Hey Hen, got a big MFA crit today and I'm taking your advice to heart. If anyone questions my personal mythology, I'll thank them for their ignorance and tell them to turn down their 20 watts so they can see my shining star a little better!
cont.--Making great art often requires a great ego but in beuys case i sometimes feel his (at times) solipsistic pursuit of a mythologized persona to be contrary to his more utopian goals. Do u ultimately feel that his pursuit of ideals through social sculpture was successful/admirable?
@veuvecliquot i didn't see these comments earlier, sorry about that. in any event, this video isn't about the effectiveness of beuys' the utopian goals, its about highlighting the nature of his self-mythologizing as it relates the artist as a complete intellectual "commodity" for lack of a better word. and to me this is easily echoed by jay-z's self aggrandizement throughout his rap career, which is something i loved about jay-z for a long time, he has always himself as a myth unto himself. cont
@veuvecliquot about social sculpture. i do think its a very admirable project. producing art is a very insular practice and any attempt to bridge the gap between the studio and the places where art is consumed is a fantastic challenge to take on. but then the question of art's ability to seriously have a real world impact comes up in my mind. there are obviously more effective occupations one can take up instead of being an artist in handling societal problems, but i dunno, some people are
@HennesyYoungman OK well put. I never embraced beuys wholely, ..for the reason that i don't buy all of his talk, but as someone who laid the groundwork for future possibilities I give him his. In the specific works that i've seen, for instance Kassel; i thought his intentions did not succeed, however. ......Social sculpture is a laudable idea.....but come to think of it idk if the next step is that enviable--one can see its failings in relational aesthetics.
"King Louis [Ludwig] II had Hans H. sent away (from) his castles. His Majesty prefers you to this specialist of compositions for the flute. I can understand-if it is a matter of artistic choice. But is not the enthusiasm that His Majesty displays for you motivated by a political choice as well? I hope this question disturbs you as much as it does me. What ends do you serve, Wagner? Why? How?"
idk... the analogy dont really work that well. beuys used self aggrandizement and embellishment not only to further his status but perhaps also to distract from the fact he was a nazi soldier/that he had conformed to societal norms. the equivalent to jay would be like being a snitch and covering it up by saying you got shot by cops. u feel me?
and it aint like u cant get large by rejecting this formula. maybe g richter as a counterpoint to beuys represents an inverse to this equation.
@veuvecliquot i think beuys addressed being in the german army and the his country's nazi past all throughout his career, it was the impetus for alot of what he made, it's first being addressed in his auschwitz memorial proposal in the late 50's. in any event, you know i appreciate your input a great deal.
@HennesyYoungman the auschwitz memorial proposal is the main rebuttal to criticism which corrolates his romanticism and self mythology to proto-fascism. I would agree that this indictment/criticism of beuys is overly harsh, but i think it is erroneous to say he addressed his/his countrys nazi past throughout his career.
@veuvecliquot it could also be argued that Jay-Z as a drug dealer conformed to societal norms as a young Black man in this country, also participating in a form of genocide against his own people. Now through self-aggrandizement people hold him up as some sort of hero.
@damaliabrams I think that is valid, but in the case of Jay-z he does not present himself as a latter-day shaman with utopian ideals. Not to hate on beuys I'm just offering a diff opinion. @ hennesy i offered a further argument but i dont see it posted.....did u wanna drop the discussion or maybe my added comments didnt post from error.....?
Thanks for the shout out for Bueys Hennesy he's one of my favorite artists. Interesting comparison between and him and Jay Z. What is the band performance clip from?
If your "trying" to become an artist, maybe your trying to hard bro. maybe you should become a teacher instead of an artists
ugartist 1 month ago
its INDIVIDIUAL MYTHOLOGY
I LOVE THIS POST YOU DID pHAROAN hENN
akoione 1 month ago
I just can't get enough! LOVE SIR HENNESY
katurahthomas 4 months ago
My wife and I love your videos!
How about exploring the theme of former grafitti artists transitions into the "real" art world?
soysos 10 months ago
Hey Hen, got a big MFA crit today and I'm taking your advice to heart. If anyone questions my personal mythology, I'll thank them for their ignorance and tell them to turn down their 20 watts so they can see my shining star a little better!
Thanks Professor Pharoah.
LizIsakson 10 months ago
love all your lectures. super smart and accessible and hip and funny. brilliant. thanks.
henner59 11 months ago
This just made think of Magnolia/Tom Cruise.
YOUsnozeYOULOZE 11 months ago
thank you
ashnfn 11 months ago
Excellent video. Comical, yet informative and interesting. Keep up the good work, you have one new subscriber.
