6 for sure, genetic modification in a heart beat (when safety mostly established), but 7 is questionable for me due to personal attachment to the physical world. I dislike the computer download example for 7, but would seriously consider an evolutionary jump to an incorporeal, transcendent entity that could still interact with the material world.
8-Laugh at humans,and watch has they use their technology and non-technology to EAT each other-because humans did not evolve at all over time...and they won't be able to use any technology without being highly stupid.
I pick this option because I know what the human race are-and I saw what they choose to follow...don't expect any utopia even if the technology existed...expect Cyber-wars,Body-stealers,Anti-machine organizations,and self-aware robots who see humans as a major threat to everything
The issue for me is how far could I go and still be me. #4 seems safe enough to go up to. I presume #7 would include uploading a copy of my brain to a robot brain, destroying my physical brain in the process. I would not do this unless I were going to die soon enough anyway, such as if I had a terminal disease. I don't think the robot would be me, but it would leave the world a replica of me. #5 and #6 are iffy. If I augmented my brain with nanobots, for example, would it be me or a borg-mind?
Hmmm... probably 6 for me. Well for now at least, though if you know how the universe will end up after the golden ages of the stars, and as matter begins to break down and if I can no longer sustain that being, I might go for option 7, that is if I don't get tired of 'living'/'existing' by then.
I would go all the way, though I would do it gradually. I thinking skipping a bunch of steps at once puts you at risk of losing your identity, but as a gradual process it is a lot safer. Of course once you get to 5 or 6, the process would be going much quicker but relatively it would seem gradual as you would have grown used to the increases in advancements. The one thing I wouldn't do is permanently merge minds with others, because I want to remain an individual.
6! My biggest dream is to become immortal, see the future and it's technologies. I totally hate that I live now, because we are in the beginning of the technological future... We are surrounded by technologies but they are insignificant! Just think what your life will be if we had technologies like invisibility, anti-gravity, nanotechnology, quantum technologies, immortality and even time traveling!
I'd go from 5 to 6, but i wouldn't want 7 unless i've evolved to 7 over the course of many many lifetimes to experience and to learn and to gradually evolve my consciousness beyond human thinking. The continuity of our experience is important, as this is what makes us us in the first place. Gradual merging is much like getting oder. You are not the same person you were as a child, but it doesn't matter since you became the person you are now gradually.
5 and at that time i can decide if i want 6 or 7 : ) you don't have to choose right away and when you're at 5 you can decide much better what you want.
probs 6/7 - the thing that would annoy me about 7 is that you'd most likely lose your sense of self and could no longer be like "MWAAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!! I AM A GOD!! OVER 9000!" and such...
When I think all the things in the world I'm not equipped to perceive or not smart enough to appreciate... For now there is more than enought to experience, but if I planned of living for hundreds of years, I would need to keep boredom at bay .
Sadly, I doubt I'll see any of this during my life span.
I choose #3. A balance between organic and in-organic.
I did a research paper dubbed "The Inhumanity of Transhumanism" and plan on uploading a video about it in a month or so. Realistically, transhumanism has been around since at least the time of the Eygptians. Personally, I would say transhumanism has been around since the first invention, the wheel or fire, whichever.
Transhumanism isn't as grand as it seems and will most likely result in the extinction of the human species.
@SmileyVlog I would like to add, however, I would choose #3 under the conditions that human nature were cured of deception and/or the human species became a collective.
@lemuriavi Egyptians invented the wooden toe. How is a wooden toe a modification? It enhances balance if the individual had no toe.
When people think of Transhumanism, they typically think of internal integration or singularity. External integration is also Transhumanism.
External modification vs internal modification.
It is a different perspective; the reality is that Transhumanism is nothing more than the human species mimicing and adapting to its surrounding environments.
@SmileyVlog I think we yet know soo little about history. Recent studies find out some pyramids hidden in Indonesia. And their size is comparable to Giza.
@lemuriavi Indeed, history is written by the victor. I didn't know about pyramids in Indonesia, which it is rather interesting.
Primarily, I mentioned the Egyptians to use them as an example of mundane transhumanism. Point being, transhumanism has been around as long as humankind. It just so happens that we most recently in history created a word to identify and articulate this manifestation since is becoming more sophisticated and obvious.
@SmileyVlog I would go until 6, Why not 7? Because I don't think we should limit our understanding of future technologies as merely computer program. Like in the past, people thought of mechanics as the finest invention, but after we find out the law of electricity, we slowly integrate this new understanding of nature and this gave rise to today's technology.
Might be in the future, a new discovery would again tumble our perception of future technology.
4 would be fun. Perfect body and mind. I'd want to enjoy each stage. Preferably existing as a 7 that peeks into different universes and takes part in the creation.
How about merging the entire human species into one entity? Not as the human race stands right now of course. I mean once we fix our inherent stupidity.
6-7. I would want to see how far the possibilities would go. Which I believe that they're limitless so I'd want to be around and experience and see and learn everything I possibly could. On a personal note.....This all came to me in an LSD trip and until then and after I never thought about any of this.(A.I., Singularity, A.I./human evolution.....) My third eye has been has been thoroughly squeegeed, as the late, great Bill Hicks used to say.
Eliminating genetics, and hence any ability to reproduce. That's getting to the point where the human species ends. (Yes the species can be dead even if human minds and or persons continue indefinitely.)
As for #7 - your not really immortal. When the server running your sim world crashes, you die - though they can load duplicates of you as often as they care to. Your not really part of the world, just a copy of a human mind, pretending to have a life, in a pretend universe.
5-6, when I was younger I would have chosen 7, but I respect the body more and am a bit more spiritual. I want to die a natural death b/c if the whole DMT thing is true, then even though DMT can be extracted, death seems like an experience that would be worth going through. Maybe uploading my mind aswell so I could experience both death and immortality, but what if my soul lived on? WOW
Work my way up, eventually getting to the highest number and beyond as I merge with other minds. Like the individual cells of the human body form a being so will minds form superintelligent collectives. Changing ones biological substrate to a synthetic one (computer program) doesn't necessarily exclude one from reality but doing changes to our neural network could cause us to drift away from reality. Anyone improving their intelligence sufficiently will prepare them for the next level.
Even at the cost of my humanity, I would consider it against the nearly fifty other theories i've come across before assimilation and further modification.
6 at most, maybe 7 if I get bored with this world. I would not do 7 under norm circumstances because I want to see and know all i can, that includes this world and all of it's sights. I would not move to a virtual world unless it was necessary to my survival.
Ever seen the movie treasure planet? Remember John Silver? I'd go at least as far as John Sparrow to the point to where only my real brain is preserved... I would go so far to where I can be sustained in space without a ship, etc.
6 works for me. I don't want to disconnect from the real. Wouldn't mind linking into the #7 matrix during dream time, but the material has so many problems to solve. Key among them is insuring the universes immortality, which is no small task. But also it would be interesting to boldly go and seek out new life, new civilizations, with the power attributed to God, and the benevolence attributed (by his fans) to Walt Disney.
