Egyptians and Mesopotamians at that time where a very seperate and distinct racial group. I hate people who leach off of others work because there a similar skin colour.
The people in Iraq known as the Marsh Arabs are believed to be the modern day descendants of the Sumerians and Babylonians. Look up some info on the Marsh Arabs.
"the first humans to develope sophisticated music" .. . yet many thousands of years later your race produces that rap and hip hop swill, .. while those inferior European cave dwellers who craweld on all fours and thought the earth was flat have produced Mozart and Bach !
"the first humans to develope sophisticated music" .. . yet many thousands of years later your race produces that rap and hip hop swill, .. while those inferior European cave dwellers who craweld on all fours and thought the earth was flat have produced Mozart and Bach !
Lol....where have their wonderful advancements gone? I am native American. Could I make irrational claims that because some of the eastern peoples looked like some of the native Americans, that they are all native Americans? No. Egyptians...all Mesopotamians...they were all a very different and distinct ethnic group. There are decorations on the walls of Egypt that show Egyptians standing next to nubians....and they are completely different. Hair types are not proof of racial heritage.
„to the ancient people dwelling along the southern and southwestern shores of the Caspian Sea, in the region which was called Caspiane after them.”
„During the later Achaemenid period, the Kassites, referred to as "Kossaei", lived in the mountains to the east of Media and were one of several "predatory" mountain tribes that regularly extracted "gifts" from the Achaemenid Persians, according to a citation of Nearchus by Strabo (13.3.6).”
And you know they'll never stop trying and they'll never stop believing lies and half-truths such as this video. Pretty sad that they can't just accept their history of being tribal people with really not much intellect and move on from there.
@BloodTar Yeah, you could PROVE to them that they weren't the dominant race in Egypt etc and they would just say that *whitey* is just covering up the true evidence lol. You kinda gotta feel sorry for the poor little things =/
"The term pre-Indo-European languages relates to several (not necessarily related) non-classified languages that existed in prehistoric Europe and South Asia before the arrival of bearers of Indo-European languages."
"Old Europe is a term coined by archaeologist Marija Gimbutas to describe what she perceives as a relatively homogeneous and widespread pre-Indo-European Neolithic culture in Europe,"
Old European cultures: the Pelasgians, Minoans, Leleges, Iberians, Etruscans and Basques etc...
after the sea people destruction the hitties were so weak that the empire collapsed and semitics-assyrians flooded it… after sea people destruction then came the semitics Neo-Hittite Syro-Hittite...
Don’t confuse Laitns and Etruscans(agglutinavie lang) are two different so whatever… the Etruscans had iron weapons also they fought a lot against the sea people and they could stop them unlike the Hitties...
@JohnGoldboom The origins of the Etruscans are lost in prehistory.Historians have no literature,no texts of religion or philosophy;therefore much of what is known about this civilization is derived from grave goods &tomb findingsThe main hypotheses are that they are indigenous, probably stemming from the Villanovan culture or from the Near East.Etruscan expansion was focused both to the north beyond the Apennines &into Campania.Some small towns in the 6th century BC where relation you mention
Death of a civilisation comes down to mainly arrogance hedonism in civilisation... when they think they know it all and have it all.. then they get taken over by people who outsmart them.
At that time the aurea of the planet was not so contaminated by thoughts as it is nowdays, for the mental activity was inferior and the magnetism almost inexistent. The astral world, however, was and it still is populated by intelligences which compose the universe. The offspring of an irrational will be irrational; you humans are the children of these intelligences; and the moment you are all experiencing is wonderful, for you will remember that you don't belong in there, you are all from here.
The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty,liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke,The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back, and a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Guti rule.Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians, Badawy notes,The Akkadian dynasty (2350-2150 BC)marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia,a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians (2000 BC)
To me it is absolutely indifferent, what barbarians came to ask to Sumer of wisdom and knowledge. Exactly as to me all equally - there were there ancestors of Kurds or weren't, an essence of the matter not in it: the Problem that these barbarians didn't concern neither Sumer, nor to sumerian to language.
@hunnoturk The Kingdom of the Lion in tell mazon near Amoda north syria The discoveries of 150 years of scientific archeology have made such peoples as the Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Akkadians and Hittites into familiar names. Caches of tablets up to 5000 years old found in ruins and in tells—the mounds that dot the Fertile Crescent, layered with the remains of successive settlements—have given an ever more complex and more complete picture of the history of early civilizations.
first mention of the Kurds in history was about 3,000 BC, under the name Gutium, as they fought the Summerians(Spieser)Later around 800 BC, the IndoEuropean Median tribes settled in the Zagros mountain region and coalesced with the Gutiums & thus the modern Kurds speak from as Aryan language (Morris). The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon, a Greek mercenary, as he retreated from Persia with ten thousand men in 401 BChe says of the Kurds, "These people, lived in the mountains and were very war-like
@samioa We investigated Parthian language. This language substantially Turkic language. Understand me correctly: In all ancient people Sumerian-Turkis were operating caste.
In ancient China, in Ancient Egypt, in Eurasia, in ancient India, in all Central Asian and Mesopotamic peoples= rooling a caste from Sumerian-Turkis.
Bullshit, The Parthians spoke a Northern Iranian language which means ''Heroic and Middle Persian ''Pahlavi'' even today very few people in southern Iran still speak Middle Persian. Sumerians, Parthians, Scythians it has nothing to do with turks, i'm sick of those propaganda spreading idiots like you, I can tell you right now, you dont know a damn about Parthian language, infact I speak Pahlavi I know it and I can tell how little different it is from modern Persian.
@samioa At you will be opening wonderful ahead much. It is necessary to you to familiarize with the PRESENT history of a civilization on the Earth.
All yours squeals, snivels and cries are inappropriate on this site. Be engaged in searches of the present history, and you necessarily will find out that all nations of the world had an operating caste from Sumerian-Turkis.
@samioa ''Pahlavi'' the latest has no unequivocal perusal. Any linguist can't read texts of this language confidently enough. And nevertheless: Why it you consider that Persians, Kurds, Parthian, and the other barbarians who had the operating caste from Turkis-sumerian though in what have succeeded independently? Read primary sources. And probably become hardly more cleverly.
Ohhh? Now we are Barbarians? At least we weren't rapists and murderers as you Turks were, What are your proofs that the Sumerians were Turkic? I don't need any proofs about the Parthians because I am already 100% sure that they were Iranian and that anything you say is bullshit.
@samioa Check up your blood, most likely you dravidian, instead of the Aryan. To be the Aryan it is necessary to have Turkic northern gaplogroup R1a, or south=Мesopotamien Turkic gaplogroup R1b.
Aryan has nothing to do with DNA, the first time Aryan was mentioned is in the Sanskrit documents and they mentioned nothing about DNA or looks, there you have your answer, they didn't know about DNA that time. The second time was by Darius in his inscriptions ''I am an Aryan king'' he didn't mention anything about looks or DNA either so what the hell is it that you're talking about? Please don't mention this Hitler propaganda.
About Iran, once again DNA has nothing to do with being Aryan, it was refereed to Noble people in the Ancient times which were the Iranian people. However southern Iranians have about 10% R1a DNA and 23% R1b DNA, while Northern Iranians (Gilaki& Mazandaranis) have 30% R1a DNA and more than 25% R1b. Don't bullshit me.
@hunnoturk Subartu (zibary)Assyria is roughlydefined as an entity since around2000 BC lasting until 609 BC but the periods defining Assyria's fame are relatively short,during the Middle period,ca.300-1197,ca100 years&ca1115-1076 ca40 years,&during the Neo period ca.884-824,ca.60 years&ca.745-631,ca.130 years
The most ancient name used for the region was Subartu (in Akkadian),or Shubir in Sumerian.Zibary kurdish tribes descending from him The first occurrence of Assyriacame in the14th century
@hunnoturkKassites( Kaspi ) were an ancient people known primarily for establishing the second, or middle, Babylonian dynasty;they were believed to have originated in the Zagros Mountains but secured holdings within the Tigris-Euphrates valley on the northern frontiers of Babylonia &later established the second Babylonian dynasty.although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years,it is probable that the first Kassite kings reigned in Babylonia,bedouin dont fake history
@hunnoturk real you foolish where turk mongols aryan and y hypologroup R1a1, you mongols and if you talk anout tatar they different to turk and mongols , you dont know what you are , same time saying l am descending from mesopotamia now you claim aryan ,you are any thing except aryan , back to your real anestor mongols and north great wall ,you haven't thing in mesopotamia and aryan, how interpidly to claim aryan . why you shame to say i am turk descending from mongols to rest yourself
Oh and for your information, R1a is not even close to Turkic, Most european countries have 60%+ R1a DNA, and Turkey has about 10% or less. However in Northern Turkey which there lives caucasian people the rate is higher, and we got the Kurds of course. Oh and also, Turks were originally Central asian looking until they came to Anatolia and mixed with the Native anatolians who were an indo european people, and later the Albanians, Greeks and Slavic people, so stop barking about DNA,
Even the so called ''Huns'' It's not even sure that they're Turkic, it hasn't been proved. And you make no sence, the Sumerians, along with the Elamites and Dravidians were the Native people on the Middle East before the Aryans and the Semetic people arrived, now why the hell would you randomly aspect that they were a Turkic tribe, Turkic people who originated from Central Asia why just why?
@samioa Now in Tatarstan carry out the grandiose action on a blood test of medieval burial places of Mongols = (MEN-GOLs = "I'm Slave Supreme", on-Tatar).
90 % of burial places of Mongols have Mediterranean European gaplogroup.
@samioa The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as urkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns.Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia,central asisa was iranian peoples befor turk invader
is kurdish an agglutinative language? Why are you still trying to find a link between sumerians and kurds.Kurdish is an indo-eu language not agglutinative.Sumerians&Turks have more common in language grammatically.They've hundreds of words in common too.Turks migrated to asia from west,they used to live in anatolia and europe b4 asia.Dont try to create a fake history for yourself, be yourself and proud of that,stealing is not good Goran.
@zzeynepp18 oh you misunderstand sumerian history, biside sumerian there were Zagros peoples(Hurriann
,Subartu,Lullbi Gutian,Kassite or Ka-spe, any one of there indo-aryan had important roll in sumerian &mesopotamia if you study history of mesopotamia you seen they rulled mesopotamia except akkadian 150 yeas &dansty of hammorabi 150 years,finaly the assyrian about 300 years while the Gutian ruled 200 yeas &kassite rulled 576 years and MEDES nd persian empire mic era 7th century or 1200 years
Today's kurdish lanuage is an indo-eu language not agglutinative.You say you are aryan and speak indo-eu language but you insist to find a link between sumerians although it is very clear that sumerians were not indo-eu people,and their language was agglutinative.I dont mean today's kurds are related to turks of course because you were assimilated and genetically you have %13 semitic dna.I understand you wanna be aryan or european but isnt it emberassing?
@zzeynepp18 lol l said purly aryan bcouse befoe 4000years ago we keep same language and kurdish is one of lranian language and a group of indo-lranian language,lol persian now depending on kurdish grammer.the you dont now real meaning of aryan,it mean worrior in time of GUTI (Kurdi) & lran mmeaning land of aryan. you dont havent any knowledge of kurdish socity we dont mairry arab or marrage to arab,then Y-hapologroup transfer from father to child,from where your tatio & how say kurd assimliated?
you said kurdish is agglutinative right? it was you who said that.And you also say that kurdish is an indo-eu language. The sumerian language was agglutinative not like kurdish.The sumerian language was assimilated by persians.There is no pure race in middle east.There are millions of kurds in turkey,i dont see anything common in appearece between kurds and europeans.It shows you mixed.If you say you never mixed it shows kurds are extremely racist.R U proud of that?