StewartLucrative 11 months ago
@veuvecliqot compelled to deal with their world in their own way
HennesyYoungman 1 year ago
I have much respect for your thought process. keep it going!
jorgeisaac7 1 year ago
I'm telling everyone about this.
victorp3 1 year ago
cont.--Making great art often requires a great ego but in beuys case i sometimes feel his (at times) solipsistic pursuit of a mythologized persona to be contrary to his more utopian goals. Do u ultimately feel that his pursuit of ideals through social sculpture was successful/admirable?
veuvecliquot 1 year ago
@veuvecliquot i didn't see these comments earlier, sorry about that. in any event, this video isn't about the effectiveness of beuys' the utopian goals, its about highlighting the nature of his self-mythologizing as it relates the artist as a complete intellectual "commodity" for lack of a better word. and to me this is easily echoed by jay-z's self aggrandizement throughout his rap career, which is something i loved about jay-z for a long time, he has always himself as a myth unto himself. cont
HennesyYoungman 1 year ago 2
@veuvecliquot about social sculpture. i do think its a very admirable project. producing art is a very insular practice and any attempt to bridge the gap between the studio and the places where art is consumed is a fantastic challenge to take on. but then the question of art's ability to seriously have a real world impact comes up in my mind. there are obviously more effective occupations one can take up instead of being an artist in handling societal problems, but i dunno, some people are
HennesyYoungman 1 year ago 2
@HennesyYoungman OK well put. I never embraced beuys wholely, ..for the reason that i don't buy all of his talk, but as someone who laid the groundwork for future possibilities I give him his. In the specific works that i've seen, for instance Kassel; i thought his intentions did not succeed, however. ......Social sculpture is a laudable idea.....but come to think of it idk if the next step is that enviable--one can see its failings in relational aesthetics.
veuvecliquot 1 year ago
@HennesyYoungman
The letter...
"King Louis [Ludwig] II had Hans H. sent away (from) his castles. His Majesty prefers you to this specialist of compositions for the flute. I can understand-if it is a matter of artistic choice. But is not the enthusiasm that His Majesty displays for you motivated by a political choice as well? I hope this question disturbs you as much as it does me. What ends do you serve, Wagner? Why? How?"
ZeitOner 9 months ago
Knowledge. Respect.
revsteve 1 year ago
idk... the analogy dont really work that well. beuys used self aggrandizement and embellishment not only to further his status but perhaps also to distract from the fact he was a nazi soldier/that he had conformed to societal norms. the equivalent to jay would be like being a snitch and covering it up by saying you got shot by cops. u feel me?
and it aint like u cant get large by rejecting this formula. maybe g richter as a counterpoint to beuys represents an inverse to this equation.
veuvecliquot 1 year ago
@veuvecliquot i think beuys addressed being in the german army and the his country's nazi past all throughout his career, it was the impetus for alot of what he made, it's first being addressed in his auschwitz memorial proposal in the late 50's. in any event, you know i appreciate your input a great deal.
HennesyYoungman 1 year ago
@HennesyYoungman the auschwitz memorial proposal is the main rebuttal to criticism which corrolates his romanticism and self mythology to proto-fascism. I would agree that this indictment/criticism of beuys is overly harsh, but i think it is erroneous to say he addressed his/his countrys nazi past throughout his career.
veuvecliquot 1 year ago
@veuvecliquot it could also be argued that Jay-Z as a drug dealer conformed to societal norms as a young Black man in this country, also participating in a form of genocide against his own people. Now through self-aggrandizement people hold him up as some sort of hero.
damaliabrams 1 year ago
@damaliabrams I think that is valid, but in the case of Jay-z he does not present himself as a latter-day shaman with utopian ideals. Not to hate on beuys I'm just offering a diff opinion. @ hennesy i offered a further argument but i dont see it posted.....did u wanna drop the discussion or maybe my added comments didnt post from error.....?
veuvecliquot 1 year ago
ugh this is the best thing i have ever seen.
JulesssPerez 1 year ago
Thanks for the shout out for Bueys Hennesy he's one of my favorite artists. Interesting comparison between and him and Jay Z. What is the band performance clip from?
SABRENOSE 1 year ago
@SABRENOSE its a song he made for germany's green party. it's called sonne statt reagan
HennesyYoungman 1 year ago
fuckin like, like, like.
Interactivesystems 1 year ago
<3
saturnsays000 1 year ago
brilliant, as always
czarnaowca81 1 year ago
best video series on the internets.
keep em coming!
OrgulloCriolloTV 1 year ago