Every martial art is dangerous, right now im doing Muay Thai and im planning on learning alot more like savate, chinese kemo, Bjj and wing tsun/ wing chun i dont exactly know which one it is -_- In the end martial arts help everyone in defending themselves and boost their confidence to me :D also a great form of discipline!
@IpMan19 If you look at it from the etymological side of it, they var a lot. Karate used to meant "Chinese Hand" as it you must know its a martial art developed from Chinese Martial Arts. Later the Kanji was changed in a homophonic Hiragana to mean Empty Hand. While Savate comes from the old french, to mean Old Shoe or Old Boot. The styles are really different so are the techniques. It truly is not fair to call someone a copycat just for similar names. You should know better with that username.
@IpMan19 Hey, "Igorant" mongrel, judging for your account name, you must be the type who blabber nonsense about a certaIn martial art being a copycat. Why, if Yip Man was still alive, he would be so humiliated by your words.
Ah, did you also mention the term "杂种". I just realised except plastic surgery most Japanese like to marry westerners to make their next generation look better. So, you must be referring the phrase "杂种" to your own kind.
@IpMan19 "Sigh" I never thought you were this stupid. You never called a chinese a french, now let me interpret it for you, mongrel. "You typical french animal failed to show the proof but come back with assaults, lol." In other words, by saying you typical french, you are implying that I am french, and you have the balls to say you did not. I dare say 100% of the commentor agree with me, unless they, just like you, will never amount to anything, racist bastard.
@IpMan19 Right, to my own kind, so you mean chinese are 杂种/Mongrel, haha solid proof that you are a racist, a pity that whatever your country is, there is such thing as freedom of speech.
@IpMan19 Oh right, by the way, just saying, Japanese never did call themselves as chinese, they are greater than that, so get your fact right. Oh what, you are saying I am japanese? Hmph, I hope so! I would prefer being Japanese then Chinese mind you! And what, Japanese are chimps, and French are dogs. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, what a troll! If they are as such, then you rank less than a plankton!
@IpMan19 Unfortunately, it is a chinese who is calling Japanese greater. Or what? You need me to upload a video as proof of my ethnic. Hmph, you can't look at me, words can only look at the ground after they die, like the worm you are. Shortest dick, hoo, what about woman? Huh, little troll with a dick size of a french fries.
@IpMan19 No,no,no,no, who taught you that japanese have the shortest dick, your mom? Then your mother is so stupid that a country will be destroyed when she take over as prime minister. Or what, did you somehow see your daddy's tiny dick and mistook it as the japanese? Anyway, what a funny guy.
Savate isn't practiced in the olympic games because only few people practiced it in the world. Most of them are only european.
Its origin is only french at first (Michel Casseux in 1825) : a mix between farmers fight, bandits fight, sailor fight, and some people say also aristocratic fight style.
In 1830-1840 Charles Lecour replaces fists original style by english boxing style, more efficient.
contrary to your beliefs, savate is purely of european origin, it takes northwest european boxing style and adds kicks.... later on they added la cannes and la batons. canes and batons. This was due to a crackdown on weapons during the time.
@IpMan19 you cant tell me a sport which was invented before we even knew about karate was copied from karate... its centuries old dude, prior to knowledge of many eastern customs and traditions. And if it was of french origin, and its not, because it uses english style boxing in it, has no impact on whether or not its in the olympics.
That's totally bullshit!! Savate has only been practiced since around 100 yrs ago. And it isn't held as an olympic game, becoz all of us know it's a copycat style, the origin is karate. If it were of a french origin long time ago like you claimed, there is no reason why the arrogant french people wouldn't put it into the olympic like they did for other french sports.
You cannot claim something that's of your own origin without any historical basis.
shows 19th century origins, not last 100 years like you think... meaning they wouldnt have known about karate unles the mighty people of Laos did, since you know asian people talk to each other in all the different countries back in the day. If you learned about the colonialism period, you would have known that it couldnt have been.
@IpMan19 says you... a fool on the internet with no proof to back it up..
show some proof and you can win the argument, otherwise you are just a fool on a computer... if you cant show proof dont bother commenting back, youll just look retarded.
You goto find your proof becoz you french asses are claiming you invented something yourself, just like most french fools they've brilliant culture & history, when in fact it wasn't. Who told you this mother fucker there must be french frogs in the far east to absorb their culture & style as these could simply be brought to frog land by other europeans.
So, don't claim your bitches got clean asses unless you can prove it.
As I said becoz that wiki document was created by french fools who intend to spread falsified information on web. It funny to see most other french fools don't even know that, lol.
man, just shut up and if you think french boxing is chinese, go watch the episode of "human weapon" who talk about the savate (it's on youtube : juste search "savate human weapon" )
I don't care what fucking weapon it is. The point is clear that savate is framed on karate with a few techniques from muay thai and probably also some from modern boxing.
Just like karate was framed on the techniques of chinese martial art more thousand years ago.
The only difference is Japanese stole others techniques a thousand years earlier than you so theirs has a much longer history known worldwide.
The whole thing about savate is shit. I won't even bother to waste my time for that shit.
French fools stole something from karate, muay thai, boxing, mix them together and give it a different name, and then call it a true original style of your own.
If that should be the case then many people can also call themselves inventors.
karate steal from kung fu ? jjb steal to jj trad ? etc... no, juste kick, punch etc... are the same in different sport try to create new kick, it's impossible, all kick are in some different sports...
and, you know, french boxing create the fencing under the name of "canne de combat" ;)
so... french "fool" steal all other sport to create french boxing ? no, it just a mix between boxing and other martial art
Let me tell you that Karate is derived from Kung Fu. Okinawan traders brought kung fu to Okinawa. It was very popularly adopted when Japan took over Okinawa and the people had to defend themselves from exploitation by the Japanese Samurais. Karate means empty hand but they had some other name for it earlier meaning foriegn hand. Courtesy: Human Weapon TV show.
