nomoreidsleft - In my state in N.E. USA we have been having a UFO flap summer 2010 w/cigar & triangle shaped craft. Some just orange lights (laser projections?). I know what triangles are but the cigars are a mystery. That dates back to the 19th century even before the NAZI Haneubu saucers. Looks like somebody is resurrecting them again. We have several mil-ind-complex aircraft mfgs here and 2 major USAF bases just north of here in another state. That accounts for the triangles & lights...
@Spookysr Too bad there's so much fake video on YouTube otherwise it could be a great place to post UFO videos.If I was an alien, Nebraska wouldn't be the best place to fly over, given it's so flat and you can see for miles. It would be a ideal area to crash land though. Most likely the cigar shapes are some kind of prototype airship. I don't see aliens needing to build aerodynamic spacecraft given that they fly in the vacuum of space. Unless the ships were not meant for space travel.
@Nomoreidsleft - Yes I agree. A universal 1st contact protocol MOST entities would practice (except Columbus) is to "call first"! Subsequently any UFO landings, let say at Washington DC or NYC, would not be seen as a hostile 1st strike. I think all we have seen so far are man-made UFO's and/or the metaphysical occult world which is trying so hard to prove they don't really exist (play on words?).
Anti-Gravity propulsion does not work unless there is GRAVITY to oppose. Think about it.
@Spookysr Well, you assume that any extraterrestrials visiting earth are part of some organization. This is a construct of science fiction, and predominately Star Trek. Interstellar travel may be so easy for them that it would be like a weekend safari. They may not care about any first contact, and are just tourists. The only reason they have contact with us at all is in case they crash. Antigravity is overrated it's only important on earth. In space it's point and go.
@Nomoreidsleft - Well I personally don't believe in EBE (extraterrestrial BIOLOGICAL entities) visiting Earth at all. I do believe it is an occult global organization that has a "winged serpent" emblem on uniforms, etc. SME's (subj matter experts) say that's the Illuminati but I'm skeptical about that. I believe the Sci-Fi of Orsen Welles created this modern myth in 1938 and the CIA carried it to the next level in 1947 to cover-ip Operation Paperclip to today.
@Nomoreidsleft - Any alien culture would have more sense then to be caviler tourists or careless visitors knowing we have WMD's that some of us have never heard of. Since 1947 the UFO's should have prompted an act of war but it didn't. Why? B/c they are US! It would be buddy-spikes or friendly fire if we reacted militarily.
Interstellar travel IMO is not possible due to fuel limitations. Even nuclear is not really limitless when U understand how it really works. Navy subs are high maintenance.
@Spookysr It's hard to say what aliens will do. They don't have the same psychology. As far as WMD, they are relatively recent. ICBMs are arrows shot into the air that fall back down. Even the most advanced missles would not track a supposed UFO. Before WWII, we didn't have radar. Fuel limitations of interstellar travel is based on increases in relativistic mass for charged bodies due to EM field interactions.(i.e particle accelerators) I believe this does not exist for neutral bodies.
@Nomoreidsleft - IMO all life in the niverse follows the same psychology just like how Hydrogen is also. Since I am a Judeo-Christian I belive that sentient humanoid life would be ALSO creted in God's image too. But despite that as Kevin Spacey (my hero) said "All life throughout the Universe knows right fom wrong..." Visiting w/o calling first is TOTALLY wrong! Try going to your boss's house unnanounced tommorow!
There are many top-secret SDI weapons other than missle technology.
@Spookysr You may be right if the aliens considered us as sentient. Tell that to monkeys and apes. Their image of God may be different from ours. Even on this planet, there are differing opinions, and we are all human. There's been a lot of technological advance since WWII, this in itself seems strange.
@Nomoreidsleft - "Tell that to monkeys and apes. Their image of God may be different from ours."
Their image of God? Monkeys or aliens? LOL
I think it is universal as all humans admit their image of God(s) is metaphysical (higher lifeform(s)) and extraterrestrial (above the earth). Some religions don't have a God such as Buddhists and Animists. Atheist Evolutionists are also philosophically a religion as it is closely held belief system based on faith (albeit science).
@Spookysr Oops, I was referring to the aliens, ut I'm sure the monkeys have their own god like entity too. My point was that we consider monkeys and apes to be non-sentient, But science is starting to discover otherwise. The aliens may be so advanced that they may think of us like we think of cockroaches. So, we may not be able to imagine how the alien thought process works.
@Nomoreidsleft - Well I think the monkey scientists are operating in "wishful-thinking" mode again. I do not believe Bonobos are sentient, have a deity, nor do they exhibit homosexual behavior as they were trying to "con" Oprah to believe yesterday. IMO all of this new-age "ape" crap is to help bolster a already ethically/morally criminal theory of Godless evolution invented by a 19th century disgruntled quasi-clergyman who blamed God for his daughter's death from Scarlett fever (i.e. Darwin).
@Spookysr Everything is sentient to some degree. The limitations are in the brain hardware of all animals and insects that prevent them from expressing sentience. As for Bonobos, they basically will bone anything that moves. Apes and monkeys, are not configured like us. Their memory is limited, hormone levels are all different, and don't have the hardware in the brain for self control. Evolution is a mechanism for species variation. I don't believe random molecules resulted in life.
@Nomoreidsleft - Technological advance since WW1 (actually 1914) seems pretty much philosophically related to misanthropic metaphysical activities assumed to be Biblically prophetic. Therefore it is allegedly 'acquired knowledge' rather than natural evolution of the human thought. How can you explain the big jump to atomic energy based on one man's "thoughts popping in his head" (per his biography) when he was a teenager around WW1? Yes that's Albert I'm referring to.
@Nomoreidsleft - If E=MC² then M=E/C² therefore the (E)nergy used to achieve C (speed of light) increases (M)ass exponentially. Therefore light travel would be impossible for anything with mass (us, them, and our ships). Also the more energy you put in the more you use up or is converted to heat. There must be diminishing returns. A neutral body sounds problematic to me. Are metaphysical (higher lifeforms) made up of neutral bodies? Are they pure energy? I really dunno...
@Spookysr The equation is uses the Lorentz factor, relating velocity to speed of light. Lorentz based it on previous work by people like Searle. M in this case is TOTAL MASS. This includes rest mass and relativistic mass. The E in this equation goes to infinity if you assume that relativistic mass increases with speed to infinity. Again assumes the Lorentz factor. For a neutral body the EM interactions causing relativistic mass increase do not exist. Most normal bodies are neutral.
@Spookysr The dogma nowadays is that relativistic mass increases to infinity, but this probably only applies to charged particles. The whole idea was originated by G. F. C. Searle (1897), "On the Steady Motion of an Electrified Ellipsoid".The real key to interstellar travel is to find a form of propulsion that does not involve momentum exchange. (i.e. not rockets, jet engines or even ionic drives) In space you only need energy to accelerate to a constant speed, and change direction.
@Nomoreidsleft - George Frederick Searle believed in God and went proselytizing too. But he also believed in Einstein's "Special Relativity" so he would agree that increasing mass would prevent C or FTL travel. Interstellar travel needs at least close to C to be practical to get here from another star system (even Alpha Proxima or Barnard's Star).
Here's a clue: what already does demonstrated interstellar travel for thousands of years? Let's copy their propulsion method. Comets!
@Spookysr I'm not saying that Special Relativity is wrong. I'm just saying it may not be complete. The only thing that says we cannot travel FTL is the concept of relativistic mass. So the way to travel FTL is to eliminate relativistic mass effect. It was almost the same argument people used for why we couldn't exceed the sound barrier. It ended up being an engineering problem once it was fully understood. Comets use gravity, and we have not mastered that yet.
@Nomoreidsleft - There's no way to eliminate mass IMO. You can not surround it with a space-warp field as that is just junk science. FYI The B-2 bomber does not use a "special" electrostatic field to mitigate the effects of faster than sound travel. That's just junk science too. I think comets use more than gravity as their is the coma tail. Doesn't that propel it somehow too? NASA has perfected the "slingshot" gravity effect around our moon, Jupiter, etc. to increase probe speed.
@Spookysr The comet tail is debris being blasted off the Comet by the solar winds. Notice there are two tails, an Ice tail that trails behind the comet's orbit (hence, it is falling at high velocity around the star in question), and there is the ion gas tail, which consists of the vapors that are so easily removed, getting blown off the comet. Both reflect light at high wavelengths, which means they only look like propulsion trails - they are the byproducts of friction on the ice ball's surface.
@Dlord007 - I guess I should have been more specific. I meant the theoretical interstellar comets (i.e. possibly 96P/Machholz?). They theoretically don't use star gravity like Oort Cloud comets. We need to figure out what propels them (if they exist at all).
@Spookysr Rest mass cannot be negated, but that's not preventing FTL. It's the so called relativistic mass that's preventing FTL. Relativistic mass is not real mass, it's the increase in inertia(opposition to motion) resulting from moving a charged particle and is an effect of EM interaction. If there is no EM interaction, there is no increase in relativistic mass. I need to write a paper on this.
@Spookysr Scientists say the comet tail is caused by solar wind burning off ice. I wonder how much ice these comets have. They must be burning off for thousands of years. If it is solar wind, then there's no propulsion there, but their orbits would change as their mass decrease. Can they measure the change? Gravity slingshots take gravitational energy from massive bodies. No massive bodies between stars, so far as we know so far.
@Nomoreidsleft - Well 'Voyager I' I belief is attempting interstellar travel right now. It used slingshot method to get there. But I'm afraid it is just in the black void right now. I would think that black holes and Dark Energy may exhibit enough gravity (or anti-gravity) for slingshot method.
@Spookysr Sure, I've seen in theory. Gravity sailing basically. Good for probes, not practical for a human life span. We'll have to chart the currents first. We may find there is an equivalent for the trade winds that ancient sailors used.
