I knew most of the dances were by sarah but I didnt care I still loved the movie! I have seen it litterally 20 times! So what if sarah did the dancing I still would of voted for Natalie. They still should of given sarah credit
who the fuck cares natalie portman was an amazing actress in this film. and i think that natalie has a SECOND side of the story, its not just all about this whiny bitch.
This is awful! Because professional dancers (such as Sarah Lane) worked their whole life to be like that, and Natalie can't pose as a skilled dancer. It makes the rest of the dance world look like "Oh yeah, we learned all this in a year" when it really took many hours in a day, 5-7 days a week, and overall just many years!
Hollywood lies. I am shocked, shocked. If Natalie could have done the difficult dancing, they would not have needed to hire Sarah. Natalie should have had enough class to acknowledge Sarah.
Of course people are thick enough to think Portman did all the dancing herself. The box office at the Royal Opera House in Covent Garden in London got so many calls from people asking when Portman was going to dance Odette/Odile with the Royal Ballet. I have not seen Portman in class, but only in the film so I am not going to say anything abut her dance training/background/ability. I for one liked the film, as I didn't go see it to if Portman could dance or not, I just love Swan Lake.
When Natalie appeared on the David Letterman show to promote Black Swan she mentioned having a dance double, but she didn't mention her by name. She mentioned the choreographer and her trainer by name and talked a lot about them. If I were in Sarah's position, I probably wouldn't have said anything. Still, I can understand why she's upset. The producers did silence her and that seemed pretty shady.
Honestly I don't care that Natalie Portman didn't do the majority of the dancing. And I wouldn't thank the dance double either if she was slandering my name lol.
People are missing the point.Natalie's acting was amazing.But her dancing "skills" were shamelessly used as marketing for the Oscars.
I also disliked the "people that no one mentions" in her speech, it was like "most of the other actors are really arrogant and never mention these people, but i'll do it because I'm humble."So humble that she was OK about the fact that a dancer was being taken for granted on behalf of her Oscar campaign.
Of course she didn't do the dancing, who would believe that an actress could become a ballerina overnight? I myself being a dancer, that's just impossible. But Sarah Lane IS a professional ballet dancer, and the movie IS all about dancing. Natalie couldn't have won an Oscar had not been for the fantastic ballerina Sarah Lane. So yeah, I think it's unfair what they did, and then they lied about it too. I think they should have kept it real, I would have enjoyed the movie much better.
In a way I do not agree with Sarah Lane speaking out. You have so many movies where people take on stunt doubles, but the doubles never get any attention or "speaks up". Sarah knew what her role was, she signed on. Yes she's an amazing dancer and I have so much respect for her in that. I am trying to get into modern/contemporary dance so I know it is hard. I think Natalie deserved the Oscar. I knew Natalie wasn't dancing, bcuz they never should her lower body, but I didn't know she had a double.
Natalie deserve the Oscar but Sarah should have gotten more recognition for her beautiful dancing. I knew that Natalie couldn't have done most of those shots after only dancing en pointe for 6 months. I've been dancing for sixth months en pointe and I am no where near half as good as Sarah Lane is. It's impossible for Natalie to do what dancing she was given credit for.
OMG this pisses my off i used to do ballet but quit due to foot injury :( my friend still does it i know how hard it is you have to train your body and mind sarah should get so much more recognition at least when you get the award mention her in the people you thank and there is no way she learned all that in a year Sarah YOU are awesome
Natalie deserved that oscer, but Sarah Lane deserved WAY more recognition then she got, ballet is a nearly IMPOSSIBLE artform that requires at almost a lifetime to semi-perfect, Sarah obviously spent her youth in class instead of having fun and getting paid for acting in movies like Natalie when she was young, they lead COMPLETELY different lives, and both work very hard, and there for BOTH deserve praise and total respect:)
Natalie did not win the oscar for her dancing in the film it was her performance as a whole, you followed her journey of torment to the top. You saw her change from an innocent shy girl to this obsessive, controling woman. The film is amazing and she deserved the award
at 2:27 I can completely understand that. even though natalie is amazing, it still was unfair. she did an amazing job, but to say she mastered ballet in a year is just bull shit.
@KingKongBrigade Here's the thing though - Portman never lied. Neither did the filmmakers. They all said the dance scenes weren't just her. Really Lane doesn't have a leg to stand on with this one. Honestly I think this is really about her having expected to get all this press and attention after it and then when she didn't she started acting out. I love ballet and have a great deal of respect for dancers, but she's giving the profession a bad name with this.
@cherryceejay You're comparing apples and oranges here. Natalie is a professional ACTRESS, not a ballet dancer; Sarah is a professional ballet dancer who is world renowned for her craft. How would you like getting NO recognition for all the work that you did?
She did get recognition, just not as much as she wanted, so she dragged it on. Portman was the star PERIOD. And I think it pissed off Sarah even more when she wasn't mentioned in her 'the people who don't get mentioned with making movies' Oscar speech. She's pissed. Who cares.
By the way, I wonder if Rober DeNiro's body double for Raging Bull got this upset? I highly fucking doubt it. If people are stupid enough to believe that Natalie Portman after a year training did all her own stunts...well this country is full of retarded people after all.
First of all, anybody who actually thinks you can be a professional ballet dance after a year's practice is borderline retarded. That's like saying you can be professional boxer after a training for a year. And I've never done either a day in my life, but common sense would tell you that's impossible. So for this girl to get mad that people are getting that impression, I don't think any intelligent person thought that at all. Anybody with a brain knew Portman had a body double.
Natalie's acting in that movie was great, even though she may have not done all the dancing, she deserved it because she did a great job. She should've given credit where credit was due tho.
Bitch should shut the fuck up. She's a body double. If she was half the dancer she thinks she is she'd be a ballet star, but she's really not good enough and that's really what her problem is.
@melindagreenjeans ...Are you an idiot? She got a part in a movie. She's a "world renown dancer". In the ballet world that IS a ballet star. Do you know how hard it is to succeed in any way in ballet? Obviously you don't.
@melindagreenjeans What in god's name is wrong with you? Can you really be this fucking stupid. That woman is a respected and accomplished ballet ARTIST! Do you have any idea how difficult an achievement that is?
@melindagreenjeans Sarah Lane is an extremely accomplished professional ballerina. Obviously she wouldn't have gotten the role if she "wasn't good enough". YOUR the one that needs to shut fuck up because you clearly don't even know what your talking about.
@melindagreenjeans What do you mean she's not a ballet star? Just world renowned and has danced with some of the Top ballet companies in the world. You are obviously very ignorant when it comes to knowing the amount of work and dedication it takes to be able to dance like Sarah.
It doesn't matter if this Sarah chick claims she did most of the dancing; Natalie deserved the award she obtained simply because her role in the movie, acting-wise, was fantastic. She acted well, and you really believed her performance. The fact remains that Sarah didn't act, she just did what she's good at: Dance. Portman deserves her award, and Lane deserves none of the credit for transforming "Nina" into the character she was at the end of the film.
If you watch the DVD, the special effects guy mentions Sarah's name and how they put Natalie's face over her body, but it seemed like he said it by mistake, like, oops, did i just say that? Sarah deserves a lot of the credit for the transformation of whiny Nina into the Black Swan
I totally understand Sarah's feelings about the movie. Ballet is absolutely the hardest thing to do and it is totally unfair that Natalie got the credit for something that she didn't. It is impossible to get that good at ballet in a year and a half. I do ballet and I agree with Sarah that it is degrading to the entire ballet world to say that someone can become a ballerina in a year in a half.
@thechancetodance94 Rubbish! Ballet is a matter of practice, you don't start out being good at it. It's no harder than anything else in particular. I would say Martial arts is harder than ballet, but that's just an opinion and it's no more true than what you've said. I could say guitar is harder than anything..... blah blah blah. As I said it's RUBBISH
@melindagreenjeans I've done martial arts for years (tae-kwon do, karate, and jujitsu) and I have to say ballet IS harder than all of them combined. Also, she IS a star dancer - maybe not a principal, but she's a soloist at a really prestigious, renown ballet company. It's so competitive in the ballet world; to have made it as far as she did is an amazing accomplishment that hundreds strive for but very few obtain.
@melindagreenjeans Not to mention that you actually CAN start out by being good at ballet. Ballet requires a very specific body type - small round head, hyperextended legs, flat chest, high arches, high insteps, great sense of musicality, great coordination, and a natural instinct for grace. Only 2% of the world population is born with all the specific bodily requirements for the world of professional ballet, and even with all that still very few make it into the top ranks.
are u fucking stupid if you were told to shut your mouth about it then she was probably told to do the same, so i would shut the fuck up if i was u. And plus weren`t u paid extra for not telling anyone. Fuck i would be grateful. So u should shut the fuck up little dirty bitch. I LOVE U NATALIE PORTMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ABBYWAMBACHUSASOCCER You're so delusional.. accept that your perfect Natalie DIDNT do the dancing in this movie. it is downright INSULTING to me and every ballet dancer to say that you can become a ballerina in a year. Thats bullshit. its downgrading the art of ballet and when in actual fact its a lot harder than you could ever imagine. go rewatch starwars you inconsiderate moron.
