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  • Why is Obama so scared of Netanyahu?

  • dumb turk

    

  • no you dont

  • The Bible says that in the end times that the whole world will hate Isreal. The world will rage war with Isreal but God will protect Isreal. vv

  • @paultheuglydog Bible also says God wrestled an angel, sun was made after plants, prophets committed incest, whole world had a flood, earth has 4 corners, etc..etc.. point is its full of bs and myths. Only retarded inbred hicks from the South take it seriously.

  • I can't stand Obama and would like to have a new president... however, I don't think he should have to apologize to Netanyahu. Why don't we just hold on to that $3,000,000,000,000 we give them in foreign aid, let him know where he stands with the US, and THEN let's see who has an apology to make.

  • I HAVE TO DEAL WITH HIM EVERY DAY!!!!

    lol

  • The main problem is that you americans think you have to right to an opinion about a conflict that doesn't concern you and that you want that opinion made into foreign policy. I foresee that americans will change their mind about Israel/Palestine and then just continue to meddle, but this time in favour of Palestine. I hope one day you lack to resources to do so and that the world just ignore your "expert opinions" on issues you could never understand.

  • America keeps committing Comprocide.

    America sure loves to use numbers in its Comprocide. A few deaths here ... a little genocide there (oh, pardon me -- "war") ... how does that look on the balance sheet?

    Red.

    What nations have already proven they cannot be trusted with nuclear bombs?

    I'll give you two hints. Only one nation has proven that it cannot be trusted with nuclear bombs.

  • yea he does not support the turkish doverment just because he is a turk

    he went several times against antisemetisim and he belives the right of isrel to exist

    and bibi is a jackass

    the young turks, as an israely dont listen to the right wing "everybody is an antisemite" bullshit here

  • this guy is anti semetic. anti jew and anti christian.

    check this out about the ottoman empire (Turkey)

    wiki/Assyrian_Genocide

  • obama got schooled, and shown how much of an idiot he is

  • Cenk your a dumb bastard why dont you just end your liberal ass kissing bullshit you suck ass!

  • jews got +10 vs zionist -0 hope it will be america awakenig.

  • jews got +10 vs zionist -0 hope it will america awakenig.

  • HAHA the young turk! I had warned you on another video where you criticized german neo-nazis! I told you that a bigger problem was the Zionist lobby in USA.

    And look at the top comments: I WAS FUCKING RIGHT

    Your country has been overrun by jew extremists and israelo-fascist partisans!

    Good luck getting rid of that. Not sure it's even possible

  • Take ALL the Land in the Muslims stole and return it the the Jews and Christians, including Medina. They should be left with Yemen and Saudia Arabia 'n MAYBE Iraq

    Return the land in the middle east to the rightful, original owners. Return the Muslims to Arabian peninsula. The people DESERVE their LAND BACK. The Arabs took it by the sword, Constantinople, Afganistan, Spain.

    We NEED to RECLAIM ALL of OUR land from the MUSLIM Conquerers!!!

  • @derekHSmith

    But the Christians and Persians attacked the Muslims first and lost...

  • clearly israel offered negotiations but the palestinian prime minister on national television declined the offer and said that palestinians will not support a jewish state.!

  • This Is Roy Severance here from my other Account to post the Response

  • You have some good points, but you are missing some other good points that make Obama Wrong like he got support from the Prince of Saudi Arabia to become the President of the Harvard Law Review. I'm Running for President in 2012 and will bring Peace in the Middle East one way or the Other it's time it Ends. And John Kerry Tells a lie anytime he wants See my Video the end covers this Israel and much more after the religious cartoon see video response

  • @RoySeverance I had to post this response from my other Original Account. as it can upload the longer videos.

