The people who talking shit about lenin is probally rich :) Stop talking about our dead comrades, look to the history how many people died and dying cause of capitalism, imperialism.
@pseudologic , Well freedom of speech is overrated if you think of it. if you have people running around saying '' Fight the government!'' or '' this government is terrible!'' then its going to spread and cause anarchy , chaos, and collapse of the host country. so in a way freedom of speech isn't all that amazing. it just sounds nice on paper. like capitalism. sounds good to everyone , except that half the people who support capitalism will never be rich like thos fucking greedy Ass wipes.
I remember this speech well. As a Communist Youth I had it on gramophone, studied it, learned it - now I am saddened to know that my childhood idols, Lenin & Stalin were utterly evil & despicable.
@freeman8128 How come Lenin turned out to be "utterly evil & despicable" from your point of view? I'm just a high school student who's read about Lenin in my history books, but from what I have gathered, he wasn't a tyrant or a bad guy.
@AminorArpeggio The murder of over 40 million people & the enslavement of many millions more began with Lenin - He was an utterly ruthless bastard who advocated political violence not only to overthrow the old regime but to build the new through one-party state - he called it 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat'. He believed that the end justified the means & that his version of 'paradise' could be built by force & slavery on blood & bones.
- Keep studying the terrible history of Bolshevism & USSR.
@AminorArpeggio The Soviet Union was built, & dependant, on a huge system of labour camps called 'Gulags'. Stalin is best known in connection with this but he was only continuing a system began by his mentor Lenin who he first met in 1902. In the 1980,s Gorbachov, attempted to liberalise Soviet Communism & closed the Gulags but the Soviet Economy collapsed. The history of Gulag is well documented, you might read 'Gulag Archipeligo' by Alexander Solzhenitsyn about his experience in a Gulag.
@stureremil1942 According to official figures released by the Soviet Government under Michail Gorbachov Ca 1989 (just before it ended) the figure was 43 million.
- Look it up yourself.
- now you are going to tell me that is a lie too. People like you only ever believe what you want to believe, regardless of the truth - That is exactly what is wrong & evil about Communists & why Communism always fails however many people it murders on the way (in Mao's case 78 million).
@stureremil1942 I have sent you the video 'The Mega-Killers' by NXSchell available also on YouTube & on my channel.
Of 212 Million political murders committed in the 20th. century, some 141.3 Million were committed by Communist regimes - the most prolific being China.
As for further links etc. if you are sincere you can do your own research; there is plenty of information out there. I am not your secretary: you are not paying me for this work & you are the person who wants to know more.
@stureremil1942 - Ask the Russian Government & other Agencies who published them to the world. As I said, whatever anyone tells you, you will only believe what you want to believe & call everything else a lie. Communists, Nazis & the Religious all have this weakness in common.
I was a Communist long ago: a Party Member & Activist. - There is a saying that goes like this:-
" A Communist at 18? Good: it means you have a heart. - Still a Communist at 40? Problem: it means you have no brains.
@stureremil1942 It appears that to continue this discussion is most unlikely to achieve anything worthwhile. I suggest you learn to cultivate courtesy and a rational, open mind.
Communism and socialism never failed. worked for over 50 years in russia, its still in cuba , and in china..well more or less in china... but still , the proletarian need to rise against this form of invisible oppression that is happening all around them , a man can buy a 50000 car while a average hard worker is in a shelter... this form of apathy needs to be crushed in order to establish common working laws of , main focus on a strong army of Reds, and large production of consumer goods.--Me.
@Evilsnowman2213 Cuba remained socialist despite the aggression from the US. As for those who don't like living in a socialist country, there will always be people who want to exploit others, and for them the equality is unbearable. But socialism should be combined with democracy and freedom of speech. Let those who want to argue against it do so. Let them leave and go to countries where slavery still exists. They will be back.
communism as an idea really is BRILLIANT but in implementation is a failure..why's that? 'coz idea evolved not static.. the problem with communism is the meaning of "the dictatorship of proletariate" it became "the dictatorship FOR proletariate" who wants to practice this must be a really HONEST person,hard working,dedicated his life to the people and have balls..in economy how communism can control PRICE of products? and how to ensure distribution of WEALTH among people?
So modern socialists and communists in many countries adapt these ideas. Marx and Engels' works are to communism what the origin of species is to the theory of evolution, noone refers to the origin of species for definite facts anymore do they? I believe in a direct democracy for the working class, where committees of workers who are democratically elected and can be recalled at any time are set up to look at the needs of the country and of individual states/province
In this way the economy is planned and controlled, and because of the nature of this system, money becomes obsolete. It should be noted, however, that this is a slow transition, and to directly implement it would cause the system to collapse, as Lenin found out in the early soviet union before he implemented NEP. The Russian economy simply wasn't well-developed enough to handle these immediate changes. However, when Stalin came to power, the Soviet Union turned into a dictatorship, a bureaucracy
@j4allen how about the mechanism of pricing ? will it dissapear automatically and completely ? so if communism implemented succesfully... what thing that we can use for trading ? do we barter or there's new mechanism to trade ? money as a barter mechanism and as a financial value is still important even in communist country..unless the communist economist could find the right formula to handle this kinda thing
Creepy it reminds me of the chanting from the ark opening scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark, or the UFO landing scene from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. A speech from a barbaric time not very long ago.
@dutchgangsta1 American so called communist are a bunch of fakes. They believe everything that is bad like incest should be legal including homosexual marriage in which real communists don't believe homosexualty is good. Real communist believe homosexualty is wrong and a medical condition. These fake Communist in America are just a bunch of anarchist and don't think we need laws to have a country function. Having laws are normal and they are good.
@dutchgangsta1 Without laws that aren't strong and enforceable then we would see each other kill each other. Without a military that protects a nation then you would be overrun and enslaved. These American communist are fake they think a nation dosen't need a military to protect a nation. They think we don't need a military so we can be overrunned. Every nation needs a military force to protect its internal affairs. I agree there will not ever be a american state.
polityka ktura prowadzil byla dobra na wieki powinien lezec w mozuleum!! putin ma racje ;a lenin nie z mardowal i zasluguje na szacunek od rosjan!!!!!!!!!!!zsrr zostala potega dzieki leninowi!!!!
Извините, вопрос не по теме. Вы тут не русские что ли? А то мне приходиться переводить ваши письмена с русского на русский! Или я что-то непонимаю, пардон!
well the way communist run the government is wrong. note i said GOVERNMENT, meaning i like the ppl but the corrupt government suppresses them. if lenin lived long enough to set all the standards for his government, he would have made something great. in fact the russian ppl still consider him a hero
@stalingradization It's because we've been conditioned all our lives to believe communism represents pure evil. It's to be feared. And the crazy thing about it is, they don't even tell us why.
@Bernstein1917 Maybe what i said was a bit of a hyperbole, i was over exaggerating. But what would motivate somebody to train in medicine for 6 years at university or to become a lawyer and study hard through all your a levels when you could just chill at home and get a job?
