Time to catch up with the latest technology and take this outdated video down buddy. The Volt is here, the Volt is selling, and the Volt is amazing one person after the other. Hence why it's Motor Trend's car of the year. Some hoax lol
@DanielJaegerFilms Just over 100 a month is not considered good sales. It isn't even close to what people were expecting and as soon as gas is cheap again it will die an ugly death in a sea of red ink and taxpayer dollars.
The Volt is not a good car. It fails as an electric car (only 35 mile range) and it fails as a gas-powered stinker (265 miles). I would much prefer the Tesla Model S because it is ALL ELECTRIC. I don't want to ever stop at a gas station again. With a 300 mile range, five seats, and tons of cargo space, it is the most practical car I can think of. At $77,000 for the 300 mile range Model S signature edition, this is still not a cheap car. Then again, it performs like a Maserati or an Aston Martin.
@TecnamTwin Just did over 250 miles on battery only in my first week of owning the Volt, and others have gone well over 1000 miles with LESS than one gallon of gas, that sounds like the measuring stick of an electric car, hardly a fail. I guess when Chevy makes all electric car that goes 300 miles on one charge than they to can charge over 60 grand for it. But for now my budget was in the 43 range. So the Volt fits perfect and I spend the same on elect as I would the tesla S.
Interesting veiwpoint. Problem is, GM already announced more cars using this same powertrain. I understand skepticism, but this makes little sense. Why would they be planning additional cars in the next three years if this is something they are going to pull? Also, for many of us, 100 miles is not going to cut it. I live in CT - New England. That "100 mile range" in the winter is only 50 miles - does not work for me or anyone. Good luck selling that here, the Volt is a real option for us.
@acavideo The real question is, how many Chevy Volts will be for sale? If Chevy wanted to, they could build many thousands of these vehicles, and gin up interest in buying them. What I hear is, they might have something like 10,000 available in 2011. Not exactly a deluge of vehicles.
Hmmm. The company that crushed all the EV-1s, then went bankrupt to escape paying all those retirement accounts, then is bailed out by taxpayers, is now going to save the day on plugin hybrids. I wonder if they have a Brooklyn Bridge they'll sell us? I wonder if they keep all their profits in offshore accounts, to avoid paying US taxes?
What about the FCX? (forget about the pollution that takes to make) A Range Rover over its lifetime doesn't produce more pollution...manufacturing and running it.
Also u want to get hit in an EV1...TESLA? Do any of them run for more than 10 miles without problems or charging issues? The Leaf? Look at that piece of shit! The key was a car that was not changed in feel and exterior. Not a fan of big business crushing th little guy...but if near bankruptcy is the kick in the ass they need...we will pay for them to stay in business (oh that's right) Well over a millioon jobs saved and little jimmy and lisa go to school.Took 40 years for a kick in the ass
Those cars were impractical and looked like Hell! The EV1 ....seriously...You want to drive that? What if you have to go more than 100 miles.....you going to stop for 12 hours or more? If you go 30 miles a day -no gas is needed. I think you ow them an apology. It needs a car that the normal fat ass lazy USA citizen can drive-with a eww look at what I got factor.They don't mention the pollution that it takes to make this electric extended range, And since when is elect, free and 0 pollution?
@sawink Yeah, and as Al Capp used to say in the comics: "What's good for General Bullmoose is good for the country." Of course, because of nutsy decisions like these, GM had to be bailed out by, oh yes, the taxpayers. And the only way they could go forward at all was to dump all their responsibilities to GM retirees.
@bodryn Oh I know Lil Abner but, I am not nearly that old. (just educated). I was featured in Colliars magazine ....the Star Snoop section. Excellent! It's all going according to plan. All this money...I would trade it all....for a little more!
@sawink Well, I just couldn't help but react - Al Capp used to be a household name. Everybody knew who he was, then you say isn't it Andy Capp, and I realize time has marched on and I'm getting more and more out of date. :-(
He doesn't get it. GM could easily get 100 miles of range with the Volt. They traded the weight of more batteries for the genset so that drivers could use existing infrastructure and not get stuck waiting for the recharge. The gas engine is there deliberately. If you drive < 40 miles a day you never need to put gas in it. But if you want to go 300 miles without refueling you can.
i thought whats interesting is a ihave a 1996 z28 camaro convertible with a 4speed auto and at 70 ph on a hgih way trip we have went close to 380/ 400 miles a tank at 70 /75 mph now i feel with 2/4 more gears 800 miles per tank is in line be interesting to develop a 8 spee auto matic you go to 70 mph in say 4rth or od and then push a button and youer in 5th and go to 6th 7th and 8th gear to where the cars only idling what im getting at is gearing is the ky to great milage not eletric cars
He speaks english, but manages to be completely obtuse about the Chevy Volt. I don't trust big industry any more than I trust big government, but with inarticulate incomprehensible ramblings, he does not convince anyone of anything other than his apparent need for heavy medication.
I don't think Chevy Volt is a "hoax" nor do I believe it is a green alternative. Those batteries have to be disposed off properly once they reach the end of their life cycle! The problematic part with electric cars is not their driving range, speed, or HP. Instead, it is the fact that they run on electricity and demand to be recharged. An all electric vehicle - increased demand of electric generating stations, increased cost of electricity, and higher demand of resources - petrol's comeback.
@Cr3ativity Petro's comeback?? w How about wind power?? Hydro electric?? Nuclear??? Even coal power plants pollute less than the hydrocarbons produced by vehicles....
@crazybry79 Coal power is going down the drain since the natural resource is limited and pollutes the most + releases high contents of mercury into the atmosphere. Nuclear power requires storage of depleted uranium which releases high contents of radiation. Wind power is costly and is only efficient in certain regions. Solar power remains expensive due to material cost but remains the best option available. Hydro power has the potential to disturb or destroy aquatic ecosystems. Fusion power....
News Flash: Just heard a news story about the Volt. It will be mechanically connected to the wheels. It is not a series hybrid like they lead us to believe, but a standard plug in parallel hybrid. I am waiting for the Ford Focus EV. It will be here 2012
While I can't verify your claim that Li-ion batteries have yet reach the 100k mile mark, remember that Li-ion batteries are a relatively young technology as compared to NiMH. Several companies have asserted the 10+ year claim in addition to GM, with LG claiming that their variant of Li-ion can last 40 years. Li-ion offers 3 to 7 higher energy density than NiMH, higher discharge efficiency, and has very similar charge cycle characteristics.
I know this is a old vid and you bring up some good points but the I think the volt is a reality. I think they have no choice, now that nissan has its leaf and others are in the pipeline for the near future. All auto manufactures could have a much better battery I agree but since GM screwed them selfs with the EV1 now have to pay the price.
@gabbogabbo So GM will come out with 10,000 VOLTS in 2011, and 40,000 in 2012. Is that a bandwagon? LOL. More like drips and drabs. Who would buy a 2 passenger VOLT when they could get a 7 passenger Tesla?
@bodryn Oh lol no its a four seater. Seven seats would be better or at least make it a 5 seater. The tesla is a great car for sure and with a possible range of something like 300 miles, that would be fantastic. It is alittle more expensive but its alot less then the roaster. If they keep the cost competitive and the parts prices down they could have a serious contender in the EV ring. The tesla and for that matter the leaf look better too :)
they had to destroy the EV1s because gas companys kept sewing GM and the american buyer wouldnt try to buy it. and have you seen the size of that battery thats pretty amazing what it gets,they will release another model. LITHIOM ION BATTERYS LAST LONGER AND ARE SAFER!
@ Liveoilfree... You are soooo right about the GM Volt being a hoax. I just read that they are thinking about making the next generation Volt with a rotary engine? WTF? They haven't even gotten the first generation Volt out yet and they are already working on a 2nd generation? What a bunch of liars!