@zzeynepp18 lol sumerian civilation not mean nation may peoples to participate in sumer civilation like GUTI AND SEMIRE AKKADIAN AND ELAMITE AND KASSITE AND HITTIT AND MITANNI AND OMURITEA l said you dont have knowledge in sumerian history many word od sumerian is guti and kassite couse the rulled long time, lol sumerian extint language, lol in that time persian dont appear on stage mesopotamia they appear after they coup on the Medes empire, you know kurdish&persian have 95% common words
Listen the city i live is a galatian(celtic) city in anatolia,does it make me german or english?I know i have turkic and native anatolian ancestors, when i look at mirror and my family i see german looking people not asian,but i never wanna be a european or try to be like them. Why are you trying to insult people and to be superior others?Just look at the history,what did kurds do?They lived in mesapotamia for thousands of years but i cannot see a pyramid,a famous philosoph..etc.
@zzeynepp18 oh you understand me wrong l dont want to insuilt any nation l decend mongols in mongolia so on , and when l say kurd are aryan race &language not mean the kurd is superior over other natian only to proven our natin as turk goverment arab deny our nation& they try to assimialting kurdish as turk goverment try for last 80 years,we have our nation with propd deepth history &language abale to assimialite science word now & in future . if you Ciltic that mean your ancestor are Hurrian
listen my friend,turks and kurds lived in these lands togather in a perfect brotherhood and they mixed with eachother.I have many kurds in my family,in every family there are kurds and turks here.You can blame government for the last 80 years,but there are kurds and turks in our government too,you cant blame turkish people here.Look at Van earthquake,thousands of turks are trying to help their kurdish brothers,they dont care any race crab.Please stop talking that race crab,please
@zzeynepp18 lol l to continue to disaster and your goverment refused forign aid in first 3 day and after pression they late the forign aid , if they late may they save many peoples for died ,real the turkish peoples was so happey , in internet l watch many youtube abnd him comment how they happey for that natuer disaster.l said there were no nation racial like turkish , that lead turkey to destroyed him elf at fanaly . any one marry turk we dont account him kurdish this is fact kurd is kurd
I dont care if kurds have a history or not,they are our brothers thats it. I dont care who my ancestors were,maybe i am celtic but i prefer to call myself Turk.Even if i have 1% turkic dna or not icall myself Turk.This is the identity i've chosen for myself,being Turk is getting us united.Turkish ideology is not racist,it makes people united.A kurd can be turk but a turk cannot be kurd.Because your ideology is racist and feodal.This is the reason i dont like all mid-east ideology.
@zzeynepp18 by same way we kudish if we have only 0,01 kurdish DNA,you proud in you mongols race in same way we proiud to our aryan race.you turk & mongols race that the hisory said turkic invasion anatolia in 1071 AD , no evry one of turkish commenity responsible of him goverment.couse you claim you are demoratic country &you selection the goverment &they lie never known meaning of democracy,they contenous of all goverment rulled turkey only they play in emotion of simple in lslamic ideology
we r proud of being turks because it is the identity everyone can choose,a kurd can be a turk but a turk cannot be a kurd.If you search the islamic ideology in turkey you will see the most religious fanatic muslims and the leaders are kurdish like said-i nursi or the leader of nakhshibendis.The arabesk culture and arabic elements were conveyed to turkey by kurdish people you can see that clearly in music,art..etc if you search.
@zzeynepp18 l am more proud for l am Kurd becouase my blood is kurdish and my lineage is kurd , lol its not choce l born l am kurdish never kurd changto turk and reverse to vererse, religion defferent to nationalizm you drive out his family out turkey and Neuresy die homless & buril him in unkown place &any one know where him grav no mind me if any one choce to be mongols we kurd have our lineage and we proud with our culltuer and language, nnever highborn change learn never high bourn change
if kurdish ideology would be that simly and uniting,believe me i would be proud of saying 'i am a kurd' too,but there is nothing like' if we have only 0,01 kurdish dna i am proud of that' thing in your culture.If you would be so you would call us brothers not enemies.Turks think that kurds are their brothers but kurds dont think that way because you are racist.The main problem is that difference between our ideology.
@zzeynepp18 turk occupie kurdish land and evry day we pouring blood and youngth kurdish arrested& ito imprison there were thousands kurdish in prsion,you talk about palasitinian&persecute kurdish every hour,you thought peoples dont know how are fascist .turk never thinking to be brother & not will be,couse brother dont forbed him brouther to talking his mother language,look IN HISTORY THE AKKADIAN persecute then the Gutian overthrow him forever,assyrian do same thing the MEDES fall him forever
turks are attacking to iraq for a reason,PKK.You are helping pkk to kill innocent people.They are killing civil innocent people and you are supporting. There are thousands of pkk terrorist hiding in north iraq,and you,US and israel are supporting them,they give weapons to them,they are conveying heroin to europe also.They killed 40000people,it is you who only thinks yourselves.For 30 years you ve been helping them,you dont have right to complain about that.
@zzeynepp18 this talk are duty of your goverment ,late your TV and radio advertisement proupagenda its not you job,PKK are fighter for freedom they kill soldier,they dont killing any innocent peoples ,that proupagenda of your goverment,they defeat from solive probem ,its our duty to support them for freedom , why urdoghan support Gaza?your goverment are big tierrorist in region . lol you part of NATO& you are severnt of lsrael and USA. HOW how many they kill its not matter more than will kill
a propaganda?,Goran it was in ankara recently a pkk explotion took place,3 people died and 34 injured,in a civil place civil people died.They also killed a pregnant woman an a 5 years old child too.These are very new events search it.Thousand of people withnessed that, was it a hallusination? as long as you believe that way you dont have right to complain about,all terrorists and and their supporters deserve that.
@zzeynepp18 ofcourse happen badness in featuer couse the turkish deny kurdisg right and turkey have many enemies,and they exploit wherther of circumstances, how say they do it not ALqaaida, kurd struggle to get him right look iraq deny our right and howmany killed & used all wepons wven chimical wepons what was resuilt ,now kurd is balanc of lraq,if there weren't kurd the shiaha and suba well killing evry day.how much they late to solive the proble they win more,its issues of nation we will win
if you believe in democracy,why more than 90%of kurdish poppulation voted against pkk and kurdistan in the last selection ,why do they voted to live with turks if we are so bad as you mentioned? this is very confusing.Why is half of our parliament is kurdish originated even the presidents.U cannot seperate a race and give the responsibility to another race.We are not living that way Goran.
@zzeynepp18 simply couse they are not free for real what they want, you never understand what meaning democracy, how you believe lsamic party believe to democracy ,lslam itself non democracy, urdoghan is streach of ataturk. the the money &self behalf and authoutywill play in the election,what is worth ofperliment in facist system, they know cant able to do any thing without change the constitution,you constitution that ataturk putted in 1924, you are so nerrow thought & dont know democracy play
ooh you know democracy very good now right? US killed thousand of iraq people to bring you democracy.At least we find democracy by ourselves,if you wanna hate someone hate the US who killed your people and use you as a puppet,When you say 'you' do you mean only Turks?lol,99% of kurds voted erdogan,let me inform you that they are still being ruled by landlords,i guess i dont need an advice from you especially about democracy:))
@zzeynepp18 yes USA shorted they way to democracy , he fall Saddam in 17 day , if they dont do that we must pay evry day 100 sacrifice as syrian do nowaday and whole world watching, how say there democracy in turkey , they dont kill any one without reason why they dont kill any kurdish,yes l mean turk becouse we talk about turkey you wanrt to talk about Japan,if 99% voted to urdughan it mean whole turkey are kurdiash lol we know how thety play in election all lie without change the constitution
@zzeynepp18 you again understanding wrong couse the european imigratiom from region to europe they can saying they descending from GUTIAN orCILTIC not inverse anatolian peoples befor ciltic&greeks was HURRIAN in anatolia in 3rd millenium &befor that& they proend-aryan or original og indo-european that discovered in in last few yeas ago,these Hurrian play importent roll in mesopotamia &syria &anatolia in religion &cultuer,what turk do tell me one city established by turk but thet destroyed cities
@zzeynepp18 not proveso that blue and green and gray eyes war aryan.couse when we read (ancient aryan history ) we see charecter have brown eyes , l can send you email of that if you like to read all SAGA of Zoroaster , from that saga you can imagenation all kurdish wear and music and dancing caming from saga and hairtage from that time of aryan . for that l can say only kurdish preserving aryan tradation of evry delicate detailing of aryan convention, even persian can't dancing as kurd dance
people who live in the same place for thousands of years cannot improve anything easily unless they migrate from somewhere or mix with other people.People who migrate convey different cultures place to place.Mixing with people and different cultures make a culture more weathy.This is the reason i cannot understand why you are so proud of not having mixed and migrated.That only makes people narrow-minded and racist.I believe in you about aryans but i dont like to talk about race
@zzeynepp18 The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea and miditerrannean sea ,it also came into contact with sino-ttibtan in today india,and came into contact with the Altaic (Turkic,mongol) and china,
The semitic peoples moved from the area of the eastern red sea taking thousands along the line from the red sea to the mediterranean sea this was aryanland ,that mean we was indigenous peioples
@zzeynepp18 The Kurds are an ethnic group who have historically inhabited the mountainous areas to the south of Caucasus (Zagros and Taurus mountain ranges), a geographical area collectively referred to as Kurdistan. Most Kurds speak an Indo-European language belonging to the Iranian branch.
There are various hypotheses as to predecessor populations of the Kurds, such as the Carduchoi (khurrti) of Classical Antiquity.
@JohnGoldboom The Mitanni were an Indo-European (Hurrian) people whose kingdom in northern Mesopotamia flourished from about 1600 (Second Intermediate Period) until it was conquered by the Hittite King Suppiluliumas during the reign of Akhenaten. At its peak, the empire stretched from Kirkuk (ancient Arrapkha) and the Zagros mountains in western Iran in the east, through Assyria to the Mediterranean sea in the west. Its center was in the region of the Khabur River,
@JohnGoldboom The descendants of the historic Subareans are stated by Prof. Izady to be found amongst the Zubari Kurds, who still inhabit the same geographical region as the ancient Subareans:The kingdom of Mushku is now believed to have brought about the final downfall of the Hittites in Anatolia.Their name survives in the city of Mush/Mus in north-central Kurdistan The Subaru who operated from the areas north of modern Arbil historic Kurdish tribal confederacy of Zubari,
„the east they had good relations with the Kassites.”
so all agglutinatvie not Indo european.
„The kingdom of Mushku” who?
Eventually the Hittie empire collapsed when the indo european sea people sacked/destroyed Hattustat. many from Hattustat actually fled to the Etrusc-Rasna empire...
so I don't think Hittie was indo eruoepan etiher but accroing to m.s. it was..
"The Hittite language Anatolian branch of the Indo-European language family.”
@JohnGoldboom yes mitanni was part of Hurrian soeaking state they have same with all Zagros peoples ,Ka-spi (Kassite), Guti . Subartu, and Lullubi. they all indo-european language but pro aryan ,l have evidance they speak even kurdish language and lzdy is best evidance of mitanni in religiol of mithra and symbol peacock .
the kingdom of mushku was Subartu kingdom ,the mushku/mush (mus) city in turkey (موش)
they hittite collapsed as reason of was of migration of wave of aryan Mannianian &Meds
@JohnGoldboom The relationship between Hurrian and Subarean has already been mentioned, and the language of the Urartians, who played an important role from the end of the 2nd millennium to the 8th century BC, is likewise closely related to Hurrian. According to the Soviet scholars Igor M. Diakonov and Sergei A. Starostin,the Eastern Caucasian languages are an offshoot of the Hurrian-Urartian group.the Hurrian was pro-aryan languagr,the Hurrian was established of Arbil &Arrapha & Nuzi&Uriksh
@JohnGoldboom The Hurrians enter the orbit of ancient Middle Eastern civilization toward the end of the 3rd millennium BC.They arrived in Mesopotamia from the north or the east,but it is not known how long they had lived in the peripheral regions.There is a brief inscription in Hurrian language from the end of the period of Akkad, while that of King Arishen of Urkish Nawar .The language of the Hurrians must have belonged to a widespread group of ancient Middle Eastern languages.
@JohnGoldboom It is a part of Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990, Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani.