Sarah deserved more recognition. simple as that and even then she was willing to let it go if people hadnt of lied!
Fuck that girl should really shut the fuck up. Didn`t she get payed for doing the dancing, and didn`t everyone know, like the designers,lighting, actors, and everyone there who helped with the film, i say that's a lot of people who knows that she danced it. And plus maybe natalie couldn`t announce u to the world are u fucking stupid, what do you want, to ruin her career, hello she ain`t suppose to tell anyone, what do you expect if u were told not to tell anyone that she thanks u for dancing
THIS bitch needs to be backhanded. Natalie Portman is impressive. She worked hard for her Oscar. This "Sarah Lane" twat is a pretentious fool. And all those who think lesser of Natalie Portman after watching this interview are fools as well. I am honestly disgusted. Sarah Lane is an embarrassment. Go learn a real "art form," bitch.
@wonderfulmeeeeeee You don't know what you're talking about.That guy was right when he said most moviegoers don't know what real ballet looks like because there is NO WAY Portman could have learned to do fouettes en pointe or anything else in a year and a half. Pointe work takes years to master and build strength for. Also, ballet is not just about the big jumps or turns; it's about very small intricacies that ballerinas do with their hands, arms, feet, and head that one can't simply "pick up."
@wonderfulmeeeeeee Speaking as a ballerina myself, I can understand this, but still appreciate Portman's performance because she did an amazing job. But giving her credit for something that takes a lifetime to master is an insult to dancers everywhere because it makes it seem like anyone can do it, and they can't.
@mhenry91 Actually, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Its you who's misinterpreting what I'm saying. This woman is an idiot. She is seeking media attention. She clearly does not give two flying fucks about the viewers of black swan. She wants attention and money, sweetie. And I do not consider ballet to be art. A sport, maybe, as it is physically grueling, but NEVER art. I think it is one of the most pretentious and obnoxious activities in existence.
@wonderfulmeeeeeee I just laughed sooo hard at you comment saying ballet is not art!!
first of all how can you say that? Have you ever danced?, have you ever been on pointe shoes? do you even know how horribly hard and painful it is? imagine bearing that pain in you feet while you try to put a pretty face and execute every move perfectly... a ballerina is an athlete that is able to generate an emotion, that is able to transmit beauty in every move... and that my friend, is called ART!
@helterskelter1194 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And Yes. For six years. And I hated every minute of it. The people were rude. They were uppity and snotty. Every tiny mistake I made, I was yelled at for, and for what? To spin around in tights? I believe that Art is something that is creative. I think Choreographers are artists, but not ballerinas. Athletes? Yes, absolutely. Artists? No way. Sorry. Just my opinion.
@wonderfulmeeeeeee I understand now where you are coming from, and I hate that you had that experience with ballet. It is true that teachers can be cruel and degrading, but I wish that you could have experienced the other side of ballet. What you said about choreographers being the artists is definitely true, and I agree with that, but there are some ballerinas out there who are artists because they interpret the choreography and make it their own. They pour their emotions into it, making it art
@wonderfulmeeeeeee ok. I do respect your opinion, but I do believe it is art... but whatever, if you have danced and you didin´t like it you have all the right to hate it. ;)
@wonderfulmeeeeeee I agree with mhenry 91 that you are very ignorant. Furthermore, those who use profanity as a way to express themselves are ... close-minded, stubborn, hard to get along with, annoying, uncreative, and most of all ... ignorant! Your username also shows that you are egocentric which is a turn off to most other people.
I understand where Sara Lane is coming from but anyone who actually watched the movie can tell that the great "acting" scenes were the ones in which the main character was fighting her own madness. Those scenes had nothing to do with dancing. I'm glad sara agreed that Natalie still deserved the oscar, but yes, it would have been respectful for them to at least acknowledge Sara Lane.
This girl is such an idiot, she was hired as a body double to a star. what did she expect, do be standing right next to natalie when she was accepting her oscar? Did she really think that Natalie would thank her if it meant diminishing Natalie's integrity in the role? Give me a break. Everyone knew that she must have had a body double- but the body double doesn't get to an equal parr with the lead actress.
@timmcgrw4 You can't say she's an idiot. If you spend time and effort dancing in a movie-because you love and because maybe you need some money, you would want some recognition. Dancing is so hard and I know I'm in pain a lot and I don't dance half as much as Sarah, so you can't call her an idiot. I heard some people actually thought there was no double, and Sarah just wanted people to know it was her. Natalie is awesome, but it's not fair to say that it was all Natalie.
@MimisaysRAWR The producers openly admitted that a double was used and they stated that it was Sarah Lane. They never tried to cover up that fact. What people choose to believe it up to them, but the producers never tried to cover that up. Sarah Lane signed her rights away and was compensated VERY WELL for the dancing she did. I'm sorry if she feels treated unfairly now but it sound like she is seeking a lot more recognition than she initially signed up for. She should have read the fine print.
@timmcgrw4 I think she just wanted people to know that she was the one who did most of the dancing. People are praising Natalie for being able to dance like a professional in a year and a half when Sarah has been dancing for over 20 years; it's insulting to her.
Maybe because Im into film, I never thought that was all Natalia. You cant just become this amazing prodigy for a movie role. Its no different then an action sequence. I mean people dont usually thank "body doubles". But for how much credit Natalie was getting FOR DANCING and not FOR ACTING, she probably should have a gave a little shout out. It wouldnt have hurt her any to do so.
I get both sides, but honestly Natalie SHOULD HAVE DEFINITELY thanked her body-double for all of her hard worked and the fact that she made HER look SO GOOD in the movie.
As artists and respect, she should have recognized Sarah's hard work and thanked her, publicly.
It's like give me a break, you thanked the AD and the light technician but not your BODY DOUBLE ?? come on! Thats so cheap of her! The Oscar was in her hand! She won it! Should could have said anything!
Natalie is an amazing actress but shes not a dancer and ballet is NEVER perfected. This girl is right and if u think im wrong or stupid DEAL WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
stupid girl! the oscars are not given to dancers, but actors. The movie is about the esquizofrenia suffered by the dancer. Her face and crying scenes ar the oscar winning parts of the movie!! this girl is just jealous.
I did like Natalie portman's role in the film and I think she did very well with her acting, but as a dancer it didn't take me two seconds to figure out that some of the dancing was by a double. It takes years of training to reach this standard and to be able to go on pointe. I read somewhere that from the waist up Natalie did all her own dancing but the shots of her legs were of a double, which makes sense.
People she is just speaking up about the truth. I mean c'mon! face it,if your weren't mention during the award speech of course you will feel like a trash push aside. the reason why people vote of natalie is because she gave a stunning performance, not only that also the dance scenes.
Ugh, who cares? Natalie Portman was the actress in the film- not Sarah. Of course she deserved the award. If you didn't do this for attention, Sarah, why are you talking now?!
Great! I am a dancer and people I meet are like "Wow to do stuff you do it´s taking 1 year practise!" And I am always like "WTF!? It takes over 10 years hard work! How you think 1 year?" "Because Natalie Portman became a dancer for Black Swan after just 1 year." I hate that commercial pretending!!! When they already made such a dramatic movie they should be honest about the real hard work a dancer has to do to get to the top.
Oh my god. STFU pretentious dancing freaks. Natalie Portman deserved the Oscar. She probably didn't mention Sarah Lane because she's a fucking bitch. As seen in this interview.
@wonderfulmeeeeeee how can you tell that she's a 'bitch' she never gave that impression. Anyway did Sarah Lane at any point say Natalie didn't deserve the Oscar? no she didn't Sarah said why she was speaking up, because it was insulting and demeaning for her and other dancers as people were thinking that you could do that level of dancing with, in comparison ,ery lit
@charlieflower101 To me, she does seem like a bitch. And she's speaking up for attention. Lets be real.This entire interview was bitchy. She has an attitude that is just intolerable.
Oh please! Dance doubles are like stunt doubles. These people don't receive much credit all the time! And this girl said that she didn't expect to receive big credit for her work but changed her mind after film's success. Do you guys got the point?
And Natalie really danced a lot because the majority of dancing scenes are upper body shots and it's definitely Natalie. And what about her transformed trained body? She did a hard work. Portman deserved an Oscar for sure
it's good that this talented performer spoke out when people were unfair to her but what makes me mad is that people are starting to minimize the fact that natalie portman won an oscar. sure the dancing had something to do with it but the oscars are for ACTING. natalie was absolutely phenomenal in this movie and while i disagree with her getting most of the credit for dancing, i still 100% think she deserved the oscar.
as a part of the performing arts world, i thought that it's quite obvious that natalie portman didn't do most of the dancing. however, sarah lane acknowledged that she will not take much credit for her work, and it was only until the film gain much notice did she become almost bitter about the situation. i'd respect her more if she demanded to be acknowledged from the very beginning.
