John attacks the TiGr with bolt cutters (again), tin snips, and a car jack

[larsbendybendy]

HerCheapDream, definitely! Check out the other TiGr videos to see other attacks.

[HerCheapDream]

What about the circular "grinder" type saws used in high profile bike theif rings? Would those cut through your band? I don't live in a place like NYC, SF, LA, or London where those are used, but I am just curious if you have considered that.

[psilogen]

@HerCheapDream a cutoff wheel in an angle grinder will cut through pretty much anything. There is no commercial lock that stands a chance against one, nor will there be until we have, like, nanobots weaving u-locks out of diamond or something. And by that point we'll probably have pocket lasers that will cut diamond and physical deterrents will be meaningless since there will be absurd numbers of security bots watching our every move and reading the RFID chips in our heads from a distance

[DummyLeague]

IT IS CLEAR THAT CUTTING THE METAL HORIZONTALLY WOULD SNAP IT INSTANTLY!!!!!!!

THIS IS VERY OBVIOUS...

I DON'T SEE HOW THEY THINK PEOPLE WONT SEE THAT!!

(I'm sure this comment with also be removed highlighting this massive flaw!!)

[larsbendybendy]

@DummyLeague Indoor voice, please.

[charloses]

I would have liked to see the same test performed in the same way on both locks when using the jack. On the Ulock the jack was used against the lock and the apex of the curve. However in the TiGr it was used perpendicular to the lock. Different test, different results.

[psilogen]

@charloses they show a similar attack on the already deformed Ti lock, though a bigger block would have been a bit more honest. Ultimately, jack attacks are method-dependent, in that there must be room to fit the jack and operate it without destroying the vehicle you're trying to steal (though killing a frame and some wheels is probably worth it if the bike's got Di2 or some other high-dollar groupset)

[raybart76]

I am guessing from the lack of response to my previously suggested maneuver that you tried it and it worked? If not, it would be worth giving it a shot. It's actually a common way to break U Locks only rather than use a steel pipe the thieves use the bike itself.

[larsbendybendy]

You'll want to watch our other attack video, Eiune! It's actually even less damaging that way.

[Eiune]

Why wouldnt he try to cut it with the bolt cutters horizontal instead of the fat side first. i'm skeptical.

[Brute4rce]

Very well thought out and mechanically engineered lock!You have helped inspire. I too am designing a bike/motorbike u-lock that is a higher security option over standard u locks and would provide security against bolt cutters, hacksaws and grinders. Although its not as light as yours;). Im testing it with medeco and abloy protec cylinders.

[raybart76]

Take a steel pipe. Insert it in between where the two ends of the band come together at the lock, and turn it repeatedly end over end. Does the flexible band offer enough resistance to prevent the torqueing motion to create just enough movement to offset the 1/16th of an inch deep flange so that it pops out of the lock housing? It seems possible to me that it might. That’s a film that I would want to see.

[larsbendybendy]

You can back our project at Kickstarter! The url is in the description.

[AfterShockPivot]

How and when can I buy one?

[larsbendybendy]

Hi, Tenserrrr, thanks for your well-researched and enlightening questions and critique!

[tenserrrr]

this is a really stupid way of testing the attack... you should test it on a bike when is locked...also why someone would cut it one the width side??? bottom line...the design really suck and carrying around that lock is just awkward.

[antena]

@tenserrrr In an earlier video they tried using the bolt cutters on the narrow side. Didn't budge. The design is great for those of us who don't want to haul around a heavy lock.

[trrttsch]

@tenserrrr I agree that I would have liked to see the tests done in real situations with a bike locked onto o pole. The lock would be held in place by the bike and not fly away like in these tests. I really like the idea though and will probably buy one when my economy allows it. :)

[Karlh86]

Wow. Very cool guys. Since one 1/8" piece of titanium is too small for the bolt cutters, I would like to see two 1/8" pieces stacked on top of each other. Just thinking a thief could maybe get bolt cutters around the two sides of the Tigr where the pieces come together and lock.