bj..this is one of your old classmates. I'm glad to see that you're still keeping the tradition alive..Tell everyone i said hey. One love and much respect. Your friend and brother for life Bigman
Belief is relative. truth is the confirmation of relationships relative and directly established.
Belief in itself provides great Good and Bad but a persons belief doesn't require confirmation always.
Whats Martial is practical. And not merely philosophical theories unconfirmed and that is the belief and value in Martial lineages that are confirmed by our modern challenges and practice.
I'm glad to see you are open minded and your growth is worthy of acknowledgement :D
Respect to All arts and to all who try to Improve themselves on any level. Progress can be painful but also fun if your sincere thats why many people take up martial arts for the sincerity of strengthening themselves. No one here is an Martial Artist. But there are many practitioners.
MMA people respect to what you do but there is a lacking respect for other arts amongst you and vice versa. You never know when you'll need what you never had the opportunity to gain from being stubborn. I know because the same happened to me when I was a kid LOL :)
What is Modern is dependant on the revelations of Tradition. This is the same as The Elder and The Youth. Both are necessary neither is useless just a co dependance Yin and Yang
UFC has limitation Sanshou has its set limitations but at the same time go fight in a bar or a street where u can publicly disgrace yourself and see the difference between an arena and survival. In fact go to a poor country and get beat down survival means something different to the dog or person thats hungrier. TECHNIQUE or TACTIC. TRADITION HONORS BOTH AND IS LIMITED TO BOTH DEPENDING ON WHOS TRADITIONAL PRACTICE. UFC IS BECOMING A TRADITION OF ITS OWN.
If the truth is told you only have two kinds of fighters and they are like two kinds of dogs. A doverman and a Pitt. which dogs have the opportunity to fight four other dogs??? research the tactics of each dog and you'll know what I am talking about.
One thing is for sure every dog has its day . Tai chi teaches us that anything to the extreme is limited and if one decides to limit their practice to a few techniques they have to learn from experience(in fighting or sparring)
jrqellin for once i agree with u and we have a meeting of the mindz ; )
to all of the fanatics commenting on the video
Go out there and do better if you pocess the ability. I will not argue with success. I respect all forms of martial arts. Goood Martial arts do not have race,sex, or religious , or sexual preference qualifications. So many of you are trying too hard to duplicate arguments you heard that came from one mans ego to another. The style Fist (chuan) makes no difference
Jowga is alot more than you think..but if its not for you then you should go on........ but this system is does well for the right person you have to put time in this art to be effective its meant for protection and real life situations not the ring....if you watch cung le in some of his fights in Sanshou, and some of his MMA bouts you will see a small dose of what we use......it is more well rounded than most people realize so its kinda goog that not many really understand it........
I used to train in the jow ga system, off and on. I felt like I was just wasting my time learning useless forms all the time. Forms look awesome and everything but it requires a lot of energy and time to learn them. And the only time that they come in handy is at the occasional tournament or if you wanna make a kickass demo or sumthin and put it on youtube just to showoff.
you have to be dedicated for it to work... get the concept down then apply it to your personality.........once again its is not meant for the ring .....crane, tiger, our weapons and kicking they work trust me ive been doing this four about five years...if you we can further ...god bless
Nah homie you got it all wrong see that's why real deal kungfu is'nt in the UFC LMFAO because it does work, you put a bonafide conditioned gungfu sifu in the ring with a "UFC" fighter that fight will last 3 seconds with the quote and quote MMA fighter laid the fuck out, and what do you mean more well rounded, you gotta understand that kungfu is the mother of martial arts, so people who train kungfu the way it's supposed to trained they won't even be allowed in the ring with MMA fighters loll!!
UFC has rules... Kung Fu does not have rules... One purpose is for self defense BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY... Where do you think your UFC fighting techniques come from? ALL of them... Check your history on your art first...
OK....take a ufc fighter and tell him he doesnt have to abide by any rules! He just became that much more dangerous! Kung fu isnt better because it doesnt have any rules! You dont need a sifu to teach you how to kick someone in the balls, thats desperation not skill! And as far as ufc techniques who cares where they came from? Whats important is that mma fighters got rid of all the useless techiniques, like tiger claws and cranes and only used the ones that work in real situations!
Do you know the difference between criticism and critique? Is it based on your experience or are you subjective? Where have you been in your experience?
Are you merely logical without a cause?
Or do you poccess the knowledge from experience like the one you are judging to have an informed opinion??