@fuchion15 It was after Aronofsky and Co. started exaggerating the amount of dancing Natalie did. They were going on and on about Natalie's great transformation into a ballerina. There are a lot of gullible people out there who don't know much about ballet and who believed it. This was very misleading and gave a wrong impression that it's possible to learn to dance like a ballerina in a year and a half and this is why Sarah Lane started talking. At least this way my impression.
Sarah has a point, I don't think that you could do a beautiful and extremely difficult pirouette after a year and a half, let alone perfecting the art of ballet, however, it was Sarah's job to do a double and she agreed to do the double. Natalie's job as a superb actress was supposed to be the focus on the film and not her dancing skills. Meryll Streep can't do ballet, Tom Hanks can't do ballet, Alec Baldwin can't do ballet, Amy Adams can't do ballet, why can't critics shut up?!?!?!?!
Natalie Portman, in my view, is one of the best actresses around right now.. Even that she did a year and a half of training and danced any of it is amazing!! Isn't it obvious they'd need a dance double? The idea that people think Natalie Portman should have been dancing to a professional standard really astounds me! If Sarah Lane was credited for her work then what's the problem? I bet the reason she had to stay quiet was because of the amount of people that don't realise how intense ballet is.
This what I don't like about this new generation of people......So I guess every stunt man or body double that has stood in for Will Smith or Brad Pit is going to come out and blast them.
So Natalie didn't dance the whole film. Afronsky hired an ACTRESS not a dancer. She acted the part of a dancer and she acted it well. Both professions are gruelling. One is physical and one is emotional. Sarah is a beautiful dancer but she didn't act the part; she didn't bring Nina to life. She wasn't the one with the tears streaming down her face. She's nothing more than a stunt double. She's a very talented stunt double but that is what she was paid to do. Stunt doubles don't get aclaim.
It isn't fair that Natalie Portman got the Oscar mainly cause of the dancing (that was the biggest and most spectacular part of the movie) and we weren't told she had a double. I mean after all why didn't they get a professional ballerina to play the role of the ballerina in Black Swan? I think that before giving the Oscar to Natalie and not the other great actresses people had to know this ''small detail''.. I totally believe that a year work can't do that.
@margaritanoir .....you do not have to be told she had a body double.....just like when you see a will smith movie you do not have to be told he did not do the stunts....but a stuntman who was dress like him did it. It's a fucking movie.
@MrWorldbefree Well the director told everyone that she did 80% of the dancing (see the video above) and people believed him.. One of the main reasons she got the Oscar was cause people believed she did that.. Sarah Lane got some credit for her work only after Portman won the Oscar.. and still if you read articles on the film noone mentions Sarah.. Portman is one of my favorite actresses but still BIG part of the movie was dancing which wasn't done by her.. PERIOD
"There are Oscar voters who say they would not have voted for Natalie if they knew she didn't do all of the dancing." Are you kidding me Oscar voters!!!?? RED FLAG a years worth of ballet training dosen't equate the decades a seasoned ballerina has spent training...Its obvious she had a double. I know Natalie Portman is a talented actress, but since when has she or anyone else performed miracles? Jesus dosen't count. I hope Natalie thanked technology and digital enhancing during her acceptance.
I'm a HUGE fan of the movie and ballet dancer myself but I'm not so sure about this whole thing. Was Sarah's name in the movie credits as a double? If it is, then she shouldn't complained. She IS after all, just like stunt double and got paid to do her job. But I can see why she would speak up though. Poor girl.
I NEVER THOUGHT IT WAS NATALIE PORTMAN!!!! And I never thought it could possibly be her. She is an actress and she did her job in acting like she could dance. Every time I watch a movie it is usually never the actual actor when it comes to stunts. Because their insurance will not let them do anything that may get them hurt or keep them from shooting the movie. I have never seen any actor thank their stunt man so this girl should have known better.
Anyone who's watched the "extras" on the DVD would know that the CGI group who worked on this film superimposed Natalie's face on Sarah's body in the full length dance shots . They show exactly how they did it, and fully admitted to it. Anyone who claims a person can "relearn" how to be a ballerina has no idea what they're talking about. I took ballet for 12 years as a kid ... many of my fellow classmates and I would be hard pressed to look like prima ballerinas after all these years ...
@Lucyballet1994 uh, sarah got paid. Portman isn't a professional dancer. Seems like this other girl is seeing how much praise the movie is getting and so now wants to act like she got did wrong.
@Lucyballet1994 Yes but in the context of a movie, it's the proper analogy. It's like Robert DeNiro having a professional boxer be his body double in Raging Bull.
@Antrizzle2009 Well in my opinion as a dancer, I find it extremely degrading and insulting that the people working on black swan claimed Natalie became a ballet dancer in a year and half, it takes years and years to master. And I have literally heard people talking about it myself, people actually believe she is a prima ballerina.
@Lucyballet1994 First of all let me say, I have nothing respect for ballerinas and what they do. I realize they dedicate their entire lives to their crafts. Secondly, I feel that they solely promoted it this way for Oscar season. Now coudl they have handled it better? Yes. Personally I think Portman deserved the Oscar for her acting in the film and it shoudln't have been an issue of her doing the actual dances. Jamie Foxx didn't do all the singing in Ray, yet he still won the Oscar.
@Antrizzle2009 fair enough, it just annoys me that other people have no respect -.- she's an amazing actress, but to be honest I didn't like the way the film portrayed the ballet world in general
@Lucyballet1994 Well I think the ballet word was just used as the backdrop. This plot could have very easily been used for a sports movie or any premise in which the main character is striving for perfection and ultimately drives themselves crazy in that pursuit. If anything, I would think as a ballerina, are you at least happy that this movie has brought attention to your art form? An art form that many casual viewers would normally not care about?
@Lucyballet1994 I agree. People can be so ignorant! Natalie said she took ballet lessons as a child, but she certainly wasn't dancing on pointe. Most ballet instructors won't let their students wear toe shoes until the bones in their feet have developed - around the age of 16.
@pads41 thank you, someone who understands! There's no way Natalie became a ballet dancer in a year and a half, there's no way she'd even be allowed en pointe after a year and a half -.- Sarah Lane's a true artist, Natalie should stick to the acting.
ok, really Sarah? I too am a professional ballet dancer and if I had been hired to be Natalie's double I would be quiet. Of all the action movies you have seen how many times have you heard from the body double who throws themselves in front of a bus or off a building? You don't. That is their job and what they get paid for. Ridiculous!!!
If she didnt do the movie for credit/recognition..she lied to herself! She should have made it clear that she wanted credit or at least have them made it clear it was important to her...
Also if you watch interviews with natalie and mila they both say how hard ballet dancing is and how they could never fully do it...
The fact that a producer called Sarah Lane and told her to keep quiet until after the Oscars is despicable, and the fact that all these months later there's been no public apology or official recognition from the film makers of the actual work Sarah Lane did is ridiculous. Giving her credit doesn't diminish Natalie's acting ability. It was brave of Sarah to speak up - good for her!
@benjsinister Natalie used to be a professional ballet dancer? Don't be ridiculous. She's got no turnout, stiff upper body and arms, little port de bras and epaulement, she wasn't even doing pointe work for goodness sake...
I don't understand how the dancing some how affects whether or not Natalie should have gotten the Oscar. She did an amazing job as an actress... If the Academy would have given the award to someone else because she didn't dance as much in the film they are fickle. But then, I guess that comes with the territory. The dancing was beautiful and powerful, but Natalie's performance is what REALLY sunk in while watching the film. It's sad both women can't be credited for their craft without drama.
She didn't originally get offended, until people thought Natalie did ALL the dancing. She wasn't complaining, she was just trying to let people know what really went down. Period. She is, by no means looking down on Natalie or anyone, but just simply trying to shed light on this matter.
If you are a professional dancer, you would know how it feels when credit is given to someone who doesn't FULLY deserve it.
Sarah Lane is not complaining, stop bashing Sarah. I, for one, thought Natalie deserved her Oscar winning regardless of her dancing. However, Sarah Lane interviewed only to shed light and awareness that Natalie did not do most of the dancing, she is, by no means, criticizing Natalie. Period. Do you guys actually watch the whole interview before judging people?
Both Sarah and Natalie did an incredible job. I DO however, think Sarah deserved more credit though.
Both Natalie and Sarah did an incredible job & should have been acknowledged for the two different performances, one for acting and the other for dance. Two complete different acts, which both took an immense amount of time and effort in order to get where they are today. One is not better then the other, they have both worked just as hard just in different areas. It was wrong for Natalie to take credit for the dance. TAKE CREDIT FOR THE ACTING. Let Sarah take credit for the dancing!
