If you are looking for Kinetic Energy & Some Power, Go with 75 Grain Hornady TAP/FPD Hollowpoints. Ive Dropped Deer & Many Wild Boars with 1 Shot (Well Placed Shot for the Deer, But He Fell forward on his front Knees-Ass Up And then fell on his side..) No, There would be nothing left of the Prairie Dog if a TAP was Used. V-Max is still a good round.
i have an original "test" box of varmint grenades 40gr and was given the chance to put a name to them im kicking my self for not loading them but the name would probably still be the same.
The only true advantage a .17 has is that it's just so small it pretty much just explodes on impact. The .223 will leave a bigger impact hole, carries WAY more energy with it, and will go a lot farther. Plus that kind of impact on a pop can can happen from a pellet gun. Just go with the .223.
@MrJp990 I think its a soft case with powder inside. Case fragments on impact, powder disperses most of the energy in a very short distance (like the diameter of a prairie dog's head) thus delivering maximum power and fragmentation to the unlucky critter. (correct me if im wrong anyone)
Hey, it's a quick death. Much quicker than being eaten by a coyote.
Wow! After watching this and several other demonstrations featuring the Barnes Varmint Grenade, I might have to go buy a DPMS in .204 Ruger just to try some of these!
I think if you always shooting with ear muffs there is no reason to not have a muzzle break. Not like there is a good amount of recoil, the less the better you will stay on target.
The varmint grenades are good shooting if your rifle has a fast enough twist rate. My friend has a .221 fireball TC encore handgun, I have a CZ 527 American rifle in the same caliber. The Encore shoots like crap with the varmint grenades, my rifle drives tacks with them. Then again my rifle drives tacks with pretymuch everthing I have shot out of it. Try the Remington V tip acupoints. They do a hell of a number on squirels, and possums at over a hundred yards.
I have shot both of these bullets and it seems to me that the V-max are way more accurate, i have a sub MOA AR15 and a can punch the primer out of a 12ga shell at 100yds with V-max but with the varmint grenade its tough to even hit the shell.... both will split a gopher in half nicely though.
@Waddymsun I have noticed that the Vmax tends to be more accurae as well. Im shooting a sundevil AR 20" 1 in 9. It is not primer punching accrate but It prints under an inch everytime. I think I may be able to get it one hole good with more ammo testing
I agree with that totaly. They seem to kill just as dead. The coyotes that I have shot would not be able to tell you the differance. Iuse the 55 grain V-Max, or Nostler Balistic tips in .223 and .221 fireball. I use whichever happen to be cheaper at the time. They all work very well.
@shaunpisk It's a good afternoon of fun shooting prarie dogs... Anyway you put it, that much speed with that many grains just blows the little suckers up!
i dont like the v-max 50grn shot thee coyotes and shot placement was perfect an had 2 shoot them again, takes off more hide than anything. old 55grn sps do best for me 1 shot 1 kill
muzzle brakes decrease accuracy. Once the bullet leaves the gun the BEST thing for that bullet is to have a great crown for even dispersion of gasses as uneven dispersion can cause the bullet to deviate off its path.
I have one on my AR and I HATE it >: ( So does everyone else who i sit next to when I shoot comp lmao
@lavid2006 Tha is not true. A MB does not decrease practical accuracy I have one on my 243 and it still blows updogs WAY out past the 500 line . It does make everyone elses life suck at the range though. he only difference MAY be to group shooter Benchrest guys but in the field there is no noticable difference.
@lavid2006 I can see that. I shot BR for a while (score shooting not group) I used a .30 BR. that didnt have a MB I guess Inever considered putting one on because it had VERY little recoil and was VERY accurate. The .30 BR is kind of a set and forget round anyway.
@lavid2006 I agree I suppose. like the .50 0BMG where a MB is mandatory to avoid serious damage to the shooter. My 243 came with it. one of the dial adjustable ones. I havet seen that the adjustment makes any noticeable difference though.
@lavid2006, with 20x scopes seeing the bullet strike is a must for quick follow-ups. Yes, .223 isn't much there, but every little bit helps from muzzle brakes, to reducing the blow back on the gas operated action.
@prairiedoghunting Muzzle brake also shoots the gas back at the shooter. I would say that is much less desirable than the slight increase in recoil. Noise is also an issue, however it is easily cured with hearing protection.