@Nomoreidsleft - I guess I should have been more specific. I meant the theoretical interstellar comets (i.e. possibly 96P/Machholz?). They theoretically don't use star gravity like Oort Cloud comets. We need to figure out what propels them (if they exist).
@Nomoreidsleft - Well yes it already happened in Ashland Nebraska. Look up ex-Police Chief Herbert Schirmer. Incident: December 3, 1967. 2:30a. Remember Herb is ex-Navy and his dad was USAF. What happened is being pawned off (by Condon Report - translation: CIA) as legitimate potential 1st contact with a rational human being (i.e. Herb). Perfect scenario for a "black op".
"Are you the watchman over this place?", the being asked, while spraying gaseous propofol (ICI 35868) all around him...
@Nomoreidsleft - Zepplin AG (as known today) was arguably the prototype manufacture of the top-secret "cigars" back in late 1800's and is still in operation today. Now they are openly pushing the new Zeppelin NT. Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin was in USA in 1874 and was inspired by our Civil War balloons. You'd be surprised how much the UFO dots seem to connect back to the Germans as Nick Cook is proving. I think Sikorsky Aircraft is working on something not unlike their documented UFO Cypher.
@Spookysr Likely interstellar ships will look anything like what we make. (i.e. no need for aerodynamics, and not based on thrust) In space there is nothing to thrust, you could not carry enough propellant to make such a journey. Even the most advance ion drive we have now requires a propellant. It's still based on momentum exchange. Even particle accelerators are based on momentum exchange. True interstellar ships would most likely not be able to fly in earth's atmosphere.
@Nomoreidsleft - You are 100% right on the money! Try explaining this to the brain dead morons with their junk science. They just don't get it. No method we have including the Vasimir Rocket will get you from here to there due to need for limitless fuel. Even aliens would know this. We can't be seen from deep space so why launch a pointless mission to visit us. Jupiter/Neptune size exoplanets are barely "visible" to us. Our best bet is the WOW! signal of 1977. We need to expand on that!
@Spookysr I don't think you can measure a power source in just volts can you?
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@wuhle - Technically you shouldn't. You should always measure voltage & current in Amps. You can use Ohms Law to find Power in Watts. However, most HV assemblies are low current but high voltage. That's so it's not lethal. IMO hard metal man-made UFO's use LETHAL amts for propulsion. Of course interior is filled w/ Helium to achieve neutral buoyancy. Other fast movers prolly laser projections.
@wuhlei - No! A toy that emitted electrostatic fields for propulsion would be banned by safety orgs like UL Labs. The toys you refer to are propelled by plastic propellers with a low-powered PM - DC motor and rechargeable ion-lithium battery. The hull is made from Styrofoam. Check out Airhogs dot com.
What voltages are talking about here. In Britain its a 250volt house supply. Would that be enough for me to make one of these things. Or would i need a transformer.
What voltages are talking about here. In Britain its a 250volt house supply. Would that be enough for me to make one of these things. Or would i need a transformer.
@G777GUN - Its actually around 20kV that's 20,000 volts. You would need a automobile HV unit or a HV assy from an old Television. The UK system 220V not 250V. In USA its 110V but fluctuates up to 120V. Yes you would need a 10:1 step-up transformer but the shock could injure you as it would supply plenty of current. A HV assy does not have enough current to kill you only shock the bejesus outta' ya. Don't play with this. Contact BeamshipCaptain.
You think you could build a bigger craft and supply it with enough power to life the craft and people? Or would it be to heavy cause seems like you would need alot of power on the craft to lift the weight of people and the craft. Very interesting though good video.
@MrLostkause - Ask the guy who builds and sells them. He is here and his screen-name is BeamshipCaptain.
I personally think the power required would fry the passengers. But if some sort of lift gas was used to mitigate the weight of the cargo it might work. I believe that's how the NAZIs did it in WW2 with their saucers. Google: Nick Cook and hunt for zero point for more info...
@Spookysr The passengers would not fry, if they all wore wire mesh suits. The big question is, is this more efficient than conventional lift systems? If it wasn't for Hindenburg causing mass panic, we'd be flying around in airships now. With modern technology, blimps and airships would be so much more efficient. The oil companies would really hate that. Imagine crossing the Atlantic with a small fraction of the fuel airplanes used.
@Nomoreidsleft - I think a "chain mail" suit (aka wire mesh) might make you MORE suited to electrocution than before. You wouldn't want a conductor you'd want an insulator like rubber as there is no way to ground the passengers once aloft. Also that would add to payload weight. However, if you mitigate the craft's overall weight w/LTA gas U wouldn't need much electrostatic field propulsion voltage 2 get it 2 move. Yes Zeppelin NT is trying to push USA blimp travel again via Airship Ventures Inc.
@Spookysr Hell no! You don't want to ground the mesh suit. You'd fry! If ungrounded, the mesh suit would act like a Gaussian pill box. If you remember, electric fields are excluded from inside of the pill box. The other way is if you slowly raise the voltage while the passengers are in contact. Once the passengers are at the same level, there is no potential difference, and no current flow. They use this technique when working on high tension power lines.
@Nomoreidsleft - Well in secret world of spies there is a thing called a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility). The walls have wire mesh that is grounded and it reflects electromagnetic fields away and prevents EM from getting out. Also electronic technicians wear ground straps on wrists to drain off stray ESD voltage to ground. The passengers are never exposed to real voltage w/current. Its just an EM field w/ ESD(electrostatic discharge). Anyway UFO's don't have passengers IMO.
@Nomoreidsleft - I have a electrical riddle for you. During the 19th century they ran 3,000+ mile submarine telegraph armored cables across the ocean w/only ONE conductor! Supposedly the electrical return was Earth ground. I'm totally baffled. How could that possibly work? Evidently it worked quite well. They used large DC voltages though. Edison experimented with single conductor telephone cables w/earth ground up to 20 miles. 1800's railroad comm systems did too. HOW?
@Spookysr I guess this was a riddle in those days, but it shouldn't be now. You cable TV essentially is a single wire. The mesh is a EM shield. Do the experiment, you can use a single wire to transmit your cable signal, but it'll have all kinds of interference. Since the earth is an enormous source of electrons, and the water touches the earth, the water is acting like the shield from interference. Signal is just the positiveness and thus just the difference in electrons from the ground.
@Nomoreidsleft - Well Tesla, Bell, Edison, & Morse were confused as none were REAL scientists of the day. They were just glorified "salesmen" that borrowed other people's inventions as their own and patented them. Earth return is still today somewhat of a mystery as no one in academia is teaching how it really works. The ancient submarine telegraph cable was inefficient and they could have used the metal armor as a crude return but they didn't. They used Earth return and it somehow worked.
@Spookysr Copper wires are still inefficient, the transmitters and receivers have improved. As for Earth return, as I learned it the earth is the perfect ground because it a perfect source and sink of electrons. Therefore if you measured another voltage against it, you get your voltage above the ground/earth voltage. Electrons flow from -ve to +ve poll of a battery through the circuit. If you ground the -ve end, it pulls this down to absolute zero, giving the circuit unlimited electrons.
@Nomoreidsleft - OK but I thought "return" has to be "same" electrons u put in. Not virtual ones 3,000 nm away. I think that's mysterious part.
I guess once top secret US NAVY ELF submarine comm system uses huge buried radial ground conductors at Chicago IL, Cutler ME, and Perth AU. Some how the million watt signals can be picked up around the globe as Morse code or RTTY even underwater. The sub needs to trail out a 5 nm cable from the stern to act as a reception only antenna.
@Spookysr Contrary to most electronics books, which show current flowing from positive to negative pole, physicists know that real current(electrons) flow from negative pole to positive pole. The positive side is made deficient in electrons, so that it attracts electrons. The source of electrons can be from the negative side of a battery or the earth.. Since you can't distinguish electrons from each other, it doesn't matter where they come from.
@Nomoreidsleft - Yes that is the "hole theory". Now that makes better sense to me now. Electrons came from earth ground in Cape Cod Mass. filling valence holes along the 3,000 nm single conductor submarine telegraph cable returning to a virtual reservoir of electron holes in England Earth ground. The minuscule current must be not only due to DC resistance of the copper conductor but also the use of a virtual earth grounding system. They should have used 2 conductors made of silver.
@Nomoreidsleft - Believe it or not the new 3k nM submarine fiber optic cables also need help to cross the ocean. They use actively powered fiber repeaters like on island land bases, oil derricks, or sea buoys. Unless someone can invent a passive laser repeater that lays on the sea floor. I'm working on a new technology method of SMS communications that uses a complex virtual mesh/cloud network. No cell phones or satellites used.
@Nomoreidsleft - Well cable TV doesn't really count as the shield is used as return not Earth. Also it's using RF energy not DC voltage. You can use a single conductor to pick up a weak cable signal as it's nothing but a radio antenna in that case.
The ancient submarine telegraph used a glass fiber galvanometer to act as the receiver. The fiber would deflect with weak voltage arriving from thousands of miles of ocean cable. The voltage would be very high at the sender & arrive as mV - 1 wire!.
@Spookysr The terms DC and AC really only applies to power transmission. It describes the how the electric field vary when traversing the power lines. In data transmission the electric field is always fluctuating. The old lines used to use AM, which required a reference to ground(earth). The advantage to RF is that the cables themselves resonate at RF frequencies, resulting in less attenuation. Of course, it's irrelevant, since optical cables are used nowadays.
@Nomoreidsleft - Well half right. AC applies to RF too as RF is the EMF product of alternating current (AC) in a resonant circuit. Tesla invented AC for power transmission as it was more efficient than Edison's DC (direct current) method. HV DC is lethal as it gives you no chance to take your hand away. HV AC at 60 cps (Hertz) gives you at least 16.6 milliseconds every second to pull away safely. Also you can not propagate unless the voltage is AC which allows for EMF. (electromagnetic force).