I know Sarah's aunt, and it is true that Natalie danced hardly any of it.
There is a difference between a professional dancer, and Natalie, who only danced a little over a year in order to prepare for Black Swan. The expression and level of dancing shown in Black Swan could have only been expressed and portrayed by Sarah. The reason why Sarah spoke out was for some recognition of her hard work, which she deserves. She wouldn't have if they had given her more credit then just a "stunt man"
Ok, Sarah wanted to be more recognized... that's cool, but it was OBVIOUS that Natalie didn't do the hard dance parts but I don't understand all this, The Ballet was a part of the movie but we're also looking how Portman gives life to a girl that's going insane to achieve perfection... Yes Sarah, your Fouettes were great but it wasn't YOU who reflected the evil in the Black Swan dance... it was NATALIE, you didn't cry, you didn't do the acting HARD PARTS... you are an OPPORTUNIST.
@Kumagoro17 No one said she did the acting, she danced most of the hard parts. And if you were a dancer you'd know how hard it is. ANYONE would be angry if they did such a large role for a movie and get ignored for it. How dare you call her an opportunist.
@killbunnysforbois I dare to call her an opportunist BECAUSE I CAN! I said... She wanted to get more recognized and that's cool, and yes... I DANCE TOO! Not ballet but Contemporary dance so I KNOW what dancing means... and HOW HARD IT IS! And that's MY OPINION! I NEVER SAID THAT SHE SHOULDN'T GET MORE RECOGNIZED YES IT WAS LAME! BUT IN THE END HER WORK IS RECOGNIZED BECAUSE SHE'S GREAT BUT I MEAN MOVE ON!!! READ BEFORE SPEAK!!!
I loved the film.... but I have to agree wit' the ballerina.... the obvious sign was that most of Natalie's dance sequinces were shot from the waist up.... and whenever it was a full body shot.... she was far away from the camera.... but all and all... the dancer should've gotten some credit because the dances were amazing....
I'm not on either side here but SOME people commenting are saying that she wanted credit or she wanted to be thanked or whatever.. she just wanted people to know that a year of ballet doesn't make you dance like that.. 22 years does. She probably thought that thinking that way would help with the argument "ballet isn't a real sport, it isn't challenging.." when indeed it is.. To be as good as the character in the movie it takes MANY MANY years. not one intense year.
I can understand the double,she is searching for justice..but:Natalies's face,is Natalie's face with her mimic and incredibly beautiful features and it was her expressive face that was seen the most in this movie.
The assumption that Natalie became a professional ballerina in just a year and film makers telling Sarah to keep quiet is very dishonest, and is a BIG reason why she won her Oscar.
Sarah Lane wasn’t properly credited. “Background Actor” was used instead of “Stunt Double”, and “Lady in the Lane” was used instead of Sarah’s real name isn’t why she’s upset. Claims that Natalie did almost all her own stunts, suppression of evidence that would go against that, and Natalie completely leaving Sarah out of her acceptance speech is the reason she’s speaking out.
The Dancing was Great. But the performance all around by her acting was UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! Credit should go to the dancer =for her Ballet. But the oscar and the Best performance of the movie was HER ACTING BY FAR!!!!
Not giving full credit to someone when its due, is plagiarism, whether the work is literature, art, acting or dancing. Sarah's just saying that while Natalie did do most of the acting, she did most of the dancing.
The main point is: no one can learn 22 years of ballet in only a year, and there's a difference between seeking fame and getting credit.
@JMBInuYasha They gave her credit in the credits twice. Honestly, the best part was Natalies Acting. Yeah the dancing was nice, but the ending wasn't Sarah, the ending didn't make me hold my breath because of dancing, because guess what? It wasn't dancing. Natalie starved for the film, so I find this whole, "I did this. She didn't" stuff stupid. Natalie has won awards since she was 11, so fuck the dancing.
I knew most of the dances were by sarah but I didnt care I still loved the movie! I have seen it litterally 20 times! So what if sarah did the dancing I still would of voted for Natalie. They still should of given sarah credit
MrsOliviaTheDiva 1 day ago
who the fuck cares natalie portman was an amazing actress in this film. and i think that natalie has a SECOND side of the story, its not just all about this whiny bitch.
iLyHannahhhx 4 days ago
This is awful! Because professional dancers (such as Sarah Lane) worked their whole life to be like that, and Natalie can't pose as a skilled dancer. It makes the rest of the dance world look like "Oh yeah, we learned all this in a year" when it really took many hours in a day, 5-7 days a week, and overall just many years!
Pianopenguinz3 5 days ago
i cant stand her voice....
mckennayoshi 1 week ago
Hollywood lies. I am shocked, shocked. If Natalie could have done the difficult dancing, they would not have needed to hire Sarah. Natalie should have had enough class to acknowledge Sarah.
4teepee 1 week ago
Of course people are thick enough to think Portman did all the dancing herself. The box office at the Royal Opera House in Covent Garden in London got so many calls from people asking when Portman was going to dance Odette/Odile with the Royal Ballet. I have not seen Portman in class, but only in the film so I am not going to say anything abut her dance training/background/ability. I for one liked the film, as I didn't go see it to if Portman could dance or not, I just love Swan Lake.
tedsler 2 weeks ago
good for her, she' a gorgeous ballerina and has heart. too bad the mediocore actresses don't have the courage or heart of the characters the play
sm1135ster1 2 weeks ago
When Natalie appeared on the David Letterman show to promote Black Swan she mentioned having a dance double, but she didn't mention her by name. She mentioned the choreographer and her trainer by name and talked a lot about them. If I were in Sarah's position, I probably wouldn't have said anything. Still, I can understand why she's upset. The producers did silence her and that seemed pretty shady.
aathnd08 2 weeks ago
Honestly I don't care that Natalie Portman didn't do the majority of the dancing. And I wouldn't thank the dance double either if she was slandering my name lol.
MsMovieCollector 2 weeks ago
She didn't mention Sarah Lane,,,,OH my god!!!
This IS A COMPLETE FRAUD
tumtumspain 2 weeks ago
People are missing the point.Natalie's acting was amazing.But her dancing "skills" were shamelessly used as marketing for the Oscars.
I also disliked the "people that no one mentions" in her speech, it was like "most of the other actors are really arrogant and never mention these people, but i'll do it because I'm humble."So humble that she was OK about the fact that a dancer was being taken for granted on behalf of her Oscar campaign.
iusernaime 2 weeks ago
Of course she didn't do the dancing, who would believe that an actress could become a ballerina overnight? I myself being a dancer, that's just impossible. But Sarah Lane IS a professional ballet dancer, and the movie IS all about dancing. Natalie couldn't have won an Oscar had not been for the fantastic ballerina Sarah Lane. So yeah, I think it's unfair what they did, and then they lied about it too. I think they should have kept it real, I would have enjoyed the movie much better.
hovart 2 weeks ago
In a way I do not agree with Sarah Lane speaking out. You have so many movies where people take on stunt doubles, but the doubles never get any attention or "speaks up". Sarah knew what her role was, she signed on. Yes she's an amazing dancer and I have so much respect for her in that. I am trying to get into modern/contemporary dance so I know it is hard. I think Natalie deserved the Oscar. I knew Natalie wasn't dancing, bcuz they never should her lower body, but I didn't know she had a double.
YurrahAlHadi 3 weeks ago
@YurrahAlHadi Stunt doubles/stunt artists usually get their name in the end credits even though it may not say exactly WHO the did the stunt for.
tedsler 2 weeks ago
@tedsler Yh I know.
YurrahAlHadi 2 weeks ago
Natalie deserve the Oscar but Sarah should have gotten more recognition for her beautiful dancing. I knew that Natalie couldn't have done most of those shots after only dancing en pointe for 6 months. I've been dancing for sixth months en pointe and I am no where near half as good as Sarah Lane is. It's impossible for Natalie to do what dancing she was given credit for.
ikate2 3 weeks ago
OMG this pisses my off i used to do ballet but quit due to foot injury :( my friend still does it i know how hard it is you have to train your body and mind sarah should get so much more recognition at least when you get the award mention her in the people you thank and there is no way she learned all that in a year Sarah YOU are awesome
1EdwardFreak 3 weeks ago
@1EdwardFreak why does it piss u off... WHO REALLY BELIEVED THAT NATALIE COULD DANCE THAT WELL???? NOT ME LOL
soulcalibur22 3 weeks ago
Natalie deserved that oscer, but Sarah Lane deserved WAY more recognition then she got, ballet is a nearly IMPOSSIBLE artform that requires at almost a lifetime to semi-perfect, Sarah obviously spent her youth in class instead of having fun and getting paid for acting in movies like Natalie when she was young, they lead COMPLETELY different lives, and both work very hard, and there for BOTH deserve praise and total respect:)
teenovels 3 weeks ago
Natalie did not win the oscar for her dancing in the film it was her performance as a whole, you followed her journey of torment to the top. You saw her change from an innocent shy girl to this obsessive, controling woman. The film is amazing and she deserved the award
BrokenDisko 4 weeks ago
at 2:27 I can completely understand that. even though natalie is amazing, it still was unfair. she did an amazing job, but to say she mastered ballet in a year is just bull shit.