No one on this forum will say Jow ga is outdated or atleast hasn't said it yet anymore the you'll openly admit struggles with your own insecurities(everyone has them) Please bring your attention to sec 3:13.
"Thats where everyone should say I'm glad it wasn't me"
As far as the jow Ga systems is concerned I CLEARLY SEE a Northern kick , not a muay thai kick that concluded the end negotiations of that conflict.
who can really argue with success??? Once a fighter trains the kungfu it becomes there own. So the Art of Kungfu is a growing organism a lifestyle not a blind tradition one must keep.
If a system fails to adjust naturally to changes(example opponents and environmental factors) the system could be classified as outdated.
Truth is relative. Truth for me may not be truth for you. When someone states that their opinion is the ultimate truth, they openly declare how small minded they really are! For me to say that Jow ga is not a complete system based on my limited experience, was in retrospect, IGNORANT!!!! I have sinced opened my mind, and in doing so have acquired enough humility to admit that i was wrong! Whatever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind!
Philosophy is Not an irrefutable Law. Logic is merely an expression of what is law (knowledge) In its raw form but Logic by itself is dependent on knowledge.
A fighter trains a system for the advantage of the systems method. But if the fighter doesn't have to use everything the system has to offer to succeed good. but just a few moves can be sufficient.
One cannot be sufficient unless one is efficient .
wow, I've seen this video a few times but I just realized it's BJ. I fought him once when I first started Jow Ga, and got tramppled, of coarse. Good luck to him, because he's been a great influence on me.
to all the haters,bj trains very hard and he is also a very good brother how dare you say anything disrespectful about him,how many fights have you won? IAM tired of you computer gangsters talking out of your --- when the only rank you hold is pink and if you played football you guarded the water and tackled anyone who came next to the bench and your mother is most likely more man then your father.hater!!!!!
First and foremost I would like to thank abishaiyoung for reaching out to me and asking about my intentions from my reply on this video. He now has a greater understanding of what point I was saying and seems to agree with me. (Correct me if I am wrong Abishai.) As for THIS character, If you read what I wrote, or understood Jow Ga philosophy, you would see that I said nothing disrespectful about BJ. By your response, it seems like philosophy is something that is above your level.
Computer gangster? Are you serious? And you are 47 years old responding in this childish manner? I would expect this from someone who was on this earth less than 18 years, not 47. Respect and thanks to all who have reached out to myself and/or my Sifu in a respectful manner concerning this. BJ our prayers are with you and look forward to your safe return from overseas. All childish comments on this page do a great disservice to yourself, your style and your instructor. Whoever you are...
Sanda/san shou and Jow ga kung fu are 2 different styles of fighting one is sports Sanshou(pretty much kickboxing with Chinese wrestling throws)Jow isnt a sport so why is this clip titled jow ga fighter when it has nothing to do with this clip?
The fighter is a jow ga student who has trained in the system for many years. He is my si hing. Most fighters represent their schools AND styles in Sanshou. For example, you don't separate Tat Mau Wong from Choy Lee Fut when he fought full contact.This clip is no different. No disrespect, but I didn't think such an explanation would be necessary.
The Richmond Virginia Jow Ga School would like to thank you for your concerns and anyone else who wishes one of our own much success in the up coming event. Those of you who have had the success of winning higher level competitions such as the USA Team Trials understand the necessary adjustments needed to defeat some fighters. The 3 systems that make up Jow Ga Kung Fu prove adjustments have to made. - Sifu Charles Middleton
We are grateful for the emails we have recieved from the United States, China and Hong Kong supporting Captain Keith Brown of the United States Army in his up coming competition. When one of us does good, we all do good. - Sifu Charles Middleton
Will, I've met you at tournaments, and down at Va. Beach... And I know you've met BJ (the one in the video) and know he is not only superb in forms, but also is an accomplished fighter. I don't understand why all the put downs?
Wow, LT!! That was a great fight! Please send me more, I have subsribed to You Tube just to see your matches, so don't let me down. I can support you thorugh here, if I can't make the matches! - JBowers
Outstanding BJ! I wondered about the outcome and I was pleased to find out you were successful. You're at the level I hope to be at soon. Hopefully when I get the opportunity to fight Sanshou, I'll be ready and do just as well as you have. Keep up the good work. Your school is behind you 100%!! Haha, the hook kick was like nyquil!! Nighty night. :-)
bj..this is one of your old classmates. I'm glad to see that you're still keeping the tradition alive..Tell everyone i said hey. One love and much respect. Your friend and brother for life Bigman
Animegirllover1996 6 months ago
I didn't see any jow ga not even a tiger tail hop or flower fist parries . But the guy is still a good sanda fighter. Good job man!
georgeee1 7 months ago
this is REAL jow ga in a fight ! WOOT !!