@pazzainit Well, under a Communist government, you still wouldn't be able to become a lawyer or a doctor without getting a degree, and that would still take considerable effort on your part. Additionally, contrary to popular belief, Communism both in theory and practice does not call for everyone to be paid the same amount, but rather for a greater equity of wages within specific careers. Additionally, no government official should be paid more than the most highly skilled worker.
Communism doesn't tell people to have the EXACT same salary, it must exist some kind of gap so people would be motivated but these that contribuate to the socity should of course be rewarded more than someone that doesn't.
@defiler554 I dont listen to it I just come here to tell people like you that you are an ASSHOLE and a piece of SHIT. I know you sorry red pieces of shit gather here so I am covering alot of commie idiots with one sentence
OH GOD don't you people see that communism and capitalism are both dangerous and harmful? Communism ruined the world and Capitalism is runing it....I used to fall for the communist side and defend mad dictators like Lenin but then I realized communism was bad BUT so was/is capitalism
i completely agree. i believe one philosopher actually wrote about how he wanted smaller states rather than large countries so that it would b like a community with everyone working for the benefit of each other.
tell me...how could communism ruin the world when there wasn't a communist state in the 1st place. It's the evil rulers like stalin that ruined communism for us and now we are discriminiated for their failures
oh don't give me that crap that there wasn't a communist state Lenin set one up in 1917 and really fucked a lot of people over to take power for himself.
He used terror and autocratic rules to supress his so-called great political views.
World Revolution is the only solution for Marx peace, order, dignity, justice, humanity & equality to vastly improve conditions for future generations. The less than 1% ruling class Capitalist brutality has failed the masses by betraying us into widepread chaotic poverty striving in declining desperation just to make ends while the elite continues to benefit in their regressive, right wing status quo dogmas in most countries like here, Mexico and Singapore where socialist voices are crushed!
There's a Lenin statue from the old USSR in Seattle, WA here in the USA and it's sitting about fifty feet from a Taco Del Mar. A real up yours to Lenin/Communism is what I take that as.
The Lenin statue had a skirt on it during gay pride week. Was freaking hilarious.
@loveliberty1776 No way, communism is the best way to run things, im sorry your saying capitalism works, great idea, the poor stay poor and the rich get richer.
@13ReallyRandom13 yes, that is true...-when we are under a republican leadership. Every government type has its flaws. Why, the USA sets a record every year for the longest lasting democratic country, simply because capitalism isnt a very sucsessful government type.
@13ReallyRandom13 Haha you should tell him lots of things work. Killing off 6 million jews worked for the germans. Was it right? No and most of the big time capitalists were anti semites. Walt Disney and Henry Ford were. Much of the time the capitalists use the jews as a hate figure. It's not hard or it wasn't back then due to the protocols being written.
Central bank monetary inflation is the biggest driver off the differential between rich and poor. Central banks are also fundamental to socialist theory.
@13ReallyRandom13 In capatalism, the poor have an opportunity to become rich. by freely opening a buisness or whatever means. The rich do get richer, but the poor still have opportunities, they do not stay poor.
Nonsense, even so if it were true the Chinese masses are still poverty stricken. Marxism is a low, the height of opposing human nature. Humans innately want and desire.
@13ReallyRandom13 No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
@joaquinveyron The idea is beautiful, and I respect that people wanted change and had a revoloution to get what they wanted. Look at Cuba no-one forced them, the people wanted to. I think you find the biggest military forces that were ever created are from communist countries. You have been filled with capilitist propaganda, yet I ask you what freedom's remain due to the terroist act, how can we express ourselves without being monitered, why are we part of this shitty system. We do nothing
@13ReallyRandom13 What a piece of BS are u talking?? Cuba, no one forced them???? R u f%%ng kidding???? OK, let s organize a demonstration in Havana to start a discussion about Castro. Let s see how long this will remain good.
"The idea is beautiful, " Ah, yes?? The communists is an failure in theory and practice. I don t respect communists. At best, comm. are merely mentally challenged people who buy in this complete nonsense.
@13ReallyRandom13 Why communism always will end (or already start) as a brutal dictatorship? That's obvious, boy. Men are NOT equal. They are equal in terms of rights, yes. But not in terms of capabilities, motivation, efforts, talents, skills, character etc. You need a brutal dictator in order to hammer the doctrine of uniformism over individuality. If you want everybody to be equal you need to abolish individual rights. You need to control individuums by power.
@NKA23 IT Does. At least that s the result of communism. If you are only one inch away from what you are supposed to think, say or do, you are pushed into line immediately (if you are not sent off to a gulag or shot directly).
@NKA23 Ah, really?? If so, then these camps had/have nothing tro with the death machine of the communists that killed people in the tens of millions.
"Communism is a sociopolitical philosophy, ideology and as such it can be misused."
Yes, it can and it always has been misused, bcs communism is totalitarianism. It only can be put into practice as dictatorship. It is the opposite of freedom of the individual.
Stalin made it to it and after that he was copied again and again...
To say that communism is totalitarism is like saying that capitalism was totalitarism because there were MANY dictators in capitalistic nations as well.
The camps in siberia have a long, long history...the Russian emperors, the czars used them long before Marx and Engels.
@NKA23 As you rightly stated, communists aim for a classless society, by abolishing private property (and socialize it) and to distribute the socially generated GDP equally. So the individual needs to surrender his will and freedom to the collective. This only can be achieved by force and violence dictatorship.
"The camps in siberia have a long, long history" People weren't killed in the tens of millions. It s like saying anti-semitism isn't part of Nazis, bcs this also existed before them.
But anti-semitism before the nazis was more like "jews get out!" not like "you´ll get a shower over there, now put off your clothes and get in!", if you know what am saying.
Bullshit. There were many bloody progroms all over the centuries in almost all countries.
Labor camps in Siberia prior to communism (if there were any at all) had no comparison to the gulag in the Soviet Union, both in quantity and quality.
It only can be conceived as a totalitarian dictatorship from a theoetical perspective. In practice ALL communist regimes were totalitarian.
"saying that capitalism was totalitarism "
No, in theory and practice the individual rights and freedom are pronounced in capitalism. It is a system based on individual freedom, private entrepreneurship and pursuit of happiness.
@NKA23 "were MANY dictators in capitalistic nations as well."
Ah, really?? And they were WHO?? HItler was a dictator of national SOCIALISM. If an African rotten country is taken by a dictator, what do you want to say with that??? THat political chaos creates dictators?? That's news!!
Hitler´s party called itself "national socialistic" but that that has little to do with socialism....don´t take a 80yo PR trick for real...the German society still remained capitalistic.
@NKA23 Complete bullshit. Socialism means that private rights and freedom are reduced/abolished in favor of a socialized entity i.e. community/society. In socialism economic, cultural, and even private life are governed, controlled, influenced even dictated by a big omnipotent government/regime. Therefore there was little capitalistic about Hitler's Germany. The economy was dictated by the regime. Private entrepreneurism was driven out.
@NKA23 'Nope, it doesn´t...that´s what Stalin, Mao and co. made out of it."