EmiiLarks 1 month ago
I really liked Portman's performance, but to lie to such a degree in order to get an edge on the other Oscar contenders is shameful.
I'm on Lane's side.
KingKongBrigade 1 month ago
@KingKongBrigade Here's the thing though - Portman never lied. Neither did the filmmakers. They all said the dance scenes weren't just her. Really Lane doesn't have a leg to stand on with this one. Honestly I think this is really about her having expected to get all this press and attention after it and then when she didn't she started acting out. I love ballet and have a great deal of respect for dancers, but she's giving the profession a bad name with this.
SnotRockets55 1 month ago
go on and drag out your 15mins Lane, you're still not as awesome as Natalie.
cherryceejay 1 month ago
@cherryceejay You're comparing apples and oranges here. Natalie is a professional ACTRESS, not a ballet dancer; Sarah is a professional ballet dancer who is world renowned for her craft. How would you like getting NO recognition for all the work that you did?
pads41 4 weeks ago
She did get recognition, just not as much as she wanted, so she dragged it on. Portman was the star PERIOD. And I think it pissed off Sarah even more when she wasn't mentioned in her 'the people who don't get mentioned with making movies' Oscar speech. She's pissed. Who cares.
cherryceejay 3 weeks ago
By the way, I wonder if Rober DeNiro's body double for Raging Bull got this upset? I highly fucking doubt it. If people are stupid enough to believe that Natalie Portman after a year training did all her own stunts...well this country is full of retarded people after all.
Antrizzle2009 1 month ago
First of all, anybody who actually thinks you can be a professional ballet dance after a year's practice is borderline retarded. That's like saying you can be professional boxer after a training for a year. And I've never done either a day in my life, but common sense would tell you that's impossible. So for this girl to get mad that people are getting that impression, I don't think any intelligent person thought that at all. Anybody with a brain knew Portman had a body double.
Antrizzle2009 1 month ago
Good that Sarah speaks out. Some of these Hollywood producers are just rubbish.
KBI011 1 month ago
Natalie's acting in that movie was great, even though she may have not done all the dancing, she deserved it because she did a great job. She should've given credit where credit was due tho.
ChocolateTundra 1 month ago
Bitch should shut the fuck up. She's a body double. If she was half the dancer she thinks she is she'd be a ballet star, but she's really not good enough and that's really what her problem is.
melindagreenjeans 1 month ago
@melindagreenjeans ...Are you an idiot? She got a part in a movie. She's a "world renown dancer". In the ballet world that IS a ballet star. Do you know how hard it is to succeed in any way in ballet? Obviously you don't.
NailArtObsessor 1 month ago
@melindagreenjeans What in god's name is wrong with you? Can you really be this fucking stupid. That woman is a respected and accomplished ballet ARTIST! Do you have any idea how difficult an achievement that is?
IslandFuzz 1 month ago
@melindagreenjeans Sarah Lane is an extremely accomplished professional ballerina. Obviously she wouldn't have gotten the role if she "wasn't good enough". YOUR the one that needs to shut fuck up because you clearly don't even know what your talking about.
-.-
BoriGuANiCA 1 month ago
@melindagreenjeans What do you mean she's not a ballet star? Just world renowned and has danced with some of the Top ballet companies in the world. You are obviously very ignorant when it comes to knowing the amount of work and dedication it takes to be able to dance like Sarah.
pads41 4 weeks ago
It doesn't matter if this Sarah chick claims she did most of the dancing; Natalie deserved the award she obtained simply because her role in the movie, acting-wise, was fantastic. She acted well, and you really believed her performance. The fact remains that Sarah didn't act, she just did what she's good at: Dance. Portman deserves her award, and Lane deserves none of the credit for transforming "Nina" into the character she was at the end of the film.
caryandgina 1 month ago
@caryandgina Yeah, but if it weren't for Sarah, Portman never would have received an award. Have you no appreciation for true art?
pads41 4 weeks ago
I wasn't stupid, I knew it wasn't Natalie Portman. Sarah Lane get over it -.-
xPosumx 1 month ago
If you watch the DVD, the special effects guy mentions Sarah's name and how they put Natalie's face over her body, but it seemed like he said it by mistake, like, oops, did i just say that? Sarah deserves a lot of the credit for the transformation of whiny Nina into the Black Swan
Pereles1000 1 month ago
I totally understand Sarah's feelings about the movie. Ballet is absolutely the hardest thing to do and it is totally unfair that Natalie got the credit for something that she didn't. It is impossible to get that good at ballet in a year and a half. I do ballet and I agree with Sarah that it is degrading to the entire ballet world to say that someone can become a ballerina in a year in a half.
thechancetodance94 1 month ago
@thechancetodance94 Rubbish! Ballet is a matter of practice, you don't start out being good at it. It's no harder than anything else in particular. I would say Martial arts is harder than ballet, but that's just an opinion and it's no more true than what you've said. I could say guitar is harder than anything..... blah blah blah. As I said it's RUBBISH
melindagreenjeans 1 month ago
@melindagreenjeans I've done martial arts for years (tae-kwon do, karate, and jujitsu) and I have to say ballet IS harder than all of them combined. Also, she IS a star dancer - maybe not a principal, but she's a soloist at a really prestigious, renown ballet company. It's so competitive in the ballet world; to have made it as far as she did is an amazing accomplishment that hundreds strive for but very few obtain.
raccoonxeyesxx 1 month ago
@melindagreenjeans Not to mention that you actually CAN start out by being good at ballet. Ballet requires a very specific body type - small round head, hyperextended legs, flat chest, high arches, high insteps, great sense of musicality, great coordination, and a natural instinct for grace. Only 2% of the world population is born with all the specific bodily requirements for the world of professional ballet, and even with all that still very few make it into the top ranks.
raccoonxeyesxx 1 month ago
are u fucking stupid if you were told to shut your mouth about it then she was probably told to do the same, so i would shut the fuck up if i was u. And plus weren`t u paid extra for not telling anyone. Fuck i would be grateful. So u should shut the fuck up little dirty bitch. I LOVE U NATALIE PORTMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ABBYWAMBACHUSASOCCER 1 month ago
@ABBYWAMBACHUSASOCCER You're so delusional.. accept that your perfect Natalie DIDNT do the dancing in this movie. it is downright INSULTING to me and every ballet dancer to say that you can become a ballerina in a year. Thats bullshit. its downgrading the art of ballet and when in actual fact its a lot harder than you could ever imagine. go rewatch starwars you inconsiderate moron.
Sarah deserved more recognition. simple as that and even then she was willing to let it go if people hadnt of lied!
BellaNessieCullen 1 month ago
Fuck that girl should really shut the fuck up. Didn`t she get payed for doing the dancing, and didn`t everyone know, like the designers,lighting, actors, and everyone there who helped with the film, i say that's a lot of people who knows that she danced it. And plus maybe natalie couldn`t announce u to the world are u fucking stupid, what do you want, to ruin her career, hello she ain`t suppose to tell anyone, what do you expect if u were told not to tell anyone that she thanks u for dancing
ABBYWAMBACHUSASOCCER 1 month ago
I'm one of Natalie's biggest fans, but I can totally understand her body double's feelings and her need to speak out.
