Masada

[ApostlesoYahwehUnite]

Great video! Thanks for posting it! I love Jesus.

[lions1178]

I like, but why can't ya'll ever tell the people the truth about these people being black, or ancestors of African Americans. I hate Liars and Theives

[ZviJ1]

@lions1178 The truth is unfortunately that u had been indoctrinated into believing the ancient Jews & Israelites were black. Yet in the entire Tanakh (Jewish Bible) only 2 black persons are mentioned as being somehow realted to Israelites and they're referred by the "niggro" (Kushi) appellation.

Those who inculcate this nonsense in others are *racist* liars and thieves of identity trying to cast non-black Jews as fake Jews while they cast themselves as the true Israelites.

[ZviJ1]

@lions1178 Try not to take my comment personally. I've got not ill will toward you. Peace....

[Israeltekhelet]

The families that braved it at Masada inspire good people everywhere. Thank G-d we have a Jewish Home on Eretz Israel.

[Israeli92]

masada shall not fall again!

[ImperialGuard9001]

The Intro of the movie seams to be like propaganda kind I mean do realy jews can streched back to their suposed ancestors after centuries of migration into other lands do realy jews of today descend of those jews of Ancient Isreal and Judae or they more a mixture? One of things I can see that JEws didnt remain "pure" is the fact that many jews today look pretty much "White" even with blond hair and blue eyes etc and not semitic at all

[mixxmexx]

@ImperialGuard9001 another Islamic fanatic in disguise

[ImperialGuard9001]

@mixxmexx Funny I didnt mention fanatism at all what I said is well researched and back up by sources search for yourself isntead of calling another fanatic ironical that the ones that call other fanatics are the fanatics themselfs...

[ZviJ1]

@ImperialGuard9001 You're still unable to discern what truly well researched means in this field. Maybe this will change as you get older though. If you're willing to let contrasting facts and evidence to confuse you, that is.

[ZviJ1]

@ImperialGuard9001 You're obsessed with race vis-a-vis Jews, a hallmark of anti-Jewish racism.

If you had researched the issue of "Semitic looks" before posting your inane comment, you probably would've produced a much more intelligent posting. From the very beginning there were instances of reddish hair (e.g. King David) nd blue, gray or green eyes among Western Semites. I've seen one (black) Lemba man with blue eyes for crying out loud.

[ZviJ1]

@ImperialGuard9001 @ImperialGuard9001 On your path to enlightment you should also study the ancient Egyptian drawings of Western Semites - they depict *White-skinned* individuals, at least one being blue-eyed.

Of course former gentiles entered the Jewish people as converts,- this being the most pronounced probably among the Ehiopian Jews.

[ZviJ1]

@ZviJ1 (Ctnd.)

Even genetic flow of ~1% per generation over a millennium is enough to render many persons of an entire people blue-eyed and blond-haired. But only racists complain that the Jews didn't remain "pure". Go figure.

[JerryKitich]

an army travels by cable car? what kind of army is that...

[kirby4d]

If the Arab Muslims get their way, there will be another Masada...

[ZviJ1]

-Ctnd.-

It's hilarious that someone like *you* that talks about "steel" and mutters uncontrollably nonsense about "western rationalism science & work ethic" to name 2 examples attributes to *me* indoctrination when I'm much more free thinking... LMFAO

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp: That's horses**t -- it's not your mere being a gentile that earns you these insults and I believe you even *know* that. I also believe you're aware that some Jews are anti-Semitic,- even Holocaust deniers. This is the *fact*; if you don't wish to acknowledge it... f--- off.

[ZviJ1]

-Cntd.-

who said we collectively hold a grude against the Romans anymore than all the descendents of Germanic and Celt tribes under Roman occupation begrudge the Romans, you nincompoop? These clips will keep on being featured on YouTube and elsewhere in spite of your hate-filled dribble. Get used to it. :)

[ZviJ1]

-Contd. -

Remind us, how does your rabid anti-Jewish nonsensical yapping register as western rationalism science & work ethic?

