I have an idea! Once we all post videos saying "I am macedonian!" lets do it! We are all macedonians! so... lets make a new country called macedonia and revive the ancient macedonia! One unique new and trully united country with Greek as official language . Just like then! And then history will be proud of us!
thank you to all the greek heros who saved western culture at so many great battles eg: marathon,thermopylae,plataea,macale and of course the great alexander and his historic victory over the persians at gaugamela and on into india.Alexander,men like him just dont exist anymore.A giant among men
ΑΠΟΛΛΩΝΙΑ (APOLLONIA-region of ANCIENT MAKEDONIA) ΠΕΛΛΑ (CAPITAL OF ANCIENT MAKEDONIA) ΒΕΡΓΙΝΑ (VERGINA-the first CAPITAL of ANCIENT MAKEDONIA) = MAKEDONIC CITY NAMES.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US HOW THE FUCK YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU COME FROM ANCIENT MAKEDONIANS,WHEN YOUR SURNAMES ARE PETROVSKI,PERIC,GRUEFSKI,GETCHEVSKY???
MY greek friend i love u...And thank u for enlighting me.....after our many text and hours of reserch...Im am proud too say that I AM with u on this one...ur debate has made be smarter thank u for that...Dont go and rub it in though...im a simple american and god nows we are not smart as our euopean conterparts...I belive that macedion did consider themselves greek...although they were the greeks from the country..present day macedion is not the acient macedion....God bless u sir
@winningtrolls American old movie, historically is more accuarate than the one of Spielbergs!, learn history and have fun! /watch?v=Y1l3GIDVqpg&feature=uploademail
What does it mean to be greek....is it were u born...is it what gods u belive in...is it ur race and religion.....if we can awnser these questions maybe we can open our hearts to the true awsner of alexander...I have a hebrew name....I worship a hebrew god....I follow a goverment that emuliates greek and roman laws....i spread english everywhere i go....but im no hebrew and im defentily not an englishmen...and i highly doubt that rome or greece would claim me....
Dont be botherd my greek friend u should give me your email address or facebook so me and u may debate this as proper gentlemen...I was kidding ur video is very interesting but im just not sold my greek friend...
@winningtrolls a proper gentleman should be proper gentleman from the start, serious and powerfull, but you were nto and you are not,your invitation is interesting, but i will not accept it, o nthe other had i ask you if you like to go to my chanel page and wach every video that is about the Macedonian issue and comment ACCORDING the video, if you , like proper gentlemans,There you can say your opinion about history. no you have nt sold anyhting, your a victim of propaganda and of bad people!
I love u my Greek friend Maybe i got nasty because iam indeed a smart man...and u offended me...But know its all so clear to me...UR Papa told u bedtime stories about alexander...He told u what a greek hero he was and u grew up believing it...TO Ur Horror when u grew up U learned that he was NO greek but actaul macidon...A kingdom too the north of greece...Listin my friend dont cry....dont cry...Iam here for u..
@winningtrolls .smartness in the Slavic world is soemthing different than in the rest of the world, i might had offented you, or it looked like that, but it was just a replay in your offenicive tonogue. My papa dear barbarian is Plutarch, Arrian, Herodotys, Thukididis, Diodorus od Cisely,Q. Curtius Rufus, Clisthenes,Strabo, Hesiod, Homer, ect.as archaeology, name one papa if you have :)
@socratis904 Yes indeed my greek friend...first let me say im no slav...Infact i get i kick everytime u say it...I dont no why....The truth is that my granfather killed slavs in ww2...SS nazi he was but dont worry im not proud of that fact...and im pretty sure on his death bed he said i love my furuher...thats what my mon said she hated the pric and almost divorced daddy because of it...
@winningtrolls and think before you go to bed tonight that when i was in your country,in the ancient Paeonia+Dardania that only has about 11% of the ancient Macedonia i could read all the ancient "Macedonian" inscriptions as your politician and archaeologist presents as ithey are presented in your tv chanells, and understaood them in most, when my company, your country man could only read some letters,and some of the words but in the wrong tone,wondering what do they mean, many Greek names too!
@winningtrolls I dont know if you are an asshole or not, and i do not care, but you showed me once again that you are a malakas, Greek word, it means soft, stupid, nayve, easy going persson,. you bothered me all those days, you spoke dirty to me, arguing at the same time for historical facts about Macedonian identity,without haveing any knowledge of history something that you admit now, interesting, well read history, i hope this will lighten your life as it has mine!
@socratis904 So my greek friend....im done so more reading and research ...and im still not convinced of ur theory.....I know whats happening here kind sir...UR granpapa...or PAPA told u bedtimes storys of alexander the great...Told u what a Greek hero he was...u read all the books back and front.....U idealize him as aFamily hero....This youtube page is in honnor of ur Papa...PAPA greek...BUT To your horror and Shame u discoverd in fact he is not greek he is macedion....GO TO COMMENTS..
@socratis904 So my greek friend....im done so more reading and research ...and im still not convinced of ur theory.....I know whats happening here kind sir...UR granpapa...or PAPA told u bedtimes storys of alexander the great...Told u what a Greek hero he was...u read all the books back and front.....U idealize him as aFamily hero....This youtube page is in honnor of ur Papa...PAPA greek...BUT To your horror and Shame u discoverd in fact he is not greek he is macedion....
Come on man.....ur losing my point my brother.... were the macedions greek like .....hell ya....did they speak greek fuck right.....did they want to imulate the greeks .....yes......but they were not greeks in the proper sense....if they were greek then why did greece ally themselves with the romans to throw of the macedion yoke....come on man.....do sum soul serchin cousins aint brothers...u now this homie....