Yep, and whenever communist is put into practice some other asshole will come and establish a dictatorship, be it Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Kim Jong Il, Ceaucescu, Pol Pot, Honnecker, Castro, ... there was not ONE communist country that was not a dictatorship.
@NKA23 What is good about the idea anyway?? The idea is equality i.e. that the lazy and dumb has as much as the highly motivated and the hard working person. This is what is called 'social justice' in communism/socialism. I call it social injustice.
As long as man does not change, communism will never work. It relies on the strong being charitable, but at the same time on the weak honestly trying to do his best (and not faking being 'weak'). The human reality is that humans are lazy by nature.
The idea is a society without classes in which ALL benefit from the wealth of the nation, not only the upper ten percent....the idea is a world without borders, a world where every one is TREATED equally.
When we have the technology to have all "lower" work done by machines, we have to find another form of society than that of a competition of everybody against everybody else or there will only be stinking rich people living in "paradise" and poor people starving in the streets.
@NKA23 The West is a free and open and principally classless society. You are equal by law (at least officially).
"the wealth of the nation,"
The wealth is generated by those who take risks, who invest their money and themselves into sth. who work hard, who are innovative, what possible justification might be there to force them to be equal in terms of outcome to those who are lazy, stupid and dumb???
@NKA23 "When we have the technology to have all "lower" work done by machines"
Ah, really and who invented these machines??? Who brought this technology around??? in many countries, Germany and Japan, most of the menial jobs are automatized. That's why you can pay the workers also much more than what a workers earns in Eastern Europe, China, etc.
In Germany, if you are poor, you get your housing paid by the state, and a financial allowance to finance your living. Who starves on the street?????? In communism, the economy was this weak, that either people starved to death in the millios or had to queue-in for hours in order buy a loaf of bread in the super market. What the fuck are you talking about????
I'm talking about the near future, when manual labor will be done by machines completely and many other jobs as well.
If we don't reform our society, the state won't be able to pay the jobless anymore...people will be left alone.
In Germany (and all other "western" nations) there are more and more rich people and more and more poor people while the middle class is disappearing slowly.
This will end in a world wide social catastrophy...
@NKA23 "hen manual labor will be done by machines completely "
If you understand the technology and engineering behind automation technology, then you know that most of the tasks cannot be done completely by machines, since this would require articifcial intelligence, which is not available yet and neither in the near future.
"In Germany (and all other "western" nations) there are more "
Bullshit, Germany and "Western" nations risk getting overtaken by countries like China and India, since people get too lazy, too depending on the welfare system of the state. The mentality is what one can get from the state and not what you can do to better the society.
52 % of the federal bugdet in Germany is spent on the social welfare system. The consequence: more and more people get dependent on social welfare.
@NKA23 Äyou are still VERY poor when receiving ALG II."
You get more than you need to survive. What do you expect??? To go to Malle 3 times a year, to drive a BMW and MErcedes, while not working at all???
That's it: instead of trying to better your situation and qualifying yourself, investing yourself and trying to get a job or create your own company, you are only asking what you can get from the state. Pathetic. That's exactly the reason why ecnomy sucks in all communist countries.
Well, I am not even jobless...but I don't mind that 52% of my tax money are spend on the socially weak.
And about that "more than you need to survive"-thing....you get your housing paid, your costs to keep your place warm and your health insurance...but to life a life worth living you need more money than just for food and a dry, warm place if you life in our society.
I'm not talking about BMWs but being able to take part in cultural aspects of society for example.
@NKA23 "to take part in cultural aspects of society for example."
You mean, drinking 2 l of whiskey every day?
"ut I don't mind that 52% of my tax money are spend on the socially weak."
It s even more. Ah, really then ask this question a family father who needs to feed his family. If it were the socially weak, then it would be ok. You support those who are not willing to work.
And I like my tax money rather giving to poor people than to rich assholes from the weapon industry...they earn 30billion € every year while education PLUS science only get 10billions by the state.
Without more money for education and science there won´t be more highly educated people for the industry and there won´t be any more new jobs.
But hey...maybe the US will invade Iran and we end up with WWIII...after that there will be too much work for too little people...or no people at all.
@NKA23 Ah, really, why don t you make use of an academic thinking and arguing that is supposed to be based on facts, arguments and logical stringence?
@NKA23 Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitome of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
@joaquinveyron (part 2) because we like our standard of living, we know things are bad but it's in our interest to stay how we are. Communists stood up too the world and gave up that standard of living to untie as one person. You should watch Zeitgiest and the Love Police (google it).
@13ReallyRandom13 Capitalism brought wealth to a large part of the population. Competition, innovation, increasing productivity effectively ended the misery workers had to live in in the 19th century. Why is it that large packages of social securities can be paid to workers? Bcs capitalism brings productivity and wealth. Those who screamed the loudest about exploitation of workers did the least to come over it. If u like or not, capitalism made an end to the social misery of workers.
@13ReallyRandom13 And talking in economic terms, it is also clear that communist economies must fail. This is clear in theory and spectacularly much more in practice. First top down planning by bureaucrats only can be highly inaccurate and unrealistic (see Mao's Great Leap Forward), so extremely bad economic decisions are made. Secondly and more importantly, any private initiative and entrepreneurship is abolished which drives an economy. After nobody cares about nothing.
@13ReallyRandom13 I don't have to theorize. In practice, the picture crystal clear. Western economies leap frogged in terms of productivity, wealth being creating (with a participation of the vast majority), innovation, technology, u name it, while the vast majority in communist countries lived in utter poverty, but I am sure I don't have to get into detail here. U know it. Capitalism, which is a free market system that allows private property and freedom, brought economic & political freedom
@joaquinveyron: My intent is to have an intellectual exchange, rather than say which system is better. But you have to admit that the USSR in 1957 was a hell of a lot more advanced than the backwards Russia of 1917, despite having survived a bloody revolution and 2 of the worst wars the world has witnessed. Their technological improvements and ability to educate a backwards peasantry are acheivements that even you must acknowledge.
@13ReallyRandom13 It was terrible how children and the people was brainwashed into worshiping him, because of Stalin and Brezhnev for their own purposes. He was a good speaker and an idealistic man, and it it upsets me that after his dead he was like a mascot to the Stalin's sick goverment, which murdered over 30 million citizens. Lenin actually said that Stalin should not be ever elected as the head of the Soviet Union. Lenin was a man of peace.
@13ReallyRandom13@13ReallyRandom13 It was terrible how children and the people was brainwashed into worshiping him, because of Stalin and Brezhnev for their own purposes. He was a good speaker and an idealistic man, and it it upsets me that after his dead he was like a mascot to the Stalin's sick goverment, which murdered over 30 million citizens. Lenin actually said that Stalin should not be ever elected as the head of the Soviet Union. Lenin was a man of peace.
i hear your pain i'm from venezuela we have a socialist leader and comonly i have been insulted and called names on this tube from people that don`'t even live in venezuela. i feel your pain, fellow russian
I would not worry about this. The mere fact that we draw all kinds of attention from apologists of capitalism just proves they recognize us as a threat (the capitalists invest a lot of time and money blackening the image of communism for a reason).
