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  • Looks very very strange that it is possible to produce energy from such turbine, more than to light several LEDs...

    We know the subject, we know what we say.

    Well, now this "turbine" rotates without any generator, it's free rolling.

    Attached to generator - it is ENERGY, it need to WORK to produce energy (rotating frame in magnetic field)!

    Where is it?

    Send PROOFS that it works better, that any other turbines. But do not call "children propeller" as powerful wind turbine!

  • anyone tried___ w w w diymagneticmotor com ?

  • wow, little wind to operate! But wait, low wind still mean low energy. look up betz law. If you get 50W in winds of 5 m/s you get 1350 W in 15 m/s.

  • Dyocore has a 1.6 Kw 70 inch Small Wind turbine that is California Energy Commision approved for Roof top mount and it only needs small winds...its a entirely new electrical generator design and in medium winds one will put out 2.2 Kw.... put 5 on your roof and its a 10 Kw system and the price is minimal and its already working technology.....Nothing in the world can even come close to Dyocore right now.....NOTHING.

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  • I've made turbines similar to that and about the same size. My guess is that that one will produce about 20 Watts in a good wind. Is that a 1/10 scale prototype perhaps?

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  • where is the generator? anyone seen this or have an idea ...all it is a big ole spinning barrel ..no indication on how it converts to electricity?...

  • @centervilletn

    It works with a permanent magnet stator giving you AC output that will need to be rectified in DC for battery charging and then back to AC via Inverter.

  • Notice how Gramm doesn't offer the fact he did NOT invent this.

  • put solar panels on the blades of any wind turbine and get both powers at once and if one is not being used the other one is being used.kenneth van horn

  • Why not he says...Whack a few on the roof and save a few bikkies, piss the power companies off, and get pissed...

  • You can actually place wind turbine on the top of your house like an antenna. That's one good location that has an instant access with the wind. High locations are usually open air since there's nothing that blocks the wind. Aside form that, you can also place other turbines anywhere in your house for as long as there's no blockage in the said area. It's a good idea to have wind turbines within your house to be the main source of electricity. It's practical and can lessen your bill a lot.

  • Someone pleas kick the inventor hard from me, before he reinvents the square wheel.

  • @arolas And what have you invented eh Cecil? Nothing. You just sit around and pick your nose all day.

  • @zkxv bether no invention, than reinventing the windturbine, but doing it in an inefficiant way.

  • Please watch:

    World's Greatest Amount of Compression Ratio Engine

  • hi, nice video. Friends and Subscribers welcome if you want to have a look at my Home Wind/Solar Energy stuff. I won a Green Design Contest with my system on Earth Day. Have a look if you like.

  • But if the windmill was just vertical instead of horizontal it could catch wind from any direction. When it is horizontal like that it can only catch wind from a limited direction.

  • I HAVE AN OPINION. I'M POSTING A COMMENT. 

  • How do we purchase some of these? Who do we contact.

  • If only America was this smart...maybe someday we'll stop letting the rest of the world pass us by for greed and profit.

  • If it's so efficient and economical, then why is government money needed? $34k is nothing to an investor who sees profit potential in it. And homeowners would buy it and install it without government money, because of the money saved.

    So, apparently the economics aren't "there" yet. It must cost more than it generates in savings.

  • $700 for that piece of shitt, I could make that for $100 and spend the other $600 on a hooker

  • Tus pensamientos se convierten en tus palabras... Mantén tus pensamientos positivos porque tus pensamientos se convierten en tus palabras.

    Mantén tus palabras positivas porque tus palabras se convierten en tus acciones.

    Mantén tus acciones positivas porque tus acciones se convierten en tus hábitos.

    Mantén tus hábitos positivos porque tus hábitos se convierten en tus valores.

    Mantén tus valores positivos porque tus valores se convierten en tu destino.

