I've heard that Mikael Akerfeldt helped with the vocals with Katatonia, if that him singing over Jonas during the part saying "I Will find a way/To sever myself/"etc?
I'm not completly sure, but I only think he was on Brave Murder Day (where he did the growl part). But he has helped lots of swedish bands eg. Edge of Sanity, he is a cool guy :p
@pineapplepeanuts Yes, Mikael helped Katatonia in Brave Murder Day and Sounds of Decay with growling vocals. The backing vocals are usually done by Jonas Renkse himself or by their guitarist Anders Nyrström.
if you "dislike" this, you most likely have issues stemming from an overcompensation for your sexuality, which you have a hard time coming to grips with.
@Triarity ive got a massive box of CDs and another of plastic vinyl, old Stones LPs etc. I find YT better, the range is vast and it costs less overall. Also there are rare recordings. In the old days Hendrix bootlegs cost a fortune and had to be got from overseas
Hey everybody! I just released my solo album "Mirror Image" that contains electronic upbeat and ambient songs heavily inspired by Katatonia and the music of Anders Nystrom and Jonas Renkse (including October Tide and Diabolical Masquerade). If you're interested you can check out the songs on my youtube page, and links to my myspace page and places to download the full album are on my youtube channel as well :) .
I still love this tune. I'll never get sick of any of their stuff through to Last Fair Deal. LFDGD was the album the kids should have listened to instead of the Linkin Parkstreet Boys. Suckers all thought that LP was really heavy and extreme, but the real innovators were out there making true depressing, dark and powerful music. It's such a shame they chose to ape the mainstream to try for a bit more commercial success & Drowning Pool and Soil fans got impressed by how "heavy" Katatonia went!
I Break Sounds of imbalance Sleeps through the never The artificial lightsource Is creeping with flies And this time i break I will never make Another day Defiant to what's delivered I will find a way To sever myself Exit all today You can't see this Did you ever say I break sever I will find a way Visit me when i'm there The weakness of hope Is the strength of decline Remember what's past ways And what i've become The joy of not being Something i need I'm only weather But only to me
the weakness of hope is the strength of decline...This song is as dark and desperate as im feelling now so that i listen to it nearly everyday...thanks for posting....
if you all have such poor opinions why are you here listening? reliving your glory days you will never have again? no matter how much you whine you too will be gone like your old memories. your opinions shall not withstand that blackened grave.
@mikedeg13 That all depends on what becomes recorded history and what doesn't. You don't get to decide as such. Your certainty will not withstand the grave, but the rest is down to time and circumstance.
Damn this album came out and i listened to it ín 1996.the time i met the girl which has broken my heart.after this album they´re getting better with each one.drumming and lead guitar are kicking me everytime i listen to them.
Hahaha Night is the new day have not even got one of those nu metal riffs you talk about.
You are right that some of the songs on Viva and TGCD has got some nu metal influence, but there is much more depressive rock influence on them either way.
The lyrics on example Leaders is much better than any nu metal songs ever and the guitars and drums are fucking heavy
Forsaker sounds like Nu-metal with the meshuggah riff, and whilst the lyrics on katatonia songs might be better than the average nu-metal, it is not exactly a tough challenge. The lyrics on Criminals and Ghost of the sun were fucking trite though. The whole " I trusted you..you lied.." lines sound like Papa Roach or any other weak nu-metal crap.
That aside, the albums before VE remain far and away some of the most unique, depressing and powerful music ever written. I salute them for that.
Since when has Meshuggah been nu metal? If you even thought about it VE is a concept album about the mafia.
I agree about Ghost of the sun it is really Nu metallish, but still awesome. But have you even heard TGCD because lots of stuff on that album is quite depressive and powerful.
I have heard TGCD and it's never grabbed me like DO, TD and LFDGD, because there just isn't a track that can match the tunes from those albums. There's not one that's the equal of Right Into The Bliss, Dispossession, I transpire, Sulfur or any of the tracks of Discouraged Ones.
