2nd Collapse WTC Tower 1 9/11 World Trade Center

[waterattack]

@SheepAsleepWakeUp Jeez what the fuck are you a 9/11 expert? Is it your sad little hobby? I personally do not give a flying fuck about anything else that happened that day except for the fact that there were four plane accidents that day. I have watched documentaries on 9/11 and what information was given I know. That is all. I don't spend my day looking up how many meters high and how many windows. I am from South Africa, I do not care. I haven't done school projects. I gave what I know. Fuck..

[waterattack]

@SheepAsleepWakeUp Your question was, "How many SKYSCRAPERS collapsed that day?" Well, was that building a SKYSCRAPER or a building?

[waterattack]

@waterattack So yes, I'm sure that only two skyscrapers collapsed.There may have been buildings that collapsed, but skyscrapers, big,incredibly tall buildings, only two.

[MrNaaki1201]

@waterattack @SheepAsleepWakeUp Not sure how tall this building 7 is.

If a building makes changes or sticks out among any other building then its classed as a sky scraper.

Dont no what building 7 looks like so i cant comment on which it was

[waterattack]

@SheepAsleepWakeUp Haha sure, two collapsed.Both the world trade centers.They were very important to America.So the terrorists targeted them...I know all this because I'm a aviation enthusiast/training pilot.

[AnnabelLolita]

feel sorry for all the dead people, but fortiently most were americans so no big loss ;)

[shelbyfanman]

if it was a demo. - people/government will pay. But it wasn't, people still will. Perhaps this was the beginning of that "New World Order" bullshit. ARGH! All these conspiracy theories are doing my head in!!!

[djhuli]

Fue una demolicion excelente, un avion por si solo nunca habria tirado ninguna de las 2 torres.

[FuckinOzzy]

LOOK AT THAT SHIT!

WOW!LOL

[UnitedStates168]

all attacks, threats, etc. against the Americans is due to jealousy, I think. I love this country and have always done. I always defend all bullshit about the usa and I'm definitely on the Americans' side. Christian Sweden.

[Connornichols]

R.I.P

[calos925]

i was 6 when this happened and my mom told me not to watch because there were people jumping from the building then i saw the Tower 1 collapse

[switchfootdude224]

i was 7 when this happened. i remember watching the buildings collapse

[DjFreshmatic]

what I don´t get± the tower was hit pretty much at the top so the floors below it were pretty much still intact, how could it collapse. I hope whoever did this will die a slow and painfull death n burn in hell.

R.I.P.

[krskipp]

because the floors above the impact point collapsed onto the ones below. The weight is then pushing down on the other floors and the whole building can be seen to concertina.

[floNeunzehn93]

yea that´s right. i read anywhere that in the north tower the weight of the stories over the point of impact was something like 41,000 tons.

[MrFudgehog]

i' was inside the building meaby 1-2 hours before collapsing

[foghaze]

@MrFudgehog Did you hear any explosions before impact?

[Opelfreakie]

@foghaze That would be the plane hitting the building and exploding. A Boeing 767 carries something like 50 tons of fuel, so that might have exploded.

[Nassault630]

@foghaze Are you serious? This man went through a rough time, and you're going to hose him with gay/fucking retarded questions? You're such a fucking fag.

[Sleepingpillz]

lol owned

[floNeunzehn93]

guess you don´t have any clue of what you´re saying

[nd03ltz]

horrific! RIP from england.

[Headshock0111]

Never before was a catastrophe so terrible, unexpected and shocking that the world seemed to stand still when the news showed live pictures of this. Today, at the 8th anniversary, I am not in the mood to celebrate but to pray and cry for the people who died in the World Trade Center on that fateful day. May you all rest in piece. In my mind I put a white rose on each of your graves so that everyone of you shall never be forgotten. My heartfelt sympathy to everyone who lost someone in there. 9/11

[adrianlindsaylohan]

@Headshock0111 Well I could name a few more terrible, unexpected and shocking events. In fact they are all over the place, assassination of the 3 presidents, Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, death of princess diana, the doom of titanic, boxing day tsunami, the list goes on and on ......

[iceman2933]

8 years ago today......RIP from canada.

[hawkeye448]

Visualise it this way Dirtmanand . Go up to a widowed partner or parent and say it was their own country that killed em, the air escaping would be forced out your mouth and nose as they punched you hard in the stomach even though the stomach and mouth are nowhere near each other. Air just escapes where it can.

