Simon Gagne disallowed goal against Penguins, CSN Feed

[Wbjpen]

I knew why they disallowed it before I watched the video, the title had "Penguins" in it, so I just assume that was the reason.

[seiver1088]

Its in the rules, no conclusive evidence the puck was in. No goal

[NuclearPotatoSalad]

@seiver1088 FSN Pitt had conclusive evidence but didn't send it to Toronto. Goal.

[seiver1088]

@NuclearPotatoSalad um, no every video review is now sent to toronto for conclusive evidence the puck crossed the goal line. If toronto says its a goal, its a goal... if not.. .well i hope you are smart enough to figure that out. Thank you and have a nice day.

[chaosof99]

@seiver1088 Jesus. Please read the description of the video. FSN Pittsburgh did not send all angles to video review and the goal was disallowed because the angle that showed the puck in was not sent. A producer at FSN Pittsburgh was suspended because of it. Plenty of articles regarding the incident in the description. I uploaded this video for comparison. Unfortunatley the video of the FSN Pitt feed of the same incident has been taken down.

[NuclearPotatoSalad]

@seiver1088 Yes, people in Toronto determine if it is a goal or not, but all the TV feeds send clips of the play to give the guys in Toronto clips tow ork with. FNS Pitt had conclusive evidence that this was a goal, but they did not send it. It was not Toronto's fault, it was FNS Pitt's.

[ebman3]

lololol good call by referee, not enough evidence so was a good call

[ys0ser10usss]

@ebman3 Yep, because FSN Pittsburgh didn't send the video where it was a conclusive goal. Good call by Toronto, but rotten by the Penguins broadcast organization. I'm sure if the Comcast Philly did this, every fan in the NHL would know about it and it would be a headline story on ESPN.

[Losingstreakk]

only against philly. toronto hates us.

by the way, you fuckin penguins fans talk shit on us, but at least we've been there for our team nonstop. you guys took a nice 15 year break to start following the pens again once they got crosby and they hit their stride. fuck you guys.

[upskirtdrummer2212]

Pfft obviously it wasn't a goal.

[IrishHeroMan]

That was a goal. Terrible call. This was just like Brad May's goal for Detroit last year. Puck was clearly in, you could see it. Still no goal. Bad refs last season for everyone it seems.

[hatecrewsj]

what clearly hurt the flyers there was an asshole on the shittsburgh payroll

[theboredkid100]

i think its in

[unreal103]

Referees kissing up to pittsburgh at it's finest.

[RedWingsFan2010]

PENGUINS SUCK!!! THERE FANS ARE BANDWAGON FANS..THEY ALL NEED TO BURN IN ONE BIG FIRE... THE FSN PISSBURGH SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN.

[hugoboss190]

Its a goal for Simon Gagne

[phillyfanmatt]

2 more reasons why the Penguins are assholes.

1. Their network LIED to the league, and aided in an action (or lack of) that impacted a decision made in the game.

2. Black pads should not be allowed my goalies. Thats bullshit.

[TimCaine1994]

that refs is fuckin' blind. just another bettman move to help the nhl's favorite team.

[Poleaseocifer]

Toronto screwed the Flyers over on numerous occasions through out the season. They have disallowed numerous obvious goals that they were asked to review. Just lets you know how the league feels about them. Makes no sense.

[JAlexander1018]

philadelphia is a great city i would love to live there!! face it pittsburgh your city is boring small lame dirty with all ugly people eww i dont like that city..if you consider it a city idk lol

[intoodeep941]

at least that producer got in deep shit for this. pens are a bunch of cheaters

[JamesC666]

# 21 Don Van massenhoven has blown so many nhl games that ref. Its a good thing his poor positioning didnt cost the flyers that game.

[modernwarfare2freak0]

go flyers penguins suck go flyers go flyers this is your year

[Knightmessenger]

was this the game where the ref further away had the official call on the ice because they didn't consult prior to the video review? Or something like that?

[nhllover885]

Turns out the guy who neglected to send the review from FSN was a former Pens player's son. (Lowell MacDonald Jr, son of Lowell MacDonald.)

He is being suspended from FSN. He did try to bias it.

[dbhawks05]

penguins cheat

[chak3226]

No I don't because they didn't build it, they sucked for year after year and got high lottery picks. That's not building that's welfare from the league.