@Spookysr Agreed. I'm not saying AC/DC doesn't exist, but we were talking about signal transmission. In this case, voltage variation is measured not not current. So, as long as you have a component on the line that can differentiate the voltage change from background noise, you detect the signal. So the current is irrelevant, as long as there is some flow in the circuit.
@Nomoreidsleft - In the ancient telegraph system that is quite true. Very small current. I'm still baffled how Granville's 1895 inductive mobile phone/telegraph rail comm system is not more well known. It's essentially the 1st cell phone (well kinda'). He also used a single conductor with earth ground. He used long conduit coils w/iron core along rail tracks. I can't see how any post-Civil War wire mfg could make miles & miles of that stuff. He sold it to GE and Edison. BIG MISTAKE!
@Nomoreidsleft - Optical fibers are technical still conveying AC as the laser beam is still technically in the EM spectrum. The way it's pumped is irrelevant. The product is EMF in the visible light spectrum of 400–700 nm.
Technically u can pulse DC & achieve EM waves around conductor 2. As it's acting like AC sine wave in a way. The early inductive railway mobile phone/telegraph in 1884 used this method. Invented by a Aborigine man living in Cincinnati Ohio (USA) named Granville Woods.
@Spookysr Optical cables transmit energy using photons, and therefore do not require the movement of electrons. Since energy is not transmitted by moving electrons, there is no current flow. AC/DC cannot be applied here since the terms describe the flow of current. Everything is about energy transmission, and what the media of transmission.
@Nomoreidsleft - True but the laser pump exciter does use moving electrons & conventional current. However, the lasing effect is moving photons going back and forth in a electron rich media (i.e. ruby crystal, etc.) with two mirrors or reflectors. One 100% reflector and the exit portal partially reflective. The product is extremely coherent single wavelength light. However, the COIL is another thing altogether. It uses oxygen and iodine to excite the laser. Sounds like a jet engine when fired.
Also check into the CO2 laser. Another fascinating gadget.
The Israelis have one called mobile THEL that uses deuterium fluoride - also developed by TRW (Now Northrup Grumman). Why? I know Israel supposedly shelved it recently - until this year. But if they aren't going to be shooting down Qassam & Katyusha missiles what were they going to use it for. It just staggers the imagination thinking of what they call a target rich environment.
@Nomoreidsleft - The COIL is used on our USAF ABL platform out of Colorado. Its an amazing technology with not much documented pathology as to how it was developed by TRW (translation: CIA). The Pentagon (late Lt Col Philip Corso of FTD desk under Lt. Gen. Arthur Trudeau) would have us believe it was the 1947 aliens that gave us LASERs and not Lamb, Retherford, Kastler, Brossel, Maiman, Schawlow, and Townes. I belive Corso but substitute the word "aliens" with NAZIs.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - All I know is that my God Yahweh told Noah after the flood we could add meat to our vegan diet. That's good enuf' for me.
I am anti-NWO ever hence Daddy Bush resurrected the phrase from Hitler his personal secret hero. Remember his dad Prescott helped Hitler in so many ways. And he was a US Senator from Connecticut! So I'm on your side on that...
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - When you said downloading to my sapphire tablet what did you mean? THAT's what I was talking about. I know it was a diff. posting. It was your words you have said it - not me.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - You need to go to Computer Sciences Lab with your Biology Professor and have them explain whole thing to you better. Yeah if you pull plug we and computer dies - duh! That was easy.
That does not explain your consciousness or your spirit of life or soul. Human's have a theoretical psychological heuristic method of learning. It changes dynamically w/new environ triggers.
AI computer is limited to its creator's imagination.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Yes I agree with you that thing would be a bad thing to put that where you said... Kinda' reminds me of what those Sodomites wanted to do to those 2 angels that appeared to Lot. Guess what happened next?
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - That was really quite unresponsive if not arguably insane What religion believes what you do? We have a saying here in Southern America "Sambo's version of the bible" Sambo was created by a Brit Helen Bannerman about a little Indian boy. But some racist Yanks changed it to a stupid lil' black slave boy in the 19th cent who got everything wrong.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - You could have said that without the rude words. Your biology professor is OBVIOUSLY an evolutionist! That's my point exactly. I don't trust anything they say as gospel. Read the sentence again it says "...it is THOUGHT..." So it is NOT fact.
Satan doesn't have to spy on you. You say things that are obviously copy & pasted from Wikipedia. I have no prob with that. I like ppl who do their research and can hang with me...
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No animals don't "think". Your right about factory-farmed food - its bad due to capitalist greed. Eating little meaty "no see um" things on my veggies and other food is not a prob for me only you. I call it protein. But it makes you a hypocrite...
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Bugs are welcome to live OUTSIDE my home far away from me. But once you cross that no-bug-land line - Its chemical warfare! OK I guess I could use a natural insecticides.
Your house must be full of houseflies and bugs? Hang a clear plastic bag of water near the portal where the flies get in. They are so fearful of the reflections they go the other way. Old Korean restaurant trick.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No not homophobic. I don't condemn the person only the ACT. It's all about INTENTION with God. What did you INTEND to do consciously knowing right from wrong.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No Aaron was his brother (Exodus 6: 20). Pharaoh Ramses (???) could have been ADOPTED-brother not biological like Aaron. Remember Moses' mom Jochebed pulled a fast one to save his life. And she got to raise him as a Hebrew/Egyptian hybrid anyway. God obviously protected the little basket from Nile crocs!
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - I didn't care for Freud's hypocritical viewpoint of homosexuality. I think he may have been one himself. (i.e anal retentiveness, cigars, etc.)
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Godly perfection to me means "without flaw". Jesus (Adam & Eve too) had a very aggressive auto immune system and could not die from anything toxic even without God's help. He was so perfect. His body was working at peek efficiency . He fasted and didn't get hungry until 40 days into it.
Paul wasn't perfect like the others but he was protected by Angels from neurotoxins. He was bitten by a highly venomous snake at Malta.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Your so full of it. You'd let mosquitoes bite you and catch West Nile Virus or Equine Encephalitis, or Dengue Fever? You'd let a cockroach stay in your kitchen making THOUSANDS of eggs and not put down some boric acid? Imagine the diseases they carry!
Yes I'm prolly wrong for eating proceesed food - good point. But you have NO clue what may be in a vegan meal. Microscopic "thingys" that have mothers could be on it. You don't know!
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Yes but you read that wrong in Wikipedia. That bacteria thing was just an "evolutionist's" theory of our orgins. mtDNA comes from your organelles, a sub unit of one of your cells. It was CREATED by God...
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - You are being disingenuous. You NEVER killed a bug or ate something that had a mother or a head?
OK what if you open the door and natural SUNLIGHT was the illumination source for the bug? Hey wait who created the lightbulb? You think Thomas Edison didn't have cockroaches in NJ (USA)?
What God-given scripts do we follow? Breathing, eating, sex, and elimination are prolly the only ones. Free will thinking is NOT a script. AI can not display free will nor real emotions YET.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Moses was not a fake. He may have been "slow of tongue" and had his brother do most of his talking to Pharaoh but was no fake. Even Muslims and Egyptologists accept his authenticity.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - I dunno' you'll have to find it. You smugly alluded to it in another post as "sapphire tablet download"? Don't you remember what you typed only about 60 minutes ago?
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Didn't care for tha movie. I didn't like the analogy to corporate America taking over as that is ALREADY true for globalization. I din't like RoboCop's violence. I did like that other robot ED-209 as it made me fearful. That machine gun & sound effects were amazing!
"Please put down your weapon! You have 20 secs to comply! (blast)"
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - but in your analogy you still have to give them a "script" to follow. If you where a REAL computer programmer you would know that AI is NOTHING like human intelligence. AI is nothing but tested scripts that are called up as a subroutine based on different external stimulae. WE ARE DIFFERENT. We learn differently. We are a little less than the angels. Hebrews 2: 7
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Try telling that to a cockroach who runs away in fear of the bigfoot godlike creature who just turned on the light! LOL
No not EVOLUTION it was CREATED by Yahweh (God) and is obvious b/c overall complexity and apparently designed architecture to life and universe is so "in your face" to outweigh chaotic godless natural selection.
Oh really? When's the last time you had a hamburger at McDonalds or crushed a pesky bug in your kitchen? Yes we are VENGEFUL god's to them. But they don't care as they are NOT free moral agents and ARE quasi-robots. I think Buddhists won't kill anything (except maybe germs). LOL
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - mitochondrial DNA is used to test for relationship of humans to one another through the mom's mtDNA (in a database). That's how the National Geographic Genographics program via Dr. Spencer Wells of Harvard U works. Look it up!
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Chk YOUR facts. Google the Maidenhair Tree (living fossil). Its the Ginkgo Biloba tree mainly grown Near East but popular in UK too. The LEAVES are ONLY part of tree we imperfect ppl can tolerate. However, when ripe, displays ATTRACTIVE almost GOLDEN color fruit which are HIGHLY toxic but full of antioxidants.
Yes it does do as you say but it also impacts mental confusion too.
This story is just Spooky's SIDEBAR and nothing to do with bible.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Granted... but but John said to test ppl who say this or say that: 1 John 4: 1-3 - Have I once told you anything bad or not claimed Jesus Christ as the Son of God and redeemer for Adam' (man's) sin? Jesus is my exemplar and rabbi. However, I worship the same God he does not directly him. When I pray to his/my God I end it in Jesus' name Amen (let it be).
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - OOPS! You screwed up TARD! You answered for Random didn't you (Freudian)?
Re: your last paragraph: I really don't know if that's true or not. I mean there's historical and anecdotal evidence to support that theory of yours. But your right I do have to be careful to TEST/FILTER that for obvious reasons.