I also find their attempts to flame people online rather amusing. Do they seriously think they are going to stop any of us with their petty flaming and trolling?
The truth is somewhere in the middle. Between capitalism and communism.
At the moment it is wild capitalism.. while it should be social capitalism.. We should not treat each other like machines - which was inserted into us after the industrial revolution - but like people..
When you kill the dragon, you give birth to another dragon! That was the world history has proved! You can not build anything good on someone else's blood. Soviet Power has established itself on the wave of the Civil War, where a son could be against a father, a brother against a brother, which is unnatural and tragical. That was the beginning of the end of the implementation of very progressive social ideas... Lenin was a Genius but could not oversee the consequences...
I mentioned human nature meaning humanism, and future societies ought to be build on the humanistic principles, and this is the matter of human race further development both social and biological...
I grew up in USSR and now live in Canada. I have been less brain washed in past than now. Capitalism has no future, it is against of human nature. All transformations that is happening informer USSR -historical regression towards either absolute monarchies, or national chauvinistic anarchism. On the contrary, Democracy is very complicated issue to be resolved with such simple division as private or collective ownership
Mistranslatoin in the title - vlast' means power, not government (gosudartvo)
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@gspaulsson sorry, gosudarstvo
gspaulsson 2 weeks ago
Suck my cock Lenin!
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Shakespeare said: "The way to the hell is paved with the good intentions" and he was right I think...!!!
P.S. I lived under comunist regim and I hate fascists too, comunism is against THE GOD .... I am CHRISTIAN for your knowledge!!!
parausanu 5 months ago
jj Lenin to byl aspon pořádný člověk
jura338 6 months ago
Lenin forever
zj1233432 7 months ago
Do you smell that? It's the smell of freedom and equality. Glory to Lenin!
0roekeltje0 7 months ago
He has a sexy voice...Just saying.
hitlerfishiscoming4u 7 months ago
The people who talking shit about lenin is probally rich :) Stop talking about our dead comrades, look to the history how many people died and dying cause of capitalism, imperialism.
webhancherx 8 months ago
i want communism in america!
indeankrehel 9 months ago 2
Communism is the only answer, we must apply Lenin's ideas to western culture.
sreiter9206 10 months ago 5
@sreiter9206 i agree
mac10films 8 months ago
@sreiter9206 you mean karl marx not lenin dipshit. God damn commies are more stupid than heavy right wingers.
tehatemachine 3 months ago
@pseudologic , Well freedom of speech is overrated if you think of it. if you have people running around saying '' Fight the government!'' or '' this government is terrible!'' then its going to spread and cause anarchy , chaos, and collapse of the host country. so in a way freedom of speech isn't all that amazing. it just sounds nice on paper. like capitalism. sounds good to everyone , except that half the people who support capitalism will never be rich like thos fucking greedy Ass wipes.
Evilsnowman2213 1 year ago
I remember this speech well. As a Communist Youth I had it on gramophone, studied it, learned it - now I am saddened to know that my childhood idols, Lenin & Stalin were utterly evil & despicable.
freeman8128 1 year ago
@freeman8128 How come Lenin turned out to be "utterly evil & despicable" from your point of view? I'm just a high school student who's read about Lenin in my history books, but from what I have gathered, he wasn't a tyrant or a bad guy.
AminorArpeggio 8 months ago
@AminorArpeggio The murder of over 40 million people & the enslavement of many millions more began with Lenin - He was an utterly ruthless bastard who advocated political violence not only to overthrow the old regime but to build the new through one-party state - he called it 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat'. He believed that the end justified the means & that his version of 'paradise' could be built by force & slavery on blood & bones.
- Keep studying the terrible history of Bolshevism & USSR.
freeman8128 8 months ago
@freeman8128 I knew he was politically ruthless but I didn't know he was affiliated with slavery.
AminorArpeggio 8 months ago
@AminorArpeggio The Soviet Union was built, & dependant, on a huge system of labour camps called 'Gulags'. Stalin is best known in connection with this but he was only continuing a system began by his mentor Lenin who he first met in 1902. In the 1980,s Gorbachov, attempted to liberalise Soviet Communism & closed the Gulags but the Soviet Economy collapsed. The history of Gulag is well documented, you might read 'Gulag Archipeligo' by Alexander Solzhenitsyn about his experience in a Gulag.
freeman8128 8 months ago
@freeman8128 'Gulag Archipeligo' by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. This is not science work.
stureremil1942 8 months ago
@freeman8128 What 40 millions? This is lie!
stureremil1942 8 months ago
@stureremil1942 According to official figures released by the Soviet Government under Michail Gorbachov Ca 1989 (just before it ended) the figure was 43 million.
- Look it up yourself.
- now you are going to tell me that is a lie too. People like you only ever believe what you want to believe, regardless of the truth - That is exactly what is wrong & evil about Communists & why Communism always fails however many people it murders on the way (in Mao's case 78 million).
freeman8128 8 months ago
@freeman8128 Give me link for this figures.
stureremil1942 8 months ago
@stureremil1942 I have sent you the video 'The Mega-Killers' by NXSchell available also on YouTube & on my channel.
Of 212 Million political murders committed in the 20th. century, some 141.3 Million were committed by Communist regimes - the most prolific being China.
As for further links etc. if you are sincere you can do your own research; there is plenty of information out there. I am not your secretary: you are not paying me for this work & you are the person who wants to know more.
freeman8128 8 months ago
@freeman8128 How estimated these numbers?
stureremil1942 8 months ago
@stureremil1942 - Ask the Russian Government & other Agencies who published them to the world. As I said, whatever anyone tells you, you will only believe what you want to believe & call everything else a lie. Communists, Nazis & the Religious all have this weakness in common.
I was a Communist long ago: a Party Member & Activist. - There is a saying that goes like this:-
" A Communist at 18? Good: it means you have a heart. - Still a Communist at 40? Problem: it means you have no brains.
freeman8128 8 months ago
@freeman8128 You have a brain? Give me links for sources. Simple task.
stureremil1942 8 months ago
@stureremil1942 It appears that to continue this discussion is most unlikely to achieve anything worthwhile. I suggest you learn to cultivate courtesy and a rational, open mind.
Goodbye.
freeman8128 8 months ago
HAIL LENIN!
that guy was was even cooler than MARX.. and he was unbelievable.
WORKERS UNITE FOR A COMMUNIST WORLD!!!
ColonelKusak 1 year ago
Lenin is Moses, !!!!
sova3083 1 year ago
Communism and socialism never failed. worked for over 50 years in russia, its still in cuba , and in china..well more or less in china... but still , the proletarian need to rise against this form of invisible oppression that is happening all around them , a man can buy a 50000 car while a average hard worker is in a shelter... this form of apathy needs to be crushed in order to establish common working laws of , main focus on a strong army of Reds, and large production of consumer goods.--Me.
Evilsnowman2213 1 year ago
@Evilsnowman2213
Amen Brother
trev8200 1 year ago
@Evilsnowman2213 Cuba remained socialist despite the aggression from the US. As for those who don't like living in a socialist country, there will always be people who want to exploit others, and for them the equality is unbearable. But socialism should be combined with democracy and freedom of speech. Let those who want to argue against it do so. Let them leave and go to countries where slavery still exists. They will be back.
