Gujranwala in Pakistan is where most of the ebay "custom" knives come from. but that doesn't mean there that bad. i've gotten a few and really like them. it just depends on the company heat treating and QC them. on ebay custom.knife is pretty good overall and they also do 01 mono blades. its no 1000 custom, but not bad for general use. I'd say on par with 1095 steel in general, also just as good as cold steel's sk-5 more or less, sk5 may be tougher. 01 is equal i think. what you guys think.
This is pretty big news if you make damascus steel. The skill have been lost for several hundred years, and even the scientists can't reproduce the craft!
@BelRiose2000 "True" Damascus steel was "wootz" (bulat) crystaline crucible steel in the Tartaric and Persian tradition and not folded steel as often suposed. Neither technology was ever lost or discontinued, just abandoned by industry in Europeanized countries. Medieval European swords were all forge-welded layered steel, and most European swords were such through at least the early 1700s.
@TOMHYLE88 It is just weird that people call this layered steel Damascus steel when they are two completely different kinds of forging. There haven't been a Damascus steel sword since 1700, and the scientists don't know how to re-make them.
@BelRiose2000 There are some people making bulat and bulat blades in either Russia or otherwise Slavia/Eastern Europe, who claim an unbroken tradition, and at least two in the USA who say they've recreated the processes. Purist sword collectors say their work is notably different than that of the past. I don't know of an aspect of blades such persons do not say that about though. Antique bulat blades show a variety of forging and heat treats. Improper hardening or welding will destroy the grain.
@BelRiose2000 They do not know how to recreate the exact pattern true, however many similar patterns have been made. pattern welding is the correct technical term, however since the crusaders first called it Dasmascus steel, it has stuck for any similar product to this day. The name sounds cooler. :)
@GuthixSet this process developed around the world, and in damascus the crusaders came across pattern welded steel. which is known as damascus steel. in the process you take different types of steel and heat them up until they reach a welding temperature where the surface of the metal actually becomes molten enough that when you hit it the different peices are fused together. this is repeated until the layer count is where you want it. then it is etched to show the pattern made in this process.
how good is Damascus Steel for Swords and Weapons? i read that Damascus is the Strongest/Sharpest for blades (i have Fantasy Blade ideas) and also is it possible to make a Gun shape in this Steel (i'm hoping this is possible for a design i have planned for this Movie i wish to make"
@innerguardianXIII Damascus is used to refer to 2 different types of steel. The pattern welded steel shown here. And the crucible steel that was used ages ago to make weapons. What I have seen suggests that the original damascus steel isn't that amazing, and that it was merely better than the other steels of the period, which really sucked. Patten welded steel like shown in this video can make great weapons as long as you use the right steels and the heat treat is right.
@innerguardianXIII I think they make some guns with pattern welded steel, but I'm not sure. You'd have to find a real gunsmith or metallurgist to find out if it will work well.
As the man who literally wrote the book(s) on pattern welding (Look up HRISOULAS) I would say you are off to a good start. For the ignorant...I have set welds using a stick to close the layers together. It is all a matter of clean surfaces and the right temps. Nice air hammer you got here...
@shittyfuck Borax raises the temperature of the metal to a point where it can be welded together. The technique has a few names, commonly it is called forge welding. Actually the name of the technique he is using is called forded crucible steel. Due to the various impurities int he steel he is using they cool at different heats and thus making that look.
he's holding the hammer wrong, a hammer should always be held at the end of the handle, not near the head. that way you get better control and more leverage.
@EmperorOfMars Its pattern welded, also a historical method used by almost everyone at one point for making swords. Historically it was done to homogonize the steel due to the lack of consistancy in iron, (some was high carbon some was low carbon) This would have been done to get a more even steel for a better sword. Now that we have consistant steels its done for aesthetic purposes
only 1 comment why does a hammer haves a long wooden stick where you can hold it? because you have to hold it on the end of the stick not near the head of the hammer !
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@Yoona1991 haha idiot look at al blacksmiths and farriers around the world why does it have a long stick then for nothing i think you need a little lesson or 2
@swaffellen actually, the way you hold your hammer is a personal preference that has to do with ergonomics and what is most comfortable for the user. that, and accuracy.
@delta2131 i understand what you are saying butt wenn you are holding the hammer at the end of the stick you have the most power and you can hammer al day whitout getting tyred wenn you do it like this your arm is sore after a few days
@swaffellen You seem to know nothing on forging, if I want more power on hammerin then I would use at the end of the stick. In this case it was all about accuracy.
