The Sounding of the First Trumpet, Episode 1.

[korzon]

GOD said thru the Holy Spirit we understand and the Truth is uncovered.Meaning only who seek shall he open his eyes and obviously we need to be filled with the Holy Spirit.A third of the water might turn to oil it looks red and the fish die the rig was like a mountain on flame and thrown into the ocean.But where was the First trump then?Or is satan trying to have GOD come down early by destroying the earth now?This oil is a big problem eventualy it will kill us all if not stopped.

[beingther]

6 always means carnal man fallen natural earthly man has 3 parts body =6=carnal

6=the soul is in 3 parts mind emotions will all 3 are of the natural or carnal or adam nature

the spirit 6=unregenerate spirit

add it all up the number of a man is 666

[Thundercrack3]

The Bride of Christ is NOT the Body of Christ. You must first understand this. When the LORD spoke those words in Matthew 24 they were to...Jews. NOT the joint-Body of Christ made of Jew AND Gentile, without distinction. The Mystery of the Body of Christ was revealed to PAUL, (NOT the 12!) By the Risen Christ. The Rapture of the Body of Christ is for sure!

[keksinnot]

There is no separation between Jew and Gentile for both need Him.

You want me to debate without Gospels and OT? :

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Which day is he talking about? Read verse 1:

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

Also His coming isn't secret. (Rev 1:7)

[Thundercrack3]

There is TOTAL SEPARATION and DISTINCTION between Jew and Gentile in the Gospels AND the OT!! What bible are you reading. and Revelation 1:7 has NOTHING to do with the Body of Christ

[korzon]

@keksinnot Even Peter had a dream because he did not want to bring the gospel to the gentiles and GOD showed him animals and said eat and he said they were unclean that he never eaten them GOD said behold i make all things clean meaning go tell the Gentiles.The jews wanted to keep it to themselves obviously but GOD did not.Some people think the verse is about eating meat.

[keksinnot]

@korzon

Adobted Children have the same rules in the Family as those who are born to the Family, thus every Child of YHWH MUST keep the Torah (which is the Way/Path) by walking on it (the commandments are the signs)(Exo 18:20).

For YHWH's Throne is built upon the Law (Exo 25:21), and we go to His Works by walking through the Veil (the Body of Messiah).

However, our Father is Merciful to the adopted Children, they are not required to learn all the Rules of the Family in one day (Act 15:21).

[korzon]

@keksinnot The Holy Spirit guides us yes but we need to grow in GOD's Word to know the rules.We are adopted back we used to follow satan and diddnt even know it.Every day is an old part of me left behind and something is replaced.

GOD Bless

[korzon]

@keksinnot We just cant eat meat that is offered up to idols and none that are strangled as the meat thing goes.And that is in Acts right after the verse you gave me along with fornication.Pretty basic rules to say do them and you will be good to go.I would suspect GOD will do the rest he makes the seed actualy grow.

[korzon]

@Thundercrack3 We will be raptured when this is over because when he comes back all knees bow but not till then it seems.I know it said two in the field one will be taken but when comming as a thief in the night means we dont know when he comes.But when we start seeing the birth pains come then we know the time is soon.

[pokerdan85]

were going through the tribulation and following the last trumpet (the 7th and final trumpet) we will be raptured. then the current earth is made desolate and we arrive in New Jerusalem on a New Earth. where Jesus reigns for 1000 years with His saints.

[Thundercrack3]

Poker,

You might be going through the Great Tribulation but the Body of Christ is NOT! THe 7th Trumpet of Revelation 11 is the last of THAT SERIES of Trumpets. NOT the Last Trump absolutely. The Body of Christ hears the "Last Trump" associated with IT, when the LORD returns in the AIR to Rapture or Harpazo it's members. This will occur before the pages of the Book of Revelation even open.

[Thundercrack3]

Poker,

You might be going through the Great Tribulation but the Body of Christ is NOT! THe 7th Trumpet of Revelation 11 is the last of THAT SERIES of Trumpets. NOT the Last Trump absolutely. The Body of Christ hears the "Last Trump" associated with IT, when the LORD returns in the AIR to Rapture or Harpazo it's members. This will occur before the pages of the Book of Revelation even open.

[rossdaboss1959]

If u really wish to go through the tribulation good. But those that are filled with Jesus spirit will not. Romans 5:9-11. Revelation 3:10. The best thing to do is just hear what the pretrib people that are spirit filled have to say, before u just call it off as not true. U must realize that your eternal life depends on it. Just listen to what makes sense. Man's tribulations of the world is one thing, but the Great Tribulation is God's wrath on the earth, not his church. You'll see soon.