Dude i just watch the video again it it sucks.....ur tryin to say that alexander was greek because there was greek culture in macedion...u weirdo....get ur facts strait buddy ur making a far reach nerd....I have a hebrew name dont make me jewish bitch....u suck
@winningtrolls . look at that video again and tell me, do you see some pictures of books? well those books are the prototypes, that tell the story of Alexander of Macedonia,there are also presentations of texts of writtrs like Hesiod and Herodotus (THE FATHER OF HISTORY) ect.In history Macedonia and the Macedonians are presented as Greeks, except the words of one that this one is the orator Demosthenes, If you want to argue with history, find a right way to do it and state your claim got it ?
@socratis904 OK my friend lets just look at this logicaly.......Greeks did not take other greeks as slaves......would u agree.........the only greeks whom broke this rule was the spartans who used war as the excuse to enslave the hellot greeks.....now think my history friend why was there macedoin slave all over athens.....come on man the athenians didnt consider the macedoins greeks and here u are claimin them as greeks....macedion empire Albania,bulgaria,turkey,macediona...now greek dude..
@winningtrolls, your knowlege in history is very poor, yout way of thinking if not logical, and this is happening because you are a Slav, and 2nt your race past comiunism. you were on the other site so you cant know and thing west way yet. i will help you. for the slavery thing you are wrong, you also must read about after the batter in Granikos river, what had happened with the Greek misionaries that had joined the Persians, Arrian and Plutarch,HISTORY.i name history, i state my claim, u dont!
dude listin i just went to sum other youtube video and sum old couple answerd are fight......for 30,000 grand give or take i dont rember this question was possed to them..." which nationality is alexander the great" and they like u said GREEK........will my friend they did not get the money....the correct anwser is macedionan said this Game show host....but hay its just a game show so im not to exited....
@winningtrolls you are not exited but you mention it,mmm interesting! well learn that after few days this chanel that the game was taken place the asked for apologies from Greece, not from FYROM!
@winningtrolls . i am not getting in to your level so i dont speak dirty to you, i only call you barbarian because as a Slav that you are you are a barbarian,as you are named by the greeks for 1500 years now. and also a barbarian you are as an uneducated human, with a brain full of shit and a heart poisoned by the propaganda and your low brain. and as Plutarch wrote 2000 years ago. Alexander made it, His philosophy,what ever good Greek to be and what ever bad full of hate to be barbaric!
IM schooling u on ur on video how sad are u....ur proubly crying ur eyes out......ur saying why does nobody believe alexander is greek.....cause hes not retard....ur a fool who wants to start drama.....u better read up on macedion punk.....What a loser u are trying to rewrite history hahahahah.....such a fool
The greeks are claimindg macedonia Only because of alexander the great.......THe spartans and there allies attacked macedion while alexander was conquering the world.....And now u want to take credit.....After alexander burnt thebes to the ground Athens Gave alexander little to No help read ur history virgin nerd.....ur a loser kind sir to put up this video....Alexander was MACedonian......NOT GREEK PUNK
@winningtrolls This history that is presented in this video presentation as in my other videos my sweet barbarian is the Greek history that you suggest me to read, It is also the ONLY HISTORY,, something that in your pathetic country does nt exist. And dont tell me that in your coutry you have publications of Plutarch and Arrian about the history of Alexander because you do not have them. You just have some books that have texts of comments on their writtings, my sweet little barbarian.
the greeks thought of macodenians as barbarians, the macedonians were like canadains to the united states.One could make the argument that alexander is greek but one could also make the argument that canadians are americans
the greeks thought of macodenians as barbarians, the macedonians were like canadains to the united states.One could make the argument that alexander is greek but one could also make the arfument that canadians are americans
@socratis904 An athienan poet who hated phillip raled against the macedonians as barbarians..he said " and then theres the land to the north macedonia were u cant even get a good slave"....Sum scholars refer to this as meaning the macedonians were a wild buch...futher more there strong evedince that the macedonians were more aryan in facial futures a few acient writers say sow...phillip was the first macedoian king to take education seriously making sure his son had all the finest tutors..
@winningtrolls .A poet? No poet ever said that, i suppose you mean Demosthenes and he was orator.a politician, so think a little and then read history, and then think again, i suggest you to read history a lot and a good history. so to learn about the history of Macedonia as the story about Demosthenes!
@socratis904 So then u no what im talking about....then kind sir......its all true u now it are u in fact macedion is that why ur so offended....i mean this is ur forum u no all right.......THe macodians too the north were a barbaric like peoples so said every body in anquity .....so why are offend.......Are u arguing the point that the macedions were indeed more ayran the there greek conter parts......is what im saying wrong or ARE U A LOSER at life.....U now im right u Virgin Nerd ...hahah
@winningtrolls .except that its little hard to understand that because of yuor bad English i will suggest to you except Demosthenes there was Isokrates and Eschenes, Athenians too, orators too and politicians too my sweet little uneducated Slav barbarian!
HELLENEN beweist uns alle MAKEDONIA , seit wann Ihr GRIECHEN (also mit hellenischer Herkunft), sesshaft in das eroberte Makedonien von den HELLENEN , seit. Beweist uns das über mehrere Generationen hinweg, nicht mit Denkmähler oder sonstige Propaganda, mit beglaubigte Urkunden über mehrere Generationen.
Ihr Griechen habt nichts aber absolut nichts mit den MAKEDONIER gemeinsamm. Ihr klaut unsere Kultur , und alle Makedonischen Besitztümer.