35deltagamma 1 month ago
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VioletAnneS 1 month ago
I think she was absolutely right to speak up. It's not fair to take credit for something you've not studied for 22 years!
etoilee8 1 month ago
@etoilee8 shut the fuck up bitch
ABBYWAMBACHUSASOCCER 1 month ago
@ABBYWAMBACHUSASOCCER You're insane :D
etoilee8 1 month ago
Oh and can we please address this VOICE? Nails on a chalkboard.
wonderfulmeeeeeee 1 month ago
THIS bitch needs to be backhanded. Natalie Portman is impressive. She worked hard for her Oscar. This "Sarah Lane" twat is a pretentious fool. And all those who think lesser of Natalie Portman after watching this interview are fools as well. I am honestly disgusted. Sarah Lane is an embarrassment. Go learn a real "art form," bitch.
wonderfulmeeeeeee 1 month ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee You don't know what you're talking about.That guy was right when he said most moviegoers don't know what real ballet looks like because there is NO WAY Portman could have learned to do fouettes en pointe or anything else in a year and a half. Pointe work takes years to master and build strength for. Also, ballet is not just about the big jumps or turns; it's about very small intricacies that ballerinas do with their hands, arms, feet, and head that one can't simply "pick up."
mhenry91 1 month ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee Speaking as a ballerina myself, I can understand this, but still appreciate Portman's performance because she did an amazing job. But giving her credit for something that takes a lifetime to master is an insult to dancers everywhere because it makes it seem like anyone can do it, and they can't.
mhenry91 1 month ago
@mhenry91 Actually, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Its you who's misinterpreting what I'm saying. This woman is an idiot. She is seeking media attention. She clearly does not give two flying fucks about the viewers of black swan. She wants attention and money, sweetie. And I do not consider ballet to be art. A sport, maybe, as it is physically grueling, but NEVER art. I think it is one of the most pretentious and obnoxious activities in existence.
wonderfulmeeeeeee 1 month ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee I just laughed sooo hard at you comment saying ballet is not art!!
first of all how can you say that? Have you ever danced?, have you ever been on pointe shoes? do you even know how horribly hard and painful it is? imagine bearing that pain in you feet while you try to put a pretty face and execute every move perfectly... a ballerina is an athlete that is able to generate an emotion, that is able to transmit beauty in every move... and that my friend, is called ART!
helterskelter1194 1 month ago
@helterskelter1194 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And Yes. For six years. And I hated every minute of it. The people were rude. They were uppity and snotty. Every tiny mistake I made, I was yelled at for, and for what? To spin around in tights? I believe that Art is something that is creative. I think Choreographers are artists, but not ballerinas. Athletes? Yes, absolutely. Artists? No way. Sorry. Just my opinion.
wonderfulmeeeeeee 1 month ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee I understand now where you are coming from, and I hate that you had that experience with ballet. It is true that teachers can be cruel and degrading, but I wish that you could have experienced the other side of ballet. What you said about choreographers being the artists is definitely true, and I agree with that, but there are some ballerinas out there who are artists because they interpret the choreography and make it their own. They pour their emotions into it, making it art
mhenry91 1 month ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee ok. I do respect your opinion, but I do believe it is art... but whatever, if you have danced and you didin´t like it you have all the right to hate it. ;)
helterskelter1194 1 month ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee Plus I'd like to know what you consider to be a "real art form."
mhenry91 1 month ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee I agree with mhenry 91 that you are very ignorant. Furthermore, those who use profanity as a way to express themselves are ... close-minded, stubborn, hard to get along with, annoying, uncreative, and most of all ... ignorant! Your username also shows that you are egocentric which is a turn off to most other people.
pads41 4 weeks ago
fuck her sarah
kickass2513 1 month ago
I understand where Sara Lane is coming from but anyone who actually watched the movie can tell that the great "acting" scenes were the ones in which the main character was fighting her own madness. Those scenes had nothing to do with dancing. I'm glad sara agreed that Natalie still deserved the oscar, but yes, it would have been respectful for them to at least acknowledge Sara Lane.
raycomb30294 1 month ago
who cares about who did most of the dancing .. it was a great movie and tats all tat matters :)
Buttohlicious 2 months ago
natalie should give sarah credit. my friend actually believed natalie did all the dance.......
101tanith 2 months ago
This girl is such an idiot, she was hired as a body double to a star. what did she expect, do be standing right next to natalie when she was accepting her oscar? Did she really think that Natalie would thank her if it meant diminishing Natalie's integrity in the role? Give me a break. Everyone knew that she must have had a body double- but the body double doesn't get to an equal parr with the lead actress.
timmcgrw4 2 months ago
@timmcgrw4 You can't say she's an idiot. If you spend time and effort dancing in a movie-because you love and because maybe you need some money, you would want some recognition. Dancing is so hard and I know I'm in pain a lot and I don't dance half as much as Sarah, so you can't call her an idiot. I heard some people actually thought there was no double, and Sarah just wanted people to know it was her. Natalie is awesome, but it's not fair to say that it was all Natalie.
MimisaysRAWR 1 month ago
@MimisaysRAWR The producers openly admitted that a double was used and they stated that it was Sarah Lane. They never tried to cover up that fact. What people choose to believe it up to them, but the producers never tried to cover that up. Sarah Lane signed her rights away and was compensated VERY WELL for the dancing she did. I'm sorry if she feels treated unfairly now but it sound like she is seeking a lot more recognition than she initially signed up for. She should have read the fine print.
timmcgrw4 1 month ago
@timmcgrw4 I think she just wanted people to know that she was the one who did most of the dancing. People are praising Natalie for being able to dance like a professional in a year and a half when Sarah has been dancing for over 20 years; it's insulting to her.
MusicIsLife101x 1 month ago
Maybe because Im into film, I never thought that was all Natalia. You cant just become this amazing prodigy for a movie role. Its no different then an action sequence. I mean people dont usually thank "body doubles". But for how much credit Natalie was getting FOR DANCING and not FOR ACTING, she probably should have a gave a little shout out. It wouldnt have hurt her any to do so.
lerinnenatalia 2 months ago
I get both sides, but honestly Natalie SHOULD HAVE DEFINITELY thanked her body-double for all of her hard worked and the fact that she made HER look SO GOOD in the movie.
As artists and respect, she should have recognized Sarah's hard work and thanked her, publicly.
It's like give me a break, you thanked the AD and the light technician but not your BODY DOUBLE ?? come on! Thats so cheap of her! The Oscar was in her hand! She won it! Should could have said anything!
londonpeachful 2 months ago
hahaha that baby voice!
OxcarOrtiz 2 months ago
Natalie is an amazing actress but shes not a dancer and ballet is NEVER perfected. This girl is right and if u think im wrong or stupid DEAL WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
RMWEAGLES17 2 months ago
Aw, poor girl :( I know that Natalie Portman worked hard but this girl is sweet and it's not fair.
axelrodxx 2 months ago
i think its unfair that Natalie should get all the credit..:L Sarah is amazing at dancing!
ardnaxela0802 2 months ago
i would love to be as amazing as her. shes amazing at dancing! <3
kenyajohnson7532 2 months ago
stupid girl! the oscars are not given to dancers, but actors. The movie is about the esquizofrenia suffered by the dancer. Her face and crying scenes ar the oscar winning parts of the movie!! this girl is just jealous.
Mcpepolino 2 months ago
I did like Natalie portman's role in the film and I think she did very well with her acting, but as a dancer it didn't take me two seconds to figure out that some of the dancing was by a double. It takes years of training to reach this standard and to be able to go on pointe. I read somewhere that from the waist up Natalie did all her own dancing but the shots of her legs were of a double, which makes sense.
jentaylor05 2 months ago
People she is just speaking up about the truth. I mean c'mon! face it,if your weren't mention during the award speech of course you will feel like a trash push aside. the reason why people vote of natalie is because she gave a stunning performance, not only that also the dance scenes.
1PrincessLittle 2 months ago
Ugh, who cares? Natalie Portman was the actress in the film- not Sarah. Of course she deserved the award. If you didn't do this for attention, Sarah, why are you talking now?!
NiceGirl024 2 months ago
But anyway Natalie´s acting was amazing and I think that´s what she got the oscar for!!!! <3
danceandsing00 2 months ago
Great! I am a dancer and people I meet are like "Wow to do stuff you do it´s taking 1 year practise!" And I am always like "WTF!? It takes over 10 years hard work! How you think 1 year?" "Because Natalie Portman became a dancer for Black Swan after just 1 year." I hate that commercial pretending!!! When they already made such a dramatic movie they should be honest about the real hard work a dancer has to do to get to the top.
danceandsing00 2 months ago
Oh my god. STFU pretentious dancing freaks. Natalie Portman deserved the Oscar. She probably didn't mention Sarah Lane because she's a fucking bitch. As seen in this interview.
wonderfulmeeeeeee 2 months ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee
I totally agree
Mcpepolino 2 months ago
@wonderfulmeeeeeee how can you tell that she's a 'bitch' she never gave that impression. Anyway did Sarah Lane at any point say Natalie didn't deserve the Oscar? no she didn't Sarah said why she was speaking up, because it was insulting and demeaning for her and other dancers as people were thinking that you could do that level of dancing with, in comparison ,ery lit
charlieflower101 1 month ago
@charlieflower101 To me, she does seem like a bitch. And she's speaking up for attention. Lets be real.This entire interview was bitchy. She has an attitude that is just intolerable.
wonderfulmeeeeeee 1 month ago
boy oh boy, do haters gotta hate...
LunarMonkey 2 months ago
Oh please! Dance doubles are like stunt doubles. These people don't receive much credit all the time! And this girl said that she didn't expect to receive big credit for her work but changed her mind after film's success. Do you guys got the point?
