Twilight Princess: Savewarp Glitch - Midna's Desperate Hour

[Matt23488]

so i just found out about EMS recently, and now i see that there is "original" and "fixed" whats the difference?

[logitechSDAZ]

'original', you get ems while Faron is still in twilight. With 'fixed' ems, you get it after sumoing the Goron or after you beat Goron Mines. With 'original' ems, you can skip Goron Mines. The only way to enter Goron Mines with 'original' ems is to use the spinner. With 'fixed' ems, you can skip Midna's Desperate Hour (kill giant bug, beat Lakebed Temple, get tear afterwards).

[Matt23488]

thanks. keep up the great work!

[pnar13]

@logitechSDAZ Wait, how would you get the spinner to enter Goron Mines in the Original EMS? Don't you get it all the way until Arbiter's Grounds?

[logitechSDAZ]

@pnar13 Ems, clear Faron twilight, Forest temple, clear Kakariko twilight, clear Lanayru twilight, map glitch to climb Snowpeak mountain, Snowpeak Ruins ooccoo, steal bomb bag from Iza with ooccoo, beat King Bulblin on bridge with bombs during Telma escort, Zora armor, Lakebed temple, spinner in Arbiter's Grounds, then go back and enter Goron Mines with spinner.

[Prince0fHyrule]

If you turn into a wolf,are you able to turn back as a human while the Midna Desperate hour?

[logitechSDAZ]

yes

[Fiercelinkx]

What can happen after that?

[logitechSDAZ]

What can happen? You mean, what else can you do during Midna's Desperate Hour? You can LJA into Zora's Domain and get past the Midna trigger. You can get the bomb bag from Ilia, complete Goron Mines or complete Snowpeak Temple (if you have ooccoo jr.) If you complete Snowpeak Temple during Midna's Desperate Hour, you are trapped because you can't ever warp off Snowpeak Mountain.

[ihoprules]

wait...when do you get a bomb bag from Ilia? Do ya mean from Iza, or is there some secret bomb bag I don't know about?

[logitechSDAZ]

oops...yeah I meant Iza.

[WarningSDE]

how do you find this stuff?

[LinkTetraWW]

Nice!

[Fiercelinkx]

Awesome.

[THENINTENDOLUMINARY]

It's still essential to have Ooccoo Jr. if you want to do a MDH quest otherwise you'd have no way of getting back from the desert

[XL1NKXZ3LDA]

Nice.