  • @RoySeverance Sorry I guess TYT don't allow video Responses see it on my Yor Ecnareves channel now the featured video , sorry

  • HUH? netanyahu CAME to DC to sit with obama (for as long as it took) - "other" nations in(or around) the middle east won't "talk". Kidnapping, extortion, beheading, women being... my friend, you are missing some MAJOR parts... I like you but Obama's does what he "thinks" is right. He is still young. So are you, younger. Israel only GAVE since it's establishment. They don't want more "land"... The big hand of greed aims to make what's already "small", even "smaller"(look into it a bit more...).

  • @lbqt123np

    Fuck off mate. You are a TWAT.

  • 67 borders? The "territories" were occupied by Egypt and Jordany before 67. There never existed a palestine state. But now more and more states will recognize "Paelstine" and then the antichrist will coming leading the whole world against Israel. And then Jesus Christ comes back to save Israel.

  • why do poor people struggling to survive continue to reproduce? Maybe we can purchase land in Australia to repatriate the modern huddled masses.

  • the real hater to the jews are the jews,because simply.they make there living out of others misery.i never believed in any religion.i think religion are evil.not all the jews but the stat of Israel anyway.and thanks to the internet.it open the eyes of every one in this glob.so the facts start to speak for them self...

  • @kingnailbite Our president is an asshole. He is an amatuer and Netanyahu is a real leader. Man are you stupid.

  • @SciMasterGeneral PRES. OBAMA IS SIMPLY TIRED OF DEALING with this BULLSHIT. Main street Obama could care less about Israel's problems, but President Obama has to PRETEND that he gives a f*ck. Every U.S. president hates dealing with this shit, being a mediator, and always having to endure the pressure of fixing this crap. He's a leader because he's finally showing signs that the U.S. is tired of everyone wanting them to fix their problems.

  • @ArtistBet Simply tired of dealing? Then what is he president for. He has forced one of our only allies in the entire world to be one the defensive! Are you just stupid? How about lay into the Palestinians? Oh, that's right... because they are Islamic... and the prez just loves him some Islam. Much is a stake here Obama showed that he is irresponsible and an amatuer.

  • @SciMasterGeneral Obama began a step in the right direction to show that the U.S. is tired of being their bitch. By the way, how can a "state" that was founded in 1948 be considered the "Holy Land". You're implying just because they're an ally, the U.S. is supposed to let them walk over America. They need to throw away their arrogance and finally be treated on the same playing field as other allies. The U.S. is the only reason they're still on the map.

  • the only terrorist country in this world.is Israel.

  • @martin111227" the only terrorist country in this world.is Israel" What are you? An asshole is what.

  • @SciMasterGeneral i am not an ass hole,israel is going to end the world because it is made by sick people like your self,

  • he is not pathetic.he knows what he is doing.h just sad that it does not mean that it will work.

    anyway the end is near.

  • @kingnailbite And what do you think palistian policies are based on Hey how about Netanyahu just tell them we own it its ours and were fucking keeping it and if you don't shut the fuck up we will kick your arse out for not paying rent on the place were letting you stay at for free

  • im a jew and i think its pathetic how everyone hates us. we never did anything wrong and you guys just out the blame on us. smh get a life and go hate on other people! you will never destroy us. as you can see people have tried and dident get very far. so shut up and sit the fuck down

  • @mizzbieber4now i dont hate jews i have alot of respect for israel and wish people would just leave it the fuck alone, my grandfathers fought the nazis and people are quick to forget they tried to wipe jewish people of the face of the earth and now in the UK there are violent muslims demandin the right to stone women to death and hang gay people etc you dont see the jews trying to impose any of that nonsense on us yet the communists support radical islam and hate israel

  • radical Muslims are brain washed and they should shave very soon,cause they are out of fashion in every-way.

    but the jew they don't kill gay or wipe woman.they just bomb every body away.gay, woman children,baby, chicken,trees,cats,ect........­..............................­..............................­...........................you name it my friend.but there end just started in this year

  • And when, in Israel a day after 9/11, 9/11 parties were held, celebrating the attacks on the Trade Center, the thinking being that it was great that America got a taste of what it was like to be terrorist attacked and how now America might be more supportive of Israel (as if the US could be any more supportive than than it already is), what does that tell you about Israelis?