I'm afraid you were born with some congential mental disability that affects your comprehensive reading. I never called a chinese a french. It's plain clear you're the only bloody idiot who said such a dumb thing.
Calling a chinese a french is like calling a human a chimp. Probably you can't even separate between a human and a chimp. But it's natural, because most Japanese people have chimp faces, that's why most of them rely on plastic surgery to make them look more human.
I don't want to go through a history lesson with you but just want to tell you the truth once again that savate is a french copycat of the original karate.
silk was known to europeans more than 1000 yrs ago, so your statement can be treated as a total rubbish.
Savate is an appealing transition for me. My only striking martial art is Tae Kwon Do, and Savate seems to have a high volume of kicks , similar to Tae Kwon Do. They have more punches, so I would like to try it if I could.
Actually, Savate (pronounced sah-vat) is older than many asian forms. It bears very little relation to karate, other than it's about punching and kicking your opponent. The punches are different, the kicks are very different. Saying it copies techniques is just plain wrong. The punching comes from "standard" English boxing and the kicks hit with the toes, not the ball of the foot. Ip Man, you're just showing your ignorance.
That is true. If I may add, it was earlier used by sailors. The kicks were not direct, but they used to touch the ground for balance as it is hard to keep balance on a rocking ship. Then, when riots arose, people adopted to this style of martial art now-a-days known as Savate. It literally means "Old Shoe". People also used their canes which they always used to carry as a weapon.
The players' boots are tipped with hard metals on ankle and toe hence kick with ball of the foot.
Don't wear the suits then... Wear pro wrestling long tights or trackpants, a sleevless roundneck shirt, knee pads and elbow pads with savate boots it will look less gay and a lot cooler.
@IpMan19 It's a french martial art, since many of years... It comes from some illegal french fight in the street, then it became a sport. By the way, i learned it in the french legion and yeah that's not for kids. And keep in your head, that's it not only about kicking and punching, there're many sticks and weapons technics.
Don't waste my time with idiots. Especially fat kids wasting their times on internet because they know nobody gives a shit about them. See you and don't answer you'll waste your time with ME kid. :)
@IpMan19 You keep saying that savate copy from karate because you have no idea of what karate is. If you would have practice one or the other you would quickly have notice the difference in a simple low kick. You are the kind of people that try to get people at your level with insults, sorry i won't waste my time with you find someone else.
@IpMan19 savate is a french word for "old boot" which they got from the shoes they wore in fights. they developed their fighting style from fencing, and while they did learn kicking techniques from eastern countries from traveling on trading ships they developed their own street fighting style that is very different from what you see in these videos. Modern Savate is very sport-specific in terms of rules and techniques- many i bet you don't know of.
@IpMan19 and if were talking about copying then i bet you didnt know karate is derived from kung fu and kung fu is derived from an indian martial art kalaripayat. the fact that your username is ipman is a disgrace to the actual martial arts master and your a disgusting example of an internet troll. take a history lesson.
Savate was created by French sailors who went to Africa and Asia and found out different fighting techniques from all those places. It's not like they "stole" the moves secretly, they just learned from other people, like all human beings do...
@IpMan19 I've practiced Kyokushin Karate for seven years, and am now ranked as a Red Glove in Savate. The differences between savate and karate are enormous. The form is completely different, footwork, punching, everything is different. The only similarity one could possibly discern is that the kicks also snap engaging heavily both the knee and hip. Other than that there is a world of difference.
@IpMan19 buddy, savate was invented before europeans had any real knowledge of asian martial arts... It dates back centuries. The punches are european boxing, the movements are fencing, and the kicks are done at the toe. Theres also 2 weapons with the martial art. The cane and the baton. The martial arts started during a weapon crackdown in southern france.
@IpMan19 dude, the east was closed off to westerners for years... the knowledge of alot of the martials arts from asia that we know today didnt even come to us until the 20th century... some very little during the 19th at the earliest. On top of that, it was America and Britian that had asian access during that time with very little being spanish. French had the southern asian countries for access. Like Laos.
All martial arts have their advantage and their weakness, the thing is to practice many of the moves from different martial arts and "create your own martial art". But I think personally ju jitsu is h4x, their locks are just so damn imba
@looker768 lol it's a gaming word, it means not balanced, it means in my sentence, ju jitsu is the most "cheated" martial arts because of their locks that are just so damn good
All martial arts have their advantage and they weakness, the thing is to practice many of the moves from different martial arts and "create your own martial art". But I think personally ju jitsu is h4x, their locks are just so damn imba
couldn't hear the song but good collection of clips. I'm interested in learning Savate and training in it, the footwork and the way the fighters move around looks quite interesting IMO. I'm surprised how much arrogance is in the comment section...
jo, first of all my opinion about the savate karate and muay thai talk.
im a kickbokser sinceim like 7, and there aint a diference in kickboks or savate or what ever. its the rule in the ring , and your mind what makes the sport aslong you can kick and punch you can call your self savate fighter or a kickbokser big bunch of bullshit
I'm going to make a reference to Fearless. I believe for all the styles of martial arts, there is no single one that is superior. All of those who practice different styles of martial arts, they would naturally have a different level of skill. Through competition, we can discover ourselves.
They wear steel toed boots and kick eachother... Shut up dude... I do MuayThai, I think MuayThai is cooler than this just cause I'm biased and think MuayThai's history is way cooler. But really... Next time you're wearing steel toed boots and are kicking someone, tell me how hard you have to kick to make it hurt... =P
idk if they're steel toed boots, but they have like a hard toe and heel for kicking. And we all know you don't talk to people you don't know like that in real life, so stop looking like a fool pretending to be scary through a computer...