7, 7, and 7 again. I care not for this weak, temporary, biological frame, which is susceptible to pain, disease, sickness, injury, and death. Those are things that humans can and should transcend. If technology can bring us there, then why not?
Err... 4: I like my mind the way it is... But the living forever and physical enhancement part would be sweet, plus I might be able to go places I wouldn't normally be able to go.
I would like to think that when my time comes, I will turn down chemotherapy. Cancer is a method of population control. Technology is removing the natural process and puts us out of control.
In Dostoevsky's 'Notes from The Underground', in the first few pages the main character says he has a toothache but he will not go to the dentist, out of spite. This is "turning the tables" as we say in English, to which the rational order of dentistry is challenged to answer with its own death.
@lntertubes This may seem silly, but it belongs to something that I consider a general rule of the universe, the Aztecs understood it. If transhumanism takes off full throttle, that ball of transhuman techno-crap, even if it leaves the solar system in its quest for perfection, immortality, will never avoid the point when it "goes astray", expends itself.
@lntertubes Although I go to the dentist to control pain, I do not prescribe to the cosmetic side of it. I have needed bridgework (in the dentist's opinion) and caps for decades. Yet, today my smile is my own - a crooked eroded smile - born of the natural aging process.
@Wicka1957 I'm not proposing a commandment, "Thou shall not go to the dentist." It was just to illustrate something that undermines, remains foreign to, the internal trajectory of consumer capitalism, globalization, transhumanism.
I feel that anything further isn't really "me", that once my biological brain is completely gone - then i have already died. Although after being immortal for some time, the value of my own life would increase and the fear of losing it could force me to reconsider :P
As a physicist who worked on the Manhattan Project lamented "you can't stop progress." Capabilities will become abilities and it will be up those who inherit mankind's collective "progress" to carry on the legacy as they see fit.
5- I have always hoped humanity will be able to overcome the limitations of our own development and genetics and realize our highest cognitive potential, even if that required artificial assistance, but I would never give up my human form to do so. I would be willing to transcend mortality but I fear that it would come at a cost too great to bear. Though in the end I am a human and so I wish to remain regardless of the opportunities provided to me.
that constitute one's intelligence. Therefore it is completely rational to me, to accept complete immortality and assurance of the continuation of my consciousness infinitely.
The only two genetically moral objectives of life are reproduction of one's genetic material and preservation of one's intelligence. Denial of the opportunity to reproduce your genetic material or acceptance of mortality are illogical because they defy the entire process of organic evolution. Transhumanism makes both the digital instantaneous reproduction of one's consciousness perpetually possible barring catastrophic injury and continual propagation of the electrical signals
4 sounds nice, once there I might consider the other options but there is something about messing around with the mind that makes me want to have a lot of evidence before risking it. I mean, what if my personality gets changed to the point where I am no longer me?
i would start from 4 and slowly move towards a godly being when i get used to a thought of being more than me. right now i dont think that step 7 would be logical sense i would pretty much be immortal at step 6.
I wouldn't go beyond #3. As a biologist (and someone who discussed this with biologists smarter then me), I have a hard time trusting #4. As amazing as technology may become, age is a natural thing we cannot escape, and with age come cell disintegration and diseases. People in the past didn't get diseases that people get today because they didn't get to such old ages.
The only way to escape ageing completely is transfer to inorganic form (computer or robots). But then we are not human anymore
As a fellow biologist i like your point and quite agree. Although do you think that with future technology, inorganic matter WILL be altered enough so that it CAN continue to replicate without aging related consequences for a much longer period of time? Although i doubt myself that organic matter could ever reach the levels of immortality with inorganics - but even a few hundred years could be possible imo.
I would go to 4. At 5-7, I worry about losing my consciousness. In other words, would it really be me experiencing reality or would I essentially be dead, experiencing nothingness, while some other machine with my memories and personality goes on existing?
i really hope your kind stick to their ignorant ways when the time comes. you knuckle-dragging disgraces have held back our race since the dawn of the thinking man, and you don't deserve the fruits of logic and science, since you have shunned them to further your selfish needs and lie away your fears.
i hope you all reject the great marvels the singularity brings, and you die just as all the purveyors of ignorance did before you.
@fishtankbank no, i live in an elitist world where the leaders want to create hell on earth. everything humans ever touched turned to shit, why should this be any different?
@illfaderbehaviour dDo you follow the Christian god? Chances are you do, and that would mean you are following an evil god. You know he killed more than two million people in the bible and ordered that unborn babys be cut from there mothers womb. That sound pretty evil to me. "why should this be any different?" What are you scared of? If you dont like it doent participate. its that simple.
@fishtankbank whichever religion u follow, science is the only god but its the devil in disguise. dont participate! when the world is run by cyborgs i wont have a choice. 'non conformists' will be branded a threat. dont be naive, its not the utopia we all seek, its the road to hell, i use that word to discribe a world of enslavement, nothing to do with the bible. they wont need cctv in u're house when u have a camera for an eye or u have 2 plug in to the hive mind every night to receive updates
@illfaderbehaviour i dont follow a religion. "when the world is run by cyborgs i" you wont be anything youll be dead. " will be branded a threat" why would they? if everyone else is a cyborg and had superhuman ability they wouldn't be a threat. your insane, what about all these cell phones people have? They have microphones and transition capability's. They could be spieing on you man! and you hold it to your head!! THEY could be like controling your mind man!! oh shit spooky. "the hive mind"
@fishtankbank if you haven't heard of the hive mind then you really need to be researching this subject a lot more before you can comment. you're listening to the propaganda and believing it. good luck, your going to need it!
@illfaderbehaviour I understand the hive mind, and to some extent we are already there. You watched to much star trek. "good luck, your going to need it!" ya ok, ill try not to become a borg next week. What are you talking about? This shit most lickly wont even be happening in our liftimes so chill, you have nothing to worry about.
@illfaderbehaviour "you're listening to the propaganda" Propaganda? sure because there are trans-humanist flyers flying from the sky and left in every bus ive ever been on. Get real
@fishtankbank films like iron man, transformers, the latest terminator features a transhuman, Xmen origins blatantly shows how the US government are doing human experiments in fusing animal genes with technology, all designed to give us empathy for machines. open your eyes instead of your sub concious
@illfaderbehaviour " iron man" Would you consider someone with a pacemaker trans-human? TERMINATOR was made to make us feel empathy for machines seriously? its about robots trying to kill all of humanity. It has nothing to do with transhumanism by the way"all designed to give us empathy for machines." do you think this is some kind of conspiricy?there made by seperate companies for the porpose of entertainment "open your eyes instead of your sub concious" what the hell is that supposed to mean?
@fishtankbank we're clearly not even on the same level of intelligence. your hypnotised way too deep for me to even bother trying to teach you. you obviously need an upgrade. good luck, im bored of this conversation now.
@fishtankbank and in the last terminator christian bale plays a transhuman, WATCH IT! Iron man has an electronic heart, and yes, it is a conspiracy. WAKE UP!! for your own sake, the choices you make won't effect me.