@JohnGoldboom nice if that right where your source,read sea peoples history where they mention& date of they sacked / destroyed it,Hattusat destroyed by ASSyrian,then Khaldi rising&absorb the hittite&mitanni whom they descovered the iron which latin drived from him name,read more about Etruscan then talk.all Zagros peoples have relation with other,HURRIAN -SUBARTU MITANNI KHALDI& LULLUBI &GUTI,KA-SPI (KASSITE)&THEY ARE PRO- ARYAN,LOL THERE WERE CLAY TABLIT IN KURDISH LANGUAGE AS KURD USE NOWADAY
You either aboriginal Zagros tribe or Aryan you can’t be both lol get it.
I don1t know it could be that the kurd lanaguge stucture changed to indo eruopean some point in history but the ancient Kurds were agglutinaive speakers same as Hurrians,Sumerians...
wiki:
„Civil war and rivalling claims to the throne, combined with the external threat of the Sea Peoples weakened the Hittites and by 1160 BC, the Empire had collapsed.”
@JohnGoldboom 1 part(The majority of Europe speaks an Indo-European language that appears to have its roots in a Proto-Language that is believed to have originated between the Caucasus Mountains and ancient Mesopotamia. Caucasian "race of people" is an invention in 1795 by Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, a German, who based his conclusion on the beauty of a Georgian female skull found near Mount Caucasus. These people believe the Caucasian people began to fracture about 5,000 B.C.
@JohnGoldboom they exposure to invader assyrian and that was end of bronz age and starting the iron age , the Khaldi thier was mitanni tribes and ruled region and whom they descover the iron ,and mannian in west of them final the Medes rise in north and northern west capable to alliance all tribes of Zagros-turos and establish medes kingdom and take akbadana (hanadan ) then destroyed assyrian empire and estabilshed medes empire which was streached from halas river to afghanistan
Yes but all unknow not just Etruscans but all the Kassites documents also completely missing and many others so ancient history is unknown becasue „someone” destroyed it all…
Today Iraq and Afghanistan both important archological sites but U.S. soldiers are destroying/stealing all the artifacts they find so it’s still on going…
I think Iron was already used earlier than 1200B.C.....
„ a dagger with an iron blade found in a Hattic tomb in Anatolia, dating from 2500 BC.”
@JohnGoldboom The Kassites(Ka-spi) were an ancient people known primarily for establishing the second, or middle, Babylonian dynasty; they were believed (perhaps wrongly) to have originated in the Zagros Mountains of Iran. First mentioned in Elamite texts of the late 3rd millennium BC, they penetrated into Mesopotamia in the 2nd millennium, Chronicles and king lists are imprecise, and although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years,
both Kassites and Hyksos probably all came from Asia steppe cultures (like Sctyhian,Hun.. ) they came with lots of horses and chariots so preety obvious….
Kassites:
”they were unrelated to the later Indo-European/Iranic Medes and Persians who came to dominate the region a thousand years later.”
Kaspi=Caspi(ans) so not Kassites..
„The word Caspian is derived from the name of the Caspi an ancient people that lived to the south west of the sea in Transcaucasia”
@JohnGoldboom original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990, Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani. Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arrapha."
@JohnGoldboom This would have been everything, but the Kassites (Ka-spi),which seem to have been semi-autonomous in the Achaemenid Empire,unexpectedly return in our sources in the first weeks of the year 323, when the Macedonian king Alexander sets out from Ecbatana to Babylon, and on his way encounters, defeats, and destroys the Cossaeans. The campaign was extremely bloody, and Alexander's contemporaries thought that their king was venting his emotions because his lover Hephaestion had died.
„The Caspians have generally been regarded as a pre-Indo-European people….
„The latest evidence of Kassite culture is a reference by the 2nd century geographer Ptolemy,
who described "Kossaei" as living in the Susa region, adjacent to the "Elymeans"”
So a few Kassites were still around during Parthian times …btw The uruk kingdom was also still standing during Parthia and the sumerian language was still used by some priests after it totaly disappeared …
@JohnGoldboom The Kassites also maintained the Indo-Iranian Aryan tradition of being traders in lapis lazuli and gold (see Aryan Trade). The only known ancient source of lapis lazuli was Badakshan in present day Afghanistan and in the heart of ancient Aryan lands. The Zagros mountains had ore deposits of iron and copper which the Kassites extracted and used to manufacture vehicles such as chariots and carts. Along with horses, they exported the chariots in exchange for other raw materials.
that caucasian-white theory is probably totally outdated …
origin of the white people I don't know...
not sure if all white people have same origin but white people lived in europe long before 5000B.C. for sure..
Many theories on indo eruopean origin
Wiki: The Proto-Indo-European Urheimat hypotheses
Armenian hypothes, Kurgan etc..
„The only thing known for certain is that the language must have been differentiated into unconnected daughter dialects by the late 3rd millennium BC”
@JohnGoldboom According to linguistics & internal evidence of the Avesta, the Irano-Aryan language family originated high in the splendid Hind Kush mountains of Afghanistan. Historical data indicates that one of these Proto-Iranic-speaking tribes was denominated 'Gut' or 'Got'. This ancient Iranic root denominated "warrior as the erudite Waddell notes, "the affixed title of Gut or "Goth" or 'Warrior'" (Waddell 1929) One branch of this legendary Gut or warrior tribe migrated to India
you are always trying to convince people as if you are the big-brother of europeans to be respected and supported by them.Do you really need that? you are collecting some information and manupulating historical facts.Kurds are kurds,what if you dont have a history,doest it so bad? you are not inferior or superior,just as normal as others.Is it so hard to be just a human being,aryan race crab is sth was developed by hitler,is it your path?
@zzeynepp18 yes Kurd are Kurd we dont like to be european as you understanded,they imigration from Zagros - turos mountian to europe for example german and france and sweeden descendeding from Gutian here was in zagros befor they migrated to europe and Clte descending from HURIAN whom they was cenreted on KHabur river and russian was descending from Subartu whom they was inorth Arbil,whome all these ancient kingdom was part of orignal LEGEDER hurrian which proven they esist perhistoric 1995
@zzeynepp18 Who were the Hurrians? We know that they lived during the third millenium,at the same time as the Sumerians in the south and the Semitic Eblaites to the northwest,explains Buccellati. Linguists believe there are connections between the ancient Hurrian language contemporary Georgian. It is possible that the Hurrians emerged from the Caucasus region and crossed into the Anatolian plateau, a region Kelly-Buccellati calls "the outer Fertile Crescent."from medetrrenian sea to capcsian sea
@zzeynepp18 kurdish an agglutinative language cousre kurd exsist in mesopotamiaeven befor sumerian there were many word still kurd ues it or comperhednding it like (KUR) its important sumerian word ,in kurdish have same meaning in past & now it mean grave or deep,or land or montian even it mean son.you have right couse you dont have any knowledge about kurdish language andmain kurdish dialect,you can't compar with turkish language wgich have more half of region word like kurdish ,arabic &persian
I believe kurds're also proto turkic people they're also a part of turan,they are our brothers,but the kurdish today's not related to turks or sumerians.It's more close to persian language because they lost their roots and assimilated by persians.I know kurdish a little,maybe the old kurdish was agglutinative but not this one.The closest language to sumerian is turkic language today,there are many sumerian words in kurdish too because they also have turkic and sumerian ancestors
@zzeynepp18 lol lurdish is purely aryan in race & language you dont understand kurdish to send you rare clay tablet inscription in15 th BC century there were figuer from 1 to 9 its just we use nowaday,l searcched all indo-europian language except india &afgan and tajek and iran there wasn't othere use these noun for that l can say the kurdish is purest aryan language couse it found in kurdistan,kurd hadn't any relation to turk not in language &race,turk belong to mongols race & to altic language
Goran we are living in 2011,please stop that race crab.Only the primitive people are talking about that now.Look all world suffered because of race crab.People are trying to improve multiculturalism,but you are still talking about race.I dont hate kurdish people but i really do hate these kurdish ideology.You can be proud of livin in the same land for 10000years,without going anywhere,without mixing anyone,but you also dont have anything like pyramids,monuments..etc.
@zzeynepp18 tell you goverment to klate kurdish learn in him mother llanguage and they singing him soung and to free estabish him party and they live free without fear for distinction l can tell you there were no nation racial than turkish , you forgget you forbeden kurdish languageand cultuer for 80 years
you speak of muliticularizm and forbeden kurdish language inner turkey , how you thought, you know this language us you claim turkish is fomed political after ottmani defeat in ww1by ataturk
seems like you have never been to turkey thats why you know everything wrong.No turkish people are happy because of that,they are sending aid in the fastest way.Many people you see dont like kurds have some reasons for that,in the marmara earthquake we lost about 100.000people and the kurdish people were trying to steal the stuff of the death bodies,it is not something which can be forgotten easily and the pkk is killing innocent people.Anyway this is another subject.
@zzeynepp18 l am so sure in my knowledge , l think you never watching to mirror to see yourself in real, you see other but dont see yourself, they happy l saw TV and swa mola was praying fro more and watched many youtube updated by turkish dont lie you can watch youtubes and read commentsm . lol you steal anatolia more 500 years and you indictment as your goverment do also , how you know that thiefs was kurdish in big city. you mean turk all angel and turkey emputy of thief, shame you speak this
:) goran,according to the genetical studies anatolian turks are 95%native anatolian people like hittits and lydians..etc.Do you see any asian looking face in turkey?:))this is something very clear but you dont wanna see the fact.Even kurds themselves say that there is only 2 million real turks in turkey.Tell me what is 95% then?who is invader?who invaded your lands?how many turks are living in kurdish cities?The most valuable properties were given to kurds by Ataturk,do u know that?
@zzeynepp18 but hittite our ancestor they was tribes of Hurrian Who were the Hurrians? We know that they lived during the third millenium,at the same time as the Sumerians in the south &the Semitic Eblaites to the northwest, explains Buccellati.Linguists believe there are connections between the ancient Hurrian language contemporary Georgian.It is possible that the Hurrians emerged from the Caucasus region crossed into the Anatolian plateau,in 1995 excavation him capial in tell mazon near Amuda
Being mongolians is not somethhing insulting,Japans also have mongolian ancestors,do you think they are inferior?I dont think so:)I told you I have celtic and greek ancestors,all anatolian turks have native ancestors more than90%,we are living in our homeland,it is kurds who are living in our cities.Turkish identitiy is something to get people united,kurds lost that chance and dint understand us.We would be anatolian nationalist not Turkish,it would be worse for them
@zzeynepp18 l mean mongols to appear you are invasion anatolia and fall the ayyubite state in syria and anatoia those mongols savage only they destroed cities you can see all ruic in anatoia is remain of him barbarian and savage , japan is not mongols couse they tried to occcupied japan too they fall ,l know only 4% of turkey pupolation are mongols DNA but you claim you are turl mongols , kurd live in his land you caming from mongolia and north china go read turkic imigration wikipedia ,
of course japans are also mongolian originated,mongolians killed many turks too,they invaded turkish lands but you accept that turks are mongolian originated but not japanese:))Anyway Japanese know their origin well,you believe whatever u wanna believe.And you're missing sth,you call us 'turks' but you also accept that we are just 4% turk.You cant accept the fact,the native analotians,hittites,galatians,troyans are also anatolian turks not kurds.It is science,dna says that not me.
Goran dont tell that to a Japanese person, pls dont embarass youself,believe me Japanese are as intelligent as you are :)they know their origin more than you do.They already accept that and even love Genghis Khan too much.There is a movie 'Blue Wolf' it is a japanese-mongolian production,watch it.They dont think Mongolians are savage people.They know who they are because they were not brainwashed people by US,they are powerfull and honourfull people.