[dirtmanad]

if you cant tell something is wrong with the whole thing your a fucking moron science has proved that the air would not do that no building has ever came down like that in the history get a clue i wish you were right but our government is the most to blame i dont know what happen but i know those planes were not hijacked tell me why fema never investegated it if the steel melted you would think they would make sure it never happen again why didnot ntsb put those planes back together cover up

[lilythehedgefox]

mightve planted bombs in the planes and they mightve gone off when the hit WTC

[miglage]

I would like to express my sincere solidarity with all those american citizens who have been accused of antipatriotism and anti-americans simply because they did not agree with the official Bush doctrine. Unbeliavable that the 21st century began in USA with a new version of the Witch Hunt, this time the Ashcroft Bush Cheney maffia gang instead of McCarthy. Regards from Amsterdam. PEACE. Michael

[miglage]

I realized a few years that it was an inside job. why? For dark purposes and interests.

Moreover, I am convinced that this was organized and executed knowing that the vast majority of the US population are extremely reluctant to believe that this is an inside job, no matter all the evidence that can be shown.

Keeping an atmosphere of fear, limiting freedom of speech, arresting people, having all the media repeating lies, and the military reaction pavlow syndrome, that is also helpful.

[abergavennymelmoth]

couldnt agree more mate. keep the truth coming out, people are starting to listen. peace x

[stinglikeabee1]

No doubt whatsoever. 911 was an inside job. They made far too many errors.

[abergavennymelmoth]

yes. fo sure

[dex13911]

The weight at the top is dispersed as the building falls and turns to dust which should mean there is less weight and pressure the further down the tower went. So why does it continue to fall into the basement. The smaller the building got the more sturdier and stable it would have gotten. Like breaking a long piece of string compared to a short one.

[VNVNation2006]

"which should mean there is less weight and pressure the further down the tower went." Wtf are you talking about? Does WEIGHT AND GRAVITY NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? Things don't magically get lighter when they drop, as you expect. They get heavier, b/c the pressure and gravity forces them down. This is 3rd grade science.

[dex13911]

I just got this message. I think you missed the point. What weight? the top of the building disintegrated. It was pulverized into dust and other chunks of metal as it fell. So what weight are you talking about. There was nothing on top of the building, so there would have been no weight other then the weight of the dust and chunks and they were being thrown in the air. So again what weight are you talking about? the weight of the dust smoke and debris in the air above the tower.

[VNVNation2006]

You mean to tell me that the TOP of the building isn't weight? Look at the video, and try to tell me that it all "completely disintegrated". I don't even understand how you could think that when you can see clear as day the tower coming down on top of itself. Not "controlled" in the manner that it perfectly fell like a controlled demo does (as you DO see the debris scatter). The floors, the metal, wood, etc, that all didn't just "disintegrate" completely or poof out the side. Come now.

[dex13911]

First I want to state that I don't completely believe that the buildings were brought down with explosives but I'm not going to automatically rule that out. I just don't believe the pancake theory. The floors above the impact point disintegrate as they fall but the rest of the building looks like its being ripped apart by some kind of force. What if it was an engineering fault. That might explain why it looked like controlled demolition. The truth movement needs to look at all possibilities.

[dirtmanad]

look at 19-21sec you can see a chunk of something heavy get blown out the window the collapse is still about 30-40 floors above whatever got blown out of the building watch haw fast it falls IF YOU DONT THINK OUR GOVERNMENT TOOK OUT THOES BUILDINGS YOUR A FUCKING DUMMY

[carnivalfun1]

the floors were collapsing inside of the building, draggin the shell of the building slightly after it andcompressing a whole lotta air that burst through the windows. Also demolition at this point would be unnecessary as the building is already going down

[VNVNation2006]

Are you sure that wouldn';t be the pockets of air getting blown out of the windows? YOu know, like smart people actually realize before they make up shit. DUMMY. Learn something about science before you call anyone else stupid.

[stingwcw1998]

mt st helens was way more powerfull

[alltheblacks]

Watch the improbable collapse series on YT and you will see scientific evidence the refutes the 911 Commissions explanations as to how the buildings collapsed. I am one that also believes that those three buildings were brought down with explosives and I don't need to provide the evidence, it's out there. If you want to buy into the lies, you're welcome to, I envy your comfort. This is the Reichstag Fire in the US, simple provocation for an unjust war.