The meshuggah-y riff just sounds like Nu-metal because it doesn't have the complexity of meshuggah. See Mudvayne for further examples of why that = nu-metal.
hilarious!! Um... Meatloaf is Hard Rock, ACDC, Whitesnake, Deep Purple etc.
Papa Roach write weak lyrics about cutting themselves and all the other teenage angst stereotype crap. And they rap it. That and their image makes them about the most clear cut case of Nu-metal other than Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park.
The only decent nu-metal bands were the originators, Korn and the Deftones. I don't even like Korn particularly but at least they had their own sound and didn't look like a boyband!
haha papa roach doesnt do rap vocals anymore..go on wikipedia and you will see what genre they are,,..hard rock period..they were never nu metal band,,just punk rock band with rap vocals in 2000
I agree with you on every level. The lyrics went to shit with VE, you might think they changed their writer. And the new songs aren't melodically, or atmospherically close to this one for example
@darkbarrage99 So Limp Bizkit and Disturbed are Post Grunge? I think not.
I'll stick with pretending to know that Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, Soil, Static X, Sevendust, Mudvayne, Coal Chamber and Papa Roach, were all essentially just exercises in marketing and business, with scant regard to creativity nor musical integrity.
It came at a time when the boyband dollar had been milked dry, so its pretty clear where the majors went for their next stripmine excavation project
ahahaha, go look it up douche bag, it is. bands like korn, disturbed, slipcock and otep all base their bigger influences from old catchy grunge tunes. but you are right about what you're saying, I just wouldn't call any of what katatonia has done nu metal, except maybe some select stuff from the great cold distance and night is the new day. maybe just semi inventive gothrock with really bad lyrics at their worst; going the direction of the European commercialist approach.
@darkbarrage99 but that's the thing, the commercialist approach they took was trying to ape American bands and get some of that money. That involved playing up all the rhythmical strumming and playing down all the funereal Blakheim riffs that were really what made them stand head and shoulders above the rest. No one had that level of atmosphere, and they spunked it down the toilet in favour of nu-cliches.
@Demondust666 Virgin Emo should have been the title of the album Viva Emptiness.
Not really sure what you're basing your opinion on considering you're supposed to be into the underground and true metal. I like the album Discouraged Ones. It's one of my favourites.
@SA3LLARX I don't compare Meshuggah with Papa Roach or Disturbed, but Katatonia were clearly influenced by these kinds of bands when it came to writing VE. They ditched the Blakheim riffs and made the songs more rhythm/groove-based, with downtuned chuggy riffs. That is what nu-metal does. At it's worst it's the corporate co-opt of metal, watered down, commercialised, given a slick production and package and mass-marketed to suckers or people new to the genre that don't get it yet.
@crosboid What?! Katatonia influenced by Papa Roach and Disturbed?! By nu metal?! Are you insane?! You think the downtuned riffs are invented by nu metal bands?! Perhaps you've never heard of alternative rock and metal and grunge from the '80s - there's where the downtuned riffs were made. And Katatonia has begun as doom metal band and are mainly influenced by bands like Paradise Lost, Anathema and My Dying Bride. And that's happened years before nu-metal came for life. Don't talk bullshit!
@fov200 FYI The drummer that joined circa Last Fair Deal (might have been after, not sure) cited Disturbed as one of his top bands. Then their site got scrapped and remade and the info was removed.
I already know the connection Katatonia had with the bands you mention. Unfortunately they decided to choose adding sounds that gave them a "Nu" edge in order to attempt to draw the nu-metal crowds interest instead of progression through developing their existing sound. PL tried that and gave it up.
@crosboid I'm sorry, but what's nu metal and nu metal sound anyway? I don't care much about genres, but I know one thing for sure - there is no such thing as nu metal to me. The same with metalcore and emo. I know also that I can't stand the bands, considered to be nu metal, but I love Katatonia. And none of my friends nu metalers are listening to Katatonia, but all of my friends doom or gothic metalers loves them. And that thing with the drummer doesn't mean anything - he is not the composer.