@xobile187 What I know of rotary engines is that they don't get as good gas mileage. E.g., the RX7 - a rotary powered sports car. Simpler engine, maybe, but poorer gas mileage.
@pokey6733 on sale in "select markets" for 40,000 dollars. you gonna buy one? GM says it will take up to 18 months for the car to be "offered" nationwide.
@Lockemeister That's in extended range mode, and as they admitted, driven with a "lead foot", so that seems reasonable to me. So what exactly is your point?
Of course, it is easy for nay-sayers to only focus on the ICE mileage, and totally ignore the fact that one could drive the Volt for weeks without using any gas at all.
I would rather have the Leaf for daily commutes, since we can use my wife's car for long commutes. for those that only have one car, Volt makes more sense.
@pokey6733 The car was touted by GM to get 230 MPG. It would use only electric motors to drive the wheels. Wrong ob both counts. 32/36 is what it gets in extended range. GM lied about the car and therefore it's a hoax. are you able to do any critical thinking?
@Lockemeister They already backed off of the 230mpg claim long ago, which was based off of an early EPA calculation for measuring these types of vehicles.
What exactly did GM lie about? They said from the beginning that the Volt is an EREV, which is exactly what it is. They never touted it as an EV, ever. The electric motors do indeed always "drive the wheels". There is no fixed gear ratio between the engine and the drive wheels, that is fact.
@pokey6733 If you read the link I posted. Automotive experts say that GM lied about the Volt. It's not just "me". Wait 'till the car is out and lets see if people are happy with the 8 hr charge time to drive 25-50 Miles on pure battery before the 4 cyl engine kicks in for the extended range. Extended range means electric power generation to help charge the batteries. It also means 4 cylinder engine power to assist the electric motors at speeds above 70MPH. Lets see what MPG it "really " gets.
@Lockemeister Furthermore, in extended range mode, the ICE kicks in to feed power through the electric drive unit.
There were no lies. There were exclusions of certain details that could not be made public until GM got the patents, but no lies.
I am capable of critical thinking, which is why , as I already stated, I won't be buying a Volt, it just wouldn't make sense for me, the Leaf is a better fit. Oh, right, you only look at the information that supports your argument.
@pokey6733 I used to routinely get 39 and 40 mpg with my Datsun B210, back in the 1970's. A straight gasoline engine outdoes the Chevy Volt! Hah! Volt=HOAX.
Well let me tell YOU why the toyota product did not sell well... hopefully you will get this through your thick skull... TOYOTA SUCKS AT WHAT THEY DO. Toyota vehicles are cheaply made and are not as good at getting gas mileage as they claim to be. The solution BUY AMERICAN!
@StraightOuttaDC Nobody? I knew about it, everyone I have talked to knew about it. The general public just didn't care about or want electric cars back in the '90s.
GM has made MANY mistakes in the past few decades, but killing the EV1 was not one of them. Sure, it would have made them look "green", but it would have been a sales flop.
I know it may shock some of you to find this out, but the sole purpose of a corporation is to MAKE MONEY.
Do you have anything substantial to backup your claims other than "hear say" and coincidence of oil prices dropping the same time GM changes their front page ad? How is the marketing department doing its job trying to sell cars a HOAX? You sir need to go to school, learn a few things about how the engineering world works, and stay off wikipedia... and please, talk to your doctor about getting some valium for your SEVERE paranoia.
@jasonvan9 You, jason, need to learn a bit about the politics of corporate power and govt giveaways before you pass judgment. You might also ask yourself why there are so few car companies now when there were over a dozen back in the 1950's, giving people a real choice.
The goal of the volt is to get people to work and back on electricity. Lithium Ion batteries are much better at what they do than lead acid or NiMH. But they are new for auto use, and there are bugs to work out. The volt could have had a longer EV range but it would cost more. If it can get most people to work and back with a 40 mile range, why add more and make it more expensive? The generator is only there to eliminate range anxiety, which people still had with 100 mile EV-only cars.
I don't know but I have a Chevy Cobalt and I am mad I thought it took regular power steering !! but NOO it is all electric, my power steering has been out for awhile, and when I drive it something electric smells like it is burning.Their supposed to be doing a recall. but I am still waiting? I am very dissaponted in GM right now.
Clean Diesel exsist RIGHT NOW. Why won't the USA subsidize them like they do bullshit hybrid cars? A diesel will get 20-30% more mpg than an equivalent gas car...a change to diesels will buy us years and years of time while we figure out electric cars...so why aren't diesels being used to their full potential????
@lilpoindexter Uh, there is a problem running diesels in cold weather. In northern states, there are 2 types of diesel fuel. Also, people will use a de-gel additive to keep a diesel from stalling out. I know, I've been there. Also diesel mechanics are not so easy to come by.
lead batteries are bulkier, more expensive per life span and do not have the extensive life of l-ion. if you put 3 times the ion batteries in the volt you could get close to 120 miles on a charge, but that would drive the price even higher. Production costs of electric and hydrogen cars is the real problem not technology development.
The Traverse should be getting more than 30 per gallon highway. It's funny that GM and other automakers aren't making much mention of their city mileage because it would be shameful, probably 16 or 17 mpg. This is no better than the SUVs being replaced.
I still wished GM had been able to build a competent minivan because they're a lot more convenient with kids than a crossover would be. Larger door openings and lower floors for one thing, not to mention getting into the third seat...
@fixinggrace The Traverse is a 2.5 ton vehicle!!! That it get's over 20 MPG is amazing enough as it is. And it gets the best of all vehicles identical to it. Isn't the best good enough? Or are your requirements unrealistic?
@ scottwilkins It's rated at 24 mpg highway. So I'll give you that. Next time you want to argue, don't insinuate that someone's requirements are unrealistic. Mine are that it starts, runs, carries some cargo and doesn't cost a mint to drive. I've gotten close to 28 mpg with my Ford Windstar on the highway. The only thing I find amazing with the Traverse is the kitschy, overwrought grille and price tag. Please do not bother replying.
The traverse can't compare to the pilots reliability, resale, and cost of ownership. Whats the point of buying something that gets almost identical MPG? yet it doesn't meet all these expectations like the pilot has. This is like trying to compare the civic to the cobalt. Give me a break. The civic wins every time hands down.
lol, u must be talking for urself?? Did gas cars always give you more than 100 miles when first introduced?? Plus no one is saying REPLACE all GAS VEHICLES. What happened to competition in America. Guess the oil/gas and car companies have accomplished the goal of want vs needs and tons of misinformation.
Why don't you buy one of those $16K pickup trucks, put an electric motor in it, fill the bed with lead acid batteries and drive 100 miles from the nearest internet connection. That or educate yourself about what "successful" means when it comes to manufacturing an automobile. Building and maintaining a car for over $100K and leasing it for $300/month is not a success. And stop saying the Volt has a 40 mile range. It's total range is about 200 miles. It's range on electric only power is 40 miles.
When are we gonna stop worrying about money and profits. That y our country is where its at right now. Gas vehicles never used to travel as far as they do now as they did back then, so the argument about electric vehicles not going far is stupid. As if we are all gonna wake up tomorrow and all our gas vehicles are all banished to mars. WTF, if Microsoft can't be a monopoly! then why should the gas/car companies rule the way we travel. Nothing wrong with a little competition.
The EV1 cost near 100,000 to produce one unit. There are many factors why the electric car was postoned. It does suck that money screws over progress.
imagine Not having 2 buy gas (wheres my choice), no more oil changes every 4k miles, no more anti-freeze, and all those expensive different little parts (stupid O2 sensor, starter, and the numerous moving parts would have been a thing of the past. Try to get a inspection done on ur 2007 car that has check engine light due to gas cap and air in tank. frustration on all levels because dealers want ur money and Mechs ready 2 lie to u in order to get ur money
I know some people will have 10 reasons why they buy foreign but keep in mind that we need jobs. You may not be out of a job now but if we keep on the road we are on, you or someone you love or know will be jobless.
