naa the rapture is real god SAID HE WILL COME FOR HIS PEOPLE. First, "as a thief in the night" . . . for those who waited in faith 2nd Second, "every eye shall see" . . . with those who waited in faith
Why would Jesus says behold I come as a thief in the night.In rev 19 He comes with a rod of iron.Jacob's trouble is what God calls the trib in isiah.Thats why we need to pray,read the KJV everyday and repent so we dont get caught up in theory.The Bible needs to be our final authority.Proove me wrong with scriptures from the KJV about us getting left for Jacobs trouble.
the govt can have the guns but if they take my Bible, they'le have to take me.
has anybody ever realized that, Believers are being percecuted everyday!! how can you say PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE, Yeshua will rapture his saints when pleases. and when he does it will be on a future Rosh Hashanna (Yom Teruah). also known as feast of trumpets. which day or hour on Rosh Hashana? no man knows becasue its a 48 hour period from new moon to thin crecent.
Christians that would pass through the GREAT TRIBULATION are those who repented unto Christ "too late" after the rapture has occurred. God will use the antichrist to unleash His wrath upon the whole Earth. However b/4 the rapture occur, every man/woman on Earth will be aware of the Name & saving grace of Jesus Christ (as well as ample opportunities to repent unto God), that no man may have any excuse on earth to "justifiably" accuse God of ignorance or negligence. but alas not all will repent.
Mr. Duduman preacher, what you mean that "pre-trib. rapture is wrong doctrine? What did Jesus Christ mean when He said His coming will be like unto that of Noah & Lot? Tell me if Noah & Lot (both righteous b/4 God) partook of the deadly watery & fiery wrath of God respectively. Were both not Noah & Lot taken out of the way by God BEFORE God's judgement occurred? Christians go through persecutions; the latter which pales into insignificance compared with the GREAT TRIBULATION to come in future.
@7olusegun Thats why I wont give the other bibles the time or day.He said a thief in the night and in rev 19 He comes in glory.Thes 4;14-18 says plain as day about the rapture.If we got left behind and one saved person took that mark it would make God a liar.Thats why the Bible has got to be the final authority.Satan is just using the lose your salvation or your going thru Jacobs trouble.Thats right the tribulation is mainly to get the Jews to accept Jesus as the messiah.
@TheKJVforever Yep that's correct. Israel will go through the great tribulation simply b'cos they rejected the Messiah, Jesus, as their God & Lord. God would have to use the beast antichrist (Assyrian) to flog them properly, to make them cry unto Him & find Him at the tribulation ending. Also many people will repent "too late" after the rapture, to become Christians & would also have to pass through the antichrist's wrath. Both (Jews & Christians) will experience the "Jacob's troubles". Too bad!
Know the difference between the Tribulation and God's Wrath. The Tribulation is NOT God's Wrath. The Wrath is the fire that burns up the Earth on the day that Jesus returns.
My question is, where in the bible does Jesus "specifically" say we will be raptured?
By the way, Noah was told to build the boat and it was because of Noah's obedience to God that he/ his family were saved. God/ Yaweh has told me to prepare me , I have been obedient in my/our preparation.
Great judgment is coming, no doubt.Only those who have prepared spiritually will make it through...no fear, just the truth. America has been living in la la land/disobedience for a long time. Hosea4/6
Noah and his family being saved in the ark in the OT was symbolic of the rapture which is yet to take place.I don't see how anyone can question the veracity of a rapture in Christendom and to even suggest it not taking place before the proposed tribulation eliminates the purpose entirely.One thing is undeniable and that is the fact that it will take place before things get unbearably bad on earth.
@produde2008 God did not take Noah out of the Earth. He gave him the plans for the ark. The ark was on Earth while the flood took place around it. This is the same thing that will happen in the end. The Church will still be here, but protected "[taken into the desert on the wings of eagles]". If they were not here, who would teach them about Jesus? The Bibles left behind??? I'm pretty sure that Bibles will be outlawed, and not easily accessible.
@genescott0001 The purpose of the tribulation is for God to bring Israel back to Himself as a nation, not for Christians who have already accepted Him.What would be the purpose of a rapture at the end of the tribulation, there would be none because Christ will be returning at that time.Christians are made righteous through the blood, not through tribulation.Tribulation is for those who need correction and reproof.We are receiving that NOW however Israel still won't recognize Jesus as Messiah.
@genescott0001 Our day to day lives we are living at this very moment are our time of tribulation and trials.We won't need to be here during the tribulation and if we were we would be thoroughly killed anyway.God will use repentant martyrs who accept Christ during the tribulation to be tokens and witnesses, along with Elijah and Enoch (or so it's believed as they never saw death), to warn of coming judgment and proclaim salvation.The world will be so full of wickedness we couldn't stand.
@produde2008 So then, who are the Saints that lose their heads during the Tribulation??? Isn't that an oxymoron? A Saint is one that is saved by the blood. If the Christians are gone, who tells of Jesus? When the angel stands on the land and on the sea and prclaims "It is finished", (this is before Jesus returns), the books are opened, the judgement has passed, who else gets saved? What is the point?
@genescott0001 The saints your refering to are those who reject the anti-christ system and die as martyrs for Christ, they accept Him but now must pay with their lives for their acceptance because the anti-christ will have it no other way.In his eyes he is to be worshipped as god.The judgment has passed scripture is speaking of plagues and famines which God will send to engulf the Earth during the tribulation, Revelations also tells us that men will run to the hills and cry out for death.
@genescott0001 They will cry out for death...but yet refuse to repent because that's how wicked, desolate and hardened their hearts have become.So ask yourself this, if plagues, famines and war won't turn them to God what good to them would we be? Reminds me of a scripture by the Prophet Jeremiah found in Jer. 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?".And remember Jesus said "As in the days of Noah" and Noah didn't win many converts.
@genescott0001 Finally, as a last effort by God to reach the unrepentant, Revelations tells us that He will send an angel across the heavens to proclaim the gospel and those remaining will have a final chance to accept.If they refuse then they have chosen to embrace judgment upon Christ's return to Earth.
So you see, I feel the one thing Brother Stan fails to realize here is the degree of wickedness in the hearts of mankind,either way one can be saved whether they believe the rapture or not.
@produde2008 Perhaps you can help me understand where the idea that these are the people who accept Christ AFTER the Rapture has happened??? Logistically, how would these people accept and grow? Who is there to guide? Is God still working in the world after the Church is gone? Why are these "Saints" punished, but not the backsliding Church who said a little prayer and never acted in faith?
@genescott0001 They won't grow much as far as a walk with Christ in the flesh is concerned, they won't need to because salvation through acceptance will be enough.These Christian martyrs will only be a testimony in death to others, maybe they will be given an opportunity by the proud and blasphemous anti-christ to say their final words, God only knows that for sure.God will still be working but through judgments because the heart of men will be turned away from God by means of afflictions.
@genescott0001 Remember that In the Exodus Pharoah's heart was hardened by rejection of truth.The same thing will be happening during the tribulation of Revelations.God will have to resort to many judgments in an attempt to break the obstinate heart of a rebellious mankind that has forgotten Him.That will be the testimony, repent or face destruction.And so the saints who die as martyrs during the tribulation die not because of God's punishment but because of man's incessant evil heart.
2nd Part: The backsliden church will be the segment of the body of Christ that has deviated from the true gospel of Jesus Christ.They will have become so destitute, cold and callous in their heart's towards God's intended way that they will most likely embrace the anti-christ with open arms when they see him because they wont know the difference between an imposter and the real Christ.They will be so blind they will be for the anti-christ and his world system.Their will be exceptions though.
Still amazes me that people with little understanding of scripture will call themselves "teachers" and "prophets"... Someone who doesn't distinguish from tribulation of this life by the god of this world, from "the coming wrath" of God's judgment. Please see bcrevolution.ca/rapture_facts.htm
Could it not be that as a watchman that you piped a note not in tune with the scriptures? Getting all kinds of people revved up over nothing? In other words-proclaimingyouurself to be a watchman and falsely by your own accounts sounding the alarm over something that should have not been sounded? In pother words-whenyou cause many to be so worrisome about eventsthat did nothing-perhaps seeing you as a fake-a wana be?
@TheKJVberean haha I never looked at the elders as being those raptured. I was always like "whats with the 24 old guys?" lol but Why would it use the number 24 cuz it surely isnt a literal statistic?
@TheKJVberean As I read, it does say "pray to be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass," so I'm rethinking things now...hmmm I guess I didn't understand this verse until now but maybe the things stated are all apart of the great tribulation....that would make sense lol...sorry if I offended you
@TheKJVberean If you could prove to me with solid, sound, and accurate support from scripture that Jesus will rapture His bride before the great tribulation and how we are unworthy if we do not believe in this "pre trib rapture" because luke 21 clearly says we will be delivered unto persecution for a testimony of our faith.
@superlynn27 What are u reading? The church will not be tested by God's wrath. Israel n unbelievers will be tested. The real church already believe and trust in God. Not everyone is of the church. Romans 8:1, There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus. If we have to be tested by God's wrath, then what Christ did on the cross wasn't enough. He said , it is finished. How about those who died without going through? They in hell? Acts 2:38 God's plan.
@rossdaboss1959 IS THE CHURCH FOLLOWING GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS? SOME JEWS ARE FOLLOWING GOD'S LAW,BUT DO NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST, SOME OF US BELIEVE IN CHRIST BUT DO NOT FOLLOW ALL OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS. THE CHURCH WILL BE SAVED FROM GOD'S WRATH,BUT NOT THE GT TRIBULAION.THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT EVENTS. READ THE WORD OF GOD NOT WHAT MAN TELLS YOU.
@superlynn27 The real church is doing better than that. We have love one for another. Trying to follow the ten commandment is not salvation. No u can't do whatever u want. U not reading. Galatians 2:16-21. 3rd chapter. Have u obeyed Acts 2:38 yet? Salvation for our time now? Israel has one more week of years to fulfill prophecy. The 7 years tribulation is allotted to them n unbelievers. If not, get filled with the Holy Ghost, take on his name through water baptism. Repent.
@rossdaboss1959 the church is not doing good..They are not loving one another,why?because they do the things of this world..There's got o be a law that separate God's people from the rest of the world and that is God's commandments..The world follow only the law of the State,but we must follow God's law,that includes to love one another.The church is not acting like the book of Acts say,,read and compare..Only 3 1/2 of tribulation,not 7
@superlynn27 I probably would agree with u if i didn't know better, but everybody that say they are the church is not. The true church of God is holy, live holy and watching for the Lord. Not these people who are always talking about money n the things of this world. Only God knows who is the real church. Just because u see many people doing wrong who say they are the church, don't mean the church is doing bad. Those doing bad are bad.