    Mahatma Gandhi

  • Yeah, it's a sweet design,but does it produce any torque?Getting something to spin around in the wind is all good and fine,but if it doesn't turn out any torque, it's not much more than a pretty pinwheel....

  • what i just saw wont produce anything. where is the generator?

  • There's a much better solution out there. Search WINDENERGY7 Have a look at the RoofMill invention, that's a real system.

  • The key to this thing is what generator it will use. Thats what i want to see, as well as a video showing voltage and amps produced in a low wind speed as the inventer claims. Other than that its just a spinning barrel.

  • why not put them VERTICLY? this way it would harness wind from all directions. did i miss something there?

  • @cyberlord64 I think they are using the roof pitch as a way of directing the wind to the turbine, that way the turbine can function even on days of low wind.. well thats my understanding.. ?

  • A horizontal axis certainly solves bearing load problems at a cost of overall efficency.

  • Only 5 of these to power a house? Must live in a very very windy area.

  • $34,000 wasted hahahaha whats the Tip Speed Ratio hahaha

  • There's a wind turbine near where I live, it runs about 70 days out of the year...if it's windy every day it might work.

  • Wonder how many RPM it will do when it gets a wind that's not perpandicular to that shaft?

  • What type of generator will these things be using?

    What does the gear box look like?

    The lowest RPM I generator that I've been able to find runs at about 250 rpm. And I don't think device is running at 250 rpm with the requried tourqe that is needed.

    (generator was a 5kw unit. The smallest that I would mess with.)

  • If you use the newer Rooftop Mounted Turbines, you save HALF the cost of a system and install by not using the towers. The towers are the most time consuming and costly, wasteful part of a small wind turbine system. Have a look at my videos and you'll see what I mean. These are also way more noisey than other turbines.

  • one good thing about this kind of generator: they are near silent compared to a "real" propeller type! Ppl should have these, but dont think its an efficient machine!

  • Great video...I converted my home to a net-zero solar powered home that uses no oil or gas...I made a video about it called, "Preparing for Peak Oil"....

  • A government 'incentive' is so that the gov. knows who has a turbine so they can tax them for it. Gov. is not out to help anyone but themselves. Be wary.

  • Those suits didn't look really happy about the whole thing. Remember the big energy industry doesn't like competition, especially when people can have it for almost free. Dont sell it to the gov., you'll never see it on the market. Good luck and congratulations!

  • Is that David Bowie? Aha... But seriously, they are a good idea. However, I don't know that installing 5 of them on a roof would go down so well.

  • Renewable energy will capture a significant share of the world energy market over the next 20 year. The Department of Energy estimated that wind could account for 20% of U.S. power by 2030. Hence companies like Pacific Crest Transformers work with the wind energy sector. It offers various products for wind energy which include Grounding transformers, Wind Turbine Step-Up Transformers, Collector Step-Up Transformers, Dynamic VAR Compensation Systems Transformers.

  • The best concentration wind for a rooftop wind turbine is about 4 feet off the peak. So, there is much concentrated wind power that will go over this unit. Still, it's a better idea than vertical because vertical turbines have that backside resistance, as one side catches wind, the other is resisting wind..

  • $700 for one of these!?! WOW RIP OFF i can make one for probably like $30 just no motor witch wont cost $670

  • Great idea!

  • Cut your jibber jabber i ain't gettin on no plane...

  • Why not in vertical position? Crazy...

  • This is so cheap, it's perfect! And just wait and se. Even more amazingly cheap efficient tech is on the way ^^

  • "This design of wind turbine was patented by Georges Jean Marie Darrieus, a French aeronautical engineer in 1931"

    That's true but there's still no implementation to commercial wind power of any such designs. Any thoughts on why such a design with so many variations over the years but none succeeded the horizontal three blade design.

  • @SmallWindTurbines

    There have been many many attempts to commercialize these types of designs. The problem is that they are so inefficient that HAWT's crush them performance wise. If one does any research on the subject the reasons are painfully apparent. Sorry for the bad news. Don't shoot the messenger.

