@nancycogar Constitution?LOL what constitution?As sick a republicans make me even as being a conservative,leftist democrats are so much worse & todays far left democrats I believe are evil vile human beings.They support BIG GOVERNMENT,anti family,anti god,anti freedom of speech unless it agrees 100% with the leftist agenda,very anti christinanity,pro criminal rights,pro abortion,anti prolife,anti gun rights FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS!And they hie behindthe words peace & love.Hypocritical fucks
@toppertruthio "and theres no reason to call people nuts cos there religous...."
Absolutely. I could not agree with you more. Religious nuts or not, they had the right to be left in peace without the oppressive totalitarian tactic of burning down their compound and killing 84 inocent men, women, and children.
Being religious nuts was the excuse given by the justice department for ammasing a killing force against law abiding American citizen.
@earsarehearible Zac, it is obvious that your entire purpose it to troll me and make me look foolish. You have no intentions of engaging in a legitimate converstation. You, again, have made yourself look foolish.
The result is that, again, you have proven your own ignorance, which is not caused by a lack of education, but a yearning to remained hoodwinked the rest of your life.
THE 84 RELIGIOUS NUTS WHO WERE KILLED IN THIS COMPOUND WERE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST, YOU IDIOT!!!
If a law enforcement agency is equipped with para-military equipment, they will find an excuse to use them. The ATF has, is, and will always be an embarassment to law enforcement.
There is simply no excuse for using tanks, helicopters, and 50 caliber machine guns on a bunch of religious nuts. There is nothing illegal about being a religious nut.
If a law enforcement agency is equipped with para-military equipment, they will find an excuse to use them. The ATF has, is, and will always be an embarassment to law enforcement.
There is simply no excuse for using tanks, helicopters, and 50 caliber machine guns on a bunch of religious nuts. There is nothing illegal about being a religious nut.
I hope that Jew from the camps who sat on this from Washington state and lived in a concentration camp goes and has the most unhappy life for finding the gov't free from harm. Thanks. Senator Lantos................ May your family serve a hell life on earth
I was a staff member to a House Judiciary Committee member, these people WERE tortured and murdered by the Feral government at the direction of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Lon Horiuchi; one day your murderous ass will burn in hell.
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Those children did nothing wrong. Just today out govt took more care in assisting a emirates plan to land today instead of saving those precious babies and their mothers.
I saw this happen in tv and the night vision technology clearly shows rapid fire shots being shot at the compound. And, then Joseph Biden claimed they committed mass suicide which was a lie.
Even if David Koresh awas a criminal he did not receive his Constitutional rights, nor did he get a speedy trial. He was guilty before proven innocent. Those children and women were innocent. However, today you find some people today, making appeasements for Mahamoud for doing the same.
@cezar333 You seem to forget what eventually happens to the bull. The center does not hold. never has, never will. as it is, i expect these videos to be removed at any time, so I am going into the source code and copying them all, and I will be reposting them on my new website, Truthtube. Coming soon...
This man knew about the Illuminates plan on destroying everyone's religious belief and how they use Christianity as a cover up for their Demonic - Freemasons - Occult. There is not one christian church on the planet that has all races of the world attending -fact! in fact, we have more hatred in in churches then any place in the world -fact! And, I've been attack by people saying that I am spreading rumors when those before me spoke out about these man - made demons are now dead and gone
After seeing the whole thing I must say this makes me sick ! Nothing but lies, lies and more filthy lies on the part of the FBI and the ATF. When presented with evidence they tell a bold face lie, and they have gotten away with that to this day....
This was nothing less than a public execution, premeditated murder ! The people responsible have to pay ! I saw the New Clinton Chronicles too (on video.google) and that also turned my stomach...
@jpandyaraja well if your an american then kiss your rights good bye because the govermnet is gonna take them way from all of you. there putting microchips in your passport now and later hopefully in all of its citizens
@jpandyaraja ITS funny that you claim Mr koresh to be a sexploiter yet you dont aknowledge any wrong doing of our goverment. honestley i dont know if mr koresh was a sexploiter as you say he was but i know the tactic that was employed was wrong especially because children were invloved. hmmm whose worst a child molester or a baby killer?
@LADORSEY You should know that koresh torched the babies and adult members with an incinery liquid poured throughout the compound. No one killed the babies but koresh. He thought the attack was a sign from God that he should kill his whole group to start a war against the new world order. Sounds bizzare? That's because koresh believed he was a prophet and he was a homicidal religous nut job with illegal machine guns and defied government agencies a search and arrest warrant with armed conflict.
@youlance29 thats not true first the gunshot wound to koresh head and steve shneider was not typcial for a sappose suicide wich was concluded by an independent DR Cyril H Wecht of Pittsburg 2ND the guns that they had were legal which is a fact google it 3rd some of the bodys didnt have carbon monoxide in their lungs which shows you that they died before the fire was started
@LADORSEY yes, koresh's follower shot him in the head before the fire could overtake him. Some followers were forced and some followed him in death with suicide by gunfire or the fire set by koresh and his men. The babies, however, all died not by choice. What exactly is your argument?
@youlance29 My argument is that the goverment used illegal tactics to go after david koresh, such as using the delta force on american citizens, tampered with evidence and lied under oath about what took place at waco. prior to the massacre at waco david koresh was never charged with molestation or rape. the warrant was for the so called illegal guns that he had, which turned out to be legally registerd to the members of his group.
@LADORSEY Your argument about koresh is wrong. the ATF was serving a search and arrest warrant for unregistered/illegal machine guns. they had over a dozen illegal machine guns and SILENCERS. koresh has no right to deny ATF entry and to fight it out with machine guns. the warrant had nothing to do with molestation or rape but for illegal machine guns which is an automatic felony and many years in jail. If ATF knocks on your door, you come out with your hands up.
@youlance29 Youlance f were did you get your information (hearsay) about david koresh molesting children, if david koresh was molesting children how come there wasnt a warrant for his arrest on rape or molestation charges. oh and as far as the guns they were found to be legal i read the report on david koresh.
@LADORSEY The machine guns they had were all completely illegal as they were unregistered. And how do you explain the silencers. Again you are wrong. the federal warrant served to koresh was a search and arrest warrant for the machine guns. the warrant had nothing to do with child molestation or rape whether he did or not. But we saw the reality of religious nut jobs owning illegal machine guns and battling federal agents. pathetic fools!
@youlance29 since you cant prove that david koresh wasnt a child molester or a rapist and the warrant WAS NOT for child molestation or rape can we agree that he wasnt a child molester
@LADORSEY yes, i can agree that because the warrant was for illegal machine guns and that koreshe killed himself and most of the children, there is no real proof that he was a child molester/rapist.
Now can you agree that he possessed illegal machine guns, silencers, defied a federal warrant with armed conflict, murdered federal agents, and torched most of his members and all the babies? There may be no proof that he's a child molestor, but there certainly is proof he's a psycho MURDERER!!!
@youlance29 okay you said that david koresh possessed illegal firearms . please reffer me to any artical that i can read for myself that backs your claim. iam a very open mind and reasonable person.
@LADORSEY i will refer you to the following resources to see that the warrant was for illegal MACHINE Guns: google, wikipedia "david koresh" and "waco siege" w/references, DOJ, ATF, FBI,
@youlance29 i checked both articals out and to the contrary the ATF was advised that arresting koresh at mount carmel would provoke a violent response also a representative for the protective child services also advised the ATF againts such action. so the FBI were neglegent in the murder of the davidians
@LADORSEY The FBI did not murder dozens of adults and children. the FBI negotiated to have about 20 children released during the 51 day seige. It was koresh that spread the incineray liquid(gas) throughout the compound which eventually engulfed it within 30minutes killing almost everyone. It was a tragedy but koresh was on a suicidal and homicial mission to fullfill his war with babylon and the new world order. Next time when the ATF/FBI come knock on your door, you come out with your hands up!
see folks, these evil creatures have no problem with the black-suited Nazis killing for them, especially when most of them are too cowardly and pathetic to do it themselves...