  • The fact that so many Palestinians celebrated recently when a Jewish baby had its throat slit tells us all we need to know about the peaceful intentions of the Arabs. Its not just Muslims in the middle east who are consumed by their hatred of Jews but here in Europe the level of Jew-hatred amongst Muslims is alarming. What we are experiencing in Europe with the high levels of Muslim immigration is a catastrophe.

  • I think this guy has like 500 accounts and likes himself - all comments say he's a moron.

  • Obama = little school boy

  • Listen to Cenk... He is a fucking idiot.... Do we need to get the approval from anybody to develop within our borders???? The Palistinians need to finally realize that Israel is a sovereign nation that has borders . Just like us and every other country in the world. Who are the Palastinian leaders? Answer: Blood thirsty, anti Semitic, anti American, anti democracy, anti Christian, anti HUMAN 8th century savages!

  • chosen people for the win! 

  • Obama is a fkn idiot! He is the true leader of all liberals.

  • @deathtrapdeath Obama is smarter than most conservatives!!!The conservatives almost destroyed america not the dems.His position on the two state solution is right on.

  • @enferno00 Bill Clinton vs. Glass-Steagall Act should clarify some of your liberal left wing idiocy.

  • @deathtrapdeath My left wing idiocy at the same time the republicans almost destroyed the country lol why are you cons so stupid.Now a dem must fix it,and am actually a independent.Lets not forget how crooked you clowns are smh.I cannot believe you idiots want us to vote for the cons who damn near destroyed the country.

    watch?v=1mTj33oepkQ

    watch?v=NwVb5-OQ_Wg

  • To all my jewish friends I should say, the world around Israel is changing very rapidly. Its time to be realistic rather than sensational. Arabs were like this ,and Jews were like that, is a childish talk. Jews have contributed to this world and so did the Arabs,(cousins). Who invented Algebra? Who invented numbers the way we know it today? Bibi may mean well but his actions have given him some ugly titles all over the world. Israel would need any friend she can find. US alone is not enough.

  • Hey... I thought that the Young Turks were the one's who tried to make Turkey a modern nation by excluding the Muslims from political power.

  • This arab-american is a good propoganda tool for Obama

  • obama nice

  • Dude, are you for real? You need to seriously think about getting a new job bro. 

  • Hey, they kicked the ass of 7 Arab nations XD God really is on theyre side!

  • @isnthatAhearn 7 arab tribes , they outnumbered the Arabs at the time and had the support of colonial forces

    you know Arabs didn' have penicillin , food sufficiency or vaccinations . the Arab at the time was a 5th class human being worker for the colonials ... while the jews were already living the industrial age's demographic boom and getting shipped like excess cattle from European nations ...

  • What Netanyahu said in private pales in comparison to what the leaders of Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and Iran say in private. Israeli leaders have never expressed a desire to completely destroy their neighbors. Not the same with the latter.

  • JEWS=SHIT VERY SIMPLE

  • How dare this arrogant this Zionist criminal lecture our president before the eyes of the world...Israel,the clock is ticking, you bloodsuckers.

  • What happened was that a naive and very much over-his-head president took the

    side of a group of people who have vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

    What happened was that a history lesson was given by Netenyahu as to why

    what Obama had proposed, is "not going to happen".

    What happened was that this current president has now alienated Japan,

    Korea, Great Britain.....and now the only middle east country who we were

    close with, Israel.

  • Netanyahu :" Israel wants piece, I want a piece" (of land)

  • This black African slave OBAMA does not understand that he will not get a single Jewish penny for his re-election bid............if he doesn't stop anti-Israeli rhetoric.We can also get the idiot impeached at will.Most of the Republicans as well as Democrat law makers are under our pay roll, like most of the evangelical pastors.He got elected by AIPAC money, now turning his back on us.Damn Obama, damn who support him.Israel will not compromise with their borders.