@socratis904 barbarian? iam not harming your people with genocide! So who is the barbarian now, gypsy?! ..You should better ask Merkel for another financial injection!
how about going to the library and reading some plutarchian texts? he´s the one who wrote that there´s some big differences between the macedonian people and the greek. if that doesnt convince you, take a look at the Holy Bible where St. Paul "[...] went to Macedonia and after that to Greece where he stayed for three months." NP
@MKDNebo if you had read Plutarch you d know why you are named barbarian by me. as for the genocide, well unfortunatelly it was nt complite, After all the bad things you Bulgarians did and thats why i acuse Basil 2nt, because he just took the eyes of some of your ancestors and the other let them live, when he should cut their balls or kill them so Balkans to stay in piece for ever,
@socratis904 it´s all the time the same ridiculous bullshit with you stupid racists. did you read what you have written there? it´s pretty clear to see that your existence is a shame! you are such a terrorist omfg you should be sentenced to death -.- and all your greek-bulgaro-serbian propaganda is a contradiction in itself. you won't wipe out the macedonian existence. EVEN IF WE WOULD ASSUME THAT MACEDONIA HAD GREEK-SOURCES (WHICH IS NOT TRUE AT ALL) then you would not kill "your" people -.-
@MKDNebo we will see who will die first, and i forgot to tell you that no matter if the Greeks have Ethiopian roots this will not make you Macedonian :) you did nt answered to me about Plutarch, you mention him first, you mention the ancient Greek writters,so why when i talk about this and ask you to tell me details about you do not replay my sweet little barbarian ? why you speak with insults when if you are right and have those that can prove the truth, you do not present to me the facts?
@socratis904 you know what? basically i dont owe you answers because it wont change your mind anyway. you're just an egoistic terrorist and i don't care what YOU think of me :) I'm one of Alexander's descendants and that's about it, sweetie. No, don't think "haaha he din't bring facts cause he doen't know..", because as I told you : It wouldnt even change a thing if I'd bring them.. as they say "the cleverer give in", you see what Iam.."the cleverer" :) this discussion is useless. dont await me
@MKDNebo i wish you were clever, i wish you could give me something, but you do not and do you know why? because you are a stupid human, that you as your grand parents felt on the propaganda of some politicians.
@MKDNebo as for Merkel well look first for what Greece had given to your country, i had delivered financial help with my hands but you do now that a? gypsie? well you can come and meet me and see if i am gypsie :) you are invited, as for history that you mention, we can meet in peace if you like, and you ll bring your books and i will have mine and see what is going on, do you agree barbarian or i should say something worst, Slavbulgar victim of propaganda and political -economical victim....
@socratis904 It is true that greece influences macedonia´s economy because of the connection to the ocean via solun[thessalonikikiki] (which you took from us by mistake in 1913)!
that youll bring your faked-greek-books is not hard to predict :) maybe well try with some neutral sources like german or british ones? some day the sun will shine upon your terrorist-faces and burn you.. slavbulgarian as a insult is pretty funny because its not true - the greek are descendants of ethiopian tribes btw
@MKDNebo Not only influence but gave money and medical help with medical equitment too. the slav bulgarian if its insults you then you must change the language that you speak or ask the other slav bulgarians to change their language, and if you like yes bring your German and British book. welcome :) as for the name Solun, ha! i can take the chalenge if you like but first you must tell me what it need to prove the real name and then present the facts!
@GoN95100 I can't I give my soons greek names because we had the brain to make names you had to steel greeknames and transform them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Albanians they stupids and gayst people on the world. MAKEDONIA IS GREEK. albanian xD
@GoN95100 Hahahahahaha Alexander The Great was Illyro- Albanian xD xD xD xD And why all Makedonian found are in greek letters and greek sculptures and don't tell me he was philhellen because if he was only philhellen it couldn't be the whole other people of him.
By the way Illyria was made by Illyrios and funny is that he has a GREEK name. Illyria was GREEK. The Greeks at the ancient time send there disabled children to Illyria. Now you know why your Brain isdisabled.
@GoN95100 i said it to you last time that Alexander can't be Illyrian because Illyrians cames probaply from Aizerbaijan. So dont talk about things that you don't know. And FYROmians are fron Bulgaria.
The today know Albania hasn't any connection with Illyria because The first Illyrian king was lllyrios, he made Illyria and the funny aist he has a greek name. I think Illyria was GREEK and when the turks come they made them muslems and then the Illyrians said we are Albaniens:
Alexander's Father was Macedonian Greek, his mother was Epirite Greek, both of these lands are still in Greece, their people say they are Macedonian Greeks, Alexander said he was Greek, as did everyone else of that time, so wtf?
@GoN95100 AHA! and in a few years you will say he was from China. At first Albanians didn't know what they are. Macedonia is Greek because they spoken and and written in ancient greek language Not Illyrian. So tell my why Alexander wrote, spoke and whorshiped greek Gods, the 12 Gods of ancient Greece by the way.Mhhhh no I wait of your answer. Alexander and his Mother was illyrian hahahahahaha XD.
South Slavic tribes settled in the territory of the present-day Republic of Macedonia in the 6th century. The Slavic settlements were referred to by Byzantine Greek historians as "Sklavines".
@GoN95100 .Hello dear barbarian, well i read your comment, so.... can you prove your saying? Prove it or you ll be a chicken :)... i wait for your proves :)
@anatoli00716 , you are welcome, thank you too. i am glad that i made you fell nice :) MACEDONIOA IS HELLAS, FYROM IS DARNADIA AND PAEONIA, THEY ARE SLAVS!
@anatoli00716 you are welcome, thank you too. i am glad that i made you fell nice :) MACEDONIOA IS HELLAS, FYROM IS DARNADIA AND PAEONIA, THEY ARE SLAVS!
Alexander to the dead ATHENIANS after the battle of Chaeronia:
" Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER NATIONS and BROTHER PEOPLE, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since WE ARE UNITED BY the SAME LANGUAGE, the SAME BLOOD... "
@IllyriansBlood yeah he doesn't use the word greek but the word ελληνας who simply in english translated greek. if we are turks then you are turks too, turks ruled albania and fyrom more years,LOL. and something else, in reallity turks have greek dna and not we turkish, all the yennisars in turkish army were greeks.
also the native people there were greeks. give me one turk with mongolic eyes today........