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 It registers because i don't claim absolute certainty - I thus can adapt because I am reducing error through learning - you believe, that is if you believe in the concept of "faith" that reading one old book solves all problems - more than this - an extreme interpretation of the Torah say's that describing the Torah as describing the world - is anti-semetic - in that fundermentalist view of Judaism the Torah "creates the world" - that is irrational mysticism - not western science method.

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp : Most westerners reading your garbage are revulted by the morbid crap you're spouted. In any case, much of your drivel is highly amusing.

Nazoids will never triumph.

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 What is so amusing is that you just cannot help yourself going on a superiority trip - if my arguements where so blunt why not debate them - wit is sharp that is why you avoid - the fear in yourself is that you may not like what you find in paradox within your own arguments - so you just name call - look at the vids I sent you and then say if you think I am a Nazi.

I was not aware that you knew the whole western population or that they had seen my comment - your unreality is amusing.

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp: There's no point in deeply debating nonsense, and serious debate isn't an appropropriate reaction to rabid racist haters like you. I can't help it that being a reasonable ordinary person puts me in a superior position to some Nazoid. And I won't I watch your vids.

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp: Forgot to mention - the cat's out of the bag. You're honest enough as a Nazoid hater of Judaism and its adherents and a proponent of a miniature, vastly weakened Israel (a natural potentional product of the efforts expended by the EU, UN and Obama) to apologize for and even lionize the Roman rape perpetrated upon ancient Israel and its indigenous Jewish inhabitants. This tells me all I need to know about your departure point.

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1

Every culture has faced rape torture & extermination - the Normans tried to exterminate the English people & rape our women - the Norman right of rape before marriage - premuim-nocturn - we did not subject our Children to indoctrination by making every Victory or defeat part of our religion!

Listen to me you demented fanatic - your hating & yet saying I hate - did you make 2 vids on helping the Jewish people - No - you just bitch whine & scream your fanatism; your own worst enemy!

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 How are you as israeli's strong if you have 400 nuclear weapons - so what your economy without European Union & USA aid on its knees - what are you going to do without war put Ploughs on the back of Merkava tanks? Get real - wake up & smell the coffee you have to buy with our aid money - the EU bankrolls Israel & the Palastinians you don't think in helping you that we don't want a return on our money - you are in debt - pay in peace - our soldiers are fighing not only for EU UK & US but u

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 Your lack of respect for & gratitude to the West & especially EU & US is deeply disturbing - you must be the only Israeli to not recognize that we have paid in money, in blood of our soldiers & intelegence operatives to keep you safe - is that not reported. You are like the old French resistance guys who think that D-Day was insignificate & that they alone beat the Nazi's

Hagana started off blowing up the King David hotel just because we kept the peace - then we fight Iraq & we racists?

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp: Ummmm, listen up you Naziboy: I haven't read all the statements in your 3 recent comments and won't grace your poisonous comments with any more specific attention, you deranged miscreant. Anyone that wastes you will have performed a great service for humanity in ridding it from a cockroach's presence. Your PMs and comment notifications et. will be deleted unopened.

[ZviJ1]

PS: You barely know me or my positions about the west, so the drivel you're spouting only underscores for decent readers here just how off the deep end you are. That you as a white nationalistic jingoistic South African speak in the name of Britons and the US just betrays the grand extent to which you're a buffoon. Trying to pass yourself off as a much greater figure than you are betrays your puny reality.

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 You really are a pathetic person - you don't agree with someone so you MAKE DEATH THREATS you fucking twat - I am going to have you blocked from youtube you threaten my life you filthy scum! - my mate was in the IDF - you call me anti-Jewish - no I am anti-Zionist-endtimer - you idiot you are there first victims - those are the same people as Thatcherites in UK who run the BNP - the British Nazi Party - I hate those scum - fuck you & the monkey you dance with!

