Coming from easily one of the greatest defenders of all time. I remember him saying this in the video and just laughing about it. Jordan did say Dumars was his best defender on him. I use to love watching them battle cause dumars would get right up in your chest and moved his feet so well kept you always going away from the basket. Jordan must have just loved that competitiveness out of him.
Honestly, what impressed me about Michael Jordan is not his high flying dunks but his smooth and accurate jump shots. Lebron can dunk high but he's poor on jump shots and that's why he can't surpass Michael.
dont compare jordan and Kobe, what jordan's fade away advantages on kobe, was its more lighter, smooth and accurate., but i agree that kobe's fadeaway is more beautiful than mj. thats it.
@kayoah kobe does have a nice fadeaway, dont get me wrong, but the thing about jordans fadeaway is that it was always squared as he was in the air. thats what made it beautiful and unstoppable.
@shootinggguard9 lmao kobetard in the house. It's funny you say that because he can't even make one fadeaway against the 9yr old kid while 50yr old MJ makes slamball player his bitch. gtfo dickrider. more beatiful my ass ahaha
@shootinggguard9 hey kid, its not about which shot is more beautiful, its which are more effective. and MJ was FAR more effective than what kobe could ever dream about.
but I don't understand how you can say 'FAR', because that simply is not true.
Look, the NBA gets better and better, and so do defenders. Unlike Kobe, Mj was a step ahead in terms of athleticism and strength in his era. I'm not saying Kobe is on MJ's level, but i don't think he's that far away... Keep in mind that Kobe is playing on a bad knee for years, which limits his athleticism.
Every move MJ made was for a reason. He could score this shot going to his right as good as to his left, but he usually worked with his foot to create space for going left so the defender had to use his right arm as a reaction to contest the shot (you wanna use your left to a right shooter). MJ was THAT good.
GMon3y, I play basketball every other day. I'm simply 5'6 and I am able to dunk! I just took the workout at 50-inch-vertical(dot)com - anyone can do it
Man, It's good to see some Jordan highlights. I'm impressed every single night I see Kobe playing, how could a guard play better than that. But then I remember Jordan days. He's from another planet. No one in bball history had a fadeaway and a drive close to his.
And NBA is not gay. Look at Bowen. How much suspensions he got through his career? Like 3 or 4? And he would easily have a place in Detroit bad boys.
Where's that clip of Jordan's game-winner against Gerald Wilkins? I think he was playing for the Magic then. Wilkins was literally hand-PUNCHING Jordan at the wing, and I'm not exaggerating. Jordan still gets up a jumpshot and of course...nails it.
Kobe has a better fadeaway yet he can't average 30+ with it over his career and cannot even match Jordan's worst FG% in his bulls years? Only 2 scoring titles, in a league that favors perimeter players?
@uberathlete Lol really? Your in idiot, your on fucking crack cause Kobe Bryants fadeaway is untoutchable. No its cause you dont like Kobe Bryant so its overrated....righhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttt
@uberathlete Nah Dick. Jordan tought him how to patten the fade Moron I can appreciate a Great Bball Plyer unlike u cause u dislike the guy Kobe Bryant is 1 of the greatest players ever jackass 8th all x scorer and climbing and at the rate he is goin he will cruise pst kareem abdul-jabar
5 NBA titles and Counting, 2 finals MVPS, MVP, 9x 1st TEAM DEFENSE. 13 xall star, 9x all nba 1st team. Just shows your a little bitch if cant acknowldge those accomplishments. highest paid player to bitch.
@jimmychuang his game is exactly like jordans. kobe dosent have hands, speed or quickness like michael. its not his fault. People do not like Kobe bryant because he will always be the closest thing to jordan. Is kobe bryant better than jordan? i dont think so yet. Espcailly the era jordan played in. do i really need to type the players names he played againts.........lol no.
I never knew how great MJ was until i started playing NBA 2k11! :D
Before the game, I saw some of his highlights and tought - well MJ is good, but Is he better than Lebron, Wade and the rest of todays superstars?-
And now, after the 2k11 I did a little research aaaand yes, yes he is better then anybody in todays NBA.. Kobe is pretty close -> If Kobe gets another ring this year, and it looks like he will, they might be about the same!
@artuurslv Unfortunately, MJ's accomplishments individually far surpasses Kobe's. MJ's stats are astronomical, and while people will conveniently point out that "stats aren't everything", it is worth noting that MJ is:
#1 all time in PER
#1 all time in blocks for a guard
#2 all time in steals
#3 all time in rebounds for a guard
This even ignores his offense. MJ was just so dominant on both ends of the floor. So Kobe's "close", yet still a mile away.
@uberathlete he maybe miles away,, but hes the only guy who can be compared to the great one,, not bron not wade or even melo,, we kobe fans admit that jordan will always be the best of the best,, but youve gotta put kobe in there
for all the great years kobe has had, to even reach 30 points average for career he would have to average 36 his last seasons coming. Not going to happen. In an era that is wayyyy softer than mid 80's to 98.
@uberathlete Kobe is the closest thing to jordan but the closest doesnt even come tha close to jordan overall Jordan is the best P4P unguardable fadeaway that only kobe could master
@artuurslv lol...yeah, that game is actually a good way to see how much of a better player he is than everyone else...it shows how the court was really a playground for him...and his dunks on the game are far more amazing than anyone elses...same goes for real life!
@loboapo28 no he aint. Kobe has more skill ask phill jackson and every analyst. Kobe is the best perimeter and mid range player ever. just caus eMJ was "first" doesnt make Kobe worse. Kobe is a better ballhandler, scorer, tough shot maker (easily the best ever at tought shots) footwork, and fundamentals. MJ was a better driver, better inside period, better defender. now thats all true. u cant take away from Kobe cause he played with fat fuck shaq. Kobe is the most skilled player ever.