Yeah i second that, but whats wrong with having a different source of transportation other than all gas or hybrid vehicles. EV-1 was made in America and crushed by GM because they were in the pockets of the gas and oil companies and they don't want any competition in their monopolized market
Looks like GM is building the volt Hoax, I know a lot of people have a bug up their butts about the ev1. Big oil, government and GM are all at fault for that screw up, but we need to look forward and nurture American EV manufacturing.
haha...nothing like good old domestic cars that get poor gas mileage but they are american made! I'd say electric cars are weak sauce at best , if you want to be a boring plain jane blend in with everyone else and work in a cubicle than sure EV1 cars and of the like are for you.
Hey dumb ass, not because u work in a box everyone else has 2. No one is saying replace all gas vehicles, but instead make a market for for the electric vehicles in the Gas monopolized market. Look at the Tesla Roadster (all electric but expensive an i bet you it would smoke any gas operated vehicle you may own) If i could have an all electric vehicle that could take me to an from work i would be set, this would prob be true for 90% of our population or for people w/more than one vehicle.
well cars are becoming far more fuel efficient than they ever where. So in effect that should piss off oil companies even more unless they raise the prices from little demand. I wouldn't mind having a station next to my house that could produce a synthetic solution similar to gasoline but for far less to power my already gas sipping 4 cylinder car.
@bodryn Yeah! well i get 50+ MPG with my Yamaha MAxim! BOOH YEAH! BEAT THAT SUCKA! but you also have to remember though, Most modern cars have waaay more power, suspension, and interior quality compared to the ones being sold in the 70's.
well then I guess you don't know what kind of cars I have! btw nice reply I think you old man are the jerk here...I'll drive the all american cars cars and not electric junk.
this guy is an idiot. The basis for the volt is the fact that unlike the Prius, its a full electric vehicle run off of electric motors that can run up to 40 miles in which time the 4 cylinder motor kicks in ONLY to recharge the batteries, not run the vehicle. the 100mpg thing is based on the fact that the average person does not drive 40 miles to work every day, so acually, it would probably get better. Even on road trips, the generator only charges the batteries so it cuts off afterwards.
If they designed it so it was only driven off of the electric battery, it would be terribly inefficient. Every time energy changes forms (i.e. gas to electricity through a generator) it loses a significant amount of it's potential. If it was like that, the MPG would be much lower than that of a comparable gas-only car.
Those "Hybrid Trains" work the same way as current hybrid cars- energy is stored from regenerative braking and used later; there is no diesel→electric conversion except for when excess energy is used.
GM got rid of the EV1 because it cost way to much and was impractical. Lithium ion battires are the future. Also i just had a volt in my driveway and your trying to tell me it doesn't exsist?
I positively hate these GM electric car/JFK/Aliens/Flat Earth/Fake moon landing..etc conspiracy nut cases. Pay attention. the Volt failure videos are obviously a gear driven low power versions, all electric long range that didn't work right. One hundred miles is a non-starter, no ability to recharge within a suitable time frame, the EV1 an overweight two-seater, poor handling. The LA batteries taking up too much room & too heavy.
If the Volt-Hoax was real it would be out by now in fact last year they said (well is said on the news they MIGHT of got there facts wrong) it would be out around 2010 late 2009 and now I'm hearing 2011-2013
It was Saturn that confiscated our EV1, and it was GMAC which tried to charge us for "excess wear" on the EV1 that GM crushed. When they were told to document their claim, they violated FCRA and tried to (illegally) damage our credit.
GM really did conspire to make the EV1 disappear, they really f-ed people up with that trick. However, GM can't just pick up the EV1 bits and put em in the Volt. How long does it take to create a new ICE car? It takes years.......so compare that to the Volt. Its not much more.
I disagree with this there are going to be failures its part of science. If they get this battery dezigned perfect they will be put in history for ever. Why should they wait for someone elce to make this battery when they're allready half way there? Things like this are going to take time and money.
yep-hoax sure enough.electric companies cant provide electric capacity for everyone to recharge thier cars when they get home.government loses too much revenue in taxs.cars need less servicing so dealers and service agents wont get much business.
100 miles is plenty for the daily drive; only an illusion makes you think you need a car capable of driving to Alaska when you are only driving to work in Pacoima.
If and when NiMH packs fail, they could all be "reformed", as lead-acid batteries are reformed; ALL the metals needed for the new batteries are found in the OLD batteries, no new mining needed. 75% of our Ni comes from recycling now.
There already are large-format NiMH; the only thing stopping them is Chevron's control of the worldwide patent licensing rights, and their refusal (so far) to allow further production of large-format NiMH.
The VOLT-hoax requires 16 kWh of Lithium be purchased in order to yield only 8 kWh of useful energy. The RAV4-EV has up to 30 kWh and ALL of it is accessible; and it lasts for more than 100K miles, and ALL NICKEL IS RECYCLABLE.
EVERY successful EV started with lead-acid and then moved to advanced batteries when and if they became available. Since the VOLT-hoax only has 40 miles range, even lead would work; get it out now, stop fooling around, later upgrade to advanced batteries.
The next problem with Lithium is success. Right now, the cost of is about as low as it can get because of high volume of lap top batteries. But if it had to be recycled, the cost would rise alarmingly, since recycling Lithium is very difficult.
Let's be clear, EV folks would LOVE it if Lithium panned out, some day; now, the estimated cost of replacement Tesla batteries is $38,000 (after 50K miles). Not yet economically practical. But NiMH is practical, long-lasting, non-toxic and well-proven.
AS you know the pushback against EV technology will come from all sides, so we need it get behind any one that will reinvest in the technology that we all need.
"The problem with the theory of the Volt is that GM hasn't recognized past EV cars have been successful".
First, the Volt has nothing to do with past electric cars, and its not even an EV, its an EREV.
Second, the argument that the Volt is a hoax is not based on fact, and if one were to actually look at what's happening, every indication is that the car will be produced.
We should be commending GM for investing in this technology rather than blasting them for the past.
That's where you expose your ignorance. The VOLT-hoax is a 40-mile-range EV, just like our conversions, with a gas genset. This is something that's been done by EV drivers for decades. Nothing unusual, except that it gulls the gullible.
When did I say it hasn't been done before? It hasn't been mass produced though. If your conversions are so good and marketable, why didn't someone mass produce them? I agree that electric is great, but there are reasons beyond dishonesty and oil collusion why EVs have not been mass produced. Volts are rolling off the assembly line as I am typing, your Volt-hoax theory is the actual hoax.
You stated that GM is to be commended, and that the VOLT-hoax has "nothing to do with past electric car". Even GM doesn't say that. The VOLT-hoax is NOT rolling off ANY assembly lines; they still haven't solved the generator-battery interface problem, last I heard.
Flux, that's the whole reason I think GM's VOLT is a hoax. If they were serious, they would start with lead and NiMH, and later upgrade to Lithium when and if it's ever proven to work in an EV. So far, it's a hoax. No Lithium EV has gone more than 50K miles on the same battery pack, it doesn't recycle, and costs more.
Tesla uses lithium, it is recyclable and non-hazardous, and has been proven so far. Why does using advanced battery technology make you assume something is a hoax? That's just not logical. You have to have more evidence than that to convince people of your theory. Lithium Ion batteries have many advantages over the other options, that's why Tesla and GM are choosing that technology over the OLD types of batteries.
Tesla's batteries are only guaranteed for 50K miles, and may be prorated; while Lithium is non-toxic, it's not recylcable and is just discarded into the trash because it costs more to process old batteries than to mine Lithium ore.