@illfaderbehaviour "how else are they going to create their new race?" you have no idea what transhumanism really is. Its not about making people into borgs without free will. If you get all your info from these fear mongering videos you whont come out with any real understanding of what trans humanism is about.
Technological advance should be maintained but human beings should remain as they are. Given that neuroscience has proven concepts like neuroplasticity (neuron adaptability) and neurogenesis (neuron birth) it is evident that human beings are advanced biological systems benefiting from experiences in the real world. As a psychology student hope humans stay human!
Transhumanism is a big mistake, altered consciousness, power sounds like a recipe for addiction to me and addicts over time seek greater stimulation, as the law of diminishing returns kicks in this will lead to amoral people. Such technology could similarly be used to control or subjugate human beings to if an Orwellian future came to past.
I would choice number 7, but only if I retained the power to choose any of the other numbers at will as well. In simpler terms I want my choice to have the choice of doing whatever I want, of making multiple choices, whenever I please and as I seem fit. I want the right to even become a completely normal mortal human if I willed it.
6 sounds good for me, but if 7 was tested and stable, and we could effectively make a biggerm better universe with less constrains inside it, then 7 would be my choice, but as long as the rest of population goes that way too. I wouldnt wanna be some lonely file in a computer. =P
7 of course. Why rule anything out as a means of self-actualization before these options have even been researched in full?
I'd gravitate toward gene-modding tested for safety in a biomolecular computer simulation, though, before I might choose to leave biology behind entirely.
I would go as far as a tame version of 5, possibly even a tame 6, depending on the actual technological possibilities if and when that time came.
As the person I am right now (35yo), I would accept pretty much any medical advancements to prolong my natural life as long as my mental capacities were viable.
Number 7 seems illogical in that I do not believe that "you" can survive as an "upload". For the same reasons, teleportation would destroy "you" and create another one.
7 all the way, being able to manifest myself (or rather an arbitrary number of avatars of myself) in the physical world using nanomachines. I can then be in millions of places at once. My being will then coincide with my current values (tho those might change in unexpected ways themselves).
My answer's kinda wierd. I would choose number 5, but omit the possibility of living forever in number 4. I accept 5 because I certainly have no problem with medical treatment and think enhanced cognitive ability is good. Even though I don't think of myself as such, I already am a machine, just with a consciousness. I stop at 5 because I want to maintain my physical body (rules out 7) and because, while I am not opposed to 6 for myself, I think that is too dangerous a power for anyone to wield.
7) It is hijacking the next wave of evolution to ride to infinity and beyond the capacities and advantages of future software will be godlike. Even enhanced humans can only go thousands of times beyond their current limitations but computation can carry its self billions of times greater than biology ever could. Keep in mind that our great grandparents would be uncomfortable with the internet in the first place why buy from someone miles away when you cant even shake hands to seal the deal?
@AAL You still have memories of your past self and the beliefs you have come to aquire through experience. You still have a sense of identity--the self, that is. When merged into this conciousness you would completely lose that sense of self. Now, the concept of a self may be completely illusory, but it still is something very important to most of us. My point doesn't rule out #7 altogether, but anyone should be aware of the possible consequences before making such a decision as you describe.
@AAL: You have clothes, a watch, etc. ON you, but they aren't changing your thoughts, memories, and perceptions (forget the bolded "on" as i guess their being inside or outside your body doesn't really matter).
A brain chip that merely enhances memory wouldn't change memory in the sense i'm talking about, it would merely improve recall of the ones you already have. However, some of the transhumanist tech changes your personality and skills to a point where evenyourformer self wouldn't know u.
I like number four. Five is intriguing, but I'm not sure if I want to leave my personality behind in the process. I'm also a bit paranoid about tinkering with my brain.
i would go into the matrix as an avatar or if you red the singularity by ray kurzweil i would go to the 3.0 body version. a cloud of nanoparticles capable of change forms.
What we consider our bodies are not truly ourselves.
I will live out this experience as I have chosen it to be.
The extension of my mortal existence is pointless as I came into this life to experience myself as a mortal being with all the joys and sorrows contained therein.
If I have raised my frequency sufficiently I will reansform into the next dimmension of reality.
If I have not raised my frequency enough..."I'll be back".
I'd want to be immortal. People talk of immortality as being a curse but you could put yourself into a temporary death/sleep for however long you want and then resurrect yourself. A thousand year rest every now and then i'm sure would blow away the cobwebs and give you a new lease of life :)
Though a skeptic (pyrrhonian, as in philosophy) I value experience and the appearances of what my senses tell me. Therefore, being mobile6 is a must, so I would instantly jump to 5, if not 6. If only I can answer Socrates when I invariably meet him in "hell." I just want what can be considered TRUE KNOWLEDGE. Personally, I may not want to skip to seven, though,as I have this irrational inability to shake dualism.
I would go for no. 7. The Human Body is too oppressive to be lived by anymore. And being part of a software rather than the physical seems like dreams come true (I don't even like real HUMAN females).
I think Mind Transfer is possible. The Mind is made up of evolving will just like everything in the universe, and what if we copy our wills and memories to an AI software? Time will tell.
I would go for number 4, and if i'd became bored with living for centuries, i'd take 5,6,7, "upgrading" one number every 300 years. If you think about it, in generation or two, all developed world people would have 3, and some would be able to afford 4. This is going to happen, we like it or not. History shows us, that you can't stop science and tech. progress. Yeah we can stop transhumanist tech in EU and USA for example, but China, Korea, and Japan would have it in 20-30 years anyway.
LOL!!! your fucked then, we allrdy have theoretically proven designs of: a diamond(sp2 bonded carbon) skeleton, neodymium strength magnetic goo muscles(300x strength increase), couple that with the speed of an electrical current and the reflexes of a supercomputer and you have no chance in hell of even landing a bullet, and even if you could, it would take no less than a 30mm vulcan to stop even one super human of such designs.
And so shall I even at the 7th stage. Just because transhumanism gives YOU more control over your thoughts, it doesn't mean others will control them, or even want to. Whats the use of slavery when any task can be performed with non-human nanites? transhumanism means Immortality with unlimited knowledge: god. You speak of the pits of hell, why not embrace the attributes of god to know him?
Lucifer and god don't exist and yes we can become gods. Within 100 years transhumans can very well leave this universe, shift between dimensions, control time, matter and space; even create it. But I guess your reasoning is that if you try to match your god in strength then you should be punished: primitive and anti-progressive mindset.
I know, I hoped the word "god" would work like it always does when selling an invisible product. The only difference here is that we have evidence for it. Oh well.
Doesn't the selling of your dogmatic ideology make you just like the religious folks?
As for a "visible" product?
In your little New Age sermon,you were rattling on with evangelical fervour about "creating matter" and "leaving the universe",and "shifting between dimensions",and "controlling time."
How can you sit there and then talk about "evidence" with a straight face?