@prairiedoghunting I shoot .223 and do not use a muzzle brake and I have no problem staying on site... might be your hold. Or you just think it looks cool... tell the truth... You think its neat....
@maloso1313 I would bet he has more in that scope than you have in your entire rig. That could be one reason he is using a muzzle break. At 600yds and 20x mag any movement can make you unable to take a followup shot.
@lavid2006 you probably dont shoot much to know about practical shooting, or IPSC. In open class you are allowed to use muzzle breaks and every little bit counts.
IPSC is the combination of speed and accuracy in the multiplical classes of shooting. You can unload as fast as you want in IPSC - but as long as you don't score well along it doesn't matter how 'fast' you are.
Just choose the bullet that your rifle likes best.
My .308 is is unholy accurate with 110 grain hornady halfjackets (30 carbine). A full charge of 42 grains of IMR 4064 runs dead on at 3,000 fps (28 inch barrel)...
Hmm, no, not really. 55gr ball out of my 16 inch 1/9 twist AR punches clean through the front with a bit of a burst at the rear. The boys in the Sandbox are reporting similar on live targets. Too many rounds simply don't dump their energy right to make that mess.
Thats not true. A .22, 9mm and lots of other rounds will go straight through. Once you get around mach 3, the water bottle becomes a solid brick and shatters.
@jpete222 No it wouldn't. Most bullets are narrow with little surface area. This bullet is meant to expand on impact, increasing surface area and increasing internal expansion of whatever it hits.
@jpete222 You shoot enough jugs and there is defiantly a difference, my 300 win mag with 220 sierra match kings don't pop a milk just as good as a 50grain v-max out of my .223 both go about the same speed my .223 shooting pretty light loads.
@azulnox the jug is exploded thru hydrolic displacement if you shoot a full water bottel with a 9 mm and leave no ait spaces itll will explode just not as violently as these because of the velosity diff.
They are just hollow point and/or poly tipped bullets. They are not actual explosives of any sort, just rapidly expanding bullets. They should be legal anywhere that doesn't prohibit hollowpoints.
@phantomplanet843 like your really going to eat a prairie dog, a woodchuck or even a coyote? cause that's what these are for, varmints, are you really gonna eat a varmint?
@flamedrag18 Well I don't know about you but I shoot Prairie dogs, and all over varmints and feed them to my dogs. I get good practice in for shooting and my dogs get to eat, its better then feeding them dry crap food all day everyday.
I haven't tried the Varmint Grenade. I've just been using the 87-gr V-Max in my .243 Savage 12fv. .3 moa, .4 BC, and terminal ballistics that eviscerate prairie dogs. Since the V-Max is roughly $5 cheaper per 100, I think I'll stick with what I have.
thats probably due to the hole in the fount of the bullet making it unstable. i would try and put a thin bit of solder over the hole it will have no ill effect on the round and should fly a bit better.
i think v-max is better.... on the coke you cant tell but the water bottle disappeard while the varmit grenade still left some pieces lying around... on that water tank or whatever v-max shreded it all the way and the varmit granade didnt even split it all the way
i hate tree huggers like that one that wrote that comment. its really funny 2 c a regestired black angus cow fall in a fuckin prarie dog hole and break its leg. not. but it is funny 2 c prarie dogs go flying when they get hit by a v-max. EAT THAT BITCH
If you intend on Eating the varmint, use the V-MAx, becuase an explosive Would ruin most of the meat, And Whats left will have metal bits in in it. the V-max Will Also penetrate more. The varmint grenade is useful if you are in the Game Just to kill Stuff Without eating it
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you people are fucking sick, hunting animals for what, fun, meat, fur,(well meat i can understand) and then to go to develop bullets that completely tear an animal apart, that's just fucking sick. you people have no morals.
these bullets are for varmint. animals such as rodents and small predators that destroy crops and cattle. they are pests that need to be controlled and these bullets are designed to kill them quickly and humanely.
not only do they damage land/propert and destroy crops but they can also become very disease ridden. If their numbers arent controlled and they over populate they can easily transmit Rocky Mountain spotted fever, rat bite fever, Tularemia, Chagas disease, adiospiromycosis, encephalomycarditis and the Bubonic plague. Predators like endangered falcons, hawks and eagles, coyotes, badgers, foxes, domestic cats and dogs(pets) and even humans can become infected with these deadly diseases.
why don't you bring your tree huggin' self to southwest colorado and i'll show you the pastures with hundreds, sometimes thousands of holes in them, and maybe you'll be lucky enough to see a horse or a cow get it's leg stuck in one of those holes, break its leg and possibly have to get put down! hmm, sound fun to you? i know it doesnt sound fun to any of my friends with farms or ranches, therefore i do like i did today and go kill a couple hundred of them!