Savate is banned in MMA stuff because it's to dangerous, the moves used and the strengthening of Savate masters are actually lethal to non Savate contenders. It is said, a Savate master can kick an I-beam, and not break his leg, because they roll iron pipes along their striking surfaces to break and reknit the bone over and over.
I'll tell you this, someone who practices Savate will have stronger kicks then someone who practices kickboxing. The idea is that Savate relies on combination of kicks and punches while kickboxing relies on punches and kicks, but not too many kicks.
I wish this sport was more popular outside of Europe. Frankly, I think it's a lot more fun to watch than the typical MMA stuff you'll see on TV. It's much more dynamic, and it's a lot cleaner. MMA generally just is BANG BANG BANG GRAPPLE TAKEDOWN GRAR GRAR GRAR! You know? It's no fun to watch. Savate kind of retains the grace of boxing, but with kicks.
but u cannot use knees or elbows!! and there is a big game in kicking the internal zone of the leg in deffense, and not in attack!! its a very technical sprt, perhaps more than kb....but i thought it was kind of nationnal sport no one would know about of out of france :S
@patrickangus16 well the sport in particular is not very popular outside of France, but people are learning I believe Cheick Kongo who is in the UFC was a Savate fighter
As for you, Cire21Century, youre wright, but not completely. Most of sport trainers do not allow you to use freestyle tehniques, no matter how careful you are. For example, my ex. savate trainer never allowed me to use sanda during our training, so that was destroying my individual approach and I left. In sport, there is too much rules and that sucks against real self defence.
A martial art is only as good as the fighter who practises it. I've been doing savate for half a year now and KB for 3 years, both rather regularly, i.e. twice a week on average. During my last Savate training session, I've come across a guy who's been doing Kung Fu for 6 years, once a week. He was no real match for me.
what do you mean? he wasnt strong enough? or on the contrary he was a beast? Im mean...once a week is a poor training in my opinion even if you practise for 6 years!
He wasn't good enough. He didn't have a good guard and he spent too much time standing on one leg, which is a fatal error as your adversary can easily sweep your standing leg away.
@eastbelgian The reason you win is that kung fu its not a martial art in reality. Bruce lee colled kung fu dry land swiming, is like a dancing thing. I practiced when i was litle karat after that kick boxing, taekwondo, and this years i'm practicing many muay thai and bjj, mma. I think that is the individe that make the diference but also what type of art you practice. In general Kung fu, karate and taekwando are sports of points, not efficient in real life. Muay thai and MMA are diferent thing.
@HEADAIM idiot, Bruce Lee called Katas and Forms "dry land swimming", not kung fu. Get your facts straight, boy.
And its the other way around. Karate, Kung Fu and other traditionals are teh true martial arts. A martial art was invented to defend yourself, not for winning a match. Muay Thai is a watered down version of Muay Boran, and things like kickboxing and ufc are sports, nothing else.
@Lestat220289 Whatever smart guy, i see you have lot of "knowledge" about this topic and of course you practice martial arts. Anyway that was my own personal idea and God given me this right.
@HEADAIM Yes, I practice martial arts. It's not my opinion or yours either. There are combat sports and martial arts. COmbat sports can be effective inside a ring and outside of it, it just theyre not martial arts.
@eastbelgian once a week?dude i do capoeira 4-6 times per week and when i do like 3 i feel like i havent trained at all.u cant be good in anything that u dont do daily or nearly daily for 2 hours week martial art or not.
@Rose4Triandafyllos 3 times a week is fine, your body needs time to rebuild muscle and get stronger. Either you have a superfast metabolism, your not training that hard, or capoeira isnt that demanding on the body
This art looks very powerful but incredibly full of holes. It seems focused on powerful kicks and punches but the fighters look off balance the majority of the time...
you can not balance well when some one knows really well how to attack your knees and this with the tip of his boot and sweep you of the floor, when you wear boots and kick with them that is how you should fight
You could also say, since you are obviously strategically and insinuatingly, implying that Muay Thai is superior, that Muay Thai doesn't have heel kicks, combinations, etc. I don't practice either but there are holes in any martial art. Ultimately comparing one to another is pointless right?
Well put the Savate fighters in a MT fight and that will solve that. The only thing that Savate would be giving up is the shoe--so it should go to who is better. Savate has a good combinations but the elbow and knee will ruin over half of them.
And yes MMA and the former NHB were designed to stop this well my art is good too, banter. You might have missed the last 17 years though.
I don't think so. I just consider MMA a very poor way to compare martial arts considering all the rules it has. The stance 99% of MMA fighters use is obsolete in a real fight because of groin shots. Generally the people who say MT/BJJ are best etc are the people who haven't been exposed to MA till UFC. And as I said there are holes in any MA. Every fighter has their own style. To take one literally is to limit what you can and can't do. To generalize is to speak of what does not exist.
metempiric7 knows his stuff. preach it, brutha
daehanl 2 weeks ago
Every martial art is dangerous, right now im doing Muay Thai and im planning on learning alot more like savate, chinese kemo, Bjj and wing tsun/ wing chun i dont exactly know which one it is -_- In the end martial arts help everyone in defending themselves and boost their confidence to me :D also a great form of discipline!
chaoticprince 4 weeks ago 2
of course some martial arts will look similar, the human body has two arms and two legs for everybody.
slapehdiebass 1 month ago 2
French perverts - they fight with their feet and fuck with their tongues.
fkarno 2 months ago
Just look at the names of these arts "karate" "savate".
It's already a plain fact who's the copycat.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 If you look at it from the etymological side of it, they var a lot. Karate used to meant "Chinese Hand" as it you must know its a martial art developed from Chinese Martial Arts. Later the Kanji was changed in a homophonic Hiragana to mean Empty Hand. While Savate comes from the old french, to mean Old Shoe or Old Boot. The styles are really different so are the techniques. It truly is not fair to call someone a copycat just for similar names. You should know better with that username.