[TemporalBouncer]

Dude. The towers were constructed of steel and concrete. When that upper section collapsed, that amounted to like a 20-story building crashing down onto the floors below it.  Nothing would have stopped that and there would be no need for explosives. Get off this "bombs in the building" kick - it didn't happen - they weren't there! It's like a freakin' religion - people are looking for "evidence" to support their beliefs, but they don't know WTF they're actually looking at.

[alltheblacks]

A 20 story building? So that would explain why the building fell from 80+ stories in freefall with no resistence? What you don't know or don't understand is that the steel framework of that building is based on supports that are offset and interlocked. Therefore, all those supports would have to simultanesouly fail. Are you telling me that happened? if so, you need to take a physics class, as that's impossible. WTC is the only steel skyscraper to melt.

[TemporalBouncer]

I know quite well how the buildings were constructed and I understand how they came apart. Besides, to support the bomb theory you'd have to set things up so precisely and crash the planes in at just exactly the right spot and time everything so accurately that to pull it off once - much less twice - would make Hollywood special effects people envious. Pretty damn risky. What if it didn't work? No one would take that chance on such a large scale "cover-up".

[ggSWALLOWEDme]

if there wasn't resistance the building would have fallen straight down. pause the video at 11 seconds, the falling parts are out of the frame well over the merc. if you worked down there you would know that's about a quarter mile walk from the north tower to moran's where debris landed. by the way i worked in 4wtc, i saw the holes up close, i have a degree in physics, and didn't need it to know the buildings were coming down which is exactly why i went home after the 2nd plane hit

[alltheblacks]

Where'd you get your physics degree from? It's certainly not logical to say that the falling of the debris dictates a measure of resistance. Not to mention that there would need to be significant help in a building with that fortified steel frame to just come apart all at once.

[ggSWALLOWEDme]

rhode island.

i was responding to the person who posted the video, who on his profile claims there was "zero resistance" falling.

it's not logical to think a circuit would remain open after getting hit by a jet.

wiring those buildings would take a small army months if not years, and all their work down the drain as the plane hit. since both collapses started just below the impact zones it's simply ignorant to suggest wiring would have stayed in tact in full functionality.

[Frasure3000]

fucking idiot.

[alltheblacks]

Wow your point is totally brilliant.

[Frasure3000]

It may not be "brilliant." But "fucking idiot" actually is appropiate to describe you conspiracists. "Fucking idiot" is a simple, short description of 9/11 conspiracists.

[alltheblacks]

My god, you're a scientist. My adding a few dozen more words to your insult, you're really making a sound argument. Have I spoken of conspiracies, you fucking idiot?

[Frasure3000]

Oh so I guess your a scientist, too by calling me a fucking idiot? You just contradicted yourself. Anyways, so you've never spoken of conspiracies? Then come out and give counterevidence to the conspiracists.

[alltheblacks]

No, I'm a scientist because I have a degree in science. I called you an idiot because I was talking to someone else about something and then you walk in with "fucking idiot" as the sum of your reply. If you have a point, make it. You don't have a point, which is why "fucking idiot" sums you and your argument up so succinctly. You're also a fucking idiot for jumping to conclusions and being a little bully on YouTube.

[Frasure3000]

Ok I'm just wondering. Who in your immediate family (includes grandfathers, great-grandparents) has served in the military?

[Frasure3000]

My uncle served in the Gulf War in '91. My father was in the army, and then went to the National Guard. My grandfather served in the Vietnam War and went MIA in the jungles. My great-grandfather was in the military during WWII. My point is, I don't care if your some preppy scientist. You don't have to be a scientist to understand that terrorists attacked our country and that they caused the towers to fall. You just have to be a red-blooded, hard-working, and loyal American.

[alltheblacks]

Your family has served our country alright, but what about you? I guess making statements on Youtube is keeping up that rich family tradition right? I'm hardly the preppy scientist, but as a scientist regardless of your fashion, one thing is simple, when the facts don't support the conclusion, you must reject the hypothesis.

[ggSWALLOWEDme]

In a controlled demo, the lower floors hit the ground before the upper floors.

