Paul Tracy onboard at Mexico

[spooky78]

is this the old f1 track..back in 80's

[Gordanovich02]

@spooky78 It was used by F1, yes, but it didn't have the bit through the stadium near the end of the lap. It was just one long sweeping right hander round the outside of where the stadium now is. It was slightly banked in F1 days as well - super fast.

[spooky78]

@Gordanovich02 ok I remembered.. is this the place mansel pass berger in 1990 or 1991..why they changed every circuit I dont understand last corner was wonderful in the past..very fast very nice to watch cars in high speed..pehhh

[jbutton113]

@spooky78 Yeah, before all the changes. They've clearly changed the final Peraltada corner where Mansell made a famous overtake on Berger in 1990.

[15SecondsToFreedom]

fuck me what a boring looking track

right left right left right left right left right left right left right left right left right left ...

[pvmhawk]

@15SecondsToFreedom yeah yeah... what you want, american boy? right, right, right, right, right, right and right eternally, like nascar?

[15SecondsToFreedom]

@pvmhawk im not american nd nascar tracks go left left, but u have to admit for a proper track that looks boring as fuck

[Bakero083]

@pvmhawk

No.. In NASCAR it's left left left left left left & left again..

[TheBirdmanOfToledo]

@pvmhawk it's actually left but anyway i think he meant that he just thought the track was boring. Americans like road courses too btw

[ceeam]

@pvmhawk Surely you meant like classic Monza?

[JackRover]

@pvmhawk it's left left left left left.... :P

and yeah, the track looks boring, no overtaking opportunities :P

[myautomobilefunk]

@JackRover you dont know anything about circuits...this track was based on Monza Circuit, even Mexico City circuit is more complicated because it has more curves .

[18carNASCAR]

@pvmhawk dumbass nascar is left learn your facts before you comment

[MasterGreenwood88]

@pvmhawk actually, nascar goes left...

[spitfire1936]

2003-2007 cars all had Cosworth XFE's and eventually all one make cars. Revs reduced to 12,000rpm 1.4 bar 750bhp with 1.5 bar overtake button to 800bhp. 2002 model 5000rpm higher but boost lower to 1.35 also engine life not great 550miles max before rebuild

[spitfire1936]

Best year for CART was probably 1998. As you had two tyre suppliers Goodyear, Firestone. 5 chasis makers Swift, Eagle, Reynard, Lola, Penske. 4 engine makers Cosworth, Toyota, Honda and Mercedes. In those days it was as close as possible to F1 in power 800bhp (but lower tech and heavier) in manufacturer involvement, international drivers, big teams. Zanardi's 97 & 98 back to back championships hardest and worth more than Bordaius 2004-2007 in level of competition and variables.

[spitfire1936]

This era the cars were producing 860-900bhp. The fastest speed a CART style indycar has done that I am aware of was 244mph during the Indy 500 in 1994. 240mph was the normal max on a oval from that time to this.

[spitfire1936]

In this year the boost restriction was 1.35 bar but revs Honda 15,600+, Cosworth 16000+, Toyota 17,200rpm! and no air valves!

[aguilerapro]

lo mejor es el guero poul tracy

[hr32gtr]

they were the days. 15000rpm plus

where did open wheel racing go in america?

[maoduran]

porque no se callan estos loosers??

[andriusssska]

not bad cars ... how much is slower than f1????

[richdeveau24]

not much or maybe just as fast anyways Champcar doesn't exist anymore, it's all indycars now

[GEARHEADCT]

Champ car is or was the original indy car. They just got booted from competing at indy after 96 when the new series for IRL was formed. In my book these were the real indycars.

[alexrossete]

Not so much.. the f1 is more faster because is more lighter than a ChampCar (and have a very very expensive development and more advanced design), but the champcar was more faster in final speed (in some times almost 380km/h) The IndyCar (IRL) have a 3.5L no-turbo engine (sad.. and a really NOT GOOD LOOKING DALLARA CHASIS); the champcar was a v8 2.65L turbocharged, with almost 900hp in the CART era. The last Champs has 750hp aprox. I really miss CART..

[rt2000pilot]

They have done 256mph in a race, so that makes them Faster than F1.

[wildbeemer]

i had always wondered what the other course at the mexico city circuit looked like, thanks!

[lukeCART1]

have you got this with english commentary

[pvmhawk]

Sorry, I haven't.

[mcbeaulieu]

No (yes this is my capture :P)