@swaffellen do not speak if your ignorance is your only basis. you have most likely never even touched much less swung a forge hammer. i will not explain beyond a doubt that yoona1991 is right. swinging a hammer from the end of the handle generates a larger arc, and more power, but when you need to be accurate, choking up is a must. a smaller arc means more control, and less chance to hit the metal with the edge of the hammer. choked up hits are called planishing hits, to smooth and slowly shape
@swaffellen Retard is retarded, you use the end of the handle for power in such things as forge welding or drawing, and you hold it toward the top for accuracy and precision (such as forging bevels into blades and such).. have a seat
@Breathor you are al stupid fucks you always hold a hammer at the end of the stick why do you think there is such a long handle on a hammer? if you want a more accurate swing get a smaller (lighter) hammer wenn want more power get a bigger(heavyer) hammer wenn you hold the handle to short to the top your hand is gonna hurt after a while and it getting hot wenn you are busy for a while
@swaffellen You are obviously not a smith, also... why would i want to listen to some jackass basement virgin tell me how to do something when he cant even spell "all" correctly. have a seat
@Yoona1991 please ignore this asshole i mean to make a damascus dagger or sword one day this guy can fuck off,if youve built a forge or tried anything in the forging world you know more than Mr.swaffellen please teach us more
@swaffellen Trust me, you use your hammer at various places on the handle. It's a lot less about accuracy, however, and a lot more about power. The farther from the head you place your hands, the more leverage you get, meaning more power. He is just rounding the edges, he is not trying to obliterate it. The power hammer is when the real power needs to come into place and if he used a hammer he would have used it at the end of the handle.
@swaffellen Trust me, you use your hammer at various places on the handle. It's a lot less about accuracy, however, and a lot more about power. The farther from the head you place your hands, the more leverage you get, meaning more power. He is just rounding the edges, he is not trying to obliterate it. The power hammer is when the real power needs to come into place and if he used a hammer he would have used it at the end of the handle.
Nice setup. Never done it that way before, always just did some stamping, although I hate the term "damascus steel" because all the fantasy geeks think it can cut through anything.
@swaffellen you dumb fuck! 1st off this is not blacksmithing this is bladesmithing it's a huge difference you should know that 1st! 2nd if steel is hot you can't, mustn't hit it hard it will fall apart I don't think you've ever forged anything!
@swaffellen When hammering metal the recoil when having your hand further away causes it to bounce back causing unwanted warping in the metal and damage to your hand.
@jackdog20 if you're using a higher carbon steel ( tool grade; commonly referred to)
the welding heat should be lower, also, be careful to be proficient with your ability to hammer weld, as if it delaminates later on during the process and correct it, it may still come out as a reasonable piece, but its better to be safer about your abilities and have a good quality piece. i recommend practicing welds!
but then even with my favourtistm of japanese tamahagane as a steel/iron, its the chinese who have been using water driven power hammers, essentially pattern welded steel to make the blades carbon content uniform and for different properties for 6000+ years! its amazing what they did, but war ravaged thier countries and many items and forges were lost in fires, but some remain still!
I can watch this video again, again and again. Great! Those hammer strokes are awesome with great music. When you are doing damascus it doesn't looks like it is difficult =)
thats really interesting, but then i guess the forging procces developed by the smiths in damascus must have been different, or it would have been called wootz, found in damascus or not. but that is interesting, it is simula to that of tamahagane, but not as pure a form coming from an ore instead of a sand. but the whole different irons and steels withing the woots bloom and tamahagane bloom must be simular in the variations of that!
you shoudn't wear a glove on your hammer hand! reduces grip and accuracy, and its def pattern welded steel, if its not from damascus, its not damascus, just like champagne! but it looks gd
technically damasucus was a particular stell mined and smelted in India where they called it Wootz steel. it was called damasucus steel because the crusaders either found it in italy or because the smith they found using that was his name either way it came from india to begin with. but sadly those mines went dry and there is no true "damasucus steel" pattern welded steel looks like damasucus but it isn't.
no..that would be called wootz steel, once again damascus steel is from damascus. not italy, not named after a smith atall. there are many types of patter welded steel around the world, each with thier own names for it, and sometimes a slightly different process. damascus is from damascus. it has nothing to do with india am afraid. damascus is steel folded over and over, folded to spread carbon content to have a uniform blade,
a bi-product of this was patternation due to differnt parts of the bloom having differnt carbon content, therefor a slightly different colour/shade when tempered correctly and polished/ground. many countries have something simular, but its not the same.
i didn't mean to type italy idon't know what is was thinking i meant to type. because the crusaders found it in damasucus. they called it damasucus steel because they first encountered it there. but the steel used in those blade was smined in india and smelted there and also in Sri Lanka then sold and used by smiths but the crusaders found swords sith the steel first in damasucus but it is really indian steel that the indians called wootz steel
how are they doing that are they smelting it and adding the same elements in it that are in wootz steel? if they are thats awesome. are there videos of that if there are please tell me what the names are
That's how wootz is made. It's iron ore smelted in a crucible with a certain recipe. If you look here on youtube for smelting wootz and look for NiHyNeN. His name is Nico, and the wootz he posts on Don Fogg's site is amazing.
tässä nyt tuli vielä vaan mieleen että kun katsoin muita yputube videoita damascus teräs puukkojen valmistuksesta nii he tekivat siihen uria jotta se kuvio olisin erilainen. minkälainen kuvio siihen tulee jos ei tee mitään uria?