In due time we may just learn everything there is to know of the multiverses, or perhaps whats beyond them. What I spoke of is very possible according to science. I see no problem in treating science as a religion and spreading it's sermon of a never ending quest for truth and knowledge. All I'm selling is truth for the sake of my species.
Robots?! Fuckin christ on a cracker! It's just not that fucking simple. Transhumanism is the next step in our evolutionary process and may very well be coaxed with organic materials. And no I will not respect lunacy, just tolerate it for the time being.
I will go up #3 on the condition that any changes will be genetic only and that I have a choice if not #2.
J3rEmY17 4 weeks ago
i think i will go for number 7 even if its just a change in my body
barakktiger405 1 month ago
6 for sure, genetic modification in a heart beat (when safety mostly established), but 7 is questionable for me due to personal attachment to the physical world. I dislike the computer download example for 7, but would seriously consider an evolutionary jump to an incorporeal, transcendent entity that could still interact with the material world.
morninggremlin 1 month ago
Be we don't have a choice. Its 7 all the time.
jhild4 2 months ago
8-Laugh at humans,and watch has they use their technology and non-technology to EAT each other-because humans did not evolve at all over time...and they won't be able to use any technology without being highly stupid.
I pick this option because I know what the human race are-and I saw what they choose to follow...don't expect any utopia even if the technology existed...expect Cyber-wars,Body-stealers,Anti-machine organizations,and self-aware robots who see humans as a major threat to everything
Wharwulif 2 months ago
lolz if i did 7 i would be jumping pipes and crushing mushrooms for eternity!!
McmullenEJ 4 months ago
The issue for me is how far could I go and still be me. #4 seems safe enough to go up to. I presume #7 would include uploading a copy of my brain to a robot brain, destroying my physical brain in the process. I would not do this unless I were going to die soon enough anyway, such as if I had a terminal disease. I don't think the robot would be me, but it would leave the world a replica of me. #5 and #6 are iffy. If I augmented my brain with nanobots, for example, would it be me or a borg-mind?
fortheloveofwisdom 4 months ago
To the point in which technology would now longer be nessacery, and from there towards infinity.
Greenmist14 5 months ago
"Transhumanism: How far would you go?"
This far
watch?v=jdERgfgB9Yc
abram730 6 months ago
..so 1& 2 are ok.
MySophisticated 6 months ago
nothing at all I don´t trust technology esp. not in my body
for people who had lost a body part forever it would be helpful
but at least I have no deathless sickness so I personal avoid technology in my body.
I believe in an natural evolution & I don´t want to mix with creation.
MySophisticated 6 months ago
6 because I wouldn't want to live forever and wouldn't be able to test my abilities if I'm part of a computer program :(.
HybridD91 6 months ago
Hmmm... probably 6 for me. Well for now at least, though if you know how the universe will end up after the golden ages of the stars, and as matter begins to break down and if I can no longer sustain that being, I might go for option 7, that is if I don't get tired of 'living'/'existing' by then.
slavj 7 months ago
Ape....Human ape....Homosapiens....Humosuperior!
MrMarijanke 8 months ago
I would go all the way, though I would do it gradually. I thinking skipping a bunch of steps at once puts you at risk of losing your identity, but as a gradual process it is a lot safer. Of course once you get to 5 or 6, the process would be going much quicker but relatively it would seem gradual as you would have grown used to the increases in advancements. The one thing I wouldn't do is permanently merge minds with others, because I want to remain an individual.
Lilithaaaa 8 months ago
6! My biggest dream is to become immortal, see the future and it's technologies. I totally hate that I live now, because we are in the beginning of the technological future... We are surrounded by technologies but they are insignificant! Just think what your life will be if we had technologies like invisibility, anti-gravity, nanotechnology, quantum technologies, immortality and even time traveling!
driftkingbulgaria 8 months ago
I'd go from 5 to 6, but i wouldn't want 7 unless i've evolved to 7 over the course of many many lifetimes to experience and to learn and to gradually evolve my consciousness beyond human thinking. The continuity of our experience is important, as this is what makes us us in the first place. Gradual merging is much like getting oder. You are not the same person you were as a child, but it doesn't matter since you became the person you are now gradually.
annata12 8 months ago
I find the upper options somewhat lacking in imaginative scope, but I would be on the extreme liberal end of self-modification.
memoryhero 9 months ago
6 or 7, it really depends on how connected you'd be to the borganism
Blacklemon67a 9 months ago
6 for me, I still want to be myself all the way through, I don't want to become "part" of a greater thing.
And I still doubt you can really upload yourself into a pc, nobody can really tell you if that's "you" or just a copy who thinks he is you.
Dionysus24779 9 months ago
5 and at that time i can decide if i want 6 or 7 : ) you don't have to choose right away and when you're at 5 you can decide much better what you want.
smortx 9 months ago
probs 6/7 - the thing that would annoy me about 7 is that you'd most likely lose your sense of self and could no longer be like "MWAAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!! I AM A GOD!! OVER 9000!" and such...
hmspinaforethisisspa 10 months ago
6 or 7.
When I think all the things in the world I'm not equipped to perceive or not smart enough to appreciate... For now there is more than enought to experience, but if I planned of living for hundreds of years, I would need to keep boredom at bay .
Sadly, I doubt I'll see any of this during my life span.
ThisOneIsTaken 10 months ago
@ThisOneIsTaken maybe you will. We have already produce a printer for cells and organs. Search in ted talks
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lemuriavi 10 months ago
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SmileyVlog 11 months ago
I choose #3. A balance between organic and in-organic.
I did a research paper dubbed "The Inhumanity of Transhumanism" and plan on uploading a video about it in a month or so. Realistically, transhumanism has been around since at least the time of the Eygptians. Personally, I would say transhumanism has been around since the first invention, the wheel or fire, whichever.
Transhumanism isn't as grand as it seems and will most likely result in the extinction of the human species.
SmileyVlog 11 months ago
@SmileyVlog I would like to add, however, I would choose #3 under the conditions that human nature were cured of deception and/or the human species became a collective.
So, for the time being, #2.
SmileyVlog 11 months ago
@SmileyVlog would be interested to know how you explain the Egyptians already transmuted themselves.
lemuriavi 10 months ago
@lemuriavi Egyptians invented the wooden toe. How is a wooden toe a modification? It enhances balance if the individual had no toe.
When people think of Transhumanism, they typically think of internal integration or singularity. External integration is also Transhumanism.
External modification vs internal modification.
It is a different perspective; the reality is that Transhumanism is nothing more than the human species mimicing and adapting to its surrounding environments.
SmileyVlog 10 months ago
@SmileyVlog I think we yet know soo little about history. Recent studies find out some pyramids hidden in Indonesia. And their size is comparable to Giza.
lemuriavi 10 months ago
@lemuriavi Indeed, history is written by the victor. I didn't know about pyramids in Indonesia, which it is rather interesting.
Primarily, I mentioned the Egyptians to use them as an example of mundane transhumanism. Point being, transhumanism has been around as long as humankind. It just so happens that we most recently in history created a word to identify and articulate this manifestation since is becoming more sophisticated and obvious.