Pseudologic 1 year ago
communism as an idea really is BRILLIANT but in implementation is a failure..why's that? 'coz idea evolved not static.. the problem with communism is the meaning of "the dictatorship of proletariate" it became "the dictatorship FOR proletariate" who wants to practice this must be a really HONEST person,hard working,dedicated his life to the people and have balls..in economy how communism can control PRICE of products? and how to ensure distribution of WEALTH among people?
IndoAtheist 1 year ago
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@IndoAtheist
watch?v=OE1nJJBoxvk&feature=related
Nothing more need to be said.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@IndoAtheist
So modern socialists and communists in many countries adapt these ideas. Marx and Engels' works are to communism what the origin of species is to the theory of evolution, noone refers to the origin of species for definite facts anymore do they? I believe in a direct democracy for the working class, where committees of workers who are democratically elected and can be recalled at any time are set up to look at the needs of the country and of individual states/province
j4allen 1 year ago
In this way the economy is planned and controlled, and because of the nature of this system, money becomes obsolete. It should be noted, however, that this is a slow transition, and to directly implement it would cause the system to collapse, as Lenin found out in the early soviet union before he implemented NEP. The Russian economy simply wasn't well-developed enough to handle these immediate changes. However, when Stalin came to power, the Soviet Union turned into a dictatorship, a bureaucracy
j4allen 1 year ago
@j4allen how about the mechanism of pricing ? will it dissapear automatically and completely ? so if communism implemented succesfully... what thing that we can use for trading ? do we barter or there's new mechanism to trade ? money as a barter mechanism and as a financial value is still important even in communist country..unless the communist economist could find the right formula to handle this kinda thing
IndoAtheist 1 year ago
most people live in capitalism coz they`re too poor to move lol
louiscfc93 1 year ago
Please please please post this with English subtitles
DonPatsy 1 year ago
when?
DonPatsy 1 year ago
Creepy it reminds me of the chanting from the ark opening scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark, or the UFO landing scene from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. A speech from a barbaric time not very long ago.
Nazizombiesdie 1 year ago
@ShirleyLimpdick all i can tell you is a great communist state will rise again and i am looking foward to that
dutchgangsta1 1 year ago
@ShirleyLimpdick these asian communist states are not truly communist and what do you mean by an american will an american communist state will rise?
dutchgangsta1 1 year ago
@dutchgangsta1 American so called communist are a bunch of fakes. They believe everything that is bad like incest should be legal including homosexual marriage in which real communists don't believe homosexualty is good. Real communist believe homosexualty is wrong and a medical condition. These fake Communist in America are just a bunch of anarchist and don't think we need laws to have a country function. Having laws are normal and they are good.
v19d 1 year ago
@dutchgangsta1 Without laws that aren't strong and enforceable then we would see each other kill each other. Without a military that protects a nation then you would be overrun and enslaved. These American communist are fake they think a nation dosen't need a military to protect a nation. They think we don't need a military so we can be overrunned. Every nation needs a military force to protect its internal affairs. I agree there will not ever be a american state.
v19d 1 year ago
I wish i knew russian
the USSR will rise again
dutchgangsta1 1 year ago
polityka ktura prowadzil byla dobra na wieki powinien lezec w mozuleum!! putin ma racje ;a lenin nie z mardowal i zasluguje na szacunek od rosjan!!!!!!!!!!!zsrr zostala potega dzieki leninowi!!!!
zetor5211ful 1 year ago
La mera verdad
TIGRE5833 1 year ago
Извините, вопрос не по теме. Вы тут не русские что ли? А то мне приходиться переводить ваши письмена с русского на русский! Или я что-то непонимаю, пардон!
Baltazarr78 1 year ago
ah the ussr, so many tyrants with so much blood on thier hands.
jowns0 1 year ago
amen to that my friend
thegrief13 1 year ago
@questionmarkjones
amen to that
boomac62 2 years ago
why because im a communist?
defiler554 2 years ago
@defiler554 seriously ppl whats wrong with being communist?! I ASK ALL OF YOU WHAT IS WRONG WITH BEING A COMMUNIST?
A COMMUNIST IS JUST A NORMAL PERSON EXCEPT THEIR BELIEF IN GOVERNMENT
you all need to lay off playing the x box
nothing is wrong with communism
stalingradization 1 year ago 15
it's a belife and a very good one at that
but i ask can true communsim be achived
as long as 1 capitalist state is around.
sharingundragon 1 year ago
Then you are not a true commi.
If I had my way, you and all your pinko friends would be takin out in the street and shot. point blank crying for your mother.
VirtualInsanity91 1 year ago
well the way communist run the government is wrong. note i said GOVERNMENT, meaning i like the ppl but the corrupt government suppresses them. if lenin lived long enough to set all the standards for his government, he would have made something great. in fact the russian ppl still consider him a hero
thegrief13 1 year ago
but couldn't you argue what's wrong with been a fascist or a capitalist then?
Their just views on how goverment should be run. (Although capitalism is more about market then goverment)
Peadarisback 1 year ago
@stalingradization nothings wrong wit hanarchism either i mean heck the soviet union was baiscally a working anarchy there were no classes
TheJames1233 1 year ago
@stalingradization
Nothing is wrong with that, it is the best way to work out and live in a society.
Unfortunately, the western hemisphere makes people believe that capitalism in the best way to go and socialism/communim is a kind of devils work.
F**K off, at the end we will see.
amokings 1 year ago
@stalingradization It's because we've been conditioned all our lives to believe communism represents pure evil. It's to be feared. And the crazy thing about it is, they don't even tell us why.
DarkDragonofChaos 1 year ago
@stalingradization If everyone was a communist all people would do would be a binman an get high!
pazzainit 11 months ago
@pazzainit according to what logic?
Bernstein1917 10 months ago
@Bernstein1917 Maybe what i said was a bit of a hyperbole, i was over exaggerating. But what would motivate somebody to train in medicine for 6 years at university or to become a lawyer and study hard through all your a levels when you could just chill at home and get a job?
pazzainit 10 months ago
@pazzainit Well, under a Communist government, you still wouldn't be able to become a lawyer or a doctor without getting a degree, and that would still take considerable effort on your part. Additionally, contrary to popular belief, Communism both in theory and practice does not call for everyone to be paid the same amount, but rather for a greater equity of wages within specific careers. Additionally, no government official should be paid more than the most highly skilled worker.
Bernstein1917 10 months ago
@Bernstein1917
You are right my friend.
Communism doesn't tell people to have the EXACT same salary, it must exist some kind of gap so people would be motivated but these that contribuate to the socity should of course be rewarded more than someone that doesn't.