@zzeynepp18 l am not embarrass my self,the japanese intellegen peoples.waw they free how they thought and if they love or not,but they haven't relation to gendiz khan then what relation japanese to you &mongols they dont belong to same group to mongols, es couse they dont saw monols invasion him country,for him luck all ship sunk befor they reach to japanese earth.all hstorian was account the mongols was savage abd barbarian especialy lslamic historian,may turkish history mention him honorfull
@zzeynepp18 The Hurrians also Khurrites were a people of the Ancient Near East,who lived in northern Mesopotamia &areas to the immediate east & west, beginning approximately 2500 BC.They probably originated in the Caucasus & entered from the north, but this is not certain.Their known homeland was centred in Subartu, the Khabur River valley,&later they established themselves as rulers of small kingdoms throughout northern Mesopotamia &Syria.The largest &Hurrian nation was the kingdom of Mitanni.
What i am saying is truth which was seen by thousands of people but tv channels didnt show that not to insult kurds.A kurd is as free as a turk in turkey,even they many advantages compared to us.You are racist very very racist, but if turkish people began to be anatolian nationalist and sweep all turkish identity, they have all rights not to want to live with kurds.Because we didnt steal anywhere,we have been living in these lands for thousands of years.This is what genetic says.I can proove it.
kurdish ideology only represents racism,close-mindness and feodalism now.You are right here in turkey kurds never mix with others they are killing their own daughter or siter just because she loves someone from another kurdish tribe.If the husband of a woman dies they force her to get merried her husbands brother.It is called 'berdel'.Is it something to be proud of?Is being mixed that bad?All people,europeans,asians,africans,americans mixed.It is very normal.
@zzeynepp18 its kurdish socity , you can't change it sadently it need many genrelation any commentee have gioog tradtion and bad its subject havent any relation to our argument of history , that is goood to preseves kurdish community , you dont seen other commenity how women lose in commenity l think kurdish women like queen on throne , l saw woman russian and central asia woman how they lose in turkey and contry wideworld , you can ask kurdish women live bester of all women in othere commenity
we dont want to change anyone but kurds want to live with us,in our cities there are millions of them,and they are not willing to go to kurdistan region or iraq, some of them are escaping from kurdish cities because of honour killings,the position of women in kurdish society is not that good as you mentioned,we dont want a kurdish culture because it is very racist and feodalist.many regions there are still being ruling by landlords.About genetics we are also anatolians.
@zzeynepp18 you caming from mongols and occuped kurdish land and you say kurd like to live with his occupation of course they dont retun to kurdistan becouse you burn 5000 thousand village & burn him feild & house and evry thing , and all manifatuer in west and there were any worl &biussines in east,we dont want you take any kurdish culture and late it for him we need our cultuer and tought in mother language as ue do,dont talk about kurdish tradation & custome ouse you are not curator over him
Goran search the statistics please,kurdish people are forcing 13 years of girls to get married, they dont let her to marry another person from another kurdish tribe, they dont let them to go to the school.If you ask a kurdish father how many children does he have, he only counts the sons of him.They dont count women as a human being. Who do you think you are telling these things,there are 30 million kurds in turkey,i am not australian i know kurdish culture enough.
@zzeynepp18 its not your job and make yourself guardian on him they have him tradation they know behalf of him child , why you basy yourself in this subject,they know him goverment if they study or not they dont get work becouse they kurdish , forthat they work free or they go to europe to work
@zzeynepp18 how kurd proto turk and kurd never seen mongolia and havent any turkish word in his language and mongolian featuer. kurd descending from many tribes of Zagros peoples had deeoth root in ergion , if you read hitory of any of ancient history you know how kurd perservation him language along his history l we said to 1 (eka) befor 4000 years ago & now we say( eka) that from Mitanni clat tablet,tell egyptian can keep him language only befor lalan,ofcouse they covert to arabic language
my friend KURGAN is Turkish,in all tukic dialects in asia kurgan means grave. -gen,-gan,-gun.. these are turkic attictives.There are many kurgans in middle asia belong to turks.I suggest you search Turkish languages you will understand what i mean.
@zzeynepp18 ol said KUR NOT KURGAN , the central asia ancient history dont belong to turkic the invasion cenral asia in 8th AD century, befor islamic ennnvasion sassanid empire in 7th AD century the central asia was sittelment of lranian peoples and was noun Turan and was common term iranu turan , you can read TURAN ENCYCLOPEDIA to know reallty of term Turan which mijorty od turkish misunderstand it and thought its turkish term , indeed its cam from name of FAREYDUN sonTUR which mean darck
Well thought out, well presented, and excellent information. i didn't notice they (the Sumerians) were black. I, too had been taught the party line. Thank you for pointing out what seems now so obvious...
I appreciate too, your comment about whites needing to get over themselves...we really, really do. Nice work.
@ViruzNoob14 Black not at once became black. At least, if to speak about a present human civilization, meaning that this civilization on the Earth not the first, probably.
But in our civilization black steels black only because of surplus of ultra-violet beams.
In Africa and in Australia. And it is a little in Sri Lanka.
@MrCher I tried to find the comment I posted to see where you were coming from but couldn't find it. I therefore will just say that I happen to love anyone of any race, but I do have a serious problem with so many black "youths" in this country stalking Caucasians and beating them to death! I also have a serious problem with the mainstream media not only turning a blind eye to what's going on but actually acting as if it's Caucasians that are out doing all kinds of horrible crap to other races!
@MrCherubhair1 u pull that figure out of your azz it stinks like shit. the average asian brain is 1 cubic inch larger than the average white brain. the average white brain 5 cubic inches bigger than the average black brain but i would still merc ur skinny azz while ur girl suckin my dik
Let me get this straight. You are saying that the ancient Sumerians were Negroes based on carved reliefs. That is a stretch buddy. None of the features of these people resemble Africans at all. You say their hair does but very few Africans have long beards. They all look like orthodox Jewish people to me. The very same people who handed down the creation and flood stories we know today. Not to mention the actual physical figurines found have blue eyes. I believe your interpretation is biased .
. I'm the Tatar. For me the external shape of Sumerian reminds only Tatars. These anthropological materials, figurines and bas-reliefs at all don't remind Jews, who have appeared on historical arena only 4000 years ago.
Nevertheless, God specifically warns those who will try to add and subtract to his words that their rewards would be taking or their wrath would be added. Due to racism, some try to lie and twist things to fit their bias, but do not use the Bible or Torah as your source since they bear witness to that black man called Nimrod forming the Babylon civilization.
You can call this afro-centric, but this is what is written in the Bible and Torah. God made sure Cushite and Hamite was written because he knew there would be those who would want to distort his words. Despite that, this one idiot once claim that Nimrod was a Kushite which was different than Cushite and that he was of Semite. I said to myself, it is written clearly that he was Cushite from Hamite, but because this person was racist, he had to make up things that wasn't written there.
After the flood, Noah and his family moved into Iraq, but it was not where they were at before the flood because I'm sure the flood displaced them. The ark would have left their original place and brought them near Iraq, where they were able to repopulate and rebuilt. They were led by this black Cushite Hamite whom God called a mighty hunter. If you don't agree with this, then use another source because this is what the Torah and Bible states.
According to Bible and Torah, a black man called Nimrod, who came from the line Cush, who came from the line Ham, built Babylon aka Mesopotamia along with 6 other cities. No matter what others say, he was not a Semite, though he spoke a afro-asiatic language. Canaanites or Phonecians were of Hamite (black). Also, Babylon was created after the flood, there would have been other civilizations before the flood destroy them.
Egyptians are Egyptians, Sumerians are Sumerians not black,negro,colored. Our some other colonial brand, that was put on slaves in the America's. If your going to read ancient history, read it for what it is. Their is no black,negro,colored in ancient history, people of "hue" yes which means dark melanated not black. Their are billions of dark skinned people on this planet that does not mean their black. Even Africans don't use that term your Nigerian,Gambian,Sengaly etc, etc.
2 jelly beans sit on a plate, both different colors. One says to the other.. "I think i was made before you were" the other says.. " who gives a f**k, we're both about to be eaten".
Long live the INTERNET!!! I unsuccessfully searched for primary sources about Sumer in the USSR and in Russia during 23 y.3 year ago I have found these primary sources in the Internet. Long live the INTERNET!
Silly video! Sumerian came from Arabian peninsula the language&feature there writing proof that &they admitted themselves ,coz their were famous some Arians from quoqaz mountain came and settle with them they worship satin,the nopian kingdom in old egypt (eqyptos) were African ,grow up don't make people on the net lough about u dude!!
all sumerian images of their GODS are based on SACRED GEOMETRY which is the LANGUAGE of GOD there you can find all IMAGES of the GODS from ALL CIVILIZATIONS AROUND THE WORLD !!!!!
ha ha ha funny as hell what they just forgot how.....?..... lol
grilfers 2 weeks ago
Malcolm X was a racist. Poor ending to the video.
fifh89 3 weeks ago 2
@fifh89 malcolm x is talking about the anceint-egyptians....not these people....
kemetkush 2 weeks ago
2:37 - I'm actually quite interested in all this stuff but seriously, WATCHES? I stopped the video right there and moved on.
Daveyboyroy 3 weeks ago
Egyptians and Mesopotamians at that time where a very seperate and distinct racial group. I hate people who leach off of others work because there a similar skin colour.
MrCherubhair1 3 weeks ago
@MrCherubhair1 malcolm was talking about the anceint egyptians....not these people.
kemetkush 2 weeks ago
The people in Iraq known as the Marsh Arabs are believed to be the modern day descendants of the Sumerians and Babylonians. Look up some info on the Marsh Arabs.
CrowdPleeza 1 month ago in playlist Melanin " DR Francis Cress"
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"the first humans to develope sophisticated music" .. . yet many thousands of years later your race produces that rap and hip hop swill, .. while those inferior European cave dwellers who craweld on all fours and thought the earth was flat have produced Mozart and Bach !
spyroxxm 1 month ago
"the first humans to develope sophisticated music" .. . yet many thousands of years later your race produces that rap and hip hop swill, .. while those inferior European cave dwellers who craweld on all fours and thought the earth was flat have produced Mozart and Bach !
spyroxxm 1 month ago 8
Lol....where have their wonderful advancements gone? I am native American. Could I make irrational claims that because some of the eastern peoples looked like some of the native Americans, that they are all native Americans? No. Egyptians...all Mesopotamians...they were all a very different and distinct ethnic group. There are decorations on the walls of Egypt that show Egyptians standing next to nubians....and they are completely different. Hair types are not proof of racial heritage.
nicholirage 1 month ago
„to the ancient people dwelling along the southern and southwestern shores of the Caspian Sea, in the region which was called Caspiane after them.”
„During the later Achaemenid period, the Kassites, referred to as "Kossaei", lived in the mountains to the east of Media and were one of several "predatory" mountain tribes that regularly extracted "gifts" from the Achaemenid Persians, according to a citation of Nearchus by Strabo (13.3.6).”
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
I love how black people try so hard to prove that they have contributed to society yet come up with so little :)
TexasPanzer88 2 months ago
@TexasPanzer88
And you know they'll never stop trying and they'll never stop believing lies and half-truths such as this video. Pretty sad that they can't just accept their history of being tribal people with really not much intellect and move on from there.
BloodTar 2 months ago
@BloodTar Yeah, you could PROVE to them that they weren't the dominant race in Egypt etc and they would just say that *whitey* is just covering up the true evidence lol. You kinda gotta feel sorry for the poor little things =/
TexasPanzer88 2 months ago
"The term pre-Indo-European languages relates to several (not necessarily related) non-classified languages that existed in prehistoric Europe and South Asia before the arrival of bearers of Indo-European languages."
"Old Europe is a term coined by archaeologist Marija Gimbutas to describe what she perceives as a relatively homogeneous and widespread pre-Indo-European Neolithic culture in Europe,"
Old European cultures: the Pelasgians, Minoans, Leleges, Iberians, Etruscans and Basques etc...
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
after the sea people destruction the hitties were so weak that the empire collapsed and semitics-assyrians flooded it… after sea people destruction then came the semitics Neo-Hittite Syro-Hittite...
Don’t confuse Laitns and Etruscans(agglutinavie lang) are two different so whatever… the Etruscans had iron weapons also they fought a lot against the sea people and they could stop them unlike the Hitties...