[commie311]

Pittsburgh isn't even a real city. It's a dwindling former steel town on the verge of bankruptcy that has been bailed out just like the Penguins were bailed out by Bettman, Rendell, and Lemieux to stay out of Kansas City. Their average home attendance in 2004 was 11,877. They don't even deserve a hockey team. Top 2 overall picks for four years in a row do wonders... :roll: What a joke of a franchise, and they get rewarded for flopping with a cup.

[ecszone]

for the record any more of your remarks are falling on deaf ears. I am unsubscribing from this. I really just dont care to waste time arguing with you.  I never get involved in these comments and now I remember why.

[ecszone]

YOur argument is just calling people names and making fun of english? I typed that most of that wrong on purpose because i was making fun ov u. you just dint katch on. You never argue a valid point. The flyers are actually one of the most consistently good teams in the league. The fan base of the flyers embarrass the penguins. Its really not even a conversation to have. You just look like an idiot. If you see cindy ask him to tone down his diving for our next game. embarrassment!

[ecszone]

Cant trust that town though. First a player cuts his salary (mario) to keep the team from going bankrupt. The league should have required he get paid a fair market value. ANd a player should not be allowed to be a owner. Then they just happen to get the lottery during the lockout year... steal poor chicago's 1st round pick.. .. they are a shaddy group. I been to games in there dump stadium. Bunch of fkn wierdo's.

[PensFanE17]

Oh, and Philly fans are prestine memebers of society? Shut the fuck up moron.

[edawglemon]

yeah well you're from pittsburgh, which just sucks

[PensFanE17]

Right, I was crying the entire time during our THREE championship parades over the past 5 years. I guess if you want to count the Philadelphia Soul, you had two.

[chak3226]

Not too hard to win a championship when you suck year after year and are handed high draft picks by the league as a reward for shitty play.. Tell me this: Do the Pengirls win without  the picks of Crybaby, Malkin, and Fleury? Doubt it. Maybe they should tank a few more years, then they could match the Islanders and Oilers of the 80's for Stanley Cups. No one other than the Penguin fans has any respect for the way they "built" their championships. Enjoy the Cup the NHL basically handed you.

[PensFanE17]

You don't have respect for the way the Pens "built" their championship? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Flyers haven't "built" anything but an Arena for decades. So forgive me for not taking stock into anything you have to say.

Its also hilarious Flyer fans call him "Crybaby" when the only ones crying are you. Just keep your tissues ready, becuase this entire decade is going to suck for Philly.

[petiepablo2342]

Its well we dont suck the commissioner's dick for a lottery draft pick... and this is the only team thats doing good in pitt, baseball sucks, football sucks, and no basketball or soccer or even lacrosse teams. Sucks to live in Pitt, the steel piece of shit city

[PensFanE17]

Right, that crappy football team that WON LAST YEAR YOU MORON. What Super Bowl have you won?

Keep running your mouth, Pittsburgh kicks this shit out of Philly.  It's not even close.

[mynameisbob3]

your a fucking idiot. the only reason you watch the steelers is because they win you faggot. pittsburgh is a joke of a city. philly is the greatest sports town in america. any athlete would rather play there than pittsburgh. even rj umberger said so. any team could win the cup with bettmans help and four number one picks. go back to the pittsburgh bandwagon homo

[PensFanE17]

Haha, your only defense is "you only watch cause your team wins"? Sorry for actually having a sucessfull franchise unlike your shit teams. As far as any athlete wanting to play in philly, how about you ask McNabb how he feels about that. You treat your athletes like shit because you are a bunch of assholes.

[mynameisbob3]

yea cause the pirates dont win and no one goes to pirate games. if Mcnabb doesnt like playing here then why does he keep getting contract extensions. philly is a large market unlike pittsburgh and mcnabb gets paid a shit load to win. hes gone to five nfc champioship games so he should have won a superbowl. and our athletes dont get treated like shit. rj umberger even said he still wishes he played for philly and hitchcock wishes he still coached here.

[edawglemon]

we treat them like shit, because theyre getting paid MILLIONS. so why not get mad when they dont play well? no superbowls, only 2 world series championships, only 2 stanley cup championships...but yet we sell out EVERY single eagles game, and almost all flyers and phillies games. in fact, in the flyer's 06-07 season (worst in franch. history) our average attendance was still 19,283 (98.9% capacity). in 03-04 when the pens had the worst nhl record, they only filled 69% of the seats. BANDWAGON!!!!