@IllyriansBlood i hope the speech of alexander clean up your gypsy mind and stop the bullshits. all we know that you are sheeptars come from azerbaizan.
albani gypsies who have not connection with the illirians. and something more, illirians were not greeks(hellenes), they were barbarians gypsies ruled from greeks.all great cities in illiria were greek like apollonia,all scripts and theaters too.illirian gypsies ruled from greek colonies
Ok lemmi give you the real history of Alexander the great. He was illyrian and his mother was illyrian born in greece and his dad was macidonian which was part of the illyrian tribe. ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS ILLYRIAN. ILYYRIANS ARE ALBANIANS< AND CROATIANS. the old Macedonia is extinct, todays macedonia is whole other macedonia.
@AlbanianWardog please stop write albanian bullshits and open a real historical book. alexander's mother was greek epirotan and his father greek macedonian.
he was 100% greek and he admit it so many times. also albanians are not illirians, illirians was a tribe who dissapeared many years ago.albanians came from asia with the turks and we all know that. you become suddenly illirians like skopians become macedonians when before 30 years was yugoslavians.
@AlbanianWardog Olympias was from Epirus, not Illyria. Albania was transplanted to the Balkans by the Ottomans. In fact, Albanians were living by the Caspian during the time of Alexander, and actually made part of King Darius III's cavalry force at the Battle of Gaugamela.
Very nice video!!Alexander the Great was a Greek and a Macedonian!!The ancient and modern historians say clearly 100% that he was the greatest Greek in ancient times!!
@ghanafriend you thing ha? ok now, come and get our HELLENIC NAME MACEDONIA gypsy, why you waiting? yoy scare pussy? buhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha MONKEYDONKEYANS GYPSIES.
@Georgios763 you know that your country was founded by german otto I. in 1823 i think? with a lot of german fellas? and what they saw was everything but not hellenic.
What an argument. So Greeks germinated in 1823. And did Gemans know which was really the Hellenic blood ? Were they biologists or geneticists or something ?
For all tribes of Balkans, Greeks were always Greeks. Timeless.
And where was the so called Macedonian ethnos at that period really ?
Oh, i forgot, they were Bulgarians at that time.
I guess you know that Gruevski's ancestry is Greek btw.
@Georgios763 they could call the difference between hellenic and people from the near east. comeon macedonians are bulgarians and greeks are turks who think they are italians. you have to be stupid if you think there is one pedigree culture in the 21st century haha. i have a greek friend last name aptoula or something haha sounds very greek haha
I have an idea! Once we all post videos saying "I am macedonian!" lets do it! We are all macedonians! so... lets make a new country called macedonia and revive the ancient macedonia! One unique new and trully united country with Greek as official language . Just like then! And then history will be proud of us!
fares57 1 month ago
thank you to all the greek heros who saved western culture at so many great battles eg: marathon,thermopylae,plataea,macale and of course the great alexander and his historic victory over the persians at gaugamela and on into india.Alexander,men like him just dont exist anymore.A giant among men
tony671 5 months ago
ΑΡΧΕΛΑΟΣ (ΑRCHELAUS) ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ (PHILIPPE) ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ (ALEXANDER) ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ (PERDICCAS) ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ (PARMENION) ΚΡΑΤΕΡΟΣ (KRATEROS) ΒΟΥΚΕΦΑΛΑΣ (BUCEPHALUS) = MAKEDONIC NAMES.
ΑΠΟΛΛΩΝΙΑ (APOLLONIA-region of ANCIENT MAKEDONIA) ΠΕΛΛΑ (CAPITAL OF ANCIENT MAKEDONIA) ΒΕΡΓΙΝΑ (VERGINA-the first CAPITAL of ANCIENT MAKEDONIA) = MAKEDONIC CITY NAMES.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US HOW THE FUCK YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU COME FROM ANCIENT MAKEDONIANS,WHEN YOUR SURNAMES ARE PETROVSKI,PERIC,GRUEFSKI,GETCHEVSKY???
FYROMINJA 5 months ago
MY greek friend i love u...And thank u for enlighting me.....after our many text and hours of reserch...Im am proud too say that I AM with u on this one...ur debate has made be smarter thank u for that...Dont go and rub it in though...im a simple american and god nows we are not smart as our euopean conterparts...I belive that macedion did consider themselves greek...although they were the greeks from the country..present day macedion is not the acient macedion....God bless u sir
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls so you are nto a Slav, interesting, God bless you too!
socratis904 5 months ago
@winningtrolls American old movie, historically is more accuarate than the one of Spielbergs!, learn history and have fun! /watch?v=Y1l3GIDVqpg&feature=uploademail
socratis904 5 months ago
@winningtrolls Present day makedonians are still in Greece.
I am one of them.
So there cannot be someone slav that says he is macedonian when macedonia is still a place in Greece and people there are macedonians.
μακεδονια = ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
What does it mean to be greek....is it were u born...is it what gods u belive in...is it ur race and religion.....if we can awnser these questions maybe we can open our hearts to the true awsner of alexander...I have a hebrew name....I worship a hebrew god....I follow a goverment that emuliates greek and roman laws....i spread english everywhere i go....but im no hebrew and im defentily not an englishmen...and i highly doubt that rome or greece would claim me....
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls It means having hellinic soul!!! I think that says it all!!
jimakisspd 5 months ago
@winningtrolls
Tell me exactly what you are and i give you the explaine for your question!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
@winningtrolls you cannot compaire different things.
You cannot compaire ancient word with today.
History is written and cannot be changed.
ancient script : Thank Gods i a proud i was born GREEK. ( ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Ο ΜΕΓΑΣ )
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
Dont be botherd my greek friend u should give me your email address or facebook so me and u may debate this as proper gentlemen...I was kidding ur video is very interesting but im just not sold my greek friend...
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls a proper gentleman should be proper gentleman from the start, serious and powerfull, but you were nto and you are not,your invitation is interesting, but i will not accept it, o nthe other had i ask you if you like to go to my chanel page and wach every video that is about the Macedonian issue and comment ACCORDING the video, if you , like proper gentlemans,There you can say your opinion about history. no you have nt sold anyhting, your a victim of propaganda and of bad people!
socratis904 5 months ago
I love u my Greek friend Maybe i got nasty because iam indeed a smart man...and u offended me...But know its all so clear to me...UR Papa told u bedtime stories about alexander...He told u what a greek hero he was and u grew up believing it...TO Ur Horror when u grew up U learned that he was NO greek but actaul macidon...A kingdom too the north of greece...Listin my friend dont cry....dont cry...Iam here for u..