If demand goes up, its possible that it could be economical for retrieval. But GM has been testing its batteries around the clock. Besides the fact there is every indication that the Volt will be produced, the Li Ion is more evidence that its not a hoax because if GM just wanted good publicity, they would use technology already available to make it easier to put out a show car.
If we can get over 40 mile range with plug in battery power this will get the ball rolling and with keeping the gasoline motor in play we will have less pushback from the government (lost gasoline tax revenue) and the oil lobbyist. This is a big pill for them to take and we need to start somewhere and the technology has to be developed on an industrial scale.
Chrysler is working on an EREV for 2010 that has a small high efficacy Fiat 2 CYL motor GEN set that will power the electric drive and charges the batteries at the same time for long trips over 100 miles. This is the way to go they need to decouple the gas motor from the drive train and start the motor only when needed.
I would not be found dead in a foreign car but you go ahead, I live and work in America and the automotive industry is one of the few industries the middle class has left that profits stay in the US, thats just me. But I will agree that we need an EV from one of the big 3, an EV without all the bells and gadgets that drive up the price. It looks like ford will have an all EV Fusion in late 2010 for fewer than 28K.
Flux., get it straight: the EV1 was MADE IN AMERICA and all of its fuel CAME FROM AMERICA. We don't import electric. GM WAS THE TRAITOR, HERE, FORCING US TO GO TO TOYOTA.
No disrespect intended dont get me wrong you are fighting for a good thing. Anyone can buy what they want to, but I like to fight for middle class manufacturing and EV technology. I think GM knows killing the EV1 was dumb and if they did not kill it back when they would be in the cat bird set right now.
There is no evidence in this video that the Volt is a hoax. How many car companies advertise cars that in development? GM is doing this much more extensively than almost has ever been done.
That's exactly the point. GM didn't advertize its new CAMARO prior to its being available; the VOLT, as Mr. Lutz stated recently, is important for Public Relations and Image, not for increasing fleet MPG numbers.
This one's bull, liveoilfree: GM showed the concept CAMARO for Years before they released it. GM comes to the Houston auto show every year and I saw the concept CAMARO twice, if not three times before they started production.
Wow, how could this guy be so wrong. If it were my video I'd delete to save the embarrassment.
dannytroy 2 months ago
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jakkaroo1 3 months ago
Old outdated video and thinking.
WDPlumbing 3 months ago
Was upgraded to nickel metal hydride when they became available x10. Annoying
mobilewired 3 months ago
Time to catch up with the latest technology and take this outdated video down buddy. The Volt is here, the Volt is selling, and the Volt is amazing one person after the other. Hence why it's Motor Trend's car of the year. Some hoax lol
DanielJaegerFilms 5 months ago
@DanielJaegerFilms Just over 100 a month is not considered good sales. It isn't even close to what people were expecting and as soon as gas is cheap again it will die an ugly death in a sea of red ink and taxpayer dollars.
shananagans5 5 months ago
The Volt is not a good car. It fails as an electric car (only 35 mile range) and it fails as a gas-powered stinker (265 miles). I would much prefer the Tesla Model S because it is ALL ELECTRIC. I don't want to ever stop at a gas station again. With a 300 mile range, five seats, and tons of cargo space, it is the most practical car I can think of. At $77,000 for the 300 mile range Model S signature edition, this is still not a cheap car. Then again, it performs like a Maserati or an Aston Martin.
TecnamTwin 6 months ago
@TecnamTwin Just did over 250 miles on battery only in my first week of owning the Volt, and others have gone well over 1000 miles with LESS than one gallon of gas, that sounds like the measuring stick of an electric car, hardly a fail. I guess when Chevy makes all electric car that goes 300 miles on one charge than they to can charge over 60 grand for it. But for now my budget was in the 43 range. So the Volt fits perfect and I spend the same on elect as I would the tesla S.
WDPlumbing 3 months ago
Interesting veiwpoint. Problem is, GM already announced more cars using this same powertrain. I understand skepticism, but this makes little sense. Why would they be planning additional cars in the next three years if this is something they are going to pull? Also, for many of us, 100 miles is not going to cut it. I live in CT - New England. That "100 mile range" in the winter is only 50 miles - does not work for me or anyone. Good luck selling that here, the Volt is a real option for us.
AcuraT 1 year ago
Money! Don't fuck with money!
sawink 1 year ago
@acavideo The real question is, how many Chevy Volts will be for sale? If Chevy wanted to, they could build many thousands of these vehicles, and gin up interest in buying them. What I hear is, they might have something like 10,000 available in 2011. Not exactly a deluge of vehicles.
bodryn 1 year ago
Hmmm. The company that crushed all the EV-1s, then went bankrupt to escape paying all those retirement accounts, then is bailed out by taxpayers, is now going to save the day on plugin hybrids. I wonder if they have a Brooklyn Bridge they'll sell us? I wonder if they keep all their profits in offshore accounts, to avoid paying US taxes?
bodryn 1 year ago
@mtechfan
true, but it does seem disingenuous to advertise a product by saying "America is back in the game" when the product was designed in another country.
Patrickz1984 1 year ago
What about the FCX? (forget about the pollution that takes to make) A Range Rover over its lifetime doesn't produce more pollution...manufacturing and running it.
sawink 1 year ago
Also u want to get hit in an EV1...TESLA? Do any of them run for more than 10 miles without problems or charging issues? The Leaf? Look at that piece of shit! The key was a car that was not changed in feel and exterior. Not a fan of big business crushing th little guy...but if near bankruptcy is the kick in the ass they need...we will pay for them to stay in business (oh that's right) Well over a millioon jobs saved and little jimmy and lisa go to school.Took 40 years for a kick in the ass
sawink 1 year ago
Those cars were impractical and looked like Hell! The EV1 ....seriously...You want to drive that? What if you have to go more than 100 miles.....you going to stop for 12 hours or more? If you go 30 miles a day -no gas is needed. I think you ow them an apology. It needs a car that the normal fat ass lazy USA citizen can drive-with a eww look at what I got factor.They don't mention the pollution that it takes to make this electric extended range, And since when is elect, free and 0 pollution?
sawink 1 year ago
@sawink Why, then, didn't Chevy allow anybody to buy their leased vehicles? Why didn't they even allow museums to keep any of them?
bodryn 1 year ago
@bodryn They own it. They can do with it what they want. Don't get in the way of big business.
sawink 1 year ago
@sawink Yeah, and as Al Capp used to say in the comics: "What's good for General Bullmoose is good for the country." Of course, because of nutsy decisions like these, GM had to be bailed out by, oh yes, the taxpayers. And the only way they could go forward at all was to dump all their responsibilities to GM retirees.
bodryn 1 year ago
@bodryn Isn't it Andy Capp? The fact that I know that is sad. Don't screw with their money. Poor workers....don't screw with money. END
sawink 1 year ago
@sawink I guess you don't remember Al Capp's Lil Abner comic strip.
bodryn 1 year ago
@bodryn Oh I know Lil Abner but, I am not nearly that old. (just educated). I was featured in Colliars magazine ....the Star Snoop section. Excellent! It's all going according to plan. All this money...I would trade it all....for a little more!
sawink 1 year ago
@sawink Well, I just couldn't help but react - Al Capp used to be a household name. Everybody knew who he was, then you say isn't it Andy Capp, and I realize time has marched on and I'm getting more and more out of date. :-(
bodryn 1 year ago
He doesn't get it. GM could easily get 100 miles of range with the Volt. They traded the weight of more batteries for the genset so that drivers could use existing infrastructure and not get stuck waiting for the recharge. The gas engine is there deliberately. If you drive < 40 miles a day you never need to put gas in it. But if you want to go 300 miles without refueling you can.