[TGalanos]

How often has your "successful" franchise claimed bankruptcy in its short history? You should get all the facts before you talk about shitty teams dick.

[edawglemon]

the eagles beat the steelers last year.

[nhllover885]

I might have some respect for the way they 'built' the championships if they did it strategically through trading or picking good players with a bad pick. But they gave you top picks because you sucked so hard they wanted a change. The Flyers aren't great. Know why? Because they had a strong presence throughout the 70's, 80's, and 90's, so they got shitty picks when the Penguins got Crosby and Malkin and Fleury. We'd be on top if WE had those guys.

[petiepablo2342]

if only everyone saw this comment, well said chak3226

[petiepablo2342]

At least our teams are safe from thinking of relocating to Las Vegas

[mynameisbob3]

not only that but there is100x more pressure to play sports here than shittsburgh. if a player fucks up everyone will know and we will be talking about it for weeks. look at ruslan fetedanko. he couldnt score a damn goal for the flyers and now he scores a lot with the lightning and now the penguins. we just care more about sports here in philly than pittsburgh. i would hate to be a fan there because no one cares about you. the penguins parade was cute though. 300000 people. what a joke

[PensFanE17]

Well in Pittsburgh we use capital letters and punctuation. The Philly public school system is in full force with this moron. And its pretty sad that the only thing you can point to is "parade attendance". We have 300,000-500,000 people in Pittsburgh. Greater Philly has somewhere over 5 million. So while over half the city showed up for our parade, you couldn't even get a 1/4 of your asses down there. That's pretty pathetic.

[edawglemon]

way to skew that stats buddy. if youre gonna look at greater philadelphia, then you gotta look at greater pittsburgh. greater philly has 5.8 mil, greater pittsburgh has 2.4 mil. of course thats a HUGE difference, but the fact that pittsburgh's population is DECREASING doesnt help your cause too much. why are they leaving? cause its a shit TOWN

[mynameisbob3]

philly has 1.4 million people in it and 2.5 million people showed up. i guess thats what people leanr in the pittsburgh school system. i am not in the philly school system i am in the suburbs which has some of the best schools. stop making up numbers for the phillies parade. our parade was bigger better crazier and the plyers actually cared to be there. and its youtube no one gives a shit about spelling. thats pittsbugh fans only comeback when flyers fan own them. Philly>shittsburgh

[gkyankees14]

this might sound immature, but with all honesty, philly fans have to be the stupidest fans out there. wether it be eagles fans or flyers fans

[YargDisease]

@gkyankees14 You dont know anything and your going strictly based on people you talk shit to on youtube most likely. Talk to a Philly fan in person Pussy.

[tslabjr7]

@PensFanE17 you want to know whats pretty pathetic?the fact that your arena is the smallest in the hole NHL!

Philly was meant for hockey! you want to know why we are targeted? cause ever last Philadelphia team would stack in a fight! we are the bad asses of sports! and we like it! don't come into our house! you see what we do to out side fans! your arena putts the shit in shitsburgh! you the reason why Pa is probably the next target! scientist believe the ozone will break over shitsburgh first!

[nhllover885]

Phillies vs. Cardinals. People killed in street fights between fans (no Phils fans were killed)...

Scares me to think people would oppose that.

[tslabjr7]

yeah i don't contribute to it! i am just awaring you how it works! don't show up to game with the opponent's jersey on! unless you want to get jumped!

[nhllover885]

I love how there was never EVER a fucking Youtube account with Pens, Penguins, or Crosby in it before 2008. Now all I see is 'GoodDayForHockey87', 'SidTheKid87', 'PensFanE17', 'Malkin4MVP71' and much more...

[ecszone]

i love my flyers.. but saying the refs screw the flyers over all the time is a little exageration. I do think if you take the missed calls in both directions we would definatly get the short end of the stick. but i acknowledge im biased. I try not to be though.