See Psalms 97: 11 and Proverbs 4: 18. But as you can clearly see by my many grammatical errors and other faux pas I am hardly infallible.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Again (for the umpteenth time) we were NOT created as robots with AI. We were created as free moral agents with REAL intelligence only second to the angels as Paul says in book of Hebrews. We are like gods to lower-life forms like animals & bugs.
And AGAIN the danger was only in Adam's MIND! His disobedience was the danger. There was not ONE thing in the garden that was dangerous. That's prolly why Yahweh installed the pre-Satan good angel (cherub) there.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Moses said "embarrassed" but that was just his modern take on it. They prolly thought it was really sexual and where confused about it since they didn't have coitus until AFTER they were kicked out.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - The bible does not answer that. My theory is that KNOWLEDGE was already IMPLANTED from day 1. I think oxidation can be used to block certain higher order thought processes. A MASSIVE shot of antioxidants can drop that veil as can be seen in the ginkgo biloba tree fruit which IS poisonous to us but they were perfect.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - I admit by me using YouTube shorthand I amy be doing a disservice to other readers. Can't be helped as YT really sucks. But with a little self-bible study with bible aids EVEN YOU will get it. I just hope you pray on it and get the truth before its too late.
Your last paragraph would be a typical statement Satan would use on Jesus. Like when Satan took Jesus to that high-place and offered him world govts of the time. What did JC tell him? Same applies here...
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No Moses didn't mention Michael as he was never formerly introduced even though that's who he met and kinda' saw on Mt. Sinai during the 10 Commandment thing?
No the writer who says that was John when he said "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
He was refering to Jesus' pre-human existence as Michael the Archangel. Arguably Michael was God'd mouthpiece from Adam's sin down to Jesus' earthly mission.
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - You just aren't listening are you. The Tree of Knowledge posed NO DANGER whatsoever! It was the ACT of disobedience of EATING from it. The fruit was FINE as it gave them EARLY (too soon) knowledge (or clear thinking as antioxidants would do).
Kool !
HorizonDelta 2 weeks ago
THE TRIFORCE !!!
ColomboBone 1 month ago
I can do the same thing with a helium balloon......
And it doesn't require wires or generating high voltages.
Make a self contained version with the generator ON the craft and make it fly.
Then you actually will have something.
joe71c10 4 months ago
Of course its ANTI-GRAVITY - can't you see or summat? P.S Im making one at home
WeSaluteYou888 5 months ago
fishing string and a junk camera
DocAracnid 6 months ago
try it in space TRY IN SPACE TRY IN SPACE then you will know if its anti graity
TheSaltysack 6 months ago
@TheSaltysack - Already done that. Russian satellites use it for station keeping. Americans will follow soon if not already. However, since no more shuttle program I don't know how we will get them into orbit. Definitively NOT anti-gravity. AG is something all together different. Google: Dr. Ning Li and Dr. Eugene Podkletnov for REAL AG systems in use today by BaE Systems and US Army Redstone Lab. NASA tried it and failed.
Spookysr 6 months ago
He recorded this with an onion..
jordannw2010 8 months ago 2
Does the wire get hot? Also is it 100% proven that ion wind is not the primary force? If the test in oil proved this, then what medium does this force require? It works in our atmosphere. I'd like to see another vacuum test other than "mythbusters". Not saying they falsified anything, just would like to see better electrical connections, a better demonstration.
Cloudy2Clear 10 months ago
@Cloudy2Clear - I dunno you'd have to contact BEAMSHIPCAPTAIN as he sells these in Pennsylvania (USA). I'd think NO... no heat as there is really no current to speak of. It's just high voltage. It is a stream of electrons pushing air molecules so yes ION WIND sounds like the process here. It will not work in a vacuum as the electrons need to push against something. So it wouldn't work in outer space. Myhthbusters is not a valid entity to me. What's their creds? None?
Spookysr 10 months ago
@Spookysr - Yes, it's a big capacitor w/ small separation of anode/cathode. My main question pertains to the strength of the ion wind. Could you direct me to a legit site confirming or denying the ability of ion wind to produce this effect. Grams of lift vs weight/area. Perhaps with a few good references, this critical answer will make sense to me. In the oil test, couldn't oil molecules serve as the medium creating oily ion movement? I'm not dense, just trying to put the pieces together.
Cloudy2Clear 10 months ago
@Cloudy2Clear - If that's true then the foil is one electrode and earth is the other. The dielectric would be air. I don't think capacitors have anode or cathodes.That's rectifiers or diodes. Yes oil could be a dielectric too but it would impede the craft's movement. Ions are simply charged particles (atoms). It involves the valence electrons moving from one orbit (hole) to another. In the interim it collides with air molecules (and their charges) creating lift. It wont work in a vacuum.
Spookysr 10 months ago
@Spookysr Thanks very much for your input.
Cloudy2Clear 10 months ago
@Cloudy2Clear - You're welcome. That's what I'm here for...
Spookysr 10 months ago
@nimbla1 - Power Wisdom and Courage - which one of the Triforce do you lack? duh!
Spookysr 11 months ago
it would be simple enough to find time dilation's that would prove anti gravity because time and gravity are directly related.
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
@Jeocellguy - That's assuming the wishful thinker jumps on the academia-bandwagon and accept that time is more than a human concept and is not intractable. To me time is something that does not exist and is only a sentient realization of the passing of events. Anti-Gravity is something "new" discovered by a Russian scientist from Finland who works at BAE Systems. Also a Korean female scientist at NASA/US ARMY Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville Alabama (USA). It's not "simple" at all.
Spookysr 11 months ago
@Spookysr part 2: seen in jumbo jets with time dilation's. In fact if it where not for anti gravity we would not have an atmosphere period, and if you are interested in this subject google planet near death, i also suspected orbits where maintained via a repulsion and an attraction before their article.
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
@Jeocellguy - I don't see the relationship to TIME in your examples... Time is not an entity or a thing like space is. You can manipulate space but not time as it doesn't really exist like space does. Its a matter of semantics (i.e. use of English language) I guess. Ppl tend to believe everything mainstream academia says without checking the basic "IS IT LOGICAL" test. Same applies to every theory that originated with them. Mostly just illogical atheist rhetoric to me.
Spookysr 11 months ago
@Spookysr No, time and gravity are directly related, you disrupt gravity you disrupt time. And yes i have worked with real anti gravity, because you have not researched it it does not mean you are right, i have worked with ormes. gravity is directly related to electrons. if it where not for this we would not have an atmosphere period. this is why jumbo jets have reported time dilation's.You want to see something cool google planet near death or is it.
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
@Jeocellguy - O.R.M.E.S.? Jeez Louise! I shudda' known! You've prolly not even researched David Hudson's patents and extensive research on this. You're just one of those pseudoscience-types who dabbles in electrolysis and calls it hydrogen fuel cell technology. You need to research what f.c.t. REALLY is. Also try a certificate or audit course at local community college on General Physics. Dave is into pseudoscience too but he is so rich it doesn't matter. He has plenty of legit help!
Spookysr 10 months ago
@Spookysr Why don't you do some real science like i do and you can experiment with these ORMES yourself like i have you moron. WTF is wrong with you idiots? if it isn't in text books it isn't real? Do you honestly think we will still be exactly where we are 200 years from now after how far we have come in the last 200 years? You guys are complete morons, what a waist of time you guys are, pathetic.
Jeocellguy 10 months ago
@Jeocellguy - You have no idea who David Hudson is do you?
Spookysr 10 months ago
@Jeocellguy - I did some research on you and your project. They all smell of con-artistry. Can can any educated person be so daft about science? All you want is money. You don't want truth. ORMES has nothing to do with your project. Your stuff is just electrolysis. It doesn't produce white gold. That is just white calcium. It doesn't produce enuf' Hydrogen to run a car. That's just stupid. And a unmodified combustion engine runs on a liquid (gasoline) not a gas (hydrogen). Who's the moron?
Spookysr 10 months ago
@Spookysr part 1: Sorry but it is simple to me, because i have worked with anti gravity, i have a basic understanding of how and what it is, time and gravity are directly related so it is a simple test to see if these ion lifters have an anti gravity property, i suspect it should as my work shows that electrons are directly related to gravity, so the disruption as well as the removal give us an anti gravity feature,
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
@Jeocellguy - Sorry unless you've worked with Dr. Ning Li or Dr. Eugene Podkletnov you haven't worked on TRUE Anti-Gravity projects. Their projects involve huge spinning ceramic disks (at 500+ rpm) cooled by liquid Helium. Anything above it LOOSES gravity! The explanation is FAR from SIMPLE! NASA still hasn't been able to explain it and they don't want to spin anything at 500 rpm that is as big as a gymnasium.
Spookysr 11 months ago
The ionized air attracts the foil to it but as the foil approaches it the wire moves aswell making the area of air being ionized move up along with the foil aswell. A similar effect can be done with a magnet. If you place a DC arc through the air over a pole on a magnet the air the arc moves through will have a magnetic field around it just as a wire would causing the magnet to push it away in one direction.
MrAwsome514 1 year ago
@MrAwsome514 - I think you are describing how to magnetize a copper wire with an electromagnet source. Of course if you do that the it will cause the wire to become slightly magnetically bipolar. It the permanent magnet below is of the same pole facing the similar pole of the newly magnetized wire then of course it will repel it. Don't sure what you are trying to describe.
We experience a slightly similar reaction with solar wind and Earth magnetosphere causing Auroral displays at both poles.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr You are close but imagine if instead of a wire you used the air itself as your conductor. At some where between 30,000-40,000 volts the electrical current can cross a short air gap over a magnet. The air is not fixed in it's position and thus can be moved unlike the wire.