Erilaisia tapoja tehdä kuvioita on monia. Vaihtoehtoina on varmaan miljoonia erilasia kuvioita. Itse taoin lopuksi pakan pitemmäksi "pötköksi ja kiersin 360astetta ja lopuksi taoin taas lataksi näin saa ihan simppelin kuvion helposti. Toiseen pakkaan josta kaverini kanssa tein näyttö työn koululla kaiversin rälläkällä uria ristiin ja taoin lataksi josta muotoilin puukon.
juu-u. meinasin tänään ruveta takomaan ensimmäistä damascus teräs puukkoani. ja minua ei haittaa ollenkaan et muoto pitaa hioa. teen kaikki puukkoni sillä tekniikalla
Onhan se haastavempaa hommaa ku kaiken pitää mennä kerralla nappiin tai uusiks menee. Mutta kun tuon oppii niin kyllä se siitä lähtee. Se huono puoli tässä on kun on pakan tehnyt niin sitä ei enää kannata takoa muotoon (esim, puukko) vaan pitää hiomalla muoto hakea, ettei kuvio mene sotkuiseksi.
Nice Stuff man! , I forge, like POORMANS FORGING kind of forging, you see, im kinda like 15.. so i cant afford everything like a forge.. but sledge hammers n stuff gets me some knives going. i've made many already.. And i wanted to say that, where i live theres an aluminium company. (alcan, Owned by Alcoa, in canada,Quebec..).. well theres a train and its full of COKE* (not the drug), And thats oil residues, and its better than coal it dosnt burn up it can burn on its own for over an hour,try it
A lot of blacksmith tools and hardware can be easily improvised. Don't spend a ton of money when you can find something cheap in the scrapyard that will easily substitute it.
I wish I had an anvil and forge. I made a crude small machetti with one serrated side though, using a piece of train track rail and pieces of chromed iron, lol.
It's a piece of shit though, because it's only pounded cold, so I had to make it super thick and unbalanced.
really nice vid about making Damascus steel ;) me and my friend want to make some damast too but i think it will be extremly hard cause we havn't got a power hammer ......
Thank you. You dont need a powerhammer if you got bigger original hammer (like 20-30lbs) the other guy holds the pack on the anvil and other hits it with the bigger hammer. And chance places when the hammerguy gets tired.
this might be a stupid question, but what is the borax for?
ccsniper 1 week ago
@ccsniper The borax is a flux. A flux is a material that helps create a clean and strong weld.
RedSun875 6 days ago
my ears!
billymayer1000 1 month ago
One question, how do I make a simple forge that burns enough to make the steel?
ConorC96 2 months ago
@ConorC96 check my vid i made one for real cheap,do you have a welder by chance?if so you could do one real easy
MrJsowa 1 month ago
@MrJsowa
I don't think so.
ConorC96 1 month ago
Gujranwala in Pakistan is where most of the ebay "custom" knives come from. but that doesn't mean there that bad. i've gotten a few and really like them. it just depends on the company heat treating and QC them. on ebay custom.knife is pretty good overall and they also do 01 mono blades. its no 1000 custom, but not bad for general use. I'd say on par with 1095 steel in general, also just as good as cold steel's sk-5 more or less, sk5 may be tougher. 01 is equal i think. what you guys think.
cheapmovies25 2 months ago
what's the borax for? And where can i get some?
TedOfNod 3 months ago
This is pretty big news if you make damascus steel. The skill have been lost for several hundred years, and even the scientists can't reproduce the craft!
BelRiose2000 4 months ago
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fieryperil 3 months ago
@BelRiose2000 you are an idiot
datzfast 1 month ago
@BelRiose2000 "True" Damascus steel was "wootz" (bulat) crystaline crucible steel in the Tartaric and Persian tradition and not folded steel as often suposed. Neither technology was ever lost or discontinued, just abandoned by industry in Europeanized countries. Medieval European swords were all forge-welded layered steel, and most European swords were such through at least the early 1700s.
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@TOMHYLE88 It is just weird that people call this layered steel Damascus steel when they are two completely different kinds of forging. There haven't been a Damascus steel sword since 1700, and the scientists don't know how to re-make them.