@fov200 Nu metal sound varies but the majority of sounds typical to the genre stemmed from the kind of sound sepultura came out with circa Roots, and Korn, Coal Chamber, and all the rest continued. Basically, Korn popularised the simplified groove riffing (chuugy repetitive down tuned rythmic riffs) and bands like Coal Chamber simplified it.
When a band has a sound and particular themic forte's, such as blakkheim's doomy lead riffs in the case of Katatonia, and don't feature sounds typical...
@fov200 ..(contd) to the nu-metal genre, then it appears like bandwagon jumping when they suddenly add droney, downtuned rhythmic riffing whilst heavily toning-down most of the other features.
Even more so when the lyrics start to do similar things, and add screamed backing tracks to the pre-chorus sections. The opener on Viva is pretty much a solid example of this. Lacuna Coil did the same thing with Karmacode. They were attempting to get something back from the scene that cloned their sound.
@crosboid Dude, I really wonder why there are so much people so concerned about genres. Do you really think that a use of (little) bit different guitar riffs means creating an entire genre? Music is for listening and feeling, not for thinking about it and classifying it. And I'm sick of all that spliting of metal on genres, subgenres, styles, and more, and more... In my oppinion the only one who could say what kind of music someone is making - is only that someone.
@crosboid I don't comment much on videos in Youtube. The only reason to comment on that video is because to say Katatonia are influenced in their music by nu metal is a kind of nonesense and a kind of insult to them and their fans. I hope you understand what I mean. No offence - nothing personal. :)
@crosboid I personally can describe their music as something between doom, gothic, alternative and psychedelic rock and metal. I have listened to some Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Papa Roach and Korn stuff. And I don't see, hear or feel anything in Katatonia's music similar to those bands.
Disagreed. After Last fair Deal they pissed all the work they'd done defining and perfecting their own unique style completely up the wall just to sound more like other commercial bands. The only saving grace is that they still play their old material when they tour. It must seem really disjointed to hear such original songs played up against comparatively generic nu-esque tunes.
Well I did only put some of the lyrics on and didn't finish because I was too tired. The rest will come on the movie someday when I feel like doing it
this is fantastic
helenri13 2 weeks ago
I hear the songs from youtube, and when i got the money, i try to buy the CDs, i like to support the bands i love.
Radnoz 3 weeks ago
One of the best band of the world.
Katatonia : Brave Murder Band!
Die8719 2 months ago
lets go
fuji091 3 months ago
Apparently in the chorus of this song Anders sings lead vocals and Mikael Akerfeldt does the harmonies.
aformidablefoe 3 months ago
fuck 2 dislikers
aboozarkhadivi 3 months ago
I've heard that Mikael Akerfeldt helped with the vocals with Katatonia, if that him singing over Jonas during the part saying "I Will find a way/To sever myself/"etc?
pineapplepeanuts 5 months ago
@pineapplepeanuts
I'm not completly sure, but I only think he was on Brave Murder Day (where he did the growl part). But he has helped lots of swedish bands eg. Edge of Sanity, he is a cool guy :p
Kermitkrigsfrog 5 months ago
@Kermitkrigsfrog
You're right. Mikael was only on Brave Murder Day. All the vocals on this album were done by Jonas.
AFanOfAmbience 5 months ago
@Kermitkrigsfrog Akerfeldt is also on Sounds of Decay.
HexetaDemonica 2 months ago
@pineapplepeanuts mikael was only in brave murder day and in the sounds of decay EP
9rmetal 4 months ago
@pineapplepeanuts Yes, Mikael helped Katatonia in Brave Murder Day and Sounds of Decay with growling vocals. The backing vocals are usually done by Jonas Renkse himself or by their guitarist Anders Nyrström.
Mictlanmatini 4 months ago
>That feel when you don't want to go to sleep because it makes tomorrow come even sooner. You only wish going to sleep and never waking up again.
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peterlazy 6 months ago
i would like to see Renkse on drums ...
TheHitsugaya32 6 months ago
if you "dislike" this, you most likely have issues stemming from an overcompensation for your sexuality, which you have a hard time coming to grips with.
shitnrun 7 months ago
puta album foda!
avschaves 9 months ago
4 days and I'll see them live :)
nightesence 9 months ago
one of my favorite song!great album!
speedy21884 9 months ago
I love the overall apathetic feel of this album.