MrAwsome514 1 year ago
Well this is not antigravity any way so it does not matter. Though it is true that the thrust from the air flow generated is indeed too small to lift the device the airflow is actually irrelevant. It is not the airflow that causes it to lift. Well then what is is then you ask? That is surprizingly simple. You forget that not only is the ionized air attracted to the foil but the foil is also attracted to the ionized air which loses it's ionization as the wire moves up. (see next comment)
MrAwsome514 1 year ago
@MrAwsome514 - Thank you for your detailed explanation. However, it's obvious this is not anti-gravity but simple electrostatic discharge. A high voltage assembly, off-screen, is pushing charged particles (electrons) or ions down the wire and out through the aluminum foil. As you know from Newton's Law of Motion to every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction. The ions propel the foil ship upward due to this action. It's simply "ion wind".
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Yes thank you for restating the same point I have been getting at this entire time... I was stating that the attraction between the ionized air and the foil are not a one way pull and that the aluminum foil was also pulled up to the ionized air. That is the equal and opposite reaction here which if you had payed any attention you would have knowen that is what I have been talking about this entire time.
MrAwsome514 1 year ago
@Spookysr Ion wind as a force is insufficient by over three orders of magnitude to loft even a five gram model, and models hunderds of grams have been lofted. Even a mouse has been lofted ("Orville"", on JLNlabs website). Ion wind has an upper limit to force also, but there is NO LIMIT to the Biefeld Brown effect! Read the data and the literature. THis works also under oil, which of course does not ionize. The force instead is due to high energy electrostatics, and electrohydrodynamics.
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
@MrAwsome514 The ONLY reason this works is by Coulombs forces. Which explains why its more efficient in vacuum, and why it still works at all in vacuum.
The inverntor called it ELECTROGRAVITICS, recognizing the three forces of electricity, magnetism and gravity are all reciprocal and interchangable. THe unifying field is the electric field.
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
I would think that there is gravity in outer space, since our planet is kept in orbit by the Suns gravity, and that our solar system is perhaps in orbit around a black hole at the center of our galaxy.
kevininarp 1 year ago
@kevininarp - Technically that would not be "outer" space. Yes there is Solar gravity present as well as lunar gravity. However, the farther you leave our solar system into "outer" space you only encounter very weak legacy gravity if anything at all. Therefore IMO anti-gravity propulsion would be useless in deep space between stars. Black Holes are not common nor useful for propulsion yet. Dark Space is common but it exhibits "reverse" gravity (push away gravity).
Spookysr 1 year ago
@kevininarp - Also the space between Mars and Jupiter where the "asteroid belt" is exhibits very little legacy gravity. However, there is enough legacy gravity from Jupiter to at least cause gravitational perturbation on the belt closest to Jupiter. However, the only dwarf planet, Ceres, within the belt has it's own gravity.
Spookysr 1 year ago
I think the only speed of light travel we can accomplish right now is Radio Waves. We've already sent a radio signal from the radio telescope in the Ukraine to the big exoplanet in Gliese system (not the new Goldilocks planet - Gliese 581c). It won't get there until 2021. We need to send another to the Sagittarius system (1977 Wow! signal origin) and maybe to the theoretical one only 6ly away in the Ophiuchus system. I just know there's one there despite what they say about Peter Van de Kamp.
Spookysr 1 year ago
The only theoretical FTL is possibly Pulsar radio waves (i.e. Crab Pulsar). We need to really investigate this phenomena better. Maybe we can send an FTL radio waves?
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr If we discover anything that goes FTL, the whole Relativity model will need to be revised. If you have the time, you should read some of Paul Marmet's papers. He had some counter-establishment ideas about physics. Towards his last years he wrote a book trying to question quantum theory. This is a man who taught quantum physics for decades. Once he took a non-establishment stance, they started to censure him. He has a paper about relativistic mass that's interesting.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
How did you engineer the solar photonic detonation wave propulsor lift contractor? I've been trying to do that my entire life and I just cant get the fractions right in my equations.
Apocol0id 1 year ago
@Apocol0id - Huh? I did wha...? Solar what what now? What the heck are you talking about? I've never seen those particular words chained together in that fashion. This is BeamshipCaptain's toy not mine. It uses electrostaic energy or HV lifter - not lasers or solar. Engineer? Oh really where? What are your creds?
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Oh god, I post a joke on someone's channel and it happens to be someone who can't recognize absurdity...I'm sorry.
Apocol0id 1 year ago
@Apocol0id - With all of the "junk scientists" that visit here it's hard to know. Next time use this /sarcasm or /joke so ppl will know your not being straight forward.
Spookysr 1 year ago
Hmmmmm... Lot's of intelligent comments.
Since this is youtube, someone should stop the chain of intelligence.
Someone find Link, he's missing and the triforce is trying to force it's way through the city.
zankai4the1ending 1 year ago
@zankai4the1ending - Yes plenty! LOL
My sci-fi fav is Transformers not Zelda. Optimus Prime RULES!
Spookysr 1 year ago
@zankai4the1ending - Where's the All Spark? (Loved that movie!)
I think the scene at Qatar SOCCENT airbase with the Sikorsky MH-53 Pave Low chopper (Scorponok) was simply awesome; "Pilot: power down your craft and your crew step out of or we will kill you..." and how about "Bring the rain!" (AC-130 Spooky w/Vulcan?)
Now that's a real alien invasion scenario!
Spookysr 1 year ago
Awesome scene: /watch?v=QJxrVT49XHY (Start at 00: 24 :00) - The MH-53 Pave Low was actually Decepticon: Blackout. He was piggy-backing Decepticon: Scorponok who it took a 105-mm howitzer M102 cannon (not the M61 Vulcan) to just partially damage him.
Spookysr 1 year ago
"Fate rarely calls on us at a moment of our choosing." - Optimus Prime
Spookysr 1 year ago
Anyone know what the piece of music in the video is?
cavudog 1 year ago
@cavudog - Ican't find it on my editor so I must have used it when using MS Movie Maker. I'm thinking it's from a movie about the holy crusades into Jerusalem. But I can't remember the name of the movie. The music in that movie was quite awesome. I use another music piece from it in my Ask an Alien video too. I like the oboes...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@cavudog - Kingdom Of Heaven (2005) music by Henry Gregson-Williams and Hans Zimmer. Lots of beautiful music from that movie. Checkout Hans-Zimmer-com.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - In my state in N.E. USA we have been having a UFO flap summer 2010 w/cigar & triangle shaped craft. Some just orange lights (laser projections?). I know what triangles are but the cigars are a mystery. That dates back to the 19th century even before the NAZI Haneubu saucers. Looks like somebody is resurrecting them again. We have several mil-ind-complex aircraft mfgs here and 2 major USAF bases just north of here in another state. That accounts for the triangles & lights...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Too bad there's so much fake video on YouTube otherwise it could be a great place to post UFO videos.If I was an alien, Nebraska wouldn't be the best place to fly over, given it's so flat and you can see for miles. It would be a ideal area to crash land though. Most likely the cigar shapes are some kind of prototype airship. I don't see aliens needing to build aerodynamic spacecraft given that they fly in the vacuum of space. Unless the ships were not meant for space travel.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Yes I agree. A universal 1st contact protocol MOST entities would practice (except Columbus) is to "call first"! Subsequently any UFO landings, let say at Washington DC or NYC, would not be seen as a hostile 1st strike. I think all we have seen so far are man-made UFO's and/or the metaphysical occult world which is trying so hard to prove they don't really exist (play on words?).
Anti-Gravity propulsion does not work unless there is GRAVITY to oppose. Think about it.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Well, you assume that any extraterrestrials visiting earth are part of some organization. This is a construct of science fiction, and predominately Star Trek. Interstellar travel may be so easy for them that it would be like a weekend safari. They may not care about any first contact, and are just tourists. The only reason they have contact with us at all is in case they crash. Antigravity is overrated it's only important on earth. In space it's point and go.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Well I personally don't believe in EBE (extraterrestrial BIOLOGICAL entities) visiting Earth at all. I do believe it is an occult global organization that has a "winged serpent" emblem on uniforms, etc. SME's (subj matter experts) say that's the Illuminati but I'm skeptical about that. I believe the Sci-Fi of Orsen Welles created this modern myth in 1938 and the CIA carried it to the next level in 1947 to cover-ip Operation Paperclip to today.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Any alien culture would have more sense then to be caviler tourists or careless visitors knowing we have WMD's that some of us have never heard of. Since 1947 the UFO's should have prompted an act of war but it didn't. Why? B/c they are US! It would be buddy-spikes or friendly fire if we reacted militarily.
Interstellar travel IMO is not possible due to fuel limitations. Even nuclear is not really limitless when U understand how it really works. Navy subs are high maintenance.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr It's hard to say what aliens will do. They don't have the same psychology. As far as WMD, they are relatively recent. ICBMs are arrows shot into the air that fall back down. Even the most advanced missles would not track a supposed UFO. Before WWII, we didn't have radar. Fuel limitations of interstellar travel is based on increases in relativistic mass for charged bodies due to EM field interactions.(i.e particle accelerators) I believe this does not exist for neutral bodies.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - IMO all life in the niverse follows the same psychology just like how Hydrogen is also. Since I am a Judeo-Christian I belive that sentient humanoid life would be ALSO creted in God's image too. But despite that as Kevin Spacey (my hero) said "All life throughout the Universe knows right fom wrong..." Visiting w/o calling first is TOTALLY wrong! Try going to your boss's house unnanounced tommorow!
There are many top-secret SDI weapons other than missle technology.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr You may be right if the aliens considered us as sentient. Tell that to monkeys and apes. Their image of God may be different from ours. Even on this planet, there are differing opinions, and we are all human. There's been a lot of technological advance since WWII, this in itself seems strange.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - "Tell that to monkeys and apes. Their image of God may be different from ours."