BelRiose2000 1 month ago
@BelRiose2000 There are some people making bulat and bulat blades in either Russia or otherwise Slavia/Eastern Europe, who claim an unbroken tradition, and at least two in the USA who say they've recreated the processes. Purist sword collectors say their work is notably different than that of the past. I don't know of an aspect of blades such persons do not say that about though. Antique bulat blades show a variety of forging and heat treats. Improper hardening or welding will destroy the grain.
TOMHYLE88 1 month ago
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@BelRiose2000 They do not know how to recreate the exact pattern true, however many similar patterns have been made. pattern welding is the correct technical term, however since the crusaders first called it Dasmascus steel, it has stuck for any similar product to this day. The name sounds cooler. :)
RedSun875 1 week ago
@GuthixSet this process developed around the world, and in damascus the crusaders came across pattern welded steel. which is known as damascus steel. in the process you take different types of steel and heat them up until they reach a welding temperature where the surface of the metal actually becomes molten enough that when you hit it the different peices are fused together. this is repeated until the layer count is where you want it. then it is etched to show the pattern made in this process.
brightenhosie 4 months ago
Very well done. One suggestion for you though. Don't use gloves. I used gloves and got some hot scale caught in it. Very nasty burn.
BKerryFTW 4 months ago
sick as
RyanHawkz 4 months ago
why dont people get the hammer swingin thing?
blacksmither1 5 months ago
Unfortunatly this is not real damascus steel, the real formula for damascus steel was lost ages ago
clehmanj 6 months ago
how good is Damascus Steel for Swords and Weapons? i read that Damascus is the Strongest/Sharpest for blades (i have Fantasy Blade ideas) and also is it possible to make a Gun shape in this Steel (i'm hoping this is possible for a design i have planned for this Movie i wish to make"
innerguardianXIII 6 months ago
@innerguardianXIII Damascus is used to refer to 2 different types of steel. The pattern welded steel shown here. And the crucible steel that was used ages ago to make weapons. What I have seen suggests that the original damascus steel isn't that amazing, and that it was merely better than the other steels of the period, which really sucked. Patten welded steel like shown in this video can make great weapons as long as you use the right steels and the heat treat is right.
hannibalninja 5 months ago
@hannibalninja aaaaaaaaaahhhh right, so no good then? shame, i was hoping to use that steel for Alucards "Jackel" Gun from the Manga/Anime Hellsing.
innerguardianXIII 5 months ago
@innerguardianXIII I think they make some guns with pattern welded steel, but I'm not sure. You'd have to find a real gunsmith or metallurgist to find out if it will work well.
hannibalninja 5 months ago
@hannibalninja rightio, Cheers for the Info :D
innerguardianXIII 5 months ago
As the man who literally wrote the book(s) on pattern welding (Look up HRISOULAS) I would say you are off to a good start. For the ignorant...I have set welds using a stick to close the layers together. It is all a matter of clean surfaces and the right temps. Nice air hammer you got here...
Dr JP Hrisoulas
atarBaktar 6 months ago
What would you consider to be high carbon?
ConorC96 6 months ago
that's not how u make damascus steel, they've even found carbon nanotubes in the old swords that are damascus forged
eplanti 7 months ago
Everyone is a fucking idiot but okay. Good job mate.
NeonShep 8 months ago
this is bullshit damascus doesnt even exist
St6y7 9 months ago
thats not damascus, dumbass
proskillz89 9 months ago
correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure thats NOT damascus steel...
TheChriswag018 9 months ago
lol really????
TheKillerguy77 9 months ago
Hey nice vid and interesting! Wats that song in the background? I know its spin me right roumd but its dofferent. Who is this version by?
TheKillerguy77 9 months ago
@TheKillerguy77 monkeys. on. mars.
Hillegassc 9 months ago
And where's the second part?
S0r7y 10 months ago
what types of steel do you forge together to get damascus steel?
jasonchuu 11 months ago
wheres part two dude?
blacksmither1 11 months ago
i actually like the song...
jillybooty 1 year ago
weird... borax is also the name of my pet dragon.
ruufeeooh 1 year ago
Is that borax the stuff used for the laundry?
fatboy1595 1 year ago
Nice Anvil
oray23 1 year ago
Thanks for the video ... wondering what nickel and steel you use. Can you name your supplier, been looking for one locally.
dordtrecht 1 year ago
y havent u uploaded a second half for this yet?
blacksmither1 1 year ago
why do u put borax ?
shittyfuck 1 year ago
@shittyfuck it is used as flux to help them weld together
MrApathetical 1 year ago
@shittyfuck Borax raises the temperature of the metal to a point where it can be welded together. The technique has a few names, commonly it is called forge welding. Actually the name of the technique he is using is called forded crucible steel. Due to the various impurities int he steel he is using they cool at different heats and thus making that look.
Pard68 1 year ago
You are wrong about holding the hammer at the end... Uri Hofe pointed out that control is more important than power..