HX711 10 months ago
@Bernstein1917 Well what about housing? Does everyone get new houses or keep their original ones which are unequal?
pazzainit 2 months ago
Советский мудак, падаль, гниль, болезни, кровожадный убийца, позор нашей нации
BelayaArmiyaForever 2 years ago
white army forever, why are you listening to communist speeches when you are imperialist, pig
defiler554 2 years ago
@defiler554 I dont listen to it I just come here to tell people like you that you are an ASSHOLE and a piece of SHIT. I know you sorry red pieces of shit gather here so I am covering alot of commie idiots with one sentence
BelayaArmiyaForever 2 years ago
i want subtitles !
brettsworld99 2 years ago
hurry up the mortherfucking subtitles
TheNaomiengland 2 years ago
OH GOD don't you people see that communism and capitalism are both dangerous and harmful? Communism ruined the world and Capitalism is runing it....I used to fall for the communist side and defend mad dictators like Lenin but then I realized communism was bad BUT so was/is capitalism
Peadarisback 2 years ago
both systems are created by humans. that's the problem.
No matter how much we want to - we create imperfect systems that are dominated by the rulers and demoting the ruled ones..
The only two ideals that have to be persued is freedom and love.
Tosh220 2 years ago
i completely agree. i believe one philosopher actually wrote about how he wanted smaller states rather than large countries so that it would b like a community with everyone working for the benefit of each other.
thegrief13 1 year ago
tell me...how could communism ruin the world when there wasn't a communist state in the 1st place. It's the evil rulers like stalin that ruined communism for us and now we are discriminiated for their failures
defiler554 2 years ago 2
oh don't give me that crap that there wasn't a communist state Lenin set one up in 1917 and really fucked a lot of people over to take power for himself.
He used terror and autocratic rules to supress his so-called great political views.
Capitalism is VERY far from saint like though.
Peadarisback 2 years ago
umm lenin was only just making it. if he lived to complete it then communism really wouldnt b that bad. it was STALIN who messed it up for everyone.
thegrief13 1 year ago
well put. ignorance is the emperor of demise.
Sladkey83 1 year ago
Так называемые «Революции», а точнее перевороты или другие политические изменения
Идеализируют талантливые люди, совершают ФАНАТИКИ, а пользуются ПРОХОДИМЦИ
chasy2007 2 years ago
wow he really could put profound ideas into simple words!
DmitryDaren 2 years ago
Hey Skaterbrain, you need to use more exclamation marks and less words-it will make more sense--trust me
fdoric6 2 years ago
Long live beloved leader and comrade V.I Lenin!
GKnight2020 2 years ago 9
Is the first one the original recording? Seems very very clear!
Dontshutmeup 2 years ago
Lenin reminds me of my grandpa :3 In both spirit, political ideaology, and appearance.
LadyEmilyElizabeth 2 years ago
Your grandad must look like a legend.
Haidoor1987 2 years ago 2
haha
Tosh220 2 years ago
Ur lucky. Mine looks like Hitler.
Hahah - just joking : ))
Tosh220 2 years ago
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World Revolution is the only solution for Marx peace, order, dignity, justice, humanity & equality to vastly improve conditions for future generations. The less than 1% ruling class Capitalist brutality has failed the masses by betraying us into widepread chaotic poverty striving in declining desperation just to make ends while the elite continues to benefit in their regressive, right wing status quo dogmas in most countries like here, Mexico and Singapore where socialist voices are crushed!
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There's a Lenin statue from the old USSR in Seattle, WA here in the USA and it's sitting about fifty feet from a Taco Del Mar. A real up yours to Lenin/Communism is what I take that as.
The Lenin statue had a skirt on it during gay pride week. Was freaking hilarious.
HokiesAndDawgs 2 years ago
Can i just say communism rules and we should all convert Lenin what a great man. OOH RAH!!!
13ReallyRandom13 2 years ago 11
@13ReallyRandom13 Better dead than Red! Fuck communism!
loveliberty1776 1 year ago
@loveliberty1776 No way, communism is the best way to run things, im sorry your saying capitalism works, great idea, the poor stay poor and the rich get richer.
13ReallyRandom13 1 year ago 34
@13ReallyRandom13 yes, that is true...-when we are under a republican leadership. Every government type has its flaws. Why, the USA sets a record every year for the longest lasting democratic country, simply because capitalism isnt a very sucsessful government type.
xXc0nqu3r3rXx 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 Haha you should tell him lots of things work. Killing off 6 million jews worked for the germans. Was it right? No and most of the big time capitalists were anti semites. Walt Disney and Henry Ford were. Much of the time the capitalists use the jews as a hate figure. It's not hard or it wasn't back then due to the protocols being written.
StiftikBoliovich 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13
Central bank monetary inflation is the biggest driver off the differential between rich and poor. Central banks are also fundamental to socialist theory.
meefy 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 In capatalism, the poor have an opportunity to become rich. by freely opening a buisness or whatever means. The rich do get richer, but the poor still have opportunities, they do not stay poor.
m1grand70 10 months ago
@m1grand70 really tell that to the ass hole monopolies that kill the small business!! there competition for you... the poor doesnt have a chance!!
hbk12165 10 months ago
@13ReallyRandom13
Communism: the poor get poorer.
BritonAgainstIslam 8 months ago
@BritonAgainstIslam The poor get richer!
stureremil1942 8 months ago
@stureremil1942
No they don't, everyone gets poorer besides the leadership.
BritonAgainstIslam 8 months ago
@BritonAgainstIslam Russian and Chinese People are richer after revolution than before.
stureremil1942 8 months ago
@stureremil1942
Nonsense, even so if it were true the Chinese masses are still poverty stricken. Marxism is a low, the height of opposing human nature. Humans innately want and desire.
BritonAgainstIslam 8 months ago
@BritonAgainstIslam Marxism is don't opposite. It is compatible with human nature, ecology and survive our species on this planet.
stureremil1942 8 months ago
@stureremil1942
The words of a half-wit.
BritonAgainstIslam 8 months ago
@loveliberty1776 nice, another one of those redneck rhyming slogans
'cause if it rhymes, it must be true!
TheCanadianLeninist 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron The idea is beautiful, and I respect that people wanted change and had a revoloution to get what they wanted. Look at Cuba no-one forced them, the people wanted to. I think you find the biggest military forces that were ever created are from communist countries. You have been filled with capilitist propaganda, yet I ask you what freedom's remain due to the terroist act, how can we express ourselves without being monitered, why are we part of this shitty system. We do nothing
13ReallyRandom13 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 What a piece of BS are u talking?? Cuba, no one forced them???? R u f%%ng kidding???? OK, let s organize a demonstration in Havana to start a discussion about Castro. Let s see how long this will remain good.
"The idea is beautiful, " Ah, yes?? The communists is an failure in theory and practice. I don t respect communists. At best, comm. are merely mentally challenged people who buy in this complete nonsense.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 Why communism always will end (or already start) as a brutal dictatorship? That's obvious, boy. Men are NOT equal. They are equal in terms of rights, yes. But not in terms of capabilities, motivation, efforts, talents, skills, character etc. You need a brutal dictator in order to hammer the doctrine of uniformism over individuality. If you want everybody to be equal you need to abolish individual rights. You need to control individuums by power.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
The term "Communism" derives from latin "communis" meaning "combined".