EcuadorianFlagShip 2 months ago
@EcuadorianFlagShip
Oh, aren't those sidekicks & lower kicks excatly what people practice in karate & muay thai? Both have much much longer history than you.
Your video already proved you're copycat stupid!
Just give it a slightly different name and you call it truely original, what funny french fools?
IpMan19 2 months ago
What really is savate?
Searchinganswers 2 months ago
@Searchinganswers
A copycat style created by french retards.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 Hey, "Igorant" mongrel, judging for your account name, you must be the type who blabber nonsense about a certaIn martial art being a copycat. Why, if Yip Man was still alive, he would be so humiliated by your words.
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@Exorcistkanda
You typical french animal failed to show the proof but come back with assaults, lol.
IpMan19 2 months ago
Comment removed
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@IpMan19 Oi, oi, who is the one failed to show proof now? 我是华人,杂种! Well, not like a faker like you would understand what I am saying. 就像疯狗一样.
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@IpMan19 在我忘记之前,人类全都动物,请不要忘记这一点. 除了你,你只是一只杂种,滚回你的狗窝去! 你没有资格跟我说话!
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@Exorcistkanda
Ah, did you also mention the term "杂种". I just realised except plastic surgery most Japanese like to marry westerners to make their next generation look better. So, you must be referring the phrase "杂种" to your own kind.
IpMan19 2 months ago
Comment removed
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@IpMan19 "Sigh" I never thought you were this stupid. You never called a chinese a french, now let me interpret it for you, mongrel. "You typical french animal failed to show the proof but come back with assaults, lol." In other words, by saying you typical french, you are implying that I am french, and you have the balls to say you did not. I dare say 100% of the commentor agree with me, unless they, just like you, will never amount to anything, racist bastard.
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@IpMan19 Right, to my own kind, so you mean chinese are 杂种/Mongrel, haha solid proof that you are a racist, a pity that whatever your country is, there is such thing as freedom of speech.
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@Exorcistkanda
Japanese people calling themselves chinese, you once again set a good example that chimps can't separate themselves from humans.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 Ah, I give up, mongrels like you just won't get it even one explain it over and over again, Adolf Hitler clone.
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@IpMan19 Oh right, by the way, just saying, Japanese never did call themselves as chinese, they are greater than that, so get your fact right. Oh what, you are saying I am japanese? Hmph, I hope so! I would prefer being Japanese then Chinese mind you! And what, Japanese are chimps, and French are dogs. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, what a troll! If they are as such, then you rank less than a plankton!
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@Exorcistkanda
It's funny to hear the race with the shortest dicks in the world to call themselves greater than others. LOL..
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 Unfortunately, it is a chinese who is calling Japanese greater. Or what? You need me to upload a video as proof of my ethnic. Hmph, you can't look at me, words can only look at the ground after they die, like the worm you are. Shortest dick, hoo, what about woman? Huh, little troll with a dick size of a french fries.
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@IpMan19 No,no,no,no, who taught you that japanese have the shortest dick, your mom? Then your mother is so stupid that a country will be destroyed when she take over as prime minister. Or what, did you somehow see your daddy's tiny dick and mistook it as the japanese? Anyway, what a funny guy.
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Exorcistkanda
I only said "It's funny to hear the race with the shortest dicks in the world to call themselves greater than others".
When did I identify it were the Japanese?
Unless.. lol
IpMan19 2 months ago 2
Comment removed
Searchinganswers 2 months ago
Sorry for my english, I'm french...
Savate isn't practiced in the olympic games because only few people practiced it in the world. Most of them are only european.
Its origin is only french at first (Michel Casseux in 1825) : a mix between farmers fight, bandits fight, sailor fight, and some people say also aristocratic fight style.
In 1830-1840 Charles Lecour replaces fists original style by english boxing style, more efficient.
independiente276010 2 months ago
contrary to your beliefs, savate is purely of european origin, it takes northwest european boxing style and adds kicks.... later on they added la cannes and la batons. canes and batons. This was due to a crackdown on weapons during the time.
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction
No need to insist it's purely of european origin when in fact it isn't.
Savate is not even a game in today's olympic, if it was of french origin, it would be practiced in the olympic games.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 you cant tell me a sport which was invented before we even knew about karate was copied from karate... its centuries old dude, prior to knowledge of many eastern customs and traditions. And if it was of french origin, and its not, because it uses english style boxing in it, has no impact on whether or not its in the olympics.
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction
That's totally bullshit!! Savate has only been practiced since around 100 yrs ago. And it isn't held as an olympic game, becoz all of us know it's a copycat style, the origin is karate. If it were of a french origin long time ago like you claimed, there is no reason why the arrogant french people wouldn't put it into the olympic like they did for other french sports.
You cannot claim something that's of your own origin without any historical basis.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 because adding kicks to a punching style just seems too hard to do?
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@IpMan19 also there is a historical basis for it.
shows 19th century origins, not last 100 years like you think... meaning they wouldnt have known about karate unles the mighty people of Laos did, since you know asian people talk to each other in all the different countries back in the day. If you learned about the colonialism period, you would have known that it couldnt have been.
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction wont let me post it but just wiki savate... shows all the info there
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction
that wiki page on savate must have been written by french fools.
savate is seldomly known to other people across the world but only french who are also the only people claiming they've created it themselves.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 says you... a fool on the internet with no proof to back it up..
show some proof and you can win the argument, otherwise you are just a fool on a computer... if you cant show proof dont bother commenting back, youll just look retarded.
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction
You goto find your proof becoz you french asses are claiming you invented something yourself, just like most french fools they've brilliant culture & history, when in fact it wasn't. Who told you this mother fucker there must be french frogs in the far east to absorb their culture & style as these could simply be brought to frog land by other europeans.
