@JediMasterOW It's a skill you can get now called Fusion bolt. Go the the Mabinogi wiki and you'll see it. They added it months ago, the ability to fuse without a friend.
@JediMasterOW Yep. All you need is to Fusion Bolt with someone else once, then you have it. So I guess you still need to know it, but everyone will just youtube or Wiki it.
@JediMasterOW Uhm, no, it's very easy. First of all who knows if we're on the same server, and second of all you can just ask someone randomly around town in Mabinogi to fuse with you. It's fairly easy.
@XRozelX Well I was thinking about it last night and the problem is how are we gonna fusion at like the same time? Should I go 3 2 1 go! and the other person or me might be too early or late so i think its hard. I'm Tarlach server btw.
@JediMasterOW I'm in Ruairi :p Anyways, just say "When this chat box goes away, cast". That's what I do and it has worked well. It's easier then 1 2 3 for some reason.
no offence but that isnt very powerful actually yea i see the date im just want to point out that when both ppl have higher ranks of the spell it hits alot more and firebolt and lightning dont do the most dmg even in the video it didnt ice and lightning does yet again no offence i just wanted to point this out so ppl who are just looking at clips from this game thinking about playing will know something
XD The ice part of ice lightning looks like laser beams XP And the spell fusion animations all look so awesome :O IF only there was a way to fuse alone :3
Because armor isn't really too much of a necessity. Most early game players go for the low HP build. Mabinogi combat is mostly learning from mistakes.... and Windmill.
If you think about it, it's faster to just fight then take the time to set all of it up. Unless it happens by chance.
Only exception would be if low-levels were trying to take on a strong dungeon, but even in that case, they probably couldn't afford the special Staffs.
The special staffs? Those are modded wands lol. Wands are easy to obtain considering all the places you could get them like exploration, housing, dunbarton shops, and some monsters.
Also, I said a party of mages. Now while most mages do have a backup fighting style, bolt casting with their wand would be their main offense. If they just happen to be of different elements, fusion would happen a lot.
you know if somone with rank 1 fire and another person with rank F ice it basicly incresses firs attak like 10 points and its 5 rank 1 fires. but if they have rank 1 ice. i dont know the correct incress but its really good. rank dose matter here to. and each player gets diffrent dmg from there own bolt spell. still working on finding out the fine details.
OK dude ive already tamperd with all of the fusion magic the fire lighting is one of hte best ones if done right. fire lighting is basicly a lightning effect of firebolt. if charged fully and hit with vary close mods you can hit up to 5 of thim at once with 1 firebolt. its basicly a ice fire but all at once. =.=
Here's the thing, there's already advanced magic. Thunder and Fireball and fulfill that role perfectly (massive AoE knockback) and you can do it by yourself. So Fire/Lightning Bolt will become obsolete.
However, there is no skill in the game that can rotate a knockback skill like Fire/Ice Bolt. There is no skill in the game that can rotate an AoE skill like Lightning/Ice Bolt.
Therefore, with the existence of advanced spell, Fire/Lightning Bolt is useless.
well if anything with adv magic it would half to be rank 1 thunder for the speed and having hellishy high int. with ice spear self explanatory. and with fireball. still finding somthing where it can do somting good with.
Given the speed of r1 Thunder, it will have about 3 charges before Fire/Lightning can deploy at full power. My r1 Firebolt does around 650, fair enough. r1 Thunder deals (SD and balance calculated) 1236.2 damage with all charges HOWEVER, this does not take into the account of Thunder's absurdly high critical rate which ignores protection.
all adv spells egnore protection you do now that. and with the thunder it also takes a hellishly amount of mp to. you need eather alot of mp pots or mana elixers.
Yes I know that, but not magic fusion or basic bolts. And really, MP usage for advanced spells isn't as bad as you think.
For magic fusion, the Firebolt caster uses 30 MP at r1. The LB caster uses 25 MP at r1. However, the Thunder caster (given the situation above) will use 88.6 MP with 3 charges. It uses a little more, 55 total as to the 88.6, but it deals much more and has higher potential damage (3000 at r1 with all charges).
well my mage has rank A and it takes like 135 mp in total. ill ask my freind as soon as i can get on. for the last 24 hours the house channal has bin down and im stuck in there
Well, I stopped playing Mabi before Pioneers of Iria came out since I got bored of the game. I had a really nice Ice mage, used spirit wands and stuff... But I still see, even using combined magic, WM kicks ass.