  • @JosephBernstein Being fare and decent automatically becomes anti-Israel. America will never be free until her politicians free themselves from the "Jewish penny" for their elections.

  • First: Get Rid of Hamas.

    Second: Free Palestine.

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  • נו מה אתה אומר עכשיו על נתניהו ?

    גם עכשיו חוסיין עושה לו בית ספר ? או ההפך ?

    לך תעשה איזה שווארמה יטורקי מפגר - יהודים חיו בישראל עוד לפני שידעתם מה זה איסלאם

    מה ששכחנו אתם המוסלמים גם עוד 1000 שנה לא תגיעו לרבע מההשגים שלנו יחתיכת מוסלמינאצי

    אה ומשהו אחרון לסיום ... FREE KURDISTAN !!! TURKS DID GENOCIDE TO THE ARMENIANS - 2 MILLION PEOPLE !!!

    אה ועוד משהו ... תעשה טובה , חומוס צ'יפס סלט לשולחן ארבע ומהר אחמד ...

  • @wforlife7 Assyrians as well. 750,000

  • You can't really be that biased. Netanyahu must protect Israel. The radical arm of Islam wants all of Israel wiped off the map. Why you think they can be trusted is beyond understanding.

  • Netanyahoo is a jerk. Obama as all US presidents are whimps when it comes to confronting Israel because of the Jewish gridlock on America. Israeli Occupation will never end in Palestine until the Israeli occupation ends in America.

    Cantor is an Israeli agent more so than an American politician.

  • @Fukkutah Wow, that's a beautiful quote: "Israel Occupation will never end in Palestine until the Israeli occupation ends in America". I wish the American people were all conscious of this.

  • Netanyahoo is a jerk. Obama as all US presidents are whimps when it comes to confronting Israel because of the Jewish gridlock on America. Occupation will never end in Palestine until the occupation ends in America.

    Cantor is an Israeli agent more so than an American politician.

  • Hey YoungDORK, why don't you ask whimpy INCOMPENTENT Obama to protect our borders, You know ARIZONA, TEXAS, Mexico? Obama is a fraud, LIAR and a sham. As soon as the lame stream media accepts this, reports the truth, ask the tough questions, we might take you serious. This YoungDORK guy is a sham!

  • Young Turks ignore HAMAS and goals of Israeli destruction. Idiots.

  • I bet you think you can continue your palistinian 2 state fuck up plan.

    I think you just bought yourself a death threat.

  • I don't mind when you talk your shit about anything except this issue.

    on this issue , I'll phuckin kill you.

  • wow , I think it's time to straight up boycott you TYT.

  • @azkeyz why, can't you cope with propaganda-less politics? Fuck Israel. If it were up to every one in the world other than Israel and America, there would be a 1 state solution. Palestine. Free Palestine.

  • @urbanpoems

    you give a good reminder of why Israel needs nukes and needs to make sure their neighbors don't.

  • well I thought maybe this guy wouldn't talk his bullshit , but I can see he's a 2 state fuck up.

    I'm dissapointed in you TYT , there can be no peace with the islamic world they are terrorists.

    If it were up to me , I'd ship your ass to iran.

  • I'm going to respond to your title.

    Here is what happened. Netanyahu got up this morning, had a nice breakfast,

    went to the Whitehouse and told that idiot Obama how everything was going to go.

    Do you think that Netanyahu would bend to the likes of Obama? Obama is not even in the same league and it is obvious to everyone but him.

    Obama spouts off stuff because he is arrogant enough to believe that everyone respects what he says.

    He dumped on an ally in favor of our enemy. He is Shameful.

  • This guy is completely diluted. Do you honestly think that giving the Palestinians everything they want in this dispute will settle it? Reality Flash, they are lead around and are puppets of many other leaders of that region as well as terrorist organizations. Until every Jew is dead, they will not be happy. Read history, you may be on a start for speaking credibly.

