EVE Online - Navy Raven Issue - The Best Mission Boat

[po0po0nanA]

And it looks sooo good after crucible came out ;)

[eduardvictor]

A Machariel shits all over any overtanked piece of shit Golem or Tengu or Drake or CNR or Raven.

Contrary to popular belief, having holy shit awesome DPS in missions is better than having a tank.

When you are in a ship that goes 600m\s and can do 1.1k DPS from 6 km to 80 km, tanking doesn't really matter.

I LOL at anyone that says that any other ship is better at missions than a Machariel.

Possibly the Vargur, but it's still overtanked in comparison, and does less DPS...

[ArmAMajor]

How do you push away the hud and sides?

[LReminds]

@ArmAMajor With CTR f9

[LethalLithiumLi]

Is the raven the best or the marauder that uses the same ship type? i dont remember the exact name...

[slagfury]

awsome video. i like using my nighthawk fo missions though. although using t2 ammo is a bit overkill but what the heck the faster i beat the mission the more iskies i make.

[slagfury]

i fly me shiny nighthawk its a beast in lvl 4 missions. a we bit overkill if i use t2 ammo but meh i got plenty isk. iv'e always wanted to own a navy raven but yet can't seem to properly fit a regular raven.

[KimInChains]

Why would you ridicule the CNR with that shitty music?

[TheNorbertchen]

NICE VID MAN !

[bigkierran]

GROUPING FAIL!

[IronMan44444]

what was the ship at 2:16?

[caveman999666]

haha the navy scorp is so much better

[elmoekardt]

lol best mission boat is the golem and has been for a very long time, long before this video was posted.

[jnj0128]

@elmoekardt Depends on the situation I suppose, but CNR will out mission a Golem 9 times out of ten, can fly both have flown both, and CNR almost always clears faster.... Golem is good if you don't have a salvage alt, and use utility slots for such, beyond that, CNR hands down...

[JonnyPew]

I will probably never train for the Raven BS because I'm Minmatar based. But there is still a possibility i will one day get to give the CNR a shot since some Minmatar ships make use of Missiles and I'll have trained those skills.

Good video LReminds.

[Rocklobster888888]

@JonnyPew

A CNR is a Caldari Navy Raven class Battleship.

Essentially an improved Raven.

If you wanna fly a CNR, you gotta be capable of at least piloting a Raven.

[JonnyPew]

@Rocklobster888888 I'm aware, but thanks for the reply.

[Rocklobster888888]

Nothing says the Golem is better like it's 9k volley every 6.7 seconds.

[Kevlord22]

now thats a quality video :) Thanks for the upload

[jmoseph767]

omg, a bhalgorn

[tsnr2]

shit music and a mission running video leave empire and get owned please carebear.

[MrJarhead1994]

@tsnr2 go away you smelly troll

[Mattisbehindyou]

@nittss

no, the tengu is the absolute best missioner. i wont go over the countless reasons why with you, i have other youtube videos to waste my time with, but its true.

[Unf0rget]

@Mattisbehindyou

In some missions yes, but a golem will be better overall as most missions have the ships within 80-60km. Which means they cant be pulled with a tp or hit with javelins which will do more dps than a tengu while having drones. Tengu can only hope to compair dps when using kin missiles. Tengu is for c3 soloing

[nittss]

show me a golem or rattlesnake fit with 1.3kdps.

[Unf0rget]

4 t2 torps level 5 skills t2 ammo 4 cnavy bcus 5 mediums

[nittss]

fail. T2 torps dont hit anything below capial ships for more than half damage. try again.

[Unf0rget]

@nittss

One month later, Target painter bonuses. Read forums. Learn a ship before you use the base raven bonuses. Watch greengimp on youtube, 3-4 hit bses with torps.

[nittss]

@Unf0rget

I two hit battleships with torps...

[CygnusSC]

Problems with this video:

1) group your guns

2) get rid of the AB. You shouldn't need it.  Maybe for specific missions, I guess.

3) Drop the cap recharger in your mids for a Shield Boost Amp. If you're not flying with an AB, you should have 2 SBA II's in those slots, or an SBA and a TP, if you want flavor.

4 Don't do Rogue Drone missions. Lack of bounty = failing amounts of ISK.

[LReminds]

@CygnusSC

1) video made in 2008

2) & 3) Perma Tank

4) Mineral and fast Lps

That should answer your obs.

[CalicoatMaker]

@LReminds Cygnus doesnt know that grouping your weapons will overkill the target on the killshot, wasting every weapon's damage beyond the last damage amount.