  • Yeah but this particular turbine design is probably VAWT because it works in conjunction with being on a roof top. although I would only use a VAWT Horizontal-Axis Wind Turbine in places were the wind changes direction a lot so not sure why it has to be put riight on their roofs close to the serface, maybe it is a law were they can't have something too high in the air who knows.

  • Your local "inventor" reinvented a Darrieus wing lift VAWT. Would be nice to give Darrieus a little credit. "The [Darrieus] turbine consists of a number of aerofoils usually--but not always--vertically mounted on a rotating shaft or framework. This design of wind turbine was patented by Georges Jean Marie Darrieus, a French aeronautical engineer in 1931."

  • Cool idea. The system pictured would only work in two directions. You need to harness wind in any direction right?

  • @WindEnergy7

    Just use it at a vertical angle...

  • @WindEnergy7 YOUTUBE: helix wind self-destruct

  • @WindEnergy7 the wind always comes from the west

  • @shawsk113 - You are correct. But here in the States the hot air keeps coming from Congress! LOL

  • @WindEnergy7 It would work great in my area where the prevailing wind was from one direction like the coast or something. Our wind comes frome the west 70% of the time. Im in.

  • @WindEnergy7 thats why they say 5 on a house would work

  • ppl i wnt to spain for 2 weeks and solar panels powered the house and the first night we ran out of electricity and your telling me 5 of those things are gona power a house....yes maybe if you put the tv into a rashans table...

  • at night theres no sun to powersolar panels ,so foiled attempt at discrediting. And all these ideas rely on batteries to store the energy therfore should be under research and development

  • Even if it powered half the household power usage, it's still a good thing. I don't think anyone would be prepared to remove their connection from the grid.

  • no way 5 of those will power a home.

  • as fast as this thing rotates, u may power a single lamp with 5 of them

    fail

  • In its current form, there is no attachment shown to any generator. This prototype is little more than a moving lawn ornament and very fragile looking. I wonder what type of noise levels the homeowner will hear when there are high winds and a generator is hooked up. I hope the ridge vent is well isolated from the noise of the final product.

  • one draw back it that it's dependent on wind direction....

  • you dont need $36,000 to build the prototype

    all you need is a barbecue grill and a welding torch

  • i like this one. i have been looking into verticals, but this roof top system looks even better.

  • you just told a lie.

  • cut the sides our of a 55gal drum. Put a alt. on it. Up on a stand. There you have it. Free energy.

  • might be a good idea to use a plastic drum to, might cut down on weight.

  • She's pretty damn hot that woman!

  • 5 of those a household? oh please!!

  • would be more efficient if it was vertical... I mean you should get less friction, some people were experimenting with a turbine here but it was vertical and standing on liquid or something like that

  • It's more stable in high winds as a horizontal installation, and with the right bearings you can easily cut down on friction.

  • I agree! But it was vertical on a magnetic field that suspended the weight of the turbine. ;)

    There is no generator on this turbine. Nothing new, these have been inside almost every AC unit and swamp cooler in the world. Commonly called a squirrel cage. Vertically, wind from any direction will spin it. Horizontally it is limited to only one direction unless you put a vertical pivot and a tail to direct it into the wind.

  • How would it be more efficient? Like, wouldn't the same effect be given considering nothing has changed to the unit itself? Instead of it rotating on two support-points, its now all supported on one point. its still the same amount of surface area and weight.

  • i'd be embarrassed to show that to any prospective customers or even on youtube.

    i think the guy is a scam artist.

  • What is it with ALL the low efficiency wind projects? It seems that an appreciable knowledge of aerodynamics has all but evaporated. I'm speechless.

    I am without speech.

    Mitch

  • How is this low-efficiency? This product takes no electricity to operate, and can help support a neighborhood grid.

