@somedudeinva my 2004 dodge with a 5.7 hemi has been completely reliant on hydrogen for fuel produced by the dry cell I designed, created and installed for the past year. It is ver effective and very efficient. I haven't paid for gas in a long time... :-)
@shitcock1985 i would like to know more i have a 1994 dodge ram id love to convert to hydrogen. im still learning this stuff and trying to find the best set up.
@Assi2004 HHO isn't a real thing and it irritates the shit out of me when people talk about it like it is. It's chemically meaningless.
I didn't say it was ineffective. I said it was horribly inefficient. Hydrogen is much cheaper than aluminum and sodium hydroxide. If you need a few liters of hydrogen for an experiment, it's way easier than procuring a cylinder, but for bulk production it is a hopeless method.
Ideal back up fuel system for Land Rovers.....just store large jar of sodium hydroxide & water in the back of your Landy, and when you run out of petrol, get out the tin snips & cut up the bonnet & shove it in the jar....loads of fuel, but make sure you don't have too far to go, or there will be no were to balance the jar.
Hydrides are a very safe way to store hydrogen. It sucks it up like a sponge and is not under pressure. Adding heat will release the hydrogen for use.
Oh, and another friend was screwed by the reaction "foam" carrying bits of aluminum up into the tubes clogging them. That set up blew too and "foamed" everyone around with scalding lye. Me included.
(PS: He thought he was pretty smart and was controlling the reaction temp with a pan full of ice water, but when it took off, the can did not have enough surface area to cool the reaction as fast as it produced heat. Foam -> clog -> bang)
This is REALLY DANGEROUS to do. What they don't know / tell you is the reaction can run away and get so hot so fast the high pressure *steam* produced can rupture even steel cans (seen the result), shatter glass bottles (seen it real time) and when it blows, the hot lye (NaOH) will eat eyes, lips and other mucous membranes so fast you won't have time to wash it off before there is serious, permament damage.
@zker666 very few materials can store hydrogen indefinably- infact not even the Earth does (we lose tons of it escaping the gravitational pull) it is small enough to seep through many solid materials and all but the tinniest of cracks imperceptible to the human eye. Then the problem of pressure vs volume and how you can contain enough that you need.
yea.. its easy just stick some aluminum soda cans in an bath of sodium hydroxide mix wt water.. but its hard to control it..but its good source of energy for quick energy when you run of money or gas station near by..
Chemical reactions do produce an exothermic response and they can be very reactive! Have you considered the use of silica and sodium hydroxide? These, when mixed with a small amount of water, produce volumes of Hydrogen! Unfortunately there isn't a way to control the reaction other than what amount is used to produce the reaction. An expansion chamber capable of handling the heat would be a good start for experimentation. Careful.
@thriceblessedman ..i realy hope that you answer this question, cos i see that you haven't been active on youtube for 6 months...you suggested silica....but which silica were you referring to?
What you need is a plastic water resorvoir. For the Aluminum and lye (sodium Hydroxide) could be mixed in an heat resistant container. My question is how long is the reaction?
how about if you controlee the prosses by fluid leavel?
filll half way when you start your car, rais the leavel at hyway speeds, lower the level as you slow down, drain before you shut off the engine, some psi can be stored on the gas side via selinoids and strong tank. with a safety presure release of coarse!
Could you control the output by flushing the water into another chamber using an air pump to pressurized the container? If you were able to flush the water into another chamber, then you have to figure out a way to prevent it from pouring back into the primary container.
It is probably very complicated to do, but might be the solution to stopping the reaction.
@somedudeinva my 2004 dodge with a 5.7 hemi has been completely reliant on hydrogen for fuel produced by the dry cell I designed, created and installed for the past year. It is ver effective and very efficient. I haven't paid for gas in a long time... :-)
shitcock1985 3 months ago
@shitcock1985 can you post some video and how it works.
kessass83 2 months ago
@shitcock1985 i would like to know more i have a 1994 dodge ram id love to convert to hydrogen. im still learning this stuff and trying to find the best set up.
dontwantachannel675 2 months ago
@somedudeinva in fact, this is a quiet effective way to make H2 in a lab
both Al and NaOH are cheap, the reaction goes very well and produces pretty clean H2
HHO has been known for more than 100 years too - but suddenly some think they can outsmart the laws of physic and travel further
ridiculous.
Assi2004 5 months ago
@Assi2004 HHO isn't a real thing and it irritates the shit out of me when people talk about it like it is. It's chemically meaningless.
I didn't say it was ineffective. I said it was horribly inefficient. Hydrogen is much cheaper than aluminum and sodium hydroxide. If you need a few liters of hydrogen for an experiment, it's way easier than procuring a cylinder, but for bulk production it is a hopeless method.
somedudeinva 5 months ago
@somedudeinva right but:
a few liter for an experiment = lab (good method)
bulk production =/= lab (very expensive method)
all this HHO mambo jambo is just for the dumb people, thinking they can outsmart the laws of physic
and all the companys are bad as they dont want this, as they work with the bad oil companys
its just a big joke
Assi2004 5 months ago
@somedudeinva shutup you fag
burnett3199 5 months ago
@burnett3199 Thank you for the intelligent and thoughtful comment.
somedudeinva 5 months ago
@frank0067 Well, I recycle my cans. Scrap aluminum is worth around 50 cents a pound.