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls .smartness in the Slavic world is soemthing different than in the rest of the world, i might had offented you, or it looked like that, but it was just a replay in your offenicive tonogue. My papa dear barbarian is Plutarch, Arrian, Herodotys, Thukididis, Diodorus od Cisely,Q. Curtius Rufus, Clisthenes,Strabo, Hesiod, Homer, ect.as archaeology, name one papa if you have :)
socratis904 5 months ago
@socratis904 Yes indeed my greek friend...first let me say im no slav...Infact i get i kick everytime u say it...I dont no why....The truth is that my granfather killed slavs in ww2...SS nazi he was but dont worry im not proud of that fact...and im pretty sure on his death bed he said i love my furuher...thats what my mon said she hated the pric and almost divorced daddy because of it...
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls and think before you go to bed tonight that when i was in your country,in the ancient Paeonia+Dardania that only has about 11% of the ancient Macedonia i could read all the ancient "Macedonian" inscriptions as your politician and archaeologist presents as ithey are presented in your tv chanells, and understaood them in most, when my company, your country man could only read some letters,and some of the words but in the wrong tone,wondering what do they mean, many Greek names too!
socratis904 5 months ago
.What
winningtrolls 5 months ago
But look just sow u know that im not a real asshole i will read these books and get back too u.....
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls I dont know if you are an asshole or not, and i do not care, but you showed me once again that you are a malakas, Greek word, it means soft, stupid, nayve, easy going persson,. you bothered me all those days, you spoke dirty to me, arguing at the same time for historical facts about Macedonian identity,without haveing any knowledge of history something that you admit now, interesting, well read history, i hope this will lighten your life as it has mine!
socratis904 5 months ago
@socratis904 So my greek friend....im done so more reading and research ...and im still not convinced of ur theory.....I know whats happening here kind sir...UR granpapa...or PAPA told u bedtimes storys of alexander the great...Told u what a Greek hero he was...u read all the books back and front.....U idealize him as aFamily hero....This youtube page is in honnor of ur Papa...PAPA greek...BUT To your horror and Shame u discoverd in fact he is not greek he is macedion....GO TO COMMENTS..
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@socratis904 So my greek friend....im done so more reading and research ...and im still not convinced of ur theory.....I know whats happening here kind sir...UR granpapa...or PAPA told u bedtimes storys of alexander the great...Told u what a Greek hero he was...u read all the books back and front.....U idealize him as aFamily hero....This youtube page is in honnor of ur Papa...PAPA greek...BUT To your horror and Shame u discoverd in fact he is not greek he is macedion....
winningtrolls 5 months ago
Come on man.....ur losing my point my brother.... were the macedions greek like .....hell ya....did they speak greek fuck right.....did they want to imulate the greeks .....yes......but they were not greeks in the proper sense....if they were greek then why did greece ally themselves with the romans to throw of the macedion yoke....come on man.....do sum soul serchin cousins aint brothers...u now this homie....
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls because if onion had brain then you ll had brain too!
socratis904 5 months ago
Dude i just watch the video again it it sucks.....ur tryin to say that alexander was greek because there was greek culture in macedion...u weirdo....get ur facts strait buddy ur making a far reach nerd....I have a hebrew name dont make me jewish bitch....u suck
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls . look at that video again and tell me, do you see some pictures of books? well those books are the prototypes, that tell the story of Alexander of Macedonia,there are also presentations of texts of writtrs like Hesiod and Herodotus (THE FATHER OF HISTORY) ect.In history Macedonia and the Macedonians are presented as Greeks, except the words of one that this one is the orator Demosthenes, If you want to argue with history, find a right way to do it and state your claim got it ?
socratis904 5 months ago
@socratis904 OK my friend lets just look at this logicaly.......Greeks did not take other greeks as slaves......would u agree.........the only greeks whom broke this rule was the spartans who used war as the excuse to enslave the hellot greeks.....now think my history friend why was there macedoin slave all over athens.....come on man the athenians didnt consider the macedoins greeks and here u are claimin them as greeks....macedion empire Albania,bulgaria,turkey,macediona...now greek dude..
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls, your knowlege in history is very poor, yout way of thinking if not logical, and this is happening because you are a Slav, and 2nt your race past comiunism. you were on the other site so you cant know and thing west way yet. i will help you. for the slavery thing you are wrong, you also must read about after the batter in Granikos river, what had happened with the Greek misionaries that had joined the Persians, Arrian and Plutarch,HISTORY.i name history, i state my claim, u dont!
socratis904 5 months ago
dude listin i just went to sum other youtube video and sum old couple answerd are fight......for 30,000 grand give or take i dont rember this question was possed to them..." which nationality is alexander the great" and they like u said GREEK........will my friend they did not get the money....the correct anwser is macedionan said this Game show host....but hay its just a game show so im not to exited....
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls you are not exited but you mention it,mmm interesting! well learn that after few days this chanel that the game was taken place the asked for apologies from Greece, not from FYROM!
socratis904 5 months ago
What a punk........