On a scale from 1 to 7, what would you prefer?
SmileyVlog 10 months ago
@SmileyVlog I would go until 6, Why not 7? Because I don't think we should limit our understanding of future technologies as merely computer program. Like in the past, people thought of mechanics as the finest invention, but after we find out the law of electricity, we slowly integrate this new understanding of nature and this gave rise to today's technology.
Might be in the future, a new discovery would again tumble our perception of future technology.
lemuriavi 10 months ago
@SmileyVlog By the way, I like the way you view the wooden toe. Indeed I agree with you understanding of external transhumanism.
lemuriavi 10 months ago
4 would be fun. Perfect body and mind. I'd want to enjoy each stage. Preferably existing as a 7 that peeks into different universes and takes part in the creation.
otter7467 1 year ago
i would totally upload my mind into a foglet supercomputer. construct any virtual reality i can possibly imagine instantaneously? shit yes.
turn my body into any physical form in existence? explore the universe? fuck yeah!
Robstailey 1 year ago
How about merging the entire human species into one entity? Not as the human race stands right now of course. I mean once we fix our inherent stupidity.
damaged01 1 year ago
number 5-6 I would go as far as
TeeFlick 1 year ago
i would use this technology to become a demigod with the ability of Flight
Clarkofkrypton 1 year ago
This technology might be used to create the "Image of the Beast" in Revelation 13, come check out my series on this- on my channel.
kristimjlove 1 year ago
@kristimjlove
get your religious bullshit out of here. it has no place in a scientific discussion.
Robstailey 1 year ago
@Robstailey without religion and spirituality science will not advance
once we advance spiritually the science will come for the unimaginable.
we are just not ready yet, as per the response given. - have a nice day.
muckstar23 1 year ago
6-7. I would want to see how far the possibilities would go. Which I believe that they're limitless so I'd want to be around and experience and see and learn everything I possibly could. On a personal note.....This all came to me in an LSD trip and until then and after I never thought about any of this.(A.I., Singularity, A.I./human evolution.....) My third eye has been has been thoroughly squeegeed, as the late, great Bill Hicks used to say.
thedude9282 1 year ago
@thedude9282 i would have to work my way up though.
thedude9282 1 year ago
7 if I could always have my memories and knew who i was.
alexnzxVersion2 1 year ago
Once I do everything I wish to do when I am human I will consider incremental technological enhancement.
Emanresu56 1 year ago
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Emanresu56 1 year ago
Somewhere between 5 and 6 sounds pretty good, I would consider going 7 IF I was guaranteed to keep my individuality (i.e. no loss of identity).
Sin526 1 year ago
I would problably want to become a 7 eventually. I would problably have to transend from one stage you mentioned to another though.
TheBrightPulse 1 year ago
Can I go higher than 7?
DieiNoctis 1 year ago
i would go as far as i could.
CavalloDiSpade 1 year ago
5-6
Eliminating genetics, and hence any ability to reproduce. That's getting to the point where the human species ends. (Yes the species can be dead even if human minds and or persons continue indefinitely.)
As for #7 - your not really immortal. When the server running your sim world crashes, you die - though they can load duplicates of you as often as they care to. Your not really part of the world, just a copy of a human mind, pretending to have a life, in a pretend universe.
KellyStarks 1 year ago
5-6, when I was younger I would have chosen 7, but I respect the body more and am a bit more spiritual. I want to die a natural death b/c if the whole DMT thing is true, then even though DMT can be extracted, death seems like an experience that would be worth going through. Maybe uploading my mind aswell so I could experience both death and immortality, but what if my soul lived on? WOW
HearingEveryRhyme 1 year ago
i would choose 6
CultofAlexander 1 year ago
Work my way up, eventually getting to the highest number and beyond as I merge with other minds. Like the individual cells of the human body form a being so will minds form superintelligent collectives. Changing ones biological substrate to a synthetic one (computer program) doesn't necessarily exclude one from reality but doing changes to our neural network could cause us to drift away from reality. Anyone improving their intelligence sufficiently will prepare them for the next level.
douglasdeveau 1 year ago
7, definitively!
Rejistania 1 year ago
Even at the cost of my humanity, I would consider it against the nearly fifty other theories i've come across before assimilation and further modification.
orbitaldebri 1 year ago
6 at most, maybe 7 if I get bored with this world. I would not do 7 under norm circumstances because I want to see and know all i can, that includes this world and all of it's sights. I would not move to a virtual world unless it was necessary to my survival.
jacewolf301 1 year ago
Ever seen the movie treasure planet? Remember John Silver? I'd go at least as far as John Sparrow to the point to where only my real brain is preserved... I would go so far to where I can be sustained in space without a ship, etc.
m00ste 1 year ago
@m00ste John Silver*
m00ste 1 year ago
How do we know we aren't already a program?
iversonmatthew 1 year ago
6 works for me. I don't want to disconnect from the real. Wouldn't mind linking into the #7 matrix during dream time, but the material has so many problems to solve. Key among them is insuring the universes immortality, which is no small task. But also it would be interesting to boldly go and seek out new life, new civilizations, with the power attributed to God, and the benevolence attributed (by his fans) to Walt Disney.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
#6
people like to abuse things and whoever is in charge of the #7 computer could turn out to be an asshole
with #6 im still anchored to the physical realm while still "having powers which mythologies once attributed to the gods."
Kalahridudex 1 year ago
7, 7, and 7 again. I care not for this weak, temporary, biological frame, which is susceptible to pain, disease, sickness, injury, and death. Those are things that humans can and should transcend. If technology can bring us there, then why not?
Xeletoph 1 year ago
This discussion reminds me of a short story I read on the web about a man who meets God on a train.
Anyway, a civilization of polymaths going about their day making any achievement within normal human capabilities look dismally mediocre?
Sign me up.
(I'll go with number 5, with an option to upgrade later if it seems prudent.)
chr2306 1 year ago
Err... 4: I like my mind the way it is... But the living forever and physical enhancement part would be sweet, plus I might be able to go places I wouldn't normally be able to go.
Swordofswordom 1 year ago
I would like to think that when my time comes, I will turn down chemotherapy. Cancer is a method of population control. Technology is removing the natural process and puts us out of control.
Wicka1957 1 year ago
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Wicka1957 1 year ago
1. Nowhere, in theory at least.
In Dostoevsky's 'Notes from The Underground', in the first few pages the main character says he has a toothache but he will not go to the dentist, out of spite. This is "turning the tables" as we say in English, to which the rational order of dentistry is challenged to answer with its own death.
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes This may seem silly, but it belongs to something that I consider a general rule of the universe, the Aztecs understood it. If transhumanism takes off full throttle, that ball of transhuman techno-crap, even if it leaves the solar system in its quest for perfection, immortality, will never avoid the point when it "goes astray", expends itself.
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes Although I go to the dentist to control pain, I do not prescribe to the cosmetic side of it. I have needed bridgework (in the dentist's opinion) and caps for decades. Yet, today my smile is my own - a crooked eroded smile - born of the natural aging process.