People that group their weapons will always do less damage from their waste than the damage I lose in reaction time, and the longer the fight, the more enemies there are, the more advantage I have on enemies than anyone else will

[liberty211662]

@LReminds what about golem?

[enCODed3]

@CygnusSC grouping guns (actual guns) makes you waste ammo when the target has low health but with missiles it leaves you open to more defenders if you dont lastly this is before grouping was an option

[enCODed3]

also if you salvage you get more from drone missions than others your just lazy

[icl4ntic]

@CygnusSC no reason to group slow-refire weaponry when you're npcing.

[Whitelord707]

what is the name of the 1st song?

[DENBO36]

@Whitelord707  the 1st song is Drowning Pool - Tear Away .. fly save Pilot ^^ ( DEC LEMBACK in EVE -Online )

[xXBiGAllYXx]

@Whitelord707 Tear Away - Drowning Pool :D

[VarykGerai]

marauders ftw

[nittss]

agreed

[Wargargble]

lol @ mutated domi ;]

[RPNova]

Torp Golem is better.

I prefer Ishtar though, getting ISK for reading books and wanking ftw.

[johpafoora]

ishtar best missioning ship...ogre 2s dont take ammo and if you use it in a mission/plex/0.0 you dont have to stop to reload.

[CygnusSC]

Or a Domi...

Way cheaper and less skill intensive.

[muhammed9145]

fuck sake i wana know what your missile damage is but u have to remove the hud dont you! :-(

[Mattisbehindyou]

a nighthawk beats the navy raven issue, golem beats nighthawk, and the tengu beats them all in isk/hour.

[goulby]

Golem = The best mission boat

[eveships]

A Golem can do that mission in 5 min's GOLEM's ftw

[Zombiepwnage117]

when you sign up for the militia, do you get these ships when you enlist?

[Cyllellau]

No - if you did every one would have one :P

You get them through LP(loyalty points) store which you will have to run mission for or through contracts but they cost a fair amount.

[eveships]

There Cheap >.>

[arxontas1989]

how do you remove the menu bars from the video?

[twitch1231]

if you referring to the neocom and all, its ctrl+F9 and it will hide them. Then just hit the both of them again to turn em back on

[eveships]

ALT -TAB the window's in EVE :)

[PuIIHarder]

really want that drone dominix...thing.

[verjan2005]

u mean them scary tentacles ?>?

nice video

[PuIIHarder]

yup

[bluetoaster8822]

CNR rocks.

[p111067]

i still have a normal raven, a CNR is my next step.

Very good video ;)

[staffsargemobuto]

i miss eve....and i miss taking unnecessarily large mission fleets to speed mission

[Bluerapp]

thx LReminds, i found it

[Bluerapp]

What is the song? thank you for answering

[LReminds]

check comments and ull find it ;p

[doombow666]

what weps and such u use?

[Unf0rget]

He's using cruise missles, probably tech2 launchers/ammo.

[deza111]

Nice video

I use an AB too :). But do you really find 5 BCUs worth it? 10% of it's base value etc. I use DCU instead.

[LReminds]

by then i used to have a 425mm railgun in the 8th slot and swapped the 5th BCU for a MAG STAB for max damage...

no need for DCU if u have perma tank,

center the lows on damage...

anyways now my mission boat is golem,

bit more effective for a lower cost, if u have the skills :)

[Unf0rget]

@deza111

Old comment but w/e.

If you have enough tank from your mid slots the dcu is useless, no matter how little damage you gain from a 5th bcu its worth more then the dcu for missions as it will finish just that much faster.

[xxAkatsukixSasorixx]

tear away - drowning pool

[bluetoaster8822]

"Tear Away" by Drowning Pool.

[scream2749]

amazing dude thats my nex ship lol

[Rynx214]

such a good ship, because of the way torps are balanced.

Siege launchers are the stongest sub-capital guns, but the normal Raven can only fit 6 launchers instead of 8 so it balances with the other races.  The CNR can fit a full rack, making it an insane damage boat that can still tank as well.

[LReminds]

Id use 6 x cruise launcher + 2 x 425mm railgun on the raven for max damage

[keeennnyyy21]

lol that ship looks so unbalanced

[LReminds]

not at all its maxed out`plus u can replace the nos for a railgun 425 then its ready to rock in its max performance

[leemac4]

aerodynamics count for nothing in space.

[BadYahtzee]

With the correct support skill(and faction fit) and the right support ship in gang, 1.1k DPS with a 1337 dps onmi tank(yes, it is 1337) it is a nice small gang pvp ship to play around with.

[smitehz]

I wants one so bad :O

[roshawn1111]

if u have good cap skills and missile skills, they r very good at pvp.