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom The origins of the Etruscans are lost in prehistory.Historians have no literature,no texts of religion or philosophy;therefore much of what is known about this civilization is derived from grave goods &tomb findingsThe main hypotheses are that they are indigenous, probably stemming from the Villanovan culture or from the Near East.Etruscan expansion was focused both to the north beyond the Apennines &into Campania.Some small towns in the 6th century BC where relation you mention
goran21715 2 months ago
Death of a civilisation comes down to mainly arrogance hedonism in civilisation... when they think they know it all and have it all.. then they get taken over by people who outsmart them.
d3r2000 2 months ago
yeah ok thats why 6000 years later there was such advanced civilizations in africa please absurd
mullinaxbridgett43 2 months ago
At that time the aurea of the planet was not so contaminated by thoughts as it is nowdays, for the mental activity was inferior and the magnetism almost inexistent. The astral world, however, was and it still is populated by intelligences which compose the universe. The offspring of an irrational will be irrational; you humans are the children of these intelligences; and the moment you are all experiencing is wonderful, for you will remember that you don't belong in there, you are all from here.
jocastfi 3 months ago
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The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty,liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke,The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back, and a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Guti rule.Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians, Badawy notes,The Akkadian dynasty (2350-2150 BC)marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia,a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians (2000 BC)
goran21715 3 months ago
To me it is absolutely indifferent, what barbarians came to ask to Sumer of wisdom and knowledge. Exactly as to me all equally - there were there ancestors of Kurds or weren't, an essence of the matter not in it: the Problem that these barbarians didn't concern neither Sumer, nor to sumerian to language.
I ask moderators to remove off-top.
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@hunnoturk The Kingdom of the Lion in tell mazon near Amoda north syria The discoveries of 150 years of scientific archeology have made such peoples as the Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Akkadians and Hittites into familiar names. Caches of tablets up to 5000 years old found in ruins and in tells—the mounds that dot the Fertile Crescent, layered with the remains of successive settlements—have given an ever more complex and more complete picture of the history of early civilizations.
goran21715 2 months ago
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first mention of the Kurds in history was about 3,000 BC, under the name Gutium, as they fought the Summerians(Spieser)Later around 800 BC, the IndoEuropean Median tribes settled in the Zagros mountain region and coalesced with the Gutiums & thus the modern Kurds speak from as Aryan language (Morris). The Kurds are mentioned by Xenaphon, a Greek mercenary, as he retreated from Persia with ten thousand men in 401 BChe says of the Kurds, "These people, lived in the mountains and were very war-like
goran21715 3 months ago
3:28 is a relief from Persepolis showing Babylonians carrying gifts to the King of Persia, not Sumerian either.
samioa 3 months ago
1:32 is the Parthian battery, not Sumerian.
samioa 3 months ago
@samioa We investigated Parthian language. This language substantially Turkic language. Understand me correctly: In all ancient people Sumerian-Turkis were operating caste.
In ancient China, in Ancient Egypt, in Eurasia, in ancient India, in all Central Asian and Mesopotamic peoples= rooling a caste from Sumerian-Turkis.
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@hunnoturk
Bullshit, The Parthians spoke a Northern Iranian language which means ''Heroic and Middle Persian ''Pahlavi'' even today very few people in southern Iran still speak Middle Persian. Sumerians, Parthians, Scythians it has nothing to do with turks, i'm sick of those propaganda spreading idiots like you, I can tell you right now, you dont know a damn about Parthian language, infact I speak Pahlavi I know it and I can tell how little different it is from modern Persian.
samioa 3 months ago
@samioa At you will be opening wonderful ahead much. It is necessary to you to familiarize with the PRESENT history of a civilization on the Earth.
All yours squeals, snivels and cries are inappropriate on this site. Be engaged in searches of the present history, and you necessarily will find out that all nations of the world had an operating caste from Sumerian-Turkis.
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@samioa ''Pahlavi'' the latest has no unequivocal perusal. Any linguist can't read texts of this language confidently enough. And nevertheless: Why it you consider that Persians, Kurds, Parthian, and the other barbarians who had the operating caste from Turkis-sumerian though in what have succeeded independently? Read primary sources. And probably become hardly more cleverly.
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@hunnoturk
Ohhh? Now we are Barbarians? At least we weren't rapists and murderers as you Turks were, What are your proofs that the Sumerians were Turkic? I don't need any proofs about the Parthians because I am already 100% sure that they were Iranian and that anything you say is bullshit.
samioa 3 months ago
@samioa Check up your blood, most likely you dravidian, instead of the Aryan. To be the Aryan it is necessary to have Turkic northern gaplogroup R1a, or south=Мesopotamien Turkic gaplogroup R1b.
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@hunnoturk
Aryan has nothing to do with DNA, the first time Aryan was mentioned is in the Sanskrit documents and they mentioned nothing about DNA or looks, there you have your answer, they didn't know about DNA that time. The second time was by Darius in his inscriptions ''I am an Aryan king'' he didn't mention anything about looks or DNA either so what the hell is it that you're talking about? Please don't mention this Hitler propaganda.
samioa 3 months ago
@hunnoturk
About Iran, once again DNA has nothing to do with being Aryan, it was refereed to Noble people in the Ancient times which were the Iranian people. However southern Iranians have about 10% R1a DNA and 23% R1b DNA, while Northern Iranians (Gilaki& Mazandaranis) have 30% R1a DNA and more than 25% R1b. Don't bullshit me.
samioa 3 months ago
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hunnoturk 3 months ago
@samioa Yes you simply cave person with a primitive educational level.Оооооо, мамма mia!!!
And I have spent FOR NOTHING the precious time for dialogue with a pettiness.(((((((((
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@hunnoturk
Just admit that you ran out of words and backed out, you knew that everything I was saying is true that's why you responded me with that.
samioa 3 months ago
@hunnoturk Subartu (zibary)Assyria is roughlydefined as an entity since around2000 BC lasting until 609 BC but the periods defining Assyria's fame are relatively short,during the Middle period,ca.300-1197,ca100 years&ca1115-1076 ca40 years,&during the Neo period ca.884-824,ca.60 years&ca.745-631,ca.130 years
The most ancient name used for the region was Subartu (in Akkadian),or Shubir in Sumerian.Zibary kurdish tribes descending from him The first occurrence of Assyriacame in the14th century
goran21715 3 months ago
@hunnoturkKassites( Kaspi ) were an ancient people known primarily for establishing the second, or middle, Babylonian dynasty;they were believed to have originated in the Zagros Mountains but secured holdings within the Tigris-Euphrates valley on the northern frontiers of Babylonia &later established the second Babylonian dynasty.although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years,it is probable that the first Kassite kings reigned in Babylonia,bedouin dont fake history
goran21715 3 months ago
@hunnoturk real you foolish where turk mongols aryan and y hypologroup R1a1, you mongols and if you talk anout tatar they different to turk and mongols , you dont know what you are , same time saying l am descending from mesopotamia now you claim aryan ,you are any thing except aryan , back to your real anestor mongols and north great wall ,you haven't thing in mesopotamia and aryan, how interpidly to claim aryan . why you shame to say i am turk descending from mongols to rest yourself
goran21715 3 months ago
@samioa it is fast to you infinitely it is necessary to sigh: Ohhhh!
It is not necessary to go in cycles on 2nd and 1st millenium BC
Progress, sciences, art and technologies don't appear anywhere - them someone brings to the people. As it was made by Sumerian-Turkis.
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@hunnoturk
Oh and for your information, R1a is not even close to Turkic, Most european countries have 60%+ R1a DNA, and Turkey has about 10% or less. However in Northern Turkey which there lives caucasian people the rate is higher, and we got the Kurds of course. Oh and also, Turks were originally Central asian looking until they came to Anatolia and mixed with the Native anatolians who were an indo european people, and later the Albanians, Greeks and Slavic people, so stop barking about DNA,
samioa 3 months ago
@hunnoturk
And stop saying Sumerian-Turk, you're embarrassing yourself.
samioa 3 months ago
@hunnoturk
Even the so called ''Huns'' It's not even sure that they're Turkic, it hasn't been proved. And you make no sence, the Sumerians, along with the Elamites and Dravidians were the Native people on the Middle East before the Aryans and the Semetic people arrived, now why the hell would you randomly aspect that they were a Turkic tribe, Turkic people who originated from Central Asia why just why?
samioa 3 months ago
@samioa Now in Tatarstan carry out the grandiose action on a blood test of medieval burial places of Mongols = (MEN-GOLs = "I'm Slave Supreme", on-Tatar).
90 % of burial places of Mongols have Mediterranean European gaplogroup.
Here is such "pies",the m-rs barbarians.)))))
hunnoturk 1 сек. назад
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@samioa The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as urkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns.Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia,central asisa was iranian peoples befor turk invader
goran21715 3 months ago
@goran21715
yes
samioa 3 months ago
@goran21715
is kurdish an agglutinative language? Why are you still trying to find a link between sumerians and kurds.Kurdish is an indo-eu language not agglutinative.Sumerians&Turks have more common in language grammatically.They've hundreds of words in common too.Turks migrated to asia from west,they used to live in anatolia and europe b4 asia.Dont try to create a fake history for yourself, be yourself and proud of that,stealing is not good Goran.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 oh you misunderstand sumerian history, biside sumerian there were Zagros peoples(Hurriann
,Subartu,Lullbi Gutian,Kassite or Ka-spe, any one of there indo-aryan had important roll in sumerian &mesopotamia if you study history of mesopotamia you seen they rulled mesopotamia except akkadian 150 yeas &dansty of hammorabi 150 years,finaly the assyrian about 300 years while the Gutian ruled 200 yeas &kassite rulled 576 years and MEDES nd persian empire mic era 7th century or 1200 years
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
Today's kurdish lanuage is an indo-eu language not agglutinative.You say you are aryan and speak indo-eu language but you insist to find a link between sumerians although it is very clear that sumerians were not indo-eu people,and their language was agglutinative.I dont mean today's kurds are related to turks of course because you were assimilated and genetically you have %13 semitic dna.I understand you wanna be aryan or european but isnt it emberassing?
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 lol l said purly aryan bcouse befoe 4000years ago we keep same language and kurdish is one of lranian language and a group of indo-lranian language,lol persian now depending on kurdish grammer.the you dont now real meaning of aryan,it mean worrior in time of GUTI (Kurdi) & lran mmeaning land of aryan. you dont havent any knowledge of kurdish socity we dont mairry arab or marrage to arab,then Y-hapologroup transfer from father to child,from where your tatio & how say kurd assimliated?
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
you said kurdish is agglutinative right? it was you who said that.And you also say that kurdish is an indo-eu language. The sumerian language was agglutinative not like kurdish.The sumerian language was assimilated by persians.There is no pure race in middle east.There are millions of kurds in turkey,i dont see anything common in appearece between kurds and europeans.It shows you mixed.If you say you never mixed it shows kurds are extremely racist.R U proud of that?