@78hdshovel You're absolutely right! Ignorant vegans do not realize that hunters are the only reason why they are able to lead their vegetarian lifestyle! If it weren't for hunters keeping the animal population under control, the animals would be eating and destroying more vegetation that farmers could produce! Then where would these bleeding heart vegans get their food from?
water is not a good analog to test bullets with. it is non compressible so all rifle rounds will do what those two just did. use ballistics gel next time to actually show a difference.
all im saying is why "test" bullets on water when all bullets will make the jug explode like that. how are we supposed to tell the performance of the round.
hornaday makes a 50grn 'SX' .224cal bullet that is made to do exactly what the varmint gredade does, only the hornaday is a soft point. I personally love them in my Remington 700BDL .222rem.
In Case you all missed it, the bullet that left the least amount of damage on the wood directly behind the can or bottles was the winner, which would be the grenade round. The other round is better for larger targets, but for total energy conversion inside the target, the grenade round wins. The other one had too much through penetration.
You know, I did a test on the Nosler PT 55gr, VMax 55, Granade 36gr, Hndy 55gr SPXP and a few others, the 36gr was loaded to shoot about 2600 fps, it penetrated deeper then the rest of the ammo.
are you a magician? that coke just disappeared!
JackedRado71 2 months ago
In conclusion: bullet's wreck stuff!
KSBitar 2 months ago
You sure showed those beverages who's boss.
Migs4000 4 months ago
I cant tell if there is a difference
The120mmSabot 5 months ago
you can't tell a thing by this vid
auradud3 6 months ago
72 dislikes are from Speer TNT Hollow Points shooters.
357223308 7 months ago
vmax is much better then vgs no comparison.
SavageHmr 7 months ago
And what did this test tell me, hmm well he wasted a coke
Lidmedia 8 months ago
worst bullet test i seen in a wile
street58cars 8 months ago
@street58cars
Worst grammar I've seen in a while too.
Patton306 8 months ago
A ballistic gelatin video done in slow motion would show the difference between these two. The varmint grenades are scarey in their efficiency.
rbilzing 9 months ago
If you are looking for Kinetic Energy & Some Power, Go with 75 Grain Hornady TAP/FPD Hollowpoints. Ive Dropped Deer & Many Wild Boars with 1 Shot (Well Placed Shot for the Deer, But He Fell forward on his front Knees-Ass Up And then fell on his side..) No, There would be nothing left of the Prairie Dog if a TAP was Used. V-Max is still a good round.
GOGETFUKD2009 10 months ago
i have an original "test" box of varmint grenades 40gr and was given the chance to put a name to them im kicking my self for not loading them but the name would probably still be the same.
MrROTTENJUGGALO 11 months ago
i would love to see one of those bullets hitting a human head :D
Zaidmolina 1 year ago
@Zaidmolina
hopefully yours
Leadman1989 11 months ago
@Leadman1989 i said to see it not to FEEL it better be yours or your mother's
Zaidmolina 11 months ago
@Zaidmolina
Yeah which makes you a psycho bitch... I think everyone would be better off if it were you
Leadman1989 11 months ago
@Zaidmolina I would like to see it hit an inner city coon.