In the case of the towers, no floor collapsed until all the above floors did. In the case of the 2nd collapse, the entire top section fell at once at an angle correspondent to the impact angle spanning many floors.

Your theory suggests that the tower was wired

to know precisely the correct location & angle of the impact, & strong enough to withstand that trauma. Maybe it was wired w/the stuff they found in Roswell

[alltheblacks]

In a controlled demo, the lower floors collapse first because the detonations are timed that way and for no other reason. So if one were to change the timing sequence of the explosives, it would fall in whatever manner the timing dictates. My theory? I didn't know I had one, is it published?

[ggSWALLOWEDme]

nah man, thats completely false. u need to take some civil engineering.

the bottom hits first or else the top falls at an angle destroying neighboring structures. this is exactly what happened on 9-11 particularly the 2nd which had an impact zone near the top. this explains why the 2nd tower caused so much damage to buildings hundreds of feet away.

in a controlled demo, the other buildings wouldve been fine. example -90 west was gutted. in a controlled demo, 90 west doesnt have a scratch on it

[alltheblacks]

Civil engineering classes eh? I'm sure you've taken yours. So it's "completely false" that buildings collapse in correlation with the timing of the explosives? Maybe you need to send me your old text books. Otherwise, I'm convinced you'll argue your face is your ass just because you think it's my conspiracy theory.

[alltheblacks]

As for bombs not being in the building, there are videos all over youtube from the WTC where you can hear explosions and see police, firefighters and reporters react to them. Do you deny that exists? They were there, you weren't. I don't look for evidence that supports my belief. I look for evidence that explains what really happened on 911 because the government's answers don't hold up.

[TemporalBouncer]

Who said I wasn't there? Bodies - soft, fleshy bodies - hitting the ground after falling 90+ floors sounded like booms. This was a massive building that was hit by an airliner - all kinds of crap was falling from that building, down elevator shafts, etc. Any steel beam or good chunk of concrete hitting the ground or a car or structure or elevator car at the bottom sounds like a bomb going off. The thing was coming apart and it did not happen all at once.

[TemporalBouncer]

The structure became weaker as more internal supports failed due to weakening from the heat until it reached a breaking point where it could no longer support the weight of the floors above. The buildings did not collapse at free-fall speed - that is an empty argument by people who can't count. If you listen closely from the right perspective, you can hear that it takes over 25 seconds to come down. And really - what's going to stop it? Most people cannot conceive the forces involved.

[TemporalBouncer]

I'm not saying there was nothing fishy about 9-11, but I am saying that there were no bombs in the f-ing buildings, and I wish you and all the other people who can't process what they see and hear due to being overly excited would just get over it. It was one hell of a crappy day, and everybody there was freaking out and not one of them ever experienced it before, so yeah, people are going to think they hear bombs when a huge building is coming apart after a terrorist attack.

[seekYEthetruth]

umm ..NO HE DID NOT!!!

[seekYEthetruth]

Go to the FBI's most wanted web page..

The have absolutely nothing on Osama Bin Dead For Years.. Not a single shred of evidence to link him to the crimes of 9/11. Controlled demo... Inside Job.

[seekYEthetruth]

Fake videos do NOT make a man guilty...

People got to stop believing politicians...WMD anybody?

[seekYEthetruth]

Google: Beijing Skyscraper Fire.

[seekYEthetruth]

PAID UP DISINFO OPERATE ON THIS THREAD

[seekYEthetruth]

No,no,no,I do NOT have to convince you of anything.

YOU will have to go away and prepare your thesis for and then gain a PEER REVIEW.

The time for chit chat on youtube threads is done.

The Nano Thermite revelations should lead to an IMMEDIATE and FULL investigation.

Maybe then you will get your answers.

Youtube Pentagon Attack Cab Driver Lloyde Engand's Virtual Confession. The Official theory is in tatters.

Good luck with your thesis.

[seekYEthetruth]

you talking to me?... You only have to Youtube: Neils Harrit- Danish Scientist. RE: WTC Dust Samples.

All questions answered there.

Pancake effect theory is dead in the water.

NANO - THERMITE DOESN'T MAKE PANCAKES

[seekYEthetruth]

But there is no argument jesus. Just scientific facts.

And an anonymous peer review..

The evidence is in... What's to argue about?