Their image of God? Monkeys or aliens? LOL
I think it is universal as all humans admit their image of God(s) is metaphysical (higher lifeform(s)) and extraterrestrial (above the earth). Some religions don't have a God such as Buddhists and Animists. Atheist Evolutionists are also philosophically a religion as it is closely held belief system based on faith (albeit science).
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Oops, I was referring to the aliens, ut I'm sure the monkeys have their own god like entity too. My point was that we consider monkeys and apes to be non-sentient, But science is starting to discover otherwise. The aliens may be so advanced that they may think of us like we think of cockroaches. So, we may not be able to imagine how the alien thought process works.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Well I think the monkey scientists are operating in "wishful-thinking" mode again. I do not believe Bonobos are sentient, have a deity, nor do they exhibit homosexual behavior as they were trying to "con" Oprah to believe yesterday. IMO all of this new-age "ape" crap is to help bolster a already ethically/morally criminal theory of Godless evolution invented by a 19th century disgruntled quasi-clergyman who blamed God for his daughter's death from Scarlett fever (i.e. Darwin).
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Everything is sentient to some degree. The limitations are in the brain hardware of all animals and insects that prevent them from expressing sentience. As for Bonobos, they basically will bone anything that moves. Apes and monkeys, are not configured like us. Their memory is limited, hormone levels are all different, and don't have the hardware in the brain for self control. Evolution is a mechanism for species variation. I don't believe random molecules resulted in life.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Technological advance since WW1 (actually 1914) seems pretty much philosophically related to misanthropic metaphysical activities assumed to be Biblically prophetic. Therefore it is allegedly 'acquired knowledge' rather than natural evolution of the human thought. How can you explain the big jump to atomic energy based on one man's "thoughts popping in his head" (per his biography) when he was a teenager around WW1? Yes that's Albert I'm referring to.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - If E=MC² then M=E/C² therefore the (E)nergy used to achieve C (speed of light) increases (M)ass exponentially. Therefore light travel would be impossible for anything with mass (us, them, and our ships). Also the more energy you put in the more you use up or is converted to heat. There must be diminishing returns. A neutral body sounds problematic to me. Are metaphysical (higher lifeforms) made up of neutral bodies? Are they pure energy? I really dunno...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr The equation is uses the Lorentz factor, relating velocity to speed of light. Lorentz based it on previous work by people like Searle. M in this case is TOTAL MASS. This includes rest mass and relativistic mass. The E in this equation goes to infinity if you assume that relativistic mass increases with speed to infinity. Again assumes the Lorentz factor. For a neutral body the EM interactions causing relativistic mass increase do not exist. Most normal bodies are neutral.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Spookysr The dogma nowadays is that relativistic mass increases to infinity, but this probably only applies to charged particles. The whole idea was originated by G. F. C. Searle (1897), "On the Steady Motion of an Electrified Ellipsoid".The real key to interstellar travel is to find a form of propulsion that does not involve momentum exchange. (i.e. not rockets, jet engines or even ionic drives) In space you only need energy to accelerate to a constant speed, and change direction.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - George Frederick Searle believed in God and went proselytizing too. But he also believed in Einstein's "Special Relativity" so he would agree that increasing mass would prevent C or FTL travel. Interstellar travel needs at least close to C to be practical to get here from another star system (even Alpha Proxima or Barnard's Star).
Here's a clue: what already does demonstrated interstellar travel for thousands of years? Let's copy their propulsion method. Comets!
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr I'm not saying that Special Relativity is wrong. I'm just saying it may not be complete. The only thing that says we cannot travel FTL is the concept of relativistic mass. So the way to travel FTL is to eliminate relativistic mass effect. It was almost the same argument people used for why we couldn't exceed the sound barrier. It ended up being an engineering problem once it was fully understood. Comets use gravity, and we have not mastered that yet.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - There's no way to eliminate mass IMO. You can not surround it with a space-warp field as that is just junk science. FYI The B-2 bomber does not use a "special" electrostatic field to mitigate the effects of faster than sound travel. That's just junk science too. I think comets use more than gravity as their is the coma tail. Doesn't that propel it somehow too? NASA has perfected the "slingshot" gravity effect around our moon, Jupiter, etc. to increase probe speed.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr The comet tail is debris being blasted off the Comet by the solar winds. Notice there are two tails, an Ice tail that trails behind the comet's orbit (hence, it is falling at high velocity around the star in question), and there is the ion gas tail, which consists of the vapors that are so easily removed, getting blown off the comet. Both reflect light at high wavelengths, which means they only look like propulsion trails - they are the byproducts of friction on the ice ball's surface.
Dlord007 1 year ago
@Dlord007 - I guess I should have been more specific. I meant the theoretical interstellar comets (i.e. possibly 96P/Machholz?). They theoretically don't use star gravity like Oort Cloud comets. We need to figure out what propels them (if they exist at all).
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Rest mass cannot be negated, but that's not preventing FTL. It's the so called relativistic mass that's preventing FTL. Relativistic mass is not real mass, it's the increase in inertia(opposition to motion) resulting from moving a charged particle and is an effect of EM interaction. If there is no EM interaction, there is no increase in relativistic mass. I need to write a paper on this.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Spookysr Scientists say the comet tail is caused by solar wind burning off ice. I wonder how much ice these comets have. They must be burning off for thousands of years. If it is solar wind, then there's no propulsion there, but their orbits would change as their mass decrease. Can they measure the change? Gravity slingshots take gravitational energy from massive bodies. No massive bodies between stars, so far as we know so far.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Well 'Voyager I' I belief is attempting interstellar travel right now. It used slingshot method to get there. But I'm afraid it is just in the black void right now. I would think that black holes and Dark Energy may exhibit enough gravity (or anti-gravity) for slingshot method.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Sure, I've seen in theory. Gravity sailing basically. Good for probes, not practical for a human life span. We'll have to chart the currents first. We may find there is an equivalent for the trade winds that ancient sailors used.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - I guess I should have been more specific. I meant the theoretical interstellar comets (i.e. possibly 96P/Machholz?). They theoretically don't use star gravity like Oort Cloud comets. We need to figure out what propels them (if they exist).
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Well yes it already happened in Ashland Nebraska. Look up ex-Police Chief Herbert Schirmer. Incident: December 3, 1967. 2:30a. Remember Herb is ex-Navy and his dad was USAF. What happened is being pawned off (by Condon Report - translation: CIA) as legitimate potential 1st contact with a rational human being (i.e. Herb). Perfect scenario for a "black op".
"Are you the watchman over this place?", the being asked, while spraying gaseous propofol (ICI 35868) all around him...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Zepplin AG (as known today) was arguably the prototype manufacture of the top-secret "cigars" back in late 1800's and is still in operation today. Now they are openly pushing the new Zeppelin NT. Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin was in USA in 1874 and was inspired by our Civil War balloons. You'd be surprised how much the UFO dots seem to connect back to the Germans as Nick Cook is proving. I think Sikorsky Aircraft is working on something not unlike their documented UFO Cypher.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Likely interstellar ships will look anything like what we make. (i.e. no need for aerodynamics, and not based on thrust) In space there is nothing to thrust, you could not carry enough propellant to make such a journey. Even the most advance ion drive we have now requires a propellant. It's still based on momentum exchange. Even particle accelerators are based on momentum exchange. True interstellar ships would most likely not be able to fly in earth's atmosphere.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - You are 100% right on the money! Try explaining this to the brain dead morons with their junk science. They just don't get it. No method we have including the Vasimir Rocket will get you from here to there due to need for limitless fuel. Even aliens would know this. We can't be seen from deep space so why launch a pointless mission to visit us. Jupiter/Neptune size exoplanets are barely "visible" to us. Our best bet is the WOW! signal of 1977. We need to expand on that!
Spookysr 1 year ago
You build an air ionizer!!!!
TheTarrMan 1 year ago
@TheTarrMan - I agree! But I didn't build it. Talk to BeamshipCaptain not me.
Spookysr 1 year ago
Power. Wisdom. Courage.
HowlsInTheDistance 1 year ago
@HowlsInTheDistance - The golden triangle? You Legend of Zelda enthusiast!
Spookysr 1 year ago
From: wuhle
@Spookysr I don't think you can measure a power source in just volts can you?
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@wuhle - Technically you shouldn't. You should always measure voltage & current in Amps. You can use Ohms Law to find Power in Watts. However, most HV assemblies are low current but high voltage. That's so it's not lethal. IMO hard metal man-made UFO's use LETHAL amts for propulsion. Of course interior is filled w/ Helium to achieve neutral buoyancy. Other fast movers prolly laser projections.
Spookysr 1 year ago
Don't they toys with this?
wuhlei 1 year ago
@wuhlei - No! A toy that emitted electrostatic fields for propulsion would be banned by safety orgs like UL Labs. The toys you refer to are propelled by plastic propellers with a low-powered PM - DC motor and rechargeable ion-lithium battery. The hull is made from Styrofoam. Check out Airhogs dot com.
Spookysr 1 year ago
Where can i get one of those????
DesignerNova 1 year ago
@DesignerNova - BeamshipCaptain. He's in here somewhere.
Spookysr 1 year ago
What voltages are talking about here. In Britain its a 250volt house supply. Would that be enough for me to make one of these things. Or would i need a transformer.
G777GUN 1 year ago
What voltages are talking about here. In Britain its a 250volt house supply. Would that be enough for me to make one of these things. Or would i need a transformer.
G777GUN 1 year ago
@G777GUN - Its actually around 20kV that's 20,000 volts. You would need a automobile HV unit or a HV assy from an old Television. The UK system 220V not 250V. In USA its 110V but fluctuates up to 120V. Yes you would need a 10:1 step-up transformer but the shock could injure you as it would supply plenty of current. A HV assy does not have enough current to kill you only shock the bejesus outta' ya. Don't play with this. Contact BeamshipCaptain.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr I don't think you can measure a power source in just volts can you?
wuhlei 1 year ago
ion wind and antigravity
in other words:
V++V
A++A
XElvikingoX 1 year ago
@XElvikingoX - What does that mean?