Mikesmistake 1 year ago
he's holding the hammer wrong, a hammer should always be held at the end of the handle, not near the head. that way you get better control and more leverage.
chefdingo 1 year ago
I though no one knew how to make damascus steel? Is this just steel with the same aesthetics, or a replication of the ancient technique?
EmperorOfMars 1 year ago
@EmperorOfMars Its pattern welded, also a historical method used by almost everyone at one point for making swords. Historically it was done to homogonize the steel due to the lack of consistancy in iron, (some was high carbon some was low carbon) This would have been done to get a more even steel for a better sword. Now that we have consistant steels its done for aesthetic purposes
spleegulence 1 year ago
@spleegulence thanks bro
EmperorOfMars 1 year ago
only 1 comment why does a hammer haves a long wooden stick where you can hold it? because you have to hold it on the end of the stick not near the head of the hammer !
swaffellen 1 year ago
@swaffellen one word; accuracy!
Yoona1991 1 year ago 15
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@Yoona1991 haha idiot look at al blacksmiths and farriers around the world why does it have a long stick then for nothing i think you need a little lesson or 2
swaffellen 1 year ago
@swaffellen actually, the way you hold your hammer is a personal preference that has to do with ergonomics and what is most comfortable for the user. that, and accuracy.
delta2131 1 year ago
@delta2131 i understand what you are saying butt wenn you are holding the hammer at the end of the stick you have the most power and you can hammer al day whitout getting tyred wenn you do it like this your arm is sore after a few days
swaffellen 1 year ago
@swaffellen also, the further out you hold the heavier the hammer head feels when you lift...fulcrum/lever effect and such
delta2131 1 year ago
@delta2131 yes so the impact of hitting is getting higer so you need less hitts to get the same effect now u understand what i was saying
swaffellen 1 year ago
@swaffellen You seem to know nothing on forging, if I want more power on hammerin then I would use at the end of the stick. In this case it was all about accuracy.
Yoona1991 1 year ago 15
@Yoona1991 he bro video is great :D I've done something by myself but I prefer daggers how to make sheats for that? I just can't get it right! >.<
Stalkerbre 1 year ago
@Yoona1991
more like "they know nothing of physics"
epyon158 2 months ago
@Yoona1991 anyone with a half a brain knows you choke up on the hammer to increase accuracy and decrease strength -_- ignore the kiddies
rich1051414 1 month ago
@swaffellen do not speak if your ignorance is your only basis. you have most likely never even touched much less swung a forge hammer. i will not explain beyond a doubt that yoona1991 is right. swinging a hammer from the end of the handle generates a larger arc, and more power, but when you need to be accurate, choking up is a must. a smaller arc means more control, and less chance to hit the metal with the edge of the hammer. choked up hits are called planishing hits, to smooth and slowly shape
0asis99 1 year ago
@swaffellen Retard is retarded, you use the end of the handle for power in such things as forge welding or drawing, and you hold it toward the top for accuracy and precision (such as forging bevels into blades and such).. have a seat
Breathor 6 months ago
@Breathor you are al stupid fucks you always hold a hammer at the end of the stick why do you think there is such a long handle on a hammer? if you want a more accurate swing get a smaller (lighter) hammer wenn want more power get a bigger(heavyer) hammer wenn you hold the handle to short to the top your hand is gonna hurt after a while and it getting hot wenn you are busy for a while
swaffellen 6 months ago
@swaffellen You are obviously not a smith, also... why would i want to listen to some jackass basement virgin tell me how to do something when he cant even spell "all" correctly. have a seat
Breathor 5 months ago
@Yoona1991 if u need to hold it up there for accuracy than u fucking suck at using a hammer
cipher913 1 year ago
@Yoona1991 Thank you for the video.
UnspokenHonor 1 year ago
@Yoona1991 please ignore this asshole i mean to make a damascus dagger or sword one day this guy can fuck off,if youve built a forge or tried anything in the forging world you know more than Mr.swaffellen please teach us more
MrJsowa 1 month ago
@swaffellen Trust me, you use your hammer at various places on the handle. It's a lot less about accuracy, however, and a lot more about power. The farther from the head you place your hands, the more leverage you get, meaning more power. He is just rounding the edges, he is not trying to obliterate it. The power hammer is when the real power needs to come into place and if he used a hammer he would have used it at the end of the handle.
Pard68 1 year ago
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@swaffellen Trust me, you use your hammer at various places on the handle. It's a lot less about accuracy, however, and a lot more about power. The farther from the head you place your hands, the more leverage you get, meaning more power. He is just rounding the edges, he is not trying to obliterate it. The power hammer is when the real power needs to come into place and if he used a hammer he would have used it at the end of the handle.
Pard68 1 year ago
Nice setup. Never done it that way before, always just did some stamping, although I hate the term "damascus steel" because all the fantasy geeks think it can cut through anything.