You say that 'I am the one' making claims..STFU you idiot.

The evidence is in. Unreacted Nano Thermite.

You need to contact Neils Harrit.

Shame on you. You are a cover up merchant..No soul and no backbone..

People like you are taking this planet into the darkness.

You lying $ellout

[hoi7423]

The tower felt in almost free case speed. That's impossible witht the pancake theory. That only could have been a controlled demolition. Should it not have stacked up itself below on the ground? How can be a tower which has the lower floors as an obstacle, equally fast how the falling down rubble which are in the free case?

[torba95]

Mohammed may only fuck you.If we are muslims it doesn`t mean that we are all terorists.I live in Bosnia but I also hate Bin Laden only for this.Next time hate him only please.

[warhead1254]

the next time they build tall buildings they should have anti-air craft guns around them honestly!!

[hoi7423]

controlled demolition

[RyanJ1977]

You are so ignorant if you think that is a controlled demolition.

[hoi7423]

look on the right side of the buildin...

CONTROLLED DEMOLITION...

sorry but that's the truth

[sejemk234]

same here americandroid

[pussiecyatdoll]

when 1 goes down, so does the other.

[spencerhill95]

I don't think, the tower collapsed because it was burning, it looks like it was blasted! I mean, the tower was not made of sand, or of paper, because than it would be normal, if it collapses after an explosion, but no strong material would fall down at once after a plane crashed in it, it would have been taken a while, maybe half an hour, but not 8minutes!

[waterattack]

@spencerhill95 Are you stupid? Any building being hit with over 50 tons of wieght, going at 800 kilometres an hour, the planes full speed even, will crumble in 8 minutes.That plane basicalyy did a bank andgle steep dive into the building.The amount of force impacte on those building, were lucky to last 8 minutes.Open your eyes, those to buildings fell around the same time.what are you thinking of, bombs? if they were gonna bomb, they wouldn't have used planes.

[johndobson01]

That is part of the reason why bombs implicate a conspiracy because the planes were used to appear as though terrorists caused the entire catastrophe, including the collapse. The only way terrorists could have done this was by hijacking planes, not by gaining access to three buildings and taking weeks to plant explosives. The top section of those buildings just would not crush 90000 tons of steel and still retain enough gravitational energy to accelerate near free-fall.

[waterattack]

@johndobson01 So you are telling me, that i was bombed?So the planes we're just there to make people think it was the planes?So tell me then, if that is the case,Why didn't the whitehouse (or where ever they were to hit with the forth plane) not get bombed?It's standing today.Standing and is not gone.Your theory is that the planes we're a diguise?If that's the case then the whitehouse or wahtever would not be standing.Therefor no bombs were planted and the planes were all the work.

[johndobson01]

@waterattack First of all, United 93 was heading in the direction of Washington DC when it crashed in Shanksville, we don't know which building it could have been headed for, maybe the capital building. Secondly they wouldn't set off bombs if the plane didn't hit its intended target, because that would incriminate the government. It may be possible that NORAD shot that plane down, because the FAA knew for at least a half an hour that it was hijacked, there is no way they didn't notify NORAD.

[waterattack]

@johndobson01 ok, you have a good point.But I have no way to proove it.Nor do you.One thing is for sure.It Was one of the worst disasters in history.And lets hope it never happens again!

[johndobson01]

@waterattack Yeah, you are right as well, I don't have conclusive proof to declare what exactly happened or who did it, but from the evidence I have seen, I think my suspicion in some element of the government, CIA and others in the intelligence empire, is warranted. I hope as well this doesn't happen again.

[AmericanDroid]

every signal time i see something that has to do with 9/11 my somach turns and i get sick then i have a feeling to seek revenge

[seekYEthetruth]

explosives. reverse sequence controlled demolition.

[poochickenone]

Sound moves slower the light, why do we here the collapse the same time we see it.

[cornskid]

Progressive collapse, You can see the air being forced out of the building.

[thestrugglewithin]

just LOOK at that!!! you can see that the building is being PULVERIZED before the supposed "pancake effect" is hitting down!

its got DEMOLITION all over it.

[seekYEthetruth]

your 100% right pause @ 0:04 dark grey squibs..

dark grey squibs means pulverized building materials..

looks like 60 floors down from the 'progressive collapse' EXPLOSIVES.