Two comments, (a) guidelines now are to start with compressions not breaths, (b) although shouting for help is as soon as patient is found to be unresponsive, check breathing before sending helper to call an ambulance, so helper can tell the controller whether the patient is breathing or not and the ambulance controller can prioritize accordingly.
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initially the instructor said that the victim is unresponsive & not breathing, the lady did the right thing to call for help,AED & initial 2 breaths, but NEVER apply compressions immediately unless u check for pulse first, what if the victim's having respiratory arrest only huh?! Should apply only Rescue Breathing to that vicitm? So don't get confused- folow the complete algorithm of checking the Airway,Breathing & Circulation(PULSE) for you to have clear vision what exactly u need to apply.
If someone is not breathing then they still need CPR to keep the blood pressure in their system up. Or to keep the heart in VF (Ventricular Fibrillation) so the AED can shock it. If someone is not breathing you must start CPR ASAP.
you mean for LAYPERSONS? yes, i agree start CPR IF NO MOVEMENT, NO BREATHING, NO COUGHING, but not applicable to Health Care Providers, they're trained professionals and still have to check for pulse, according to ERC, AHA and ILCOR 2005 guidelines specially if you'll incorporate CPR with AED.
AED is more complicated to understand by Laypersons who had limited education, thats why they were NOT taught anymore to check for pulse. If you can teach them (Laypersons) how to use the AED thats okay but I strongly suggest PULSE CHECKING is also be included in the first place. Besides, AED there are certain Dos & Donts although it is very easy & friendly to use BUT pulse checking is much easier. Just a simple proper technique and location of Carotid arteries and thats it.
Of course. I absolutely agree. I took your first comment as aimed towards a lay responder. A health care professional of course should check pulses etc but I was talking about Laypersons! Apologies.
Under new guidelines, lay rescuers are no longer taught to check pulse, that is only for trained medical personnel or healthcare providers (BLS/ACLS). The only error I see, is when she was checking breathing, she was not looking directly at the chest and did not check long enough. No less than 5, no more than 10 secs.
What if you pulled the fire alarm to get help if there was no AED and you did not know where a phone was and if you did not have a cellphone? Why did someone pull a fire alarm when someone had a medical emergency?
In many communities , the fire department is the first on scene in a medical emergency . Using the fire alarm or street box does make some sense . When they arrive , they will see the situation and act appropriately .
Two comments, (a) guidelines now are to start with compressions not breaths, (b) although shouting for help is as soon as patient is found to be unresponsive, check breathing before sending helper to call an ambulance, so helper can tell the controller whether the patient is breathing or not and the ambulance controller can prioritize accordingly.
MegaTories 3 months ago
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Do you feel your panties bunch up as you do the compressions?
travelplus1 4 months ago
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americanmed 1 year ago
you guys refer to laypersons as if they are a sub-human species. come on
chogiepath 1 year ago
d way u givin tha comporession u will fracture tha ribs
floydferns1 1 year ago
she had limited education , we need more educated than this cute girl
3bood2009 2 years ago 2
This video needs to be updated. Instructor gave some good feedback, but steps were missed.
-check for breathing: student not looking directly at chest, not long enough.
-compressions: student not counting out loud
-AED: student did not clear victim on analyze and did not clear on shock
-AED not set for current guidelines (using old stacked shock protocol)
-the student took a long time to operate this Zoll trainer, other trainers can be analyzing within 15-20 seconds from arrival
calrageous 3 years ago
initially the instructor said that the victim is unresponsive & not breathing, the lady did the right thing to call for help,AED & initial 2 breaths, but NEVER apply compressions immediately unless u check for pulse first, what if the victim's having respiratory arrest only huh?! Should apply only Rescue Breathing to that vicitm? So don't get confused- folow the complete algorithm of checking the Airway,Breathing & Circulation(PULSE) for you to have clear vision what exactly u need to apply.
wilkylao 3 years ago
In the UK it is different.
If someone is not breathing then they still need CPR to keep the blood pressure in their system up. Or to keep the heart in VF (Ventricular Fibrillation) so the AED can shock it. If someone is not breathing you must start CPR ASAP.
miles200 3 years ago
you mean for LAYPERSONS? yes, i agree start CPR IF NO MOVEMENT, NO BREATHING, NO COUGHING, but not applicable to Health Care Providers, they're trained professionals and still have to check for pulse, according to ERC, AHA and ILCOR 2005 guidelines specially if you'll incorporate CPR with AED.
wilkylao 3 years ago
AED is more complicated to understand by Laypersons who had limited education, thats why they were NOT taught anymore to check for pulse. If you can teach them (Laypersons) how to use the AED thats okay but I strongly suggest PULSE CHECKING is also be included in the first place. Besides, AED there are certain Dos & Donts although it is very easy & friendly to use BUT pulse checking is much easier. Just a simple proper technique and location of Carotid arteries and thats it.
wilkylao 3 years ago
Of course. I absolutely agree. I took your first comment as aimed towards a lay responder. A health care professional of course should check pulses etc but I was talking about Laypersons! Apologies.
miles200 3 years ago
Under new guidelines, lay rescuers are no longer taught to check pulse, that is only for trained medical personnel or healthcare providers (BLS/ACLS). The only error I see, is when she was checking breathing, she was not looking directly at the chest and did not check long enough. No less than 5, no more than 10 secs.
calrageous 3 years ago
I'd flunk her !
Medic83301 3 years ago
What if you pulled the fire alarm to get help if there was no AED and you did not know where a phone was and if you did not have a cellphone? Why did someone pull a fire alarm when someone had a medical emergency?
travelplus1 3 years ago
In many communities , the fire department is the first on scene in a medical emergency . Using the fire alarm or street box does make some sense . When they arrive , they will see the situation and act appropriately .
Medic83301 3 years ago
Viewer Discrestion is advised...Not ;)
Lol that never gets old
lprules01234 3 years ago