Communism is a sociopolitical philosophy striving for a classless society, not a society of clones.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 IT Does. At least that s the result of communism. If you are only one inch away from what you are supposed to think, say or do, you are pushed into line immediately (if you are not sent off to a gulag or shot directly).
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Man, there were forced labor camps in siberia even before the socialist revolution...that has to do with Russia not with communism.
Communism is a sociopolitical philosophy, ideology and as such it can be misused.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 Ah, really?? If so, then these camps had/have nothing tro with the death machine of the communists that killed people in the tens of millions.
"Communism is a sociopolitical philosophy, ideology and as such it can be misused."
Yes, it can and it always has been misused, bcs communism is totalitarianism. It only can be put into practice as dictatorship. It is the opposite of freedom of the individual.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Nope, it isn't.
Stalin made it to it and after that he was copied again and again...
To say that communism is totalitarism is like saying that capitalism was totalitarism because there were MANY dictators in capitalistic nations as well.
The camps in siberia have a long, long history...the Russian emperors, the czars used them long before Marx and Engels.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 As you rightly stated, communists aim for a classless society, by abolishing private property (and socialize it) and to distribute the socially generated GDP equally. So the individual needs to surrender his will and freedom to the collective. This only can be achieved by force and violence dictatorship.
"The camps in siberia have a long, long history" People weren't killed in the tens of millions. It s like saying anti-semitism isn't part of Nazis, bcs this also existed before them.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
But anti-semitism before the nazis was more like "jews get out!" not like "you´ll get a shower over there, now put off your clothes and get in!", if you know what am saying.
NKA23 1 year ago
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@NKA23 was more like "jews get out!" not like"
Bullshit. There were many bloody progroms all over the centuries in almost all countries.
Labor camps in Siberia prior to communism (if there were any at all) had no comparison to the gulag in the Soviet Union, both in quantity and quality.
You are an igrnorant, dumb idiot. That's all.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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@NKA23 "To say that communism is totalitarism i"
It only can be conceived as a totalitarian dictatorship from a theoetical perspective. In practice ALL communist regimes were totalitarian.
"saying that capitalism was totalitarism "
No, in theory and practice the individual rights and freedom are pronounced in capitalism. It is a system based on individual freedom, private entrepreneurship and pursuit of happiness.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@NKA23 "were MANY dictators in capitalistic nations as well."
Ah, really?? And they were WHO?? HItler was a dictator of national SOCIALISM. If an African rotten country is taken by a dictator, what do you want to say with that??? THat political chaos creates dictators?? That's news!!
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Hitler´s party called itself "national socialistic" but that that has little to do with socialism....don´t take a 80yo PR trick for real...the German society still remained capitalistic.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 Complete bullshit. Socialism means that private rights and freedom are reduced/abolished in favor of a socialized entity i.e. community/society. In socialism economic, cultural, and even private life are governed, controlled, influenced even dictated by a big omnipotent government/regime. Therefore there was little capitalistic about Hitler's Germany. The economy was dictated by the regime. Private entrepreneurism was driven out.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Nope, it doesn´t...that´s what Stalin, Mao and co. made out of it.
And in Nazi Germany the economy wasn´t completely dictated by the regime, that´s nonsense.
NKA23 1 year ago
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@NKA23 "And in Nazi Germany the economy wasn´t completely dictated by the regime, that´s nonsense."
I didn't say completely, fool. But to a large extent, fool.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@NKA23 'Nope, it doesn´t...that´s what Stalin, Mao and co. made out of it."
Yep, and whenever communist is put into practice some other asshole will come and establish a dictatorship, be it Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Kim Jong Il, Ceaucescu, Pol Pot, Honnecker, Castro, ... there was not ONE communist country that was not a dictatorship.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
So what?
The idea still exists and a humanity more mature than ours will probably be able to form a REAL communist world nation.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 What is good about the idea anyway?? The idea is equality i.e. that the lazy and dumb has as much as the highly motivated and the hard working person. This is what is called 'social justice' in communism/socialism. I call it social injustice.
As long as man does not change, communism will never work. It relies on the strong being charitable, but at the same time on the weak honestly trying to do his best (and not faking being 'weak'). The human reality is that humans are lazy by nature.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
The idea is a society without classes in which ALL benefit from the wealth of the nation, not only the upper ten percent....the idea is a world without borders, a world where every one is TREATED equally.
When we have the technology to have all "lower" work done by machines, we have to find another form of society than that of a competition of everybody against everybody else or there will only be stinking rich people living in "paradise" and poor people starving in the streets.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 The West is a free and open and principally classless society. You are equal by law (at least officially).
"the wealth of the nation,"
The wealth is generated by those who take risks, who invest their money and themselves into sth. who work hard, who are innovative, what possible justification might be there to force them to be equal in terms of outcome to those who are lazy, stupid and dumb???
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@NKA23 "When we have the technology to have all "lower" work done by machines"
Ah, really and who invented these machines??? Who brought this technology around??? in many countries, Germany and Japan, most of the menial jobs are automatized. That's why you can pay the workers also much more than what a workers earns in Eastern Europe, China, etc.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@NKA23 "poor people starving in the streets."
In Germany, if you are poor, you get your housing paid by the state, and a financial allowance to finance your living. Who starves on the street?????? In communism, the economy was this weak, that either people starved to death in the millios or had to queue-in for hours in order buy a loaf of bread in the super market. What the fuck are you talking about????
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
I'm talking about the near future, when manual labor will be done by machines completely and many other jobs as well.
If we don't reform our society, the state won't be able to pay the jobless anymore...people will be left alone.
In Germany (and all other "western" nations) there are more and more rich people and more and more poor people while the middle class is disappearing slowly.
This will end in a world wide social catastrophy...
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 "hen manual labor will be done by machines completely "
If you understand the technology and engineering behind automation technology, then you know that most of the tasks cannot be done completely by machines, since this would require articifcial intelligence, which is not available yet and neither in the near future.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@NKA23
"In Germany (and all other "western" nations) there are more "
Bullshit, Germany and "Western" nations risk getting overtaken by countries like China and India, since people get too lazy, too depending on the welfare system of the state. The mentality is what one can get from the state and not what you can do to better the society.
52 % of the federal bugdet in Germany is spent on the social welfare system. The consequence: more and more people get dependent on social welfare.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Bullshit.
The industry doesn't have enough jobs...that's why there are more and more jobless people.
We had about 5 million of them, when Merkel got into charge, then the number sank to 3.5million jobless...then the crisis hit us.
Now we're back to about 4-5million jobless people, with no silver line on the horizon.
German labor is too expensive for German industry.
The German wellfare system is better and more humane than most nations', but you are still VERY poor when receiving ALG II.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 "The industry doesn't have enough jobs.."
Bullshit. There are more vacant position than there are qualified job seekers. But these positions require qualified and intelligent persons.
unemployment figures are around 3 mill at the moment in Germany. And why? Because of more market oriented reforms of the German socialistics system.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@NKA23 Äyou are still VERY poor when receiving ALG II."
You get more than you need to survive. What do you expect??? To go to Malle 3 times a year, to drive a BMW and MErcedes, while not working at all???