@Phnatec123 Will u wake up already. yes a lot of us will be persecuted for our faith. That's already happening today. We don't need the tribulation for that. Don't get that mixed up with GOD"S WRATH. Jesus did it all on the cross for us. If we have to be saved through God's wrath, then what Jesus did on the cross wasn't enough. I would not want to be standing before God on Judgment day stating that it wasn't enough to give his life for us. Read, Pray, ask God to lead u. Acts 2:38.
@rossdaboss1959 For real it don't matter. Ima keep looking up to that eastern sky for Jesus no matter what. Only the true prophets of God have the knowledge of how stuff is really gunna play out. You're right, we are not appointed to wrath, but who knows how bad the suffering for christ will be until His return. Things will only get worst and He's definately calling His children. I do read and pray and I do walk after the Spirit.
@Phnatec123 yes things might get very bad down here before Jesus come for his church, but it won't compare to God's wrath coming down here. It won't be God's wrath that we will have to worry about. Man's wrath. Paul stated to comfort one another. U can't comfort anybody by telling them they have to go through God's wrath. We can't get God's wrath mixed up with man's wrath. God bless you! I just hope we all be ready when he comes. Acts 2:38 is still God's plan of salvation.
@rossdaboss1959 I may be the least of His disciples but I am His, brother. I never once said what Jesus did wasn't enough. What Jesus did was an act of Perfect love, grace, and mercy that busted through the realm of eternity. I am reconciled back to God for Jesus Christ's perfect act of grace and now that I know God and now that I know He is with me I will fear no evil, and if He is with me, then whom shall I fear?
@Phnatec123 Love never fails is right, but love is not salvation. A person can love everybody, but will that save him? One needs to have a personal relationship with God. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying i'm better than anybody. I'm just saying what's true according to the word of God. People are trying to come the way they feel they want to, but what way do the Bible show to come from Pentecost and onward? We talking about eternity, there's no room for mistakes. U can feel God's presence.
@rossdaboss1959 God is love. God is salvation. Jesus is our mediator and our Lord and Savior reconciling us Back to God. Amen. Amen. God bless you too and you're right. It was through faith in the Word from the beginning. Once a lost soul but through faith we repented were babtised in the name of Jesus as The living Son of God for the remission of sins because we TRULY believed in our HEART and trusted in Jesus as Lord and Savior who died for all and rose again being the first born of the dead
@TheKJVberean Is this love?-->"Most of the church is going to be left behind at the rapture, there'll even be some born again believers left behind, again scripture makes that clear." I see no encouragement in this statement but your own little personal false doctrine
@TheKJVberean Well again it doesn't matter if you believe pre-trib or not. We are to preach the gospel and that He died and rose again and Hes coming back and that we should be ready always. If you are in Christ, you are in Christ. If you are longing for His return at any minute, then thats what matter. Preaching about the rapture is to comfort one another and not to be debated. The lawless man of sin(antichrist) will be revealed before Christs coming and this is during the tribulation I thought
@TheKJVberean Ok well I was only making a point (which you didn't confute and you even agreed with what I said about staying alert), but only the Lord can look on the heart of others. You know not who will ascendeth with the angels or who will be left and to make such a bold claim as that you are placing yourself at the throne of God. You lie if you say you walk in love with that contempt for your fellow siblings in Christ. "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar"
@TheKJVberean The Bible does not say if you deny pretrib you will be left, but if you deny christ. The bible does say that the 144,000 and the numberless multitude come out of the "Great tribulation" and this is after the sixth seal is opened. It also says the gospel will be delivered unto all nations, The sun will be darkened, the moon will turn blood red, and not give its light. I believe it's important to focus on staying alert always without expectation of a pretrib rapture...
@TheKJVberean I LOSE IN GETTING PREPARED FOR THE TRIBULATION! SOME PPL WILL NOT STOCK UP ON MOST NEEDED SUPPLIES BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY WONT BE HERE! ABOUT LIKE THE WISE AND FOOLISH VIRGINS! ONE WAS PREPARED ONE WAS NOT!
It's very telling that ur fighting God's people instead of making a *active* stance against the devil,argue all u like but when the heat fires up all of heaven will see if u betray Christ or not,i'm secure & prepared for the worst,ur irresponsibly not,ur nation is mystery babylon for a reason,& ur clueless,stan uses 200 scriptures in this 2+hr vid proving the pretrib rapture is a lie,watch it,not one diehard pretribber has continued on in the lie after watching,u can be the 1st.
Keep lying to urself,if u trully had the spirit of God in u,there is no way u would be calling him a false teacher,so ur ignorance & lack of discernment is quite evident,ur own accusations judge u & show u to be a tare.
The bible also predicted there would be who don't understand the bible and accuse people who do of being false teachers,your known as accusers of the brethen,and likely those who will fall away because you expected a false rapture that was never promised to save you,the rapture saves no one period,God saves his people during the tribulation the same way he saved the 3 men in the fiery furnace,the lord was in the fiery furnace with the 3 men,he saves us through the storm,but we must clean up.
@TheKJVberean The statement you made saying"The bible predicted there'll be ppl like you asking where is Christ and His coming" proves you don't understand the bible at all,or ur of the enemy and actually trying to decieve,the people the bible was referring to asking where is his return were scoffers,and the passage clearly showed they were asking mockingly,so you reveal yourself to be suspect,so if stan has people like you coming out to attack him,he clearly must be doing what is right by God.
Read ezekial 13 completely and you will clearly see God is against those false teachers,who hunt souls of the righteous,and teach them to fly,this was about doctrine,and you have fallen into a modernday version of this lie,the word rapture is not even in the bible,believe whatever you like but the bible makes it very clear that the true Christ doesn't return until after the 7th trump,the sun actually novas and is out when he returns.
What does the false rapture doctrine teach?,that your gonna fly outta here and escape the tribulation meeting the lord in the air,so why is so much said in the bible by the lord to prepare for the tribulation? especially if he is just gonna fly us outta here?I'm sorry you believe that lie,but you better be strong because your gonna be here buddy,he put in his word not to go with anyone saying we have christ hid here & there or in the secret chambers,and thats for the last days.
You false rapturedoctrine believers can be fool by the strong delusion of 2nd thessalonians2:7-12 false christ & his fallen angels if you like,but the true Christ of God doesn't return until the 7th final trump,no time before.
20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
No ur a false christian,accuser of the brethen,Christians all over the world are being persecuted & killed for their faith,google voice of the martyr's,in sudan africa genocide is occuring recently millions of christians slaughtered,in china right now christians are being slaughtered,where is their rapture sir?,slaughtered soviet christians,american Christians are too good to go through tribulation huh?,watch God sift real from fake Christains in america,I hope u keep your faith.
Is this Jehovah's Witness? I am asking because of the phrase "watchmen". Also, it seems like the first ten minutes is simply licking his wounds over Y2K. There were pre-tribulation ministers who warned about Y2K, I am thinking specifically of Dr. Jack Van Impe, and their ministries survived. Perhaps this man's ministry was in trouble because he set himself up as the answer and not the return of Christ.
Stan I believe you were the one who helped fuel the fires of Y2K. How much money did you make off that? It never happened Stan and you have the audacity to belittle peoples hope in the blessed hope. You need to sit down and be quiet. Get a real job. You are so pathetically prophetically wrong on almost every issue you address. Have you offered refunds since 2000 for the panic you helped to create throughout the body of Christ. If not you are a false teacher. Have you dared to apologize?
@Pilgrim190 I believe he did apologize. He made a mistake, he was wrong. He seemed to have a problem being modest about his mistake,but I beleive his intentions were real. We all know how the problem could have been if the rollover issue were not addressed,but I doubt it was ever an issue. On a side note, I do not currently support Stan for much different reasons, but I do not condem every sermon and lecture on his program because of such.
@StarOfJacob I dont know other believers hearts.. by their fruit ye shall know them. The thief on the cross had no time to prove himself to worthy to God..he simply believed and died.. I can only be worthy by His Spirit and the work the Holy Spirit of God is doing through me. I am unable to make myself worthy. When I received His Holy Spirit, I was bornagain - born spiritually. Before The Holy Spirit came into my heart, i was spiritually dead.I was re-born by His Spirit.
@StarOfJacob just out of curiousity friend, Is Jesus Christ your personal Lord and Saviour? does His Holy Spirit dwell in your heart? if so, what makes it so difficult to understand what Iam saying? or what all believers who Love and accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour are saying? A supernatural change occurs the moment we repent to God for our sins &ask the Lord Jesus to come into our hearts to renew us, change us from the inside out..wash us clean from the inside out.Has this happened to u?
@StarOfJacob G509 (again) 1) from above, from a higher place
a) of things which come from heaven or God
2) from the first, from the beginning, from the very first
3) anew, over again
I understand from this that the moment we repent to God for all our sins and believe Jesus took our deserved punishment for all sin,that Jesus becomes our LORD & SAVIOUR..then that is the very moment His Spirit enters into our hearts and we are BORN AGAIN by His Holy Spirit. This is what has happened to me.
@StarOfJacob John 3 1-7. If Jesus tells us we must be born again to see the Kingdom of God... then i understand Jesus spoke of it and it is biblical. But thanks for all your messages and I have spent quite some time finding out all positions regarding the gathering of the saints and im persuaded by the scriptures,to believe that a pre-trib rapture will occur.Thankfully you and i are saved by the Grace of God and tobe ready at all times and at right standing with God is most important of all. :)
I have always believed there is no rapture, i always knew there is only one coming. But all the chruches preach the rapture...how do you tell them they are wrong? Thanks for your message.
The christian churches in russia expected a rapture to save them right before the communist took over,and as a result they found themselves dying in the gulags,and alot turned atheist after that,but God never promised it,where is the rapture for the christians in sudan africa being slaughtered for their faith even now?so is the american christians better than those christians?nay I say,and the american church is in the exact same deception thinking a rapture is gonna save them.
There is no rapture,Paul is a false prophet. I grew up in church and was in church that night and I knew as a child that nothing would happen.How come a grown man couldn't discern that.There is no pretrib.Yahushua said he will return after the last trump.The last trump is the 7th trumpet in revelations.Read the whole book of revelations and you will clearly see there is no rapture.The title rapture came from a diviner woman and Christians blindly follow.