Jordan's fadeaway game was a work of art. Very beautiful and effortless. He made it look so natural and easy. Players like Kobe, Wade and even Melo have good fadeaway shots but when they do it it doesnt look as natural as the way Jordan made it look. Its as if they try so hard to make their fadeaway shot look amazing. And lets not get into the Jordan/Kobe debate. Jordan is the G.O.A.T. Jordan's stats, achievements and style of play speak for itself. Not to mention Kobes had more help around him
OK guys, We will never know who's better, KOBE or JORDAN?!!! Who gives a fuck about the stats because they've never really played against each other. Who knows what each player is capable of doing, KOBE might be an unstoppable player back in JORDAN's era or JORDAN might be an unstoppable player in KOBE's era. Who knows, both might suck in each player's era. All I have to say is stop comparing the both. JORDAN will always be JORDAN and KOBE will always be KOBE.
@sactownism uhm they did play against each other when mj was 40 and still balling whereas kobe was in his prime. based on what mj did at that time i know he would kill in todays era. phil jackson even said mj would average 45 a game in todays era which says alot. i can't say the same about kobe in mj's era.. maybe in his very prime he would be considered a top player but seriously his choices and shooting sucks
I think kobe deserves a little more credit than that. Theres noone back then that should even be considered better besides jordan. Magic could be in the convo but i dont think hes as good as either of them
MJ is oviously waaaaay better than kobe... you can even look up the stats and u see that.. and the defense in the 90s was way tougher than today's defense.. .there are no real centers nowadays and the referees make superstars untouchable...
GMon3y dude, I gained past 15 inches on my leap by finishing the workout at (50 inch vertical [dot] com). now being able to dunk is nothing I have to be anxious about in basketball finally, haha
@figmentofmyimag24 That's ur best response no wonder your all over kobe's nuggets ur 2 easy 2 impress. It's easy 2 dismiss these claims when u actually see MJ in action & compare (which is not possible) it 2 kobe's & see that kobe is good but not at MJ's level. MJ took his place in the nba he never rode anyone's coattail & was the main man on his team NEVER second to anyone & did it with class something a little snot like u will never attain. Another thing dumb ass he dominated in the 90's too.
@rob23molina one word (evolution) while the game has evolved from the 90s to today so have the players. and when you say MJ was on no ones coattail, thats disrespecting Dr. J. Jordan always had Pippen who is now in the top 50 Greatest Players ever. kinda convenient right>and what proves the 90s were more dominant? there are more elaborate ZONE defenses these days that were never seen in the Jordan era. so SHHHHHHHHHH!!!
@figmentofmyimag24 WTF does dr j have to do with this. Yes MJ had pippen but MJ made pippen kobe didn't make shaq cuz he was the team. Get your shit right and try and stay on the subject. It wouldn't matter what defenses you through at MJ he defeated them as he would today but you elude to the fact that it was more physical nowadays it isn't even close. You can cry & bitch all you want but all your ranting is just opinion based on WHAT not a damn thang.
dude, crazy plays. GMon3y I especially like the beginning =) Can you believe that I finally worked hard enough to start dunking! I just used the a real workout course at "50inch vertical (dot) com" and managed it in only 2 months!
GMon3y, this video reminds me of why I love basketball, along with all the bloopers. If you can't dunk yet, you GOTTA start training. I definitely recommend you to try the one I'm using - "50inch vertical (dot) com" - I m 5 7 and I can dunk!
Look at some of the defenders. They can't even contest MJ's sot cuz they don't know where he's gonna turn and because he uses that head fake so effectively.
I am surprise not a lot of today's player tries to learn this unguardable move, I saw Kobe and KG does it sometimes. But watching the master do it is just beautiful.
@dajeejee well it's partly because players today don't even have good midrange shots. It's also because it takes a lot of energy to actually pull it off.
@dajeejee I think guys like Kobe don't want to learn this move because they don't want to copy the G.O.A.T. Kobe already deals with Haters saying that he's trying to be Jordan. Imagine Kobe doing this move at all times like MJ. He has all the ability but he works on a lot of other moves. This is a great point though
MJ had the sweetest post-footwork (next to the Dream).
The timing of it could throw almost any defender off. If it was anybody around his size, they looked like a little shooting guard trying to guard a center.
Ask Kobe if he thinks he's better than MJ, for all you people having this silly argument. In response to the village idiot Stephen A. Smith, I quote him: "Stop comparing me to him, he's the greatest to ever play the game. Let me be me." I mean really, I thought Jordan being the best ever was one of the things that you don't argue about in sports anymore.
@oliverrainman I disagree. MJ has the best fadeaway in the history of the game, and inifinitely more efficient than Kobe's. Kobe's fade is a cheap imitation.
@uberathlete am not taling about making them am talking about how it looks just look at mj's fadeaway it looks like its stiff and look at kobe's it's different it does not look stiff get what am saying
@oliverrainman That's a pointless assessment. THe argument is about effectiveness, not how attractive the shot looks. Do you really watch basketball, because that sound's like a chick's perspective.
@estalling i have tried many fadeaways in my life after seeing mj and kobe i like kobe's fadeaway cause it's comfortable u come up right and u land right the one mj' take's is uncomfortable just look at how they do it and try one of them
@oliverrainman just do ur own fadeawway..its a fadeaway ...its not their OWN move..vince carter has 1 , lebron james has 1, carmelo has 1, pierce has one, evrybody does it, HOW THEIR COMFORTABLE DOING IT
@oliverrainman Hahah, you're kidding right. 1st of, you can't even bump the shooter like before, he has pretty bad post moves, and shoots like 30% when he shoots the fadeway.
Also notice, he doesn't do it as much anymore? Bc he really isnt that good on it, and just relied on physical talent (also, studying MJ's moves very very closely helps too).
He also does it with the worst timing, does out of the flow of the offense, and esp in the playoffs, it is not a wise shot to take at all.
LeBron is better than Kobe imo, but we will see through the years. Shame on that rules change, i would like to see him play against hard defenses like this ones against MJ.
at 3:53 is that a travel? if u slow it down, his pivot foot lifts off the ground before his back foot, technically a travel, yes or no? just wondering because i'm trying to practice the fade away and when i spin that way it's hard to be effective without truly traveling. please advise.
After coming to a stop and establishing the pivot foot: a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the playing court, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal. b. The pivot foot shall not be lifted before the ball is released to start a dribble.