I've got a question about magic fusion in general. Do you have to time each charge correctly, or just the first one if you want to stack 5 charges of the wanted fusion?
Yes you do. At least, they have to start at relatively the same time so let the slower charger cast first. And you do have to charge each charge together otherwise it will revert back to the bolt spell you were casting.
Ice/LB is by far the most useful, it has great crowd control, and spreads the moderate damage it does across multiple enemies. That's 10 charges of spread damage between the two players.
(Also please note the fact that I don't see where anyone said Ice/LB was high damage, just the most useful.)
Me and a friend did Rundal with Ice and Fire And Ice and Thunder
LilMabinogiGal 7 months ago
Erm which is better Mabinogi NA or Mabinogi EU for non payers?pls tell me
Kexdon 8 months ago
So sad that now it's so easy to do. It's no longer a special and cool skill :P They made it too obvious and made it possible without a friend!
XRozelX 10 months ago
@XRozelX how? Tell me.
JediMasterOW 8 months ago
@JediMasterOW It's a skill you can get now called Fusion bolt. Go the the Mabinogi wiki and you'll see it. They added it months ago, the ability to fuse without a friend.
XRozelX 8 months ago
@XRozelX ahhh.Is it easy to get?
JediMasterOW 8 months ago
@JediMasterOW Yep. All you need is to Fusion Bolt with someone else once, then you have it. So I guess you still need to know it, but everyone will just youtube or Wiki it.
XRozelX 8 months ago
@XRozelX ahh
so its hard
I don't know who I'll be able to fusion at the same time.Too hard.You wanna fusion with me by any chance?
JediMasterOW 8 months ago
@JediMasterOW Uhm, no, it's very easy. First of all who knows if we're on the same server, and second of all you can just ask someone randomly around town in Mabinogi to fuse with you. It's fairly easy.
XRozelX 8 months ago
@XRozelX Well I was thinking about it last night and the problem is how are we gonna fusion at like the same time? Should I go 3 2 1 go! and the other person or me might be too early or late so i think its hard. I'm Tarlach server btw.
JediMasterOW 8 months ago
@JediMasterOW I'm in Ruairi :p Anyways, just say "When this chat box goes away, cast". That's what I do and it has worked well. It's easier then 1 2 3 for some reason.
XRozelX 8 months ago
@XRozelX dough k,
JediMasterOW 8 months ago
Where did u learn the skill Magic Fusion? If u know about it please tell me every single detail about it
Yugi6020 1 year ago
@Yugi6020 It's not a learnable skill, it's inherent (like dual wielding).
Kreiios 1 year ago
yea but at the end you were using it on metal skeletons, which are much tougher than the dogs and mimics, and you almost took 2 down
roy587 1 year ago
my friend was doing this alone...how did he do it? someone plz respond
thrashburn142 1 year ago
@thrashburn142
Well if he did it in the NA server then I'm not too sure.
However, in the foreign servers, there's a skill that allows you to solo fuse.
mfs123 1 year ago
@mfs123 (4 months later)
Yeah. It's called Fusion Bolt (or Bolt Composer in foreign servers).
seg162 1 year ago
@mfs123 on NA servers you can fuse solo
deathnote14464 2 months ago
Yeah, this worked fine - Till the fucking durability dropped to 7/11 after a short dungeon run. Greedy chink Nexon.
Fajjani 1 year ago
no offence but that isnt very powerful actually yea i see the date im just want to point out that when both ppl have higher ranks of the spell it hits alot more and firebolt and lightning dont do the most dmg even in the video it didnt ice and lightning does yet again no offence i just wanted to point this out so ppl who are just looking at clips from this game thinking about playing will know something
jking560 1 year ago
wuts ur icebolt rank?