@ave383 I believe Paul supports a post trib rapture, that the 2nd coming and the rapture are one. If Paul is a false prophet so is Peter (he called Paul's writings scripture)
@andiroo42 actually when i study the authentincit and authorship of scripture many scholars do not believe peter wrote the book of peter.they say paul did,him or his assistant.Just look at how the book of peter opens.It reads just like a paul book.James and john show no similarity and if paul is so educated and peter is not their writing style wouldn't be identical. The book peter is responsible for is called the letter or book of clementine.I suggest you read it.it's great.
@ave383 it is possible that Peter dictated and someone wrote for him. Besides, you lose many precious promises of God if you cut out the writings of Paul.
Why would the illuminati and grigori plan a staged 'alien' invasion to bring in the anti-Christ's 7 year New World Order just in time for 2012 unless they needed to explain away a rapture? Just to help bring in the one world New Age false religion alone???
@AlienshateU I think people are so against the pre-trib rapture yet deep down in their mind they are afraid it will happen so they are already planning and excuse for it. These believers want to say NOW that the gov is gonna make a false rapture LOL. I've then heard about everything now.
post tribbers that say that are in a state of denial. I will release my rapture video soons.
Well, the lesson is...be careful with dates and times. Now, they are talking about 2012 and the end of the world....dangerous indeed. No one knows the time when Christ will rapture his church, I THINK it will be soon,but I do not KNOW for sure.
During tribulations Chrsitians be killed by moslems [beast 666] Matthew 24:9-13. After tribulations Mat 24:29 angels gather the elects Mat 24:34, then Jesus take one and leave wicked Matthew 24:40-42 = the rapture. Jesus returns again & the army of heaven to destroy the [Islamic] false prophet rev 19:11. Zechariah 14:1-20 also describes Jesus return touching Mount of Olives destroying the wicked [muslims]. Then the millennial begins, watch video [beast 666 chart how to calculate its numeric]
Matthew ch 24:29-31 after tribulation Mark ch 13:24-28 1thess ch 4 is the same event not different like most preachers think. If you read Matthew ch 24:15-21 you will see the Great tribulation don't start till we see the Antichrist. 2 Thess. ch 2:1-14 notice Jesus is coming after the workings of Satan. Jesus will destory the Antichrist with the brighness of his coming.I agree there is no Pre-rib rapture Jesus will come after tribulation.
You should try studying the different between the church and Israel, and then you will be able to see why a rapture of the church. See everything God does, he has a reason for it. What is the purpose of the church going through the wrath of God? If the church is here, why do God need the 144,000 to evangelize the world, and the two witnessess, and the angel preaching the everlasting gospel, all when the church is here doing it. Study the different between the church and National Israel.
Romans 1: 16 the Jew first and later the greek! Read Romans 11:17-21 (don't be arrogant). One vine, One tree, One body, One bride. We are all called saints. Constantine changed this thought that we are one body with the jew it is not a separate tree, it is one Body. Remember the day of Pentecost they were all in one accord, however there were no gentiles as of yet, they were jews from other contries. gentiles did not come on the seen until Peter had the dream from God.
also do you also celebrate Christmas? if you do that is fabels and not of God. We are spiritual jews with our prodigal brothers but they will return to God. If there are Jews that are christians what should prevent them from being a part of the bride? We can also fall from grace like they did, and we have by seeking after riches and possesions and not after God. Read Jeremiah 5 and you will see the similarities with our brothers (jews) and the church today. Also read Rev 3 about the laodecea
@rossdaboss1959 I do know the difference and most churchs don't teach truth because Jesus is not going to come at a different time for us than he does for anybody else Matthew ch 24:29-31 and Mark ch 13:24-28 and 1 Thess ch 4 is the same event and the Sabbath is Saturday not Sunday When Paul taught on Sunday He was teaching on the feast of unleavened bread the Passover. It starts from th 15th of the month and last 7 days Hope this helped. GBU
huh? ok, I am not arguing bro. All I am saying is that everyone has the Holy Ghost now adays, but live like the world, so that proves they are either not of God, or the Holy Ghost is not in them. Even in movies people mimmic speaking in tonges. Many call themselves christians, but where is the proof and separation from pagans. sabbath is the day of rest, if you want to worship on sunday, or even wednesday, it doesn't matter. God said rest, NO WORK.
The Lord showed me through His word, the truth about Sabbath. The Jews judged Jesus because he was suppose to be resting, and Jesus said, is it evil to do good on the sabbath, but sabbath was made for man not man for sabbath mark 2:27. seven day adventist are tripping for no reason. God wants us to rest and he made saturday Holy for himself and for us.
@hector771000 Yes I agree with that Jesus picked corn Jesus healed Jesus done many good works so no its not wrong to do good on Sabbath but we shouldn't work to make money on Sabbath because our attiehtion will not be on The Father and Jesus Christ. As long as we remember what The Father and Jesus has done and keep our minds on them then we are ok. I don't consider helping people to come to The fathr and Jesus work because I love to do it.. Through faith we are saved and when saved we follow
@hector771000 GBU and thanks for your kind words for kind words are good to the soul and reveil Gods glory. Praise be to the most high in Jesus name. Love you your brother Kendall
@rossdaboss1959 I don't know how many times I must explain this to people. WRATH and TRIBULATION ARE NOT THE SAME THING. TROUBLE AND TRIBULATION ARE THE SAME. WRATH comes in the sixth seal of Rev. there are seven seals. Joel 2, 3 Micah 4:5, zeph 1:14, ezek 30: 3 2 Peter 3:10 Rev 6: 12-17 (it is all THE DAY OF THE LORD) love you brother
U need to study the differents in the church and Israel. Israel is not the church and the church is not israel. Have u received the Holy Ghost like they did on the day of Pentecost?
@rossdaboss1959 israel is the church, they were the church first then the gentiles were ingrafted in. there is one church, one body, one God, one message, one way. Read Acts, and Hebrew the entire books and let the Holy Spirit guide you into truth. There are two resurrections not three Rev 20. These ministers have lied to the body for too long. They don't know God nor His word. Unity must first come in the body and the bride must be purified Dan 12:1-4
I myself been filled with his spirit over 30 years now and nobody is going to deceive me now. I know the Lord for myself just like those on the day of pentecost. Filled as the spirit gives the utterance. How can you be a teacher of prophecy and you can't see that the church is not Israel, and israel is not the church. What scripture tells us that the church has become Israel? God will still choose Israel, read Romans 11th chapter with understanding. Hosea 1:10-11, Isaiah 45:17, 44:21, READ!
Isaiah is a prophet correct! However you must read the entire chapter in order to understand what time and whom and where these prophecy's took and will take place. Salvation is of the Jew. We are too be one with our brothers. Brother do some research on Constantine, He hated Jews and separated them from the way. Now Christianity is Jew first then gentiles as Paul said. To say that God stopped witnessing to jews will mean that all messianic Jews are not of God, they must wait (ridiculus)
@rossdaboss1959 so if you are filled with the Holy Ghost can your name still be taken out of the book of life, if you are found unworthy or still living a life of sin? Lets see the truth for over 30 years of being filled.
During tribulations Chrsitians are killed by [moslems], Matthew 24:9-13. After the tribulations Mat 24:29, angels gather the elects Mat 24:34, then Jesus take one and leave [wicked] Matthew 24:40-42 = the rapture. Jesus returns again with the army of heaven to destroy the [Islamic] false prophet =[leader] rev 19:11. Zechariah 14:1-20 also describes Jesus return touching the Mount of Olives destroying the wicked [muslims]. Then the millennial begins without the devil and the wicked ones [islam]
brother I don't believe the antichrist is islamic and I will prove it to you with the word. Daniel 11:36-38 "a god unknown to his fathers" it is plain that it is not any god that anyone will know or even hear of. so that rules out krishna, budha, and every religion of today.
@hector771000 I will also show you a Mystory God showed me The Antichrist will be the fallen angels Matthew ch 24:38-39 It will be like the days of Noah so read Genesis ch 6 and notice the Fallen angels which is called the Sons of God in this passege They decieved people and showed them all kinds of things and the sons of these Fallen angels where giants they ruled the earth back then andso will it be again and then Jesus will come and destory the fallen angels with the false prophet.2Thess.ch2
@hardrockhouse yeah, I have been doing some research about this exact thing awhile back. this is as far back as babylon (nimrod) there are some interesting facts in the babylon heireglyphics. I believe and this may sound off, but man has always been interested in the stars. Jeremiah 10 God said don't be dismayed with the stars. Now UFO phenomenon is getting huge and much media. I believe this is where some delusions will come from. These fallen angels are UFOs
this guy just spent the last 10 minutes talking about money and how his ministry fell apart. i got news for you, its God ministry and i never heard Jesus speak once about money or ask anyone for money. no one should have an income from the gospel, it taints the messages. no one should have a financial vested interest in being a Christian. if people left you ministry it could of been God's doing. the chuch age is over according to prohets. the days of making money off the flock is done.
well said. Money is Mammon, either you will love one and hate the other matthew 6:24, Luke 16:13, these prosperity teachers are teaching the church to chase money (mammon) and not after God. I have never seen a scripture that says blessed are the rich. However you see the scripture Matthew 5 blessed are the poor. godliness is contentment 1 timothy 6:3-11 Paul teaches against such teachings.
God is bringing down the money makers and the profiteers in lieu of people not relying on men but God himself who will lead his people. there is so much corruption in ministries its best to stay away from formal religion. ASK THE LORD WHERE HE WOULD HAVE YOU GO SO YOU CAN GET FEED AND WHERE YOU CAN TRUST THE PEOPLE. if he were true the warning he put out would of come to pass. now he explains the God fixed the problem before it happened. he sounds like a con-man. and why would God do that?
In part one at 2:29-2:37...Stan says that God has told him 2 things....one that he is a Watchman and two that he is Dumitru Duduman! Dumitru was a Romanian evangelist....what is Stan talking about???
Good point..I didnt notice him saying that..thats weird...and that man Dumitru wasnt right saying to go against the Apostles commandments in Acts...whats he thinking, they knew God and his will for us???....That man was confused, but I do believe in the post trib as the word says "At the last trump"
i still dont know....this is soooooo confusing..... What i do know is iam saved by the atoning death of Jesus Christ,and washed clean by the blood of the Lamb...I am a new creation in Him.I am born again...I have repented of my sins and I love the Lord Jesus with all my heart..BE PREPARED EVERY DAY TO MEET THE LORD.And you cant go wrong.God BLess you all.