@evek2345 yeah, he traveled. He got away with it because he's Jordan and did it really fast. In that time you could, lebron's unstoppable 'hop-step' made it so that you couldn't get away with moving both feet.
MJ is the biggest beast he will get at bit chance of hitting his fades and the weird thing is Michael didn't make it into his high school sport team and now he was NBA BEAST!
i love how at 1:36, Michael still tries to put himself in a position to pass the ball, always giving himself an option to. Kobe always put himself in bad situations and gets praised for it. No contest, MJ GOAT
lol right ur one year older then me u dident see jordan play lol u talk like u do cause everytime someone says something about who the best is u get all offensive and pull the oh well u have never seen him play card when actually ur a yr older then me dip shit lol like u did? Hate to love me or love to hate me when i say this KOBE BRYANT IS BETTER sorry to burst ur little mj bubble but take away stats take away rings as a BASKETBALL PLAYERS kobe bean bryant is better than michael idk Jordan
nba is now easier than the nba during that era...look now, superstars are almost untouchable,nba is protecting them from harm by what,,1st removing the def. 3 second rule, and 2nd removing the handcheck..
the slightest touch..oops...even a breath on them would cause you a foul....
@zaza09 All true. Defenses today are a little more complex than they were back then. plus you can double team when the player doesnt have the ball where as you couldn't in MJ's era. Not that any of that makes a difference, MJ would dominate any era.
@zaza09 look at all the non calls kobe doesn't get. he was checked pretty hard when they beat the Thunder in OKC a couple weeks back. don't tell me shit was tougher back in the day because your idol mj played in that era dumb fuck
@reneperezz the truth is after NBA changed the handcheck rules, the league avg. eFG% keeps going up. From 2004 to 2008. In 2008, the league's eFG% was the highest in 25 years, and 2009-10 even higher than 2008.
Hand checking was added when Jordan played and the game was easier when that came in. A lot of rules were added due to Jordan. I remember this during his prime before his first retirement.
Does anyone actually KNOW why MJ's fadeaway was so godly? Because of his jumping ability, his jump in a fadeaway was higher then others could jump VERTICAL.
it wasn't mainly because of his jumping ability that made his fadeaway so deadly, it has to do with his ability to feel which way his defender is forcing him towards, his incredibly strong body for a guard, and a bunch of other things like as you said leaping ability/experience/concentration etc
Think about this for a second, take out his jumping ability and leave everything else in, most of MJ's fadeaway's were with defenders in his face (Hence the reason for the fadeaway), without that jumping ability, that fadeaway would be NO WHERE as effective, all the great fadeaway jumper players had a great jumping ability. It gives the player a fairly clear view of the basket.
well yes jumping higher does give you a better advantage for your fadeaway, but just remember MJ in his wizards days still had a great fadeaway despite having little jumping ability left compared to the young athletes, so i'd say other things play a pretty big role too
do you even know what the fuck i'm even arguing about? since when did i blame anyone's height or ne shit like that? you are not making sense at all and bringing in some random shit like that
fucking idiots like you piss me off
I was responding to the guy that said MJ's jumping ability is what made his fadeaway great, and i dispute that
know what you're fucking talking about before responding with some stupid shit,
I said whether MJ's fadeaway would've been pretty good/effective regardless of whether he had inhuman vertical leap or not which is demonstrated by his wizards year
so what the fuck are you talking about with that yao ming rebound shit?
SERIOUSLY just fucking learn reading comprehension, it can help you get far in life and not sound like a dumbass like you are now u dumbfuck
Jordans fadeaway was so incredible, that even at 40 years old with most of his athletisism gone, the "super athletic Kobe stoppers" of the league still couldnt stop Mike in the post.
The song is ok, but the quality of the video does a disservice to Jordan's fade away. I guess it was a compilation of other youtube videos. Re encoded the re encoded then re encoded again,
go back to bagging groceries, stark. you can't hang you little bitch. none of these niggers can hang. why do they even bother?.. yeah the really just need to rename this move to the J-away.
MY OPINION so dont start talking shit to me on the internet lol shows u how lame u are but i think Kobe's Fade is way more nastier then jordans watch kobe fade over lebron OMGGGGGGG and i think kobe is better perioooooooooood. and alot of people have never seen jordan play they just say hes the best because other people say it.
well, not to say that you are wrong, but the fact that the list of things MJ had accomplished in his career makes him a freak of nature, and seeing how he had done it would just blow you away regardless if you say he's the best or not
And as of today. kobe is also dropping other peoples' jaws as well lol
its jsut hard to imagine how hard all of these shots are.i mean i played high school basketball and the 3 is obviously closer but mj is shooting highschool 3 fadeawys all day long and mj is just wet wet all day from anywhere on the floor.the difficulty can only be realized by true basketball fans and yet he makes it look like hes shooting free throws but with 3 ppl in his face. MJ IS THE GREATEST NO DOUBT. im a kobe fan cuz hes the closest thing my generation has to MJ
I live in LA of course im a laker fan, but I have to admit that Jordan if better than Kobe, or anyone for that matter. the main reason is his mind is so unwavering, and his mind gets tougher as the competition gets tougher, his skills, and physically complement his mind. Also to compare him to kobe, first of all jordan is just naturally stronger than kobe,kobe can work out all he wants but jordan is always gonna be stronger therefore he can explode stronger and push away his opponents stronger
jordan only had pippen to win 6 rings jordan didnt have much of a starting 5 denis was good but others arent as good as kobes 5., kobe was a side kick to shaq in his first 3 rings and kobe needed gasol, bynum, ariza, fisher (all these good players) to win a ring so stfu.
Kobe's fade away is more impressive because he fades further and has more range.
espdemon 2 weeks ago
@espdemon lmao dickriding faggot trolling like a bitch
jeenafme 1 week ago
5:10 was sweet as life.
vidaa82 3 weeks ago
3:39-3:43!!! omg!!
vidaa82 3 weeks ago
GOAT
pacfan4life 2 months ago
michael got better fade them kobe
wilzusuki 2 months ago
"you're not gonna jump and block this shot, get it out of your mind, you're not gonna jump and block it" Joe Dumars on MJ's fadeaway
Jumpman1989 3 months ago
Coming from easily one of the greatest defenders of all time. I remember him saying this in the video and just laughing about it. Jordan did say Dumars was his best defender on him. I use to love watching them battle cause dumars would get right up in your chest and moved his feet so well kept you always going away from the basket. Jordan must have just loved that competitiveness out of him.