Wicka1957 1 year ago
@Wicka1957 I'm not proposing a commandment, "Thou shall not go to the dentist." It was just to illustrate something that undermines, remains foreign to, the internal trajectory of consumer capitalism, globalization, transhumanism.
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes It can be undermined, in other ways. Oh, lets say some gift-economy society that detaches itself from the global.
lntertubes 1 year ago
2 sounds alright, maybe 1
PeyoteIguana 1 year ago
I'd go with #4.
I feel that anything further isn't really "me", that once my biological brain is completely gone - then i have already died. Although after being immortal for some time, the value of my own life would increase and the fear of losing it could force me to reconsider :P
CrazyEurazion 1 year ago
As a physicist who worked on the Manhattan Project lamented "you can't stop progress." Capabilities will become abilities and it will be up those who inherit mankind's collective "progress" to carry on the legacy as they see fit.
MacabreTripsix 1 year ago
I would go 6.
antoineph 1 year ago
5- I have always hoped humanity will be able to overcome the limitations of our own development and genetics and realize our highest cognitive potential, even if that required artificial assistance, but I would never give up my human form to do so. I would be willing to transcend mortality but I fear that it would come at a cost too great to bear. Though in the end I am a human and so I wish to remain regardless of the opportunities provided to me.
Snipe4261 1 year ago
that constitute one's intelligence. Therefore it is completely rational to me, to accept complete immortality and assurance of the continuation of my consciousness infinitely.
pipersack 1 year ago
The only two genetically moral objectives of life are reproduction of one's genetic material and preservation of one's intelligence. Denial of the opportunity to reproduce your genetic material or acceptance of mortality are illogical because they defy the entire process of organic evolution. Transhumanism makes both the digital instantaneous reproduction of one's consciousness perpetually possible barring catastrophic injury and continual propagation of the electrical signals
pipersack 1 year ago
I would stop just before the first irreversible point, whatever could that be.
in no case I would leave my body (flesh & blood) behind.
I won't ever be a bee.
hope this answer fits the requests.
YouthOobe 1 year ago
i would be a god with the power of Flight & an enhanced physiology
Clarkofkrypton 1 year ago
4 sounds nice, once there I might consider the other options but there is something about messing around with the mind that makes me want to have a lot of evidence before risking it. I mean, what if my personality gets changed to the point where I am no longer me?
MegaYippie 1 year ago
i would start from 4 and slowly move towards a godly being when i get used to a thought of being more than me. right now i dont think that step 7 would be logical sense i would pretty much be immortal at step 6.
Kaljatynnyri 1 year ago
I wouldn't go beyond #3. As a biologist (and someone who discussed this with biologists smarter then me), I have a hard time trusting #4. As amazing as technology may become, age is a natural thing we cannot escape, and with age come cell disintegration and diseases. People in the past didn't get diseases that people get today because they didn't get to such old ages.
The only way to escape ageing completely is transfer to inorganic form (computer or robots). But then we are not human anymore
shom16200 1 year ago
@shom16200
As a fellow biologist i like your point and quite agree. Although do you think that with future technology, inorganic matter WILL be altered enough so that it CAN continue to replicate without aging related consequences for a much longer period of time? Although i doubt myself that organic matter could ever reach the levels of immortality with inorganics - but even a few hundred years could be possible imo.
CrazyEurazion 1 year ago
I would go to 4. At 5-7, I worry about losing my consciousness. In other words, would it really be me experiencing reality or would I essentially be dead, experiencing nothingness, while some other machine with my memories and personality goes on existing?
BillTheWaterDrinker 1 year ago
I don't find the idea of an unambiguous hive-mind compelling, but up until that point, why not.
Daealis 1 year ago
I wouldn't entirely mind being a god
DastardlyDimwit 1 year ago
DastardlyDimwit otherwise known as God...Yup, has a ring to it.
2bsirius 1 year ago
@2bsirius what ??
FIGHTFANNERD3 9 months ago
@DastardlyDimwit a god? like there are many? lol ignorant fool, you'll spend an eternity in hell if u choose the transhumanist route
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
@illfaderbehaviour
i really hope your kind stick to their ignorant ways when the time comes. you knuckle-dragging disgraces have held back our race since the dawn of the thinking man, and you don't deserve the fruits of logic and science, since you have shunned them to further your selfish needs and lie away your fears.
i hope you all reject the great marvels the singularity brings, and you die just as all the purveyors of ignorance did before you.
Robstailey 1 year ago
@Robstailey well, your a really nice person then aren't you. i'm glad i'm nothing like you.
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
@illfaderbehaviour your the one who his following an evil god who damns people to hell.
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@fishtankbank no, i live in an elitist world where the leaders want to create hell on earth. everything humans ever touched turned to shit, why should this be any different?
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
@illfaderbehaviour dDo you follow the Christian god? Chances are you do, and that would mean you are following an evil god. You know he killed more than two million people in the bible and ordered that unborn babys be cut from there mothers womb. That sound pretty evil to me. "why should this be any different?" What are you scared of? If you dont like it doent participate. its that simple.
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@fishtankbank whichever religion u follow, science is the only god but its the devil in disguise. dont participate! when the world is run by cyborgs i wont have a choice. 'non conformists' will be branded a threat. dont be naive, its not the utopia we all seek, its the road to hell, i use that word to discribe a world of enslavement, nothing to do with the bible. they wont need cctv in u're house when u have a camera for an eye or u have 2 plug in to the hive mind every night to receive updates
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
@illfaderbehaviour i dont follow a religion. "when the world is run by cyborgs i" you wont be anything youll be dead. " will be branded a threat" why would they? if everyone else is a cyborg and had superhuman ability they wouldn't be a threat. your insane, what about all these cell phones people have? They have microphones and transition capability's. They could be spieing on you man! and you hold it to your head!! THEY could be like controling your mind man!! oh shit spooky. "the hive mind"
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@fishtankbank if you haven't heard of the hive mind then you really need to be researching this subject a lot more before you can comment. you're listening to the propaganda and believing it. good luck, your going to need it!
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
@illfaderbehaviour I understand the hive mind, and to some extent we are already there. You watched to much star trek. "good luck, your going to need it!" ya ok, ill try not to become a borg next week. What are you talking about? This shit most lickly wont even be happening in our liftimes so chill, you have nothing to worry about.
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@illfaderbehaviour "you're listening to the propaganda" Propaganda? sure because there are trans-humanist flyers flying from the sky and left in every bus ive ever been on. Get real
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@fishtankbank films like iron man, transformers, the latest terminator features a transhuman, Xmen origins blatantly shows how the US government are doing human experiments in fusing animal genes with technology, all designed to give us empathy for machines. open your eyes instead of your sub concious
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
@illfaderbehaviour " iron man" Would you consider someone with a pacemaker trans-human? TERMINATOR was made to make us feel empathy for machines seriously? its about robots trying to kill all of humanity. It has nothing to do with transhumanism by the way"all designed to give us empathy for machines." do you think this is some kind of conspiricy?there made by seperate companies for the porpose of entertainment "open your eyes instead of your sub concious" what the hell is that supposed to mean?