Don't understand? Start with my quotes page. Don't miss my columns to see an appropriate response to this garbage....
@youlance29 the search warrant was so called justified not on the basis that koresh had purchased anything ilegal but on the basis that they COULD be modifying legal firearms to illegal firearms. after the davidians were murdered the FBI never found any illegal firearms and thats a fact look up "waco siege"
@LADORSEY Of the 253 firearms found, 46 were fully automatic assault rifles and 20 silencers were found. They purchased all the parts necessary to convert semi automatic into fully automatic weapons which they did without the $200 per automatic for registering/proper paperwork for finger printing and fbi background checks. Owning unregistered/illegal automatic weapons and silencers are automatic felonies and probably 10 years in prison.
@youlance29 lol your right in fact the davidians did purchase firearms that could have been converted into fully automatic weapons. however lets stick to the facts . ive done some research, i also read both articals that you referred to me and nowhere in both articals did it state that the davidians had illegal weapons. you might here words like allegedly, possibly, probrably , potentionally but thats it
@LADORSEY I saw a special on tv called "children of waco" interviewing the children 14 years later that did escape before the fire. They did point to the fact that they were molested and that koresh had underage wives. Unfortunately, he cannot be trialed as a child molestor because he's dead. As far as the warrant, it has been proven that they had plenty of UNREGISTERED machine guns out of the 46 found. And how do you explain the 20 silencers? Sorry, but there are no licenses for silencers. lol
@youlance29 thats not true, in texas silencers are legall and their is a license for it in texas its called an AFT class 3 license. thank god for texas and the 2nd amendment. david koresh was in the bussiness of buying and selling firearms. again show me an artical , just one artical that states david koresh had illegal weapons. the warrant was based on a suspicion not faacts
@LADORSEY You must register with the ATF for a class 3 license and pay a $200 fee for every license. He had 20 silencers unregistered. The warrant was based on a reasonable suspicion when ATF found automatic conversion kits in their mail(warrant to open, inspect, reseal, and deliver). This is a fact and you can find the documents at DOJ, FBI, ATF, Waco PD/DA.
@youlance29 ive been busy lately but i wanted to conclude our conversation. i read many diffrent articales about david koresh and a came to a conclusion. okay i can admit the guy was one frenchfry short of a happy meal. i think that some of the kids might have been molested but iam not sure. However illegal firearms were never found on that property. even some of his followers that went to jail was never convicted on any illegal firearm charges.
@LADORSEY According to the program "children of waco", child members and adult members interviewed 14 years later said koresh molested them. the search and arrest warrant was justified. Koresh has no right to deny entry and to fight DEA with automatic weapons. A normal citizen would come out with his hands up and fight it in COURT. A rational person would not barricade and fight Federal agents with assault weapons. he illegally possesed auto firearms due to not paying the $200 ATF transfer fee
@youlance29 wrong my friend lol. the search warrant was authorized to see if he possessed ilegal weapons. that means they didnt know if he had illegal automatic weapons or not. secondly ive read every artical that your reffered me to and none of them said that david koresh possessed any illegal weapons . i even googled that question up ,still no results. lets finish this topic so we can move on to 9/11
@LADORSEY right, search warrants are always an authorization to search not a proof of anything. the proof is what is found or not found when presented in COURT. every civilian has to comply to a warrant by not resisting arrest, not barricading themselves, and not killing federal agents. When ATF knocks on your door to serve a warrant, do you barricade yourself and shoot at them or do come out with your hands up? koresh committed murder and if was proven they didn't pay the $200 atf transfer fee.
@youlance29 WELL as far as who started the gunfight between the ATF and the branch davidians we will never know because all of the evidnece are either missing or was tampered with. lives could have been saved if the ATF would have heeded warnings by child protective services and not provoke koresh. they could have gotting him at the local walmart were he was known to frequent.
@LADORSEY When the police serves you a warrant, do you put your hands up peacefully or barricade yourself and fight them with guns? A sane person would come out peacefully and fight them in COURT whether they are innocent or not. should everyone fight a warrant with guns against LE? koresh decided to barrricade, use guns, and murder civilians and law enforcement. don't put the blame on LE because there is no way of knowing koresh was a homicidal and suicidal religious pedophile NUTJOB!!!
@youlance29 Did you even watch the video? Everybody at that compound was found innocent in a court of law. They could have taken Koresh any time they wanted to when he went into town. Koresh came to the door unarmed and begging them not to storm the compound the ATF fired at him and the Davidians fired back. All the evidence that would have proved the ATFs story was "lost" by the ATF. Coincidence? Or bad luck?
@zegermandude the warrant was a search and arrest warrant. agents arrest you at your home and search your home not walmart. koresh refused the warrant by barricading himself and killing federal agents in the initial warrant served as well as the 2 month battle. it was koresh's duty to come out with his hands up and fight the ATF in COURT. The adult survivors were not found innocent but found guilty and went to jail for murdering federal agents.
@youlance29 They could have arrested him anywhere, a search and arrest warrant allows law enforcement to arrest you anywhere in the U.S. and take you back to wherever they had a warrant to search. Instead they decided to use the situation as a type of PR event. Koresh was coming out to beg them not to use violence, as there were women and children inside, when the ATF started indiscrimanetly started shooting up the compound. This gave the Davidians the right to defend themselves.
@youlance29 They were found innocent by a jury of their peers of murder and conspiracy to commit murder. At the last minute their defense attorneys allowed manslaughter charges to pressed and they were found guilty of that. Which is completely different than murder. Not only was the trial conducted without half of the evidence being present, it was "lost" by the ATF and FBI, there was a horrible bias against them.
If brains were gas you couldnt power a hybrid around a cheerio.
@zegermandude A plea bargain to manslaughter still makes them murderers even if it was under the spell of a homicidal suicidal pedophilic religious nutjob. Someone killed all those agents. don't make excuses for adults.
@youlance29 You are obviously a biased troll that wouldnt know his/her ass from a hole in the ground. Did you completely miss the fact that nearly all of the evidence that would have proved them innocent or guilty went missing? If we assume that it was accidentally lost then the ATF are the worst kind of incompetent morons (which I think they are), or they are downright devious (which I think they are also). Or are you just mentally retarded? 'Cause if you are I can completely understand.
@youlance29 HAHAHAHAHA You just made my day! Thats the best you could come up with? HAHAHAHAHA. Now that I know that you are either; A. On some really good drugs or B. You are so biased you cant look objectively at the situation and derive the obvious truth from it, I pity you either way.
@LADORSEY Ok kool. what gets me excited is hearing about delusional conspiracy theories. The first part of my interview is to hear your story and to rationally debate you in order to access your level of intelligence and delusion. This all leads up to figuring out the MOTIVE or why your persist to be delusional in the fact of facts and logic? is it a anti-govermen stance, mental illness, personal experience in the event, or other ulterior motives.
@LADORSEY You also stated that 9/11 was a result of the US gov not al qaeda or bin ladin. I can't figure out your motive for arguing this. Would you like to tell me your motive in declaring that the US government was responsible for 9/11 and that koresh was justified in denying a warrant and killing federal agents? I would like to know your MOTIVE.
the next topic i would like to discuss with you is the JFK assassination or pick another topic-pearl harbor, aliens, ?