Bigturns33 2 months ago
BEAUTIFUL!
timothyjesus 3 months ago
Honestly, what impressed me about Michael Jordan is not his high flying dunks but his smooth and accurate jump shots. Lebron can dunk high but he's poor on jump shots and that's why he can't surpass Michael.
Deecee022 4 months ago
makes it look so easy.
Ducati549r 4 months ago
lol @ 5:08 notice how the ref walks away before the shoot goes in like "please thats jordan
darighthandofgod 5 months ago
gay song
KickzNGraff 5 months ago
man no D for that ask utah's russell
ibou014 5 months ago
the NBA's most deadliest weapon....MJ's fadeaway
sprakenenhaytenss 5 months ago 13
@sprakenenhaytenss skyhook?
Robinqq11 3 weeks ago
@90treehouse thxx
ancaMC27 6 months ago
witch is the name of the music? i looove this!
ancaMC27 6 months ago
@ancaMC27 12 stones - fade away
90treehouse 6 months ago
dont compare jordan and Kobe, what jordan's fade away advantages on kobe, was its more lighter, smooth and accurate., but i agree that kobe's fadeaway is more beautiful than mj. thats it.
kayoah 6 months ago
@kayoah kobe does have a nice fadeaway, dont get me wrong, but the thing about jordans fadeaway is that it was always squared as he was in the air. thats what made it beautiful and unstoppable.
s0meguy09 6 months ago
GARBAGE
classicx24 7 months ago
I cried during this man, great did.
JayNyc03 8 months ago
I never saw Kobe Bryant make just one shot as beautifull as any one of this video
marianogesteira 8 months ago
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shootinggguard9 7 months ago
@marianogesteira
Kobe's shots are more beautiful, look it up :p
shootinggguard9 7 months ago
@shootinggguard9 lmao kobetard in the house. It's funny you say that because he can't even make one fadeaway against the 9yr old kid while 50yr old MJ makes slamball player his bitch. gtfo dickrider. more beatiful my ass ahaha
brian05fubu 6 months ago
@shootinggguard9 hey kid, its not about which shot is more beautiful, its which are more effective. and MJ was FAR more effective than what kobe could ever dream about.
BlaZiiNxIIxGuNn3R 6 months ago
@BlaZiiNxIIxGuNn3R
I agree with your first sentence,
but I don't understand how you can say 'FAR', because that simply is not true.
Look, the NBA gets better and better, and so do defenders. Unlike Kobe, Mj was a step ahead in terms of athleticism and strength in his era. I'm not saying Kobe is on MJ's level, but i don't think he's that far away... Keep in mind that Kobe is playing on a bad knee for years, which limits his athleticism.
Maybe you won't agree, but it is my opinion.
shootinggguard9 6 months ago
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thomasgubaton19 8 months ago
Every move MJ made was for a reason. He could score this shot going to his right as good as to his left, but he usually worked with his foot to create space for going left so the defender had to use his right arm as a reaction to contest the shot (you wanna use your left to a right shooter). MJ was THAT good.
marianogesteira 9 months ago
The master of fadeaway: Michael Jordan
MrJohnnycai 9 months ago
@MrJohnnycai The mastery of basketball: MJ
marianogesteira 9 months ago
GMon3y, I play basketball every other day. I'm simply 5'6 and I am able to dunk! I just took the workout at 50-inch-vertical(dot)com - anyone can do it
beckydanielss 10 months ago
Man, It's good to see some Jordan highlights. I'm impressed every single night I see Kobe playing, how could a guard play better than that. But then I remember Jordan days. He's from another planet. No one in bball history had a fadeaway and a drive close to his.
And NBA is not gay. Look at Bowen. How much suspensions he got through his career? Like 3 or 4? And he would easily have a place in Detroit bad boys.
andreoinepto 10 months ago
MJ is the best ever so deal with it people. Non calls, calls who gives a shit. No one touches MJ. End of story.
SF11BOMBS 11 months ago
Who sings this song?
1987Kyro 1 year ago
@1987Kyro 12 stones fadeaway
pacfan4life 1 year ago
bow wow
1skatergirl1001 1 year ago
@uberathlete i concur
pacfan4life 1 year ago
Where's that clip of Jordan's game-winner against Gerald Wilkins? I think he was playing for the Magic then. Wilkins was literally hand-PUNCHING Jordan at the wing, and I'm not exaggerating. Jordan still gets up a jumpshot and of course...nails it.
modneonj 1 year ago
song?
ambrosius1111 1 year ago
@zaza09
yeah and refs now commit fouls
speedgrapherz 1 year ago
KOBE BRYANT has a better fade away shot than MICHAEL JORDAN.
sactownism 1 year ago
@sactownism
Kobe has a better fadeaway yet he can't average 30+ with it over his career and cannot even match Jordan's worst FG% in his bulls years? Only 2 scoring titles, in a league that favors perimeter players?
Hawkhunter07 1 year ago
@sactownism Umm .. no. lolz. Kobe has probably the most overrated post game and fadeaway in history.
uberathlete 1 year ago
@uberathlete Lol really? Your in idiot, your on fucking crack cause Kobe Bryants fadeaway is untoutchable. No its cause you dont like Kobe Bryant so its overrated....righhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttt
RTR9 1 year ago
@RTR9 Nah man. Kobe's fadeaway is way overrated. Your a Kobe nuthugger, his balls are on your eyes so you can't see it.
uberathlete 11 months ago
@uberathlete Nah Dick. Jordan tought him how to patten the fade Moron I can appreciate a Great Bball Plyer unlike u cause u dislike the guy Kobe Bryant is 1 of the greatest players ever jackass 8th all x scorer and climbing and at the rate he is goin he will cruise pst kareem abdul-jabar
5 NBA titles and Counting, 2 finals MVPS, MVP, 9x 1st TEAM DEFENSE. 13 xall star, 9x all nba 1st team. Just shows your a little bitch if cant acknowldge those accomplishments. highest paid player to bitch.