Starfox513 1 year ago
@Starfox513
On that character, rank 9. On my main, rank 1.
mfs123 1 year ago
XD The ice part of ice lightning looks like laser beams XP And the spell fusion animations all look so awesome :O IF only there was a way to fuse alone :3
aPatheticPoeticx 1 year ago
@aPatheticPoeticx
Dual wielding wands would be sweet.
mfs123 1 year ago
@mfs123 Hell yeah. Charge 5 charges of two different spells at once! :O
aPatheticPoeticx 1 year ago
@aPatheticPoeticx
I'd probably never touch advanced magic ever again. Ice Lightning is an amazing substitute.
mfs123 1 year ago
@aPatheticPoeticx In G13 there is gonna be one.
EpicSugar 1 year ago
@aPatheticPoeticx 2 Words: Generation Thirteen
Another 2 words: Bolt Composer.
seg162 1 year ago
i wish i could get more into mabinogi. why does armor cost so much?
xoyv 1 year ago
@xoyv
Because armor isn't really too much of a necessity. Most early game players go for the low HP build. Mabinogi combat is mostly learning from mistakes.... and Windmill.
mfs123 1 year ago
@mfs123 I definetly agree with the Windmill part.
SuperFrancoco 1 year ago
most mages are warrior mages so u will not have worry much if your only a mage
dog74586 2 years ago
The time it took you to use that fusion magic properly, a normal mage could have probably killed them already.
"fuked up" isn't a very accurate way to describe what you did.
A range-user could, if I'm interpretting it right, hunt lizards and any other monster just as effectively.
So could someone using magic on their own, or melee well.
Lastly, you're clearly not a very literate person, and the worst possible kind of person to rely on for evidence.
mega17 2 years ago
Dude, why you gotta make the kid realize he's stupid? :I
JeanPlaisance 2 years ago
First cause it's a good ego boost.
Second cause the truth rocks
Third cause it's the sweet idea of knowing he'll understand and still stay stupid. :)
mega17 2 years ago
my magnum shot can kill them in one hit so i dont need fusion magic XD
senseihieu 2 years ago
Doesn't seem too useful. Flashy though.
mega17 2 years ago
It's useful when you're a party of mages. Otherwise, you won't see it often.
finflame13 2 years ago
@finflame13:
If you think about it, it's faster to just fight then take the time to set all of it up. Unless it happens by chance.
Only exception would be if low-levels were trying to take on a strong dungeon, but even in that case, they probably couldn't afford the special Staffs.
mega17 2 years ago
The special staffs? Those are modded wands lol. Wands are easy to obtain considering all the places you could get them like exploration, housing, dunbarton shops, and some monsters.
Also, I said a party of mages. Now while most mages do have a backup fighting style, bolt casting with their wand would be their main offense. If they just happen to be of different elements, fusion would happen a lot.
finflame13 2 years ago
....0.0 wait nexon know about magic fusion omg then this is awesome
dog74586 2 years ago
hey can't you do this on other servers?
dog74586 2 years ago
what server you play on? im trying to teach 2 of my friends about fusion magic, except i dont have a wand, but they do
Takeshi607 2 years ago
Mari
mfs123 2 years ago
ok nvm i play on tarlach
Takeshi607 2 years ago
i have a question dose this work on the new wands?
dog74586 2 years ago
plz answer this can u do this with adv magic?
DarkHollowWithin 2 years ago
unfortunately not
mfs123 2 years ago
LOL that was really quick of a response xD
DarkHollowWithin 2 years ago
That "plz" was really demanding. I was so afraid.
mfs123 2 years ago
;P LOL
DarkHollowWithin 2 years ago
well ty i appreciate to see someone who gives about their subs also ty for this vid tips :3
DarkHollowWithin 2 years ago
I do the best I can.
mfs123 2 years ago
What the, when did this get implemented?! O_O
ultracarl 2 years ago
Back when Irinids came out.
Junodavidw 2 years ago
That font looks awfully sexy too.
ThyLore 2 years ago
Wow this is sexy
iTzNoko 2 years ago
lol @ night.
THEarurunata 2 years ago
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InterExterDestiNix 2 years ago
(This is Gem)
I know it's old, but fusion magic's damage depends solely on the LEVELS of the caster, not on rank or int. Rank only influences charge time, really.