@LADORSEY I would also like to hear you prove that the US government crashed multiple planes into the twin towers and pentagon on 9/11 and pinning it on al qaeda and bin laden. While you're at it, please tell us about the JFK assassination, pearl harbor, and aliens.
@youlance29 Are you really that blind? Did you forget something, for example those children in there? What a great plan to rescue children by gasing them to death, they knew there were no gasmask for children.
@youlance29@youlance29 hahaa, i see you've watched your "daily news brodcastings" orchestrated by same people who killed those davidians. They weren't there to catch childmolester or cult leader. warrant was for 200$ unpaid taxes. Theres many documentaries here in youtube about this subject check out.
@linzki the $200 tax was for illegal firearm parts that made their assault riffles fully automatic. they were there for the dozens of automatic assault riffles which killed atf agents and also found about 20 silencers! this guy was a total nut, polygamist and pedophile who torched his own people including 25 children!!!!
@youlance29 those modified automatic rifles weren't illegal if you just paid $200 tax. Davidians assembled gun parts into complete guns, which they sold to the public through a licensed dealer that was good business for both parts.
So they were just making business selling firearms.
And what comes to accusations of polygami and pedophilia isn't BATF:s jurisdiction.
@linzki automatic weapons are illegal without the $200 transfer tax for the proper paperwork, fingerprints, passport photos and fbi background check. automatic weapons are heavily regulated so that they don't end up in the hands of criminals or mentally ill individuals. they are trying to own an unregistered machine gun making them ILLEGAL. anyone caught with an unregistered machine gun is a FELONY and automatically handcuffed and jailed.
@youlance29 I'm not defending Koresh here, it's about those innocent kids and how government conducted this whole operation. It all points that they went there to kill. Just look how all important evidence was intentionally destroyed while davidians was screaming on the phone that they are destroying evidence.
Lawyer Deguerin, who saw those doors, testified in court: "All the bullet holes I saw had smooth edges from bullets coming from the outside" contrary to what ATF said.
@youlance29 If, and to me all evindence point to that, BATF fired first, those inside had all right to fire back and defend themself. I've gone thru lots of video materia of this and it's plain as day that BATF was shooting at their own people from helicopter.
Why, beats me, but it is so clear, you can see bullets coming from sky and there were no Davidians :D . My good quess is that this whole Waco incident was coverup for WTC bombing 2 days earlier to divert peoples attension elsewhere.
@youlance29 Have you seen google video named: "Waco The F.L.I.R. Project"
FBI said they didn't fire single shot 4/19. This video says something else. ok, maybe they are clever and right by sayind FBI didn't fire one single shot, because it was delta forces or someone else, see, all bases covered.
And btw FBI used ferret rounds and those can cause fire.
@linzki you are suggesting that the FBI set off the fire with ferret rounds? gunfire can never set off a fire that torched the whole complex. koresh and members poured gasoline throughout the complex and torched everyone inside. bullets did not cause the fire, but GASOLINE poured by koresh did!!! there was no need for him to kill everyone else just because he didn't want to goto jail!!!! It was a tragedy but the blame is 100% on Koresh and his adult followers. the children were 100% innocent.
@youlance29 It is also higly possible that FBI vehicle knocked over a lantern as it began punching holes in the compound wall. FBI knew BD were using lanterns, because they had cut the power. And they knew that fire was possible, they called hospital to be ready for many fire victims and what i've learned that cs gas and fire together equals to cyanide and you know what cyanide does.
@youlance29 There is so much cover up, that it is difficult to say where everybody died. Still the "evidence" what we have now, doesn't support official theory.
About cover up: How convinient that of double front entry doors just one was found after the fire and that missing one happens to be the one with bulletholes.
Only that one piece of evidence would have shown that BATF lied.
And there were at least 3 cameras filming when shooting started, now all of those first videotapes are missing.
@linzki FBI knocked over a lantern? how would a lantern engulf the entire complex within minutes? there was an incinerary liquid poured by koresh. truth is, koresh believed this was THE sign from god that he should sacrifice himself and his denomination to start the war with babylon and defeat the new world order. sounds far fetched huh? that's because koresh was a HOMICIDAL RELIGIOUS NUTJOB!!!!
@linzki No one has a right to fire on and kill ATF agents. NO ONE!!! they are a federal agency with a WARRANT. Koresh should have surrendered day 1 and fight it in court not with a 30day standoff!!! Multiple ATF agents were shot by Koresh's goons with illegal automatic assault rifles not by their own agents!!! It was proved through live video and forensics evidence afterwards!!! Koresh torched 25 children!!! WTC bombing was done by radical muslims having nothing to do with waco!!!!
@youlance29 Law says citizens have the right to self-defense against excessive force by law enforcement agents. BATF:s warrant was of the kind where you knock on the door, and state your legal business. Only if the authorities are denied entrance is it allowed to force entry. What would you do if they came to your house running and start immediately shoot through the door.
@linzki The problem with your argument is that koresh denied entrance after ATF knocked on his door. he should have given up right there and lay flat on his stomach. If ATF came to my home to serve me a warrant, i would let them in not close the door and threaten them with automatic weapons from 50 other adults!!!
@linzki And what do you think about 9/11? you probably believe 9/11 was planned by the cia not bin laden. are you really serious about all your government conspiracy theories? you either hate america or you're truly blind!
@youlance29 Here we go. Just throw in conspiracy theory argument to avoid look at the facts. Governments actions points to that there is way too much "coinsidences.
@linzki seriously, i'm still waiting for your story of 9/11. i would luv to hear another delusional conspiracy theory. if you have the time, please tell us about the JFK assassination too! pretty please!
@youlance29 the official explanation dont make any sense...the pentagon was it by a plane yet they wont allow the pulic to see the tape not one tape of the incident yet there are over 100hundred camera around the pentagon. how about building seven that wasnt hit yet it fell on its own what about shanksville they didnt find any human remians cmon stop being so guilable...like our gobvermnet hasnt lied to us before
@LADORSEY the tape of the plane crashing into the pentagon has been shown on public tv around the world. you can find it on youtube or google with a quick search. so how do you dispute the facts of al qaeda members caught on tape, voice, and their remains in the planes they crashed? how do you dispute that bin laden has publicly taken responsibility for the attack? You like to focus on a small "fuzzy" detail of the attack without looking at the indisputable facts right in front of you. why?
@youlance29 i saw the tape and it doesnt show a a plane hitting the pentagon and what about building 7 of the wtc which was host to the CIA ,DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, and THE SECRET SERVICE yet it fell at free fall speed with no resistance and it wasnt hit by a plane youlance29 can you aknowledge my question with a reasonable answear id appereciat it but if you cant then ill understand
@LADORSEY building 7 collapsed due to structural failure from the debris of the north tower collapse. building 7 lacked a modern fire suppression system and eventually gave way to fire and structural collapse. Please acknowlegde who the al qaeda members were, who coordinated the mulitple plane attacks, and who bin laden is. Who EXACTLY is responsible for 9/11 if not al qaeda and bin laden? Can you acknowledge my question with reasonable answer i appreciate it but if you can't ill not understand
@youlance29 the officiall report says osama bid laden was behind the attack yet theirs no proof what so ever besides a tape which was convientley found that said that he did it. there were 19 hijackers that left incriminating eveidence at the seen like two passports that was found intact at the crash site yet the fir ewas so hot that it melted steel oh yeah mahommad atta accidently left a luggage at the airport, in side were the names of all 19 hijackers
@youlance29 osama said he was responsible for 9/11 then how come the goverment have no proof, evidents or anything that ties osama ben laden to 9/11. the goverment refused to investigate who financed the so called terrorist . all you have is a tape that says he did it and that was enough to pull back from investigating who and how it was financed. the cia was told to back off from all futher investigation . show me somthing that ties osama to the crime scene
@LADORSEY How does the US gov not have proof of bin laden and al qeada commiting 9/11? Ever heard of the flight data recorders of their voices? how about video of them at the airport and seized laptops and letters? How about their dead bodies? Show me how the US government was responsible for crashing multiple planes, destroying multiple buildings, and killing thousands on 9/11. holy shit you're delusional! while you're at it, please tell us who killed JFK.