  • Israel=Welfare Recipient=American Taxpayer Bloodsucker

  • Netanyahu 5 Obama 0

  • @hager3030 Obama bin Ladin is out to destroy Israel and the United States of America. Obama bust be IMPEACHED before he and his cronies succeed. AMERICA may never see an election in 2012 if he is not impeached.

  • @hager3030 Bingo!

  • @hager3030 Are you kidding? Netanyahu is an ex Sayeret Matkal commando and the brother of Yonatan Netanyahu, the most famous soldier in Israel's history. Netanyahu has been saying the same thing since the seventies. He figured Obama would cave, just like he did with the Republicans, and guess what? he did.

  • I guess this was filmed before Netanyahu spoke before congress and got a bigger ovation than Obama, eh?

  • What really happened?...Obama met a real leader..Obama got his well`deserved lecture.

  • This guy is a retard. Please shut up...

  • @BrianMorrison71 netanyahu is a fag, and so are you.

  • This guy is a moron that has no clue what the real issues are.....and Obama is a muslim, so of course he wants an idiotic solution like this.

  • how did this guy found out what they said privately?

  • @MrVistaCruiser Don't have to be killed but they can gtfo

  • "Occupied territories"? Israel was given the right to inhabit Israel by the British.

  • @brco2003 Bullshit, they are stealing land and saying it's there's because the Bible says it is. Whenever you try to steal other people's land you deserve whatever comes to you.

  • @brco2003 Umm, The land was established as there's as a British Mandate in 1948. That's why it's not occupied. And they continually give up some of their land with the hopes of making peace with its neighbors, and yet, they are still attacked.

  • @brco2003 - so you honestly believe that Britain has the right to give away other peoples land? , well guess what we in britian owned america about 300 years ago, and well we have decided to give it to the russians.... so yea your gonna have to move, see the point im making?

  • @dan11009 Britain had control over the land, and decided to give it away. How is anything wrong with that?

  • @brco2003 - well if there wasnt anything wrong with it, then why have the palestinians been waring for 40 years?. they obviously didnt want it to happen, they werent consulted - this isnt a video game were talking about here, did germany have the right to remove jews from there land because they controled it? ofcourse not, and neither do israelis have the right to remove arabs from land they have been on for 1000s of years

  • @dan11009 Jews don't remove people from their land. In fact, Israeli leaders have been offering up portions of land to Arabs in exchange for peace treaties, but Arab leaders won't accept it. The Jews just want to live in Israel in peace without kicking Arabs out. They are willing to make sacrifices, such as land. However, Arabs won't accept it because they literally want to see the Jews dead. How is this fair?

  • @brco2003 - this isnt the whole story, the Palestinians had ALL of isreal before 1960s, the jewish community forced them of the land with military force and placed them all in the gaza strip, if some foriegn occupier took all your countries land youd be happy taking a small percentage of it back? or you would want to remove them> arabs might want to "see" jews dead , but jews are activly starving people to death in gaza strip, im not pro muslim , but on this one they are morally corrected

  • @brco2003 Britain only gave them a small percentage of land and they started to steal more.

  • @brco2003 so when i went to israel and saw with my own eyes israeli soldiers beating the shit out of a family and dragging them out to have their house bull dozed for a new settlement i guess me and the other of activists were dreaming and were on drugs. yes the whole world sees this stuff but people are financially and politically threatened by israel because it has jewish and christian zionists supporters in the america covering up for them and helping this ethnic cleansing. u been exposed!

  • @brco2003  ok so how would you like it if some one took over your house and said i am going to give this house to someone else... the only people who support israel are jewish american zionists, right wing christianzionists who want to their prophecy of jesus returning when they help support israel kick off all the palestinians, which then the jews will die in a lake of fire according to christian prophecy when the whole country is theres.. and of course the mislead ignorant american..

  • I think you should shut your mouth.... You have no idea what is going on in the world.... I hope you get hit by a car and die!!

