Wie immer würde es besser klingen, wenn dieser merkwürdige Mann in der Kantine sässe, anstatt das Stück kaputt zu machen...Furtwängler, Karajan, Abbado,....0
Listen to this first thing in the morning while eating breakfast..you're day will go so much better and you will function 10x more efficiently....beautiful music!!
Zu langsam! Wahrscheinlich, um die ganzen (gut durchgehörten) Details klar werden zu lassen. Das ist gut, geht aber hier zu sehr auf Kosten der Spannung. Sir Simon kann sonst auch beides!
Zu langsam! Wahescheinlich, um die ganzen (gut durchgehörten) Details klar werden zu lassen. Das ist gut, geht aber hier zu sehr auf Kosten der Spannung. Sir Simon kann sonst auch beides!
I am sorry, but the version is one and only: Schumann! And it should be played as Schumann wrote it or if you play it differently, you should call it the "Rattle" Symphony.
I am sorry (deeply), but there are two quite different versions of this symphony by Schumann himself. Rattle is performing the first one from 1841, Karajan always did the second from 1851. That's why I'm saying, you can't compare the two interpretations..
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compare this and furtwängler's interpretation with the berlin philharmonic; i'm just shocked to see how the typical german romantic sound has been destroyed throughout the years, especially in the last years with rattle
The "typical german romantic sound," as you call it, was never destroyed - it has simply evolved. Don't demean Rattle because you refuse to change with the times.
It is obviously both. Simon Rattle conducts here an earlier version of the Symphonie (which is different e.g. in terms of tempo and instrumentration), whereas Karajan always performed the final version from 1853.
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massimolioy 3 months ago
Who's principal violin here? I've seen him almost everywhere, he seems very talented! So I guess it's time to learn his name:P
ThePanpan7 6 months ago
@ThePanpan7 It is Daniel Stabrawa, 1st concertmaster with the Berliner Philharmoniker since 1979.
BerlinPhil 6 months ago
Wonderful!!!!! Great beautiful melody
avogadroatomlee 7 months ago
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niwanthiumara 9 months ago
Wie immer würde es besser klingen, wenn dieser merkwürdige Mann in der Kantine sässe, anstatt das Stück kaputt zu machen...Furtwängler, Karajan, Abbado,....0
Theodorakis4 9 months ago
@Theodorakis4 genau auch meine meinung. aber anscheinend sind die orchestermusiker ja mit ihm zufrieden.
orangboodoh 6 months ago
Furtwangler 1953 is all you need.
hutz 11 months ago
Jedi Mind Tricks - And So it Burns
QuanticEmpire 1 year ago
Glorious music gloriously played.
TimonofBath 1 year ago
This percussion is far from decent. A good percussion would make this perfect, almost to Karajan's level.
JMTaxus 1 year ago
Listen to this first thing in the morning while eating breakfast..you're day will go so much better and you will function 10x more efficiently....beautiful music!!
Harshal2DaG 1 year ago
This performance is terrible.
muslit 1 year ago
@muslit Why do you say that? Not that I'm disagreeing with you, just would like to know why you think so.
MHNmusique 1 year ago
@muslit would you be so grateful to tell us, why you think so?
MrConductor1984 1 year ago
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Zu langsam! Wahrscheinlich, um die ganzen (gut durchgehörten) Details klar werden zu lassen. Das ist gut, geht aber hier zu sehr auf Kosten der Spannung. Sir Simon kann sonst auch beides!
1985HC295 1 year ago
Zu langsam! Wahescheinlich, um die ganzen (gut durchgehörten) Details klar werden zu lassen. Das ist gut, geht aber hier zu sehr auf Kosten der Spannung. Sir Simon kann sonst auch beides!
1985HC295 1 year ago
SCHLECHT ! SCHLECHT ! SCHLECHT !
Theodorakis4 1 year ago
@Theodorakis4 für wen hältst du dich? Gott?
SchwarzeDose21 2 months ago
was the slow part at the beginning of the finale already included in the earlier version?
eek4rus 1 year ago
rattle es evolucion sonora a la filarmonica de berlin....que hermoso se escucha....despues de el r. muti...
intelectus1 2 years ago
Yo tengo mi interpretación favorita: Furtwängler con la Berliner Philharmoniker en 1953 DG mono : )
o0Prometheus0o 2 years ago
cura troppo i particolari,schumann travolge,incanta,piu' vitalita'
massimolioy 2 years ago
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Terrible interpretation. The reference for me is still the Karajan with the Wiener Symphoniker.
Champion1179 2 years ago
you can't compare it.. it's a completely different version of the piece!
MrConductor1984 2 years ago
I am sorry, but the version is one and only: Schumann! And it should be played as Schumann wrote it or if you play it differently, you should call it the "Rattle" Symphony.
Champion1179 2 years ago
I am sorry (deeply), but there are two quite different versions of this symphony by Schumann himself. Rattle is performing the first one from 1841, Karajan always did the second from 1851. That's why I'm saying, you can't compare the two interpretations..
MrConductor1984 2 years ago 5
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Tschaennis93 2 years ago
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compare this and furtwängler's interpretation with the berlin philharmonic; i'm just shocked to see how the typical german romantic sound has been destroyed throughout the years, especially in the last years with rattle
darchr90 2 years ago
The "typical german romantic sound," as you call it, was never destroyed - it has simply evolved. Don't demean Rattle because you refuse to change with the times.
junglemozart 2 years ago
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kdancat 2 years ago
The greatest of Schumanns symphonies!!!
SonofDostojevskij 2 years ago 3
just wonderful. thank you very much for uploading these. it's a dream of mine to watch the orchestra live, but until then, there's always youtube! :)
feste312 2 years ago 11
Is this a different text to the one Karajan used or is it merely a very different interpretation of the same text?
SpottyDorsord 2 years ago 4
It is obviously both. Simon Rattle conducts here an earlier version of the Symphonie (which is different e.g. in terms of tempo and instrumentration), whereas Karajan always performed the final version from 1853.
BerlinPhil 2 years ago 7
Danke schön, Frau Phil.
SpottyDorsord 2 years ago
And you know what?
Johannes Brahms loved this 1841 version much more than the revised version.
WagnerMahler 2 years ago 3
brahms also fell asleep at the premiere of liszt's piano sonata...
meagamon490 1 year ago
@BerlinPhil 1851 :)
remiqe 1 year ago
I would like to see Rattle and the BPO record the entire cycle which include both versions of #4
GregHales 2 years ago 4
wohoo
violintube1 2 years ago 2
Superb as usual. Thanks
pziglioli 2 years ago 7