Loliciousfuga 10 months ago
this album brings a very intense autumn like wintery dark feeling ITS AWESOME
sianide1134 11 months ago 2
this is my new favourite song! :)))
EvelineHanska 11 months ago
genial, no puedo parar de escucharla.
wakabayahithebest 1 year ago
my 1st cover...
viktor777666 1 year ago
Just discovering this band, amazing stuff.
notmrbill 1 year ago 2
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buy their albums lol no need mate it's all on you tube
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 1 year ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY
Well you are not supporting the band with that attitude anyway :)
But sure it's all here, but personally I prefer to hear it in better quality on cd or vinyl.
But well it's your own choice of course :)
Kermitkrigsfrog 1 year ago 28
@Kermitkrigsfrog Vinyl master race reporting in.
MrVictiln 7 months ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY I buy as many CDs as I can, because I like them. I listen a lot of music on youtube though, sometimes even those songs I own.
Triarity 1 year ago
@Triarity ive got a massive box of CDs and another of plastic vinyl, old Stones LPs etc. I find YT better, the range is vast and it costs less overall. Also there are rare recordings. In the old days Hendrix bootlegs cost a fortune and had to be got from overseas
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 1 year ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY
And all the food I need is in your fridge.
SimonJHarpham 11 months ago
@SimonJHarpham we are vegetarians, you may have to suffice with a beansprout sandwich
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 11 months ago
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Hey everybody! I just released my solo album "Mirror Image" that contains electronic upbeat and ambient songs heavily inspired by Katatonia and the music of Anders Nystrom and Jonas Renkse (including October Tide and Diabolical Masquerade). If you're interested you can check out the songs on my youtube page, and links to my myspace page and places to download the full album are on my youtube channel as well :) .
ORTmusic 1 year ago
Fuck... this is the first time i've listened to katatonia,, i'm in love with it & i'm raping the replay button...
midnightsuicider 1 year ago
"The joy of not being" sums up everything i want in this life, i hope after death i will not be anymore, at least in a conscious way.
lvsitiwdr 1 year ago
Really like this song but I'm most into DoDS album
lolroflhehe 1 year ago 2
I still love this tune. I'll never get sick of any of their stuff through to Last Fair Deal. LFDGD was the album the kids should have listened to instead of the Linkin Parkstreet Boys. Suckers all thought that LP was really heavy and extreme, but the real innovators were out there making true depressing, dark and powerful music. It's such a shame they chose to ape the mainstream to try for a bit more commercial success & Drowning Pool and Soil fans got impressed by how "heavy" Katatonia went!
crosboid 1 year ago 4
Really depressive and beautiful at the same time!
linkinn18 1 year ago 2
this is not new metal ¬¬
Troyaarseth 1 year ago
Xythras1 1 year ago
hmm i find that most of katatonia lyrics are really good except some are lame, but thats not really even worth mentioning, same with their music.
nathaniel518857 1 year ago
yeha good song
shaydth 1 year ago
best band ever, haters can exit life now.
Demondust666 1 year ago
cold gothic
MrXull 1 year ago
the weakness of hope is the strength of decline...This song is as dark and desperate as im feelling now so that i listen to it nearly everyday...thanks for posting....
lvsitiwdr 1 year ago
discouraged ones - their best record!!!
goranRo 2 years ago 12
@goranRo, well said
Solon1 3 months ago
@goranRo totally agree with you
anathema16766 1 month ago
@goranRo And Brave Murder Day to!
shadowlink2000000009 1 day ago
Discouraged One contains the best doom metal ever
PanagosGr33kG134EVER 2 years ago
@PanagosGr33kG134EVER this is not doom metal more towards gothic/alternative...doom needs riffs...
7zuma7 2 weeks ago
@7zuma7
I agree that this is more towards gothic and alternative than doom, but I do not agree that this song hasn't got riffs.....