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls . i am not getting in to your level so i dont speak dirty to you, i only call you barbarian because as a Slav that you are you are a barbarian,as you are named by the greeks for 1500 years now. and also a barbarian you are as an uneducated human, with a brain full of shit and a heart poisoned by the propaganda and your low brain. and as Plutarch wrote 2000 years ago. Alexander made it, His philosophy,what ever good Greek to be and what ever bad full of hate to be barbaric!
socratis904 5 months ago
IM schooling u on ur on video how sad are u....ur proubly crying ur eyes out......ur saying why does nobody believe alexander is greek.....cause hes not retard....ur a fool who wants to start drama.....u better read up on macedion punk.....What a loser u are trying to rewrite history hahahahah.....such a fool
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls you take dated drugs barbarian?
socratis904 5 months ago
The greeks are claimindg macedonia Only because of alexander the great.......THe spartans and there allies attacked macedion while alexander was conquering the world.....And now u want to take credit.....After alexander burnt thebes to the ground Athens Gave alexander little to No help read ur history virgin nerd.....ur a loser kind sir to put up this video....Alexander was MACedonian......NOT GREEK PUNK
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls This history that is presented in this video presentation as in my other videos my sweet barbarian is the Greek history that you suggest me to read, It is also the ONLY HISTORY,, something that in your pathetic country does nt exist. And dont tell me that in your coutry you have publications of Plutarch and Arrian about the history of Alexander because you do not have them. You just have some books that have texts of comments on their writtings, my sweet little barbarian.
socratis904 5 months ago
the greeks thought of macodenians as barbarians, the macedonians were like canadains to the united states.One could make the argument that alexander is greek but one could also make the argument that canadians are americans
winningtrolls 7 months ago
the greeks thought of macodenians as barbarians, the macedonians were like canadains to the united states.One could make the argument that alexander is greek but one could also make the arfument that canadians are americans
winningtrolls 7 months ago
@winningtrolls ,mmm from where do you know all that? i mean that the Greeks thought the Macedonians as barbarians? do you know ?
socratis904 7 months ago
@socratis904 An athienan poet who hated phillip raled against the macedonians as barbarians..he said " and then theres the land to the north macedonia were u cant even get a good slave"....Sum scholars refer to this as meaning the macedonians were a wild buch...futher more there strong evedince that the macedonians were more aryan in facial futures a few acient writers say sow...phillip was the first macedoian king to take education seriously making sure his son had all the finest tutors..
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls .A poet? No poet ever said that, i suppose you mean Demosthenes and he was orator.a politician, so think a little and then read history, and then think again, i suggest you to read history a lot and a good history. so to learn about the history of Macedonia as the story about Demosthenes!
socratis904 5 months ago
@socratis904 So then u no what im talking about....then kind sir......its all true u now it are u in fact macedion is that why ur so offended....i mean this is ur forum u no all right.......THe macodians too the north were a barbaric like peoples so said every body in anquity .....so why are offend.......Are u arguing the point that the macedions were indeed more ayran the there greek conter parts......is what im saying wrong or ARE U A LOSER at life.....U now im right u Virgin Nerd ...hahah
winningtrolls 5 months ago
@winningtrolls .except that its little hard to understand that because of yuor bad English i will suggest to you except Demosthenes there was Isokrates and Eschenes, Athenians too, orators too and politicians too my sweet little uneducated Slav barbarian!
socratis904 5 months ago
HELLENEN beweist uns alle MAKEDONIA , seit wann Ihr GRIECHEN (also mit hellenischer Herkunft), sesshaft in das eroberte Makedonien von den HELLENEN , seit. Beweist uns das über mehrere Generationen hinweg, nicht mit Denkmähler oder sonstige Propaganda, mit beglaubigte Urkunden über mehrere Generationen.
Ihr Griechen habt nichts aber absolut nichts mit den MAKEDONIER gemeinsamm. Ihr klaut unsere Kultur , und alle Makedonischen Besitztümer.
Devoj4E 7 months ago
Such a thing like "hellenism" did not even exist.. poor you terrorist liars.
some day the world will recognize this and your lies will be revealed :)
Macedonia is Macedonian and it will remain so forever :D
good bye former macedonian republic of greece ^^
MKDNebo 10 months ago
@MKDNebo can you prove your saying barbarian ? or you ll stay in words?
socratis904 10 months ago
@socratis904 barbarian? iam not harming your people with genocide! So who is the barbarian now, gypsy?! ..You should better ask Merkel for another financial injection!
how about going to the library and reading some plutarchian texts? he´s the one who wrote that there´s some big differences between the macedonian people and the greek. if that doesnt convince you, take a look at the Holy Bible where St. Paul "[...] went to Macedonia and after that to Greece where he stayed for three months." NP
MKDNebo 10 months ago
@MKDNebo if you had read Plutarch you d know why you are named barbarian by me. as for the genocide, well unfortunatelly it was nt complite, After all the bad things you Bulgarians did and thats why i acuse Basil 2nt, because he just took the eyes of some of your ancestors and the other let them live, when he should cut their balls or kill them so Balkans to stay in piece for ever,
socratis904 10 months ago
@socratis904 it´s all the time the same ridiculous bullshit with you stupid racists. did you read what you have written there? it´s pretty clear to see that your existence is a shame! you are such a terrorist omfg you should be sentenced to death -.- and all your greek-bulgaro-serbian propaganda is a contradiction in itself. you won't wipe out the macedonian existence. EVEN IF WE WOULD ASSUME THAT MACEDONIA HAD GREEK-SOURCES (WHICH IS NOT TRUE AT ALL) then you would not kill "your" people -.-
MKDNebo 10 months ago
@MKDNebo we will see who will die first, and i forgot to tell you that no matter if the Greeks have Ethiopian roots this will not make you Macedonian :) you did nt answered to me about Plutarch, you mention him first, you mention the ancient Greek writters,so why when i talk about this and ask you to tell me details about you do not replay my sweet little barbarian ? why you speak with insults when if you are right and have those that can prove the truth, you do not present to me the facts?
socratis904 10 months ago
@socratis904 you know what? basically i dont owe you answers because it wont change your mind anyway. you're just an egoistic terrorist and i don't care what YOU think of me :) I'm one of Alexander's descendants and that's about it, sweetie. No, don't think "haaha he din't bring facts cause he doen't know..", because as I told you : It wouldnt even change a thing if I'd bring them.. as they say "the cleverer give in", you see what Iam.."the cleverer" :) this discussion is useless. dont await me
MKDNebo 10 months ago
@MKDNebo i wish you were clever, i wish you could give me something, but you do not and do you know why? because you are a stupid human, that you as your grand parents felt on the propaganda of some politicians.