MrAppleseed88 8 months ago 10
@MrAppleseed88 :P
Zaidmolina 8 months ago
dam that varmint grenade looks so pretty. I want to hold it
ntrudr800 1 year ago
Yup, that one worked
AClarke2007 1 year ago
Send that gun to Irag!
faffaflunkie 1 year ago
The only true advantage a .17 has is that it's just so small it pretty much just explodes on impact. The .223 will leave a bigger impact hole, carries WAY more energy with it, and will go a lot farther. Plus that kind of impact on a pop can can happen from a pellet gun. Just go with the .223.
fattyrackle 1 year ago
i clicked on this cuz it said: "Varmint grenade" XD
Shooterman0990 1 year ago
dude that sucks 50 grain
TheGarrettTV 1 year ago
cant tell the difference
birmzy1234 1 year ago 7
@Julie03235
Yes it is a full JP Ent. gun
prairiedoghunting 1 year ago
kind of equal. the first one might be a little better
wahhho 1 year ago
OMFG is the varmit grenade explosive or somethin
MrJp990 1 year ago
@MrJp990 I think its a soft case with powder inside. Case fragments on impact, powder disperses most of the energy in a very short distance (like the diameter of a prairie dog's head) thus delivering maximum power and fragmentation to the unlucky critter. (correct me if im wrong anyone)
Hey, it's a quick death. Much quicker than being eaten by a coyote.
zip0v 1 year ago
@zip0v hey i know nothing bout this round actually 3 days ago i just heard of it lol thank you for the infoemation
MrJp990 1 year ago
@MrJp990 That will be ten bucks, please. ;)
zip0v 1 year ago
@zip0v hahaha keep dreamin buddy XD
MrJp990 1 year ago
i bet that varmint gernade would be great in a mini 14
rockonmyfriend 1 year ago
please, please shoot me in my leaky asspipe with a Varmint Grenade.
jihaad 1 year ago
Wow! After watching this and several other demonstrations featuring the Barnes Varmint Grenade, I might have to go buy a DPMS in .204 Ruger just to try some of these!
GoBlackwater 1 year ago
I think if you always shooting with ear muffs there is no reason to not have a muzzle break. Not like there is a good amount of recoil, the less the better you will stay on target.
geneus23894c 1 year ago
Watch The best ever snipers in the Israily solders where the can shoot a two years old child from over a kilometer a way.
Best Human killing machins ever
osamaelshareef 1 year ago
@osamaelshareef
because they are used as a human shield,thats the pally way.
scorpioplatinum 1 year ago
The varmint grenades are good shooting if your rifle has a fast enough twist rate. My friend has a .221 fireball TC encore handgun, I have a CZ 527 American rifle in the same caliber. The Encore shoots like crap with the varmint grenades, my rifle drives tacks with them. Then again my rifle drives tacks with pretymuch everthing I have shot out of it. Try the Remington V tip acupoints. They do a hell of a number on squirels, and possums at over a hundred yards.
n8tex254 1 year ago
varmint gernade wins!
rockonmyfriend 1 year ago
you should fill thos milk jugs with newspaper and water it will help obsorb the shot and is fun to shoot at [thumbs up]
hunterwr69 1 year ago
I would have to say the varmint grenade.
deerdestroyer2009 1 year ago
I have shot both of these bullets and it seems to me that the V-max are way more accurate, i have a sub MOA AR15 and a can punch the primer out of a 12ga shell at 100yds with V-max but with the varmint grenade its tough to even hit the shell.... both will split a gopher in half nicely though.
Waddymsun 1 year ago
@Waddymsun I have noticed that the Vmax tends to be more accurae as well. Im shooting a sundevil AR 20" 1 in 9. It is not primer punching accrate but It prints under an inch everytime. I think I may be able to get it one hole good with more ammo testing
TGLymantaiste 1 year ago
@TGLymantaiste
I'm also building up a SunDevil based AR compliment my JP
prairiedoghunting 1 year ago
I get better performance out of the Nosler 40 grain balistic tip.
shaunpisk 1 year ago
@shaunpisk
I do also but with a 50 grain, But shoot the V-max because they are a bit less expensive for P. dogs
prairiedoghunting 1 year ago 3
@prairiedoghunting
I agree with that totaly. They seem to kill just as dead. The coyotes that I have shot would not be able to tell you the differance. Iuse the 55 grain V-Max, or Nostler Balistic tips in .223 and .221 fireball. I use whichever happen to be cheaper at the time. They all work very well.
n8tex254 1 year ago
@shaunpisk It's a good afternoon of fun shooting prarie dogs... Anyway you put it, that much speed with that many grains just blows the little suckers up!
shaunpisk 1 year ago
it looked like the same video feed repeated except the water jug at the end which was cut out for some reason.