@youlance29 oh we have answears how did the so called hijackers get pass NORAD, how come there are no video footage that shows a plane htting the pentagon, the footage that you reffered to me dosent show a plane flying into the pentagon, why does building 7 fall in a pancake fashion just because of fire and some debris, if the hijackers were on board the plane how come there name wasnt on teh flight manifest
@LADORSEY Norad and pentagon? there you go again trying to detract from the big picture by arguing small details which you feel are controversial. norad never had this happen so they were unprepared for civilian hijackings. buliding 7 feel due to debris and fire damage from n tower. pentagon security cameras are on still image .5s delay impossilbe to accurately record a 560mph plane. If there was no video of the planes crashing into the twin towers, does that mean no plane crashed into it? lol
@LADORSEY Please tell us who exactly crashed those planes and killed thousands of Americans on 9/11 if not al qeada members. go ahead and tell us who else could have hijacked the planes and committed suicide.
@youlance29 building 7 fell in its own foot print, secondly debris and fire did damage the building but the steel colums still would have been standing in the air. 3rd never in the history of the world has fire and debris knocked a building with steel columns down at a free fall pace before. and 4larry silverstein admitted that the building was pulled .
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@deadadelta what about the fact they have been putting fluoride in the water for many years now. That is no secret, I remember as a kid I lived in a town with no fluoride in the water so the school would make us take it in cups and swish it around and spit it out.
treon123456 is onto something. i've seen some false flag stuff like what he said. 9/11 and ok city. check out randy weaver. that was'nt a false flag event but, it's still crap as to the way our government treats it's people in order to satisfy it's agenda.
tim mcviegh vvas still breathing vvhen they took him out of the chamber....3 vvitnesses stated.....he vvas a cia operative.....look up vvhat really happened at oklahoma city!that vvas....like 9/11......a false flag event....to neutralize the militias and remove our 2nd amendment rights!
He may not have been right killing kids, but he did take his case to the public- many naive people don't support his CAUSE because they don't support his TACTICS- but to punish to gov. for what it did to innocents- we're lucky someone at least took it to the media.
look at the footage from parts 1 through 12. does anyone see any teltail puffs of dirt being kicked up around the atf as to indicate fire coming from within the compound? also it was after the atf climbed on the roof and broke through the window and entered inside did i see what looked like fire coming from within. i think david was telling the truth. if they were truly ready for it, the atf guys on the roof would not have made it inside and the atf out front, well, many would have been hurt.
People have a right to their own religious belief's, the fact that the media made an issue about it should be a red flag.
People were all horrified about 9/11, yet why should they expect the government to act any different than they did during the Waco mass murder?
They vilified the people at Waco in the media, accusing Koresh of crimes, so he was found guilty, tried in the media.
Basically using propaganda, to justify using the US military against civilians.
Where is this in the constitution?
nancycogar 2 months ago
@nancycogar Constitution?LOL what constitution?As sick a republicans make me even as being a conservative,leftist democrats are so much worse & todays far left democrats I believe are evil vile human beings.They support BIG GOVERNMENT,anti family,anti god,anti freedom of speech unless it agrees 100% with the leftist agenda,very anti christinanity,pro criminal rights,pro abortion,anti prolife,anti gun rights FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS!And they hie behindthe words peace & love.Hypocritical fucks
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@toppertruthio "and theres no reason to call people nuts cos there religous...."
Absolutely. I could not agree with you more. Religious nuts or not, they had the right to be left in peace without the oppressive totalitarian tactic of burning down their compound and killing 84 inocent men, women, and children.
Being religious nuts was the excuse given by the justice department for ammasing a killing force against law abiding American citizen.
mark0454 4 months ago
if your happy and you know it clank your chains
iain0572 5 months ago
@iain0572 ....watch your view sir..
johnediamond 5 months ago
@earsarehearible Zac, it is obvious that your entire purpose it to troll me and make me look foolish. You have no intentions of engaging in a legitimate converstation. You, again, have made yourself look foolish.
The result is that, again, you have proven your own ignorance, which is not caused by a lack of education, but a yearning to remained hoodwinked the rest of your life.
THE 84 RELIGIOUS NUTS WHO WERE KILLED IN THIS COMPOUND WERE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST, YOU IDIOT!!!
mark0454 5 months ago
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If a law enforcement agency is equipped with para-military equipment, they will find an excuse to use them. The ATF has, is, and will always be an embarassment to law enforcement.
There is simply no excuse for using tanks, helicopters, and 50 caliber machine guns on a bunch of religious nuts. There is nothing illegal about being a religious nut.
mark0454 5 months ago
If a law enforcement agency is equipped with para-military equipment, they will find an excuse to use them. The ATF has, is, and will always be an embarassment to law enforcement.
There is simply no excuse for using tanks, helicopters, and 50 caliber machine guns on a bunch of religious nuts. There is nothing illegal about being a religious nut.
mark0454 5 months ago
@mark0454 and theres no reason to call people nuts cos there religous....each to there own
toppertruthio 4 months ago
The Tea Party will be burned up next.Be Vigilant America!
SmokeBojangles 7 months ago
I hope that Jew from the camps who sat on this from Washington state and lived in a concentration camp goes and has the most unhappy life for finding the gov't free from harm. Thanks. Senator Lantos................ May your family serve a hell life on earth
susanbcork 7 months ago
I was a staff member to a House Judiciary Committee member, these people WERE tortured and murdered by the Feral government at the direction of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Lon Horiuchi; one day your murderous ass will burn in hell.
Clarkecars 8 months ago
This was another "Ruby Ridge" incident........
goldenbuckles 9 months ago 2
this waco insident or whatever, makes me pissed.
Troforso 9 months ago
Jesus would never return because of the miltary reaction and some peoples reaction.
dragnet53 1 year ago
Waco was a summary execution.
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Send Jews back to Irael where they r due to meet their destiny soon
Nasym50 1 year ago
Those children did nothing wrong. Just today out govt took more care in assisting a emirates plan to land today instead of saving those precious babies and their mothers.
duvexy 1 year ago
I saw this happen in tv and the night vision technology clearly shows rapid fire shots being shot at the compound. And, then Joseph Biden claimed they committed mass suicide which was a lie.
duvexy 1 year ago 6
I saw this happen in tv and the night vision technology clearly shows rapid fire shots being shot at the compound.
duvexy 1 year ago
Even if David Koresh awas a criminal he did not receive his Constitutional rights, nor did he get a speedy trial. He was guilty before proven innocent. Those children and women were innocent. However, today you find some people today, making appeasements for Mahamoud for doing the same.