So, don't claim your bitches got clean asses unless you can prove it.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 im not french by the way... and if you are going to claim something about a subject... you have to provide the proof... lol. moron.
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction
I didn't claim it was french origin. You claimed it, you prove your ass retard.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 you claimed its not.... all everyone else has been saying is you are wrong... so prove it or stfu.
you can go on a wikipedia and it will even say its of french origin... google... its french...
the only person whos not saying its french is you...
so fucking prove it or stfu!
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction
As I said becoz that wiki document was created by french fools who intend to spread falsified information on web. It funny to see most other french fools don't even know that, lol.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 mon dieu mais qu'il est con --"
man, just shut up and if you think french boxing is chinese, go watch the episode of "human weapon" who talk about the savate (it's on youtube : juste search "savate human weapon" )
jbcarpentier 2 months ago
@jbcarpentier
I don't care what fucking weapon it is. The point is clear that savate is framed on karate with a few techniques from muay thai and probably also some from modern boxing.
Just like karate was framed on the techniques of chinese martial art more thousand years ago.
The only difference is Japanese stole others techniques a thousand years earlier than you so theirs has a much longer history known worldwide.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 i don't speak about weapon ... but about a show that talks about the of martial arts who's called "human weapon"
if you watch the episode of savate, you will realize that you said some shit
jbcarpentier 2 months ago
@jbcarpentier
The whole thing about savate is shit. I won't even bother to waste my time for that shit.
French fools stole something from karate, muay thai, boxing, mix them together and give it a different name, and then call it a true original style of your own.
If that should be the case then many people can also call themselves inventors.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19
so, taekwondo steal kick from karate ?
karate steal from kung fu ? jjb steal to jj trad ? etc... no, juste kick, punch etc... are the same in different sport try to create new kick, it's impossible, all kick are in some different sports...
and, you know, french boxing create the fencing under the name of "canne de combat" ;)
so... french "fool" steal all other sport to create french boxing ? no, it just a mix between boxing and other martial art
jbcarpentier 2 months ago
@jbcarpentier
Let me tell you that Karate is derived from Kung Fu. Okinawan traders brought kung fu to Okinawa. It was very popularly adopted when Japan took over Okinawa and the people had to defend themselves from exploitation by the Japanese Samurais. Karate means empty hand but they had some other name for it earlier meaning foriegn hand. Courtesy: Human Weapon TV show.
MynameisAbhaySoni 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction I am giving you an advice, give up. This guy doesn't have any mind, calling a chinese a french, haha! What an interesting fellow!
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@Exorcistkanda
I'm afraid you were born with some congential mental disability that affects your comprehensive reading. I never called a chinese a french. It's plain clear you're the only bloody idiot who said such a dumb thing.
Calling a chinese a french is like calling a human a chimp. Probably you can't even separate between a human and a chimp. But it's natural, because most Japanese people have chimp faces, that's why most of them rely on plastic surgery to make them look more human.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction
I don't want to go through a history lesson with you but just want to tell you the truth once again that savate is a french copycat of the original karate.
silk was known to europeans more than 1000 yrs ago, so your statement can be treated as a total rubbish.
IpMan19 2 months ago
Savate, just by how it's named already reflected it's a french reform (copycat) of the original karate.
Stupid french!
IpMan19 2 months ago
Savate is more like Muay Thai than anything.
Saying its like Karate is retarded.
fromstart2finish 3 months ago
Savate is an appealing transition for me. My only striking martial art is Tae Kwon Do, and Savate seems to have a high volume of kicks , similar to Tae Kwon Do. They have more punches, so I would like to try it if I could.
TheTerrorUforgot 3 months ago
watch Fearless "there is no superior martial arts, all the same. the only different is the level the one who practice them"
griexdast 4 months ago
To get you started, off the top of my head:
Aikido, Choy Li Fut Kung Fu, Isshinryu, Kyokushinkai and Sankukai forms of Karate, and Taido.
Metempiric7 4 months ago
Perhaps, Asschun, YOU should do the research on that?
Metempiric7 4 months ago
Actually, Savate (pronounced sah-vat) is older than many asian forms. It bears very little relation to karate, other than it's about punching and kicking your opponent. The punches are different, the kicks are very different. Saying it copies techniques is just plain wrong. The punching comes from "standard" English boxing and the kicks hit with the toes, not the ball of the foot. Ip Man, you're just showing your ignorance.
It started on the docks of Southern France.
Metempiric7 5 months ago 18
@Metempiric7 LOL which asian forms are you referring to? this should be interesting
asschun 4 months ago
@Metempiric7
That is true. If I may add, it was earlier used by sailors. The kicks were not direct, but they used to touch the ground for balance as it is hard to keep balance on a rocking ship. Then, when riots arose, people adopted to this style of martial art now-a-days known as Savate. It literally means "Old Shoe". People also used their canes which they always used to carry as a weapon.
The players' boots are tipped with hard metals on ankle and toe hence kick with ball of the foot.
MynameisAbhaySoni 2 months ago
Spinelli brought me here. lol
jingjong12 5 months ago
Savate is for gay lords
daaskapital1 5 months ago
@daaskapital1 Gay lords that well break your knees, snap your ribs, and give you a concussion all before you can even touch them.
TheTaoofJKD 5 months ago 12
@TheTaoofJKD
Don't wear the suits then... Wear pro wrestling long tights or trackpants, a sleevless roundneck shirt, knee pads and elbow pads with savate boots it will look less gay and a lot cooler.
Dimitri0809 1 week ago
@daaskapital1
How the fuck is it for gaylords fag.. As opossed to your muay thai wearing shorts.
Dimitri0809 3 months ago
Thumbs up if Professor Calculus brought you here.
breenVA 6 months ago
im in the 160's middleweight.
bloodynachos 7 months ago
van damme uses this style of fighting in his movies.
julio26789 8 months ago
Nice and beautyful martial art!!! if someone is very good at taekwondo and mixed it with savate it will become a savate world champion for sure!!
fitnessboyPR 8 months ago
What the fuck is this savate? Frenched karate?