  • 2

    israeli children were murdered today including both their parents.

    I HATE THIS REPORTER!!!

    btw im sure he is funded by hamas

  • It is a new day, American Congress is lead by the democrats. And we all know democrats are idiots, as is you. Learn history. It has not been Israel who has broken every and all treaties for peace in the past, it has been every arab country and extreme islamic lead factions ie hamas, the palestanians. Even if you have a two state country you will have no peace. Not because of Israel but because of the countries surrounding Israel. Israel needs a buffer zone. That's why no two country.

  • Hey Chung...Just use a little less starch on my shirts and I'll worry about the hugs

  • @SRVClapton1990 you need a hug...

  • Netanyahusaurus a near extinct species of dinosaur of the Zionosaurus family. Benjamin Netanyahu is the only one left!

  • Turkish people are dirty scum bags, with the rest of the muslim world, piss on them all while u have a chance.

  • in short....don't expect obama to be re-elected.

  • 

    Why doesn't Obama insist on the Palestinians recognising the Jewish state. I'm all for a two state solution but not at any price. How can anyone envisage a 2 state solution when one state openly delares that their aim is to annihilate the other.This is the main issue all other is bla bla How come there are Arabs living in Israel but Jews cannot live in a Palestinian state.

  • @loolie161

    Why don't American Jews recognize the USA as a Christian state?

  • @petersz98

    Kansas is your Christian state

  • @petersz98 The First Amendment of the United States Constitution prevents the Federal government from making any "law respecting an establishment of religion", and guarantees the right to exercise any religion.

  • @petersz98 USA isnt Christian, check your constitution..

  • Why doesn't Obama demand of and insist on the Palestinians accepting the existence of a Jewish country called Israel

    I'm all for a two state solution but not at any price. How can anyone envisage a two state solution when one state openly declares that their aim is to annihilate the other state. This is the main issue to be handled All other talk is bla bla. As far as the settlement issue my question is why are there Israeli Arabs but there cannot be Palestinian Jews living in Palestine.

  • Actually try peace? That is what the Israeli government has been doing since the reestablishment of Israel. BUT they have been doing it wrong many times. In order to have peace Israel MUST destroy the terrorists. They have to leave Israel. Let them go to one of the 22 Arab countries. Arabs kicked Jews out and stole their properties, even murdered Jews. The Arabs should take in their own to their lands.

  • 2 state solution wont bring peace. Look at what happened when arabs were given gaza. They started launching rockets into Israeli cities. Ill tell you a great solution. Why not pay the Arabs to leave Israel? With all of this $ lost why not pay the arabs to voluntarily leave.

  • @extazy17 typical jews throwing money to fix problems money wont fix this problem jew go shuv it up ur ass

  • @KoNviCtEd88 You cant address my points. Most Arabs want to leave anyway. If you love the Arabs soo much why dont you want to help them leave? (Unless your true motivation is as suspected which is hatred of Jews).

  • @extazy17

    the zionist regime belong to europe.. not palestine!

  • @TVCreed When I open the Bible, I see G-D saying that the land of Israel is in Israel and not Europe. All the people agains't Israel are really agains't G-D. Stop being full of ignorance and hate and open the Bible for a change.

  • @extazy17 Lol, i loved that thing you said about ignorance ==)

    Since you said "open the bible for a change", well i accept, but will you accept everything said in the bible from the first page to the last or you'll just take whatever suits your needs ?

  • @sfinkis I do accept everything in the Bible, BUT besides what was given in the Bible their is also an Oral translation that explains what the Bible says. Soo yes I do accept the Bible becuase it was given by G-D, but besides what was given in written form their is also the Oral tradition that properly explains the Bible, uncovers the meaning and also has secrets.

  • @extazy17 Ok, this is great, and i agree with you regarding the translation, but since there are so many translations, can you tell me which ones are the authenticated ones for you? this will make it easier .