Pard68 1 year ago
@swaffellen you dumb fuck! 1st off this is not blacksmithing this is bladesmithing it's a huge difference you should know that 1st! 2nd if steel is hot you can't, mustn't hit it hard it will fall apart I don't think you've ever forged anything!
Stalkerbre 1 year ago
@swaffellen When hammering metal the recoil when having your hand further away causes it to bounce back causing unwanted warping in the metal and damage to your hand.
Sadisticsofa 5 months ago
music sucks
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
damn ill buy some damascus steel off u XD i wanna make a wicked katana
lussifer99 1 year ago
any chance you can make me a nice skinning knife ?
Greenf00t 1 year ago
What do you do if you get the steel too hot? Is the piece ruined at that point?
RazorRivetRiot 1 year ago
I know what you did is the same as folding kind of, but what is the difference between folding and fusingÉ
FiresOfMerlin 1 year ago
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music ruined this video.
qweer999999999 1 year ago
would that anvil melt if u poured jet fuel on it and lit it up, i dare anyone to make a vid of it. i wanna see science at work.
Psy0pAgent 1 year ago
why have so many did turn me right roud right roud or spinn me
Asken96 1 year ago
can i use nickel silver alloy or will it metl to soon? great vid.
jackdog20 1 year ago
thank you very much for posting this i've been looking for a good video on damascus and this one has exactly the process i've been looking for =)
iamozzy1 1 year ago
I keep burning my steel am I not adding enough flux or is it past welding temp?
jackdog20 1 year ago
@jackdog20 if you're using a higher carbon steel ( tool grade; commonly referred to)
the welding heat should be lower, also, be careful to be proficient with your ability to hammer weld, as if it delaminates later on during the process and correct it, it may still come out as a reasonable piece, but its better to be safer about your abilities and have a good quality piece. i recommend practicing welds!
dogfootrot189 1 year ago
can you gife a detailed describtion of your furnace? fuel material and the way you get air in there
maarhoefe 1 year ago
I stick my billets end first into the flux and when it bubbles out at the top I put it on the outside surface.
It's a trick I was taught by Mick Langley, Canada's first ABS master-smith.
Don't pound the stack together for this, you don't need to.
You'll see the hot flux bubbling out the top, you're done and ready for the weld heat.
Cool shop, I like the air hammers.
I haven't had a bad bar of Damascus steel since the late 80s.
Conan568 1 year ago
that is fucking serious stuff if you can make damascuss real knife good handmake kicked ass but hard :D
l33thustla 1 year ago
cool
belyub 1 year ago
How was the forge made? I need a decent one to make.
MonoxideChild1219 1 year ago
Good job Yoona
bigDbigDbigD 2 years ago
i love how most of the hammering is in time with the music its awesome
Saidium 2 years ago
lol i was listening to the song when i watched this vid. It was like ohh lolzz
tringthienvan 2 years ago
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epsoff 2 years ago
Why is it that people are so childish like you, expecially on youtube. Oh I get it, its easy to say those things when you are in your home.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
The Borax you use, is it mixed with Ammonium Chloride?
morganselstoe 2 years ago
I dont know, my teacher told me to use it.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
teacher? do you go to a school to learn blacksmithing or do you just take lessons?
Undeadmudge 2 years ago
Im in a metal art- school and I made it at the damascus lesson we had. Nowadays Im more into welding.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
@morganselstoe the borax is a flux,,, 12 mule team will work but you can get anhydrous borax on ebay
tonymengela 1 year ago
@tonymengela all right :)
morganselstoe 1 year ago
dude what song is that its actually damn good
schroom777 2 years ago
yup, im afraid the music made it unwatchable... sry dude!
epsoff 2 years ago 14
You can always watch it without sound
Yoona1991 2 years ago
get fucked buddy its called MUTE
ninja6kid 2 years ago
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epsoff 2 years ago
i did several times and i still cant get rid of the taste of your moms stank pussy
ninja6kid 2 years ago
@epsoff There's a mute option, you know. You won't miss a lot since everything is written on the screen and there's no talk anyway.
ZappaUndersn 1 year ago
@epsoff thers a mute button
blacksmither1 11 months ago
@epsoff then mute it xD
5Metalgod5 10 months ago
@epsoff its called mute.
blacksmither1 5 months ago
why people add idiotic music to good videos ALL THE TIME!
leckig 2 years ago 27
I think so too. Thats why I dont do that. :)
Yoona1991 2 years ago
@leckig due to copyright infringments
Eight8411 1 year ago
pity about the awful music
126lma 2 years ago 2
what did you use to heat the oven
DavisCampbell 2 years ago
Charcoal of course :)
Yoona1991 2 years ago
Charcoal. what type?