RTR9 11 months ago
@RTR9 Yes, Kobe is great, and he is MJ type of player.
jimmychuang 9 months ago
@jimmychuang his game is exactly like jordans. kobe dosent have hands, speed or quickness like michael. its not his fault. People do not like Kobe bryant because he will always be the closest thing to jordan. Is kobe bryant better than jordan? i dont think so yet. Espcailly the era jordan played in. do i really need to type the players names he played againts.........lol no.
RTR9 9 months ago
@RTR9 Kobe is not better than MJ. Yes, it's true.
jimmychuang 9 months ago
can*
MrTHUGalog187 1 year ago
nobody cant stop that fade away!
MrTHUGalog187 1 year ago
man such a joy to watch jordans jumpshoot the mj's way to shoot
wewewed62 1 year ago
Kobe?? he was just like every star in nba history.
Mj is simply unique being.
197474ma 1 year ago
I never knew how great MJ was until i started playing NBA 2k11! :D
Before the game, I saw some of his highlights and tought - well MJ is good, but Is he better than Lebron, Wade and the rest of todays superstars?-
And now, after the 2k11 I did a little research aaaand yes, yes he is better then anybody in todays NBA.. Kobe is pretty close -> If Kobe gets another ring this year, and it looks like he will, they might be about the same!
artuurslv 1 year ago
@artuurslv Unfortunately, MJ's accomplishments individually far surpasses Kobe's. MJ's stats are astronomical, and while people will conveniently point out that "stats aren't everything", it is worth noting that MJ is:
#1 all time in PER
#1 all time in blocks for a guard
#2 all time in steals
#3 all time in rebounds for a guard
This even ignores his offense. MJ was just so dominant on both ends of the floor. So Kobe's "close", yet still a mile away.
uberathlete 1 year ago 6
@uberathlete he maybe miles away,, but hes the only guy who can be compared to the great one,, not bron not wade or even melo,, we kobe fans admit that jordan will always be the best of the best,, but youve gotta put kobe in there
blo0dsh0t420 1 year ago
@uberathlete Whats PER?
X619mysterio 2 months ago
for all the great years kobe has had, to even reach 30 points average for career he would have to average 36 his last seasons coming. Not going to happen. In an era that is wayyyy softer than mid 80's to 98.
Bigturns33 2 months ago
@uberathlete Kobe is the closest thing to jordan but the closest doesnt even come tha close to jordan overall Jordan is the best P4P unguardable fadeaway that only kobe could master
fredizzle23 1 month ago
@artuurslv sorry but kobe will never pass kobe
MrPlantcity813 10 months ago
@artuurslv lol...yeah, that game is actually a good way to see how much of a better player he is than everyone else...it shows how the court was really a playground for him...and his dunks on the game are far more amazing than anyone elses...same goes for real life!
jkblackburn1911 9 months ago
3:40 Oh My .. The Greatest !
molasda 1 year ago
great video!
jimmychuang 1 year ago
Kobe's fade is sexier
mambaKB24mvp 1 year ago
@mambaKB24mvp i agree and your gay
guitar2stringer 1 year ago
First song is "Fade Away" by 12 Stones.
And Jordan is the most talented basketball player to ever live.
Period.
loboapo28 1 year ago
@loboapo28 no he aint. Kobe has more skill ask phill jackson and every analyst. Kobe is the best perimeter and mid range player ever. just caus eMJ was "first" doesnt make Kobe worse. Kobe is a better ballhandler, scorer, tough shot maker (easily the best ever at tought shots) footwork, and fundamentals. MJ was a better driver, better inside period, better defender. now thats all true. u cant take away from Kobe cause he played with fat fuck shaq. Kobe is the most skilled player ever.
mambaKB24mvp 1 year ago
12 3pt in a game doesnt make him a great 3 pt shooter. Just check his 3pt%, not qualify for a 3pt shooter.
81 pts in a game doesnt make him the best outside scorer. Can he make another 50pt game in playoffs. No way.
Better dribble? Maybe, but MJ's better to drive.
Footwork, I dont care how fency he is, he mostly can lose defender(thats why he make tough shot mostly)
Making tough shot? MJ clean screen, and make tough shot, too, thats why MJ is more effective scorer
jimmychuang 1 year ago
Jordan's fadeaway game was a work of art. Very beautiful and effortless. He made it look so natural and easy. Players like Kobe, Wade and even Melo have good fadeaway shots but when they do it it doesnt look as natural as the way Jordan made it look. Its as if they try so hard to make their fadeaway shot look amazing. And lets not get into the Jordan/Kobe debate. Jordan is the G.O.A.T. Jordan's stats, achievements and style of play speak for itself. Not to mention Kobes had more help around him
driv3nfromwithin1 1 year ago 20
@driv3nfromwithin1 your right pippen and rodman arn't any help
donaldduckling53 6 months ago
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@driv3nfromwithin1 your right pippen and rodman arn't any help jackass
donaldduckling53 6 months ago
OK guys, We will never know who's better, KOBE or JORDAN?!!! Who gives a fuck about the stats because they've never really played against each other. Who knows what each player is capable of doing, KOBE might be an unstoppable player back in JORDAN's era or JORDAN might be an unstoppable player in KOBE's era. Who knows, both might suck in each player's era. All I have to say is stop comparing the both. JORDAN will always be JORDAN and KOBE will always be KOBE.
sactownism 1 year ago
@sactownism uhm they did play against each other when mj was 40 and still balling whereas kobe was in his prime. based on what mj did at that time i know he would kill in todays era. phil jackson even said mj would average 45 a game in todays era which says alot. i can't say the same about kobe in mj's era.. maybe in his very prime he would be considered a top player but seriously his choices and shooting sucks
crayrayc 1 year ago
I think kobe deserves a little more credit than that. Theres noone back then that should even be considered better besides jordan. Magic could be in the convo but i dont think hes as good as either of them
raggy8292 1 year ago
@raggy8292 Magic win in other way, he is not better one on one player than MJ, Kobe, but it doesn't mean he is not as good as them.
jimmychuang 1 year ago
MJ is oviously waaaaay better than kobe... you can even look up the stats and u see that.. and the defense in the 90s was way tougher than today's defense.. .there are no real centers nowadays and the referees make superstars untouchable...
peppers1616 1 year ago
a couple of those shots were pullup jumpers not fadeaways
alfeopunk 1 year ago
@alfeopunk You can fade away on a pull up jumper....