  • @sfinkis Actually in Judaism their is only 1 version of the Bible. What I meant by the oral translation and explanation I mean the tradition that was handed down since the Bible was given on Mt. Sinai to the nation of Israel, down to the present generation. It was handed down from father to son, teacher to student. It wasn't written until a certain time where it had to be written becuase some things were starting to get lost and forgotten (greatly because of exile and persecution).

  • @extazy17 Ok great, by reading the bible for a change i faced some things that needs to be clarified. As stated in Genesis 17, God has confirmed his covenant with Abraham and promised to greatly increase his numbers, and informed him that he will have a blessed great nation and kings through his son Isaac. May i ask here four questions. First: What does this blessing resembles? Second: What is meant here by "Great Nation" ? Third: Who is this great nation? Fourth: Who are these kings?

  • @sfinkis  Great nation- I need to reread exactly but from what I remember great nation is the unique nation that came from Abrahams, Yitzhaks and Isaaks seed (also the sincere converts who joined them). Great doesn't mean great in numbers, becuase G-D also says to Israel I didn't choose you because of your great numbers.( when He took Israel out of Egypt). Great is more about the greatness in quality (not quantity).

  • @extazy17 Also the great quantity does add up when we look at all the generations combined + the future after the Messiah comes their will be much much more in birthrate (as said by the prophet Yeshiyahu)

     The kings are the David dynasty that will be restored in the near future. (it can also include the other lines of kings such as Shaul and also from the 10 tribes although those were temporary lines while the Davidic dynasty is forever once its reestablished G-D willing soon).

  • @extazy17 Thanks for your direct brief answer. I do agree with you that "Great Nation" resembles quality and not quantity because when God talked about quantity he said directly "will greatly increase your numbers" as in Genesis 17:1. But before going to the next point you forgot to answer my first question; What does this blessing resembles? In other words, does it resemble the existence of the Prophecy (Exclusive or not) line in Isaac's descendants or it's just a a general blessing or what ?

  • @sfinkis I'm not exactly sure but I would guess that when we see throughout history of great accomplishments we see many times its Jews. We see it both in the secular and Religious world. Medicine, inventions etc. BUT more importantly and often less noticed in the Religious sense. Jews study and follow the Torah which is the Book of G-D. We had many great Prophets including Kind David (who wrote Psalms) King Hezkiah, Isaia etc. (over 1.2 million people who reached the level of prophesy).

  • @extazy17 Well i don't agree with you that most accomplishments were done by Jews, if u r interested i can provide you with a very long list of Christian & Muslim great inventors and scientists and even proved by the Torah. And here comes my second question, can you explain Genesis 17:20 "And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation"

  • @sfinkis Genesis 17:20- its 12 princes used bc also translated as "clouds", to allude to the fact that his offspring will enjoy a period of ascendancy, but ultimatly they will dissipate like clouds. Also if you go to verse 18 Abraham prays for Ishmael. verse 19- G-D says That Sarah will give birth to Isaac and G-D will fulfill His covenant with him. v.20- its G-D's saying to Abraham that nevertheless He will bless Ishmael with many offspring and that he will get some benefits soo to speak.

  • @extazy17 Can you explain this verse the same way you explained the previous one? And off-course you'll have the same questions like First: What does this blessing resembles? Second: Who is this Great Nation? Third: Who are these twelve rulers?

  • @sfinkis( Ill say it quickly and if its not suited you can ask again and ill reply some time later)

    12 rulers are the 12 sons of ishmael (their is a list I have it, if its important for you I can list it later).

    - According to many in the Jewish tradition (also I believe Muslims took it from Jews and believe this also) the Arabs in the Middle east, like Saudia Arabia especially are the descendants of Ishmael. Mohamed was also (from Kedar I believe).