Copying some techniques from karate then you call it a french innovation?
IpMan19 9 months ago
@IpMan19 It's a french martial art, since many of years... It comes from some illegal french fight in the street, then it became a sport. By the way, i learned it in the french legion and yeah that's not for kids. And keep in your head, that's it not only about kicking and punching, there're many sticks and weapons technics.
moussleouf 9 months ago
@moussleouf
Just by how it's named "SAVATE". How can you convince people that you're (the froggies) not copying the fighting style from Japanese "KARATE".
Oh, yeah! It's also about some sticks and weapons which you copied from other oriental martial art styles, right?
IpMan19 9 months ago
@IpMan19
Don't waste my time with idiots. Especially fat kids wasting their times on internet because they know nobody gives a shit about them. See you and don't answer you'll waste your time with ME kid. :)
moussleouf 9 months ago
@moussleouf
Don't answer?
You already proved you a french idiot, ohoh ohoh ohoh ohoh ohoh ohoh ohoh ohoh ohoh!!!!!!!!!
IpMan19 9 months ago
@IpMan19 if you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk.
kroooassant 8 months ago
@kroooassant
if french assholes don't know martial arts, don't copy something from the east and call it your own martial art.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19 You keep saying that savate copy from karate because you have no idea of what karate is. If you would have practice one or the other you would quickly have notice the difference in a simple low kick. You are the kind of people that try to get people at your level with insults, sorry i won't waste my time with you find someone else.
kroooassant 8 months ago
@kroooassant
"the difference in a simple low kick"
you can't even tell how it's different in the simple low kick yet you claim it's not copied from karate, go somewhere else you idiot asshole.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19 savate is a french word for "old boot" which they got from the shoes they wore in fights. they developed their fighting style from fencing, and while they did learn kicking techniques from eastern countries from traveling on trading ships they developed their own street fighting style that is very different from what you see in these videos. Modern Savate is very sport-specific in terms of rules and techniques- many i bet you don't know of.
mahbabefasho 8 months ago
@IpMan19 and if were talking about copying then i bet you didnt know karate is derived from kung fu and kung fu is derived from an indian martial art kalaripayat. the fact that your username is ipman is a disgrace to the actual martial arts master and your a disgusting example of an internet troll. take a history lesson.
mahbabefasho 8 months ago 16
This comment has received too many negative votes show
@mahbabefasho
kung fu was created by shaolin,
your french naming savate is a disgrace to the Japanese karate,
stfu you french copycats.
IpMan19 8 months ago
Savate was created by French sailors who went to Africa and Asia and found out different fighting techniques from all those places. It's not like they "stole" the moves secretly, they just learned from other people, like all human beings do...
GuamKomudo 7 months ago
@IpMan19 It's well known that the french styles ar like karate and silat. Every country forms it's own.
WiiAreSIN 6 months ago
@IpMan19 Ignorance, just ignorance
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@Exorcistkanda
The video uploader and you are igorant. Oh, I see..
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 "Sigh" If you want to interpret it that way, that's fine. "Igorant" Ahaha♥
Exorcistkanda 2 months ago
@mahbabefasho lol
farcus12 6 months ago
@mahbabefasho Well said.
xDeGree21x 4 months ago
@IpMan19 I've practiced Kyokushin Karate for seven years, and am now ranked as a Red Glove in Savate. The differences between savate and karate are enormous. The form is completely different, footwork, punching, everything is different. The only similarity one could possibly discern is that the kicks also snap engaging heavily both the knee and hip. Other than that there is a world of difference.
TheTaoofJKD 5 months ago
@IpMan19 buddy, savate was invented before europeans had any real knowledge of asian martial arts... It dates back centuries. The punches are european boxing, the movements are fencing, and the kicks are done at the toe. Theres also 2 weapons with the martial art. The cane and the baton. The martial arts started during a weapon crackdown in southern france.
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
@eddieisfiction
No, it was not an invented style but a copied style. It was actually all karate based, but the french renamed it only in the last century or two.
That's why karate is known for long worldwide but not many know about savate.
Don't tell me the similarity in these names is a coincidence.
IpMan19 2 months ago
@IpMan19 dude, the east was closed off to westerners for years... the knowledge of alot of the martials arts from asia that we know today didnt even come to us until the 20th century... some very little during the 19th at the earliest. On top of that, it was America and Britian that had asian access during that time with very little being spanish. French had the southern asian countries for access. Like Laos.
eddieisfiction 2 months ago
All martial arts have their advantage and their weakness, the thing is to practice many of the moves from different martial arts and "create your own martial art". But I think personally ju jitsu is h4x, their locks are just so damn imba
Jonlinth90 9 months ago
@Jonlinth90 imba?
looker768 9 months ago
@looker768 lol it's a gaming word, it means not balanced, it means in my sentence, ju jitsu is the most "cheated" martial arts because of their locks that are just so damn good
Jonlinth90 9 months ago
All martial arts have their advantage and they weakness, the thing is to practice many of the moves from different martial arts and "create your own martial art". But I think personally ju jitsu is h4x, their locks are just so damn imba
Jonlinth90 9 months ago
Is it true the toes are steel & that they alousd to kick joints?
One thing I do know is the range of their kicks is VERY impressive
wondeboy12 9 months ago
I'm sure this is an excellent video... to bad it was edited on a calculator
Fragment87 10 months ago
where the hell is the music in te video?
lobodedios1 11 months ago
couldn't hear the song but good collection of clips. I'm interested in learning Savate and training in it, the footwork and the way the fighters move around looks quite interesting IMO. I'm surprised how much arrogance is in the comment section...