Spookysr 1 year ago
ionized wind particles duh they even did this exact experiment on mythbusters
MrFrijolitos 1 year ago
You think you could build a bigger craft and supply it with enough power to life the craft and people? Or would it be to heavy cause seems like you would need alot of power on the craft to lift the weight of people and the craft. Very interesting though good video.
MrLostkause 1 year ago
@MrLostkause - Ask the guy who builds and sells them. He is here and his screen-name is BeamshipCaptain.
I personally think the power required would fry the passengers. But if some sort of lift gas was used to mitigate the weight of the cargo it might work. I believe that's how the NAZIs did it in WW2 with their saucers. Google: Nick Cook and hunt for zero point for more info...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr The passengers would not fry, if they all wore wire mesh suits. The big question is, is this more efficient than conventional lift systems? If it wasn't for Hindenburg causing mass panic, we'd be flying around in airships now. With modern technology, blimps and airships would be so much more efficient. The oil companies would really hate that. Imagine crossing the Atlantic with a small fraction of the fuel airplanes used.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - I think a "chain mail" suit (aka wire mesh) might make you MORE suited to electrocution than before. You wouldn't want a conductor you'd want an insulator like rubber as there is no way to ground the passengers once aloft. Also that would add to payload weight. However, if you mitigate the craft's overall weight w/LTA gas U wouldn't need much electrostatic field propulsion voltage 2 get it 2 move. Yes Zeppelin NT is trying to push USA blimp travel again via Airship Ventures Inc.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Hell no! You don't want to ground the mesh suit. You'd fry! If ungrounded, the mesh suit would act like a Gaussian pill box. If you remember, electric fields are excluded from inside of the pill box. The other way is if you slowly raise the voltage while the passengers are in contact. Once the passengers are at the same level, there is no potential difference, and no current flow. They use this technique when working on high tension power lines.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Well in secret world of spies there is a thing called a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility). The walls have wire mesh that is grounded and it reflects electromagnetic fields away and prevents EM from getting out. Also electronic technicians wear ground straps on wrists to drain off stray ESD voltage to ground. The passengers are never exposed to real voltage w/current. Its just an EM field w/ ESD(electrostatic discharge). Anyway UFO's don't have passengers IMO.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - I have a electrical riddle for you. During the 19th century they ran 3,000+ mile submarine telegraph armored cables across the ocean w/only ONE conductor! Supposedly the electrical return was Earth ground. I'm totally baffled. How could that possibly work? Evidently it worked quite well. They used large DC voltages though. Edison experimented with single conductor telephone cables w/earth ground up to 20 miles. 1800's railroad comm systems did too. HOW?
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr I guess this was a riddle in those days, but it shouldn't be now. You cable TV essentially is a single wire. The mesh is a EM shield. Do the experiment, you can use a single wire to transmit your cable signal, but it'll have all kinds of interference. Since the earth is an enormous source of electrons, and the water touches the earth, the water is acting like the shield from interference. Signal is just the positiveness and thus just the difference in electrons from the ground.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Well Tesla, Bell, Edison, & Morse were confused as none were REAL scientists of the day. They were just glorified "salesmen" that borrowed other people's inventions as their own and patented them. Earth return is still today somewhat of a mystery as no one in academia is teaching how it really works. The ancient submarine telegraph cable was inefficient and they could have used the metal armor as a crude return but they didn't. They used Earth return and it somehow worked.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Copper wires are still inefficient, the transmitters and receivers have improved. As for Earth return, as I learned it the earth is the perfect ground because it a perfect source and sink of electrons. Therefore if you measured another voltage against it, you get your voltage above the ground/earth voltage. Electrons flow from -ve to +ve poll of a battery through the circuit. If you ground the -ve end, it pulls this down to absolute zero, giving the circuit unlimited electrons.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - OK but I thought "return" has to be "same" electrons u put in. Not virtual ones 3,000 nm away. I think that's mysterious part.
I guess once top secret US NAVY ELF submarine comm system uses huge buried radial ground conductors at Chicago IL, Cutler ME, and Perth AU. Some how the million watt signals can be picked up around the globe as Morse code or RTTY even underwater. The sub needs to trail out a 5 nm cable from the stern to act as a reception only antenna.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr - Now they use satellite-based laser 2-way comm system.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Contrary to most electronics books, which show current flowing from positive to negative pole, physicists know that real current(electrons) flow from negative pole to positive pole. The positive side is made deficient in electrons, so that it attracts electrons. The source of electrons can be from the negative side of a battery or the earth.. Since you can't distinguish electrons from each other, it doesn't matter where they come from.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Yes that is the "hole theory". Now that makes better sense to me now. Electrons came from earth ground in Cape Cod Mass. filling valence holes along the 3,000 nm single conductor submarine telegraph cable returning to a virtual reservoir of electron holes in England Earth ground. The minuscule current must be not only due to DC resistance of the copper conductor but also the use of a virtual earth grounding system. They should have used 2 conductors made of silver.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Believe it or not the new 3k nM submarine fiber optic cables also need help to cross the ocean. They use actively powered fiber repeaters like on island land bases, oil derricks, or sea buoys. Unless someone can invent a passive laser repeater that lays on the sea floor. I'm working on a new technology method of SMS communications that uses a complex virtual mesh/cloud network. No cell phones or satellites used.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Well cable TV doesn't really count as the shield is used as return not Earth. Also it's using RF energy not DC voltage. You can use a single conductor to pick up a weak cable signal as it's nothing but a radio antenna in that case.
The ancient submarine telegraph used a glass fiber galvanometer to act as the receiver. The fiber would deflect with weak voltage arriving from thousands of miles of ocean cable. The voltage would be very high at the sender & arrive as mV - 1 wire!.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr The terms DC and AC really only applies to power transmission. It describes the how the electric field vary when traversing the power lines. In data transmission the electric field is always fluctuating. The old lines used to use AM, which required a reference to ground(earth). The advantage to RF is that the cables themselves resonate at RF frequencies, resulting in less attenuation. Of course, it's irrelevant, since optical cables are used nowadays.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Well half right. AC applies to RF too as RF is the EMF product of alternating current (AC) in a resonant circuit. Tesla invented AC for power transmission as it was more efficient than Edison's DC (direct current) method. HV DC is lethal as it gives you no chance to take your hand away. HV AC at 60 cps (Hertz) gives you at least 16.6 milliseconds every second to pull away safely. Also you can not propagate unless the voltage is AC which allows for EMF. (electromagnetic force).
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Agreed. I'm not saying AC/DC doesn't exist, but we were talking about signal transmission. In this case, voltage variation is measured not not current. So, as long as you have a component on the line that can differentiate the voltage change from background noise, you detect the signal. So the current is irrelevant, as long as there is some flow in the circuit.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - In the ancient telegraph system that is quite true. Very small current. I'm still baffled how Granville's 1895 inductive mobile phone/telegraph rail comm system is not more well known. It's essentially the 1st cell phone (well kinda'). He also used a single conductor with earth ground. He used long conduit coils w/iron core along rail tracks. I can't see how any post-Civil War wire mfg could make miles & miles of that stuff. He sold it to GE and Edison. BIG MISTAKE!
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Optical fibers are technical still conveying AC as the laser beam is still technically in the EM spectrum. The way it's pumped is irrelevant. The product is EMF in the visible light spectrum of 400–700 nm.
Technically u can pulse DC & achieve EM waves around conductor 2. As it's acting like AC sine wave in a way. The early inductive railway mobile phone/telegraph in 1884 used this method. Invented by a Aborigine man living in Cincinnati Ohio (USA) named Granville Woods.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Spookysr Optical cables transmit energy using photons, and therefore do not require the movement of electrons. Since energy is not transmitted by moving electrons, there is no current flow. AC/DC cannot be applied here since the terms describe the flow of current. Everything is about energy transmission, and what the media of transmission.
Nomoreidsleft 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - True but the laser pump exciter does use moving electrons & conventional current. However, the lasing effect is moving photons going back and forth in a electron rich media (i.e. ruby crystal, etc.) with two mirrors or reflectors. One 100% reflector and the exit portal partially reflective. The product is extremely coherent single wavelength light. However, the COIL is another thing altogether. It uses oxygen and iodine to excite the laser. Sounds like a jet engine when fired.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - Oh... and common Hydrogen Peroxide!
Also check into the CO2 laser. Another fascinating gadget.
The Israelis have one called mobile THEL that uses deuterium fluoride - also developed by TRW (Now Northrup Grumman). Why? I know Israel supposedly shelved it recently - until this year. But if they aren't going to be shooting down Qassam & Katyusha missiles what were they going to use it for. It just staggers the imagination thinking of what they call a target rich environment.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@Nomoreidsleft - The COIL is used on our USAF ABL platform out of Colorado. Its an amazing technology with not much documented pathology as to how it was developed by TRW (translation: CIA). The Pentagon (late Lt Col Philip Corso of FTD desk under Lt. Gen. Arthur Trudeau) would have us believe it was the 1947 aliens that gave us LASERs and not Lamb, Retherford, Kastler, Brossel, Maiman, Schawlow, and Townes. I belive Corso but substitute the word "aliens" with NAZIs.
Google: COIL Laser
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - All I know is that my God Yahweh told Noah after the flood we could add meat to our vegan diet. That's good enuf' for me.
I am anti-NWO ever hence Daddy Bush resurrected the phrase from Hitler his personal secret hero. Remember his dad Prescott helped Hitler in so many ways. And he was a US Senator from Connecticut! So I'm on your side on that...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - When you said downloading to my sapphire tablet what did you mean? THAT's what I was talking about. I know it was a diff. posting. It was your words you have said it - not me.