And Thunder's MP cost never goes up. I have r5 thunder and it's still the same.
Trahiz 2 years ago
sorry for double.
you know if somone with rank 1 fire and another person with rank F ice it basicly incresses firs attak like 10 points and its 5 rank 1 fires. but if they have rank 1 ice. i dont know the correct incress but its really good. rank dose matter here to. and each player gets diffrent dmg from there own bolt spell. still working on finding out the fine details.
drantino 2 years ago
OK dude ive already tamperd with all of the fusion magic the fire lighting is one of hte best ones if done right. fire lighting is basicly a lightning effect of firebolt. if charged fully and hit with vary close mods you can hit up to 5 of thim at once with 1 firebolt. its basicly a ice fire but all at once. =.=
drantino 2 years ago
Here's the thing, there's already advanced magic. Thunder and Fireball and fulfill that role perfectly (massive AoE knockback) and you can do it by yourself. So Fire/Lightning Bolt will become obsolete.
However, there is no skill in the game that can rotate a knockback skill like Fire/Ice Bolt. There is no skill in the game that can rotate an AoE skill like Lightning/Ice Bolt.
Therefore, with the existence of advanced spell, Fire/Lightning Bolt is useless.
mfs123 2 years ago
well if anything with adv magic it would half to be rank 1 thunder for the speed and having hellishy high int. with ice spear self explanatory. and with fireball. still finding somthing where it can do somting good with.
drantino 2 years ago
Given the speed of r1 Thunder, it will have about 3 charges before Fire/Lightning can deploy at full power. My r1 Firebolt does around 650, fair enough. r1 Thunder deals (SD and balance calculated) 1236.2 damage with all charges HOWEVER, this does not take into the account of Thunder's absurdly high critical rate which ignores protection.
Fireball is best for wiping out waves in Peaca.
mfs123 2 years ago
all adv spells egnore protection you do now that. and with the thunder it also takes a hellishly amount of mp to. you need eather alot of mp pots or mana elixers.
drantino 2 years ago
Yes I know that, but not magic fusion or basic bolts. And really, MP usage for advanced spells isn't as bad as you think.
For magic fusion, the Firebolt caster uses 30 MP at r1. The LB caster uses 25 MP at r1. However, the Thunder caster (given the situation above) will use 88.6 MP with 3 charges. It uses a little more, 55 total as to the 88.6, but it deals much more and has higher potential damage (3000 at r1 with all charges).
Quality over quantity.
mfs123 2 years ago
ya on one thing that i know for a fact that wiki hasent yet put in is that the mp incresses over ranking for thunder T.T
drantino 2 years ago
I doubt it's great. With 5 charges it cannot surpass Fireball's 125 MP.
mfs123 2 years ago
well my mage has rank A and it takes like 135 mp in total. ill ask my freind as soon as i can get on. for the last 24 hours the house channal has bin down and im stuck in there
drantino 2 years ago
My elf has r9 and uses barely over 100 lol. Then again I have a -MP use Wand.
mfs123 2 years ago
well if ya tell me what the -% is i can give ya a small estimet
drantino 2 years ago
-16%
Therefore
x - .16x = 100
119.04
Still not bad with the potential damage.
mfs123 2 years ago
thats 16% of 100 not of the real # we want
drantino 2 years ago
my bad sorry cinda just woke up
drantino 2 years ago
you have know idea how much mp i use for my rank 5 firebolt D: i use it so much my character chuggs mp 100 pots down like its water T_T
leeron111 2 years ago 2
The lighting + icebolt looked awsome!
UnkownPeople1 2 years ago
what genaration is this?
Dragonforce963 2 years ago
End of G6
mfs123 2 years ago
Thats awesome thx for putting the vid up
HIEDGNER 2 years ago
Well, I stopped playing Mabi before Pioneers of Iria came out since I got bored of the game. I had a really nice Ice mage, used spirit wands and stuff... But I still see, even using combined magic, WM kicks ass.