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@cezar333 You seem to forget what eventually happens to the bull. The center does not hold. never has, never will. as it is, i expect these videos to be removed at any time, so I am going into the source code and copying them all, and I will be reposting them on my new website, Truthtube. Coming soon...
dethchannel 1 year ago
now come on, when hasnt a clinton been a criminal ? watch my vids assholes for the truth
ihateyoujerkoff 1 year ago 4
@ihateyoujerkoff Yes sir, I agree
kyubibankai 1 year ago
You fuck with the bull, you will get the horns.
cesar333 1 year ago
Murder and they all walked free, many got promoted.
darrellmellissa 1 year ago
Thank you FBI agent for being brave enough and believing the what is right to come forward God Blesses you
Nathano27 1 year ago
How can it be ileagle to have fire arms?
darrellmellissa 1 year ago
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This man knew about the Illuminates plan on destroying everyone's religious belief and how they use Christianity as a cover up for their Demonic - Freemasons - Occult. There is not one christian church on the planet that has all races of the world attending -fact! in fact, we have more hatred in in churches then any place in the world -fact! And, I've been attack by people saying that I am spreading rumors when those before me spoke out about these man - made demons are now dead and gone
MrNapoleonHardridge 1 year ago
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MrNapoleonHardridge 1 year ago
you ever think that the dead agents are to justify this tragedy? think outside the box guys, the truth is elusive and also hidden in plain sight
wrathchild71 1 year ago
After seeing the whole thing I must say this makes me sick ! Nothing but lies, lies and more filthy lies on the part of the FBI and the ATF. When presented with evidence they tell a bold face lie, and they have gotten away with that to this day....
This was nothing less than a public execution, premeditated murder ! The people responsible have to pay ! I saw the New Clinton Chronicles too (on video.google) and that also turned my stomach...
Taxidriver987 1 year ago
Wow you people reach far stretching conclusions fast...this is only part 1 of 12 :D.
Taxidriver987 1 year ago
I DONT BELIVE ANY lies that our govermnet tell us
LADORSEY 1 year ago
thiis fucker looks a well fed version of ugly Adolf..........any way whatever trickery
was used to destroy the wacoites is welcome........
jpandyaraja 1 year ago
@jpandyaraja well if your an american then kiss your rights good bye because the govermnet is gonna take them way from all of you. there putting microchips in your passport now and later hopefully in all of its citizens
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY LADORSEY LADORSEY @LADORSEY i know david koresh is a pin boy for many a reactionary in u.s........
apparently they dont have anything against a pedophile and and an incestuoes
jpandyaraja 1 year ago
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@LADORSEY and a violent sexploiter like mr koresh.......these people are too busy guarding
the rights of koresh...osama bin laden adolp hitler etc etc.........if you really are
concerned i suggest you help the victims .(.those violated young chlidren.).of
mr koresh.......i am no friend of the govt. buy i would rather prefer them than
koresh and co
jpandyaraja 1 year ago
@jpandyaraja ITS funny that you claim Mr koresh to be a sexploiter yet you dont aknowledge any wrong doing of our goverment. honestley i dont know if mr koresh was a sexploiter as you say he was but i know the tactic that was employed was wrong especially because children were invloved. hmmm whose worst a child molester or a baby killer?
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY You should know that koresh torched the babies and adult members with an incinery liquid poured throughout the compound. No one killed the babies but koresh. He thought the attack was a sign from God that he should kill his whole group to start a war against the new world order. Sounds bizzare? That's because koresh believed he was a prophet and he was a homicidal religous nut job with illegal machine guns and defied government agencies a search and arrest warrant with armed conflict.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 thats not true first the gunshot wound to koresh head and steve shneider was not typcial for a sappose suicide wich was concluded by an independent DR Cyril H Wecht of Pittsburg 2ND the guns that they had were legal which is a fact google it 3rd some of the bodys didnt have carbon monoxide in their lungs which shows you that they died before the fire was started
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY yes, koresh's follower shot him in the head before the fire could overtake him. Some followers were forced and some followed him in death with suicide by gunfire or the fire set by koresh and his men. The babies, however, all died not by choice. What exactly is your argument?
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 My argument is that the goverment used illegal tactics to go after david koresh, such as using the delta force on american citizens, tampered with evidence and lied under oath about what took place at waco. prior to the massacre at waco david koresh was never charged with molestation or rape. the warrant was for the so called illegal guns that he had, which turned out to be legally registerd to the members of his group.
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Your argument about koresh is wrong. the ATF was serving a search and arrest warrant for unregistered/illegal machine guns. they had over a dozen illegal machine guns and SILENCERS. koresh has no right to deny ATF entry and to fight it out with machine guns. the warrant had nothing to do with molestation or rape but for illegal machine guns which is an automatic felony and many years in jail. If ATF knocks on your door, you come out with your hands up.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 Youlance f were did you get your information (hearsay) about david koresh molesting children, if david koresh was molesting children how come there wasnt a warrant for his arrest on rape or molestation charges. oh and as far as the guns they were found to be legal i read the report on david koresh.
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY The machine guns they had were all completely illegal as they were unregistered. And how do you explain the silencers. Again you are wrong. the federal warrant served to koresh was a search and arrest warrant for the machine guns. the warrant had nothing to do with child molestation or rape whether he did or not. But we saw the reality of religious nut jobs owning illegal machine guns and battling federal agents. pathetic fools!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 since you cant prove that david koresh wasnt a child molester or a rapist and the warrant WAS NOT for child molestation or rape can we agree that he wasnt a child molester
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY yes, i can agree that because the warrant was for illegal machine guns and that koreshe killed himself and most of the children, there is no real proof that he was a child molester/rapist.
Now can you agree that he possessed illegal machine guns, silencers, defied a federal warrant with armed conflict, murdered federal agents, and torched most of his members and all the babies? There may be no proof that he's a child molestor, but there certainly is proof he's a psycho MURDERER!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 okay you said that david koresh possessed illegal firearms . please reffer me to any artical that i can read for myself that backs your claim. iam a very open mind and reasonable person.
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY i will refer you to the following resources to see that the warrant was for illegal MACHINE Guns: google, wikipedia "david koresh" and "waco siege" w/references, DOJ, ATF, FBI,
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 i checked both articals out and to the contrary the ATF was advised that arresting koresh at mount carmel would provoke a violent response also a representative for the protective child services also advised the ATF againts such action. so the FBI were neglegent in the murder of the davidians
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY The FBI did not murder dozens of adults and children. the FBI negotiated to have about 20 children released during the 51 day seige. It was koresh that spread the incineray liquid(gas) throughout the compound which eventually engulfed it within 30minutes killing almost everyone. It was a tragedy but koresh was on a suicidal and homicial mission to fullfill his war with babylon and the new world order. Next time when the ATF/FBI come knock on your door, you come out with your hands up!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29
Hope they come to yours and murder you.
Are you part of that evil garbage?!!!
waypasthadenough 1 year ago
@waypasthadenough BAD BOY BAD BOY, WATCHA GONNA DO? WATCHA GONNA DO WHEN WE COME FOR YOU?!!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29
see folks, these evil creatures have no problem with the black-suited Nazis killing for them, especially when most of them are too cowardly and pathetic to do it themselves...