DavisCampbell 2 years ago
Burned wood
Yoona1991 2 years ago
i posted a stupid question on your page asking what damascus steel was. Sorry i just found out what it was. sounds cool.
DavisCampbell 2 years ago
No worries! I do that also sometimes :D
Yoona1991 2 years ago
whats the borox for?
hawkdlb06 2 years ago
For a flux.
thetanukikaji 2 years ago
whats the borax for?
whowantsabighug 2 years ago
It protects the metal from dirt and oxigen, if I remember right.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
wat is damascus steel? is it like carbon steel ? is it rust resistant?
plz reply
thanks
Airsoft9eleven 2 years ago
Its pattern welded steel. Try google it and you'll see!
Yoona1991 2 years ago
@Yoona1991
ok thanks
Airsoft9eleven 2 years ago
i see the powder what is that?
nestorweld 2 years ago
borax
jackdog20 2 years ago
Nice job.
thetanukikaji 2 years ago
but then even with my favourtistm of japanese tamahagane as a steel/iron, its the chinese who have been using water driven power hammers, essentially pattern welded steel to make the blades carbon content uniform and for different properties for 6000+ years! its amazing what they did, but war ravaged thier countries and many items and forges were lost in fires, but some remain still!
aobbuddy 2 years ago
I can watch this video again, again and again. Great! Those hammer strokes are awesome with great music. When you are doing damascus it doesn't looks like it is difficult =)
albi131 2 years ago
Thanks! It's not so difficult to make it this way when you have done it few times
Yoona1991 2 years ago
thats really interesting, but then i guess the forging procces developed by the smiths in damascus must have been different, or it would have been called wootz, found in damascus or not. but that is interesting, it is simula to that of tamahagane, but not as pure a form coming from an ore instead of a sand. but the whole different irons and steels withing the woots bloom and tamahagane bloom must be simular in the variations of that!
aobbuddy 2 years ago
you shoudn't wear a glove on your hammer hand! reduces grip and accuracy, and its def pattern welded steel, if its not from damascus, its not damascus, just like champagne! but it looks gd
aobbuddy 2 years ago
Yes, but I use glowes because its more comfortable and because of the heat
Yoona1991 2 years ago
technically damasucus was a particular stell mined and smelted in India where they called it Wootz steel. it was called damasucus steel because the crusaders either found it in italy or because the smith they found using that was his name either way it came from india to begin with. but sadly those mines went dry and there is no true "damasucus steel" pattern welded steel looks like damasucus but it isn't.
aerodynamicband 2 years ago
no..that would be called wootz steel, once again damascus steel is from damascus. not italy, not named after a smith atall. there are many types of patter welded steel around the world, each with thier own names for it, and sometimes a slightly different process. damascus is from damascus. it has nothing to do with india am afraid. damascus is steel folded over and over, folded to spread carbon content to have a uniform blade,
aobbuddy 2 years ago
a bi-product of this was patternation due to differnt parts of the bloom having differnt carbon content, therefor a slightly different colour/shade when tempered correctly and polished/ground. many countries have something simular, but its not the same.
aobbuddy 2 years ago
i didn't mean to type italy idon't know what is was thinking i meant to type. because the crusaders found it in damasucus. they called it damasucus steel because they first encountered it there. but the steel used in those blade was smined in india and smelted there and also in Sri Lanka then sold and used by smiths but the crusaders found swords sith the steel first in damasucus but it is really indian steel that the indians called wootz steel
aerodynamicband 2 years ago
Wootz is not pattern welded. The "watering" comes from needle like structures. Pattern welded stuff and wootz are two very different things.
thetanukikaji 2 years ago
All true except that wootz in now gone. Several blademakers on Donn Fogg's site make their own wootz.
thetanukikaji 2 years ago
how are they doing that are they smelting it and adding the same elements in it that are in wootz steel? if they are thats awesome. are there videos of that if there are please tell me what the names are
aerodynamicband 2 years ago
That's how wootz is made. It's iron ore smelted in a crucible with a certain recipe. If you look here on youtube for smelting wootz and look for NiHyNeN. His name is Nico, and the wootz he posts on Don Fogg's site is amazing.
thetanukikaji 2 years ago
could you just take one block and fold it over itself or dosen't that work?