socratis904 10 months ago
@MKDNebo as for Merkel well look first for what Greece had given to your country, i had delivered financial help with my hands but you do now that a? gypsie? well you can come and meet me and see if i am gypsie :) you are invited, as for history that you mention, we can meet in peace if you like, and you ll bring your books and i will have mine and see what is going on, do you agree barbarian or i should say something worst, Slavbulgar victim of propaganda and political -economical victim....
socratis904 10 months ago
@socratis904 It is true that greece influences macedonia´s economy because of the connection to the ocean via solun[thessalonikikiki] (which you took from us by mistake in 1913)!
that youll bring your faked-greek-books is not hard to predict :) maybe well try with some neutral sources like german or british ones? some day the sun will shine upon your terrorist-faces and burn you.. slavbulgarian as a insult is pretty funny because its not true - the greek are descendants of ethiopian tribes btw
MKDNebo 10 months ago
@MKDNebo Not only influence but gave money and medical help with medical equitment too. the slav bulgarian if its insults you then you must change the language that you speak or ask the other slav bulgarians to change their language, and if you like yes bring your German and British book. welcome :) as for the name Solun, ha! i can take the chalenge if you like but first you must tell me what it need to prove the real name and then present the facts!
socratis904 10 months ago
1000's FACTS MACEDONIA IS GREECE AGAINST ...ONE FYROM LIE.
trustmeU2needhelp 11 months ago
@GoN95100 I can't I give my soons greek names because we had the brain to make names you had to steel greeknames and transform them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Albanians they stupids and gayst people on the world. MAKEDONIA IS GREEK. albanian xD
seitaridisgeorg 1 year ago
@GoN95100 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA The Albanian people are so stupid they think they could have a soooo smart man like Alexander. You have a funny imaginasion.
seitaridisgeorg 1 year ago
Alexander is Albanien name, ore Slaw name, ore Chinese name??????????
HA!-HA!-HA!-HA!!!
You are realy more stupid as shit!!!!!!!!
uneducated people!
tzzzzt-tzzzt-tzzt
psolarasxxl 1 year ago
@GoN95100 Hahahahahaha Alexander The Great was Illyro- Albanian xD xD xD xD And why all Makedonian found are in greek letters and greek sculptures and don't tell me he was philhellen because if he was only philhellen it couldn't be the whole other people of him.
By the way Illyria was made by Illyrios and funny is that he has a GREEK name. Illyria was GREEK. The Greeks at the ancient time send there disabled children to Illyria. Now you know why your Brain isdisabled.
seitaridisgeorg 1 year ago
@GoN95100 i said it to you last time that Alexander can't be Illyrian because Illyrians cames probaply from Aizerbaijan. So dont talk about things that you don't know. And FYROmians are fron Bulgaria.
The today know Albania hasn't any connection with Illyria because The first Illyrian king was lllyrios, he made Illyria and the funny aist he has a greek name. I think Illyria was GREEK and when the turks come they made them muslems and then the Illyrians said we are Albaniens:
seitaridisgeorg 1 year ago
Alexander's Father was Macedonian Greek, his mother was Epirite Greek, both of these lands are still in Greece, their people say they are Macedonian Greeks, Alexander said he was Greek, as did everyone else of that time, so wtf?
TheFaceofWisdom 1 year ago
@GoN95100 AHA! and in a few years you will say he was from China. At first Albanians didn't know what they are. Macedonia is Greek because they spoken and and written in ancient greek language Not Illyrian. So tell my why Alexander wrote, spoke and whorshiped greek Gods, the 12 Gods of ancient Greece by the way.Mhhhh no I wait of your answer. Alexander and his Mother was illyrian hahahahahaha XD.
seitaridisgeorg 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Lets see an official source
Wikipedia:
South Slavic tribes settled in the territory of the present-day Republic of Macedonia in the 6th century. The Slavic settlements were referred to by Byzantine Greek historians as "Sklavines".
Really, go get your own history fucking slavs
mounakiasmikros 1 year ago
ALEXANDER THE GREAT IS GREEK AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT HATES slavs
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@GoN95100 .Hello dear barbarian, well i read your comment, so.... can you prove your saying? Prove it or you ll be a chicken :)... i wait for your proves :)
socratis904 1 year ago
At 0:06, that's actually Mithradates VI the Great, not Alexander.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
Na se kala.
anatoli00716 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
this video will clear up all the historical issues
watch?v=EC937xQPKNM
CornFedArmen 1 year ago
Socratis904...Thanks for the humor. I love it.
LA LA LA LA LAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA!
anatoli00716 1 year ago
@anatoli00716 , you are welcome, thank you too. i am glad that i made you fell nice :) MACEDONIOA IS HELLAS, FYROM IS DARNADIA AND PAEONIA, THEY ARE SLAVS!
socratis904 1 year ago
@anatoli00716 you are welcome, thank you too. i am glad that i made you fell nice :) MACEDONIOA IS HELLAS, FYROM IS DARNADIA AND PAEONIA, THEY ARE SLAVS!
socratis904 1 year ago
@labtepelene1
i dont understund your language.i say again MAKEDONIA IS GREEK FROM 10000 YEARS AGO.YOU ARE FYROM AND SLAVES OF AMERICAN.
THEOD7 1 year ago
NUK JU ECIN ME RRENAT O GABEL GREQIE
labtepelene1 1 year ago
makedonian is only GREEK FOR 10000 YEARS AGO
THEOD7 1 year ago
@THEOD7 SHKO LEXO HISTORINE TRAP
labtepelene1 1 year ago
@THEOD7 KETO JAN RRENA TE VJETRA QE S'PIN MA UJ. VETEM JU GREKO-BIZANTINET I BESONI DERI DIKU
labtepelene1 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
let's ask Alexander himself...