  • @sfinkis ..... The blessing is that they will rule a large area (as thy do)- like Saudia Arabia, even going into other territory (like Iraq) and I would (think) that their cultural ideas etc. (especially Islam) to other nations not even their descendents (Iran, south Asia etc.). All fall under the influence of Ishmael. Also according to Kabbalah the Land of Israel (BUT for a limited period of time FOR being circumcized at age 13.- Soo getting control of Israel for 1,300 years- which ended)

  • @extazy17 That's great, but to figure out two points. The first point is that the same word "great nation" you explained it in two different meanings. For Isaac it means that his descendants will be great people (inventors, medics, etc..) But for Ishmael "great nation" means that they will rule a large area!!! In what right you gave it two different meanings. To be objective you have to give it the same meaning for both

  • @extazy17 The second point: You pointed out the covenant issue to differentiate between Isaac and Ishmael and that's why i asked about it intentionally in the first place. So again i need to ask: Does this covenant mentioned in Genesis between God and Abraham means that prophets may only descend through Isaac? And by the way Prophesy isn't something to reach as you said before, it's something that God gives it to his servant, and this is a fact in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

  • @sfinkis Also around middle of 600's (don't have the exact date research it, or I can later)- Arabs took the land of Israel, and 1,300 years later their "reward" (while the Jews weren't fully their) for being circumcised at 13, ended with Jews taking the land in the midd. 1,900's (1948 or 1949).

  • @extazy17 It's really not objective when the same word is manipulated to mean other things for different people.

    Great Nation: For Isaac it resembles Quality but for Ishmael resembles Quantity!!!

    Blessing: For isaac it resembles good descendants but for Ishmael resembles taking over large land!!!

    Do you really find this objective???

    You opened a new subject regarding that the land was for israel and then the arab took over, well i'll leave this point till we finish what we are talking about

  • @sfinkis About Quality and Ishmael-  G-D does say that Ishmael will be a wild beast. His hand agains't everyone and everyone's hand agains't him. (openly in the Bible) Soo we see its not quality that G-D is talking about with Ishmael. (Although the Jewish sages do say that Ishmael did make repentance in the end and he buried his father together with Isaac and then left back to where his father sent him- To the East, the Arabian lands.) BUT still isn't on the same level as Isaak as we see.

  • @extazy17 And still didn't answer my question sir, and here is a copy paste thing if you missed it "Does this covenant mentioned in Genesis between God and Abraham means that prophets may only descend through Isaac? And by the way Prophesy isn't something to reach as you said before, it's something that God gives it to his servant, and this is a fact in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam."

  • @sfinkis The covenant and prophets are 2 different things. And YES prophets can and did issue from other nations. example- Iyov, and Bilam (maybe some other's also). I didn't say prophecy isn't something to be reached. It is something that people worked hard and long to achieve (some were worthy, others not while others were worthy but didn't recieve it bc of the generation etc.) I know where you are going with this. You want to say see G-D therefor came to mo. But it is impossible bc..

  • @sfinkis Mo was an ignorant man. To be a prophet took, knowledge, Discipline, great character traits, etc. Mo didn't have them. Infact as you know, he bragged about being an ignorant man who cant even READ! Mo also bragged about the way he made "peace" treaty with a tribe (Koresh) and then killed them while their guard was down. Is that great character traits? Tell me how can you claim someone like that to be a prophet? Also he didn't say anything prophetic. Jihad isn't an accomplishment.

  • @extazy17 I thought you might be an objective man, but you just showed that you are just ignorant as your ancestors and your culture, i quote to you from your scriptures and ask you for explanations you answer by running away to the point that Palestine is for the Israelis, I ask you to postpone this issue till we finish what we are talking about you jump and say "well i have a video proof that the Quran says that the land is for the Israelies"

  • @extazy17 I ask you about the proof of what you are claiming, so give me the Sura name and the verse number, you reply by offending Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) without stating ONE single proof of your claims!!!!!!! Your ignorance is killing you man!

    You are so weak, you even run away from providing proof or any kind of evidence!

    You just keep running away by jumping and throwing false accusations to make me forget the initial point and start debunking what you are saying. That's so pathetic!