You cant joke with fanatics

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp : YouTube personnel aren't dumb twits like you. They can tell the difference between actual death *threats* and the contortion that's occurred within your mind to make you believe I've threatened you. Unlike at your Nazoid South African party, YouTube personnel will hear my side too and render a fair decision. Don't even go there....

[ZviJ1]

@ZviJ1 : PS - the reason I keep coming back to this webpage is because I love re-hearing the spectacular music. Otherwise you wouldn't have gotten rejoinders for most of your comments.

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 You need to moderate your tone - you cannot go around even on the internet saying you hope folks will be assassinated - now as I said before I have Israeli subscribers who have looked at the vid on adding a new Jewish state to the Horn of Africa & gave positive reviews - what are you going to do in 50 years with all the re-turning Jews - make them live in tower blocks in these fortress like west bank settlements - just me but I would rather have a villa in Ethiopia than get shot at by PLO

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp I'll utilize the tones I see fit to and do not take orders from benighted a**holes like you that lionize the totally unjustified Roman occupation and rape of ancient Israel, which is almost as bad as glorifying the Nazi perpetration of the Holocaust and the remainder of Nazi aggression.

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 Is WW2 the only point of reference you have - you should forget that & try & build a modern state so your children have a better life - your insults are weak & I won't be told what to do by an immature fanatic - gain some experience of life then perhaps you will have some opinions of your own without vomiting up doctrines hammered into you by your teachers & drill instructors

Again I am trying to help you but its getting frustrating! You cannot bring dead back to life - live your life

[ZviJ1]

To "infokemp": I see you're such a cretin that you can't avoid hyper-stupid generalizations about Jews and outright slander with a tenuous foundation in reality (you're probably stoned most of the time anyway). we don't need to read your lathering & mouth-blastered racist crap to know this.

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 I made an analysis of two parts of the Jewish religion - the western rationalist humanist branch vs Zionist-endtimer branch - how is that a generalization by definition it is two distinct seperate versions - now Israel was set up as a broadly secular state - even asking Einstein a Atheist to be its president - what relation has that concept got to do with the modern monstrosity which is as much at war with its self as its neighbors. Does not let left wing Jews settle!

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 So i must be a - Nazi - a racist - a cretin - if I do not agree with you?

You are not open to debate - you decided as soon as you realized I was not jewish that these insults must describe me - if I was jewish & said these things - would I still be a - Nazi - a racist - a cretin - your whole view is based on indoctrination - I want to help Israel to be a normal country but with a jewish majority - if because I am Nordic-Celtic - that makes me a racist in your view - you are undemocratic

[infokemp]

Face it the Romans slaughtered you like dogs stop trying to fool yourselves into thinking it was a victory.

That is shameful - just as at Hastings & Dunkirk we in England had to see that we faced defeat before we knew reality.

You as all irrational middle-eastern religious fanatics will learn the Roman lesson that western rationalism science & work ethic overcomes your irrational nonsense.

Rome - harsh but civillized it enslaved Germans & Celts but we don't hold a grudge - put it behind you.

[infokemp]

@infokemp Judea learned what all the irrational Middle-eastern's need to learn - that if you don't except western rationalism in place of your pathetic mystical religious nonsense you will taste our steel - Zionist-end-timers still talk about Masada as something to be proud of as though the Roman's actually where impressed by Judea killing own wives & children rather than letting them live as Roman captives - maybe right but you just saved Romans the work. Romans + Saxons = EU US & English

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp : Your jackbooted, goosestepping barbarian "Uebermensch" mystical nonsense is better than our glorious religion? Your mentors, the Nazis, would be proud of your irrational tripe.

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 "Mystism" comment by me was in reference to Rabbi Tatz dialouges on the Zionist-endtimer view of conflict - the masada poison drinkers obviously where not of the modern Humanist school of Judaism - Vienna tradition - so there my friend you are in league with Hitler as he to critised the Humanist Tradition of Judaism - humanist tradtion I respect.