MechPhantom 1 year ago
non of this is jow ga
Joelw2230 1 year ago
@Joelw2230
Totally right. This is only Kick-Boxing.
centurio81 1 year ago
this looks like kick boxing
NgJit 1 year ago
really enjoyed watching this. Both fighters were awesome! Inspiration to everyone :)
jadefist2000 1 year ago
Thats My Older Bro he's undefeated
DeeKBrown11 1 year ago
Belief is relative. truth is the confirmation of relationships relative and directly established.
Belief in itself provides great Good and Bad but a persons belief doesn't require confirmation always.
Whats Martial is practical. And not merely philosophical theories unconfirmed and that is the belief and value in Martial lineages that are confirmed by our modern challenges and practice.
I'm glad to see you are open minded and your growth is worthy of acknowledgement :D
Salutations of respect
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
MMA is an ancient art. This is how many styles came into being.
Combat in itself is not out dated. As long as theirs conflict amongst human beings. The Best most Become Better.
Ali's Ropeadope was inovative against Foreman Awesome tactic.
NO ONE IS THE BEST UNTIL YOU FIGHT EVERYONE.
Combat begins with the mastery and dominance of other but ENDs with the dominance of self.
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
------------------------TO ALL
Respect to All arts and to all who try to Improve themselves on any level. Progress can be painful but also fun if your sincere thats why many people take up martial arts for the sincerity of strengthening themselves. No one here is an Martial Artist. But there are many practitioners.
Martial= Combative Lethal
Artist= one who is perfected their skill
The language of the Artist is very different.
Do you see the art in others?
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
MMA people respect to what you do but there is a lacking respect for other arts amongst you and vice versa. You never know when you'll need what you never had the opportunity to gain from being stubborn. I know because the same happened to me when I was a kid LOL :)
Keep an open mind Open your
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
I feel you on that bro!! Speak the peace
mfeld418 2 years ago
What is Modern is dependant on the revelations of Tradition. This is the same as The Elder and The Youth. Both are necessary neither is useless just a co dependance Yin and Yang
Open your eyes.... This is the kungfu salutation.
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
UFC has limitation Sanshou has its set limitations but at the same time go fight in a bar or a street where u can publicly disgrace yourself and see the difference between an arena and survival. In fact go to a poor country and get beat down survival means something different to the dog or person thats hungrier. TECHNIQUE or TACTIC. TRADITION HONORS BOTH AND IS LIMITED TO BOTH DEPENDING ON WHOS TRADITIONAL PRACTICE. UFC IS BECOMING A TRADITION OF ITS OWN.
TRADITION GIVES BIRTH TO MODERN
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
If the truth is told you only have two kinds of fighters and they are like two kinds of dogs. A doverman and a Pitt. which dogs have the opportunity to fight four other dogs??? research the tactics of each dog and you'll know what I am talking about.
One thing is for sure every dog has its day . Tai chi teaches us that anything to the extreme is limited and if one decides to limit their practice to a few techniques they have to learn from experience(in fighting or sparring)
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
jrqellin for once i agree with u and we have a meeting of the mindz ; )
to all of the fanatics commenting on the video
Go out there and do better if you pocess the ability. I will not argue with success. I respect all forms of martial arts. Goood Martial arts do not have race,sex, or religious , or sexual preference qualifications. So many of you are trying too hard to duplicate arguments you heard that came from one mans ego to another. The style Fist (chuan) makes no difference
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
This is where i go to martial arts at haha!
xxthebrokenxxx 2 years ago
Jowga is alot more than you think..but if its not for you then you should go on........ but this system is does well for the right person you have to put time in this art to be effective its meant for protection and real life situations not the ring....if you watch cung le in some of his fights in Sanshou, and some of his MMA bouts you will see a small dose of what we use......it is more well rounded than most people realize so its kinda goog that not many really understand it........
jowga 2 years ago 4
Yeah you right man REAL Jowga is fuckin serious brutality at it's finest, it's a real deal complete system not meant for playing around!!!
mfeld418 2 years ago
I used to train in the jow ga system, off and on. I felt like I was just wasting my time learning useless forms all the time. Forms look awesome and everything but it requires a lot of energy and time to learn them. And the only time that they come in handy is at the occasional tournament or if you wanna make a kickass demo or sumthin and put it on youtube just to showoff.