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 lol sumerian civilation not mean nation may peoples to participate in sumer civilation like GUTI AND SEMIRE AKKADIAN AND ELAMITE AND KASSITE AND HITTIT AND MITANNI AND OMURITEA l said you dont have knowledge in sumerian history many word od sumerian is guti and kassite couse the rulled long time, lol sumerian extint language, lol in that time persian dont appear on stage mesopotamia they appear after they coup on the Medes empire, you know kurdish&persian have 95% common words
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
Listen the city i live is a galatian(celtic) city in anatolia,does it make me german or english?I know i have turkic and native anatolian ancestors, when i look at mirror and my family i see german looking people not asian,but i never wanna be a european or try to be like them. Why are you trying to insult people and to be superior others?Just look at the history,what did kurds do?They lived in mesapotamia for thousands of years but i cannot see a pyramid,a famous philosoph..etc.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 oh you understand me wrong l dont want to insuilt any nation l decend mongols in mongolia so on , and when l say kurd are aryan race &language not mean the kurd is superior over other natian only to proven our natin as turk goverment arab deny our nation& they try to assimialting kurdish as turk goverment try for last 80 years,we have our nation with propd deepth history &language abale to assimialite science word now & in future . if you Ciltic that mean your ancestor are Hurrian
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
listen my friend,turks and kurds lived in these lands togather in a perfect brotherhood and they mixed with eachother.I have many kurds in my family,in every family there are kurds and turks here.You can blame government for the last 80 years,but there are kurds and turks in our government too,you cant blame turkish people here.Look at Van earthquake,thousands of turks are trying to help their kurdish brothers,they dont care any race crab.Please stop talking that race crab,please
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 lol l to continue to disaster and your goverment refused forign aid in first 3 day and after pression they late the forign aid , if they late may they save many peoples for died ,real the turkish peoples was so happey , in internet l watch many youtube abnd him comment how they happey for that natuer disaster.l said there were no nation racial like turkish , that lead turkey to destroyed him elf at fanaly . any one marry turk we dont account him kurdish this is fact kurd is kurd
goran21715 2 months ago
I dont care if kurds have a history or not,they are our brothers thats it. I dont care who my ancestors were,maybe i am celtic but i prefer to call myself Turk.Even if i have 1% turkic dna or not icall myself Turk.This is the identity i've chosen for myself,being Turk is getting us united.Turkish ideology is not racist,it makes people united.A kurd can be turk but a turk cannot be kurd.Because your ideology is racist and feodal.This is the reason i dont like all mid-east ideology.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 by same way we kudish if we have only 0,01 kurdish DNA,you proud in you mongols race in same way we proiud to our aryan race.you turk & mongols race that the hisory said turkic invasion anatolia in 1071 AD , no evry one of turkish commenity responsible of him goverment.couse you claim you are demoratic country &you selection the goverment &they lie never known meaning of democracy,they contenous of all goverment rulled turkey only they play in emotion of simple in lslamic ideology
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
we r proud of being turks because it is the identity everyone can choose,a kurd can be a turk but a turk cannot be a kurd.If you search the islamic ideology in turkey you will see the most religious fanatic muslims and the leaders are kurdish like said-i nursi or the leader of nakhshibendis.The arabesk culture and arabic elements were conveyed to turkey by kurdish people you can see that clearly in music,art..etc if you search.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 l am more proud for l am Kurd becouase my blood is kurdish and my lineage is kurd , lol its not choce l born l am kurdish never kurd changto turk and reverse to vererse, religion defferent to nationalizm you drive out his family out turkey and Neuresy die homless & buril him in unkown place &any one know where him grav no mind me if any one choce to be mongols we kurd have our lineage and we proud with our culltuer and language, nnever highborn change learn never high bourn change
goran21715 2 months ago
if kurdish ideology would be that simly and uniting,believe me i would be proud of saying 'i am a kurd' too,but there is nothing like' if we have only 0,01 kurdish dna i am proud of that' thing in your culture.If you would be so you would call us brothers not enemies.Turks think that kurds are their brothers but kurds dont think that way because you are racist.The main problem is that difference between our ideology.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 turk occupie kurdish land and evry day we pouring blood and youngth kurdish arrested& ito imprison there were thousands kurdish in prsion,you talk about palasitinian&persecute kurdish every hour,you thought peoples dont know how are fascist .turk never thinking to be brother & not will be,couse brother dont forbed him brouther to talking his mother language,look IN HISTORY THE AKKADIAN persecute then the Gutian overthrow him forever,assyrian do same thing the MEDES fall him forever
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
turks are attacking to iraq for a reason,PKK.You are helping pkk to kill innocent people.They are killing civil innocent people and you are supporting. There are thousands of pkk terrorist hiding in north iraq,and you,US and israel are supporting them,they give weapons to them,they are conveying heroin to europe also.They killed 40000people,it is you who only thinks yourselves.For 30 years you ve been helping them,you dont have right to complain about that.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 this talk are duty of your goverment ,late your TV and radio advertisement proupagenda its not you job,PKK are fighter for freedom they kill soldier,they dont killing any innocent peoples ,that proupagenda of your goverment,they defeat from solive probem ,its our duty to support them for freedom , why urdoghan support Gaza?your goverment are big tierrorist in region . lol you part of NATO& you are severnt of lsrael and USA. HOW how many they kill its not matter more than will kill
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
a propaganda?,Goran it was in ankara recently a pkk explotion took place,3 people died and 34 injured,in a civil place civil people died.They also killed a pregnant woman an a 5 years old child too.These are very new events search it.Thousand of people withnessed that, was it a hallusination? as long as you believe that way you dont have right to complain about,all terrorists and and their supporters deserve that.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 ofcourse happen badness in featuer couse the turkish deny kurdisg right and turkey have many enemies,and they exploit wherther of circumstances, how say they do it not ALqaaida, kurd struggle to get him right look iraq deny our right and howmany killed & used all wepons wven chimical wepons what was resuilt ,now kurd is balanc of lraq,if there weren't kurd the shiaha and suba well killing evry day.how much they late to solive the proble they win more,its issues of nation we will win
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
if you believe in democracy,why more than 90%of kurdish poppulation voted against pkk and kurdistan in the last selection ,why do they voted to live with turks if we are so bad as you mentioned? this is very confusing.Why is half of our parliament is kurdish originated even the presidents.U cannot seperate a race and give the responsibility to another race.We are not living that way Goran.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 simply couse they are not free for real what they want, you never understand what meaning democracy, how you believe lsamic party believe to democracy ,lslam itself non democracy, urdoghan is streach of ataturk. the the money &self behalf and authoutywill play in the election,what is worth ofperliment in facist system, they know cant able to do any thing without change the constitution,you constitution that ataturk putted in 1924, you are so nerrow thought & dont know democracy play
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
ooh you know democracy very good now right? US killed thousand of iraq people to bring you democracy.At least we find democracy by ourselves,if you wanna hate someone hate the US who killed your people and use you as a puppet,When you say 'you' do you mean only Turks?lol,99% of kurds voted erdogan,let me inform you that they are still being ruled by landlords,i guess i dont need an advice from you especially about democracy:))
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 yes USA shorted they way to democracy , he fall Saddam in 17 day , if they dont do that we must pay evry day 100 sacrifice as syrian do nowaday and whole world watching, how say there democracy in turkey , they dont kill any one without reason why they dont kill any kurdish,yes l mean turk becouse we talk about turkey you wanrt to talk about Japan,if 99% voted to urdughan it mean whole turkey are kurdiash lol we know how thety play in election all lie without change the constitution
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 you again understanding wrong couse the european imigratiom from region to europe they can saying they descending from GUTIAN orCILTIC not inverse anatolian peoples befor ciltic&greeks was HURRIAN in anatolia in 3rd millenium &befor that& they proend-aryan or original og indo-european that discovered in in last few yeas ago,these Hurrian play importent roll in mesopotamia &syria &anatolia in religion &cultuer,what turk do tell me one city established by turk but thet destroyed cities
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 not proveso that blue and green and gray eyes war aryan.couse when we read (ancient aryan history ) we see charecter have brown eyes , l can send you email of that if you like to read all SAGA of Zoroaster , from that saga you can imagenation all kurdish wear and music and dancing caming from saga and hairtage from that time of aryan . for that l can say only kurdish preserving aryan tradation of evry delicate detailing of aryan convention, even persian can't dancing as kurd dance
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
people who live in the same place for thousands of years cannot improve anything easily unless they migrate from somewhere or mix with other people.People who migrate convey different cultures place to place.Mixing with people and different cultures make a culture more weathy.This is the reason i cannot understand why you are so proud of not having mixed and migrated.That only makes people narrow-minded and racist.I believe in you about aryans but i dont like to talk about race
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea and miditerrannean sea ,it also came into contact with sino-ttibtan in today india,and came into contact with the Altaic (Turkic,mongol) and china,
The semitic peoples moved from the area of the eastern red sea taking thousands along the line from the red sea to the mediterranean sea this was aryanland ,that mean we was indigenous peioples
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 The Kurds are an ethnic group who have historically inhabited the mountainous areas to the south of Caucasus (Zagros and Taurus mountain ranges), a geographical area collectively referred to as Kurdistan. Most Kurds speak an Indo-European language belonging to the Iranian branch.
There are various hypotheses as to predecessor populations of the Kurds, such as the Carduchoi (khurrti) of Classical Antiquity.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
The Hurrians spoke an ergative-agglutinative language, conventionally called Hurrian, unrelated to Semitic or Indo-European languages.
The Iron Age Urartian language is closely related to or a direct descendant of Hurrian.
All known Mesopotamian languages (excluded the later Semitic languages) were agglutinative.
Agglutinative= Sumerian Elamite Hurrian Urartian Hattic Kassite Gutian Subarian Etruscan….
they were eventually pushed out/assimilated by semitics....
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom The Mitanni were an Indo-European (Hurrian) people whose kingdom in northern Mesopotamia flourished from about 1600 (Second Intermediate Period) until it was conquered by the Hittite King Suppiluliumas during the reign of Akhenaten. At its peak, the empire stretched from Kirkuk (ancient Arrapkha) and the Zagros mountains in western Iran in the east, through Assyria to the Mediterranean sea in the west. Its center was in the region of the Khabur River,
goran21715 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom The descendants of the historic Subareans are stated by Prof. Izady to be found amongst the Zubari Kurds, who still inhabit the same geographical region as the ancient Subareans:The kingdom of Mushku is now believed to have brought about the final downfall of the Hittites in Anatolia.Their name survives in the city of Mush/Mus in north-central Kurdistan The Subaru who operated from the areas north of modern Arbil historic Kurdish tribal confederacy of Zubari,
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
Mintanni was Hurrian-speaking state
„the east they had good relations with the Kassites.”
so all agglutinatvie not Indo european.
„The kingdom of Mushku” who?
Eventually the Hittie empire collapsed when the indo european sea people sacked/destroyed Hattustat. many from Hattustat actually fled to the Etrusc-Rasna empire...
so I don't think Hittie was indo eruoepan etiher but accroing to m.s. it was..
"The Hittite language Anatolian branch of the Indo-European language family.”
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom yes mitanni was part of Hurrian soeaking state they have same with all Zagros peoples ,Ka-spi (Kassite), Guti . Subartu, and Lullubi. they all indo-european language but pro aryan ,l have evidance they speak even kurdish language and lzdy is best evidance of mitanni in religiol of mithra and symbol peacock .
the kingdom of mushku was Subartu kingdom ,the mushku/mush (mus) city in turkey (موش)
they hittite collapsed as reason of was of migration of wave of aryan Mannianian &Meds
goran21715 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom The relationship between Hurrian and Subarean has already been mentioned, and the language of the Urartians, who played an important role from the end of the 2nd millennium to the 8th century BC, is likewise closely related to Hurrian. According to the Soviet scholars Igor M. Diakonov and Sergei A. Starostin,the Eastern Caucasian languages are an offshoot of the Hurrian-Urartian group.the Hurrian was pro-aryan languagr,the Hurrian was established of Arbil &Arrapha & Nuzi&Uriksh
goran21715 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom The Hurrians enter the orbit of ancient Middle Eastern civilization toward the end of the 3rd millennium BC.They arrived in Mesopotamia from the north or the east,but it is not known how long they had lived in the peripheral regions.There is a brief inscription in Hurrian language from the end of the period of Akkad, while that of King Arishen of Urkish Nawar .The language of the Hurrians must have belonged to a widespread group of ancient Middle Eastern languages.
goran21715 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom It is a part of Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990, Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
No again the „mysteries” sea people sacked/destroyed Hattusat this is recorded fact so you can't argue this…
Some from Hattusat ended up in the Etruscan empire their iron making technic etc many proofs on this too…
Kaspi-Caspians or Kassites had nothing to do with Indo eruopeans..
You tryin to force the indo-kurds in somehow lol..
I agree with the last one..
The original ancient Kurds are probably aboriginal Zagros tribe means not indo eruopeans so end of story ..