The Barnes Varmint Grenade video is way better.
hunterfishman1 2 years ago
i dont like the v-max 50grn shot thee coyotes and shot placement was perfect an had 2 shoot them again, takes off more hide than anything. old 55grn sps do best for me 1 shot 1 kill
savage7477 2 years ago
its a cleaner kill as well.
i dont like the idea of incinerating my targets
JDnx 2 years ago
that's the fun part though.
StevePlysWithFire 1 year ago
why do you have that stupid looking muzzzle brake on the end of your AR?
.223 recoil is minimal/nonexistant
lavid2006 2 years ago
competitive shooting maybe.
meifert2 2 years ago
muzzle brakes decrease accuracy. Once the bullet leaves the gun the BEST thing for that bullet is to have a great crown for even dispersion of gasses as uneven dispersion can cause the bullet to deviate off its path.
I have one on my AR and I HATE it >: ( So does everyone else who i sit next to when I shoot comp lmao
lavid2006 2 years ago
@lavid2006 Tha is not true. A MB does not decrease practical accuracy I have one on my 243 and it still blows updogs WAY out past the 500 line . It does make everyone elses life suck at the range though. he only difference MAY be to group shooter Benchrest guys but in the field there is no noticable difference.
TGLymantaiste 1 year ago
@TGLymantaiste Does make a difference for BR shooters, for a hunter it may or may not disable him from hitting the game he is going after.
lavid2006 1 year ago
@lavid2006 I can see that. I shot BR for a while (score shooting not group) I used a .30 BR. that didnt have a MB I guess Inever considered putting one on because it had VERY little recoil and was VERY accurate. The .30 BR is kind of a set and forget round anyway.
TGLymantaiste 1 year ago
@TGLymantaiste Yeah I dont think I will put a muzzle brake on another rifle ever....unless its something crazy. Not worth it IMHO
lavid2006 1 year ago
@lavid2006 I agree I suppose. like the .50 0BMG where a MB is mandatory to avoid serious damage to the shooter. My 243 came with it. one of the dial adjustable ones. I havet seen that the adjustment makes any noticeable difference though.
TGLymantaiste 1 year ago
@lavid2006, with 20x scopes seeing the bullet strike is a must for quick follow-ups. Yes, .223 isn't much there, but every little bit helps from muzzle brakes, to reducing the blow back on the gas operated action.
prairiedoghunting 1 year ago 2
@prairiedoghunting Muzzle brake also shoots the gas back at the shooter. I would say that is much less desirable than the slight increase in recoil. Noise is also an issue, however it is easily cured with hearing protection.
lavid2006 1 year ago
@prairiedoghunting I shoot .223 and do not use a muzzle brake and I have no problem staying on site... might be your hold. Or you just think it looks cool... tell the truth... You think its neat....
maloso1313 1 year ago
@maloso1313 I would bet he has more in that scope than you have in your entire rig. That could be one reason he is using a muzzle break. At 600yds and 20x mag any movement can make you unable to take a followup shot.
Daytonaman675 1 year ago
@Daytonaman675 I bet I could shoot better then him with his own rifle.
maloso1313 1 year ago
@lavid2006 you probably dont shoot much to know about practical shooting, or IPSC. In open class you are allowed to use muzzle breaks and every little bit counts.
TomsGuns 1 year ago
@TomsGuns Theres a difference between shooting for accuracy, and shooting quick IPSC style.
lavid2006 1 year ago
@lavid2006
IPSC is the combination of speed and accuracy in the multiplical classes of shooting. You can unload as fast as you want in IPSC - but as long as you don't score well along it doesn't matter how 'fast' you are.
Sideshowbobx 1 year ago
@TomsGuns Not really, both require accuracy in the same manners
TomsGuns 1 year ago
@lavid2006 who cares how bout he likes it? or wants it, stfu
zardez 1 year ago
@zardez That didn't even make sence : |
lavid2006 1 year ago
what about the praire dog vaccum
jdymes101101 2 years ago
varmit rules
thetekker 2 years ago 2
i think i can see the diffrece but thay dont work in my 22/250 as my barral weist is 1:14" you nood a 1:10" or faster for VG ...Shame
strud34 2 years ago
carnt really c the diffrece
meisahe 2 years ago 2
with vg, there's no more pieces left of what you shoot
organist121893 2 years ago
Your brain on drugs!
jaybirdjtt 2 years ago
also a shotgun softair rocks those... -.-
RIkRedSkin 2 years ago
Just choose the bullet that your rifle likes best.