123bugmenot1 1 year ago
Man was this guy totally wrong. So much for being a conspiracy theorist. You lose!!!!
Dangrousdave20 1 year ago
i thought whats interesting is a ihave a 1996 z28 camaro convertible with a 4speed auto and at 70 ph on a hgih way trip we have went close to 380/ 400 miles a tank at 70 /75 mph now i feel with 2/4 more gears 800 miles per tank is in line be interesting to develop a 8 spee auto matic you go to 70 mph in say 4rth or od and then push a button and youer in 5th and go to 6th 7th and 8th gear to where the cars only idling what im getting at is gearing is the ky to great milage not eletric cars
zr1zora 1 year ago
@zr1zora So is that why all locomotives have gone to diesel electric???
bodryn 1 year ago
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this video and the idiot in it are a FAIL. Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200
dexter3333 1 year ago
I test drove one already. Duh
jesse1779 1 year ago
2011 and the Volt still isn't out . Seems like you are correct sir.
Lockemeister 1 year ago
@Lockemeister it goes on sale this week, just as promised, so no, not correct.
pokey6733 1 year ago
the volt is not a hoax its the future of transportation
samorivideos6 1 year ago
He speaks english, but manages to be completely obtuse about the Chevy Volt. I don't trust big industry any more than I trust big government, but with inarticulate incomprehensible ramblings, he does not convince anyone of anything other than his apparent need for heavy medication.
wclukens 1 year ago
GM volt? Don't they mean GM volga?
rw5791 1 year ago
Can anyone tell me what a "HOAX" it's realty scarring me! :{
TheLighting564 1 year ago
@thatsit12 Some families have 2 cars. One for going to work. Might be nice to have something for short trips and that has little to go wrong with it.
bodryn 1 year ago
I don't know why we gave them ANY money. They deserved to fail.
bodryn 1 year ago
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See, this is what happens when you try to predict the future.
wiredforstereo 1 year ago
Americans are good at consuming not producing...
rock3tcat 1 year ago
I don't think Chevy Volt is a "hoax" nor do I believe it is a green alternative. Those batteries have to be disposed off properly once they reach the end of their life cycle! The problematic part with electric cars is not their driving range, speed, or HP. Instead, it is the fact that they run on electricity and demand to be recharged. An all electric vehicle - increased demand of electric generating stations, increased cost of electricity, and higher demand of resources - petrol's comeback.
Cr3ativity 1 year ago
@Cr3ativity Petro's comeback?? w How about wind power?? Hydro electric?? Nuclear??? Even coal power plants pollute less than the hydrocarbons produced by vehicles....
crazybry79 1 year ago
@crazybry79 Coal power is going down the drain since the natural resource is limited and pollutes the most + releases high contents of mercury into the atmosphere. Nuclear power requires storage of depleted uranium which releases high contents of radiation. Wind power is costly and is only efficient in certain regions. Solar power remains expensive due to material cost but remains the best option available. Hydro power has the potential to disturb or destroy aquatic ecosystems. Fusion power....
Cr3ativity 1 year ago
Give hands up to the Nissan Leaf. One car company that cares.
JPRamon68 1 year ago
News Flash: Just heard a news story about the Volt. It will be mechanically connected to the wheels. It is not a series hybrid like they lead us to believe, but a standard plug in parallel hybrid. I am waiting for the Ford Focus EV. It will be here 2012
jason1973tl 1 year ago
While I can't verify your claim that Li-ion batteries have yet reach the 100k mile mark, remember that Li-ion batteries are a relatively young technology as compared to NiMH. Several companies have asserted the 10+ year claim in addition to GM, with LG claiming that their variant of Li-ion can last 40 years. Li-ion offers 3 to 7 higher energy density than NiMH, higher discharge efficiency, and has very similar charge cycle characteristics.
Raddy13 1 year ago
I know this is a old vid and you bring up some good points but the I think the volt is a reality. I think they have no choice, now that nissan has its leaf and others are in the pipeline for the near future. All auto manufactures could have a much better battery I agree but since GM screwed them selfs with the EV1 now have to pay the price.
gabbogabbo 1 year ago
@gabbogabbo So GM will come out with 10,000 VOLTS in 2011, and 40,000 in 2012. Is that a bandwagon? LOL. More like drips and drabs. Who would buy a 2 passenger VOLT when they could get a 7 passenger Tesla?
bodryn 1 year ago
@bodryn What do you mean by a two seater volt??
gabbogabbo 1 year ago
@gabbogabbo What I heard was that the Volt is a 2-seater. I didn't actually check it out, though. I do know that the new Tesla is to be a 7 seater.
bodryn 1 year ago
@bodryn Oh lol no its a four seater. Seven seats would be better or at least make it a 5 seater. The tesla is a great car for sure and with a possible range of something like 300 miles, that would be fantastic. It is alittle more expensive but its alot less then the roaster. If they keep the cost competitive and the parts prices down they could have a serious contender in the EV ring. The tesla and for that matter the leaf look better too :)
gabbogabbo 1 year ago
they had to destroy the EV1s because gas companys kept sewing GM and the american buyer wouldnt try to buy it. and have you seen the size of that battery thats pretty amazing what it gets,they will release another model. LITHIOM ION BATTERYS LAST LONGER AND ARE SAFER!
jjaquu 1 year ago
@ Liveoilfree... You are soooo right about the GM Volt being a hoax. I just read that they are thinking about making the next generation Volt with a rotary engine? WTF? They haven't even gotten the first generation Volt out yet and they are already working on a 2nd generation? What a bunch of liars!
xobile187 1 year ago
@xobile187 What I know of rotary engines is that they don't get as good gas mileage. E.g., the RX7 - a rotary powered sports car. Simpler engine, maybe, but poorer gas mileage.
bodryn 1 year ago
June 2, 2010 ...still no Chevy Volt...
Lockemeister 1 year ago
@Lockemeister That's because it wasn't promised until November 2010. Guess what, it is late October 2010, and it goes on sale within the week.
pokey6733 1 year ago
@pokey6733 on sale in "select markets" for 40,000 dollars. you gonna buy one? GM says it will take up to 18 months for the car to be "offered" nationwide.
Lockemeister 1 year ago
@Lockemeister That doesn't change the fact that it is here, thus NOT a "hoax".
pokey6733 1 year ago
@pokey6733 32 city/36 MPG highway? I thought it was going to get WAY WAY higher than that!
can you say scam?
"Popular Mechanics Finds Chevrolet Volt Gets 32 MPG City and 36 MPG Highway in Extended Range Mode"
Lockemeister 1 year ago
@Lockemeister That's in extended range mode, and as they admitted, driven with a "lead foot", so that seems reasonable to me. So what exactly is your point?
Of course, it is easy for nay-sayers to only focus on the ICE mileage, and totally ignore the fact that one could drive the Volt for weeks without using any gas at all.
I would rather have the Leaf for daily commutes, since we can use my wife's car for long commutes. for those that only have one car, Volt makes more sense.
pokey6733 1 year ago
@pokey6733 The car was touted by GM to get 230 MPG. It would use only electric motors to drive the wheels. Wrong ob both counts. 32/36 is what it gets in extended range. GM lied about the car and therefore it's a hoax. are you able to do any critical thinking?
Lockemeister 1 year ago
@Lockemeister They already backed off of the 230mpg claim long ago, which was based off of an early EPA calculation for measuring these types of vehicles.
What exactly did GM lie about? They said from the beginning that the Volt is an EREV, which is exactly what it is. They never touted it as an EV, ever. The electric motors do indeed always "drive the wheels". There is no fixed gear ratio between the engine and the drive wheels, that is fact.
pokey6733 1 year ago
@pokey6733 If you read the link I posted. Automotive experts say that GM lied about the Volt. It's not just "me". Wait 'till the car is out and lets see if people are happy with the 8 hr charge time to drive 25-50 Miles on pure battery before the 4 cyl engine kicks in for the extended range. Extended range means electric power generation to help charge the batteries. It also means 4 cylinder engine power to assist the electric motors at speeds above 70MPH. Lets see what MPG it "really " gets.