Good point. However, we must be prepared to guard ourselves from the strong delusion that is coming. If there is a pre-trib rapture, why would the Bible say that if it were possible even the very elect would be deceived? If we are all gone and with Jesus already, how can we be deceived?
the way i understand that scripture is "IF it were possible"...meaning it's NOT possible, because we will be gone... I also believe scripture is for the church past present (us) and future.there will be according to Pre-view,an uncountable harvest in the tribulation..would they also read this scripture,and if those believers read it after we are gone,how would it read?just throwing that one out there.like i said, im not sure..but always prepared.thanks for message.God Bless you
That's easy. Jesus is talking to the Jews, who asked the question. The elect during the tribulation are the remnant of the 12 tribes of Israel that God promised He will save to enter into the Millenial Kingdom, which is the fulfilled promise of the Abrahamic Covenant. The great deception will not effect them. However, 2/3rds of Israel will be killed during the wrath of God because of their unbelief.
why is it that the very elect aren't able to be deceived before the rapture whether it's pre tribulation of not? there is evidence of those who have already fallen to the strong delusion already.
I believe what you are referring to is the Apostacy. My question is, if the Church goes through the Tribualtion, what is the purpose of the Two Witnesses in Revelation?
@bigdaddyweave423 The two witnesses are moses and elijah, the old and the new testaments esp. during the french revolution. It was the pinnacle of atheism, the word of God was hidden (spiritual 'Sodom & Egypt) for 3 1/2 years.
Also see Ps. 119:105 & Zech 4:6. Do a g-search on Revelation 11 & the french revolution.
@SOPChurch "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" God is sending the strong delusion to who? To those who, "received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." =UNBELIEVERS. There is a delusion NOW from SATAN, but we MUST stay the course. Again, this STRONG DELUSION is from God, not Satan and is for a reason. PRE-TRIB or POST TRIB; I TRUST GOD TO KEEP ME (2 Thes 3:3, Jude 1:24, Rev 3:10) not the other way around. KEEP THE FAITH!
@MessiahSaves The strong delusion is when the Fallen Watchers return after being dug up to pretend to be "aliens" to help bring in the Anti-Christ's 7 yr. New World Order. Don't fall for it!
Do NOT take the RFID REAL IDs, Verichips, nor Somark tattoos.
@th3w4tchm4n the strong delusion is when you dnt get beamed up and you have an axe to your neck many will bail out at that moment because they were not prepared. make sense now
@SOPChurch ...the elect are the jews who will become christians...christians were never spoken of as the"elect"...the Elect always were classified as Jewish...the bride are the christians today...the book of Mattew was written for the Jews who will face the great trib...Satan cannot decieve the world as well as he wants to as long as the true church is on earth...but when the salt is gone, Satan will be happy to murder the Jews/Elect that will finally understand
Elect simply means Chosen, and all of Yahweh's children are considered His chosen. Paul teaches believers in Messiah are grafted into Israel, not the other way around! He says in Eph 2:12-13 :"and that at that time you (non-Jews) were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you (non-Jews) who were once afar off are made near by the blood of Christ."
Yeshua (Jesus) Himself said He came only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So if you are not joined to the elect, His Chosen, Israel, you are not His at all! There are only 12 gates to enter into the New Jerusalem. They are named after the 12 Tribes of Israel. There is NO gentile gate, so which one are you planning on entering through?
@SOPChurch well as far as the tribulation time they will stil be many who turns to God like the 44,000 who preach.so some can still be saved then deceived.the post theory is realy a yoyo theory.i dont see jesus punishing the saved with the wicked.his wrath isnt with us but the wicked.if jesus had to leave before the holy spirit came then wouldnt the holyspirit have to leave so satan could come?they are many things to consider before saying there isnt a rapture.
@SOPChurch BECAUSE THE "CHURCH" IS A DIFFERENT GROUP OF BELIEVERS THAN THE "ELECT". IF "PRE-TRIB" IS CORRECT THE CHURCH WILL BE RAPTURED, THEN THE PEOPLE WHO GET SAVED OUT OF THE GREAT TRIB ARE CALLED TRIBULATION SAINTS. BUT MANY GROUPS ARE REFERRED TO IN THE BIBLE AS "ELECT"- ISRAEL, ANGELS, JEWS, GENTILES ECT...
@0871368021 And that is exactly what you are supposed to do. We look for HIS COMING, not the coming of the Antichrist. We are to be AWARE of the enemies tactics,but we must be about living for Christ & spreading the Gospel message. Some are infatuated with going through the tribulation & fighting the Antichrist, but that is not our mission. Christ did not give us that mission.
One thing is for certain, we will find out soon enough if Pre-Trib or Post-Trib is correct. Keep your faith in Christ!
@MessiahSaves amen friend, and i still lean towards pre-trib, though not dogmatic and obnoxious about it..i could easily be wrong, being prepared everyday to meet the Lord is a safe place to be...full of oil, wicks trimmed.... God Bless you and thanks for your encouragement. :)
whoa on 1st of jan 2000 all planetary computers were synchronized. we entered an electronic new world order. now the man can run the 5 continents of the world with 4 men. can you see the deception here, and the scale.
Just for the mere fact that the title is the "prophecy club" makes me cautious of whatever he is going to say, wonder if the prophets of old had such a "club"
ive watched a lot of their videos and i find them very educational and entertaining but they lost me on this one they build their whole entire ministry on obscure verses and texts and you would think they would be pre-trib but their not also they started to lose me when i heard them call each other apostles lol
I didn't watch it, maybe I will go back and see what they have to say. I think there are only 12 apostles and I think Paul was self appointed, what do you think?
in other videos they introduce each other as apostles and prophets lol by definition an apostle is someone who actually saw the Lord Jesus Christ so paul was the last one. i still like there videos they are interesting and your not going to see some of this stuff anywhere else
I believe I have it all figured out: the rapture IS pre-trib (there are a ton of scriptures that suggest this)... however, WW3 will occur before the 7 year trib and Satan had it planned this way, therefore, when the nuclear weapons start falling and the rapture hasn't yet occured, don't be discouraged, the 7 year trib begins when the antichrist signs the 7 year treaty with Israel, which occurs AFTER WW3. The rapture should occur at around this time... WW4 is the battle of Armageddon, in trib.
ok darlin, i'm listening. and the first red flag came up. he is telling preachers to be worried about the check book,,, that should be the last thing ever worried about. sound doctrine should be first. well after devoting a life time to our relationship with JESUS.,,, then sound doctrine...
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naa the rapture is real god SAID HE WILL COME FOR HIS PEOPLE. First, "as a thief in the night" . . . for those who waited in faith 2nd Second, "every eye shall see" . . . with those who waited in faith
15heartz 4 days ago
This guy is a false teacher.... Go to this page an read:
A GLP Alert on False Prophets - Dumitru Duduman and The Prophecy Club
HowardTheServant 1 week ago
What do mean you are Demetri Deutermen?
evilemounicornXDXP 4 months ago
Why would Jesus says behold I come as a thief in the night.In rev 19 He comes with a rod of iron.Jacob's trouble is what God calls the trib in isiah.Thats why we need to pray,read the KJV everyday and repent so we dont get caught up in theory.The Bible needs to be our final authority.Proove me wrong with scriptures from the KJV about us getting left for Jacobs trouble.
the govt can have the guns but if they take my Bible, they'le have to take me.
TheKJVforever 6 months ago
has anybody ever realized that, Believers are being percecuted everyday!! how can you say PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE, Yeshua will rapture his saints when pleases. and when he does it will be on a future Rosh Hashanna (Yom Teruah). also known as feast of trumpets. which day or hour on Rosh Hashana? no man knows becasue its a 48 hour period from new moon to thin crecent.
Ulyssesskye 7 months ago
Christians that would pass through the GREAT TRIBULATION are those who repented unto Christ "too late" after the rapture has occurred. God will use the antichrist to unleash His wrath upon the whole Earth. However b/4 the rapture occur, every man/woman on Earth will be aware of the Name & saving grace of Jesus Christ (as well as ample opportunities to repent unto God), that no man may have any excuse on earth to "justifiably" accuse God of ignorance or negligence. but alas not all will repent.
7olusegun 7 months ago
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7olusegun 7 months ago
Mr. Duduman preacher, what you mean that "pre-trib. rapture is wrong doctrine? What did Jesus Christ mean when He said His coming will be like unto that of Noah & Lot? Tell me if Noah & Lot (both righteous b/4 God) partook of the deadly watery & fiery wrath of God respectively. Were both not Noah & Lot taken out of the way by God BEFORE God's judgement occurred? Christians go through persecutions; the latter which pales into insignificance compared with the GREAT TRIBULATION to come in future.
7olusegun 7 months ago
@7olusegun Thats why I wont give the other bibles the time or day.He said a thief in the night and in rev 19 He comes in glory.Thes 4;14-18 says plain as day about the rapture.If we got left behind and one saved person took that mark it would make God a liar.Thats why the Bible has got to be the final authority.Satan is just using the lose your salvation or your going thru Jacobs trouble.Thats right the tribulation is mainly to get the Jews to accept Jesus as the messiah.
TheKJVforever 6 months ago
@TheKJVforever Yep that's correct. Israel will go through the great tribulation simply b'cos they rejected the Messiah, Jesus, as their God & Lord. God would have to use the beast antichrist (Assyrian) to flog them properly, to make them cry unto Him & find Him at the tribulation ending. Also many people will repent "too late" after the rapture, to become Christians & would also have to pass through the antichrist's wrath. Both (Jews & Christians) will experience the "Jacob's troubles". Too bad!
7olusegun 6 months ago
Know the difference between the Tribulation and God's Wrath. The Tribulation is NOT God's Wrath. The Wrath is the fire that burns up the Earth on the day that Jesus returns.
genescott0001 8 months ago
What did he mean when he said, "I am Dimitri Duduman."?
transitionalphase 9 months ago
My question is, where in the bible does Jesus "specifically" say we will be raptured?
By the way, Noah was told to build the boat and it was because of Noah's obedience to God that he/ his family were saved. God/ Yaweh has told me to prepare me , I have been obedient in my/our preparation.