My .308 is is unholy accurate with 110 grain hornady halfjackets (30 carbine). A full charge of 42 grains of IMR 4064 runs dead on at 3,000 fps (28 inch barrel)...
Whitehorze 2 years ago 2
any freakin bullet will do that to a jug of water
jpete222 2 years ago 22
untrue
genocidemills 2 years ago 2
Hmm, no, not really. 55gr ball out of my 16 inch 1/9 twist AR punches clean through the front with a bit of a burst at the rear. The boys in the Sandbox are reporting similar on live targets. Too many rounds simply don't dump their energy right to make that mess.
Davito2000 2 years ago
Thats not true. A .22, 9mm and lots of other rounds will go straight through. Once you get around mach 3, the water bottle becomes a solid brick and shatters.
x1xBryanx1x 2 years ago
@jpete222 No it wouldn't. Most bullets are narrow with little surface area. This bullet is meant to expand on impact, increasing surface area and increasing internal expansion of whatever it hits.
Synicade 1 year ago
@jpete222 You shoot enough jugs and there is defiantly a difference, my 300 win mag with 220 sierra match kings don't pop a milk just as good as a 50grain v-max out of my .223 both go about the same speed my .223 shooting pretty light loads.
geneus23894c 11 months ago
@jpete222 Not true. Small caliber bullets like the 9mm don't have enough kinetic energy to rip the jug to shreds
azulnox 5 months ago
@azulnox the jug is exploded thru hydrolic displacement if you shoot a full water bottel with a 9 mm and leave no ait spaces itll will explode just not as violently as these because of the velosity diff.
nitroexpress700 3 weeks ago
@nitroexpress700 Thanks for the correction.
azulnox 2 weeks ago
HOLY DOOLY!
Draxis32 2 years ago
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lol 50 gain
mred6554 2 years ago
can anyone tell me if these are illegal in pennsylvania or not?
jigglypuff12346 2 years ago
im pretty sure they are im 90% sure that its ok
erikpeterson88 2 years ago
They are just hollow point and/or poly tipped bullets. They are not actual explosives of any sort, just rapidly expanding bullets. They should be legal anywhere that doesn't prohibit hollowpoints.
takalazee 2 years ago
Yeah, incredibly well designed.
xtelevisionset 2 years ago
you can use them i use 110 gr in my 270 wby it tear them deer all most in half
1hunterdale 2 years ago
well there goes all the meat
phantomplanet843 2 years ago 20
all u dont want to eat them thangs all i do with them is feed them to the dogs
1hunterdale 2 years ago
@phantomplanet843 Who eats prarie dogs ?
TGLymantaiste 1 year ago
@phantomplanet843 like your really going to eat a prairie dog, a woodchuck or even a coyote? cause that's what these are for, varmints, are you really gonna eat a varmint?
flamedrag18 1 year ago
@flamedrag18 Well I don't know about you but I shoot Prairie dogs, and all over varmints and feed them to my dogs. I get good practice in for shooting and my dogs get to eat, its better then feeding them dry crap food all day everyday.
adamslurch71 1 year ago
I haven't tried the Varmint Grenade. I've just been using the 87-gr V-Max in my .243 Savage 12fv. .3 moa, .4 BC, and terminal ballistics that eviscerate prairie dogs. Since the V-Max is roughly $5 cheaper per 100, I think I'll stick with what I have.
3cl3c71k0r 2 years ago
Looks like they both do the job...I thought the bvg was 36 grain for the .223
deerslayer25 2 years ago
which one is are more accurate? they both look effective in the frangibily aspect...
buckslayer3736 2 years ago
Vmax,
Varm. Gren. was terrible in my JP AR-15.
prairiedoghunting 2 years ago
thanks i was thinking about getting the vmax for yotes
buckslayer3736 2 years ago
@prairiedoghunting
thats probably due to the hole in the fount of the bullet making it unstable. i would try and put a thin bit of solder over the hole it will have no ill effect on the round and should fly a bit better.
tim0090 1 year ago
barnes dominates.
google- barnes bullets facebook.
you will see
g4gbrooks 2 years ago
wow do they exsplode
ggfish38 2 years ago
Interesting but inconclusive. Both rounds are very effective.