Gigas0101 11 months ago
jo, first of all my opinion about the savate karate and muay thai talk.
im a kickbokser sinceim like 7, and there aint a diference in kickboks or savate or what ever. its the rule in the ring , and your mind what makes the sport aslong you can kick and punch you can call your self savate fighter or a kickbokser big bunch of bullshit
Thagga 11 months ago
I'm going to make a reference to Fearless. I believe for all the styles of martial arts, there is no single one that is superior. All of those who practice different styles of martial arts, they would naturally have a different level of skill. Through competition, we can discover ourselves.
trackguy1 11 months ago 8
@trackguy1 i believe in no such thing as styles ~ Bruce Lee
Stols001 6 months ago
Its looks like Muay Thai for pussys. No wonder it's French.
GHOSTntheMACHINE 1 year ago
@GHOSTntheMACHINE
jealous girl u are..
tell me why you are a whore?because your mother was one too?
beatten when u were at school?
you'd better learn savate to avoid your asshole to be exploited
billbocate 1 year ago
They wear steel toed boots and kick eachother... Shut up dude... I do MuayThai, I think MuayThai is cooler than this just cause I'm biased and think MuayThai's history is way cooler. But really... Next time you're wearing steel toed boots and are kicking someone, tell me how hard you have to kick to make it hurt... =P
GuamKomudo 11 months ago
@GuamKomudo Who the fuck in this video is wearing steel toed boots you fucking idiot? Just shut up and do not speak until spoken too.
GHOSTntheMACHINE 10 months ago
idk if they're steel toed boots, but they have like a hard toe and heel for kicking. And we all know you don't talk to people you don't know like that in real life, so stop looking like a fool pretending to be scary through a computer...
GuamKomudo 10 months ago
At 25 % Savate compose Jeet Kun Do . It's not a hasard !
MrElliryc 1 year ago
Why is the music disabled to this video?!?
wncbjj 1 year ago
Why are they dressed like girls?
Thimpiz 1 year ago
can you hit with the shin on the head in savate?
alinbjj 1 year ago
@alinbjj no. savate only allows shoe blows, you cannot kick with your shin at all.
insidius87 1 year ago
Wow the quality of the video sux and the kicks look GAY
jpdt007 1 year ago
@jpdt007 go to say them...maybe after you will change your mind....
gurache 1 year ago
@gurache Where should i go to say:"them"...sorry please learn to speak english I dont understand what you are saying.
jpdt007 1 year ago
@jpdt007 ok sorry for my english...
i said that you should say what you said in front of them...
and after to be hitten by this guys you will change your mind about french kick !
gurache 1 year ago
@gurache I dont understand "to be hitten". Whats a french kick? Is it like French fries? mmm i love french fries....
jpdt007 1 year ago
@jpdt007 you understand all what i say enculé de ta mère va !
you do the clever guy behind your computer but in front of us you piss in your fucking pant pandeleiros !!
gurache 1 year ago
@gurache lol im joking...i know this guys on the video are good i was just trolling...gotcha! haha
jpdt007 1 year ago
@jpdt007 LOL!
ronmagicone 1 year ago
esta disciplina es una de las importantes en el mundo de las artes marciale, y kreo yo la mas interesante
ANARKAVEHEN 1 year ago 2
Beautifull
riptornadoofsouls 1 year ago
Why is the audio lost on this?!?
wncbjj 1 year ago
Savate is banned in MMA stuff because it's to dangerous, the moves used and the strengthening of Savate masters are actually lethal to non Savate contenders. It is said, a Savate master can kick an I-beam, and not break his leg, because they roll iron pipes along their striking surfaces to break and reknit the bone over and over.
CorathSS 1 year ago
@CorathSS that's so not true, lol :p
donloladin 1 year ago
@donloladin
I'll tell you this, someone who practices Savate will have stronger kicks then someone who practices kickboxing. The idea is that Savate relies on combination of kicks and punches while kickboxing relies on punches and kicks, but not too many kicks.
zaco21 1 year ago
@CorathSS in savate they also wear steel capped and steeled heeled boots
MyFightQuest 1 year ago
I wish this sport was more popular outside of Europe. Frankly, I think it's a lot more fun to watch than the typical MMA stuff you'll see on TV. It's much more dynamic, and it's a lot cleaner. MMA generally just is BANG BANG BANG GRAPPLE TAKEDOWN GRAR GRAR GRAR! You know? It's no fun to watch. Savate kind of retains the grace of boxing, but with kicks.
markthewhalekiller 1 year ago
This is kickboxing in every way possible I dont know why all across the world people tag it in so many ways such as Savate =\
NatxIL 1 year ago
@NatxIL because its savate... they use steel capped and steel heeled boots.. they also have different kicks to kickboxing
MyFightQuest 1 year ago
I just can believe it....I'm french and I thought no one would know this sport out of France!! is it very practiced in the USA-GB???
patrickangus16 1 year ago
@patrickangus16 you can say it is bit its just kickboxing no matter what names or rules you give it
catstudent1 1 year ago
@catstudent1
but u cannot use knees or elbows!! and there is a big game in kicking the internal zone of the leg in deffense, and not in attack!! its a very technical sprt, perhaps more than kb....but i thought it was kind of nationnal sport no one would know about of out of france :S
patrickangus16 1 year ago
@patrickangus16 well the sport in particular is not very popular outside of France, but people are learning I believe Cheick Kongo who is in the UFC was a Savate fighter
catstudent1 1 year ago
As for you, Cire21Century, youre wright, but not completely. Most of sport trainers do not allow you to use freestyle tehniques, no matter how careful you are. For example, my ex. savate trainer never allowed me to use sanda during our training, so that was destroying my individual approach and I left. In sport, there is too much rules and that sucks against real self defence.
gthzxh 1 year ago
this looks awsome
3101jimbo 1 year ago
wow i wish my savate was as good as theirs. Their kicks are so fast and they always stay in range. just looks awesome.