cagebeast 3 years ago
you have to be dedicated for it to work... get the concept down then apply it to your personality.........once again its is not meant for the ring .....crane, tiger, our weapons and kicking they work trust me ive been doing this four about five years...if you we can further ...god bless
jowga 2 years ago
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cagebeast 3 years ago
Nah homie you got it all wrong see that's why real deal kungfu is'nt in the UFC LMFAO because it does work, you put a bonafide conditioned gungfu sifu in the ring with a "UFC" fighter that fight will last 3 seconds with the quote and quote MMA fighter laid the fuck out, and what do you mean more well rounded, you gotta understand that kungfu is the mother of martial arts, so people who train kungfu the way it's supposed to trained they won't even be allowed in the ring with MMA fighters loll!!
mfeld418 2 years ago
UFC has rules... Kung Fu does not have rules... One purpose is for self defense BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY... Where do you think your UFC fighting techniques come from? ALL of them... Check your history on your art first...
jrwellin 2 years ago
OK....take a ufc fighter and tell him he doesnt have to abide by any rules! He just became that much more dangerous! Kung fu isnt better because it doesnt have any rules! You dont need a sifu to teach you how to kick someone in the balls, thats desperation not skill! And as far as ufc techniques who cares where they came from? Whats important is that mma fighters got rid of all the useless techiniques, like tiger claws and cranes and only used the ones that work in real situations!
cagebeast 2 years ago
And I could be wrong but I dont think that Muay thai, boxing, greco roman wrestiling or brazilian jiu jitzu evolved from kung fu.
cagebeast 2 years ago
Notes for All
Mu-Ying and Yow-Ying
The tools for an inner and outer Kungfu(skill from Effort) House
JowGaFuRy 3 years ago
My question to the educated mindz of this forum
When does technique bridge into the realms of Tactic??
Does it ever??
Or does tactic need technique to conclude strategy like the carpenter needs tools?
The plan may be to build a house or win a fight but without the tools (technique) all you have is intention without direction.
Once that house is built who can dispute that house exist.
"A fighter success based on his training experience in a system he's made his house"
JowGaFuRy 3 years ago
So to all who have seen and commented,
I have questions?
Do you know the difference between criticism and critique? Is it based on your experience or are you subjective? Where have you been in your experience?
Are you merely logical without a cause?
Or do you poccess the knowledge from experience like the one you are judging to have an informed opinion??
JowGaFuRy 3 years ago
Keep preachin nice words.......
jowga 2 years ago
No one on this forum will say Jow ga is outdated or atleast hasn't said it yet anymore the you'll openly admit struggles with your own insecurities(everyone has them) Please bring your attention to sec 3:13.
"Thats where everyone should say I'm glad it wasn't me"
As far as the jow Ga systems is concerned I CLEARLY SEE a Northern kick , not a muay thai kick that concluded the end negotiations of that conflict.
JowGaFuRy 3 years ago
who can really argue with success??? Once a fighter trains the kungfu it becomes there own. So the Art of Kungfu is a growing organism a lifestyle not a blind tradition one must keep.
If a system fails to adjust naturally to changes(example opponents and environmental factors) the system could be classified as outdated.
JowGaFuRy 3 years ago
your system needs a lot of adjustments because its definitely outdated.
cagebeast 3 years ago
Explain how Jow Ga is outdated what is it missing?????
JowGaFuRy 2 years ago
Jow Gar is far from outdated lol i love it
Joelw2230 2 years ago
Truth is relative. Truth for me may not be truth for you. When someone states that their opinion is the ultimate truth, they openly declare how small minded they really are! For me to say that Jow ga is not a complete system based on my limited experience, was in retrospect, IGNORANT!!!! I have sinced opened my mind, and in doing so have acquired enough humility to admit that i was wrong! Whatever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind!
cagebeast 2 years ago
Philosophy is Not an irrefutable Law. Logic is merely an expression of what is law (knowledge) In its raw form but Logic by itself is dependent on knowledge.
A fighter trains a system for the advantage of the systems method. But if the fighter doesn't have to use everything the system has to offer to succeed good. but just a few moves can be sufficient.
One cannot be sufficient unless one is efficient .