SogeKingXXIII 1 year ago
jordan's fadeaway looks effortless, and he always aim for the shot to go in, instead of just avoiding the block like most players do.
lotusbreaker 1 year ago
GMon3y dude, I gained past 15 inches on my leap by finishing the workout at (50 inch vertical [dot] com). now being able to dunk is nothing I have to be anxious about in basketball finally, haha
MJ FADEAWAY *MIX zokazoxuuaihqhavxqmj kcnqtzgfxdbt #GMon3y
gicaasdasf23423221 1 year ago
comparing anyone to MJ is an insult . MJ is great the rest are just good imitations.
rob23molina 1 year ago
@rob23molina itd not indult...i will take what chris webber calls it when comparing jordan to kobe..
" ITS SACRILEGE "
LOLZ
zaza09 1 year ago
@zaza09 Why would any fool compare MJ to kobe? That's like comparing steel to aluminum. kobe is very good but MJ is great.
rob23molina 1 year ago
@rob23molina haha...nice one bro....love your comparison ;p
zaza09 1 year ago
@rob23molina jordan had hops on KOBE thats about all i see!!!!!! bummer you old farts from the 80s are so in love with that prick mike
figmentofmyimag24 1 year ago
@figmentofmyimag24 That's ur best response no wonder your all over kobe's nuggets ur 2 easy 2 impress. It's easy 2 dismiss these claims when u actually see MJ in action & compare (which is not possible) it 2 kobe's & see that kobe is good but not at MJ's level. MJ took his place in the nba he never rode anyone's coattail & was the main man on his team NEVER second to anyone & did it with class something a little snot like u will never attain. Another thing dumb ass he dominated in the 90's too.
rob23molina 1 year ago
@rob23molina one word (evolution) while the game has evolved from the 90s to today so have the players. and when you say MJ was on no ones coattail, thats disrespecting Dr. J. Jordan always had Pippen who is now in the top 50 Greatest Players ever. kinda convenient right>and what proves the 90s were more dominant? there are more elaborate ZONE defenses these days that were never seen in the Jordan era. so SHHHHHHHHHH!!!
figmentofmyimag24 1 year ago
@figmentofmyimag24 WTF does dr j have to do with this. Yes MJ had pippen but MJ made pippen kobe didn't make shaq cuz he was the team. Get your shit right and try and stay on the subject. It wouldn't matter what defenses you through at MJ he defeated them as he would today but you elude to the fact that it was more physical nowadays it isn't even close. You can cry & bitch all you want but all your ranting is just opinion based on WHAT not a damn thang.
rob23molina 1 year ago
lets just say that kobe and michael are one of the best players to ever play in the nba
rickisslick1 1 year ago
dude, crazy plays. GMon3y I especially like the beginning =) Can you believe that I finally worked hard enough to start dunking! I just used the a real workout course at "50inch vertical (dot) com" and managed it in only 2 months!
MJ FADEAWAY *MIX cclolfk evmlofzpbfsvla #GMon3y
Jackie9113 1 year ago
GMon3y, this video reminds me of why I love basketball, along with all the bloopers. If you can't dunk yet, you GOTTA start training. I definitely recommend you to try the one I'm using - "50inch vertical (dot) com" - I m 5 7 and I can dunk!
Wumoy89 1 year ago
Look at some of the defenders. They can't even contest MJ's sot cuz they don't know where he's gonna turn and because he uses that head fake so effectively.
uberathlete 1 year ago
no one can own mj's fade away
saadownz 1 year ago
thats why he is the best
thebigcauna 1 year ago
I am surprise not a lot of today's player tries to learn this unguardable move, I saw Kobe and KG does it sometimes. But watching the master do it is just beautiful.
dajeejee 1 year ago
@dajeejee well it's partly because players today don't even have good midrange shots. It's also because it takes a lot of energy to actually pull it off.
uberathlete 1 year ago
@dajeejee I think guys like Kobe don't want to learn this move because they don't want to copy the G.O.A.T. Kobe already deals with Haters saying that he's trying to be Jordan. Imagine Kobe doing this move at all times like MJ. He has all the ability but he works on a lot of other moves. This is a great point though
veldugo1 1 year ago
MJ had the sweetest post-footwork (next to the Dream).
The timing of it could throw almost any defender off. If it was anybody around his size, they looked like a little shooting guard trying to guard a center.
at1212b 1 year ago
Ask Kobe if he thinks he's better than MJ, for all you people having this silly argument. In response to the village idiot Stephen A. Smith, I quote him: "Stop comparing me to him, he's the greatest to ever play the game. Let me be me." I mean really, I thought Jordan being the best ever was one of the things that you don't argue about in sports anymore.
estalling 1 year ago 2
MJ has the best fadeaway in the history of the game. And he is the best perimeter post player as well.
uberathlete 1 year ago
mj is great but i don't like his fadeaways i think kobe has the best fadeaway
oliverrainman 1 year ago
@oliverrainman I disagree. MJ has the best fadeaway in the history of the game, and inifinitely more efficient than Kobe's. Kobe's fade is a cheap imitation.
uberathlete 1 year ago
@uberathlete am not taling about making them am talking about how it looks just look at mj's fadeaway it looks like its stiff and look at kobe's it's different it does not look stiff get what am saying
oliverrainman 1 year ago
@oliverrainman That's a pointless assessment. THe argument is about effectiveness, not how attractive the shot looks. Do you really watch basketball, because that sound's like a chick's perspective.
estalling 1 year ago
@estalling i have tried many fadeaways in my life after seeing mj and kobe i like kobe's fadeaway cause it's comfortable u come up right and u land right the one mj' take's is uncomfortable just look at how they do it and try one of them
oliverrainman 1 year ago
@oliverrainman just do ur own fadeawway..its a fadeaway ...its not their OWN move..vince carter has 1 , lebron james has 1, carmelo has 1, pierce has one, evrybody does it, HOW THEIR COMFORTABLE DOING IT
ukpongbball 1 year ago
@oliverrainman That could explain why MJ's was far more effective against defenders Than Kobe's
coollookingidiots 1 year ago
@oliverrainman Hahah, you're kidding right. 1st of, you can't even bump the shooter like before, he has pretty bad post moves, and shoots like 30% when he shoots the fadeway.