Great judgment is coming, no doubt.Only those who have prepared spiritually will make it through...no fear, just the truth. America has been living in la la land/disobedience for a long time. Hosea4/6
firstliberty 9 months ago
Noah and his family being saved in the ark in the OT was symbolic of the rapture which is yet to take place.I don't see how anyone can question the veracity of a rapture in Christendom and to even suggest it not taking place before the proposed tribulation eliminates the purpose entirely.One thing is undeniable and that is the fact that it will take place before things get unbearably bad on earth.
produde2008 9 months ago
@produde2008 God did not take Noah out of the Earth. He gave him the plans for the ark. The ark was on Earth while the flood took place around it. This is the same thing that will happen in the end. The Church will still be here, but protected "[taken into the desert on the wings of eagles]". If they were not here, who would teach them about Jesus? The Bibles left behind??? I'm pretty sure that Bibles will be outlawed, and not easily accessible.
genescott0001 8 months ago
@genescott0001 The purpose of the tribulation is for God to bring Israel back to Himself as a nation, not for Christians who have already accepted Him.What would be the purpose of a rapture at the end of the tribulation, there would be none because Christ will be returning at that time.Christians are made righteous through the blood, not through tribulation.Tribulation is for those who need correction and reproof.We are receiving that NOW however Israel still won't recognize Jesus as Messiah.
produde2008 6 months ago
@genescott0001 Our day to day lives we are living at this very moment are our time of tribulation and trials.We won't need to be here during the tribulation and if we were we would be thoroughly killed anyway.God will use repentant martyrs who accept Christ during the tribulation to be tokens and witnesses, along with Elijah and Enoch (or so it's believed as they never saw death), to warn of coming judgment and proclaim salvation.The world will be so full of wickedness we couldn't stand.
produde2008 6 months ago
@produde2008 So then, who are the Saints that lose their heads during the Tribulation??? Isn't that an oxymoron? A Saint is one that is saved by the blood. If the Christians are gone, who tells of Jesus? When the angel stands on the land and on the sea and prclaims "It is finished", (this is before Jesus returns), the books are opened, the judgement has passed, who else gets saved? What is the point?
genescott0001 6 months ago
@genescott0001 The saints your refering to are those who reject the anti-christ system and die as martyrs for Christ, they accept Him but now must pay with their lives for their acceptance because the anti-christ will have it no other way.In his eyes he is to be worshipped as god.The judgment has passed scripture is speaking of plagues and famines which God will send to engulf the Earth during the tribulation, Revelations also tells us that men will run to the hills and cry out for death.
produde2008 6 months ago
@genescott0001 They will cry out for death...but yet refuse to repent because that's how wicked, desolate and hardened their hearts have become.So ask yourself this, if plagues, famines and war won't turn them to God what good to them would we be? Reminds me of a scripture by the Prophet Jeremiah found in Jer. 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?".And remember Jesus said "As in the days of Noah" and Noah didn't win many converts.
produde2008 6 months ago
@genescott0001 Finally, as a last effort by God to reach the unrepentant, Revelations tells us that He will send an angel across the heavens to proclaim the gospel and those remaining will have a final chance to accept.If they refuse then they have chosen to embrace judgment upon Christ's return to Earth.
So you see, I feel the one thing Brother Stan fails to realize here is the degree of wickedness in the hearts of mankind,either way one can be saved whether they believe the rapture or not.
produde2008 6 months ago
@produde2008 Perhaps you can help me understand where the idea that these are the people who accept Christ AFTER the Rapture has happened??? Logistically, how would these people accept and grow? Who is there to guide? Is God still working in the world after the Church is gone? Why are these "Saints" punished, but not the backsliding Church who said a little prayer and never acted in faith?
genescott0001 6 months ago
@genescott0001 They won't grow much as far as a walk with Christ in the flesh is concerned, they won't need to because salvation through acceptance will be enough.These Christian martyrs will only be a testimony in death to others, maybe they will be given an opportunity by the proud and blasphemous anti-christ to say their final words, God only knows that for sure.God will still be working but through judgments because the heart of men will be turned away from God by means of afflictions.
produde2008 6 months ago
@genescott0001 Remember that In the Exodus Pharoah's heart was hardened by rejection of truth.The same thing will be happening during the tribulation of Revelations.God will have to resort to many judgments in an attempt to break the obstinate heart of a rebellious mankind that has forgotten Him.That will be the testimony, repent or face destruction.And so the saints who die as martyrs during the tribulation die not because of God's punishment but because of man's incessant evil heart.
produde2008 6 months ago
2nd Part: The backsliden church will be the segment of the body of Christ that has deviated from the true gospel of Jesus Christ.They will have become so destitute, cold and callous in their heart's towards God's intended way that they will most likely embrace the anti-christ with open arms when they see him because they wont know the difference between an imposter and the real Christ.They will be so blind they will be for the anti-christ and his world system.Their will be exceptions though.
produde2008 6 months ago
@TheKJVberean Amen Amen Some people just don't want to ask God for understanding. They just believe what sounds good to them. God bless you!
rossdaboss1959 10 months ago
Still amazes me that people with little understanding of scripture will call themselves "teachers" and "prophets"... Someone who doesn't distinguish from tribulation of this life by the god of this world, from "the coming wrath" of God's judgment. Please see bcrevolution.ca/rapture_facts.htm
mike6291 10 months ago
so 12 people dont like that there is no pre tribulation rapture!!!
aek21gangsta 11 months ago
Could it not be that as a watchman that you piped a note not in tune with the scriptures? Getting all kinds of people revved up over nothing? In other words-proclaimingyouurself to be a watchman and falsely by your own accounts sounding the alarm over something that should have not been sounded? In pother words-whenyou cause many to be so worrisome about eventsthat did nothing-perhaps seeing you as a fake-a wana be?
daveme7 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean haha I never looked at the elders as being those raptured. I was always like "whats with the 24 old guys?" lol but Why would it use the number 24 cuz it surely isnt a literal statistic?
Phnatec123 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean As I read, it does say "pray to be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass," so I'm rethinking things now...hmmm I guess I didn't understand this verse until now but maybe the things stated are all apart of the great tribulation....that would make sense lol...sorry if I offended you
Phnatec123 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean If you could prove to me with solid, sound, and accurate support from scripture that Jesus will rapture His bride before the great tribulation and how we are unworthy if we do not believe in this "pre trib rapture" because luke 21 clearly says we will be delivered unto persecution for a testimony of our faith.
Phnatec123 11 months ago
@Phnatec123 i believe that the church will be tested,is what the bible says..
superlynn27 10 months ago
@superlynn27 What are u reading? The church will not be tested by God's wrath. Israel n unbelievers will be tested. The real church already believe and trust in God. Not everyone is of the church. Romans 8:1, There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus. If we have to be tested by God's wrath, then what Christ did on the cross wasn't enough. He said , it is finished. How about those who died without going through? They in hell? Acts 2:38 God's plan.
rossdaboss1959 10 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 IS THE CHURCH FOLLOWING GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS? SOME JEWS ARE FOLLOWING GOD'S LAW,BUT DO NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST, SOME OF US BELIEVE IN CHRIST BUT DO NOT FOLLOW ALL OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS. THE CHURCH WILL BE SAVED FROM GOD'S WRATH,BUT NOT THE GT TRIBULAION.THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT EVENTS. READ THE WORD OF GOD NOT WHAT MAN TELLS YOU.
superlynn27 10 months ago
@superlynn27 The real church is doing better than that. We have love one for another. Trying to follow the ten commandment is not salvation. No u can't do whatever u want. U not reading. Galatians 2:16-21. 3rd chapter. Have u obeyed Acts 2:38 yet? Salvation for our time now? Israel has one more week of years to fulfill prophecy. The 7 years tribulation is allotted to them n unbelievers. If not, get filled with the Holy Ghost, take on his name through water baptism. Repent.
rossdaboss1959 10 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 the church is not doing good..They are not loving one another,why?because they do the things of this world..There's got o be a law that separate God's people from the rest of the world and that is God's commandments..The world follow only the law of the State,but we must follow God's law,that includes to love one another.The church is not acting like the book of Acts say,,read and compare..Only 3 1/2 of tribulation,not 7
superlynn27 10 months ago
@superlynn27 I probably would agree with u if i didn't know better, but everybody that say they are the church is not. The true church of God is holy, live holy and watching for the Lord. Not these people who are always talking about money n the things of this world. Only God knows who is the real church. Just because u see many people doing wrong who say they are the church, don't mean the church is doing bad. Those doing bad are bad.
rossdaboss1959 10 months ago
@Phnatec123 Will u wake up already. yes a lot of us will be persecuted for our faith. That's already happening today. We don't need the tribulation for that. Don't get that mixed up with GOD"S WRATH. Jesus did it all on the cross for us. If we have to be saved through God's wrath, then what Jesus did on the cross wasn't enough. I would not want to be standing before God on Judgment day stating that it wasn't enough to give his life for us. Read, Pray, ask God to lead u. Acts 2:38.
rossdaboss1959 10 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 For real it don't matter. Ima keep looking up to that eastern sky for Jesus no matter what. Only the true prophets of God have the knowledge of how stuff is really gunna play out. You're right, we are not appointed to wrath, but who knows how bad the suffering for christ will be until His return. Things will only get worst and He's definately calling His children. I do read and pray and I do walk after the Spirit.
Phnatec123 10 months ago
@Phnatec123 yes things might get very bad down here before Jesus come for his church, but it won't compare to God's wrath coming down here. It won't be God's wrath that we will have to worry about. Man's wrath. Paul stated to comfort one another. U can't comfort anybody by telling them they have to go through God's wrath. We can't get God's wrath mixed up with man's wrath. God bless you! I just hope we all be ready when he comes. Acts 2:38 is still God's plan of salvation.
rossdaboss1959 10 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 I may be the least of His disciples but I am His, brother. I never once said what Jesus did wasn't enough. What Jesus did was an act of Perfect love, grace, and mercy that busted through the realm of eternity. I am reconciled back to God for Jesus Christ's perfect act of grace and now that I know God and now that I know He is with me I will fear no evil, and if He is with me, then whom shall I fear?
Phnatec123 10 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 I am rewarded for my faith with love. love never fails.
Phnatec123 10 months ago
@Phnatec123 Love never fails is right, but love is not salvation. A person can love everybody, but will that save him? One needs to have a personal relationship with God. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying i'm better than anybody. I'm just saying what's true according to the word of God. People are trying to come the way they feel they want to, but what way do the Bible show to come from Pentecost and onward? We talking about eternity, there's no room for mistakes. U can feel God's presence.
rossdaboss1959 10 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 God is love. God is salvation. Jesus is our mediator and our Lord and Savior reconciling us Back to God. Amen. Amen. God bless you too and you're right. It was through faith in the Word from the beginning. Once a lost soul but through faith we repented were babtised in the name of Jesus as The living Son of God for the remission of sins because we TRULY believed in our HEART and trusted in Jesus as Lord and Savior who died for all and rose again being the first born of the dead
Phnatec123 10 months ago
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@TheKJVberean Is this love?-->"Most of the church is going to be left behind at the rapture, there'll even be some born again believers left behind, again scripture makes that clear." I see no encouragement in this statement but your own little personal false doctrine
Phnatec123 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean Well again it doesn't matter if you believe pre-trib or not. We are to preach the gospel and that He died and rose again and Hes coming back and that we should be ready always. If you are in Christ, you are in Christ. If you are longing for His return at any minute, then thats what matter. Preaching about the rapture is to comfort one another and not to be debated. The lawless man of sin(antichrist) will be revealed before Christs coming and this is during the tribulation I thought
Phnatec123 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean You still didn't explain to me what is meant in revelation chapter 7 verse 14.