Lockemeister 1 year ago
@Lockemeister Furthermore, in extended range mode, the ICE kicks in to feed power through the electric drive unit.
There were no lies. There were exclusions of certain details that could not be made public until GM got the patents, but no lies.
I am capable of critical thinking, which is why , as I already stated, I won't be buying a Volt, it just wouldn't make sense for me, the Leaf is a better fit. Oh, right, you only look at the information that supports your argument.
pokey6733 1 year ago
@pokey6733 I used to routinely get 39 and 40 mpg with my Datsun B210, back in the 1970's. A straight gasoline engine outdoes the Chevy Volt! Hah! Volt=HOAX.
bodryn 1 year ago
Well let me tell YOU why the toyota product did not sell well... hopefully you will get this through your thick skull... TOYOTA SUCKS AT WHAT THEY DO. Toyota vehicles are cheaply made and are not as good at getting gas mileage as they claim to be. The solution BUY AMERICAN!
Nelly1293 1 year ago
what a moron!
ramblergarage 1 year ago
24MPG!!! that'd cost a fortune to run here in the UK.
FirebirdKnight 1 year ago
Take a bath hippie
zisel2 1 year ago
People don't know about the EV1. No wonder these dickheads are talking so much shit.
Good video, buddy.
StraightOuttaDC 1 year ago
@StraightOuttaDC Nobody? I knew about it, everyone I have talked to knew about it. The general public just didn't care about or want electric cars back in the '90s.
GM has made MANY mistakes in the past few decades, but killing the EV1 was not one of them. Sure, it would have made them look "green", but it would have been a sales flop.
I know it may shock some of you to find this out, but the sole purpose of a corporation is to MAKE MONEY.
pokey6733 1 year ago
Do you have anything substantial to backup your claims other than "hear say" and coincidence of oil prices dropping the same time GM changes their front page ad? How is the marketing department doing its job trying to sell cars a HOAX? You sir need to go to school, learn a few things about how the engineering world works, and stay off wikipedia... and please, talk to your doctor about getting some valium for your SEVERE paranoia.
Thank you and good day
jasonvan9 1 year ago
@jasonvan9 You, jason, need to learn a bit about the politics of corporate power and govt giveaways before you pass judgment. You might also ask yourself why there are so few car companies now when there were over a dozen back in the 1950's, giving people a real choice.
bodryn 1 year ago
well its not, 2011
blowgunking1994 1 year ago
why cant we just go to H20 cars? why do we have to get so complicated with electrics?
komahoby 1 year ago
The goal of the volt is to get people to work and back on electricity. Lithium Ion batteries are much better at what they do than lead acid or NiMH. But they are new for auto use, and there are bugs to work out. The volt could have had a longer EV range but it would cost more. If it can get most people to work and back with a 40 mile range, why add more and make it more expensive? The generator is only there to eliminate range anxiety, which people still had with 100 mile EV-only cars.
proaudiohd 1 year ago
I don't know but I have a Chevy Cobalt and I am mad I thought it took regular power steering !! but NOO it is all electric, my power steering has been out for awhile, and when I drive it something electric smells like it is burning.Their supposed to be doing a recall. but I am still waiting? I am very dissaponted in GM right now.
blueangel528hz 1 year ago
@blueangel528hz They already did that recall a couple weeks ago. *They're*
migetman2805 1 year ago
he is insane. like our government.
brett2100 1 year ago
Looks like you've got a point.
DarkMantis 1 year ago
time has shown this guy to be a nit wit.
pjkBP 1 year ago
Clean Diesel exsist RIGHT NOW. Why won't the USA subsidize them like they do bullshit hybrid cars? A diesel will get 20-30% more mpg than an equivalent gas car...a change to diesels will buy us years and years of time while we figure out electric cars...so why aren't diesels being used to their full potential????
lilpoindexter 2 years ago
@lilpoindexter Uh, there is a problem running diesels in cold weather. In northern states, there are 2 types of diesel fuel. Also, people will use a de-gel additive to keep a diesel from stalling out. I know, I've been there. Also diesel mechanics are not so easy to come by.
bodryn 1 year ago
This guy only "thinks it's a hoax" to get air time. It's all about him and to hell with the rest of us.
scottwilkins 2 years ago
The Big 3 are failures. It should be apparent to anyone nowadays. Let them fail, and let capitalism work. No bailouts, no exceptions.
whoo689 2 years ago
DUDE! The Tesla Roadster and the coming Model S will be the electric car of the future! Tell GM to go to HELL. Buy A TESLA!
slyman86 2 years ago
Tesla justs needs to build a factory in Georgia so i can get a job
NeeKroVal 2 years ago
Sorry, I'm pretty sure they are building it in California.
slyman86 2 years ago
lead batteries are bulkier, more expensive per life span and do not have the extensive life of l-ion. if you put 3 times the ion batteries in the volt you could get close to 120 miles on a charge, but that would drive the price even higher. Production costs of electric and hydrogen cars is the real problem not technology development.
rrod733 2 years ago
The Traverse should be getting more than 30 per gallon highway. It's funny that GM and other automakers aren't making much mention of their city mileage because it would be shameful, probably 16 or 17 mpg. This is no better than the SUVs being replaced.
I still wished GM had been able to build a competent minivan because they're a lot more convenient with kids than a crossover would be. Larger door openings and lower floors for one thing, not to mention getting into the third seat...
fixinggrace 2 years ago
@fixinggrace The Traverse is a 2.5 ton vehicle!!! That it get's over 20 MPG is amazing enough as it is. And it gets the best of all vehicles identical to it. Isn't the best good enough? Or are your requirements unrealistic?
scottwilkins 2 years ago
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fixinggrace 2 years ago
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@ scottwilkins It's rated at 24 mpg highway. So I'll give you that. Next time you want to argue, don't insinuate that someone's requirements are unrealistic. Mine are that it starts, runs, carries some cargo and doesn't cost a mint to drive. I've gotten close to 28 mpg with my Ford Windstar on the highway. The only thing I find amazing with the Traverse is the kitschy, overwrought grille and price tag. Please do not bother replying.
fixinggrace 2 years ago
The traverse can't compare to the pilots reliability, resale, and cost of ownership. Whats the point of buying something that gets almost identical MPG? yet it doesn't meet all these expectations like the pilot has. This is like trying to compare the civic to the cobalt. Give me a break. The civic wins every time hands down.
EpiDemic117 2 years ago
Fix, you should look at the Equinox instead. 32 MPG and it meets your other expectactions too.
scottwilkins 2 years ago
@scottwilkins How about the old 1973 Datsun B210? I routinely got 39 and 40 mpg with it, city or country.
bodryn 1 year ago
lol, u must be talking for urself?? Did gas cars always give you more than 100 miles when first introduced?? Plus no one is saying REPLACE all GAS VEHICLES. What happened to competition in America. Guess the oil/gas and car companies have accomplished the goal of want vs needs and tons of misinformation.
Tamayo1980 2 years ago
Why don't you buy one of those $16K pickup trucks, put an electric motor in it, fill the bed with lead acid batteries and drive 100 miles from the nearest internet connection. That or educate yourself about what "successful" means when it comes to manufacturing an automobile. Building and maintaining a car for over $100K and leasing it for $300/month is not a success. And stop saying the Volt has a 40 mile range. It's total range is about 200 miles. It's range on electric only power is 40 miles.
whatwoulditmatter 2 years ago
When are we gonna stop worrying about money and profits. That y our country is where its at right now. Gas vehicles never used to travel as far as they do now as they did back then, so the argument about electric vehicles not going far is stupid. As if we are all gonna wake up tomorrow and all our gas vehicles are all banished to mars. WTF, if Microsoft can't be a monopoly! then why should the gas/car companies rule the way we travel. Nothing wrong with a little competition.