Also notice, he doesn't do it as much anymore? Bc he really isnt that good on it, and just relied on physical talent (also, studying MJ's moves very very closely helps too).
He also does it with the worst timing, does out of the flow of the offense, and esp in the playoffs, it is not a wise shot to take at all.
at1212b 1 year ago
kobe who??
Remzi101 1 year ago
maximized the triple threat position. less effort, less energy more mind but still skill involved. MJ "the MAN!"
johmbo23010502 1 year ago
Reggie Miller has the best fade away.
epics7 1 year ago
mj the best!!
lytee 1 year ago
this music is mega gayness, but those fadeaways are nice
ericsnowsucks 1 year ago
The last two are definitely the best
clayg80 1 year ago
LeBron is better than Kobe imo, but we will see through the years. Shame on that rules change, i would like to see him play against hard defenses like this ones against MJ.
marianogesteira 1 year ago
@marianogesteira LeBron is better than Kobe in the sense that he is bigger/stronger, but LBJ will never have Kobe's jump shot/fadeaway
weezerbh 1 year ago
at 3:53 is that a travel? if u slow it down, his pivot foot lifts off the ground before his back foot, technically a travel, yes or no? just wondering because i'm trying to practice the fade away and when i spin that way it's hard to be effective without truly traveling. please advise.
evek2345 1 year ago
No, it's not travel. You can lift the pivot foot but it can't touch the floor again until the ball is released.
TheFelix187 1 year ago
@TheFelix187 corect, but here he is switching pivot foots, no?
evek2345 1 year ago
This is the definition of traveling:
After coming to a stop and establishing the pivot foot: a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the playing court, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal. b. The pivot foot shall not be lifted before the ball is released to start a dribble.
TheFelix187 1 year ago
@evek2345 yeah, he traveled. He got away with it because he's Jordan and did it really fast. In that time you could, lebron's unstoppable 'hop-step' made it so that you couldn't get away with moving both feet.
estalling 1 year ago
and pls when u compare kobe and mj rmb that mj had to deal with handchecking, more physical defenders and basically a tougher era.
rumrumtanneo 2 years ago
MJ is the biggest beast he will get at bit chance of hitting his fades and the weird thing is Michael didn't make it into his high school sport team and now he was NBA BEAST!
DuffmanAussie 2 years ago
i love how at 1:36, Michael still tries to put himself in a position to pass the ball, always giving himself an option to. Kobe always put himself in bad situations and gets praised for it. No contest, MJ GOAT
SIHIAIDIY 2 years ago
lol right ur one year older then me u dident see jordan play lol u talk like u do cause everytime someone says something about who the best is u get all offensive and pull the oh well u have never seen him play card when actually ur a yr older then me dip shit lol like u did? Hate to love me or love to hate me when i say this KOBE BRYANT IS BETTER sorry to burst ur little mj bubble but take away stats take away rings as a BASKETBALL PLAYERS kobe bean bryant is better than michael idk Jordan
RTR9 2 years ago
what kind of shit argument is this?
paraphrase:
"take away stats, take away rings and Kobe is better"
Thats the dumbest shit i've heard on youtube in a long while LMFAO
Hawkhunter07 2 years ago 2
hahaha...@RTR9
how can you compare without Stats..haha....
zaza09 2 years ago
nba is now easier than the nba during that era...look now, superstars are almost untouchable,nba is protecting them from harm by what,,1st removing the def. 3 second rule, and 2nd removing the handcheck..
the slightest touch..oops...even a breath on them would cause you a foul....
zaza09 2 years ago 14
@zaza09
nba turned gay.. 90's were the days
larry89 1 year ago 21
@larry89 but you still watch dont you lol
RTR9 1 year ago
@RTR9
yeah lmfao so sad so sad..
larry89 1 year ago
@larry89 lol its cool man its not that bad but i understand man lol the 90s was the shit....................and so were the nikes hahaha
RTR9 1 year ago
@larry89 the old days are coming back i tell you
stickybac3712 9 months ago
@larry89 the old days are coming back i tell you though the 90s were still better...
stickybac3712 9 months ago
@zaza09 All true. Defenses today are a little more complex than they were back then. plus you can double team when the player doesnt have the ball where as you couldn't in MJ's era. Not that any of that makes a difference, MJ would dominate any era.
jedipudu 1 year ago
@jedipudu Last sentence is absolutely correct.
rob23molina 1 year ago
@zaza09 look at all the non calls kobe doesn't get. he was checked pretty hard when they beat the Thunder in OKC a couple weeks back. don't tell me shit was tougher back in the day because your idol mj played in that era dumb fuck
reneperezz 11 months ago
@reneperezz non calls now and non calls back then...players get that but still.......that era is phisically tougher
zaza09 11 months ago
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@reneperezz non calls now and non calls back then...players get that but still.......that era is physically tougher
zaza09 11 months ago
@reneperezz the truth is after NBA changed the handcheck rules, the league avg. eFG% keeps going up. From 2004 to 2008. In 2008, the league's eFG% was the highest in 25 years, and 2009-10 even higher than 2008.
jimmychuang 9 months ago
@jimmychuang and the defensive 3s rule along with that
marianogesteira 9 months ago
@RTR9 taking away both things even increases the HUGE gap between MJ and Kobe.
MJ played until 40, kobe is only 31, so his stat difference will increase even more throug the years.
In adition, rules are diferent now: no handchecking, def. 3 secs (open lanes) so scoring is easyer.