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom nice if that right where your source,read sea peoples history where they mention& date of they sacked / destroyed it,Hattusat destroyed by ASSyrian,then Khaldi rising&absorb the hittite&mitanni whom they descovered the iron which latin drived from him name,read more about Etruscan then talk.all Zagros peoples have relation with other,HURRIAN -SUBARTU MITANNI KHALDI& LULLUBI &GUTI,KA-SPI (KASSITE)&THEY ARE PRO- ARYAN,LOL THERE WERE CLAY TABLIT IN KURDISH LANGUAGE AS KURD USE NOWADAY
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
You either aboriginal Zagros tribe or Aryan you can’t be both lol get it.
I don1t know it could be that the kurd lanaguge stucture changed to indo eruopean some point in history but the ancient Kurds were agglutinaive speakers same as Hurrians,Sumerians...
wiki:
„Civil war and rivalling claims to the throne, combined with the external threat of the Sea Peoples weakened the Hittites and by 1160 BC, the Empire had collapsed.”
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom 1 part(The majority of Europe speaks an Indo-European language that appears to have its roots in a Proto-Language that is believed to have originated between the Caucasus Mountains and ancient Mesopotamia. Caucasian "race of people" is an invention in 1795 by Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, a German, who based his conclusion on the beauty of a Georgian female skull found near Mount Caucasus. These people believe the Caucasian people began to fracture about 5,000 B.C.
goran21715 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom they exposure to invader assyrian and that was end of bronz age and starting the iron age , the Khaldi thier was mitanni tribes and ruled region and whom they descover the iron ,and mannian in west of them final the Medes rise in north and northern west capable to alliance all tribes of Zagros-turos and establish medes kingdom and take akbadana (hanadan ) then destroyed assyrian empire and estabilshed medes empire which was streached from halas river to afghanistan
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
Yes but all unknow not just Etruscans but all the Kassites documents also completely missing and many others so ancient history is unknown becasue „someone” destroyed it all…
Today Iraq and Afghanistan both important archological sites but U.S. soldiers are destroying/stealing all the artifacts they find so it’s still on going…
I think Iron was already used earlier than 1200B.C.....
„ a dagger with an iron blade found in a Hattic tomb in Anatolia, dating from 2500 BC.”
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom The Kassites(Ka-spi) were an ancient people known primarily for establishing the second, or middle, Babylonian dynasty; they were believed (perhaps wrongly) to have originated in the Zagros Mountains of Iran. First mentioned in Elamite texts of the late 3rd millennium BC, they penetrated into Mesopotamia in the 2nd millennium, Chronicles and king lists are imprecise, and although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years,
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
both Kassites and Hyksos probably all came from Asia steppe cultures (like Sctyhian,Hun.. ) they came with lots of horses and chariots so preety obvious….
Kassites:
”they were unrelated to the later Indo-European/Iranic Medes and Persians who came to dominate the region a thousand years later.”
Kaspi=Caspi(ans) so not Kassites..
„The word Caspian is derived from the name of the Caspi an ancient people that lived to the south west of the sea in Transcaucasia”
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990, Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani. Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arrapha."
goran21715 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom This would have been everything, but the Kassites (Ka-spi),which seem to have been semi-autonomous in the Achaemenid Empire,unexpectedly return in our sources in the first weeks of the year 323, when the Macedonian king Alexander sets out from Ecbatana to Babylon, and on his way encounters, defeats, and destroys the Cossaeans. The campaign was extremely bloody, and Alexander's contemporaries thought that their king was venting his emotions because his lover Hephaestion had died.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
„The Caspians have generally been regarded as a pre-Indo-European people….
„The latest evidence of Kassite culture is a reference by the 2nd century geographer Ptolemy,
who described "Kossaei" as living in the Susa region, adjacent to the "Elymeans"”
So a few Kassites were still around during Parthian times …btw The uruk kingdom was also still standing during Parthia and the sumerian language was still used by some priests after it totaly disappeared …
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom The Kassites also maintained the Indo-Iranian Aryan tradition of being traders in lapis lazuli and gold (see Aryan Trade). The only known ancient source of lapis lazuli was Badakshan in present day Afghanistan and in the heart of ancient Aryan lands. The Zagros mountains had ore deposits of iron and copper which the Kassites extracted and used to manufacture vehicles such as chariots and carts. Along with horses, they exported the chariots in exchange for other raw materials.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
that caucasian-white theory is probably totally outdated …
origin of the white people I don't know...
not sure if all white people have same origin but white people lived in europe long before 5000B.C. for sure..
Many theories on indo eruopean origin
Wiki: The Proto-Indo-European Urheimat hypotheses
Armenian hypothes, Kurgan etc..
„The only thing known for certain is that the language must have been differentiated into unconnected daughter dialects by the late 3rd millennium BC”
JohnGoldboom 2 months ago
@JohnGoldboom According to linguistics & internal evidence of the Avesta, the Irano-Aryan language family originated high in the splendid Hind Kush mountains of Afghanistan. Historical data indicates that one of these Proto-Iranic-speaking tribes was denominated 'Gut' or 'Got'. This ancient Iranic root denominated "warrior as the erudite Waddell notes, "the affixed title of Gut or "Goth" or 'Warrior'" (Waddell 1929) One branch of this legendary Gut or warrior tribe migrated to India
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
you are always trying to convince people as if you are the big-brother of europeans to be respected and supported by them.Do you really need that? you are collecting some information and manupulating historical facts.Kurds are kurds,what if you dont have a history,doest it so bad? you are not inferior or superior,just as normal as others.Is it so hard to be just a human being,aryan race crab is sth was developed by hitler,is it your path?
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 yes Kurd are Kurd we dont like to be european as you understanded,they imigration from Zagros - turos mountian to europe for example german and france and sweeden descendeding from Gutian here was in zagros befor they migrated to europe and Clte descending from HURIAN whom they was cenreted on KHabur river and russian was descending from Subartu whom they was inorth Arbil,whome all these ancient kingdom was part of orignal LEGEDER hurrian which proven they esist perhistoric 1995
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 Who were the Hurrians? We know that they lived during the third millenium,at the same time as the Sumerians in the south and the Semitic Eblaites to the northwest,explains Buccellati. Linguists believe there are connections between the ancient Hurrian language contemporary Georgian. It is possible that the Hurrians emerged from the Caucasus region and crossed into the Anatolian plateau, a region Kelly-Buccellati calls "the outer Fertile Crescent."from medetrrenian sea to capcsian sea
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 kurdish an agglutinative language cousre kurd exsist in mesopotamiaeven befor sumerian there were many word still kurd ues it or comperhednding it like (KUR) its important sumerian word ,in kurdish have same meaning in past & now it mean grave or deep,or land or montian even it mean son.you have right couse you dont have any knowledge about kurdish language andmain kurdish dialect,you can't compar with turkish language wgich have more half of region word like kurdish ,arabic &persian
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
I believe kurds're also proto turkic people they're also a part of turan,they are our brothers,but the kurdish today's not related to turks or sumerians.It's more close to persian language because they lost their roots and assimilated by persians.I know kurdish a little,maybe the old kurdish was agglutinative but not this one.The closest language to sumerian is turkic language today,there are many sumerian words in kurdish too because they also have turkic and sumerian ancestors
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 lol lurdish is purely aryan in race & language you dont understand kurdish to send you rare clay tablet inscription in15 th BC century there were figuer from 1 to 9 its just we use nowaday,l searcched all indo-europian language except india &afgan and tajek and iran there wasn't othere use these noun for that l can say the kurdish is purest aryan language couse it found in kurdistan,kurd hadn't any relation to turk not in language &race,turk belong to mongols race & to altic language
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
Goran we are living in 2011,please stop that race crab.Only the primitive people are talking about that now.Look all world suffered because of race crab.People are trying to improve multiculturalism,but you are still talking about race.I dont hate kurdish people but i really do hate these kurdish ideology.You can be proud of livin in the same land for 10000years,without going anywhere,without mixing anyone,but you also dont have anything like pyramids,monuments..etc.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 tell you goverment to klate kurdish learn in him mother llanguage and they singing him soung and to free estabish him party and they live free without fear for distinction l can tell you there were no nation racial than turkish , you forgget you forbeden kurdish languageand cultuer for 80 years
you speak of muliticularizm and forbeden kurdish language inner turkey , how you thought, you know this language us you claim turkish is fomed political after ottmani defeat in ww1by ataturk
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
seems like you have never been to turkey thats why you know everything wrong.No turkish people are happy because of that,they are sending aid in the fastest way.Many people you see dont like kurds have some reasons for that,in the marmara earthquake we lost about 100.000people and the kurdish people were trying to steal the stuff of the death bodies,it is not something which can be forgotten easily and the pkk is killing innocent people.Anyway this is another subject.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 l am so sure in my knowledge , l think you never watching to mirror to see yourself in real, you see other but dont see yourself, they happy l saw TV and swa mola was praying fro more and watched many youtube updated by turkish dont lie you can watch youtubes and read commentsm . lol you steal anatolia more 500 years and you indictment as your goverment do also , how you know that thiefs was kurdish in big city. you mean turk all angel and turkey emputy of thief, shame you speak this
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
:) goran,according to the genetical studies anatolian turks are 95%native anatolian people like hittits and lydians..etc.Do you see any asian looking face in turkey?:))this is something very clear but you dont wanna see the fact.Even kurds themselves say that there is only 2 million real turks in turkey.Tell me what is 95% then?who is invader?who invaded your lands?how many turks are living in kurdish cities?The most valuable properties were given to kurds by Ataturk,do u know that?
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 but hittite our ancestor they was tribes of Hurrian Who were the Hurrians? We know that they lived during the third millenium,at the same time as the Sumerians in the south &the Semitic Eblaites to the northwest, explains Buccellati.Linguists believe there are connections between the ancient Hurrian language contemporary Georgian.It is possible that the Hurrians emerged from the Caucasus region crossed into the Anatolian plateau,in 1995 excavation him capial in tell mazon near Amuda
goran21715 2 months ago
Being mongolians is not somethhing insulting,Japans also have mongolian ancestors,do you think they are inferior?I dont think so:)I told you I have celtic and greek ancestors,all anatolian turks have native ancestors more than90%,we are living in our homeland,it is kurds who are living in our cities.Turkish identitiy is something to get people united,kurds lost that chance and dint understand us.We would be anatolian nationalist not Turkish,it would be worse for them
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 l mean mongols to appear you are invasion anatolia and fall the ayyubite state in syria and anatoia those mongols savage only they destroed cities you can see all ruic in anatoia is remain of him barbarian and savage , japan is not mongols couse they tried to occcupied japan too they fall ,l know only 4% of turkey pupolation are mongols DNA but you claim you are turl mongols , kurd live in his land you caming from mongolia and north china go read turkic imigration wikipedia ,
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
of course japans are also mongolian originated,mongolians killed many turks too,they invaded turkish lands but you accept that turks are mongolian originated but not japanese:))Anyway Japanese know their origin well,you believe whatever u wanna believe.And you're missing sth,you call us 'turks' but you also accept that we are just 4% turk.You cant accept the fact,the native analotians,hittites,galatians,troyans are also anatolian turks not kurds.It is science,dna says that not me.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 URAL-ALTAIC LANGUAGES
The next largest linguistic group is the Ural-Altaic speaking people that include:
FINNO-UGRIAN: includes the Finnish (Suomi), Estonian, Livonian, Lappish, Karelian, Cheremission, Votiak, Mordvinian, and Magyar,
TURKISH-TATARIC: includes Turkish (Osmanli), Kirghizic, Bashkirian, Tataric, Kumykian, Chuvashian, Karachaic, Nogaic, , Kizilbashian and Tahtatajic,
MONGOLIAN: Kalmuckian. this is dont including either japanese they easterian hamalaya peoples
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
Goran dont tell that to a Japanese person, pls dont embarass youself,believe me Japanese are as intelligent as you are :)they know their origin more than you do.They already accept that and even love Genghis Khan too much.There is a movie 'Blue Wolf' it is a japanese-mongolian production,watch it.They dont think Mongolians are savage people.They know who they are because they were not brainwashed people by US,they are powerfull and honourfull people.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 l am not embarrass my self,the japanese intellegen peoples.waw they free how they thought and if they love or not,but they haven't relation to gendiz khan then what relation japanese to you &mongols they dont belong to same group to mongols, es couse they dont saw monols invasion him country,for him luck all ship sunk befor they reach to japanese earth.all hstorian was account the mongols was savage abd barbarian especialy lslamic historian,may turkish history mention him honorfull
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGES
The Indo-European family of languages began fracturing into nine major groups about 5,000-4,000 B.C. as follows:
CELTIC: Include Irish, Briton, Gaelic, and Welsh (Cymric),
GERMANIC: includes German, Anglo, Saxon, Dutch, Yiddish, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic, Faeroese, Frisian, and Flemish,
HELLENIC: Greek,
IRANIAN: Iran, Ossetic, Kurdic and Yezidic,
LATIN: Include French, Rhaeto-Romanic, , Sardinian, Spanish, Catalan, Portuguese, Italian
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 (2)INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGES
The Indo-European family of languages began fracturing into nine major groups about 5,000-4,000 B.C. as follows:
ALBANIAN: Thrice-Illyrian,
ARMENIAN: Greek,
BALTO-SLAVIC: includes Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, Serbo-Croatian, Slovenian, Czech, Slovakian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Sorbian (Wendic) and Lithuanian,
CELTIC: Include Irish, Briton, Gaelic, and Welsh (Cymric),
GERMANIC: includes German, Anglo, Saxon, Dutch, Yiddish, Swedish
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 The Hurrians also Khurrites were a people of the Ancient Near East,who lived in northern Mesopotamia &areas to the immediate east & west, beginning approximately 2500 BC.They probably originated in the Caucasus & entered from the north, but this is not certain.Their known homeland was centred in Subartu, the Khabur River valley,&later they established themselves as rulers of small kingdoms throughout northern Mesopotamia &Syria.The largest &Hurrian nation was the kingdom of Mitanni.