Alexander to the dead ATHENIANS after the battle of Chaeronia:
" Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER NATIONS and BROTHER PEOPLE, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since WE ARE UNITED BY the SAME LANGUAGE, the SAME BLOOD... "
(Curtius Rufus)
hoplitespao 1 year ago
@IllyriansBlood yeah he doesn't use the word greek but the word ελληνας who simply in english translated greek. if we are turks then you are turks too, turks ruled albania and fyrom more years,LOL. and something else, in reallity turks have greek dna and not we turkish, all the yennisars in turkish army were greeks.
also the native people there were greeks. give me one turk with mongolic eyes today........
YUNAN87 1 year ago
@IllyriansBlood i hope the speech of alexander clean up your gypsy mind and stop the bullshits. all we know that you are sheeptars come from azerbaizan.
albani gypsies who have not connection with the illirians. and something more, illirians were not greeks(hellenes), they were barbarians gypsies ruled from greeks.all great cities in illiria were greek like apollonia,all scripts and theaters too.illirian gypsies ruled from greek colonies
YUNAN87 1 year ago
@IllyriansBlood ALEXANDER THE GREAT QUOTES:
"For As Hellenes (Greeks) we should
not be slaves to barbarians."
Callisthenes of Olynthus 1.15.1-4>
"They will be fighting for pay... we, on the contrary,
shall fight for GREECE, and our hearts will be in it."(Addressing his troops prior to the Battle of Issus,
as quoted in "Anabasis Alexandri" by Roman historian Arrian, Book II, 7)
YUNAN87 1 year ago
whats the name of this song
kingzuniga 2 years ago
tromero video ,bravo sou
makedonomachos 2 years ago
THE BEST MONKEYDONIAN ANIMATION
watch now -> watch?v=NMHk0h2KG3Y
macedonianimation 2 years ago
Ok lemmi give you the real history of Alexander the great. He was illyrian and his mother was illyrian born in greece and his dad was macidonian which was part of the illyrian tribe. ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS ILLYRIAN. ILYYRIANS ARE ALBANIANS< AND CROATIANS. the old Macedonia is extinct, todays macedonia is whole other macedonia.
AlbanianWardog 2 years ago
bla bla bla bla bla,,, and you are an Albanian, how nice.
socratis904 2 years ago
@AlbanianWardog please stop write albanian bullshits and open a real historical book. alexander's mother was greek epirotan and his father greek macedonian.
he was 100% greek and he admit it so many times. also albanians are not illirians, illirians was a tribe who dissapeared many years ago.albanians came from asia with the turks and we all know that. you become suddenly illirians like skopians become macedonians when before 30 years was yugoslavians.
idiot people
YUNAN87 1 year ago
@AlbanianWardog Olympias was from Epirus, not Illyria. Albania was transplanted to the Balkans by the Ottomans. In fact, Albanians were living by the Caspian during the time of Alexander, and actually made part of King Darius III's cavalry force at the Battle of Gaugamela.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
5 * * * * *
akisioannina 2 years ago
Very nice video!!Alexander the Great was a Greek and a Macedonian!!The ancient and modern historians say clearly 100% that he was the greatest Greek in ancient times!!
alevas29 2 years ago 3
Well Done,Here We Stand Greeks To Show The ONLY Truth,Alexader Was,Is And Will Always Be Greek,As Does Macedonia!!!
NikostheGreeek 2 years ago 6
polu kalo video kai polu kalh mousikh epilogh..5 *****
purpledeadfairy 2 years ago 9
Alexander the Great Greek.
Alexander was Hellen and Macedonia is HELLENIC.
maikmetalwarrior 2 years ago 23
@maikmetalwarrior hellenic??? not even todays greeks are hellenic haha they dont exist anymore...
ghanafriend 10 months ago
@ghanafriend you thing ha? ok now, come and get our HELLENIC NAME MACEDONIA gypsy, why you waiting? yoy scare pussy? buhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha MONKEYDONKEYANS GYPSIES.
maikmetalwarrior 10 months ago
@maikmetalwarrior and that ladies and gentlemen is a typical greek reaction when the truth is said.
ghanafriend 10 months ago
@ghanafriend hahaha we laugh now Monkeydonian gypsy :)))
maikmetalwarrior 10 months ago
@ghanafriend
So the Hellenic doesn't exist but the Macedonian does exist, right ?
Anything else that could enlighten the Greek or Hellenic ''myth'' ?
Georgios763 7 months ago
@Georgios763 you know that your country was founded by german otto I. in 1823 i think? with a lot of german fellas? and what they saw was everything but not hellenic.
ghanafriend 7 months ago
@ghanafriend
What an argument. So Greeks germinated in 1823. And did Gemans know which was really the Hellenic blood ? Were they biologists or geneticists or something ?
For all tribes of Balkans, Greeks were always Greeks. Timeless.
And where was the so called Macedonian ethnos at that period really ?
Oh, i forgot, they were Bulgarians at that time.
I guess you know that Gruevski's ancestry is Greek btw.
Georgios763 7 months ago
@Georgios763 they could call the difference between hellenic and people from the near east. comeon macedonians are bulgarians and greeks are turks who think they are italians. you have to be stupid if you think there is one pedigree culture in the 21st century haha. i have a greek friend last name aptoula or something haha sounds very greek haha
ghanafriend 7 months ago
@ghanafriend
While your Bulgarian names sound very Macedonian.
Lolovski.
You are so dumbs that you put Alexander's statue right next to Czar's Samuel.
You are so frustrated that you call Solun instead of Thessaloniki.
You are so inhibited that you deny your Bulgarian ancestry which is so close to Turks.
Georgios763 7 months ago
@Georgios763 you dont get it... we are not the ones who claim to be pedigree... -.- but what do i expect from you?
ghanafriend 5 months ago
@ghanafriend
Don't expect ANYTHING from me ;)
This is what you must realize.
Georgios763 5 months ago