Roberthurz 2 years ago 5
next time shoot balistics gel
suzuki834 2 years ago
i think v-max is better.... on the coke you cant tell but the water bottle disappeard while the varmit grenade still left some pieces lying around... on that water tank or whatever v-max shreded it all the way and the varmit granade didnt even split it all the way
blobber01 2 years ago
Too close to call
DesolationAngels 2 years ago
varmit gernades better!
Southernpride005 2 years ago
The V-Max is far superior.
smallblockfuelie 2 years ago
barnes is way better
ThankYouSniper 2 years ago
BOOM LOL
mazzar35 2 years ago
??? There arent any critters in this video, hows about getting a less annoying life? Please?
fhffvdhvb 2 years ago
i hate tree huggers like that one that wrote that comment. its really funny 2 c a regestired black angus cow fall in a fuckin prarie dog hole and break its leg. not. but it is funny 2 c prarie dogs go flying when they get hit by a v-max. EAT THAT BITCH
brown3765 2 years ago 4
If you intend on Eating the varmint, use the V-MAx, becuase an explosive Would ruin most of the meat, And Whats left will have metal bits in in it. the V-max Will Also penetrate more. The varmint grenade is useful if you are in the Game Just to kill Stuff Without eating it
magnum9987 2 years ago
so what one is better? i was just wondering this, and i came across this vid...
Nugburner420 2 years ago
Both bullets react explosively to impact and will kill varmints quickly. Don't use on deer; it may work but don't bet the farm.
petie32 2 years ago 2
well for coyote i just stick with Remington sp 55gr. does the job. i might take my .223 for deer this year. probably use the sp
ETM299 2 years ago
Inconclusive! Borderline pointless.
challenger493 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
you people are fucking sick, hunting animals for what, fun, meat, fur,(well meat i can understand) and then to go to develop bullets that completely tear an animal apart, that's just fucking sick. you people have no morals.
MetalGhost360 2 years ago
these bullets are for varmint. animals such as rodents and small predators that destroy crops and cattle. they are pests that need to be controlled and these bullets are designed to kill them quickly and humanely.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago 31
Yup. prairie dogs multiply faster than most animals, so getting rid of them is
a bit "iffy" at most. they just make good fun target practice.
BlueCloneTrooper521 2 years ago 5
not only do they damage land/propert and destroy crops but they can also become very disease ridden. If their numbers arent controlled and they over populate they can easily transmit Rocky Mountain spotted fever, rat bite fever, Tularemia, Chagas disease, adiospiromycosis, encephalomycarditis and the Bubonic plague. Predators like endangered falcons, hawks and eagles, coyotes, badgers, foxes, domestic cats and dogs(pets) and even humans can become infected with these deadly diseases.
Formuladude 2 years ago 12
prarie dogs can also make you into a zombie
kingbestark 2 years ago
so in other words you have no morals PETA homo
ruic13 2 years ago 6
People eat Tasty Animals!
magnum9987 2 years ago
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you're right.
its stupid to blow up small animals, how cruel is this please?
I'd like to hit the hunters with a vermint granade.
YunGenda 2 years ago
you.are.retarded.
why don't you bring your tree huggin' self to southwest colorado and i'll show you the pastures with hundreds, sometimes thousands of holes in them, and maybe you'll be lucky enough to see a horse or a cow get it's leg stuck in one of those holes, break its leg and possibly have to get put down! hmm, sound fun to you? i know it doesnt sound fun to any of my friends with farms or ranches, therefore i do like i did today and go kill a couple hundred of them!
be quiet, hippie.
78hdshovel 2 years ago 50
And the reason why I'm here is, I'm interested in guns, and then I saw this.
YunGenda 2 years ago
@78hdshovel You're absolutely right! Ignorant vegans do not realize that hunters are the only reason why they are able to lead their vegetarian lifestyle! If it weren't for hunters keeping the animal population under control, the animals would be eating and destroying more vegetation that farmers could produce! Then where would these bleeding heart vegans get their food from?