[pokerdan85]

believe what you will, but do not be disappointed when the antichrist reigns and the great tribulation occurs while you are still alive on the earth. Your faith will be tried by fire, and only the strong in Christ shall endure. then the resurrection of the dead and those saints who made it through the great tribulation will be called up with a loud trumpet and a voice from heaven. Then shall the world see the Lord in the clouds with His saints.

[Thundercrack3]

If only the STRONG in Christ endure...how would you reconcile that with the GRACE of God and the Gospel of Grace presented by the Holy Spirit, through the Apostle Paul's Epistles?

[korzon]

@Thundercrack3 It is given by Grace.Why do you call me Lord Lord and do not do what i say.He will turn and say he does not know you and it is because they were luke warm neither hot nor cold.We are told this is a Race and run it like only first place will do.We will be strong if the Holy Spirit is in our Hearts.He is not comming back till after the antichrist is revieled that he said the man of perdition must first be known but only if you have understanding.We need to endure his yolk is lighter

[maranatha805]

Rapture is not realy... It contradicts the WHOLE Bible thus not being true. What makes you think we wont suffer like Jesus and this apostles... i End wiht this

Apo 7:13 And one of the Elders answered, saying vnto mee, What are these which are arayed in white robes? and whence came they?

Apo 7:14 And I said vnto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and haue washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lambe.

[Thundercrack3]

This applies to The Bride of Christ but NOT to the Body of Christ which will be Harpazo'd as stated by Paul in 1 Thess. 4

[brovic777]

Rev 20: 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

[tygew]

Vic you went to seminary school, that's why your view is distorted by man. Rev is not speaking of the future. The man who was beheaded for Christ was John the baptist, aka Elijah.

The 1st resurrection for a Christian is salvation, the 2nd is at death. The 2nd death (judgment) has no sting on Christians. But for those who have never been born again, they die which is their 1st death, then judgment is their 2nd death; which hurts them.

Rev 2:11, 20:6, 20:14 & 21:8 all say hell is 2nd death

[Thundercrack3]

Ty,

You have UNBEARABLY distorted scripture...AND you are spamming this video which will NOT be tolerated...So keep your response to ONE comments length and we'll be fine...

Now...

You are mixing up the Bride of Christ Church with the Body of Christ Church...and that is just for starters. Have you even WATCHED any of our videos???

[Thundercrack3]

This is the resurrection of the Bride of Christ Church Members. The Body of Christ, Raptured before the Book of Revelation even opens, returns WITH The LORD (our Head) in Rev.19. Disposes of the enemies...then the 1st resurrection occurs and the Marriage of the Bride of Christ and the Body of Christ takes place. The Marriage Supper/Celebration is for 1000 years

[brovic777]

Rev 20 also proves the Pre-Trib view is false because the anti-christ beheads Christians who take part in the 1st resurrection.

Pre-Trib teaches the 1st ressurection takes place at the rapture at the start of the 7 year tribulation, which is contradictory to Rev. 20. in which those who got killed by the anti-christ took part in the 1st ressurection.

I learned this stuff in my New Testament class in undergrade, and also later in Seminary for my MA in Theology.

Pre-Trib was invented in 1850!

[Thundercrack3]

Look if you are not going to even read what my comment says and then just spew out what you learned through whatever school...I dont need you posting...

If you had read my comment you would not have written what you did. CAN'T you see that the Mystery of the Body of Christ was revealed to PAUL and NOT to the 12. That the Bride of Christ Church (to which the Apostles belong) is NOT the Body of Christ Church...it is as plain as day.

[raccoonz5]

Where in scripture has God ever took his people out of tribulation. God's people NEEDS the tribulation to crusify there flesh. There is no pre-trib rapture.

[Thundercrack3]

WHAT?!?!? A plethora of times...Enoch before the Flood, Lot before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah....just for example. Come on. Put your thinking cap on!

[raccoonz5]

No, those are judgement, not tribulations.

[Thundercrack3]

And what do you think the Day of the LORD is?? It's JUDGMENT!

[beingther]

@raccoonz5 wow how true bro pick up the cross and faloow him

[brovic777]

Another proof of Christ 2nd coming is the 1st Resurrection of the righteous, who even some were murdered by the anti-christ!!!

Rev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and those seated on them were given authority to judge. I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

[tygew]

Elijah already came as John, God turned to sin & Jesus to blood on the cross. The next thing to happen was the day of the lord which started when the lamb resurrected to become the Lyon before the throne; judging the dead at thier deaths; called the day of the Lord & last days

Jesus has four faces: One is as the son of man on the throne; the other is the Lyon before the throne; the other is as an angel, AKA the eagle; the other is as an ox or calf. All are God: on, around & before the throne.

[Thundercrack3]

What you are proposing is like asking a single guy when will he stop beating his wife.