  • not to mention it can save hundreds of dollars on your electricity bill

  • @Techstuf agree!! It does seem like ppl have no concept of what efficiency is. Just cos a thing rotates at low speed dont meanit can create lots of power. Or that it rotates for a long time w o force put on it! Its the work it can do that makes if efficient!!

  • It's much cheaper to build one yourself. If you want instructions on how to do it or if you have any questions, feel free to contact me. The same goes for anyone interested in building their own wind turbine.

  • Looks like all you need is a steel 55 gallon drum and a length of tubing, some bearings and a couple meters of speaker wire.

  • Have at it VU. Be sure and post your results here. We are salivating with anticipation.

  • Getting a government grant for THIS! almost amounts to fraud. How gullible can the government be?

  • vawts are known for low efficiency (about 30%)

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  • $700 to make? You really need to build on a shoestring like the rest of us. Try about a seventh of that.

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  • that turbine wont work, it doesnt even have a motor/ generator at the end of it... its just a piece of decorative metal, once you ad a motor to that to reciece the energy the forces of the motor. the push will limit the speed greatly with the wieght of this contraption they built

  • I think they have thought of that.

    I don't think the design will have much resistance.

    since it's designed to operate in low winds also, it will probably trickle small amounts of elctricity continuously, and larger amounts when the wind is higher.

    It's not any different than a wind mill except the design is more space efficient, and the physical shape allows it to operate in lower wind.

  • bec9112001: I agree. As it stands now it hardly moves. Add the magnets, or generator, and it will come to a almost standstill. This design is well known, what is new here?

  • I have seen this advertised in a bruchure at Home Depot. It gives a link to a European website(rather obscure). I will try to find it again and post it.

  • Why dont they put it vertical do it will be wind omni

  • Good idear!

  • thanks , but for some reason if you put a wind mill horizontel it works better but they could add a tail fin

  • because the thermals always blow the same direction.

  • all i want is something that produces 3- 5 kw/h on my roof, for under 10k, the more i look the more i begin to think i can make it for under 2k

  • You will never get 3-5kw/h out of 2k. You could get it out of 10k if you made a lot of the rigs yourself though.

  • never!! sounds like a challenge lol, but just how many would it take to get 3-5kw/h? i guess if it took away my electric bill, 10k really isnt that much

  • thekevdogdotcom/projects/wind_­generator/ maybe for under 1k

  • looks like you'd need close to 10 of those to get 1kw/h

  • true, hopefully i can find some 99vdc ametek motors

  • kW/h is a measure of energy, one kW/h equals to 3,6 megajoule. Perphaps you mean 3-5 kW/h per day, witch roughly equals to an average output of 170 watts. That is not much.

    If you instead mean an average output of 3-5 kW, that is a completely different story. In fact that is quite much for a micro powerplant, you will need to build a very large turbine to harness that much wind.

    If i would build a wind turbine i'd build it from scrap, and i should be able to build it for free. So can you.

  • 3-5 kwh per day is 1095-1825 kwh per year, means 1/3 to 2/3 of my E-energy consumption per year. That's in my view very good when this would with the shown windmill.

  • this is great but were are thy? at least keep up to date!!!!

  • Yes,ok,ok that,fine,whind power...da...but again..!!!! people magnet feeld !!! same thing but beter 100 thimes ...

  • The same old unanswerable question comes up on these innovations:  "Where can I buy one?". The answer is when the vested interests quit bribing, blackmailing or murdering those who try to market their free energy inventions. Okay, now back to world of reality.

  • The only good wind turbines. Any other monster is useless

  • Burn garbage for electricity

  • Why do you keep saying that? Are you serious?

  • Very serious. As an Engineer with a major power generation complany, I am well-aware of the "friendly" way to get the plant designed and operated without harming or discharging into the environment. It's a heck of alot better than burning coal (radioactive) and burying garbage.BTW, Germany has been burning the stuff for years w/o harm and getting mws!

  • But burning garbage would release carbon dioxide. Or is "Burn garbage" a simple way to describe a more complex process.