Phnatec123 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean Ok well I was only making a point (which you didn't confute and you even agreed with what I said about staying alert), but only the Lord can look on the heart of others. You know not who will ascendeth with the angels or who will be left and to make such a bold claim as that you are placing yourself at the throne of God. You lie if you say you walk in love with that contempt for your fellow siblings in Christ. "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar"
Phnatec123 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean ...because scripture is not that clear in supporting a pretrib rapture
Phnatec123 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean The Bible does not say if you deny pretrib you will be left, but if you deny christ. The bible does say that the 144,000 and the numberless multitude come out of the "Great tribulation" and this is after the sixth seal is opened. It also says the gospel will be delivered unto all nations, The sun will be darkened, the moon will turn blood red, and not give its light. I believe it's important to focus on staying alert always without expectation of a pretrib rapture...
Phnatec123 11 months ago
THE GREATEST FUCKING COMMENT EVER : YOU DONT KNOW SHIT BITCH!!! FUCK A BITCH , TOKE ON MARY JANE , DRINK SOME PURPLE FUCK MORE BITCH .
fastone32 11 months ago
@TheKJVberean I LOSE IN GETTING PREPARED FOR THE TRIBULATION! SOME PPL WILL NOT STOCK UP ON MOST NEEDED SUPPLIES BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY WONT BE HERE! ABOUT LIKE THE WISE AND FOOLISH VIRGINS! ONE WAS PREPARED ONE WAS NOT!
4jesus1981 1 year ago
It is about Stan or Shawn Johnson??
Lojajesus 1 year ago
@TheKJVberean
It's very telling that ur fighting God's people instead of making a *active* stance against the devil,argue all u like but when the heat fires up all of heaven will see if u betray Christ or not,i'm secure & prepared for the worst,ur irresponsibly not,ur nation is mystery babylon for a reason,& ur clueless,stan uses 200 scriptures in this 2+hr vid proving the pretrib rapture is a lie,watch it,not one diehard pretribber has continued on in the lie after watching,u can be the 1st.
EricBowser111 1 year ago
@TheKJVberean
Keep lying to urself,if u trully had the spirit of God in u,there is no way u would be calling him a false teacher,so ur ignorance & lack of discernment is quite evident,ur own accusations judge u & show u to be a tare.
EricBowser111 1 year ago
The bible also predicted there would be who don't understand the bible and accuse people who do of being false teachers,your known as accusers of the brethen,and likely those who will fall away because you expected a false rapture that was never promised to save you,the rapture saves no one period,God saves his people during the tribulation the same way he saved the 3 men in the fiery furnace,the lord was in the fiery furnace with the 3 men,he saves us through the storm,but we must clean up.
EricBowser111 1 year ago
@TheKJVberean The statement you made saying"The bible predicted there'll be ppl like you asking where is Christ and His coming" proves you don't understand the bible at all,or ur of the enemy and actually trying to decieve,the people the bible was referring to asking where is his return were scoffers,and the passage clearly showed they were asking mockingly,so you reveal yourself to be suspect,so if stan has people like you coming out to attack him,he clearly must be doing what is right by God.
EricBowser111 1 year ago
@TheKJVberean
Read ezekial 13 completely and you will clearly see God is against those false teachers,who hunt souls of the righteous,and teach them to fly,this was about doctrine,and you have fallen into a modernday version of this lie,the word rapture is not even in the bible,believe whatever you like but the bible makes it very clear that the true Christ doesn't return until after the 7th trump,the sun actually novas and is out when he returns.
EricBowser111 1 year ago
@TheKJVberean
What does the false rapture doctrine teach?,that your gonna fly outta here and escape the tribulation meeting the lord in the air,so why is so much said in the bible by the lord to prepare for the tribulation? especially if he is just gonna fly us outta here?I'm sorry you believe that lie,but you better be strong because your gonna be here buddy,he put in his word not to go with anyone saying we have christ hid here & there or in the secret chambers,and thats for the last days.
EricBowser111 1 year ago
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EricBowser111 1 year ago
@TheKJVberean
You false rapturedoctrine believers can be fool by the strong delusion of 2nd thessalonians2:7-12 false christ & his fallen angels if you like,but the true Christ of God doesn't return until the 7th final trump,no time before.
Ezekiel 13:20
20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
EricBowser111 1 year ago
@TheKJVberean
No ur a false christian,accuser of the brethen,Christians all over the world are being persecuted & killed for their faith,google voice of the martyr's,in sudan africa genocide is occuring recently millions of christians slaughtered,in china right now christians are being slaughtered,where is their rapture sir?,slaughtered soviet christians,american Christians are too good to go through tribulation huh?,watch God sift real from fake Christains in america,I hope u keep your faith.
EricBowser111 1 year ago
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EricBowser111 1 year ago
this guy is a fucking asshole! Y2K is and was a fucking joke, just like this dildo head!
ObamaIsAGayCokeHead 1 year ago
Great Job Stan, I miss not work with you anymore I really miss your friendship. I'm still here if you need any help. Robert
propheticinfo1 1 year ago
Is this Jehovah's Witness? I am asking because of the phrase "watchmen". Also, it seems like the first ten minutes is simply licking his wounds over Y2K. There were pre-tribulation ministers who warned about Y2K, I am thinking specifically of Dr. Jack Van Impe, and their ministries survived. Perhaps this man's ministry was in trouble because he set himself up as the answer and not the return of Christ.
heartcat80 1 year ago
@heartcat80 no you're thinking of "watchtower"
dedildy 1 year ago
Stan I believe you were the one who helped fuel the fires of Y2K. How much money did you make off that? It never happened Stan and you have the audacity to belittle peoples hope in the blessed hope. You need to sit down and be quiet. Get a real job. You are so pathetically prophetically wrong on almost every issue you address. Have you offered refunds since 2000 for the panic you helped to create throughout the body of Christ. If not you are a false teacher. Have you dared to apologize?
Pilgrim190 1 year ago
@Pilgrim190 I believe he did apologize. He made a mistake, he was wrong. He seemed to have a problem being modest about his mistake,but I beleive his intentions were real. We all know how the problem could have been if the rollover issue were not addressed,but I doubt it was ever an issue. On a side note, I do not currently support Stan for much different reasons, but I do not condem every sermon and lecture on his program because of such.
AndrewKH85 1 year ago
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@StarOfJacob do you believe Jesus Christ is God?
0871368021 1 year ago
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@StarOfJacob i do not believe i pre-existed before my life here on earth. Do you believe Jesus Christ is God?
0871368021 1 year ago
@StarOfJacob I dont know other believers hearts.. by their fruit ye shall know them. The thief on the cross had no time to prove himself to worthy to God..he simply believed and died.. I can only be worthy by His Spirit and the work the Holy Spirit of God is doing through me. I am unable to make myself worthy. When I received His Holy Spirit, I was bornagain - born spiritually. Before The Holy Spirit came into my heart, i was spiritually dead.I was re-born by His Spirit.
0871368021 1 year ago
@StarOfJacob just out of curiousity friend, Is Jesus Christ your personal Lord and Saviour? does His Holy Spirit dwell in your heart? if so, what makes it so difficult to understand what Iam saying? or what all believers who Love and accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour are saying? A supernatural change occurs the moment we repent to God for our sins &ask the Lord Jesus to come into our hearts to renew us, change us from the inside out..wash us clean from the inside out.Has this happened to u?
0871368021 1 year ago
@StarOfJacob G509 (again) 1) from above, from a higher place
a) of things which come from heaven or God
2) from the first, from the beginning, from the very first
3) anew, over again
I understand from this that the moment we repent to God for all our sins and believe Jesus took our deserved punishment for all sin,that Jesus becomes our LORD & SAVIOUR..then that is the very moment His Spirit enters into our hearts and we are BORN AGAIN by His Holy Spirit. This is what has happened to me.
0871368021 1 year ago
@StarOfJacob G1080(to be born)1) of men who fathered children
a) to be born
b) to be begotten
1) of women giving birth to children
2) metaph.
a) to engender, cause to arise, excite
b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone
c) of God making Christ his son
d) of God making men his sons through faith in Christ's work
0871368021 1 year ago
@StarOfJacob John 3 1-7. If Jesus tells us we must be born again to see the Kingdom of God... then i understand Jesus spoke of it and it is biblical. But thanks for all your messages and I have spent quite some time finding out all positions regarding the gathering of the saints and im persuaded by the scriptures,to believe that a pre-trib rapture will occur.Thankfully you and i are saved by the Grace of God and tobe ready at all times and at right standing with God is most important of all. :)
0871368021 1 year ago
I have always believed there is no rapture, i always knew there is only one coming. But all the chruches preach the rapture...how do you tell them they are wrong? Thanks for your message.
izzigogo 1 year ago
@izzigogo
The christian churches in russia expected a rapture to save them right before the communist took over,and as a result they found themselves dying in the gulags,and alot turned atheist after that,but God never promised it,where is the rapture for the christians in sudan africa being slaughtered for their faith even now?so is the american christians better than those christians?nay I say,and the american church is in the exact same deception thinking a rapture is gonna save them.
SHOCCTROOP 1 year ago
I didn't know Jeff Foxworthy was a Preacher? Hopefully, he will bring his witness to other celebrities...
CrackerJayherber 1 year ago
I truly believe, I'm gonna stay back and possibly be martyred. I am in no way concerned with this thought, I shall die for my king any day!!!
TheSindakit 1 year ago
@TheSindakit thats brave my dude. you sound like Peter.