JowGaFuRy 3 years ago
wow, I've seen this video a few times but I just realized it's BJ. I fought him once when I first started Jow Ga, and got tramppled, of coarse. Good luck to him, because he's been a great influence on me.
sportsfan1103 3 years ago
to haters get a job modeling coffins if you want to be seen
mad1money 3 years ago
to all the haters,bj trains very hard and he is also a very good brother how dare you say anything disrespectful about him,how many fights have you won? IAM tired of you computer gangsters talking out of your --- when the only rank you hold is pink and if you played football you guarded the water and tackled anyone who came next to the bench and your mother is most likely more man then your father.hater!!!!!
mad1money 3 years ago
First and foremost I would like to thank abishaiyoung for reaching out to me and asking about my intentions from my reply on this video. He now has a greater understanding of what point I was saying and seems to agree with me. (Correct me if I am wrong Abishai.) As for THIS character, If you read what I wrote, or understood Jow Ga philosophy, you would see that I said nothing disrespectful about BJ. By your response, it seems like philosophy is something that is above your level.
jrwellin 3 years ago
Computer gangster? Are you serious? And you are 47 years old responding in this childish manner? I would expect this from someone who was on this earth less than 18 years, not 47. Respect and thanks to all who have reached out to myself and/or my Sifu in a respectful manner concerning this. BJ our prayers are with you and look forward to your safe return from overseas. All childish comments on this page do a great disservice to yourself, your style and your instructor. Whoever you are...
jrwellin 3 years ago
Ohhh, nice kick to the chin, man!
JoeyT80 4 years ago
u underneath haaatin causae u cant do it if u dont like it stop watchin it go head do yo htan cuz luv ya
kimic93 4 years ago
ok... so where is the "jow ga" in this? All I see is kick boxing...
jrwellin 4 years ago
I agree jrwellin this is a terrible display of "Jow Ga"...
Well stated!
Jasesino 3 years ago
get yo ass up mario!!! that kick didn't hurt.i bet his chin is still swollen. lol- terryb
tbiz00 4 years ago
Dayum!!! Nice fight....go JOW GA!
NextStepUp 4 years ago 2
Sanda/san shou and Jow ga kung fu are 2 different styles of fighting one is sports Sanshou(pretty much kickboxing with Chinese wrestling throws)Jow isnt a sport so why is this clip titled jow ga fighter when it has nothing to do with this clip?
georgeee1 4 years ago
The fighter is a jow ga student who has trained in the system for many years. He is my si hing. Most fighters represent their schools AND styles in Sanshou. For example, you don't separate Tat Mau Wong from Choy Lee Fut when he fought full contact.This clip is no different. No disrespect, but I didn't think such an explanation would be necessary.
bruceleroy98 4 years ago
Ok... So where in Jow Ga do we throw kicks head level? Where in Jow Ga do we throw 2 punches and stop? What happened to Lin Wan Kuen?
There are certain things we do in Jow ga which I just did not see. Not even so much techniques, but fighting philosophy and the way we fight.
jrwellin 4 years ago
The Richmond Virginia Jow Ga School would like to thank you for your concerns and anyone else who wishes one of our own much success in the up coming event. Those of you who have had the success of winning higher level competitions such as the USA Team Trials understand the necessary adjustments needed to defeat some fighters. The 3 systems that make up Jow Ga Kung Fu prove adjustments have to made. - Sifu Charles Middleton
bruceleroy98 4 years ago 4
Richmond Virginia reply part 2 -
We are grateful for the emails we have recieved from the United States, China and Hong Kong supporting Captain Keith Brown of the United States Army in his up coming competition. When one of us does good, we all do good. - Sifu Charles Middleton
bruceleroy98 4 years ago 2
please keep the updates coming. I would love to see Jow Ga win big Sanda fights.
monji112000 4 years ago
Will, I've met you at tournaments, and down at Va. Beach... And I know you've met BJ (the one in the video) and know he is not only superb in forms, but also is an accomplished fighter. I don't understand why all the put downs?
abishaiyoung 3 years ago
wait division?
mazda618 4 years ago
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JowGaFuRy 4 years ago
Wow, LT!! That was a great fight! Please send me more, I have subsribed to You Tube just to see your matches, so don't let me down. I can support you thorugh here, if I can't make the matches! - JBowers
OCBowers 4 years ago
Outstanding BJ! I wondered about the outcome and I was pleased to find out you were successful. You're at the level I hope to be at soon. Hopefully when I get the opportunity to fight Sanshou, I'll be ready and do just as well as you have. Keep up the good work. Your school is behind you 100%!! Haha, the hook kick was like nyquil!! Nighty night. :-)
bruceleroy98 4 years ago
Good Job Dude.....That kick to the chin was crucial.
andrewcrenshaw1 4 years ago