Even with those "handicaps" MJ had better stats on everything (but 3p FGS in reg season, and some other)
marianogesteira 1 year ago
Hand checking was added when Jordan played and the game was easier when that came in. A lot of rules were added due to Jordan. I remember this during his prime before his first retirement.
epics7 1 year ago
@epics7 Hand checking makes the game HARDER for offensive players, not easier. Jordan GoAT
utfanatic2000 1 year ago
Does anyone actually KNOW why MJ's fadeaway was so godly? Because of his jumping ability, his jump in a fadeaway was higher then others could jump VERTICAL.
Nagidar23 2 years ago
it wasn't mainly because of his jumping ability that made his fadeaway so deadly, it has to do with his ability to feel which way his defender is forcing him towards, his incredibly strong body for a guard, and a bunch of other things like as you said leaping ability/experience/concentration etc
Hawkhunter07 2 years ago
Think about this for a second, take out his jumping ability and leave everything else in, most of MJ's fadeaway's were with defenders in his face (Hence the reason for the fadeaway), without that jumping ability, that fadeaway would be NO WHERE as effective, all the great fadeaway jumper players had a great jumping ability. It gives the player a fairly clear view of the basket.
Nagidar23 2 years ago
well yes jumping higher does give you a better advantage for your fadeaway, but just remember MJ in his wizards days still had a great fadeaway despite having little jumping ability left compared to the young athletes, so i'd say other things play a pretty big role too
Hawkhunter07 2 years ago
@Hawkhunter07 ok so yao ming wouldn't get as much rebound if he wasn't tall so you're going to blame his height.
Everyone one have their own physical quality
YouSeeBc 2 years ago
wtf are you talking about?
do you even know what the fuck i'm even arguing about? since when did i blame anyone's height or ne shit like that? you are not making sense at all and bringing in some random shit like that
fucking idiots like you piss me off
I was responding to the guy that said MJ's jumping ability is what made his fadeaway great, and i dispute that
know what you're fucking talking about before responding with some stupid shit,
Hawkhunter07 2 years ago
I said whether MJ's fadeaway would've been pretty good/effective regardless of whether he had inhuman vertical leap or not which is demonstrated by his wizards year
so what the fuck are you talking about with that yao ming rebound shit?
SERIOUSLY just fucking learn reading comprehension, it can help you get far in life and not sound like a dumbass like you are now u dumbfuck
Hawkhunter07 2 years ago
Anyone who consider just comparing Kobe to MJ haven't seen MJ career.
MJ is undoubtedly the one and only.
pasteldeciruelas 2 years ago
the song is: 12 stones - fade away
javiermegadeth 2 years ago
Jordans fadeaway was so incredible, that even at 40 years old with most of his athletisism gone, the "super athletic Kobe stoppers" of the league still couldnt stop Mike in the post.
saturndual32 2 years ago 2
@RTR9 shut up! you can only say kobe is better because u did'nt watched MJ played.. you FOOL!
JohnLesterB 2 years ago
really u watched jordan play on year more then i did moron lol ur 21 dip shit oh yeah cause u got to see him play lol loser
RTR9 2 years ago
The song is ok, but the quality of the video does a disservice to Jordan's fade away. I guess it was a compilation of other youtube videos. Re encoded the re encoded then re encoded again,
inlovewithi 2 years ago
My bad, not a troll. Just a 9 year old faggot.
det916 2 years ago
troll
det916 2 years ago
go back to bagging groceries, stark. you can't hang you little bitch. none of these niggers can hang. why do they even bother?.. yeah the really just need to rename this move to the J-away.
westmeat 2 years ago
what is that song? please tell me!
shingsky100 2 years ago
MY OPINION so dont start talking shit to me on the internet lol shows u how lame u are but i think Kobe's Fade is way more nastier then jordans watch kobe fade over lebron OMGGGGGGG and i think kobe is better perioooooooooood. and alot of people have never seen jordan play they just say hes the best because other people say it.
RTR9 2 years ago
@RTR9 go back to licking jordan's ball sweat. you fail at life. what a fucking fool.
westmeat 2 years ago
well, not to say that you are wrong, but the fact that the list of things MJ had accomplished in his career makes him a freak of nature, and seeing how he had done it would just blow you away regardless if you say he's the best or not
And as of today. kobe is also dropping other peoples' jaws as well lol
sunike07 2 years ago
how could you make a Michael Jordan video with this type os bullshit music?
Airwin13 2 years ago 4
WTF is up with the song in this vid
TrY2LieAgain 2 years ago 2
1:02 you can see how mj blocks body's opponent with the leg that is behind
el7leinad 2 years ago
this is where kobe's fadeaway shot came from.
rohanpogi 2 years ago 2
its jsut hard to imagine how hard all of these shots are.i mean i played high school basketball and the 3 is obviously closer but mj is shooting highschool 3 fadeawys all day long and mj is just wet wet all day from anywhere on the floor.the difficulty can only be realized by true basketball fans and yet he makes it look like hes shooting free throws but with 3 ppl in his face. MJ IS THE GREATEST NO DOUBT. im a kobe fan cuz hes the closest thing my generation has to MJ
bighead89 2 years ago
What about named as 'J-away' ?
BrisbaneStriker 2 years ago
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music sucks ass.
CJThaSavage 2 years ago
I live in LA of course im a laker fan, but I have to admit that Jordan if better than Kobe, or anyone for that matter. the main reason is his mind is so unwavering, and his mind gets tougher as the competition gets tougher, his skills, and physically complement his mind. Also to compare him to kobe, first of all jordan is just naturally stronger than kobe,kobe can work out all he wants but jordan is always gonna be stronger therefore he can explode stronger and push away his opponents stronger
2369drew 2 years ago 6
jordan only had pippen to win 6 rings jordan didnt have much of a starting 5 denis was good but others arent as good as kobes 5., kobe was a side kick to shaq in his first 3 rings and kobe needed gasol, bynum, ariza, fisher (all these good players) to win a ring so stfu.
snoopydoopy12 2 years ago
whats the song? i konw its fade away but i need artist
BadassRuler 2 years ago