Volcanoes may not be fed by magma mushrooms

[dlindeman]

Interesting that larger magnitude earth quakes might not cause damage at all .its only when the force has catastrophic harmonics with buildings and such.greater and you might not notice until britain and new york touch each other (heh)

[sweetbilly]

True, but the intensity of earthquakes have been getting statistically greater and greater over the past few of years. Which is very interesting. Earth evolutionary centric science can't explain that, because there's no possible way to heat the earths core to create more convection. Unless they claim nuclear reactions are happening in the earth like in the sun. ha ha

This vid is proof of that. Rising molten rock cools and and increases in thickness reducing the occurrence of earthquakes

[sweetbilly]

Cooling rock would lock the tectonic plates in, not increase the occurrence of greater and greater magnitude earthquakes. Plate tectonics is an asinine theory that is antiquated and needs to be disposed of.

[m3141592]

You don't understand the science or evidence involved but you're sure the history of earth must be something that conforms to your religious prejudices.

Why can't you just admit that your beliefs are based on faith, and stop trying to disguise your religious beliefs as science.

They're not, and it's pointless for you to even discuss science if your beliefs cannot be changed by evidence.

[m3141592]

"the intensity of earthquakes have been getting statistically greater and greater over the past few of years."

Interesting if true. Source?

"evolutionary centric science can't explain that"

Obviously not. Evolution refers to biology.

"Unless they claim nuclear reactions are happening in the earth like in the sun. ha ha "

Not like the sun, fission not fusion.

"This vid is proof of that"

No the vid is a claim/hypothesis of that. Only observations of the physical world are evidence.

[dlindeman]

There has always been a fight between catastrophe theory and uniformitarians.

It definely has the ear marks of a good hydrid in the making. The shock event setting off a massive tectonic event which may or may not be sustained by a change in the core. God will send a anti shock and unite the world .

[sweetbilly]

That's really funny you should say that with the statistical increase of greater magnitude earthquakes happening around the globe now. Is the earth supposed to be heating up and convecting more now? No, it's not, because it's not plate tectonics it's shock dynamics. The melting of the northern glaciers is releasing the pent up "COMPRESSIONAL" energy which could potentially create the largest earthquake ever seen in human history ...per biblical claims. Mountains could come tumbling down.

[sweetbilly]

They don't exist, hot rock moving through overlying colder rock is a fairytale. They just perpetuate this crap because they refuse to do away with inferior antiquated theories ...like plate tectonics, which like this video illustrates provides no naturally occurring natural mechanisms for change. That's cause it's not plate tectonics but shock dynamics.

[sweetbilly]

There's no subsurface mechanism in place to create high enough heat to cause convection. Radiation can not account for the temperature gradient alone, as this vid shows rock is cooling over time not heating ...but friction from shock dynamics can make sense of it all, and out of place fossils etc... That's why they came up with the shrinking earth theory cause plate tech just doesn't work. But shrinking earth theory is bs too.

It is a LONG story that I can't validate in a 300 word posts.

[sweetbilly]

Just look up/Google "shock dynamics" and read it carefully, you'll understand it way better that way. :)

[m3141592]

@sweetbilly

Shock dynamics is a hastily patched together, demonstrably incorrect and laughably weak defense of bible literalism.

No scientific merit has ever been detected in the so-called 'theory'.

To believe that it is a more accurate description of nature means that you're totally ignorant of the theory you're arguing against; AND the so-called 'theory' you're arguing for; AND the scientific meaning of "theory"; AND the scientific method; AND the rudiments of physics.

[sweetbilly]

Yeah and you're really open minded yourself aren't you. Pot calling the kettle black a little maybe???

[m3141592]

"open minded "

Being open minded to the weight of evidence is fine. Being open minded to a theory which fits the facts is fine.

Being open minded to anything that supports your religious prejudices and ignoring every other idea regardless of how much more evidence it has is different. That would be a matter of spiritual faith, and nothing to do with how the physical world works.

You can either understand the science or you can believe god did it all with magic, but not both.

[sweetbilly]

Oh really, and you think you're not practicing a religion? ha ha

Actually just so you understand, what you're seeing is evidence for my faith. You can't put it together first because you don't know my faith and second you can't practice real science.

Now if you still feel I'm wrong prove evolution happened factually, WITH INDISPUTABLE SCIENTIFIC FACTS. You say you can't, and so does this very video! That's because you're practicing a religion as well not science.

[sweetbilly]

You will eventually find out as I have that main stream science knows absolutely NOTHING about this earth ....I cite this video as evidence of that. That's because you are practicing a religion and we are practicing pure science. That's why you don't understand why MANTLE PLUMES, plate tectonics don't exist. Why caldera's are extinct, why poly-strait fossils exist etc.. Evolutionary science is a joke. Evo scientists will leave this world as dumb as they came in.

[m3141592]

You seem to think saying things using sciencey sounding words makes them science. It doesn't.

[m3141592]

"religion"

No, you're completely wrong. You have no idea about the method.

[356pla]

@sweetbilly So there ha ha. Now I have given you the truth ha ha. So you can't refute it. No science ha ha

[m3141592]

@sweetbilly

"They just perpetuate this crap because they refuse to do away with inferior antiquated theories"

They keep a theory until another comes along which explains the facts better and gives more accurate descriptions and predictions.