Kermitkrigsfrog 2 weeks ago
the lyrics on here are so much more deeper...well this whole album.....like hes is looking in a mirror and thinking...
antivivisect 2 years ago 2
i would rather go to school and cause other people to die than rather leave me alone to die.
crazyfaggotkiller 2 years ago
i need this cd all there songs are awesome
BDean97 2 years ago 7
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Wyrd's cover of this ssong is much beter... :-/
dvojplisen 2 years ago
I don't hope you are serious with that statement :S
Kermitkrigsfrog 2 years ago 6
if you all have such poor opinions why are you here listening? reliving your glory days you will never have again? no matter how much you whine you too will be gone like your old memories. your opinions shall not withstand that blackened grave.
mikedeg13 2 years ago
@mikedeg13 That all depends on what becomes recorded history and what doesn't. You don't get to decide as such. Your certainty will not withstand the grave, but the rest is down to time and circumstance.
crosboid 1 year ago
I rather die then go to school tomorrow..
aviator1223 2 years ago 3
to prwto p akousa !
:D
mixalisatreides 2 years ago
Really nice video, good timing on the lyrics thanks for sharing :P OH love Katatonia by the way!
Ibbey3000 2 years ago
Damn this album came out and i listened to it ín 1996.the time i met the girl which has broken my heart.after this album they´re getting better with each one.drumming and lead guitar are kicking me everytime i listen to them.
stonebasse 2 years ago 3
This album came out in 1998, Brave Murder Day came out in 1996. And yes this song fucking kills.
EnvenomingSanctity 2 years ago
One of the best pieces ever writen
WhiteAngelofSorrow 2 years ago 4
THIS is autumn... THIS is depression,..THIS is hopeless......
Outstanding for a million of tears....in the dark....
Hellfukker666 2 years ago 44
Fucking spot on.
This opener is one of the most awesome intro's to an album I could ever wish for.
The rest of it too....just incredible.
crosboid 2 years ago
awesome song, awesome album artwork, awesome lyrics, awesome everything
skateNappreciate 2 years ago 5
great great song..could have sold millions if anyone heard it
arkee71 2 years ago 5
yeah... shame they went to shit on Viva emptiness and started apeing numetal in the hope of increasing audience numbers.
crosboid 2 years ago
@crosboid
Hahaha Night is the new day have not even got one of those nu metal riffs you talk about.
You are right that some of the songs on Viva and TGCD has got some nu metal influence, but there is much more depressive rock influence on them either way.
The lyrics on example Leaders is much better than any nu metal songs ever and the guitars and drums are fucking heavy
Kermitkrigsfrog 2 years ago
Forsaker sounds like Nu-metal with the meshuggah riff, and whilst the lyrics on katatonia songs might be better than the average nu-metal, it is not exactly a tough challenge. The lyrics on Criminals and Ghost of the sun were fucking trite though. The whole " I trusted you..you lied.." lines sound like Papa Roach or any other weak nu-metal crap.
That aside, the albums before VE remain far and away some of the most unique, depressing and powerful music ever written. I salute them for that.
crosboid 2 years ago
@crosboid
Since when has Meshuggah been nu metal? If you even thought about it VE is a concept album about the mafia.
I agree about Ghost of the sun it is really Nu metallish, but still awesome. But have you even heard TGCD because lots of stuff on that album is quite depressive and powerful.
Kermitkrigsfrog 2 years ago
I have heard TGCD and it's never grabbed me like DO, TD and LFDGD, because there just isn't a track that can match the tunes from those albums. There's not one that's the equal of Right Into The Bliss, Dispossession, I transpire, Sulfur or any of the tracks of Discouraged Ones.
The meshuggah-y riff just sounds like Nu-metal because it doesn't have the complexity of meshuggah. See Mudvayne for further examples of why that = nu-metal.
crosboid 2 years ago
papa roach is hard rock asshole
goranRo 2 years ago
hilarious!! Um... Meatloaf is Hard Rock, ACDC, Whitesnake, Deep Purple etc.
Papa Roach write weak lyrics about cutting themselves and all the other teenage angst stereotype crap. And they rap it. That and their image makes them about the most clear cut case of Nu-metal other than Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park.