  • First CO2 is always a combustion byproduct.SCR would mitigate that. There als other pollutants that are mitigated. BTW-short of NOT using electricity, there is no simple solution. I for one want to be able to flick the switch and get power. Green stuff won't get you very far, esp here in the northeast US

  • A combination of wind, wave, tidal, hydro, geothermal and solar energy would be able to power not only the US but the entire world with research. This will only become easier as the technologies that require electricity become more energy efficient.

  • So what would you do with garbage as a fuel??? Do you understand?

  • Carbon DIOXIDE? Don't you mean carbon MONOXIDE? Please do not embarrass yourself an longer by speaking of things you know nothing about.

  • Burning garbage or fossil fuels releases carbon dioxide.

  • you shouldn't be so quick to judge either. Combustion with any amount of carbon will yield Carbon Dioxide and Monoxide depending on the temperature of the reaction, substance etc. Both would be found in various concentrations. Generally Carbon Dioxide is most common

  • Agree with you. It's carbon monoxide.

  • Can you slow cook ribs in that thing?

  • just hook up a small electric motor to it, and have it run like a car, continuously running, and the motor is always on because it make a loop

  • Well I don't see anything hanging off it to actaully produce the power. I suspect that drag will decrease the kinetic energy. I also wonder what noise 5 of these things on a roof would make!

  • If anyone knows a page with the specs and/or where you can buy one...send me a message PLEASE

  • that design would be directional anyways.

  • 700 Bucks is way too much, Id bet u cound build that thing with a 2 hundred dollar trip to home depot, charger and all.

  • No its not! 3500 to power your whole house. some cost that much for 1 crappy one.

  • my pre-commentator is right, you'll need way more cross section to produce adequate power. That little sucker might produce 10 watts at best ... an average usage of 10000kw/h per year can never be fullfilled by that one, not by five and not by ten either ...

  • Fantastic! How can I buy or build one?

  • I'm not sure this inventor even has a plant building these, much less exporting them to the US. Just because he's applied for a patent does not mean the invention works.

    To build one yourself, you should be able to follow his patent application. A good patent should be able to teach his invention to others skilled in the craft of building one.

    Google for his WIPO Patent Application WO/2008/067593 or follow this link:

    tinyurl . com / 694jf6

    after removing all the spaces.

  • It slices, it dices ... but wait! There's more! with this tiny attachment...

    his invention also claims that it will make hot water for you by feeding water through the horizontal axis of the windmill.

  • Looks great, but I did not see any load on it such as an alternator or generator or Gears required. What is the amount of power you expect for a 36 inch diameter drum 4 or 5 feet long? Is there any stats or power curves availible? You should post them.

  • I'm not so quick to buy his numbers. An average household as a rule of thumb uses about 9000 kWh a year, or about 1 kW every hour. The news reporter says 5 of these will supply that. I am not so quick to buy those numbers given the small cross section of his windmill and the fact it is fixed horizontally to work with one or two major wind directions. Someone may have forgotten the capacity factor in their calculation.

    And yes, I see no means of collecting it.

  • In Finland the average household of 2 persons uses 2000 kWh a year. That is 200W on the average. 9000 kWh is totally irresponsible. What country has such numbers?

  • Average households here in the US have 2 adults and 2.3 children, a house that is 180-200 square meters and having all electric appliances (water heater, stove, oven, refrigerator...) except for the furnace. Typically we use natural gas in our heating systems.

    I am single and have two children in a small townhouse. My average utility bill is for 180KWh electric and 18 therms of natural gas.

    We keep the heat low in the winter, we turn off lights (all fluorescent and LED) and TV when not used

  • Some people's homes in the US are much larger than mine. Also, many of them are not as well insulated. Although we are much further north (47 deg lat) than most people in the US, some areas are much colder than Washington State (such as the Dakotas).

    I plan on adding insulation to my attic this spring, when I can afford it.

    What tricks do you use to conserve energy?