Smokewunn 1 year ago
There is no rapture,Paul is a false prophet. I grew up in church and was in church that night and I knew as a child that nothing would happen.How come a grown man couldn't discern that.There is no pretrib.Yahushua said he will return after the last trump.The last trump is the 7th trumpet in revelations.Read the whole book of revelations and you will clearly see there is no rapture.The title rapture came from a diviner woman and Christians blindly follow.
ave383 1 year ago
@ave383 I believe Paul supports a post trib rapture, that the 2nd coming and the rapture are one. If Paul is a false prophet so is Peter (he called Paul's writings scripture)
andiroo42 1 year ago
@andiroo42 actually when i study the authentincit and authorship of scripture many scholars do not believe peter wrote the book of peter.they say paul did,him or his assistant.Just look at how the book of peter opens.It reads just like a paul book.James and john show no similarity and if paul is so educated and peter is not their writing style wouldn't be identical. The book peter is responsible for is called the letter or book of clementine.I suggest you read it.it's great.
ave383 1 year ago
@ave383 it is possible that Peter dictated and someone wrote for him. Besides, you lose many precious promises of God if you cut out the writings of Paul.
andiroo42 1 year ago
What most people do when they are faced with a lot of trouble, they simply don't have the capacity for CONTEXT.
johnbisaac93 1 year ago
A real prophet of GOD has a 100% accurancy. People like you make non-believers think Christians are idiots! Don't take the name of our LORD in vain.
mammal46 1 year ago
Why would the illuminati and grigori plan a staged 'alien' invasion to bring in the anti-Christ's 7 year New World Order just in time for 2012 unless they needed to explain away a rapture? Just to help bring in the one world New Age false religion alone???
AlienshateU 1 year ago
@AlienshateU I think people are so against the pre-trib rapture yet deep down in their mind they are afraid it will happen so they are already planning and excuse for it. These believers want to say NOW that the gov is gonna make a false rapture LOL. I've then heard about everything now.
post tribbers that say that are in a state of denial. I will release my rapture video soons.
MinWilliamJosephWWM 1 year ago
The rapture is nonsense. Many cristian denominations do NOT teach it.
lizazoon 1 year ago
Well, the lesson is...be careful with dates and times. Now, they are talking about 2012 and the end of the world....dangerous indeed. No one knows the time when Christ will rapture his church, I THINK it will be soon,but I do not KNOW for sure.
JMMCL16 1 year ago
LMAO they secretly fixed it....puleeeeaase!
jeangrey65 1 year ago
The rapture has no truth in it NONE, Fantasy from A to Z
lizazoon 2 years ago
boo-too hyped up
twalker7246 2 years ago
and actually you have not rid your self of that terrible masonic attire, plus you shave your face . Where is your soul ?
The savior was raised a mason in his but he gave up his life (career) to gain his ministry. (real prophets are homeless)
yodanh 2 years ago
What are you talking about?
babiinene 2 years ago
During tribulations Chrsitians be killed by moslems [beast 666] Matthew 24:9-13. After tribulations Mat 24:29 angels gather the elects Mat 24:34, then Jesus take one and leave wicked Matthew 24:40-42 = the rapture. Jesus returns again & the army of heaven to destroy the [Islamic] false prophet rev 19:11. Zechariah 14:1-20 also describes Jesus return touching Mount of Olives destroying the wicked [muslims]. Then the millennial begins, watch video [beast 666 chart how to calculate its numeric]
mouhdie 2 years ago
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ReptaJuDo2012 2 years ago
Matthew ch 24:29-31 after tribulation Mark ch 13:24-28 1thess ch 4 is the same event not different like most preachers think. If you read Matthew ch 24:15-21 you will see the Great tribulation don't start till we see the Antichrist. 2 Thess. ch 2:1-14 notice Jesus is coming after the workings of Satan. Jesus will destory the Antichrist with the brighness of his coming.I agree there is no Pre-rib rapture Jesus will come after tribulation.
hardrockhouse 2 years ago
You should try studying the different between the church and Israel, and then you will be able to see why a rapture of the church. See everything God does, he has a reason for it. What is the purpose of the church going through the wrath of God? If the church is here, why do God need the 144,000 to evangelize the world, and the two witnessess, and the angel preaching the everlasting gospel, all when the church is here doing it. Study the different between the church and National Israel.
rossdaboss1959 2 years ago
Romans 1: 16 the Jew first and later the greek! Read Romans 11:17-21 (don't be arrogant). One vine, One tree, One body, One bride. We are all called saints. Constantine changed this thought that we are one body with the jew it is not a separate tree, it is one Body. Remember the day of Pentecost they were all in one accord, however there were no gentiles as of yet, they were jews from other contries. gentiles did not come on the seen until Peter had the dream from God.
hector771000 2 years ago
also do you also celebrate Christmas? if you do that is fabels and not of God. We are spiritual jews with our prodigal brothers but they will return to God. If there are Jews that are christians what should prevent them from being a part of the bride? We can also fall from grace like they did, and we have by seeking after riches and possesions and not after God. Read Jeremiah 5 and you will see the similarities with our brothers (jews) and the church today. Also read Rev 3 about the laodecea
hector771000 2 years ago
@rossdaboss1959 I do know the difference and most churchs don't teach truth because Jesus is not going to come at a different time for us than he does for anybody else Matthew ch 24:29-31 and Mark ch 13:24-28 and 1 Thess ch 4 is the same event and the Sabbath is Saturday not Sunday When Paul taught on Sunday He was teaching on the feast of unleavened bread the Passover. It starts from th 15th of the month and last 7 days Hope this helped. GBU
hardrockhouse 2 years ago
huh? ok, I am not arguing bro. All I am saying is that everyone has the Holy Ghost now adays, but live like the world, so that proves they are either not of God, or the Holy Ghost is not in them. Even in movies people mimmic speaking in tonges. Many call themselves christians, but where is the proof and separation from pagans. sabbath is the day of rest, if you want to worship on sunday, or even wednesday, it doesn't matter. God said rest, NO WORK.
hector771000 2 years ago
The Lord showed me through His word, the truth about Sabbath. The Jews judged Jesus because he was suppose to be resting, and Jesus said, is it evil to do good on the sabbath, but sabbath was made for man not man for sabbath mark 2:27. seven day adventist are tripping for no reason. God wants us to rest and he made saturday Holy for himself and for us.
hector771000 2 years ago
@hector771000 Yes I agree with that Jesus picked corn Jesus healed Jesus done many good works so no its not wrong to do good on Sabbath but we shouldn't work to make money on Sabbath because our attiehtion will not be on The Father and Jesus Christ. As long as we remember what The Father and Jesus has done and keep our minds on them then we are ok. I don't consider helping people to come to The fathr and Jesus work because I love to do it.. Through faith we are saved and when saved we follow
hardrockhouse 2 years ago
@hardrockhouse absolutely I agree with you brother, you are right!
hector771000 2 years ago
@hector771000 GBU and thanks for your kind words for kind words are good to the soul and reveil Gods glory. Praise be to the most high in Jesus name. Love you your brother Kendall
hardrockhouse 2 years ago
@rossdaboss1959 I don't know how many times I must explain this to people. WRATH and TRIBULATION ARE NOT THE SAME THING. TROUBLE AND TRIBULATION ARE THE SAME. WRATH comes in the sixth seal of Rev. there are seven seals. Joel 2, 3 Micah 4:5, zeph 1:14, ezek 30: 3 2 Peter 3:10 Rev 6: 12-17 (it is all THE DAY OF THE LORD) love you brother
hector771000 2 years ago
I AGREEEEE
so many people I tell are like "oh we won't go through "the great tribulation", Jesus will come before that"
But these ignorant people don't understand the difference between tribulation and wrath. My GOODNESS.
....I had to vent, sorry.
babiinene 2 years ago
Bryan Denlinger and Greg A. Miller on sermonaudio will set you straight on the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.
Christians will be taken out of this world before the tribulation.
Camel76 2 years ago
U need to study the differents in the church and Israel. Israel is not the church and the church is not israel. Have u received the Holy Ghost like they did on the day of Pentecost?
rossdaboss1959 2 years ago
@rossdaboss1959 israel is the church, they were the church first then the gentiles were ingrafted in. there is one church, one body, one God, one message, one way. Read Acts, and Hebrew the entire books and let the Holy Spirit guide you into truth. There are two resurrections not three Rev 20. These ministers have lied to the body for too long. They don't know God nor His word. Unity must first come in the body and the bride must be purified Dan 12:1-4
hector771000 2 years ago
I myself been filled with his spirit over 30 years now and nobody is going to deceive me now. I know the Lord for myself just like those on the day of pentecost. Filled as the spirit gives the utterance. How can you be a teacher of prophecy and you can't see that the church is not Israel, and israel is not the church. What scripture tells us that the church has become Israel? God will still choose Israel, read Romans 11th chapter with understanding. Hosea 1:10-11, Isaiah 45:17, 44:21, READ!
rossdaboss1959 2 years ago
Isaiah is a prophet correct! However you must read the entire chapter in order to understand what time and whom and where these prophecy's took and will take place. Salvation is of the Jew. We are too be one with our brothers. Brother do some research on Constantine, He hated Jews and separated them from the way. Now Christianity is Jew first then gentiles as Paul said. To say that God stopped witnessing to jews will mean that all messianic Jews are not of God, they must wait (ridiculus)
hector771000 2 years ago
@rossdaboss1959 so if you are filled with the Holy Ghost can your name still be taken out of the book of life, if you are found unworthy or still living a life of sin? Lets see the truth for over 30 years of being filled.
hector771000 2 years ago
he calls Himself an Apostle. Himself. The cannon was closed 2000 years ago stanley!!!!!
Sorry.
You are Not an Apostle since we have the Holy Spirit to equip any to do anything.