Nothing "Glorious" about religion - it is nonsense & the reason you & the Jihadists are savagely hacking each other to pieces

Make Peace idiots

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp : Yup... it was only time before some Nazoid goosestepper, Hitler-wannabe like you would emerge from the gutter or pit you crawled out of and pollute this space with your rabid jackbooted tripe.

I don't intend to spend the entire day or days on end slapping you around since I've got things I rather do that I enjoy much more than talking with a Hitler-wannabe on this site. So you can have the last word. Not that it'll accomplish anything against me... you can't even *try* to harm me.

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 Barbarian? Proudly I am of barbarian & Roman heritage - if you want to know who ancestors did Mossada & whose folk will capture & hang the Binladan & Saudi crime families - look no further - when you ask what happened to the Saxon's & Romans & Celts look at a European US or EU or British & we say you are looking at them buddy

US where on the moon with our rockets while you and the arabs where destroying each other with your rockets - u not forgot Massada we've not forgot King David Hotel

[infokemp]

@ZviJ1 We are not uncivillized - we respect the Natural & Economic Human rights & we don't call foreign women slave girls - unlike you Jews & Arabs.

EU wants you to make peace take that opportunity.

Your list of friends in this world is growing thinner & thinner - you know you might want to start helping yourselves by not excluding socialist & Humanist Jews from settling in Israel - the Israeli labor party wants peace - why do you think it is that the EU want to help Israeli labor win?

[infokemp]

@infokemp When the Romans arrived for a siege of a citidel outside of Jersulalem they met proud Judean's who said "these walls have never been breached & we have cut down our trees so that you who are against God will not scale over them - we will never surrender for we are Gods special Chosen people" - The Roman General replies "& how much food do you have to sustain you" proud Judean said " more than 12 years worth praise God" Roman replied "then we will except your surrender in the 13th year"

[infokemp]

@infokemp Continued - the Judeans - surrender immediately. Smart move because the Romans faced with jerusalems walls simply built a ramp as wide & higher than the walls & did a full scale assault - moral of the story is your irrational Middle-eastern religion can not overcome Western Science work ethic & ingenuity.

If anyone who is not European asks me "what happened to the Celts Romans & Saxons" I always say - your looking at them pal.

Forever live the Western world

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp : I see you also spam your racist dribble....

[ZviJ1]

@infokemp : YAWNNN

[chevyvictor]

Pro wheres part 2,3,4 etc? i was enjoying that

[delta100]

I visite Massada at six years ago. It'a very impressive place!

[kanaiboded]

The fall auf Jerusalem took place in 69 CA and not in 70 CA

[knightsofstjoan2004]

@kanaiboded=I'm sorry but for your information The Fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Temple took place in 70 A.D. according to historians.

[BoydTheMilkmanX]

It's a Hollywood movie. Cornelius Flavius Silva wasn't the name of the General that broke Masada, it was really Lucius Flavius Silva. But who gives a fuck about the inconsistencies?

[dajokn19]

The Romans needed one of those lifts lol

[dajokn19]

That fortress was like Minus Tirith in real life.

[BoydTheMilkmanX]

More like Helms deep.

[kanaiboded]

Minas Tirith ;)

[BoydTheMilkmanX]

@kanaiboded Minas Tirith was a city though, not a fortress.

[arveduilastking]

It did fall though...Masada that is...

[weisserabfall]

hollywoods never been good at historical accuracy,thanks though good know though

[lexusalex22]

CRAP

[Israeli92]

masada shall not fall again!

[forfaraway1]

@Israeli92 There are NO Zealots left to defend it.It is now in the hands of Rome.

[Israeli92]

@forfaraway1 don't be so pessimistic my friend. their are zealots among us, one day we shall be zealots. but dont take my word for it, God swore to us that no matter what the redemption shall happen, the redemption is not a choice it is something that must and will happen.