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@fishtankbank we're clearly not even on the same level of intelligence. your hypnotised way too deep for me to even bother trying to teach you. you obviously need an upgrade. good luck, im bored of this conversation now.
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
@fishtankbank and in the last terminator christian bale plays a transhuman, WATCH IT! Iron man has an electronic heart, and yes, it is a conspiracy. WAKE UP!! for your own sake, the choices you make won't effect me.
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
@illfaderbehaviour ", it is a conspiracy" your a nut
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@fishtankbank how else are they going to create their new race?
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
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@illfaderbehaviour "how else are they going to create their new race?" you have no idea what transhumanism really is. Its not about making people into borgs without free will. If you get all your info from these fear mongering videos you whont come out with any real understanding of what trans humanism is about.
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@fishtankbank fishtank is not a nut
/watch?v=QEfnKiveAdo
Straightsix76 11 months ago
@DastardlyDimwit its a trap mate, non of us deserve to be god's, stop listening to your ego
illfaderbehaviour 1 year ago
4-7 sound lovely. Let's all focus on 4 for now ;)
MindfulFuture 1 year ago
5/6 sounds lovely.
MindfulFuture 1 year ago
3 sounds pretty decent.
mercenarydrunk 1 year ago
Technological advance should be maintained but human beings should remain as they are. Given that neuroscience has proven concepts like neuroplasticity (neuron adaptability) and neurogenesis (neuron birth) it is evident that human beings are advanced biological systems benefiting from experiences in the real world. As a psychology student hope humans stay human!
Tarcus82 1 year ago
Transhumanism is a big mistake, altered consciousness, power sounds like a recipe for addiction to me and addicts over time seek greater stimulation, as the law of diminishing returns kicks in this will lead to amoral people. Such technology could similarly be used to control or subjugate human beings to if an Orwellian future came to past.
Tarcus82 1 year ago
Number 7 sounds good.
TrueDudeX 1 year ago
I would choice number 7, but only if I retained the power to choose any of the other numbers at will as well. In simpler terms I want my choice to have the choice of doing whatever I want, of making multiple choices, whenever I please and as I seem fit. I want the right to even become a completely normal mortal human if I willed it.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
I would go for #7. I want to escape Fate and live as a formless infomorph who can live in a self-insert fanfiction.
TheUnknownPerson1100 2 years ago
#6, unless @ #7 I could still advance my program and transfer my code to a #6 being.
zerooneboy12345 2 years ago
I personally think that I would choose option # 5.
Maybe more but not immediately.
gammaXiOmega 2 years ago
I'd certainly as far as #6 and possibly to #7 depending on the transfer process.
HarpoonsTheMan 2 years ago
I would choose option #4
nadogi 2 years ago
all the way... next question.
TheReasonWhyGuy 2 years ago
6 sounds good for me, but if 7 was tested and stable, and we could effectively make a biggerm better universe with less constrains inside it, then 7 would be my choice, but as long as the rest of population goes that way too. I wouldnt wanna be some lonely file in a computer. =P
JamesHazBeHaiTyme 2 years ago
7 of course. Why rule anything out as a means of self-actualization before these options have even been researched in full?
I'd gravitate toward gene-modding tested for safety in a biomolecular computer simulation, though, before I might choose to leave biology behind entirely.
pbreyer 2 years ago
I would go as far as a tame version of 5, possibly even a tame 6, depending on the actual technological possibilities if and when that time came.
As the person I am right now (35yo), I would accept pretty much any medical advancements to prolong my natural life as long as my mental capacities were viable.
Number 7 seems illogical in that I do not believe that "you" can survive as an "upload". For the same reasons, teleportation would destroy "you" and create another one.
twothlesswonder 2 years ago
7 all the way, being able to manifest myself (or rather an arbitrary number of avatars of myself) in the physical world using nanomachines. I can then be in millions of places at once. My being will then coincide with my current values (tho those might change in unexpected ways themselves).
iCommentatez 2 years ago
My answer's kinda wierd. I would choose number 5, but omit the possibility of living forever in number 4. I accept 5 because I certainly have no problem with medical treatment and think enhanced cognitive ability is good. Even though I don't think of myself as such, I already am a machine, just with a consciousness. I stop at 5 because I want to maintain my physical body (rules out 7) and because, while I am not opposed to 6 for myself, I think that is too dangerous a power for anyone to wield.
synchronium24 2 years ago
I would go up to 6. I wouldn't mind any of it but I still want a physical body thats why I wouldn't go all the way to 7
bryong159 2 years ago
the technology is on the way
i would to 6 but 7 also
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 years ago
seven
isthereanythathasnt3 2 years ago
7) It is hijacking the next wave of evolution to ride to infinity and beyond the capacities and advantages of future software will be godlike. Even enhanced humans can only go thousands of times beyond their current limitations but computation can carry its self billions of times greater than biology ever could. Keep in mind that our great grandparents would be uncomfortable with the internet in the first place why buy from someone miles away when you cant even shake hands to seal the deal?
Shadowstar204 2 years ago
4.
5 is going to far. If you are linked mentally with other people, is it really you, or something else?
adamkyler 2 years ago
3 is pushing it. Want to keep it natural to a certain extent
bikinmatthew123 2 years ago
i think number 5 is good enough for me. I still want the remnant of humanity i have left in me.
BreadWinner06 2 years ago
7 Without a moments hesitation. I dream of endless learning and growing.
AAL 2 years ago
@AAL "I dream of endless learning and growth."
But would you still be you at that point. Certainly by #7, I think not.
synchronium24 2 years ago
I'm not the "me" I was at 3 or at 14 or even 30.
Why should I be afraid?
AAL 2 years ago
@AAL You still have memories of your past self and the beliefs you have come to aquire through experience. You still have a sense of identity--the self, that is. When merged into this conciousness you would completely lose that sense of self. Now, the concept of a self may be completely illusory, but it still is something very important to most of us. My point doesn't rule out #7 altogether, but anyone should be aware of the possible consequences before making such a decision as you describe.
synchronium24 2 years ago
Please explain how I would completely lose my sense of self.
I am merged with technology already (clothes, glasses, watch) and I don't feel any less human.
AAL 2 years ago
@AAL: You have clothes, a watch, etc. ON you, but they aren't changing your thoughts, memories, and perceptions (forget the bolded "on" as i guess their being inside or outside your body doesn't really matter).