The only decent nu-metal bands were the originators, Korn and the Deftones. I don't even like Korn particularly but at least they had their own sound and didn't look like a boyband!
crosboid 2 years ago 3
haha papa roach doesnt do rap vocals anymore..go on wikipedia and you will see what genre they are,,..hard rock period..they were never nu metal band,,just punk rock band with rap vocals in 2000
goranRo 2 years ago
@goranRo wikpedia? xD
I could have written that ;p
jaaphoofd 2 years ago
@crosboid
I agree with you on every level. The lyrics went to shit with VE, you might think they changed their writer. And the new songs aren't melodically, or atmospherically close to this one for example
Taunt61 1 year ago
@crosboid
hey dumbass, nu metal is just another name for post grunge, get it right before you pretend to know what your talking about
darkbarrage99 1 year ago
@darkbarrage99 So Limp Bizkit and Disturbed are Post Grunge? I think not.
I'll stick with pretending to know that Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, Soil, Static X, Sevendust, Mudvayne, Coal Chamber and Papa Roach, were all essentially just exercises in marketing and business, with scant regard to creativity nor musical integrity.
It came at a time when the boyband dollar had been milked dry, so its pretty clear where the majors went for their next stripmine excavation project
crosboid 1 year ago
@crosboid
ahahaha, go look it up douche bag, it is. bands like korn, disturbed, slipcock and otep all base their bigger influences from old catchy grunge tunes. but you are right about what you're saying, I just wouldn't call any of what katatonia has done nu metal, except maybe some select stuff from the great cold distance and night is the new day. maybe just semi inventive gothrock with really bad lyrics at their worst; going the direction of the European commercialist approach.
darkbarrage99 1 year ago
@darkbarrage99 but that's the thing, the commercialist approach they took was trying to ape American bands and get some of that money. That involved playing up all the rhythmical strumming and playing down all the funereal Blakheim riffs that were really what made them stand head and shoulders above the rest. No one had that level of atmosphere, and they spunked it down the toilet in favour of nu-cliches.
crosboid 1 year ago
@crosboid dumb,fag,ugly. thats what you are. for life. no one can bother even. virgin emo.
Demondust666 1 year ago
@Demondust666 Virgin Emo should have been the title of the album Viva Emptiness.
Not really sure what you're basing your opinion on considering you're supposed to be into the underground and true metal. I like the album Discouraged Ones. It's one of my favourites.
crosboid 1 year ago
@crosboid I don't see how you could even compare Katatonia to Papa Roach.
I'm sorry, but that's the worst comparison I ever heard. It's like comparing Justin Bieber to Finntroll.
13thAng3l 1 year ago
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SA3LLARX 1 year ago
@SA3LLARX I don't compare Meshuggah with Papa Roach or Disturbed, but Katatonia were clearly influenced by these kinds of bands when it came to writing VE. They ditched the Blakheim riffs and made the songs more rhythm/groove-based, with downtuned chuggy riffs. That is what nu-metal does. At it's worst it's the corporate co-opt of metal, watered down, commercialised, given a slick production and package and mass-marketed to suckers or people new to the genre that don't get it yet.
crosboid 1 year ago
@crosboid Maybe Meshuggah I could see, but definitely not Papa roach..?
ParanoidBerserker 1 year ago
@crosboid What?! Katatonia influenced by Papa Roach and Disturbed?! By nu metal?! Are you insane?! You think the downtuned riffs are invented by nu metal bands?! Perhaps you've never heard of alternative rock and metal and grunge from the '80s - there's where the downtuned riffs were made. And Katatonia has begun as doom metal band and are mainly influenced by bands like Paradise Lost, Anathema and My Dying Bride. And that's happened years before nu-metal came for life. Don't talk bullshit!
fov200 1 year ago
@fov200 FYI The drummer that joined circa Last Fair Deal (might have been after, not sure) cited Disturbed as one of his top bands. Then their site got scrapped and remade and the info was removed.