Odium1002 1 year ago
this was by far the best savate video ever..but what happened to the music?
skiesju 1 year ago
no art is the best its all on timing if you can only cross but can time it perfect at any angle and posistion you can beat anyone thats a fact
upstartriotriot 2 years ago
guy in the red pants is pretty hardcore
togurotheman 2 years ago 2
A martial art is only as good as the fighter who practises it. I've been doing savate for half a year now and KB for 3 years, both rather regularly, i.e. twice a week on average. During my last Savate training session, I've come across a guy who's been doing Kung Fu for 6 years, once a week. He was no real match for me.
eastbelgian 2 years ago 29
what do you mean? he wasnt strong enough? or on the contrary he was a beast? Im mean...once a week is a poor training in my opinion even if you practise for 6 years!
clemmat85 2 years ago
He wasn't good enough. He didn't have a good guard and he spent too much time standing on one leg, which is a fatal error as your adversary can easily sweep your standing leg away.
eastbelgian 2 years ago
@eastbelgian
fredyzpt 1 year ago
@eastbelgian The reason you win is that kung fu its not a martial art in reality. Bruce lee colled kung fu dry land swiming, is like a dancing thing. I practiced when i was litle karat after that kick boxing, taekwondo, and this years i'm practicing many muay thai and bjj, mma. I think that is the individe that make the diference but also what type of art you practice. In general Kung fu, karate and taekwando are sports of points, not efficient in real life. Muay thai and MMA are diferent thing.
HEADAIM 1 year ago
@HEADAIM idiot, Bruce Lee called Katas and Forms "dry land swimming", not kung fu. Get your facts straight, boy.
And its the other way around. Karate, Kung Fu and other traditionals are teh true martial arts. A martial art was invented to defend yourself, not for winning a match. Muay Thai is a watered down version of Muay Boran, and things like kickboxing and ufc are sports, nothing else.
Lestat220289 1 year ago
@Lestat220289 Whatever smart guy, i see you have lot of "knowledge" about this topic and of course you practice martial arts. Anyway that was my own personal idea and God given me this right.
HEADAIM 1 year ago
@HEADAIM Yes, I practice martial arts. It's not my opinion or yours either. There are combat sports and martial arts. COmbat sports can be effective inside a ring and outside of it, it just theyre not martial arts.
Lestat220289 1 year ago
@eastbelgian once a week?dude i do capoeira 4-6 times per week and when i do like 3 i feel like i havent trained at all.u cant be good in anything that u dont do daily or nearly daily for 2 hours week martial art or not.
Rose4Triandafyllos 1 year ago
@Rose4Triandafyllos 3 times a week is fine, your body needs time to rebuild muscle and get stronger. Either you have a superfast metabolism, your not training that hard, or capoeira isnt that demanding on the body
solidsnackumzzz 1 year ago
@eastbelgian Stop bragging why dont you tell when you get your ass kicked instead.
jpdt007 1 year ago
@eastbelgian if i put my fuckin bullet inside your head u'd be happy yes?
Hamburglar202 1 year ago
@eastbelgian Was he gayer than you?
GHOSTntheMACHINE 1 year ago
@eastbelgian
i all depents on the fighter
MegaSackman 1 year ago
@eastbelgian Clearly your first comment is false then. The reason that you beat him is BECAUSE you practice effect arts and he doesn't.
callum828 11 months ago
@eastbelgian ill fight you i have been doing muay thai for 10 years.
bloodynachos 7 months ago
@bloodynachos what is your weight class
IveGotTheNuts 7 months ago
This art looks very powerful but incredibly full of holes. It seems focused on powerful kicks and punches but the fighters look off balance the majority of the time...
JazGalaxy 2 years ago
It only looks like that. Trust me, that's not the case.
dakkar182 2 years ago
Lol
Savate fighters have perfect balance, this style is all about balance movement and speed actually
Cropheus 2 years ago
you can not balance well when some one knows really well how to attack your knees and this with the tip of his boot and sweep you of the floor, when you wear boots and kick with them that is how you should fight
balamanti2 2 years ago
that's weird. you've made the exact opposite statement most people usually make about savate.
most say it's to focused on combinations & footwork, but lacking in power.... hmm
daehanl 2 years ago
this is sport savate point system, look at self defense savate much more solid not flash. lol in sport savate you get points for being flashy
vermanshane 2 years ago
The holes are no kicking with the shins, no knees, no elbows and no practice with the clinch.
christopheclugston 2 years ago
You could also say, since you are obviously strategically and insinuatingly, implying that Muay Thai is superior, that Muay Thai doesn't have heel kicks, combinations, etc. I don't practice either but there are holes in any martial art. Ultimately comparing one to another is pointless right?
odin23581 2 years ago
Well put the Savate fighters in a MT fight and that will solve that. The only thing that Savate would be giving up is the shoe--so it should go to who is better. Savate has a good combinations but the elbow and knee will ruin over half of them.
And yes MMA and the former NHB were designed to stop this well my art is good too, banter. You might have missed the last 17 years though.
christopheclugston 2 years ago
I don't think so. I just consider MMA a very poor way to compare martial arts considering all the rules it has. The stance 99% of MMA fighters use is obsolete in a real fight because of groin shots. Generally the people who say MT/BJJ are best etc are the people who haven't been exposed to MA till UFC. And as I said there are holes in any MA. Every fighter has their own style. To take one literally is to limit what you can and can't do. To generalize is to speak of what does not exist.
odin23581 2 years ago
Did you graduate University? All science generalizes that's the pwoer of each discipline. The rule is always more powerful than the exception.
I was talking about NHB not the modern MMA fights as challenge to what works in competiion sport fighting.
France has very good fighters and their training techniques are fairly high (Holland above).
christopheclugston 2 years ago 2