A brain chip that merely enhances memory wouldn't change memory in the sense i'm talking about, it would merely improve recall of the ones you already have. However, some of the transhumanist tech changes your personality and skills to a point where evenyourformer self wouldn't know u.
synchronium24 2 years ago
I like number four. Five is intriguing, but I'm not sure if I want to leave my personality behind in the process. I'm also a bit paranoid about tinkering with my brain.
grits011 2 years ago
seveeeen
superjuandiego 2 years ago
8 (things we cant predict beyond 7)
alk222111000 2 years ago
*claps*
DauntProductions 2 years ago
definitely 6
maybe 7
lampedusa 2 years ago
i would go into the matrix as an avatar or if you red the singularity by ray kurzweil i would go to the 3.0 body version. a cloud of nanoparticles capable of change forms.
danielbooom 2 years ago
Yes, I've read Singularity...Interesting comment
2bsirius 2 years ago
5 . I wouldn't leave human genetics behind.
filix92 2 years ago
SEVEN
liloproduction 2 years ago
Number1.
I am immortal.
We all are immortal.
What we consider our bodies are not truly ourselves.
I will live out this experience as I have chosen it to be.
The extension of my mortal existence is pointless as I came into this life to experience myself as a mortal being with all the joys and sorrows contained therein.
If I have raised my frequency sufficiently I will reansform into the next dimmension of reality.
If I have not raised my frequency enough..."I'll be back".
Darkhorse21x 2 years ago
Atleast number 4. For more advanced merging I would wait and decide in the future.
nawitus 2 years ago
I'd want to be immortal. People talk of immortality as being a curse but you could put yourself into a temporary death/sleep for however long you want and then resurrect yourself. A thousand year rest every now and then i'm sure would blow away the cobwebs and give you a new lease of life :)
RPFS2008 2 years ago
@RPF S2008: Interesting idea, but I wonder if on an eternal time scale 1000 years would seem like barely a wink.
synchronium24 2 years ago
Though a skeptic (pyrrhonian, as in philosophy) I value experience and the appearances of what my senses tell me. Therefore, being mobile6 is a must, so I would instantly jump to 5, if not 6. If only I can answer Socrates when I invariably meet him in "hell." I just want what can be considered TRUE KNOWLEDGE. Personally, I may not want to skip to seven, though,as I have this irrational inability to shake dualism.
XTimes3GreaterThanU 2 years ago
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FIGHTFANNERD3 2 years ago
I would go for no. 7. The Human Body is too oppressive to be lived by anymore. And being part of a software rather than the physical seems like dreams come true (I don't even like real HUMAN females).
I think Mind Transfer is possible. The Mind is made up of evolving will just like everything in the universe, and what if we copy our wills and memories to an AI software? Time will tell.
MrJohnJamal 2 years ago
I would go for number 4, and if i'd became bored with living for centuries, i'd take 5,6,7, "upgrading" one number every 300 years. If you think about it, in generation or two, all developed world people would have 3, and some would be able to afford 4. This is going to happen, we like it or not. History shows us, that you can't stop science and tech. progress. Yeah we can stop transhumanist tech in EU and USA for example, but China, Korea, and Japan would have it in 20-30 years anyway.
8legsFreak 2 years ago
I'd stay up in the hills with my rifle,and a biiiiig box of ammo.
I'd resist the robots revolution,and send their masters all back down to the pit of hell.
TheOBAMATRON 2 years ago
Yours may be the best answer yet.
2bsirius 2 years ago
5, then after I'm content with the slight human experience, 7.
guyverman 2 years ago
LOL!!! your fucked then, we allrdy have theoretically proven designs of: a diamond(sp2 bonded carbon) skeleton, neodymium strength magnetic goo muscles(300x strength increase), couple that with the speed of an electrical current and the reflexes of a supercomputer and you have no chance in hell of even landing a bullet, and even if you could, it would take no less than a 30mm vulcan to stop even one super human of such designs.
guyverman 2 years ago
Whatever you say MacGyver.
But I still have my choices.
(They're a human thing)
TheOBAMATRON 2 years ago
And so shall I even at the 7th stage. Just because transhumanism gives YOU more control over your thoughts, it doesn't mean others will control them, or even want to. Whats the use of slavery when any task can be performed with non-human nanites? transhumanism means Immortality with unlimited knowledge: god. You speak of the pits of hell, why not embrace the attributes of god to know him?
guyverman 2 years ago
Your concept of "God" is twisted by about 180 degrees in the southern direction.
Your philosophy of "becoming God" is actually an old Luciferian idea.
But,as the devil himself even admitted:
"I shall become like he who is the most high."
Meaning he will only become "like" the most high,NOT the real article.
You too,can be a nimrod.
Also,if you believe that "Transhumanism" is about "freedom",you really haven't read the literature.
Don't give up on being human.
You could be worse:A robot.
TheOBAMATRON 2 years ago
Lucifer and god don't exist and yes we can become gods. Within 100 years transhumans can very well leave this universe, shift between dimensions, control time, matter and space; even create it. But I guess your reasoning is that if you try to match your god in strength then you should be punished: primitive and anti-progressive mindset.
guyverman 2 years ago
But a moment ago you were evoking God in your sales pitch.
You can't have it both ways.
Anyway,as I told you,I have made my choice.
Deal with it.
TheOBAMATRON 2 years ago
I know, I hoped the word "god" would work like it always does when selling an invisible product. The only difference here is that we have evidence for it. Oh well.
guyverman 2 years ago
Why would you want to "sell" it to begin with?
Doesn't the selling of your dogmatic ideology make you just like the religious folks?
As for a "visible" product?
In your little New Age sermon,you were rattling on with evangelical fervour about "creating matter" and "leaving the universe",and "shifting between dimensions",and "controlling time."
How can you sit there and then talk about "evidence" with a straight face?
TheOBAMATRON 2 years ago
In due time we may just learn everything there is to know of the multiverses, or perhaps whats beyond them. What I spoke of is very possible according to science. I see no problem in treating science as a religion and spreading it's sermon of a never ending quest for truth and knowledge. All I'm selling is truth for the sake of my species.
guyverman 2 years ago
No,your a pushy little dickhead who trips over himself with contradictions.
If you were so concerned for "your species",why would you want to turn them all into robots?
As for "science is my religion"?
Keep it.
Nobody said you can't have it.
Just respect the choices that other folks make about thier own beliefs,and everybody will get along just fine.
You wanna be a robot?
So be a fucken robot !
Be the biggest robot in the world for all I care.
Leave others to make up their own mind.
TheOBAMATRON 2 years ago
Robots?! Fuckin christ on a cracker! It's just not that fucking simple. Transhumanism is the next step in our evolutionary process and may very well be coaxed with organic materials. And no I will not respect lunacy, just tolerate it for the time being.
guyverman 2 years ago
See?
There your true colours show.
And you wonder why more folks aren't lured by your bullshit talk.
Its not about "science" or "saving the species" or "new horizons" or anything else on your list of sales-pitch terminology.
Its about your superiority complex,your "need to be right."
I mean,just look at how you can't leave a person alone after they've told you they aren't buying?
Your like a Mormon at the door.
I like your little veiled threat too.
Help !
The robot is coming....one day.
TheOBAMATRON 2 years ago
No I'm adamant on the issue because your trivializing the matter with your paranoia and superstition and its angering.
guyverman 2 years ago
See?
You "get angry" when someone doesn't agree with you.
You try your hardest to convert them but when you fail, you just throw a tantrum.