Sorry.
robwiley01 2 years ago
During tribulations Chrsitians are killed by [moslems], Matthew 24:9-13. After the tribulations Mat 24:29, angels gather the elects Mat 24:34, then Jesus take one and leave [wicked] Matthew 24:40-42 = the rapture. Jesus returns again with the army of heaven to destroy the [Islamic] false prophet =[leader] rev 19:11. Zechariah 14:1-20 also describes Jesus return touching the Mount of Olives destroying the wicked [muslims]. Then the millennial begins without the devil and the wicked ones [islam]
mouhdie 2 years ago
brother I don't believe the antichrist is islamic and I will prove it to you with the word. Daniel 11:36-38 "a god unknown to his fathers" it is plain that it is not any god that anyone will know or even hear of. so that rules out krishna, budha, and every religion of today.
hector771000 2 years ago
@hector771000 I will also show you a Mystory God showed me The Antichrist will be the fallen angels Matthew ch 24:38-39 It will be like the days of Noah so read Genesis ch 6 and notice the Fallen angels which is called the Sons of God in this passege They decieved people and showed them all kinds of things and the sons of these Fallen angels where giants they ruled the earth back then andso will it be again and then Jesus will come and destory the fallen angels with the false prophet.2Thess.ch2
hardrockhouse 2 years ago
@hardrockhouse yeah, I have been doing some research about this exact thing awhile back. this is as far back as babylon (nimrod) there are some interesting facts in the babylon heireglyphics. I believe and this may sound off, but man has always been interested in the stars. Jeremiah 10 God said don't be dismayed with the stars. Now UFO phenomenon is getting huge and much media. I believe this is where some delusions will come from. These fallen angels are UFOs
hector771000 2 years ago
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herbst777 2 years ago
this guy just spent the last 10 minutes talking about money and how his ministry fell apart. i got news for you, its God ministry and i never heard Jesus speak once about money or ask anyone for money. no one should have an income from the gospel, it taints the messages. no one should have a financial vested interest in being a Christian. if people left you ministry it could of been God's doing. the chuch age is over according to prohets. the days of making money off the flock is done.
ultima00001 2 years ago
well said. Money is Mammon, either you will love one and hate the other matthew 6:24, Luke 16:13, these prosperity teachers are teaching the church to chase money (mammon) and not after God. I have never seen a scripture that says blessed are the rich. However you see the scripture Matthew 5 blessed are the poor. godliness is contentment 1 timothy 6:3-11 Paul teaches against such teachings.
hector771000 2 years ago
God is bringing down the money makers and the profiteers in lieu of people not relying on men but God himself who will lead his people. there is so much corruption in ministries its best to stay away from formal religion. ASK THE LORD WHERE HE WOULD HAVE YOU GO SO YOU CAN GET FEED AND WHERE YOU CAN TRUST THE PEOPLE. if he were true the warning he put out would of come to pass. now he explains the God fixed the problem before it happened. he sounds like a con-man. and why would God do that?
ultima00001 2 years ago
y2k we entered an electronic new world order, and satan now runs the earth with 4 men
wychoba 2 years ago
In part one at 2:29-2:37...Stan says that God has told him 2 things....one that he is a Watchman and two that he is Dumitru Duduman! Dumitru was a Romanian evangelist....what is Stan talking about???
shejerr 2 years ago
Good point..I didnt notice him saying that..thats weird...and that man Dumitru wasnt right saying to go against the Apostles commandments in Acts...whats he thinking, they knew God and his will for us???....That man was confused, but I do believe in the post trib as the word says "At the last trump"
anddihier 2 years ago
i still dont know....this is soooooo confusing..... What i do know is iam saved by the atoning death of Jesus Christ,and washed clean by the blood of the Lamb...I am a new creation in Him.I am born again...I have repented of my sins and I love the Lord Jesus with all my heart..BE PREPARED EVERY DAY TO MEET THE LORD.And you cant go wrong.God BLess you all.
0871368021 2 years ago 9
Good point. However, we must be prepared to guard ourselves from the strong delusion that is coming. If there is a pre-trib rapture, why would the Bible say that if it were possible even the very elect would be deceived? If we are all gone and with Jesus already, how can we be deceived?
SOPChurch 2 years ago 3
the way i understand that scripture is "IF it were possible"...meaning it's NOT possible, because we will be gone... I also believe scripture is for the church past present (us) and future.there will be according to Pre-view,an uncountable harvest in the tribulation..would they also read this scripture,and if those believers read it after we are gone,how would it read?just throwing that one out there.like i said, im not sure..but always prepared.thanks for message.God Bless you
0871368021 2 years ago
That's easy. Jesus is talking to the Jews, who asked the question. The elect during the tribulation are the remnant of the 12 tribes of Israel that God promised He will save to enter into the Millenial Kingdom, which is the fulfilled promise of the Abrahamic Covenant. The great deception will not effect them. However, 2/3rds of Israel will be killed during the wrath of God because of their unbelief.
nathaw11 2 years ago
why is it that the very elect aren't able to be deceived before the rapture whether it's pre tribulation of not? there is evidence of those who have already fallen to the strong delusion already.
iloveusomuchjesus 2 years ago
I believe what you are referring to is the Apostacy. My question is, if the Church goes through the Tribualtion, what is the purpose of the Two Witnesses in Revelation?
bigdaddyweave423 2 years ago 5
Good point!
iloveusomuchjesus 2 years ago
@bigdaddyweave423 there purpose is to reveal Gods power to the lost masses
mr44doom 1 year ago
@bigdaddyweave423 The two witnesses are moses and elijah, the old and the new testaments esp. during the french revolution. It was the pinnacle of atheism, the word of God was hidden (spiritual 'Sodom & Egypt) for 3 1/2 years.
Also see Ps. 119:105 & Zech 4:6. Do a g-search on Revelation 11 & the french revolution.
andiroo42 1 year ago
@SOPChurch "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" God is sending the strong delusion to who? To those who, "received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." =UNBELIEVERS. There is a delusion NOW from SATAN, but we MUST stay the course. Again, this STRONG DELUSION is from God, not Satan and is for a reason. PRE-TRIB or POST TRIB; I TRUST GOD TO KEEP ME (2 Thes 3:3, Jude 1:24, Rev 3:10) not the other way around. KEEP THE FAITH!
MessiahSaves 1 year ago
@MessiahSaves The strong delusion is when the Fallen Watchers return after being dug up to pretend to be "aliens" to help bring in the Anti-Christ's 7 yr. New World Order. Don't fall for it!
Do NOT take the RFID REAL IDs, Verichips, nor Somark tattoos.
th3w4tchm4n 1 year ago
@th3w4tchm4n the strong delusion is when you dnt get beamed up and you have an axe to your neck many will bail out at that moment because they were not prepared. make sense now
mr44doom 1 year ago
@SOPChurch Very true!!!!
locotiger 1 year ago
@SOPChurch ...the elect are the jews who will become christians...christians were never spoken of as the"elect"...the Elect always were classified as Jewish...the bride are the christians today...the book of Mattew was written for the Jews who will face the great trib...Satan cannot decieve the world as well as he wants to as long as the true church is on earth...but when the salt is gone, Satan will be happy to murder the Jews/Elect that will finally understand
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ruthtemple1 1 year ago
Elect simply means Chosen, and all of Yahweh's children are considered His chosen. Paul teaches believers in Messiah are grafted into Israel, not the other way around! He says in Eph 2:12-13 :"and that at that time you (non-Jews) were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you (non-Jews) who were once afar off are made near by the blood of Christ."
ruthtemple1 1 year ago
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Yeshua (Jesus) Himself said He came only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So if you are not joined to the elect, His Chosen, Israel, you are not His at all! There are only 12 gates to enter into the New Jerusalem. They are named after the 12 Tribes of Israel. There is NO gentile gate, so which one are you planning on entering through?
ruthtemple1 1 year ago
@SOPChurch well as far as the tribulation time they will stil be many who turns to God like the 44,000 who preach.so some can still be saved then deceived.the post theory is realy a yoyo theory.i dont see jesus punishing the saved with the wicked.his wrath isnt with us but the wicked.if jesus had to leave before the holy spirit came then wouldnt the holyspirit have to leave so satan could come?they are many things to consider before saying there isnt a rapture.
davymatheny 1 year ago
@SOPChurch BECAUSE THE "CHURCH" IS A DIFFERENT GROUP OF BELIEVERS THAN THE "ELECT". IF "PRE-TRIB" IS CORRECT THE CHURCH WILL BE RAPTURED, THEN THE PEOPLE WHO GET SAVED OUT OF THE GREAT TRIB ARE CALLED TRIBULATION SAINTS. BUT MANY GROUPS ARE REFERRED TO IN THE BIBLE AS "ELECT"- ISRAEL, ANGELS, JEWS, GENTILES ECT...
destroytheNWO2d 1 year ago
@SOPChurch Does the elect not refer to the 144000 Jews that are sealed during the tribulation?
Johnbag7 1 year ago
@0871368021 And that is exactly what you are supposed to do. We look for HIS COMING, not the coming of the Antichrist. We are to be AWARE of the enemies tactics,but we must be about living for Christ & spreading the Gospel message. Some are infatuated with going through the tribulation & fighting the Antichrist, but that is not our mission. Christ did not give us that mission.
One thing is for certain, we will find out soon enough if Pre-Trib or Post-Trib is correct. Keep your faith in Christ!
MessiahSaves 1 year ago
@MessiahSaves amen friend, and i still lean towards pre-trib, though not dogmatic and obnoxious about it..i could easily be wrong, being prepared everyday to meet the Lord is a safe place to be...full of oil, wicks trimmed.... God Bless you and thanks for your encouragement. :)
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021 you are very welcome. May God bless you as well!
MessiahSaves 1 year ago
whoa on 1st of jan 2000 all planetary computers were synchronized. we entered an electronic new world order. now the man can run the 5 continents of the world with 4 men. can you see the deception here, and the scale.
wychoba 2 years ago
Just for the mere fact that the title is the "prophecy club" makes me cautious of whatever he is going to say, wonder if the prophets of old had such a "club"
zigzag1239 2 years ago
ive watched a lot of their videos and i find them very educational and entertaining but they lost me on this one they build their whole entire ministry on obscure verses and texts and you would think they would be pre-trib but their not also they started to lose me when i heard them call each other apostles lol
phatmatt1176 2 years ago
I didn't watch it, maybe I will go back and see what they have to say. I think there are only 12 apostles and I think Paul was self appointed, what do you think?
zigzag1239 2 years ago
in other videos they introduce each other as apostles and prophets lol by definition an apostle is someone who actually saw the Lord Jesus Christ so paul was the last one. i still like there videos they are interesting and your not going to see some of this stuff anywhere else
phatmatt1176 2 years ago
I believe I have it all figured out: the rapture IS pre-trib (there are a ton of scriptures that suggest this)... however, WW3 will occur before the 7 year trib and Satan had it planned this way, therefore, when the nuclear weapons start falling and the rapture hasn't yet occured, don't be discouraged, the 7 year trib begins when the antichrist signs the 7 year treaty with Israel, which occurs AFTER WW3. The rapture should occur at around this time... WW4 is the battle of Armageddon, in trib.
gymguy25 2 years ago
lol You have it all figured out? But what about what the *Bible* has already had figured out for nearly 2 thousand years?
YounaTuber 2 years ago
ok darlin, i'm listening. and the first red flag came up. he is telling preachers to be worried about the check book,,, that should be the last thing ever worried about. sound doctrine should be first. well after devoting a life time to our relationship with JESUS.,,, then sound doctrine...
evcrawfish 2 years ago