[xILovePepsix]

This is a perect example of how the nhl screws the flyers over all the time, they obviously knew that puck was in, the goalie pushed it out, and they still call it no goal, its just really embarrssing what they do the the flyers, it happened all the time in the playoffs, pussy crosby slides into marty and theres no call, but thats a goal, its a shame, 7-4 win, fuck the pens, go flyers

[PEEPEETINGLE]

This was not the NHL's fault actually. the referee was not given a conclusive angle from the FSN Pittsburgh crew member working at the time. And now that person has been suspended by FSN, and the Penguins club has supported the decision, saying they were happy it didn't affect the outcome, and that the integrity of the game is paramount.

[PensFanE17]

It's not the NHL's fault Philly hasn't had a capable goalie since Ron Hextall.

[SIoyvenheaven1]

And it's not the NHL's fault that Crysby has ovaries, get over it.

[ecszone]

you guys really look like dooshbags now that its proven missed obvious call and Penguin doosh cheated. What a doosh to throw away your career to try and help your team win. Pathetic organization. They be gone if mario dint cheat. Damn coal miners could not keep it going on there own. :o

[PEEPEETINGLE]

Where did you learn grammar and spelling?

[PensFanE17]

I see you hit another line of coke before you typed this comment. English dumbass, not hard to use.

[mawrpawr]

Flyers fans are the absolute lowest on the food chain. They won the game handily and they still complain! I guess I'd complain too if I were a Flyers fan and had to live in Philadelphia ; )

[SIoyvenheaven1]

Shut the fuck up, bitch. Flyers fans are the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

[mawrpawr]

thank you maam..you just proved my point excactly. Real classy language. How old are you , 20? This is too easy..lol.

[SIoyvenheaven1]

Now, now, jealousy is such a wasted emotion.

[PensFanE17]

Unless you look at wins and cups, then its pretty obvious the Pens are better.

[SIoyvenheaven1]

Bullshit. Look at the all-time match up between the Flyers and pens, the Flyers OWN them. It's not even close. The Flyers are by FAR the better franchise, it's a joke to even compare the two.

[edawglemon]

that doesnt even make sense...

[petiepablo2342]

Well if you count this game... yeah i think we know the clear winner

[chaosof99]

So you approve of a TV network screwing over a player and significantly impacting the decision making of the NHL in regards to games?

Sorry, this is not about who won or whose fan you are, but about willfully damaging the reputation of the league and the integrity of the game.

[soupnazi45]

@chaosof99 ummm, whats the difference if you win 5-3 or 6-3? you still won...so shut the fuck up, its not like that Letang call last night, that was obvious! stupid ass flyers fans

[chaosof99]

@soupnazi45 Did you even read what I wrote before you posted this? Do you actually want a TV network to be capable of withholding footage and impacting the video review process?

I don't even care that it's Pens vs. Flyers. I just happened to see it live, but I'd be equally outraged if it was Phoenix vs. Columbus or if someone from CSN Philadelphia did it. This simply can't be defended and can't be ignored, regardless of the teams, and regardless of the final score.

[m4x0wnzu14]

@chaosof99 Yeah I agree. It's irrelevant as to who the teams are, it's about the ineffective manner in which the league is reviewing it's "goals." having network's continually fuck over hockey is unacceptable, except let's face it, Gary Bettman will do nothing about it.

[YargDisease]

@mawrpawr You dont seem to understand yet....Refs Wont let us Play hockey with the penguins. How do you not see that? Those little pussies are protected like bald eagles. The pull this no goal shit on us Every time we play the pens. And Philly is MUCH nicer than shittsburg dude hate to tell you.

[chak3226]

There was no fucking doubt about it that it was a goal. Gagne got screwed out of a milestone, and short handed too. Anybody think that if this were in Philadelphia and it was the Penguins little bitch of a captain that the outcome would have been different?

[rpm2night]

Chak, they would have definitely called it in favor of the Penguins if it was the other way around, and the puck was in the Flyers net. Say the scenario was that it was obvious the puck didn't cross the line, they would have still awarded it to the Penguins, ESPECIALLY if Crosbitch touched it last.

[makemyaday]

@rpm2night lol this is so wrong its unbelievable. And i dont even like the Pens or Crosby. But this comment was laughable

[nopiratekinghere1]

@rpm2night Bitch or not, Crosby is still on pace for a 50-goal season.

[ShiftStyle]

Same thing happened with the Devils against the Bruins...Thomas PUSHED IT OUT and you see the Puck escaping from the line...