I already know the connection Katatonia had with the bands you mention. Unfortunately they decided to choose adding sounds that gave them a "Nu" edge in order to attempt to draw the nu-metal crowds interest instead of progression through developing their existing sound. PL tried that and gave it up.
crosboid 1 year ago
@crosboid I'm sorry, but what's nu metal and nu metal sound anyway? I don't care much about genres, but I know one thing for sure - there is no such thing as nu metal to me. The same with metalcore and emo. I know also that I can't stand the bands, considered to be nu metal, but I love Katatonia. And none of my friends nu metalers are listening to Katatonia, but all of my friends doom or gothic metalers loves them. And that thing with the drummer doesn't mean anything - he is not the composer.
fov200 1 year ago
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fov200 1 year ago
@fov200 Nu metal sound varies but the majority of sounds typical to the genre stemmed from the kind of sound sepultura came out with circa Roots, and Korn, Coal Chamber, and all the rest continued. Basically, Korn popularised the simplified groove riffing (chuugy repetitive down tuned rythmic riffs) and bands like Coal Chamber simplified it.
When a band has a sound and particular themic forte's, such as blakkheim's doomy lead riffs in the case of Katatonia, and don't feature sounds typical...
crosboid 1 year ago
@fov200 ..(contd) to the nu-metal genre, then it appears like bandwagon jumping when they suddenly add droney, downtuned rhythmic riffing whilst heavily toning-down most of the other features.
Even more so when the lyrics start to do similar things, and add screamed backing tracks to the pre-chorus sections. The opener on Viva is pretty much a solid example of this. Lacuna Coil did the same thing with Karmacode. They were attempting to get something back from the scene that cloned their sound.
crosboid 1 year ago
@crosboid Dude, I really wonder why there are so much people so concerned about genres. Do you really think that a use of (little) bit different guitar riffs means creating an entire genre? Music is for listening and feeling, not for thinking about it and classifying it. And I'm sick of all that spliting of metal on genres, subgenres, styles, and more, and more... In my oppinion the only one who could say what kind of music someone is making - is only that someone.
fov200 1 year ago 2
@crosboid I don't comment much on videos in Youtube. The only reason to comment on that video is because to say Katatonia are influenced in their music by nu metal is a kind of nonesense and a kind of insult to them and their fans. I hope you understand what I mean. No offence - nothing personal. :)
fov200 1 year ago 2
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fov200 1 year ago
@crosboid I personally can describe their music as something between doom, gothic, alternative and psychedelic rock and metal. I have listened to some Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Papa Roach and Korn stuff. And I don't see, hear or feel anything in Katatonia's music similar to those bands.
fov200 1 year ago
''The weakness of hope... Is the strenght of decline''
These lyrics are tattooed on my skin..Most beautiful lyrics I've ever heard in my life !
OcToBeR321 2 years ago 7
I hope for your sake you spelled "strength" correctly on your skin.
T3hMilkman 2 years ago 11
lol yes
OcToBeR321 2 years ago
Awesome! And so sorrowfull, and the lyrics just fits it so much!
lvsitiwdr 2 years ago 2
i love the latter katatonia style just as much as the former
boomershadow 2 years ago
Agreed.
WeakHeadphones 2 years ago
Disagreed. After Last fair Deal they pissed all the work they'd done defining and perfecting their own unique style completely up the wall just to sound more like other commercial bands. The only saving grace is that they still play their old material when they tour. It must seem really disjointed to hear such original songs played up against comparatively generic nu-esque tunes.
crosboid 2 years ago
really one of the best song i ever heard.... fuckin full of feelings..
UrukHai999 2 years ago 4
great. but some lyrics are lost
totengesang 2 years ago
Well I did only put some of the lyrics on and didn't finish because I was too tired. The rest will come on the movie someday when I feel like doing it
Kermitkrigsfrog 2 years ago
just copy the lyrics then paste its easier that way
JMS06723 2 years ago
nevermind i see what you mean
JMS06723 2 years ago
This song goes sooo deeep in my soul
alexandroszou 2 years ago
Lovely.. and it helps me alot.
killyourselfexe 2 years ago 2