Elijah was NOT Elijah..HE COULD HAVE BEEN...but alas...because of Israel's rejection of the Kingdom is NOT! "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:12-15

[Thundercrack3]

Please post comments that pertain to the video

[starlost1957]

Christian Body Builder

[brovic777]

Yea, I wonder how much he can bench press? LOL

[Thundercrack3]

I maxed at 425...

[brovic777]

Dang, and u don't even got long hair like Samson!!!!

[Thundercrack3]

LOL....

[brovic777]

I used to use steroids way back in the day, but only tried it for like 6 months. Went from benching 215 max to 315 in that short of time!!!! Got too scared when these big fat wars like pimples started appearing on my legs and stopped. :O

[Thundercrack3]

Well, it took me a LONG time to get there...I opted for the natural way...and it took quite a while...lol

[brovic777]

I agree, the natural way is the best way. Today, we got so many people pumping up on steroids, that they are even testing for it in high schools. Its the love of self, that drives them to use steroids.

If they just got a taste of the true Jesus, they wouldn't be searching for that something to fill their soul!!!!!!!!!!!

[tygew]

Hey Veeector! Now that I've got you on here and I see that you agree with Thundercrack; lets debate it out. No spamming and slandering just truth.

I sent you many private emails (that you don't read or understand lol) to show you that the day of the Lord began at the resurrection of Christ.

You both think that the day of the Lord is coming in the future as a rapture and destruction of the earth. But Peter said that he was in the last days when he heard people speaking in tongues in Acts 2

[brovic777]

The biggest proof of Jesus 2nd return is when Paul even warned that the Day of the Lord won't even happen till the apostasy of the church happens first, and the man of sin is revealed.

2 Thes 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first and the lawless one is revealed, the one destined for destruction.

This passage also proves that the pre-tribulation view is false, and that the rapture won't happen until after the anti-christ appears.

[Thundercrack3]

how does scripture dis-prove the Pre-trib Rapture of the Body of Christ?

[brovic777]

How does it disprove the Pre-Trib Rapture?

Paul says that 1st the church apostasy will happen. Then, the anti-Christ will appear. Unless these two things happen first he warns, the Day of the Lord cannot happen yet, and warns to now be deceived if somebody says otherwise.

Paul does not say we will be taken out of here first!

2 Thes 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first and the lawless one is revealed, the one destined for destruction.

[Thundercrack3]

ARGHHH you are SO dense!!!

Right the DAY OF THE LORD will not happen prior to that...BUT...the Harpazo is imminent! The Rapture or Harpazo needs NO prophetic fulfillment to occur...What did they teach you in this school you went to??? Amazing you can still write.

[brovic777]

At least I don't believe fantasy lies about the last days made up in 1850!!!!!!

Just like most Evangelicals, dumb sheep that believe whatever their Pastors say without taking the time to study the scriptures.

The stupidity of the sheep has been passed on and on since 1850!!!!

[Thundercrack3]

You are the stupid one for NOT researching this through. The Rapture was taught by PAUL. To whom the Mystery of the Body of Christ was revealed...(maybe if they let you read the scriptures in seminary class instead of the traditions of men you would know this. ) You are all balled up on this brother. You are confusing the Body with the Bride. They are NOT the same.

The rapture being developed in 1850 is a gnostic Jesuit lie. So there you have it.

[brovic777]

Yea, the Rapture was taught by Paul, but at the 2nd Coming of Christ at the end of the age.

I don't deny the Rapture at all. My point is that the Rapture will take place at the end of Revelation, which is what ur studying at Rev. 20.Why even bother to do this series if you believe we are NOT going to be here for all the trumpet blasts, and such. Its a waste of time because you think we're not going to be here.

[Thundercrack3]

I notice how you NEVER respond to what I ma saying...you are very diversionary

[konadave29]

Such in the days of Noah so shall it be in days of the coming of the son of man. Luke 17:26. I believe Horus was a nephilim based creature.

[Thundercrack3]

Well that is an interesting take...

[Thundercrack3]

You're coming in at the middle. Go back and watch Sections 1 and 2 of our Revelation Series...THEN you won't be confused

[Thundercrack3]

Mando...hit me up from our website. We'll talk more there. Here's is not the place.....

[piscesR2cool]

This is going to be a great series. Thank you.

[tygew]

Elijah already came as John the baptist; the moon (Jesus) already turned to blood; the sun (God) already became darkness (sin). The day of the Lord already began when Jesus became the Lion judging the dead from his resurrection til now, AKA last days, that day, those days, day of Jehojah etc. he end spoke of is death; the end of the world as we know it; when Jesus judges away corruption as it's remembered no more, forgotten, burned away as a purifier of silver. Mal 3:3. Death is the unknown hour

[Thundercrack3]

You are WAY off base. I even addressed your type of thinking in this very video.

[tygew]

You monitoring what I can post now? Wheres my other comments?

Did you watch my reply video yet?

[Thundercrack3]

Not yet but I will watch it

[tygew]

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