Don't understand? Start with my quotes page. Don't miss my columns to see an appropriate response to this garbage....
waypasthadenough 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Please tell us who exactly crashed those planes and killed thousands of innocent Americans on 9/11.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 the search warrant was so called justified not on the basis that koresh had purchased anything ilegal but on the basis that they COULD be modifying legal firearms to illegal firearms. after the davidians were murdered the FBI never found any illegal firearms and thats a fact look up "waco siege"
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Of the 253 firearms found, 46 were fully automatic assault rifles and 20 silencers were found. They purchased all the parts necessary to convert semi automatic into fully automatic weapons which they did without the $200 per automatic for registering/proper paperwork for finger printing and fbi background checks. Owning unregistered/illegal automatic weapons and silencers are automatic felonies and probably 10 years in prison.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29
You are evil lying shit aren't you?
waypasthadenough 1 year ago
@youlance29 lol your right in fact the davidians did purchase firearms that could have been converted into fully automatic weapons. however lets stick to the facts . ive done some research, i also read both articals that you referred to me and nowhere in both articals did it state that the davidians had illegal weapons. you might here words like allegedly, possibly, probrably , potentionally but thats it
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY I saw a special on tv called "children of waco" interviewing the children 14 years later that did escape before the fire. They did point to the fact that they were molested and that koresh had underage wives. Unfortunately, he cannot be trialed as a child molestor because he's dead. As far as the warrant, it has been proven that they had plenty of UNREGISTERED machine guns out of the 46 found. And how do you explain the 20 silencers? Sorry, but there are no licenses for silencers. lol
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 thats not true, in texas silencers are legall and their is a license for it in texas its called an AFT class 3 license. thank god for texas and the 2nd amendment. david koresh was in the bussiness of buying and selling firearms. again show me an artical , just one artical that states david koresh had illegal weapons. the warrant was based on a suspicion not faacts
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY You must register with the ATF for a class 3 license and pay a $200 fee for every license. He had 20 silencers unregistered. The warrant was based on a reasonable suspicion when ATF found automatic conversion kits in their mail(warrant to open, inspect, reseal, and deliver). This is a fact and you can find the documents at DOJ, FBI, ATF, Waco PD/DA.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 ive been busy lately but i wanted to conclude our conversation. i read many diffrent articales about david koresh and a came to a conclusion. okay i can admit the guy was one frenchfry short of a happy meal. i think that some of the kids might have been molested but iam not sure. However illegal firearms were never found on that property. even some of his followers that went to jail was never convicted on any illegal firearm charges.
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY According to the program "children of waco", child members and adult members interviewed 14 years later said koresh molested them. the search and arrest warrant was justified. Koresh has no right to deny entry and to fight DEA with automatic weapons. A normal citizen would come out with his hands up and fight it in COURT. A rational person would not barricade and fight Federal agents with assault weapons. he illegally possesed auto firearms due to not paying the $200 ATF transfer fee
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 wrong my friend lol. the search warrant was authorized to see if he possessed ilegal weapons. that means they didnt know if he had illegal automatic weapons or not. secondly ive read every artical that your reffered me to and none of them said that david koresh possessed any illegal weapons . i even googled that question up ,still no results. lets finish this topic so we can move on to 9/11
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY right, search warrants are always an authorization to search not a proof of anything. the proof is what is found or not found when presented in COURT. every civilian has to comply to a warrant by not resisting arrest, not barricading themselves, and not killing federal agents. When ATF knocks on your door to serve a warrant, do you barricade yourself and shoot at them or do come out with your hands up? koresh committed murder and if was proven they didn't pay the $200 atf transfer fee.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 WELL as far as who started the gunfight between the ATF and the branch davidians we will never know because all of the evidnece are either missing or was tampered with. lives could have been saved if the ATF would have heeded warnings by child protective services and not provoke koresh. they could have gotting him at the local walmart were he was known to frequent.
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY When the police serves you a warrant, do you put your hands up peacefully or barricade yourself and fight them with guns? A sane person would come out peacefully and fight them in COURT whether they are innocent or not. should everyone fight a warrant with guns against LE? koresh decided to barrricade, use guns, and murder civilians and law enforcement. don't put the blame on LE because there is no way of knowing koresh was a homicidal and suicidal religious pedophile NUTJOB!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@LADORSEY We're not finished. i want to hear about your conspiracies of 9/11, JFK, Pearl Harbor, and Aliens.
Discuss.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 Did you even watch the video? Everybody at that compound was found innocent in a court of law. They could have taken Koresh any time they wanted to when he went into town. Koresh came to the door unarmed and begging them not to storm the compound the ATF fired at him and the Davidians fired back. All the evidence that would have proved the ATFs story was "lost" by the ATF. Coincidence? Or bad luck?
Discuss.
zegermandude 1 year ago
@zegermandude the warrant was a search and arrest warrant. agents arrest you at your home and search your home not walmart. koresh refused the warrant by barricading himself and killing federal agents in the initial warrant served as well as the 2 month battle. it was koresh's duty to come out with his hands up and fight the ATF in COURT. The adult survivors were not found innocent but found guilty and went to jail for murdering federal agents.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 They could have arrested him anywhere, a search and arrest warrant allows law enforcement to arrest you anywhere in the U.S. and take you back to wherever they had a warrant to search. Instead they decided to use the situation as a type of PR event. Koresh was coming out to beg them not to use violence, as there were women and children inside, when the ATF started indiscrimanetly started shooting up the compound. This gave the Davidians the right to defend themselves.
zegermandude 1 year ago
@youlance29 They were found innocent by a jury of their peers of murder and conspiracy to commit murder. At the last minute their defense attorneys allowed manslaughter charges to pressed and they were found guilty of that. Which is completely different than murder. Not only was the trial conducted without half of the evidence being present, it was "lost" by the ATF and FBI, there was a horrible bias against them.
If brains were gas you couldnt power a hybrid around a cheerio.
zegermandude 1 year ago
@zegermandude A plea bargain to manslaughter still makes them murderers even if it was under the spell of a homicidal suicidal pedophilic religious nutjob. Someone killed all those agents. don't make excuses for adults.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 You are obviously a biased troll that wouldnt know his/her ass from a hole in the ground. Did you completely miss the fact that nearly all of the evidence that would have proved them innocent or guilty went missing? If we assume that it was accidentally lost then the ATF are the worst kind of incompetent morons (which I think they are), or they are downright devious (which I think they are also). Or are you just mentally retarded? 'Cause if you are I can completely understand.
zegermandude 1 year ago
@zegermandude YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A FELON!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 HAHAHAHAHA You just made my day! Thats the best you could come up with? HAHAHAHAHA. Now that I know that you are either; A. On some really good drugs or B. You are so biased you cant look objectively at the situation and derive the obvious truth from it, I pity you either way.
zegermandude 1 year ago
@zegermandude So i just made a convict's day? Congratulations!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 Even if I was a con it wouldnt mean I couldnt see the truth. Unlike you, a heavily medicated retard.
zegermandude 1 year ago
@zegermandude Listen up convict, respect the law and law enforcement before you get locked up again!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
zegermandude 1 year ago
@zegermandude Look into the mirror and wave to the convict!
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 LOL YOULANCE so you want some more okay. pick one topic
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Ok kool. what gets me excited is hearing about delusional conspiracy theories. The first part of my interview is to hear your story and to rationally debate you in order to access your level of intelligence and delusion. This all leads up to figuring out the MOTIVE or why your persist to be delusional in the fact of facts and logic? is it a anti-govermen stance, mental illness, personal experience in the event, or other ulterior motives.
youlance29 1 year ago
@LADORSEY You also stated that 9/11 was a result of the US gov not al qaeda or bin ladin. I can't figure out your motive for arguing this. Would you like to tell me your motive in declaring that the US government was responsible for 9/11 and that koresh was justified in denying a warrant and killing federal agents? I would like to know your MOTIVE.
the next topic i would like to discuss with you is the JFK assassination or pick another topic-pearl harbor, aliens, ?
DISCUSS
youlance29 1 year ago
4th of July - Independence Day!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
LAND THAT I LOVE!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@LADORSEY JFK Assassination.