  • It's a cool turbine, except how do you patent a Darrieus wind turbine invented back in 1931 by French inventor Georges Darrieus? It's just one more Darrieus variant. Maybe it's day has finally come.

  • Patents expire in 17 years. You have to significantly improve or alter the state of the art to get patent protection. In return for the claims, the patent includes a spec that teaches readers of the patents the extensions to the state of the art.

  • Not sure what improvement they could cite on this patent beyond what Darrieus already did. I suppose that exact design could be protected much like Ford can't just make exact replicas of a Toyota. But they are both a still just cars. And this is just another Darrieus turbine.

  • Ahhh but this is a horizontal Gyromill. The Darrieus has vertical curved blades, the Gyromill has vertical blades.

    Wikipedia has a good article on this: "Darrieus wind turbine"

    But essentially, the overall concept of most wind turbines has been patented a long time ago and therefore in the public domain already. Things I can think of that can be patented are improvements of efficiency such as airfoil enhancements, and bearings at each side and maybe methods for attaching it.

  • The obvious drawback with the Darrieus and Gyromill is that scaling the turbine probably does not result in any n^2 gains, but only n gains where n is the length of the blade. With a doubling of the blade length, the radial windmills get a 4x gain in power. For these, it's linear.

    My homeowner's association would not like these any better. If they could just make them look like satellite dishes LOL.

  • "Things I can think of that can be patented are improvements of efficiency such as airfoil enhancements, and bearings at each side and maybe methods for attaching it."

    Well that's true. However, that would have to be a bearing or wing patent not a wind turbine patent.

    This gyromill still just uses wing lift exactly like a Darrieus Turbine. Putting on it's side is merely a new application not a new invention.

  • Google for "WIPO Patent Application WO/2008/067593"

    The base claim is a novel airfoil. The rest is a horizontal Gyromill.

    "1. A wind turbine apparatus characterised by a plurality of elongated turbine blades rotatably mounted about an elongated axis, each turbine blade having an aerofoil shaped profile with a continuously curved outer foil surface and a cupped or cutaway portion on an inner foil surface."

  • Notice this is a Patent Application and that it has no patent been granted yet. The queue is several years long. The spec does not really explain why the airfoil is novel over previous inventions. My guess is that the Patent examiner may determine that there is nothing novel.

  • can i use a car alternator the way it is for a wind turbine

  • Yes. Any method you can find to make a car alternator spin will make it produce power. The same holds true for any electric motor. With a car alternator, however, a commutator is used internally to convert the output to dc, in this case 12 volts.

  • Yes, use an wind-powered alternator, a charge regulator, a set of deep-discharge batteries and an inverter to power your 110v AC stuff.

  • 5 of thease and a S.M.A.R.T energy bank per house and u have no more energy crisis

  • Are they available in US?

  • Sadly no, since the US has a different kind of wind, thus its uneconomical to run it there. we are building an alternative version of the device that is compatible with your standards.

  • Are you fucking me? A DIFFERENT KIND OF WIND? im pretty sure WIND IS THE SAME! ANYWHERE

  • You are so dumb. Its a joke.

  • It's quite the opposite. In 1991, a national wind resource inventory taken by the U.S. Department of Energy startled the world when it reported that the three most wind-rich

    states — North Dakota, Kansas, and Texas. In these states, wind is actually very reliable and can be used to provide power at a much lower cost than nuclear power.

  • Here's an idea for anyone willing to make their own. Attach the frame that holds the turbine to a pole with bearings, that way it turns to catch the wind from whichever direction it's coming from.

  • or simply arrange it vertically

  • That's what i was implying, sorry. Attach this turbine, vertically, to a pole, use some high-speed-low-friction bearings and it will catch the wind from any direction. Why they decided to implement this turbine horizontally is beyond me.

  • I've got a few films tackling various issues on wind power...

    And please do pass the link around :)

  • Let's put some along the eave and have a dual-mode water/wind mill.