[forfaraway1]

@Israeli92 The Zealots were the last free Jews. Rome owns Israel and has heathenized those who still call themselves Jews.The Zealots insisted only God be called lord,you have the same Roman lords in your law courts as the rest of the world.Masada has no need to fall again,its taken.You are all Roman slaves one and ALL.

[DrCruel]

The methods would be similar - conquest, enslavement and genocide. And it would not be the Seljuk Turks that would permanently sweep the Byzantine Romans out of Judea, but Muslim Arabs - a group that would likewise destroy the civilization of the Sassanids and their Zoroastrian religion.

[DrCruel]

Western Roman civilization was overwhelmed by barbarian tribes from the east, many of them Germanic, and certainly not all of them "cavalry civilizations". But what would ultimately destroy the remaining Romans, the Byzantines, would not be the Sassanids but the Muslims - many of them being, indeed, Seljuk and Ottomans.

[DrCruel]

Romans weren't "liberals". They did not shy from genocide. If they butchered an entire people, they would proudly advertise the fact.

The Jewish people let the Romans know that they preferred death to conquest and slavery. The Romans simply obliged, as per their standard operating procedure. It would be Arab Muslim fanatics, not the Jews, who would eventually sweep the heirs of the Romans (ie, the Byzantines) out of the region, mainly by using similar methods.

[Prometheo1]

The Romans were multiculturalists, and in a certain sense liberal - so long as people didn't challenge their rule or mess with their Empire, they'd leave them alone. Alexander did the same thing.

But you're right about the Roman propensity to use extreme violence to protect their interests.

Bar Khokbah and his army almost beat them and would've done so were it not for the traitors among the Jews. Just like today.

Heinlein said that violence has settled more disputes than anything else.

[ImperialGuard9001]

@Prometheo1 They werent liberals but you could say they were multiculturalists to a certain degree.I mean you still had the Romanazation so they did persecuted culture that was seen as treat to Romanazation the idea was to turn people into Romans.

[nobbytang]

@Prometheo1

The 3rd time rome flattened israel was after another uprising and as you know the war was mainly a guerilla war and the defending of heavily fortified posistions . There were no full scale set battles , if there had been it would of been over far quicker . If the romans deployed into battle lines on a flat area then every enemy fell including britons , macedonians , greek , gaul and germanic foes - the new israel learnt that when surrounded by enermies use a hammer to smash a nut

[He101A]

Roman power was destroyed by cavalry civilizations from Eurasia. The Huns and the Goths destroyed the western half of the Roman Empire. The eastern half was greatly weaken by the Sassanid Empire, and later by the Arab Caliphate. It was completely destroyed by the Seljuks and the Ottoman Turks later on.

[ImperialGuard9001]

@DrCruel Well the Arab Muslims didnt genocide anyone.

[DrCruel]

The African peoples beg to differ.

[Greyshark09]

@ImperialGuard9001

How about Kurds ? How about each other ?

[soho2409]

Why don't they make series like this anymore? :((

"Yes, Masada shall not fall again! "

QFT!

[Jewishfan]

The final reference to modern Israel appears to be particularly touching!

Yes, Masada shall not fall again!

[antracyt44]

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[knightsofstjoan2004]

Daniel 9:24-26 speaks about the appointed time of the Messiah. He had to come be crucified and resurrect on the third day before the destruction of the Second Temple. Yeshua (JESUS) was crucified, resurrected and ascended around 30 A.D. or 33 A.D. and later in 70 A.D., the Roman Army under General Titus smashed Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Jewish Temple in fulfillment of that prophecy.

[Nightshift10000]

You know I love what the Israelis did at Masada, They fought hard for their Liberty and They made the Romans pay dearly for attempting to take it away from them but I can not say the those Israelis achieved True Victory. In a great many ways They were Like the Spartans at Thermophily and The Texans at the Alamo but the only reason they did not achieve True Victory is they died by their own swords instead of Fighting to the very last of Them. I'm sorry but there was no glory in their end.