Discuss.
youlance29 1 year ago
@LADORSEY i've been waiting now for weeks. JFK, pearl harbor, aliens, pick one and DISCUSS!
youlance29 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Show me the facts that al qeada cockroaches and bin laden weren't responsible for 9/11 and that the US gov is.
youlance29 1 year ago
@LADORSEY I would also like to hear you prove that the US government crashed multiple planes into the twin towers and pentagon on 9/11 and pinning it on al qaeda and bin laden. While you're at it, please tell us about the JFK assassination, pearl harbor, and aliens.
youlance29 1 year ago
same old youlance same old shit!
2326709 1 year ago
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youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 wheres the zr1?? fuck me youre obsessed! jessica alba would be so ashamed!
2326709 1 year ago
@2326709 the only person that would fuck you has a dick between his legs!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 thats no way to talk about jessica alba you sick fuck!
2326709 1 year ago
@2326709 i was talking about your mum!!! lol
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 you wish my mum was jessica alba, is that why you follow me around you gay cunt? lol
2326709 1 year ago
@2326709 too bad your mum is more like gary glitter! lol
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 LOL so thats why you follow me around?? LMFAO!!!!
2326709 1 year ago
7:24 Watch the dumb fuck ATF "agent" shoot
himself in the leg with his own gun when trying to take it out. LOL Serves him right.
ed11561 1 year ago
Does anyone care about this pedophile cult leader? i don't!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 Who cares what u think asshole. May the ATF make up some bullshit
about you & raid your house stupid.
ed11561 1 year ago
Waco is Wacko!!!
ATF FTW!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 asshole 2 year old.
ed11561 1 year ago
@youlance29 Are you really that blind? Did you forget something, for example those children in there? What a great plan to rescue children by gasing them to death, they knew there were no gasmask for children.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki You mean the pedophile wacko at waco torching the children? open your eyes!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 @youlance29 hahaa, i see you've watched your "daily news brodcastings" orchestrated by same people who killed those davidians. They weren't there to catch childmolester or cult leader. warrant was for 200$ unpaid taxes. Theres many documentaries here in youtube about this subject check out.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki the $200 tax was for illegal firearm parts that made their assault riffles fully automatic. they were there for the dozens of automatic assault riffles which killed atf agents and also found about 20 silencers! this guy was a total nut, polygamist and pedophile who torched his own people including 25 children!!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 those modified automatic rifles weren't illegal if you just paid $200 tax. Davidians assembled gun parts into complete guns, which they sold to the public through a licensed dealer that was good business for both parts.
So they were just making business selling firearms.
And what comes to accusations of polygami and pedophilia isn't BATF:s jurisdiction.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki automatic weapons are illegal without the $200 transfer tax for the proper paperwork, fingerprints, passport photos and fbi background check. automatic weapons are heavily regulated so that they don't end up in the hands of criminals or mentally ill individuals. they are trying to own an unregistered machine gun making them ILLEGAL. anyone caught with an unregistered machine gun is a FELONY and automatically handcuffed and jailed.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 Ok, lets forget guns. Even if he had illegal guns and i agree with you on that. Still there was no justifications to how BATF acted.
Kids was innocent for what Koresh did or didn't do.
If Koresh was such and dangerous person BATF:s actions were outright stupid.
linzki 1 year ago
@youlance29 I'm not defending Koresh here, it's about those innocent kids and how government conducted this whole operation. It all points that they went there to kill. Just look how all important evidence was intentionally destroyed while davidians was screaming on the phone that they are destroying evidence.
Lawyer Deguerin, who saw those doors, testified in court: "All the bullet holes I saw had smooth edges from bullets coming from the outside" contrary to what ATF said.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki Who killed the ATF agents then??? Who torched the innocent children???
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 If, and to me all evindence point to that, BATF fired first, those inside had all right to fire back and defend themself. I've gone thru lots of video materia of this and it's plain as day that BATF was shooting at their own people from helicopter.
Why, beats me, but it is so clear, you can see bullets coming from sky and there were no Davidians :D . My good quess is that this whole Waco incident was coverup for WTC bombing 2 days earlier to divert peoples attension elsewhere.
linzki 1 year ago
@youlance29 Have you seen google video named: "Waco The F.L.I.R. Project"
FBI said they didn't fire single shot 4/19. This video says something else. ok, maybe they are clever and right by sayind FBI didn't fire one single shot, because it was delta forces or someone else, see, all bases covered.
And btw FBI used ferret rounds and those can cause fire.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki you are suggesting that the FBI set off the fire with ferret rounds? gunfire can never set off a fire that torched the whole complex. koresh and members poured gasoline throughout the complex and torched everyone inside. bullets did not cause the fire, but GASOLINE poured by koresh did!!! there was no need for him to kill everyone else just because he didn't want to goto jail!!!! It was a tragedy but the blame is 100% on Koresh and his adult followers. the children were 100% innocent.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 It is also higly possible that FBI vehicle knocked over a lantern as it began punching holes in the compound wall. FBI knew BD were using lanterns, because they had cut the power. And they knew that fire was possible, they called hospital to be ready for many fire victims and what i've learned that cs gas and fire together equals to cyanide and you know what cyanide does.
linzki 1 year ago
@youlance29 There is so much cover up, that it is difficult to say where everybody died. Still the "evidence" what we have now, doesn't support official theory.
About cover up: How convinient that of double front entry doors just one was found after the fire and that missing one happens to be the one with bulletholes.
Only that one piece of evidence would have shown that BATF lied.
And there were at least 3 cameras filming when shooting started, now all of those first videotapes are missing.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki FBI knocked over a lantern? how would a lantern engulf the entire complex within minutes? there was an incinerary liquid poured by koresh. truth is, koresh believed this was THE sign from god that he should sacrifice himself and his denomination to start the war with babylon and defeat the new world order. sounds far fetched huh? that's because koresh was a HOMICIDAL RELIGIOUS NUTJOB!!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@linzki No one has a right to fire on and kill ATF agents. NO ONE!!! they are a federal agency with a WARRANT. Koresh should have surrendered day 1 and fight it in court not with a 30day standoff!!! Multiple ATF agents were shot by Koresh's goons with illegal automatic assault rifles not by their own agents!!! It was proved through live video and forensics evidence afterwards!!! Koresh torched 25 children!!! WTC bombing was done by radical muslims having nothing to do with waco!!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 Law says citizens have the right to self-defense against excessive force by law enforcement agents. BATF:s warrant was of the kind where you knock on the door, and state your legal business. Only if the authorities are denied entrance is it allowed to force entry. What would you do if they came to your house running and start immediately shoot through the door.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki The problem with your argument is that koresh denied entrance after ATF knocked on his door. he should have given up right there and lay flat on his stomach. If ATF came to my home to serve me a warrant, i would let them in not close the door and threaten them with automatic weapons from 50 other adults!!!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 About WTC bombing 1993:
Google this: "Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast"
There's NewYorkTimes article about bombing.
Ok, maybe it is better not to expand this conversation over other subjects, lets keep it in Waco. this space is so limited for long writings.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki And what do you think about 9/11? you probably believe 9/11 was planned by the cia not bin laden. are you really serious about all your government conspiracy theories? you either hate america or you're truly blind!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 Here we go. Just throw in conspiracy theory argument to avoid look at the facts. Governments actions points to that there is way too much "coinsidences.
Even 9/11 falls in that category.
linzki 1 year ago
@linzki please tell us all about 9/11.
youlance29 1 year ago
@linzki seriously, i'm still waiting for your story of 9/11. i would luv to hear another delusional conspiracy theory. if you have the time, please tell us about the JFK assassination too! pretty please!