Regardless of what your pastor or some guy you don't know (who was probably as scientifically illiterate as you seem to be) has told you, there is no detectable challenge to the basics of the prevailing theory, only it's minor details.

[sweetbilly]

Oh please don't make me laugh at you, I'm not the one with issues.

Subduction in the wrong direction. initiating subduction, subduction is too weak to create mountains, fauna and flora, existence of glaciers, uplift and subsidence, "MANTLE PLUMES", Mid ocean ridges, Listric faults, Reverse faults, Plate Tectonics which is globally random; each location has its own little story where the driving forces are hidden. ...shall I go on??? Batter theory? HARDLY!

BTW I am a Geologist.

[TheReasonWhyGuy]

0:59

Um, ok?

[xDanTManx]

ur mom is a mushroom

[joegadd]

thumbs up =)

[lejink]

i wish these videos were longer then 1min!!! theyr all so interesting n they just cut off right when it peaks your interest

[DEFAULTSProductions]

"Then you may have to change your mental image"

LMFAO !!!

[lilballs1]

Then it is clear that a volcano is an individual, therefor idiosyncracies exist but it's character is dependant on environment

[0003dg000]

Boring

[cortexedge]

So what?

I don't get it...

[javierenchina]

hmm...with MAGMA fluid dynamics, I'd imagine there's so much nonlinear action going on I'm not confident this can be an accurate model of it since it's scaled down so much

[wilce]

You're probably right, though they aren't really claiming it to be an accurate model; "may not" is pasted all over the video.

Either way, it's interesting to know... or at least to watch.

[MillyVanillification]

@javierenchina You are very correct. Scale is the key. Viscosity, temperature, gravitaional and magnetic forces, dynamics of the magma's volume, etc. If you'd take a snapshot, you can see a plume and a standing corridor (at 0:24). But the claim is, that our actual models are not accurate. And I agree on that.

[jimmy976uk]

jokertim777: I agree 100%.

[trime1851]

Good Stuff!

[jokertim777]

Warning: You are dangerously close to being unsubscribed. The last several videos have been rather weak. Please stop reinforcing the stereotype that science is boring and lame. Thank you for your cooperation.

[rxqueen22]

my project in school looked like a plume with the baking soda.:-D

[adrastea99]

LAVA LAMPS

[whitephillyboy13]

uh... um... wh- hell you know what, just screw it!

[HG2013]

new scientist? really?

[UncleKennybobs]

WHO THE WHAT THE WHY THE FUCK?

[nepalihercules]

wtf

[djindio555]

Plume

[amistrymister]

lol indeed

[AskZweldin]

lol wut?

[lezlieprapra]

i liked the end blooper.

[ragenono]

now i gotta redo my science project

[Giraffepotamus]

ill sleep good tonight, now that i know that

[adarqui]

lol

[LemonsNeedHelp]

Lava lamps have already proven half of what they're talking about.

[JeffydimWitt2nd]

very nice...

[tetranoob]

I don't understand

[monyet82]

this is too deep...i dun understand

[NicNasty1981]

Ive never pictured a volcano creating a mushroom plume. Has anyone else?

It just doesnt seem logical to me that it would, though i wouldnt dismiss it. Just wouldnt expect to see it everytime.

[RtFusion]

Not I.

But the demo looked pretty cool

[sweetbilly]

It's not logical, this isn't what's happening. That''s what they are saying in the video, the model for magma plumes has failed. Rising rock cools as it rises, not heats. The modern theory "magma plumes" contradicts all we know about physics.

[m3141592]

"The modern theory "magma plumes" contradicts all we know about physics. "

That simply isn't true. If you knew about physics or the current theories (the refinement in the video included), you would immediately realise that's incorrect.

But instead you prefer to get your beliefs about a subject from other scientifically illiterate and prejudiced people.

Because you're a tool. You're used like a hammer and nails by the groups who originate these sort of rumours.

[m3141592]

(And by "these sort of rumours" I mean the stories about natural history, but also religion in general.)

[shaolindreams]

what

[afbb125]

lol

[0c4pnh4nk]

I don't know what it means but It's really cool looking.

[jonesr999]

Hey Sandine, you're distorting the shape of my plume right here and now.

[Peacenik]

dude... sweet lava lamp

[455898334]

is this supposed to be useful???

[kushalaslayer]

Rely, I mean is there any point

[wobalizi]

yes, there is

[vdubmerc3]

Sometimes there might be information that will not benefit mankind, but it is still cool to find out why things happen the way they do.

[ares213]

The beautiful thing about science is that what you discover may not always be immediately useful. Gaining knowledge is in itself is important for human progress. It could take centuries before applications are developed from the knowledge gained through this experiment.

[Richona]

wow! thanks new scientist, ive finally found an answer to a question i never asked.

but who knows, one day this might be useful.

[superfisto]

Mushroom plume, we hardly knew ye.

[ScottishAtheist]

Mmmmm syrup.

[bishop8000]

Why the audio at the end?

[TheReasonWhyGuy]

I know... >.>

that was very weird.

[kushalaslayer]

I rely dont care

[canti1988]

i do

[kushalaslayer]

Well good for you

[MarkG45]

no u, science is helpful. go back to banging rocks together

[sooperman05]

Me Too!

[rexrae]

yea