[Prometheo1]

There are many who think that they didn't kill themselves but were slaughtered by the Romans. Josephus is reliable for his reporting but may have said that those at Masada killed themselves so that his Roman masters would allow him to publish the remarkable historical accounts that are the basis for this film.

The fact is that after 1,910 years Jews returned to the land and began the process of reclaiming it. 60 years later, we are still in this process but will eventually have sovereignty.

[Nightshift10000]

I hope that You are right about the Jews at Masada not taking their own lives but Fighting to the last Man. If what You say is true then Yes They were truely brave and did achieve a True and Honest Victory in THeir sacrifice. And Yes the Jews of today are a Great and Noble People and have done all the Honor has demanded of Them if not More. I truely hope You are right about Masada.

[Prometheo1]

There are good reasons to believe they didn't kill themselves; and even better reasons to suspect that Josephus reported it that way so his books would get published.

Those books show the historical Jewish connection to the land, rendering irrelevant the illegitimate claims to the Land of Israel by people who never existed in until 1964.

Modern media technology and psychology, have been used to create the widespread acceptance of fictitious ancient people. "62,400 reps = 1 truth" (Huxley)

[Hallenbach]

I dont see that it makes the slightest difference. If the fought the Roman 10th legion on the slopes of Masada, not all of them would have been killed. Some would have been captured and returned to Rome to Parade in Silva's Triumph. Better to go down by your own hand than to prodded for sport by the Roman public. The "glory" of the Triumph would hardly have been worth the cost. They had won a rock in the middle of desert on the shores of a poison sea, and nothing else after all those years

[infokemp]

@Prometheo1 The Israeli's do need a country of their own it is a human right to self determination - but not an exclusive right - that is why Israel is hated as a country abroad - now if the Israeli's choose wisely at the polls they can elect the less extreme Israeli labor party work with the EU & get peace - at least in Israel voters have that right to vote even though it is done through religious pressure - Arabs in the Gulf don't have any right to vote.

[infokemp]

@Prometheo1 Israeli's do need a country of their own it is a human right to self determination - but not an exclusive right - that is why Israel is hated as a country abroad - now if the Israeli's choose wisely at the polls they can elect the less extreme Israeli labor party work with the EU & get peace - at least in Israel voters have that right to vote even though it is done through religious pressure - Arabs in the Gulf don't have any right to vote.

[Hallenbach]

Of course , it stands to reason that the Jews in the fortress probably knew full well that if they remained entrenched on the summit, they would meet their deaths. It appears they were given opportunities to disperse but refused. Not to depricate their actions but I though self harm was contrary to their Hebrew religion? Perhaps I'm in error. If not, it does not appear that the Alamo or a Kamikaze analogy is appropriate, since the Jews here died by their own hands not in combat.

[tibherius]

@Nightshift10000 great and noble as noble as barck obama getting the nobel prize thats how  great and noble they are

[Hallenbach]

If the Jews here were after a Piric victory, then they can say that they worried an entire Roman Legion and theyre Auxilla for years. Cost them more Denarii, men and equipment than they bargined for. The Judeans lost over 20,000 dead during the siegen of Jerusalem; had there Temple burnt and desocrated, with countless more reduced to slavery. Lets hope now they have a place they can call home to live in peace. Forever and ever. Amen.

[BasTafariJudah]

"We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us." (Golda Meir) Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel, the Palestinians and their Arab neighbours: -If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. -If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.

[Prometheo1]

Beautiful Soul! Are you in Israel?

Thank you for this comment.

kol tuv...

[BasTafariJudah]

In about two months I hope to make Aliyah. I am in Amsterdam right now. You in Israel ?

[Prometheo1]

Kol hakavod! We need you here!

B'ahava Yisrael...

[marekeda]

Oh man,that was so nice,thaks for that!I wish Israeli people to live in peace and never to loose their honor