And Natalie really danced a lot because the majority of dancing scenes are upper body shots and it's definitely Natalie. And what about her transformed trained body? She did a hard work. Portman deserved an Oscar for sure
reercudi 2 months ago
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it's good that this talented performer spoke out when people were unfair to her but what makes me mad is that people are starting to minimize the fact that natalie portman won an oscar. sure the dancing had something to do with it but the oscars are for ACTING. natalie was absolutely phenomenal in this movie and while i disagree with her getting most of the credit for dancing, i still 100% think she deserved the oscar.
bethygan 3 months ago
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bethygan 3 months ago
also id like to add that with regards to Aronofsky it doesnt surprise me in the least, hes always come off as a cut-throat, snide kind of a person
quillber 3 months ago
seems like such a sweet, noble and talented lady. glad she spoke out.
quillber 3 months ago
Portman & Aronofsky have lied to everyone, and that's a fact !
Sarah Lane is just telling the plain TRUTH and that's also a fact !!!
Just open your fucking eyes !
landtimber17 3 months ago
as a part of the performing arts world, i thought that it's quite obvious that natalie portman didn't do most of the dancing. however, sarah lane acknowledged that she will not take much credit for her work, and it was only until the film gain much notice did she become almost bitter about the situation. i'd respect her more if she demanded to be acknowledged from the very beginning.
fuchion15 3 months ago
@fuchion15 It was after Aronofsky and Co. started exaggerating the amount of dancing Natalie did. They were going on and on about Natalie's great transformation into a ballerina. There are a lot of gullible people out there who don't know much about ballet and who believed it. This was very misleading and gave a wrong impression that it's possible to learn to dance like a ballerina in a year and a half and this is why Sarah Lane started talking. At least this way my impression.
jewelmarkess 3 months ago
@jewelmarkess i was not aware that was the case. now i fully see where the frustration stems from on sarah's part. thanks for the explanation. :)
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bballerina77 3 months ago
Natalie Portman is an actress, not a dancer, so she shouldn't be judged like one, but Sarah Lane should have been given more credit.
bballerina77 3 months ago
just read my whole comment so you'll get the point of an oscar
Vollidiot39 3 months ago
Come on Sarah, that's Hollywood, you got paid, just shut up already
Vollidiot39 3 months ago
Sarah has a point, I don't think that you could do a beautiful and extremely difficult pirouette after a year and a half, let alone perfecting the art of ballet, however, it was Sarah's job to do a double and she agreed to do the double. Natalie's job as a superb actress was supposed to be the focus on the film and not her dancing skills. Meryll Streep can't do ballet, Tom Hanks can't do ballet, Alec Baldwin can't do ballet, Amy Adams can't do ballet, why can't critics shut up?!?!?!?!
Vollidiot39 3 months ago
Natalie Portman, in my view, is one of the best actresses around right now.. Even that she did a year and a half of training and danced any of it is amazing!! Isn't it obvious they'd need a dance double? The idea that people think Natalie Portman should have been dancing to a professional standard really astounds me! If Sarah Lane was credited for her work then what's the problem? I bet the reason she had to stay quiet was because of the amount of people that don't realise how intense ballet is.
seonaidisatank 3 months ago
This what I don't like about this new generation of people......So I guess every stunt man or body double that has stood in for Will Smith or Brad Pit is going to come out and blast them.
MrWorldbefree 3 months ago
Wtf....that what she got paid for(to be a body double).......
MrWorldbefree 3 months ago
So Natalie didn't dance the whole film. Afronsky hired an ACTRESS not a dancer. She acted the part of a dancer and she acted it well. Both professions are gruelling. One is physical and one is emotional. Sarah is a beautiful dancer but she didn't act the part; she didn't bring Nina to life. She wasn't the one with the tears streaming down her face. She's nothing more than a stunt double. She's a very talented stunt double but that is what she was paid to do. Stunt doubles don't get aclaim.
hihicoture3 3 months ago
@hihicoture3 I agree with you
MrWorldbefree 3 months ago
amazing dancer but the greatness of the movie was all natalie. stop hating on her
karabrittanyking 3 months ago
wow. I would be pretty mad too! Ballet is very hard. Natalie has no idea. You guys would be mad too.
belladancer222 3 months ago
@belladancer222 I woudn't because I agreed to do the double. Read my comment on the video so you'll get my point
Vollidiot39 3 months ago
It isn't fair that Natalie Portman got the Oscar mainly cause of the dancing (that was the biggest and most spectacular part of the movie) and we weren't told she had a double. I mean after all why didn't they get a professional ballerina to play the role of the ballerina in Black Swan? I think that before giving the Oscar to Natalie and not the other great actresses people had to know this ''small detail''.. I totally believe that a year work can't do that.
margaritanoir 3 months ago
@margaritanoir .....you do not have to be told she had a body double.....just like when you see a will smith movie you do not have to be told he did not do the stunts....but a stuntman who was dress like him did it. It's a fucking movie.
MrWorldbefree 3 months ago
@MrWorldbefree Well the director told everyone that she did 80% of the dancing (see the video above) and people believed him.. One of the main reasons she got the Oscar was cause people believed she did that.. Sarah Lane got some credit for her work only after Portman won the Oscar.. and still if you read articles on the film noone mentions Sarah.. Portman is one of my favorite actresses but still BIG part of the movie was dancing which wasn't done by her.. PERIOD
margaritanoir 3 months ago
Portman is a bitch.
landtimber17 3 months ago
"There are Oscar voters who say they would not have voted for Natalie if they knew she didn't do all of the dancing." Are you kidding me Oscar voters!!!?? RED FLAG a years worth of ballet training dosen't equate the decades a seasoned ballerina has spent training...Its obvious she had a double. I know Natalie Portman is a talented actress, but since when has she or anyone else performed miracles? Jesus dosen't count. I hope Natalie thanked technology and digital enhancing during her acceptance.
MrOCbrian 3 months ago
I'm a HUGE fan of the movie and ballet dancer myself but I'm not so sure about this whole thing. Was Sarah's name in the movie credits as a double? If it is, then she shouldn't complained. She IS after all, just like stunt double and got paid to do her job. But I can see why she would speak up though. Poor girl.
banana2510 3 months ago
She's a beautiful dancer.
sarahnesthesia 3 months ago
she's just a jealous bitch
mcpmmc 3 months ago
this stupid bitch just wants fame
mcpmmc 3 months ago
ammm sooo ?? what ever natalie was the one actin soo ..
mcpmmc 3 months ago
wat?? so true!!!
danceisme29 3 months ago
wat??
danceisme29 3 months ago
this girl got paid. her name was put out there... omg shut up... do your job and be happy they even chose you. people can be so selfish!!!
clsyckpnst 3 months ago
I NEVER THOUGHT IT WAS NATALIE PORTMAN!!!! And I never thought it could possibly be her. She is an actress and she did her job in acting like she could dance. Every time I watch a movie it is usually never the actual actor when it comes to stunts. Because their insurance will not let them do anything that may get them hurt or keep them from shooting the movie. I have never seen any actor thank their stunt man so this girl should have known better.
inu4moon4 3 months ago
Anyone who's watched the "extras" on the DVD would know that the CGI group who worked on this film superimposed Natalie's face on Sarah's body in the full length dance shots . They show exactly how they did it, and fully admitted to it. Anyone who claims a person can "relearn" how to be a ballerina has no idea what they're talking about. I took ballet for 12 years as a kid ... many of my fellow classmates and I would be hard pressed to look like prima ballerinas after all these years ...
JennyJennyBoomBoom 3 months ago
shutup. jealousy much?
xxdufffxx 3 months ago
Also people talking about stunt men... ballet isn't a stunt, it's an art, Natalie is basically taking credit for Sarah's art.
Lucyballet1994 3 months ago
@Lucyballet1994 uh, sarah got paid. Portman isn't a professional dancer. Seems like this other girl is seeing how much praise the movie is getting and so now wants to act like she got did wrong.
Blastaar7 3 months ago
@Lucyballet1994 Yes but in the context of a movie, it's the proper analogy. It's like Robert DeNiro having a professional boxer be his body double in Raging Bull.
Antrizzle2009 1 month ago
@Antrizzle2009 Well in my opinion as a dancer, I find it extremely degrading and insulting that the people working on black swan claimed Natalie became a ballet dancer in a year and half, it takes years and years to master. And I have literally heard people talking about it myself, people actually believe she is a prima ballerina.
Lucyballet1994 1 month ago
@Lucyballet1994 First of all let me say, I have nothing respect for ballerinas and what they do. I realize they dedicate their entire lives to their crafts. Secondly, I feel that they solely promoted it this way for Oscar season. Now coudl they have handled it better? Yes. Personally I think Portman deserved the Oscar for her acting in the film and it shoudln't have been an issue of her doing the actual dances. Jamie Foxx didn't do all the singing in Ray, yet he still won the Oscar.
Antrizzle2009 1 month ago
@Antrizzle2009 fair enough, it just annoys me that other people have no respect -.- she's an amazing actress, but to be honest I didn't like the way the film portrayed the ballet world in general
Lucyballet1994 1 month ago
@Lucyballet1994 Well I think the ballet word was just used as the backdrop. This plot could have very easily been used for a sports movie or any premise in which the main character is striving for perfection and ultimately drives themselves crazy in that pursuit. If anything, I would think as a ballerina, are you at least happy that this movie has brought attention to your art form? An art form that many casual viewers would normally not care about?