If you want to take your cans and $5 worth of sodium hydroxide to make 4 cents of hydrogen gas that you can... do what with exactly...?.. go ahead.
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somedudeinva 5 months ago
Ideal back up fuel system for Land Rovers.....just store large jar of sodium hydroxide & water in the back of your Landy, and when you run out of petrol, get out the tin snips & cut up the bonnet & shove it in the jar....loads of fuel, but make sure you don't have too far to go, or there will be no were to balance the jar.
magna59 6 months ago
@magna59 Wouldn't it be easier to carry 10 lbs of fuel rather than 400 lbs of water, sodium hydroxide, and aluminum?
somedudeinva 5 months ago
are there any videos or free plans out there showing how to BUILD a seperator cell?
waterwart 10 months ago
Hydrides are a very safe way to store hydrogen. It sucks it up like a sponge and is not under pressure. Adding heat will release the hydrogen for use.
BrentRF 11 months ago
Oh, and another friend was screwed by the reaction "foam" carrying bits of aluminum up into the tubes clogging them. That set up blew too and "foamed" everyone around with scalding lye. Me included.
(PS: He thought he was pretty smart and was controlling the reaction temp with a pan full of ice water, but when it took off, the can did not have enough surface area to cool the reaction as fast as it produced heat. Foam -> clog -> bang)
tsbrownie 1 year ago
This is REALLY DANGEROUS to do. What they don't know / tell you is the reaction can run away and get so hot so fast the high pressure *steam* produced can rupture even steel cans (seen the result), shatter glass bottles (seen it real time) and when it blows, the hot lye (NaOH) will eat eyes, lips and other mucous membranes so fast you won't have time to wash it off before there is serious, permament damage.
tsbrownie 1 year ago
how do i know that aint some one blow ing through a straw
mircs1979 1 year ago
why is this so hard to store?
zker666 1 year ago
@zker666 very few materials can store hydrogen indefinably- infact not even the Earth does (we lose tons of it escaping the gravitational pull) it is small enough to seep through many solid materials and all but the tinniest of cracks imperceptible to the human eye. Then the problem of pressure vs volume and how you can contain enough that you need.
EgadsNo 1 year ago
yea.. its easy just stick some aluminum soda cans in an bath of sodium hydroxide mix wt water.. but its hard to control it..but its good source of energy for quick energy when you run of money or gas station near by..
superwhiz88 2 years ago
Chemical reactions do produce an exothermic response and they can be very reactive! Have you considered the use of silica and sodium hydroxide? These, when mixed with a small amount of water, produce volumes of Hydrogen! Unfortunately there isn't a way to control the reaction other than what amount is used to produce the reaction. An expansion chamber capable of handling the heat would be a good start for experimentation. Careful.
thriceblessedman 2 years ago
@thriceblessedman ..i realy hope that you answer this question, cos i see that you haven't been active on youtube for 6 months...you suggested silica....but which silica were you referring to?
peace4peace
robbieYAHU 1 year ago
sodium or calcium carbide probably isn't cheeper but less heat just add water
2sillytube 2 years ago
What you need is a plastic water resorvoir. For the Aluminum and lye (sodium Hydroxide) could be mixed in an heat resistant container. My question is how long is the reaction?
Topazman12 2 years ago
I know all this. It was just a way of showing everyone that hydorgen generation can be done by means other than the hho method.
mpoy3s123 3 years ago
Oh so this is just a chemistry 101 lesson? Ok never mind. Sorry.
somedudeinva 3 years ago
Any
mpoy3s123 3 years ago
how about if you controlee the prosses by fluid leavel?
filll half way when you start your car, rais the leavel at hyway speeds, lower the level as you slow down, drain before you shut off the engine, some psi can be stored on the gas side via selinoids and strong tank. with a safety presure release of coarse!
davidrrrd 3 years ago
All you would need is about 90 pounds of aluminum a day and you could run your car you would have to be a avid soda are beer drinker
rickeygottheblues 3 years ago
but there has to be a way. pistons or vessels in water, something?
skinhedz4peace 3 years ago
so what metal and acid are you using? and how could you catch that gas and pump in into something?
skinhedz4peace 3 years ago
Aluminum and sodium hydroxzide. The gas is pure hydrogen and it's to hard to store.
mpoy3s123 3 years ago
ya any acid with a metal makes pure hydrogen.
d3adp001 3 years ago
You can't. the only thing that will stop it is to take out the alum.
mpoy3s123 3 years ago
Could you control the output by flushing the water into another chamber using an air pump to pressurized the container? If you were able to flush the water into another chamber, then you have to figure out a way to prevent it from pouring back into the primary container.
It is probably very complicated to do, but might be the solution to stopping the reaction.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
@mpoy3s123 can this be use to fuel car?
HyperSTAND 4 months ago
Ok, so you got this chemical process started. How do you shut it off?
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