12swordmaster 2 years ago
Its easyer this way to me
Yoona1991 2 years ago
couldnt you just make the first package the almost cut that in half and fold it? like thos samurai sword guys do it.
breekbaard 2 years ago
Because its easyer this way to me.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
tässä nyt tuli vielä vaan mieleen että kun katsoin muita yputube videoita damascus teräs puukkojen valmistuksesta nii he tekivat siihen uria jotta se kuvio olisin erilainen. minkälainen kuvio siihen tulee jos ei tee mitään uria?
poppamies907 2 years ago
Erilaisia tapoja tehdä kuvioita on monia. Vaihtoehtoina on varmaan miljoonia erilasia kuvioita. Itse taoin lopuksi pakan pitemmäksi "pötköksi ja kiersin 360astetta ja lopuksi taoin taas lataksi näin saa ihan simppelin kuvion helposti. Toiseen pakkaan josta kaverini kanssa tein näyttö työn koululla kaiversin rälläkällä uria ristiin ja taoin lataksi josta muotoilin puukon.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
Kokeileppa vaikka googlettaa damascus steel tai mosaic damascus. Näet vähän mitä kaikkea damastista voi tehdä.
Itse en tiedä kovinkaan paljoa asiata, vain perusteet mitä täällä koulullani olen oppinut (IKATA- erikoismetalli)
Yoona1991 2 years ago
juu-u. meinasin tänään ruveta takomaan ensimmäistä damascus teräs puukkoani. ja minua ei haittaa ollenkaan et muoto pitaa hioa. teen kaikki puukkoni sillä tekniikalla
poppamies907 2 years ago
No niin teen minäkin.Siitä vaan kokeileen damstia! :)
Yoona1991 2 years ago
olen itse takonut 3 puukkoa ja alko toi damascus teräs kiinnostaan. onkos sen takomisessa eroja?
poppamies907 2 years ago
Onhan se haastavempaa hommaa ku kaiken pitää mennä kerralla nappiin tai uusiks menee. Mutta kun tuon oppii niin kyllä se siitä lähtee. Se huono puoli tässä on kun on pakan tehnyt niin sitä ei enää kannata takoa muotoon (esim, puukko) vaan pitää hiomalla muoto hakea, ettei kuvio mene sotkuiseksi.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
whats the name of that song?
VirtRampage 2 years ago
hey where did you get tight gloves like that? i need some show-off blacksmith gear...all i have is a cool apron
Undeadmudge 2 years ago
Self modified ESAB welding glowes. I just draw those tribals on them. :D
Yoona1991 2 years ago
forgive my lack of knowlede but what purpose does the lousy garage noise "band" crud ear polution serve ?
re make the video and leave off the stupid noise
rentatrip1 2 years ago
You can press the mute- button and then watch it again. But thank you anyway!
Yoona1991 2 years ago
One purpose was that I didn't know about Dope or that great version of "you spin me round". I learnt more than just how to make Damascus steel.
Thanks
ardeet 2 years ago
Youre welcome!
Yoona1991 2 years ago
Forgive my complete lack of knowledge on the topic, what purpose does the borax serve?
I've seen it performed on other forging videos as well, so i'm sure it is in the process for a reason.
screwball3z 2 years ago
I think it keeps the pack out of dirt and stuff. I just do what I'we been taught.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
were do you get your metal to forge what type of metals are they?
DemonsPride 2 years ago
true damascus has tungsten in iron ore(or wolfram as you like it)
so this is just forge welding different type of steels
anyway, great job, and great vid, you should have put twisting in it
MrPez5 2 years ago
Nice Stuff man! , I forge, like POORMANS FORGING kind of forging, you see, im kinda like 15.. so i cant afford everything like a forge.. but sledge hammers n stuff gets me some knives going. i've made many already.. And i wanted to say that, where i live theres an aluminium company. (alcan, Owned by Alcoa, in canada,Quebec..).. well theres a train and its full of COKE* (not the drug), And thats oil residues, and its better than coal it dosnt burn up it can burn on its own for over an hour,try it
masicklazik 2 years ago
i live in quebec too.montreal
akiliase 2 years ago
A lot of blacksmith tools and hardware can be easily improvised. Don't spend a ton of money when you can find something cheap in the scrapyard that will easily substitute it.
Cstrife234 2 years ago
umm how much did that big old power hammer cost? i might get one
zune345 2 years ago
Dont know, its not mine.
Yoona1991 2 years ago
I wish I had an anvil and forge. I made a crude small machetti with one serrated side though, using a piece of train track rail and pieces of chromed iron, lol.
It's a piece of shit though, because it's only pounded cold, so I had to make it super thick and unbalanced.
KevinLounsberry 2 years ago
it's a vegetable carbon or coke?
KrostFrost 2 years ago
old style... 3 ppl and 3 huge sladge hammers ;D
mitraljez 2 years ago
why you call it damascus steel
thearabsword1 2 years ago
really nice vid about making Damascus steel ;) me and my friend want to make some damast too but i think it will be extremly hard cause we havn't got a power hammer ......
xXDarkXx92 2 years ago
Thank you. You dont need a powerhammer if you got bigger original hammer (like 20-30lbs) the other guy holds the pack on the anvil and other hits it with the bigger hammer. And chance places when the hammerguy gets tired.
Yoona1991 2 years ago