Tamayo1980 2 years ago
The EV1 cost near 100,000 to produce one unit. There are many factors why the electric car was postoned. It does suck that money screws over progress.
Kimble275 2 years ago
NO, oil and greed screwed progress.
imagine Not having 2 buy gas (wheres my choice), no more oil changes every 4k miles, no more anti-freeze, and all those expensive different little parts (stupid O2 sensor, starter, and the numerous moving parts would have been a thing of the past. Try to get a inspection done on ur 2007 car that has check engine light due to gas cap and air in tank. frustration on all levels because dealers want ur money and Mechs ready 2 lie to u in order to get ur money
Tamayo1980 2 years ago
I know some people will have 10 reasons why they buy foreign but keep in mind that we need jobs. You may not be out of a job now but if we keep on the road we are on, you or someone you love or know will be jobless.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
My Toyota was made in Kentucky!
CosmicGrooves 2 years ago
We need to make and buy things that are made in the US. Have some pride in things that are made in our country.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago 11
@FluxCapacitor2008 Yes, we need to make things in the US. But the recent recession and economic collapse shows that it's not about pride.
whatwoulditmatter 2 years ago
Yeah i second that, but whats wrong with having a different source of transportation other than all gas or hybrid vehicles. EV-1 was made in America and crushed by GM because they were in the pockets of the gas and oil companies and they don't want any competition in their monopolized market
Tamayo1980 2 years ago
@FluxCapacitor2008
The Volt wasn't even designed by Chevrolet. It's based on the German 2006/2007 Opel Flextreme/Ampera concept.
Patrickz1984 1 year ago
@FluxCapacitor2008 LOL, the Volt is just an over-hyped hybrid, it's not even a series hybrid like they said it would be. It's no better than a Prius.
Er... actually, it's probably not anywhere as good as a Prius because nearly everything GM makes is junk, the Volt is just very expensive junk.
idontcare80 1 year ago
Looks like GM is building the volt Hoax, I know a lot of people have a bug up their butts about the ev1. Big oil, government and GM are all at fault for that screw up, but we need to look forward and nurture American EV manufacturing.
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Christ, shut your old fucking mouth. Pushrod V8s for life, fuck faggy electric vehicles.
RedneckBlumpkin 2 years ago
@RedneckBlumpkin I suppose you enjoy funding foreign oil dictators, dummy?
liveoilfree 2 years ago
@liveoilfree, jesus shut up dude nobody cares about your opinion.
rockstardrinker95 1 year ago
haha...nothing like good old domestic cars that get poor gas mileage but they are american made! I'd say electric cars are weak sauce at best , if you want to be a boring plain jane blend in with everyone else and work in a cubicle than sure EV1 cars and of the like are for you.
dmx011 2 years ago
Hey dumb ass, not because u work in a box everyone else has 2. No one is saying replace all gas vehicles, but instead make a market for for the electric vehicles in the Gas monopolized market. Look at the Tesla Roadster (all electric but expensive an i bet you it would smoke any gas operated vehicle you may own) If i could have an all electric vehicle that could take me to an from work i would be set, this would prob be true for 90% of our population or for people w/more than one vehicle.
Tamayo1980 2 years ago
well cars are becoming far more fuel efficient than they ever where. So in effect that should piss off oil companies even more unless they raise the prices from little demand. I wouldn't mind having a station next to my house that could produce a synthetic solution similar to gasoline but for far less to power my already gas sipping 4 cylinder car.
EpiDemic117 2 years ago
@EpiDemic117 I routinely got 39-40mpg with my 1973 Datsun B210. How does that compare with your "modern" gas sipping cars?
bodryn 1 year ago
@bodryn 39-40 mpg in 1973 is fantastic for sure. I have a 2000 toyota echo. Im a hypermiler and on a good tank I can easily hit 60 mpg.
gabbogabbo 1 year ago
@bodryn Yeah! well i get 50+ MPG with my Yamaha MAxim! BOOH YEAH! BEAT THAT SUCKA! but you also have to remember though, Most modern cars have waaay more power, suspension, and interior quality compared to the ones being sold in the 70's.
EpiDemic117 1 year ago
well then I guess you don't know what kind of cars I have! btw nice reply I think you old man are the jerk here...I'll drive the all american cars cars and not electric junk.
dmx011 1 year ago
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you sir are a retarded monkey.
you should find the nearest freeway and lay down and take a nap on it...
cyberdude2552 2 years ago
@cyberdude2552 very interesting concept. Do you ever manage to put two thoughts together, or do you only blather and drool?
liveoilfree 2 years ago
the volt will be a big flop.. just wait and see.. it will be gone within 5 years after it is put into production..
xobile187 2 years ago
None of those electric cars mentioned were seriously mass production grade so it's apples and oranges.
But I'm sure that's of no concern to an eco-marxist hell bent on destroying every car company.
aallppiinnee 2 years ago 2
this guy is an idiot. The basis for the volt is the fact that unlike the Prius, its a full electric vehicle run off of electric motors that can run up to 40 miles in which time the 4 cylinder motor kicks in ONLY to recharge the batteries, not run the vehicle. the 100mpg thing is based on the fact that the average person does not drive 40 miles to work every day, so acually, it would probably get better. Even on road trips, the generator only charges the batteries so it cuts off afterwards.
mtooshort20 2 years ago
If they designed it so it was only driven off of the electric battery, it would be terribly inefficient. Every time energy changes forms (i.e. gas to electricity through a generator) it loses a significant amount of it's potential. If it was like that, the MPG would be much lower than that of a comparable gas-only car.
4stringshayden 2 years ago
Isn't that the way trains operate? Mechanical energy (diesel) converted to electrical energy (traction motor) into mechanical energy.
3089280288 2 years ago
Those "Hybrid Trains" work the same way as current hybrid cars- energy is stored from regenerative braking and used later; there is no diesel→electric conversion except for when excess energy is used.
4stringshayden 2 years ago
Cliffs- No
4stringshayden 2 years ago
GM got rid of the EV1 because it cost way to much and was impractical. Lithium ion battires are the future. Also i just had a volt in my driveway and your trying to tell me it doesn't exsist?
mooserman911 2 years ago
this video is a year old
Lgamez7 2 years ago
oh lol.
mooserman911 2 years ago
I positively hate these GM electric car/JFK/Aliens/Flat Earth/Fake moon landing..etc conspiracy nut cases. Pay attention. the Volt failure videos are obviously a gear driven low power versions, all electric long range that didn't work right. One hundred miles is a non-starter, no ability to recharge within a suitable time frame, the EV1 an overweight two-seater, poor handling. The LA batteries taking up too much room & too heavy.
RichardEllisxyz 2 years ago 3
LOL
manoman0 2 years ago
finally someone who isn't an ignorant fool.
mooserman911 2 years ago
If the Volt-Hoax was real it would be out by now in fact last year they said (well is said on the news they MIGHT of got there facts wrong) it would be out around 2010 late 2009 and now I'm hearing 2011-2013
GANTZ100pts 2 years ago
sorry for the double post but I just saw this Video and thought you might get a kick out it of it
watch?v=_h5AOWL0fRE&feature=related
GANTZ100pts 2 years ago
You've been watching that '2012' trailer a few too many times, your fantasy is taking over.....the Volt is coming out in late 2010.
bellaggio1770 2 years ago
i won't talk tech, style wise, ev and volt fail.
hanstaILL 2 years ago
It was Saturn that confiscated our EV1, and it was GMAC which tried to charge us for "excess wear" on the EV1 that GM crushed. When they were told to document their claim, they violated FCRA and tried to (illegally) damage our credit.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
You are a nut case. Did the Alien Grand Master tell you this???