Gentrone 2 years ago
Would go much faster if you both had the same number of chain-casting on each wand o.0 did you try upgrading it for that?
iCookieThief 2 years ago
Nope, I tried. Any chain casting or ego wand will make magic fusion impossible regardless if they have the same chain added.
mfs123 2 years ago
Do upgrades for balance kill fusion?
fruitnogi 2 years ago
Nope. Only Chain Casting Upgrades do.
mfs123 2 years ago
do u need a wand?
kongregateman5 2 years ago
yes
mfs123 2 years ago
I've got a question about magic fusion in general. Do you have to time each charge correctly, or just the first one if you want to stack 5 charges of the wanted fusion?
winterfire567 2 years ago
Yes you do. At least, they have to start at relatively the same time so let the slower charger cast first. And you do have to charge each charge together otherwise it will revert back to the bolt spell you were casting.
mfs123 2 years ago
Fire/Ice is pretty convenient for Bosses that got level 2 Mana Reflector, for the ones that get knocked back of course by firebolt.
I've gotten a party to spam this on a Golem on Ciar Adv. All I got to say, Magic Fusion is pretty usefull as hell.
AZNPINOY345 2 years ago
you have no proof you were the first -.-
lilriku123 2 years ago
People were spamming spell fusion parties after Gem's large run. Proof enough for at the least Mari, and at the very least, the west.
mfs123 2 years ago
I fused as soon as the update came out :o
Many people have spread this news.... my guild knew about it as soon as update came out as well.
DannyTakesRoids 2 years ago
There are other servers you know... You guys might not be the 1st to have done this. ._.
evolutionddr 2 years ago
Regardless, we were the first to spread the news. Therefore recorded.
mfs123 2 years ago
I guess you could say you were the first to post a youtube video. There's no lieing in that o .o
evolutionddr 2 years ago
-3- very informative thank you very much, I now need to buy wands now...
enixfire 2 years ago
i cant get my ice thunder to get passed 3 lol, does the ranks matter casye i was just testing it out, ohh yer can you do three way?
ay0nman 2 years ago
Rank does not matter, only calculated int. And no 3 way.
mfs123 2 years ago
Nice job, guys. <3
DerettoEevee 2 years ago
Pros: You labelled everything well.
Cons: You cant consider 100 dmg Ice/Lbolt to be high dmg WHEN YOUR ONLY DOING 100 DMG.
I'm sickened when i see weak magic, considering i have 360 int and r1 all magic except adv magic :P (no offense XD)
Afromagnum1 2 years ago
Lol that's not my main. My elf has a good 220 int.
However, if you do compare it to my human's 40 damage icebolt, yeah pretty much higher by 2.2 times.
mfs123 2 years ago
Ice/LB is by far the most useful, it has great crowd control, and spreads the moderate damage it does across multiple enemies. That's 10 charges of spread damage between the two players.
(Also please note the fact that I don't see where anyone said Ice/LB was high damage, just the most useful.)
MidknightDawn 2 years ago
Firebolt/Lighitngbolt should be used for mobs with really high HP.
It isn't completly useless just its not needed as often as the other 2 combos.
15bob51 2 years ago
>First Spell Fusers
Don't think so
Someasianguy 2 years ago
Um yes
mfs123 2 years ago
Delusional
Someasianguy 2 years ago
Envious
mfs123 2 years ago
Clearly
Someasianguy 2 years ago
Indeed
mfs123 2 years ago
Good day sir
darkalert224 2 years ago
how do you know they were the first? i had friends doing it right when they finished maintainence too. o_o
hanhuijun 2 years ago
Us too, my friend. Well regardless, we were the one's that made it known.... well Gem was anyways.
mfs123 2 years ago
Mfs123 yo firebolt+ lighting isnt useless. its usless againtys mobs but one on one it destroys u can reach over 1k dmg with full charge
Duntime 2 years ago
True, but I can hit well above 200 damage per Ice/Fire with 90 int. With all five charges, it does 1k even and its spammable and used more practical.
mfs123 2 years ago
Nice job discovering it~. :D
Moonflow<3
Eternalty128 2 years ago
This is sooooo cool =3 I'mma try this out later
AznFireFox 2 years ago