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Inside job by who?
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 9/11 was in inside job by our goverment who else.
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Who else? how about the dozen al qaeda terrorists that crashed the planes into buildings at the order of bin laden?
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 the official explanation dont make any sense...the pentagon was it by a plane yet they wont allow the pulic to see the tape not one tape of the incident yet there are over 100hundred camera around the pentagon. how about building seven that wasnt hit yet it fell on its own what about shanksville they didnt find any human remians cmon stop being so guilable...like our gobvermnet hasnt lied to us before
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY the tape of the plane crashing into the pentagon has been shown on public tv around the world. you can find it on youtube or google with a quick search. so how do you dispute the facts of al qaeda members caught on tape, voice, and their remains in the planes they crashed? how do you dispute that bin laden has publicly taken responsibility for the attack? You like to focus on a small "fuzzy" detail of the attack without looking at the indisputable facts right in front of you. why?
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 i saw the tape and it doesnt show a a plane hitting the pentagon and what about building 7 of the wtc which was host to the CIA ,DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, and THE SECRET SERVICE yet it fell at free fall speed with no resistance and it wasnt hit by a plane youlance29 can you aknowledge my question with a reasonable answear id appereciat it but if you cant then ill understand
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY building 7 collapsed due to structural failure from the debris of the north tower collapse. building 7 lacked a modern fire suppression system and eventually gave way to fire and structural collapse. Please acknowlegde who the al qaeda members were, who coordinated the mulitple plane attacks, and who bin laden is. Who EXACTLY is responsible for 9/11 if not al qaeda and bin laden? Can you acknowledge my question with reasonable answer i appreciate it but if you can't ill not understand
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 the officiall report says osama bid laden was behind the attack yet theirs no proof what so ever besides a tape which was convientley found that said that he did it. there were 19 hijackers that left incriminating eveidence at the seen like two passports that was found intact at the crash site yet the fir ewas so hot that it melted steel oh yeah mahommad atta accidently left a luggage at the airport, in side were the names of all 19 hijackers
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY So you're saying the 19 muslim hijackers and bin laden had nothing to do with 9/11?? Then, please tell us who is responsible.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 osama said he was responsible for 9/11 then how come the goverment have no proof, evidents or anything that ties osama ben laden to 9/11. the goverment refused to investigate who financed the so called terrorist . all you have is a tape that says he did it and that was enough to pull back from investigating who and how it was financed. the cia was told to back off from all futher investigation . show me somthing that ties osama to the crime scene
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY How does the US gov not have proof of bin laden and al qeada commiting 9/11? Ever heard of the flight data recorders of their voices? how about video of them at the airport and seized laptops and letters? How about their dead bodies? Show me how the US government was responsible for crashing multiple planes, destroying multiple buildings, and killing thousands on 9/11. holy shit you're delusional! while you're at it, please tell us who killed JFK.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 oh we have answears how did the so called hijackers get pass NORAD, how come there are no video footage that shows a plane htting the pentagon, the footage that you reffered to me dosent show a plane flying into the pentagon, why does building 7 fall in a pancake fashion just because of fire and some debris, if the hijackers were on board the plane how come there name wasnt on teh flight manifest
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Norad and pentagon? there you go again trying to detract from the big picture by arguing small details which you feel are controversial. norad never had this happen so they were unprepared for civilian hijackings. buliding 7 feel due to debris and fire damage from n tower. pentagon security cameras are on still image .5s delay impossilbe to accurately record a 560mph plane. If there was no video of the planes crashing into the twin towers, does that mean no plane crashed into it? lol
youlance29 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Please tell us who exactly crashed those planes and killed thousands of Americans on 9/11 if not al qeada members. go ahead and tell us who else could have hijacked the planes and committed suicide.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 building 7 fell in its own foot print, secondly debris and fire did damage the building but the steel colums still would have been standing in the air. 3rd never in the history of the world has fire and debris knocked a building with steel columns down at a free fall pace before. and 4larry silverstein admitted that the building was pulled .
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY Please tell us who and what was responsible for the Twin Tower collapse and building 7? Go ahead.
youlance29 1 year ago
@youlance29 THE U.S GOVERMENT
LADORSEY 1 year ago
@LADORSEY The US government did what exactly?
youlance29 1 year ago
@linzki i've given you a week now to formulate your 9/11 and JFK theories. please get back to me ASAP!!
youlance29 1 year ago
1984 world Mental health meet in Pureto Rico, said 1/4 World had mental problems, by then selling Cola's in 195 Countries 11 Territories, it has hexaFluorsilic ACID falsely labled Sodium, its a NeuroToxin in the Brain, watch films close at FluoridAction, Fluoride makes people feel bad, depression, NWO wonts Chemically controlled world, take Magnesium before each meal, Purify water add 1/4 Teaspoon full of IODIZED sEA SALT GALthis will break ADDICTION to Cola two weeks see FIAT EMPIRE, Mk-Ultra
deadadelta 2 years ago
Also see Book WHY WACO by Dr.TABOR, See Rules of Engadgement 2hr Documentary Nominated for an Academay Award, I help establish Det Delta, I give them them M21 Series special weapons B-Squad used at WACO, B Squad also set a Shape Charge Above the Bunker where they knew the Children and Old People were, WACO was just a Preview of things to come, google Martial Law, Rex84 and Operation Garden Plot, google FIAT EMPIRE, and they have Americans Drugged with NeuroToxin see FILMS at FLUORIDEACTION,
deadadelta 2 years ago 2
@deadadelta what about the fact they have been putting fluoride in the water for many years now. That is no secret, I remember as a kid I lived in a town with no fluoride in the water so the school would make us take it in cups and swish it around and spit it out.
vanight 2 years ago
Wow a bag of dog chit baby burning Pig vomit ciriminal filth
charged the victims with murder? and the people did what?
gulped down more fluoride? and changed the channel?
TheTruthPusher 2 years ago
treon123456 is onto something. i've seen some false flag stuff like what he said. 9/11 and ok city. check out randy weaver. that was'nt a false flag event but, it's still crap as to the way our government treats it's people in order to satisfy it's agenda.
debunkdafunk 2 years ago
tim mcviegh vvas still breathing vvhen they took him out of the chamber....3 vvitnesses stated.....he vvas a cia operative.....look up vvhat really happened at oklahoma city!that vvas....like 9/11......a false flag event....to neutralize the militias and remove our 2nd amendment rights!
treon123456 2 years ago
@treon123456 It has not happened yet. Gun sales have skyrocketed since the election of Obama
MiddletownDreamz 2 years ago
Sociopaths aside...
3,000 degree temperatures!
People are so stupid.
MrSammo1 2 years ago
One American had balls. Tim McVeigh. He died like a fucking man.
lid107 2 years ago
I agree. He completed his mission.
bharfarar 2 years ago
He may not have been right killing kids, but he did take his case to the public- many naive people don't support his CAUSE because they don't support his TACTICS- but to punish to gov. for what it did to innocents- we're lucky someone at least took it to the media.
Just wish he had done it in a different way.
Mirani2 2 years ago
The government couldn't have cared less about the kids in Waco. All of a sudden they're outraged? Fuck them. Kids and all.
lid107 2 years ago 2
look at the footage from parts 1 through 12. does anyone see any teltail puffs of dirt being kicked up around the atf as to indicate fire coming from within the compound? also it was after the atf climbed on the roof and broke through the window and entered inside did i see what looked like fire coming from within. i think david was telling the truth. if they were truly ready for it, the atf guys on the roof would not have made it inside and the atf out front, well, many would have been hurt.
logictoo 2 years ago