YYZ5000 2 years ago
Not, it's a thing called "common sense". Is that you there under an alias, Bob Lutz?? I hear Saturn is gonna be shut down. Revenge of the EV1!!
liveoilfree 2 years ago
GM really did conspire to make the EV1 disappear, they really f-ed people up with that trick. However, GM can't just pick up the EV1 bits and put em in the Volt. How long does it take to create a new ICE car? It takes years.......so compare that to the Volt. Its not much more.
bellaggio1770 2 years ago
I disagree with this there are going to be failures its part of science. If they get this battery dezigned perfect they will be put in history for ever. Why should they wait for someone elce to make this battery when they're allready half way there? Things like this are going to take time and money.
sayer308 2 years ago
yep-hoax sure enough.electric companies cant provide electric capacity for everyone to recharge thier cars when they get home.government loses too much revenue in taxs.cars need less servicing so dealers and service agents wont get much business.
nifftynick 2 years ago
Sorry 100 miles is not enough. Chevy got it right.
AlamoCityCello 2 years ago
100 miles is plenty for the daily drive; only an illusion makes you think you need a car capable of driving to Alaska when you are only driving to work in Pacoima.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
If and when NiMH packs fail, they could all be "reformed", as lead-acid batteries are reformed; ALL the metals needed for the new batteries are found in the OLD batteries, no new mining needed. 75% of our Ni comes from recycling now.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
Liveoilfree
I thought auto makers could not develop NiMH large scale batteries for now.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
There already are large-format NiMH; the only thing stopping them is Chevron's control of the worldwide patent licensing rights, and their refusal (so far) to allow further production of large-format NiMH.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
Ironically, if the VOLT had 12 kWh of NiMH, it would weigh about the same as the proposed Lithium pack, 400 lbs.!!
So what's the advantage of Lithium? It costs more, is short-lived, unproven, and can't be recycled.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
The VOLT-hoax requires 16 kWh of Lithium be purchased in order to yield only 8 kWh of useful energy. The RAV4-EV has up to 30 kWh and ALL of it is accessible; and it lasts for more than 100K miles, and ALL NICKEL IS RECYCLABLE.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
EVERY successful EV started with lead-acid and then moved to advanced batteries when and if they became available. Since the VOLT-hoax only has 40 miles range, even lead would work; get it out now, stop fooling around, later upgrade to advanced batteries.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
The next problem with Lithium is success. Right now, the cost of is about as low as it can get because of high volume of lap top batteries. But if it had to be recycled, the cost would rise alarmingly, since recycling Lithium is very difficult.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
Let's be clear, EV folks would LOVE it if Lithium panned out, some day; now, the estimated cost of replacement Tesla batteries is $38,000 (after 50K miles). Not yet economically practical. But NiMH is practical, long-lasting, non-toxic and well-proven.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
Sportsferk800
Good comments.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
AS you know the pushback against EV technology will come from all sides, so we need it get behind any one that will reinvest in the technology that we all need.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
"The problem with the theory of the Volt is that GM hasn't recognized past EV cars have been successful".
First, the Volt has nothing to do with past electric cars, and its not even an EV, its an EREV.
Second, the argument that the Volt is a hoax is not based on fact, and if one were to actually look at what's happening, every indication is that the car will be produced.
We should be commending GM for investing in this technology rather than blasting them for the past.
sportsfreak800 2 years ago
That's where you expose your ignorance. The VOLT-hoax is a 40-mile-range EV, just like our conversions, with a gas genset. This is something that's been done by EV drivers for decades. Nothing unusual, except that it gulls the gullible.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
When did I say it hasn't been done before? It hasn't been mass produced though. If your conversions are so good and marketable, why didn't someone mass produce them? I agree that electric is great, but there are reasons beyond dishonesty and oil collusion why EVs have not been mass produced. Volts are rolling off the assembly line as I am typing, your Volt-hoax theory is the actual hoax.
sportsfreak800 2 years ago
You stated that GM is to be commended, and that the VOLT-hoax has "nothing to do with past electric car". Even GM doesn't say that. The VOLT-hoax is NOT rolling off ANY assembly lines; they still haven't solved the generator-battery interface problem, last I heard.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
Cant the 40 mile-range be a start to something better and that cost's less?
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
Flux, that's the whole reason I think GM's VOLT is a hoax. If they were serious, they would start with lead and NiMH, and later upgrade to Lithium when and if it's ever proven to work in an EV. So far, it's a hoax. No Lithium EV has gone more than 50K miles on the same battery pack, it doesn't recycle, and costs more.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
Tesla uses lithium, it is recyclable and non-hazardous, and has been proven so far. Why does using advanced battery technology make you assume something is a hoax? That's just not logical. You have to have more evidence than that to convince people of your theory. Lithium Ion batteries have many advantages over the other options, that's why Tesla and GM are choosing that technology over the OLD types of batteries.
sportsfreak800 2 years ago
Tesla's batteries are only guaranteed for 50K miles, and may be prorated; while Lithium is non-toxic, it's not recylcable and is just discarded into the trash because it costs more to process old batteries than to mine Lithium ore.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
If demand goes up, its possible that it could be economical for retrieval. But GM has been testing its batteries around the clock. Besides the fact there is every indication that the Volt will be produced, the Li Ion is more evidence that its not a hoax because if GM just wanted good publicity, they would use technology already available to make it easier to put out a show car.
sportsfreak800 2 years ago
Or redeveloped on an industrial scale.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
If we can get over 40 mile range with plug in battery power this will get the ball rolling and with keeping the gasoline motor in play we will have less pushback from the government (lost gasoline tax revenue) and the oil lobbyist. This is a big pill for them to take and we need to start somewhere and the technology has to be developed on an industrial scale.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
Chrysler is working on an EREV for 2010 that has a small high efficacy Fiat 2 CYL motor GEN set that will power the electric drive and charges the batteries at the same time for long trips over 100 miles. This is the way to go they need to decouple the gas motor from the drive train and start the motor only when needed.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
If you believe Chrysler; I don't.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
I would not be found dead in a foreign car but you go ahead, I live and work in America and the automotive industry is one of the few industries the middle class has left that profits stay in the US, thats just me. But I will agree that we need an EV from one of the big 3, an EV without all the bells and gadgets that drive up the price. It looks like ford will have an all EV Fusion in late 2010 for fewer than 28K.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
Flux., get it straight: the EV1 was MADE IN AMERICA and all of its fuel CAME FROM AMERICA. We don't import electric. GM WAS THE TRAITOR, HERE, FORCING US TO GO TO TOYOTA.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
No disrespect intended dont get me wrong you are fighting for a good thing. Anyone can buy what they want to, but I like to fight for middle class manufacturing and EV technology. I think GM knows killing the EV1 was dumb and if they did not kill it back when they would be in the cat bird set right now.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
So I for one will get behind any US manufacture that is trying to reinvest in the EV-1 technology.
FluxCapacitor2008 2 years ago
There is no evidence in this video that the Volt is a hoax. How many car companies advertise cars that in development? GM is doing this much more extensively than almost has ever been done.
sportsfreak800 2 years ago
That's exactly the point. GM didn't advertize its new CAMARO prior to its being available; the VOLT, as Mr. Lutz stated recently, is important for Public Relations and Image, not for increasing fleet MPG numbers.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
This one's bull, liveoilfree: GM showed the concept CAMARO for Years before they released it. GM comes to the Houston auto show every year and I saw the concept CAMARO twice, if not three times before they started production.
redraider281 2 years ago