Antrizzle2009 1 month ago
@Lucyballet1994 sorry, I mean to say "nothing BUT respect for ballerinas and what they do"
Antrizzle2009 1 month ago
@Lucyballet1994 I agree. People can be so ignorant! Natalie said she took ballet lessons as a child, but she certainly wasn't dancing on pointe. Most ballet instructors won't let their students wear toe shoes until the bones in their feet have developed - around the age of 16.
pads41 4 weeks ago
@pads41 thank you, someone who understands! There's no way Natalie became a ballet dancer in a year and a half, there's no way she'd even be allowed en pointe after a year and a half -.- Sarah Lane's a true artist, Natalie should stick to the acting.
Lucyballet1994 4 weeks ago
ok, really Sarah? I too am a professional ballet dancer and if I had been hired to be Natalie's double I would be quiet. Of all the action movies you have seen how many times have you heard from the body double who throws themselves in front of a bus or off a building? You don't. That is their job and what they get paid for. Ridiculous!!!
racerchickful 3 months ago
@racerchickful amen to that
ainafetse1990 3 months ago
@racerchickful you're so right!
yac4ceha3 3 months ago
If she didnt do the movie for credit/recognition..she lied to herself! She should have made it clear that she wanted credit or at least have them made it clear it was important to her...
Also if you watch interviews with natalie and mila they both say how hard ballet dancing is and how they could never fully do it...
Also what's wrong with her voice??
XoJackieLuvsRonniexo 3 months ago
The fact that a producer called Sarah Lane and told her to keep quiet until after the Oscars is despicable, and the fact that all these months later there's been no public apology or official recognition from the film makers of the actual work Sarah Lane did is ridiculous. Giving her credit doesn't diminish Natalie's acting ability. It was brave of Sarah to speak up - good for her!
broadwaybaby1594 3 months ago
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benjsinister 4 months ago
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benjsinister 4 months ago
@benjsinister Natalie used to be a professional ballet dancer? Don't be ridiculous. She's got no turnout, stiff upper body and arms, little port de bras and epaulement, she wasn't even doing pointe work for goodness sake...
Lucyballet1994 3 months ago
@benjsinister No, Natalie was never a professional ballet dancer. She danced until the age of 10. Her role on broadway was acting, not dancing.
JennyJennyBoomBoom 3 months ago
aw shes cute
fashionistachica 4 months ago
I don't understand how the dancing some how affects whether or not Natalie should have gotten the Oscar. She did an amazing job as an actress... If the Academy would have given the award to someone else because she didn't dance as much in the film they are fickle. But then, I guess that comes with the territory. The dancing was beautiful and powerful, but Natalie's performance is what REALLY sunk in while watching the film. It's sad both women can't be credited for their craft without drama.
lilybackwards 4 months ago
@jamieokay
She didn't originally get offended, until people thought Natalie did ALL the dancing. She wasn't complaining, she was just trying to let people know what really went down. Period. She is, by no means looking down on Natalie or anyone, but just simply trying to shed light on this matter.
If you are a professional dancer, you would know how it feels when credit is given to someone who doesn't FULLY deserve it.
Don't get me wrong, Natalie deserved her Oscar.
AaronYLeung 4 months ago
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AaronYLeung 4 months ago
PEOPLE:
Sarah Lane is not complaining, stop bashing Sarah. I, for one, thought Natalie deserved her Oscar winning regardless of her dancing. However, Sarah Lane interviewed only to shed light and awareness that Natalie did not do most of the dancing, she is, by no means, criticizing Natalie. Period. Do you guys actually watch the whole interview before judging people?
Both Sarah and Natalie did an incredible job. I DO however, think Sarah deserved more credit though.
AaronYLeung 4 months ago
Both Natalie and Sarah did an incredible job & should have been acknowledged for the two different performances, one for acting and the other for dance. Two complete different acts, which both took an immense amount of time and effort in order to get where they are today. One is not better then the other, they have both worked just as hard just in different areas. It was wrong for Natalie to take credit for the dance. TAKE CREDIT FOR THE ACTING. Let Sarah take credit for the dancing!
cheerbabyy1 4 months ago
I know Sarah's aunt, and it is true that Natalie danced hardly any of it.
There is a difference between a professional dancer, and Natalie, who only danced a little over a year in order to prepare for Black Swan. The expression and level of dancing shown in Black Swan could have only been expressed and portrayed by Sarah. The reason why Sarah spoke out was for some recognition of her hard work, which she deserves. She wouldn't have if they had given her more credit then just a "stunt man"
cheerbabyy1 4 months ago
Ok, Sarah wanted to be more recognized... that's cool, but it was OBVIOUS that Natalie didn't do the hard dance parts but I don't understand all this, The Ballet was a part of the movie but we're also looking how Portman gives life to a girl that's going insane to achieve perfection... Yes Sarah, your Fouettes were great but it wasn't YOU who reflected the evil in the Black Swan dance... it was NATALIE, you didn't cry, you didn't do the acting HARD PARTS... you are an OPPORTUNIST.
Kumagoro17 4 months ago
@Kumagoro17 No one said she did the acting, she danced most of the hard parts. And if you were a dancer you'd know how hard it is. ANYONE would be angry if they did such a large role for a movie and get ignored for it. How dare you call her an opportunist.
killbunnysforbois 4 months ago
@killbunnysforbois I dare to call her an opportunist BECAUSE I CAN! I said... She wanted to get more recognized and that's cool, and yes... I DANCE TOO! Not ballet but Contemporary dance so I KNOW what dancing means... and HOW HARD IT IS! And that's MY OPINION! I NEVER SAID THAT SHE SHOULDN'T GET MORE RECOGNIZED YES IT WAS LAME! BUT IN THE END HER WORK IS RECOGNIZED BECAUSE SHE'S GREAT BUT I MEAN MOVE ON!!! READ BEFORE SPEAK!!!
Kumagoro17 4 months ago
obviously natalie was en pointe but her acting was great
ikate2 4 months ago
i think Natalie's acting alone could have won her the Oscar :)
chichigirrl2 4 months ago
I loved the film.... but I have to agree wit' the ballerina.... the obvious sign was that most of Natalie's dance sequinces were shot from the waist up.... and whenever it was a full body shot.... she was far away from the camera.... but all and all... the dancer should've gotten some credit because the dances were amazing....
UrbanEsta 4 months ago
I'm not on either side here but SOME people commenting are saying that she wanted credit or she wanted to be thanked or whatever.. she just wanted people to know that a year of ballet doesn't make you dance like that.. 22 years does. She probably thought that thinking that way would help with the argument "ballet isn't a real sport, it isn't challenging.." when indeed it is.. To be as good as the character in the movie it takes MANY MANY years. not one intense year.
WGDiaries 4 months ago
I can understand the double,she is searching for justice..but:Natalies's face,is Natalie's face with her mimic and incredibly beautiful features and it was her expressive face that was seen the most in this movie.
AZZGIRL87 4 months ago
lol. since when do stunt doubles get thanked in oscar speeches? she should be thankful she got this opportunity. what a whiner.
lesmisperson 4 months ago
The assumption that Natalie became a professional ballerina in just a year and film makers telling Sarah to keep quiet is very dishonest, and is a BIG reason why she won her Oscar.
JMBInuYasha 4 months ago
Sarah Lane wasn’t properly credited. “Background Actor” was used instead of “Stunt Double”, and “Lady in the Lane” was used instead of Sarah’s real name isn’t why she’s upset. Claims that Natalie did almost all her own stunts, suppression of evidence that would go against that, and Natalie completely leaving Sarah out of her acceptance speech is the reason she’s speaking out.
JMBInuYasha 4 months ago
The Dancing was Great. But the performance all around by her acting was UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! Credit should go to the dancer =for her Ballet. But the oscar and the Best performance of the movie was HER ACTING BY FAR!!!!
SuperJuiceman11 4 months ago
Not giving full credit to someone when its due, is plagiarism, whether the work is literature, art, acting or dancing. Sarah's just saying that while Natalie did do most of the acting, she did most of the dancing.
The main point is: no one can learn 22 years of ballet in only a year, and there's a difference between seeking fame and getting credit.
JMBInuYasha 4 months ago
@JMBInuYasha They gave her credit in the credits twice. Honestly, the best part was Natalies Acting. Yeah the dancing was nice, but the ending wasn't Sarah, the ending didn't make me hold my breath because of dancing, because guess what? It wasn't dancing. Natalie starved for the film, so I find this whole, "I did this. She didn't" stuff stupid. Natalie has won awards since she was 11, so fuck the dancing.
legitcyrus 4 months ago