That's it: instead of trying to better your situation and qualifying yourself, investing yourself and trying to get a job or create your own company, you are only asking what you can get from the state. Pathetic. That's exactly the reason why ecnomy sucks in all communist countries.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Well, I am not even jobless...but I don't mind that 52% of my tax money are spend on the socially weak.
And about that "more than you need to survive"-thing....you get your housing paid, your costs to keep your place warm and your health insurance...but to life a life worth living you need more money than just for food and a dry, warm place if you life in our society.
I'm not talking about BMWs but being able to take part in cultural aspects of society for example.
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 "to take part in cultural aspects of society for example."
You mean, drinking 2 l of whiskey every day?
"ut I don't mind that 52% of my tax money are spend on the socially weak."
It s even more. Ah, really then ask this question a family father who needs to feed his family. If it were the socially weak, then it would be ok. You support those who are not willing to work.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
No, more like going to theatres, cinemas, concerts or stuff like that.
Just listen THERE AREN´T ENOUGH JOB FOR EVERYBODY...get it?
Too many people, not enough jobs....it´s that easy.
Most people on the dole don´t get any jobs...even if they try hard.
And even if ALL free vacant jobs were filled there´d be about 1-2 million people left...
I am supporting those, that don´t have a job, I don´t care WHY they don´t have any, but I don´t want them or their kids to starve.
NKA23 1 year ago
And I like my tax money rather giving to poor people than to rich assholes from the weapon industry...they earn 30billion € every year while education PLUS science only get 10billions by the state.
Without more money for education and science there won´t be more highly educated people for the industry and there won´t be any more new jobs.
But hey...maybe the US will invade Iran and we end up with WWIII...after that there will be too much work for too little people...or no people at all.
NKA23 1 year ago 8
@NKA23 Try educate yourself, stop reading BILD, use facts and arguments and logic to investigate a matter, fool.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Man, I never read BILD...I don´t even watch TV.
I´m an academic and rather intellectual type of guy...
NKA23 1 year ago
@NKA23 Ah, really, why don t you make use of an academic thinking and arguing that is supposed to be based on facts, arguments and logical stringence?
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
I do.
NKA23 1 year ago
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@NKA23 No, you don t.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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@NKA23 Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitome of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron (part 2) because we like our standard of living, we know things are bad but it's in our interest to stay how we are. Communists stood up too the world and gave up that standard of living to untie as one person. You should watch Zeitgiest and the Love Police (google it).
13ReallyRandom13 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 Capitalism brought wealth to a large part of the population. Competition, innovation, increasing productivity effectively ended the misery workers had to live in in the 19th century. Why is it that large packages of social securities can be paid to workers? Bcs capitalism brings productivity and wealth. Those who screamed the loudest about exploitation of workers did the least to come over it. If u like or not, capitalism made an end to the social misery of workers.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 And talking in economic terms, it is also clear that communist economies must fail. This is clear in theory and spectacularly much more in practice. First top down planning by bureaucrats only can be highly inaccurate and unrealistic (see Mao's Great Leap Forward), so extremely bad economic decisions are made. Secondly and more importantly, any private initiative and entrepreneurship is abolished which drives an economy. After nobody cares about nothing.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 I don't have to theorize. In practice, the picture crystal clear. Western economies leap frogged in terms of productivity, wealth being creating (with a participation of the vast majority), innovation, technology, u name it, while the vast majority in communist countries lived in utter poverty, but I am sure I don't have to get into detail here. U know it. Capitalism, which is a free market system that allows private property and freedom, brought economic & political freedom
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron: My intent is to have an intellectual exchange, rather than say which system is better. But you have to admit that the USSR in 1957 was a hell of a lot more advanced than the backwards Russia of 1917, despite having survived a bloody revolution and 2 of the worst wars the world has witnessed. Their technological improvements and ability to educate a backwards peasantry are acheivements that even you must acknowledge.
Anglagard1 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 It was terrible how children and the people was brainwashed into worshiping him, because of Stalin and Brezhnev for their own purposes. He was a good speaker and an idealistic man, and it it upsets me that after his dead he was like a mascot to the Stalin's sick goverment, which murdered over 30 million citizens. Lenin actually said that Stalin should not be ever elected as the head of the Soviet Union. Lenin was a man of peace.
Spugester26 1 year ago
@Spugester26 Lenin started with the communistic terror, killing people in the millions.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron Lenin was the beginner, but Stalin was the enforcer.
Spugester26 1 year ago
@13ReallyRandom13 @13ReallyRandom13 It was terrible how children and the people was brainwashed into worshiping him, because of Stalin and Brezhnev for their own purposes. He was a good speaker and an idealistic man, and it it upsets me that after his dead he was like a mascot to the Stalin's sick goverment, which murdered over 30 million citizens. Lenin actually said that Stalin should not be ever elected as the head of the Soviet Union. Lenin was a man of peace.
Spugester26 1 year ago
@Spugester26 Man of peace who murdered all his political opponents.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 I meant this ironically, compared to Stalin he was a man of peace.
Spugester26 1 year ago
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Another criminal like stalin....what a bunch of assholes. Pity that they made their own political experiments on the skin of the russian people
sass104505 2 years ago
You are idiot and you know nothing about us, our people and our great country, brainwashed bitch, so SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Ninelon 2 years ago
i hear your pain i'm from venezuela we have a socialist leader and comonly i have been insulted and called names on this tube from people that don`'t even live in venezuela. i feel your pain, fellow russian
luyzito 2 years ago
I would not worry about this. The mere fact that we draw all kinds of attention from apologists of capitalism just proves they recognize us as a threat (the capitalists invest a lot of time and money blackening the image of communism for a reason).
I also find their attempts to flame people online rather amusing. Do they seriously think they are going to stop any of us with their petty flaming and trolling?
Tula49 2 years ago
The truth is somewhere in the middle. Between capitalism and communism.
At the moment it is wild capitalism.. while it should be social capitalism.. We should not treat each other like machines - which was inserted into us after the industrial revolution - but like people..
Tosh220 2 years ago
amen to that
thegrief13 1 year ago
When you kill the dragon, you give birth to another dragon! That was the world history has proved! You can not build anything good on someone else's blood. Soviet Power has established itself on the wave of the Civil War, where a son could be against a father, a brother against a brother, which is unnatural and tragical. That was the beginning of the end of the implementation of very progressive social ideas... Lenin was a Genius but could not oversee the consequences...
ecler2004 2 years ago 3
@ecler2004
Then USA as well
Galentw 1 year ago
I mentioned human nature meaning humanism, and future societies ought to be build on the humanistic principles, and this is the matter of human race further development both social and biological...
ecler2004 2 years ago 2
I grew up in USSR and now live in Canada. I have been less brain washed in past than now. Capitalism has no future, it is against of human nature. All transformations that is happening informer USSR -historical regression towards either absolute monarchies, or national chauvinistic anarchism. On the contrary, Democracy is very complicated issue to be resolved with such simple division as private or collective ownership
ecler2004 2 years ago
May we get a translation here? This seems very interesting!
Steeplerot 3 years ago 2