Spookysr 1 year ago
she is fucking dim.
BeamshipsRevenge 1 year ago
@BeamshipsRevenge - Clean up your language and I'll let you post too. Look in your invites please.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Yes I'm scared of robots with machine guns. Here's a real one: /watch?v=hQf0Q0JEdtE
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - You need to go to Computer Sciences Lab with your Biology Professor and have them explain whole thing to you better. Yeah if you pull plug we and computer dies - duh! That was easy.
That does not explain your consciousness or your spirit of life or soul. Human's have a theoretical psychological heuristic method of learning. It changes dynamically w/new environ triggers.
AI computer is limited to its creator's imagination.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Yes I agree with you that thing would be a bad thing to put that where you said... Kinda' reminds me of what those Sodomites wanted to do to those 2 angels that appeared to Lot. Guess what happened next?
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - That was really quite unresponsive if not arguably insane What religion believes what you do? We have a saying here in Southern America "Sambo's version of the bible" Sambo was created by a Brit Helen Bannerman about a little Indian boy. But some racist Yanks changed it to a stupid lil' black slave boy in the 19th cent who got everything wrong.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - You could have said that without the rude words. Your biology professor is OBVIOUSLY an evolutionist! That's my point exactly. I don't trust anything they say as gospel. Read the sentence again it says "...it is THOUGHT..." So it is NOT fact.
Satan doesn't have to spy on you. You say things that are obviously copy & pasted from Wikipedia. I have no prob with that. I like ppl who do their research and can hang with me...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No animals don't "think". Your right about factory-farmed food - its bad due to capitalist greed. Eating little meaty "no see um" things on my veggies and other food is not a prob for me only you. I call it protein. But it makes you a hypocrite...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Not posting that one... But what have I told you that's NOT in the bible? I think you are a bit confused...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Bugs are welcome to live OUTSIDE my home far away from me. But once you cross that no-bug-land line - Its chemical warfare! OK I guess I could use a natural insecticides.
Your house must be full of houseflies and bugs? Hang a clear plastic bag of water near the portal where the flies get in. They are so fearful of the reflections they go the other way. Old Korean restaurant trick.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Well we Americans blame you Europeans for the nasty German Brown Cockroach! LOL
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No not homophobic. I don't condemn the person only the ACT. It's all about INTENTION with God. What did you INTEND to do consciously knowing right from wrong.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No Aaron was his brother (Exodus 6: 20). Pharaoh Ramses (???) could have been ADOPTED-brother not biological like Aaron. Remember Moses' mom Jochebed pulled a fast one to save his life. And she got to raise him as a Hebrew/Egyptian hybrid anyway. God obviously protected the little basket from Nile crocs!
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - I didn't care for Freud's hypocritical viewpoint of homosexuality. I think he may have been one himself. (i.e anal retentiveness, cigars, etc.)
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - (Sigh) Your hopeless... Wikipedia Ginkgo Biloba and read the "In dementia" part about Alzheimer's disease.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Godly perfection to me means "without flaw". Jesus (Adam & Eve too) had a very aggressive auto immune system and could not die from anything toxic even without God's help. He was so perfect. His body was working at peek efficiency . He fasted and didn't get hungry until 40 days into it.
Paul wasn't perfect like the others but he was protected by Angels from neurotoxins. He was bitten by a highly venomous snake at Malta.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Your so full of it. You'd let mosquitoes bite you and catch West Nile Virus or Equine Encephalitis, or Dengue Fever? You'd let a cockroach stay in your kitchen making THOUSANDS of eggs and not put down some boric acid? Imagine the diseases they carry!
Yes I'm prolly wrong for eating proceesed food - good point. But you have NO clue what may be in a vegan meal. Microscopic "thingys" that have mothers could be on it. You don't know!
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Yes but you read that wrong in Wikipedia. That bacteria thing was just an "evolutionist's" theory of our orgins. mtDNA comes from your organelles, a sub unit of one of your cells. It was CREATED by God...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - You are being disingenuous. You NEVER killed a bug or ate something that had a mother or a head?
OK what if you open the door and natural SUNLIGHT was the illumination source for the bug? Hey wait who created the lightbulb? You think Thomas Edison didn't have cockroaches in NJ (USA)?
What God-given scripts do we follow? Breathing, eating, sex, and elimination are prolly the only ones. Free will thinking is NOT a script. AI can not display free will nor real emotions YET.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Moses was not a fake. He may have been "slow of tongue" and had his brother do most of his talking to Pharaoh but was no fake. Even Muslims and Egyptologists accept his authenticity.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - I dunno' you'll have to find it. You smugly alluded to it in another post as "sapphire tablet download"? Don't you remember what you typed only about 60 minutes ago?
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Didn't care for tha movie. I didn't like the analogy to corporate America taking over as that is ALREADY true for globalization. I din't like RoboCop's violence. I did like that other robot ED-209 as it made me fearful. That machine gun & sound effects were amazing!
"Please put down your weapon! You have 20 secs to comply! (blast)"
/watch?v=6MrmUBrT2p4
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - but in your analogy you still have to give them a "script" to follow. If you where a REAL computer programmer you would know that AI is NOTHING like human intelligence. AI is nothing but tested scripts that are called up as a subroutine based on different external stimulae. WE ARE DIFFERENT. We learn differently. We are a little less than the angels. Hebrews 2: 7
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Try telling that to a cockroach who runs away in fear of the bigfoot godlike creature who just turned on the light! LOL
No not EVOLUTION it was CREATED by Yahweh (God) and is obvious b/c overall complexity and apparently designed architecture to life and universe is so "in your face" to outweigh chaotic godless natural selection.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Try reading Genesis again. You got it all wrong...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - "no you aren't like gods to bugs and animals"
Oh really? When's the last time you had a hamburger at McDonalds or crushed a pesky bug in your kitchen? Yes we are VENGEFUL god's to them. But they don't care as they are NOT free moral agents and ARE quasi-robots. I think Buddhists won't kill anything (except maybe germs). LOL
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - mitochondrial DNA is used to test for relationship of humans to one another through the mom's mtDNA (in a database). That's how the National Geographic Genographics program via Dr. Spencer Wells of Harvard U works. Look it up!
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Chk YOUR facts. Google the Maidenhair Tree (living fossil). Its the Ginkgo Biloba tree mainly grown Near East but popular in UK too. The LEAVES are ONLY part of tree we imperfect ppl can tolerate. However, when ripe, displays ATTRACTIVE almost GOLDEN color fruit which are HIGHLY toxic but full of antioxidants.
Yes it does do as you say but it also impacts mental confusion too.
This story is just Spooky's SIDEBAR and nothing to do with bible.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Freud was a Fraud IMO.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - What "white powder gold"?
The last paragraph of what I was replying too. You need to use the link below "View All 1,833 comments" to get your threading in sync.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Granted... but but John said to test ppl who say this or say that: 1 John 4: 1-3 - Have I once told you anything bad or not claimed Jesus Christ as the Son of God and redeemer for Adam' (man's) sin? Jesus is my exemplar and rabbi. However, I worship the same God he does not directly him. When I pray to his/my God I end it in Jesus' name Amen (let it be).
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - OOPS! You screwed up TARD! You answered for Random didn't you (Freudian)?
Re: your last paragraph: I really don't know if that's true or not. I mean there's historical and anecdotal evidence to support that theory of yours. But your right I do have to be careful to TEST/FILTER that for obvious reasons.
See Psalms 97: 11 and Proverbs 4: 18. But as you can clearly see by my many grammatical errors and other faux pas I am hardly infallible.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Again (for the umpteenth time) we were NOT created as robots with AI. We were created as free moral agents with REAL intelligence only second to the angels as Paul says in book of Hebrews. We are like gods to lower-life forms like animals & bugs.
And AGAIN the danger was only in Adam's MIND! His disobedience was the danger. There was not ONE thing in the garden that was dangerous. That's prolly why Yahweh installed the pre-Satan good angel (cherub) there.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - Moses said "embarrassed" but that was just his modern take on it. They prolly thought it was really sexual and where confused about it since they didn't have coitus until AFTER they were kicked out.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - The bible does not answer that. My theory is that KNOWLEDGE was already IMPLANTED from day 1. I think oxidation can be used to block certain higher order thought processes. A MASSIVE shot of antioxidants can drop that veil as can be seen in the ginkgo biloba tree fruit which IS poisonous to us but they were perfect.
Just a theory!!!
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - I admit by me using YouTube shorthand I amy be doing a disservice to other readers. Can't be helped as YT really sucks. But with a little self-bible study with bible aids EVEN YOU will get it. I just hope you pray on it and get the truth before its too late.
Your last paragraph would be a typical statement Satan would use on Jesus. Like when Satan took Jesus to that high-place and offered him world govts of the time. What did JC tell him? Same applies here...
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No - I thought I clearly said why. His "special knowledge" of all things metaphysical. Are you even listening?
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - No Moses didn't mention Michael as he was never formerly introduced even though that's who he met and kinda' saw on Mt. Sinai during the 10 Commandment thing?
No the writer who says that was John when he said "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
He was refering to Jesus' pre-human existence as Michael the Archangel. Arguably Michael was God'd mouthpiece from Adam's sin down to Jesus' earthly mission.
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER - You just aren't listening are you. The Tree of Knowledge posed NO DANGER whatsoever! It was the ACT of disobedience of EATING from it. The fruit was FINE as it gave them EARLY (too soon) knowledge (or clear thinking as antioxidants would do).
Spookysr 1 year ago
@TARDEDCHANNELCOPIER OK not approving that one Tard. You are slipping back into your Random mode?
Spookysr 1 year ago
what this one,
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