goran21715 2 months ago
What i am saying is truth which was seen by thousands of people but tv channels didnt show that not to insult kurds.A kurd is as free as a turk in turkey,even they many advantages compared to us.You are racist very very racist, but if turkish people began to be anatolian nationalist and sweep all turkish identity, they have all rights not to want to live with kurds.Because we didnt steal anywhere,we have been living in these lands for thousands of years.This is what genetic says.I can proove it.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@goran21715
kurdish ideology only represents racism,close-mindness and feodalism now.You are right here in turkey kurds never mix with others they are killing their own daughter or siter just because she loves someone from another kurdish tribe.If the husband of a woman dies they force her to get merried her husbands brother.It is called 'berdel'.Is it something to be proud of?Is being mixed that bad?All people,europeans,asians,africans,americans mixed.It is very normal.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 its kurdish socity , you can't change it sadently it need many genrelation any commentee have gioog tradtion and bad its subject havent any relation to our argument of history , that is goood to preseves kurdish community , you dont seen other commenity how women lose in commenity l think kurdish women like queen on throne , l saw woman russian and central asia woman how they lose in turkey and contry wideworld , you can ask kurdish women live bester of all women in othere commenity
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
we dont want to change anyone but kurds want to live with us,in our cities there are millions of them,and they are not willing to go to kurdistan region or iraq, some of them are escaping from kurdish cities because of honour killings,the position of women in kurdish society is not that good as you mentioned,we dont want a kurdish culture because it is very racist and feodalist.many regions there are still being ruling by landlords.About genetics we are also anatolians.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 you caming from mongols and occuped kurdish land and you say kurd like to live with his occupation of course they dont retun to kurdistan becouse you burn 5000 thousand village & burn him feild & house and evry thing , and all manifatuer in west and there were any worl &biussines in east,we dont want you take any kurdish culture and late it for him we need our cultuer and tought in mother language as ue do,dont talk about kurdish tradation & custome ouse you are not curator over him
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
Goran search the statistics please,kurdish people are forcing 13 years of girls to get married, they dont let her to marry another person from another kurdish tribe, they dont let them to go to the school.If you ask a kurdish father how many children does he have, he only counts the sons of him.They dont count women as a human being. Who do you think you are telling these things,there are 30 million kurds in turkey,i am not australian i know kurdish culture enough.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 its not your job and make yourself guardian on him they have him tradation they know behalf of him child , why you basy yourself in this subject,they know him goverment if they study or not they dont get work becouse they kurdish , forthat they work free or they go to europe to work
goran21715 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 how kurd proto turk and kurd never seen mongolia and havent any turkish word in his language and mongolian featuer. kurd descending from many tribes of Zagros peoples had deeoth root in ergion , if you read hitory of any of ancient history you know how kurd perservation him language along his history l we said to 1 (eka) befor 4000 years ago & now we say( eka) that from Mitanni clat tablet,tell egyptian can keep him language only befor lalan,ofcouse they covert to arabic language
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715
my friend KURGAN is Turkish,in all tukic dialects in asia kurgan means grave. -gen,-gan,-gun.. these are turkic attictives.There are many kurgans in middle asia belong to turks.I suggest you search Turkish languages you will understand what i mean.
zzeynepp18 2 months ago
@zzeynepp18 ol said KUR NOT KURGAN , the central asia ancient history dont belong to turkic the invasion cenral asia in 8th AD century, befor islamic ennnvasion sassanid empire in 7th AD century the central asia was sittelment of lranian peoples and was noun Turan and was common term iranu turan , you can read TURAN ENCYCLOPEDIA to know reallty of term Turan which mijorty od turkish misunderstand it and thought its turkish term , indeed its cam from name of FAREYDUN sonTUR which mean darck
goran21715 2 months ago
RIGHT ON !
RulerOfBabylon 4 months ago
Well thought out, well presented, and excellent information. i didn't notice they (the Sumerians) were black. I, too had been taught the party line. Thank you for pointing out what seems now so obvious...
I appreciate too, your comment about whites needing to get over themselves...we really, really do. Nice work.
Samissue100 4 months ago
Peace ~ Love ~ And ~ Light
2813kasim 4 months ago
sumerian melanite? are you fucking stupidly mad???????????? o wow i think your trying to say ASSYRIAN....its ok to let it out
kingbigdawg9 4 months ago
I'm not sure if this is serious...
ViruzNoob14 4 months ago
@ViruzNoob14 Black not at once became black. At least, if to speak about a present human civilization, meaning that this civilization on the Earth not the first, probably.
But in our civilization black steels black only because of surplus of ultra-violet beams.
In Africa and in Australia. And it is a little in Sri Lanka.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
Blacks and Caucasians cannot live together, we're WAY TOO DIFFERENT.
guyNbluejeans 4 months ago
@guyNbluejeans how's being ignorant working out for you?
evilgummybear618 4 months ago
@evilgummybear618 Would you care to elaborate? All I see going on says the veracity of my statement is true.
guyNbluejeans 4 months ago
@guyNbluejeans Actually science shows races are 99.9% the same.
MrCherubhair1 3 weeks ago
@MrCher I tried to find the comment I posted to see where you were coming from but couldn't find it. I therefore will just say that I happen to love anyone of any race, but I do have a serious problem with so many black "youths" in this country stalking Caucasians and beating them to death! I also have a serious problem with the mainstream media not only turning a blind eye to what's going on but actually acting as if it's Caucasians that are out doing all kinds of horrible crap to other races!
guyNbluejeans 3 weeks ago
@MrCherubhair1 u pull that figure out of your azz it stinks like shit. the average asian brain is 1 cubic inch larger than the average white brain. the average white brain 5 cubic inches bigger than the average black brain but i would still merc ur skinny azz while ur girl suckin my dik
BigletJohnson 18 hours ago
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First of all you stupid cunt I'm White and Sumerian. So you got that wrong. And lastly go fuck yourself you ape.!!!!
yoashuain 4 months ago
Let me get this straight. You are saying that the ancient Sumerians were Negroes based on carved reliefs. That is a stretch buddy. None of the features of these people resemble Africans at all. You say their hair does but very few Africans have long beards. They all look like orthodox Jewish people to me. The very same people who handed down the creation and flood stories we know today. Not to mention the actual physical figurines found have blue eyes. I believe your interpretation is biased .
CynicalCell 4 months ago
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hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@CynicalCell
. I'm the Tatar. For me the external shape of Sumerian reminds only Tatars. These anthropological materials, figurines and bas-reliefs at all don't remind Jews, who have appeared on historical arena only 4000 years ago.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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Nevertheless, God specifically warns those who will try to add and subtract to his words that their rewards would be taking or their wrath would be added. Due to racism, some try to lie and twist things to fit their bias, but do not use the Bible or Torah as your source since they bear witness to that black man called Nimrod forming the Babylon civilization.
Shortyjored88 4 months ago
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Shortyjored88 4 months ago
You can call this afro-centric, but this is what is written in the Bible and Torah. God made sure Cushite and Hamite was written because he knew there would be those who would want to distort his words. Despite that, this one idiot once claim that Nimrod was a Kushite which was different than Cushite and that he was of Semite. I said to myself, it is written clearly that he was Cushite from Hamite, but because this person was racist, he had to make up things that wasn't written there.
Shortyjored88 4 months ago
After the flood, Noah and his family moved into Iraq, but it was not where they were at before the flood because I'm sure the flood displaced them. The ark would have left their original place and brought them near Iraq, where they were able to repopulate and rebuilt. They were led by this black Cushite Hamite whom God called a mighty hunter. If you don't agree with this, then use another source because this is what the Torah and Bible states.
Shortyjored88 4 months ago
According to Bible and Torah, a black man called Nimrod, who came from the line Cush, who came from the line Ham, built Babylon aka Mesopotamia along with 6 other cities. No matter what others say, he was not a Semite, though he spoke a afro-asiatic language. Canaanites or Phonecians were of Hamite (black). Also, Babylon was created after the flood, there would have been other civilizations before the flood destroy them.
Shortyjored88 4 months ago
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Shortyjored88 4 months ago
Aramiac came out of Mesopotamia not Ethiopia, get out of here Afro centrists shit head from U.S.
DIJV79 4 months ago
Egyptians are Egyptians, Sumerians are Sumerians not black,negro,colored. Our some other colonial brand, that was put on slaves in the America's. If your going to read ancient history, read it for what it is. Their is no black,negro,colored in ancient history, people of "hue" yes which means dark melanated not black. Their are billions of dark skinned people on this planet that does not mean their black. Even Africans don't use that term your Nigerian,Gambian,Sengaly etc, etc.
DIJV79 4 months ago
Vedic culture came out of Sumeria.
DIJV79 4 months ago
2 jelly beans sit on a plate, both different colors. One says to the other.. "I think i was made before you were" the other says.. " who gives a f**k, we're both about to be eaten".
porterhouse56 4 months ago 6
@porterhouse56 Hаhаhа.)
Rather strong joke at you. But a joke at you very much the pessimistic.
Who has thrust you in fetters of beans?
Not closely?
hunnoturk 4 months ago
Long live the INTERNET!!! I unsuccessfully searched for primary sources about Sumer in the USSR and in Russia during 23 y.3 year ago I have found these primary sources in the Internet. Long live the INTERNET!
hunnoturk 4 months ago
Sumerians are a branch of proto-Turks.Their scripts,dna,symbols matches with the anchient Turks.
zzeynepp18 4 months ago
Silly video! Sumerian came from Arabian peninsula the language&feature there writing proof that &they admitted themselves ,coz their were famous some Arians from quoqaz mountain came and settle with them they worship satin,the nopian kingdom in old egypt (eqyptos) were African ,grow up don't make people on the net lough about u dude!!
lavendderrable 4 months ago
all sumerian images of their GODS are based on SACRED GEOMETRY which is the LANGUAGE of GOD there you can find all IMAGES of the GODS from ALL CIVILIZATIONS AROUND THE WORLD !!!!!
Burkard 4 months ago
Thanks for this video I find it very interesting. You are in ma favorites now.
2prissyful 5 months ago
full of false information! mixing photos of other civilizations! first civilization was monkeys empire!
drlizard911 5 months ago