GoBlackwater 1 year ago
@78hdshovel "be quiet, hippie."
Well said sir!
Daytonaman675 1 year ago 2
Why are you even here???
Do you hop around channels just to rag on varmint hunters, thats just lame.
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago 2
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Yes, you're right. I have planned this for years, and now, victory shall be mine!
Buahahahahahaha
And I didn't know that the vermints are such a great problem for the cows, that they profilerate like chinesemen o.o
I'm sorry.
I was just shocked about the cruelty shown in the video.
YunGenda 2 years ago
Its ok now you know, AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!
Just so you know young grasshopper it is a very cruel and fucked up world we live in, a bullet is a kind death compared to many others.....
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago 2
water is not a good analog to test bullets with. it is non compressible so all rifle rounds will do what those two just did. use ballistics gel next time to actually show a difference.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
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Bitch bitch bitch......
Dmac11a666 2 years ago
all im saying is why "test" bullets on water when all bullets will make the jug explode like that. how are we supposed to tell the performance of the round.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
Which one made it expand faster and larger......
Dmac11a666 2 years ago
well obviously but does this video show that?
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
Yes............
Dmac11a666 2 years ago
Don't try reloading for the varmint grenades unless your forced to with a lead ban.They group like crap in most rifles v-max wins hands down.
SavageHmr 2 years ago
hornaday makes a 50grn 'SX' .224cal bullet that is made to do exactly what the varmint gredade does, only the hornaday is a soft point. I personally love them in my Remington 700BDL .222rem.
metalman22417 2 years ago
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my 22 will smoke both of those rounds lol YEAH!!!
jers1320 2 years ago
da gramade
Elcapitan59 2 years ago
In Case you all missed it, the bullet that left the least amount of damage on the wood directly behind the can or bottles was the winner, which would be the grenade round. The other round is better for larger targets, but for total energy conversion inside the target, the grenade round wins. The other one had too much through penetration.
Pathos.
pathosbedlam 2 years ago
You know, I did a test on the Nosler PT 55gr, VMax 55, Granade 36gr, Hndy 55gr SPXP and a few others, the 36gr was loaded to shoot about 2600 fps, it penetrated deeper then the rest of the ammo.
mifslim 2 years ago
they both did the same thing made the shit blow up...both are outstanding rounds thou
darksoldier300 2 years ago 3
dude next time dont use coke cans to see the difference because whatever amunition you use, the can will blow up
cocojumb0 2 years ago
I like the v-max.
got me 2 does this last season.
haven't shot the grenade yet.
can't find them
odacir64 2 years ago
The gernade won right. lol
PBAProAir 2 years ago
Holly shit - is there anything left? Exploding heads? Damn.
cr500rebuild 3 years ago
Not a bad looking rifle but for that silly looking brake/flash hider.
It's a 223, not a howitzer.
Zinkyness 3 years ago
Its a bit much, it shoots just the same as a beenie coolie but without the size.
prairiedoghunting 3 years ago
the varmint grenade hasnt a patch on the v max in the real world--end of story.
223fox 3 years ago
Yes that would fuck a prarie dog up.
ItsKKs 3 years ago 3
id hate to get hit by one of them
zachman104 3 years ago
same as extreme shock..good stuff
dustycavalier 3 years ago
Seems the Barnes has the edge to me, but how did your rifle like them?
geoatv 3 years ago
so... Same fuckin' thing?
fuckedfoot 3 years ago 2
v max is the way to go i use 55 grain in my 22-250 i have taken grounhogs at 500 yards
1997chevz71 3 years ago
50 grain my ass Did u see the hole that thing put in the wood?
icelord991 3 years ago
no it really is a 50 grain Vmax and 50 grain V. Grenade.
I simply wanted to see the difference between the two. Frankly I have had poor accuracy with the V. grenade for a Prairie Dog application
prairiedoghunting 3 years ago
varmint grenade wins, hands down
jasonskyle 3 years ago
Who cares about a gallon of water...what will it do to 18" of balistic gell?
Derail07 3 years ago 7
Aren't the Varmit Grenades, especially in .22 hard to stabilize? What kind of twist barrel do you have on that AR?
farkingbastage 3 years ago
there's an "R" in the word grain
OzClawhammer 3 years ago