[bovb902]

i got that ship and its a good 1 i battle every player ship or police

[roshawn1111]

wat?

[roshawn1111]

caldari are actual good at all depending on ur skills

[Gugukax]

Cool song... can you tell me how its called? :)

[LReminds]

Tear Away

artista: Drowning Pool

álbum: Sinner

[Nariekxyz]

Ravens are awesome as tanks, you can take down most other battleships if you have it kitted out right!!!

[linqserver]

Its a ship not a boat ;)

[kennni007]

Music name? Good game

[Conn3r1337]

Idk, I seem to like the fleet tempest, CNR is badass also, used to have one :)

[Huhu1400]

What the title of music ?

and.... Caldari powa ! =d

[Mavrik347]

Make a vid showing the damage done :P (don't hide the UI).

That's the only way to show if the CNR is good or not. :)

[JurassicParker]

Marauders are better mission boats then faction ships could ever be (except the Nightmare, which is basically a marauder).

4 weapon slots (dealing damage like 8 weapons) and utility high slots make mission running even more faster than in faction-Battleships. :D

[Mavrik347]

Except the Golem, 1 defender takes away 25% of its damage. Hence people use the CNR.

[nerevarine0303]

Ooooohhh! Gotta get me one of these!

[TD47]

please make this ship symmetrical. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

[LReminds]

symmetrical=??

what do you mean=? lol

[CrusoeCale]

yeah, its a bit ugly :P

[JimmiMcCarthy]

Almost all caldari ships are a asymmetrical? :P

[silviu2007]

almost all ships in eve are asymetrical

[JimmiMcCarthy]

Amarr is the only exception i think?

[silviu2007]

omen is an exception... and a few t2 frigates

[mrmrlee]

Yes, except for the Drake, it is a symmetrical Caldari ship.

[lolman5921]

And the Caracal

[RalenSanis]

The Rokh and Merlin are symetrical too

[Majin82]

5 BCU's... Never put more then 3 BCU... you get a very bad diminishing return that doesnt justify the use of the space.

[LReminds]

this is suppose to be a max damage mission boat fitting, later on updated with a 425 mm railgun in the 8th high slot and a mag field stab in the 5th low slot...

[masterofS200]

not a bad fit BUT....personaly i dont think its the best but i may be wrong.... i have the same ship full faction fitted btw what faction harnders are u using CN invuls?

[LReminds]

1 invul and 2 mission type resist

[eduardvictor]

You meant Raven Navy issue, right?

Not Navy Raven Issue LOL

[Mattisbehindyou]

lol so right

[nfsjunky13]

god damn you I was gall all the way its just coincidence I can fly a cnr (shifty eyes)

as far as mauraders go the cnr actually puts out more dps but has slighty smaller tank and cant loot and salvage

[Mercenarystar]

btw Got a good navy issue fit? i know you fly a golem but i am saving to buy a faction fitted navy issue so it's uber , not sure of fit tho

[LReminds]

best missions fitting for cnr:

7xCN cruise launcher 1xGN 425 mm railgun

GistC-TypeX-LSB,Ab,Caprecha,3x­heardners(faction)

4xCNBcu 1xMagnetic stab

1xcccT2 2xCCCt1

Max demage and enough to tank all lvl4s

[Mercenarystar]

Thanks again

[Mercenarystar]

How much would you make a day in a navy issue on good quality level 4's?

[LReminds]

You can make from 30 to 250 mill a day, all depends on the ammount of missions you run and loot/salvage...but if you can get a golem

[Mercenarystar]

Thanks. Well i got a second account for salvaging i'm talking about a couple of hrs a day.

[LReminds]

well, 2 houres is just enought time to get 1 G.E./ A.E./ Assault/W.C./Blocade done and salvaged, so if you select your missions in order to run only the highest ones, you should be looking at 50 mil x 2houres worth in missions...

[Mercenarystar]

Thanks mate.

[RockyTM]

Ahhh, ok, thx for the answer ;) Have fun

[RockyTM]

Bad missiles :( Get torpedos and you'll own them in half of the time :)

[LReminds]

torps bad for range,becides do shit damage on smaller targets,crusie far more versitile for missions/ship fittings ;p

[h8r08]

i prefer the scorp cheap easy to fly but u take like 2% dmg in it if kited out like mine.... caps a prob but cap rigs (t2 ofc) an passive cap boster bottem slot with dmg control t2 and it owns try it out ur choice of what type of shields or weps enjoy :)

[LReminds]

from scorp the only decent aspect is tank couse it sux for dps, and if u wanna finish the missions fast dps is key word

[blackUP2424]

save yourself some isk - losing a CNR is a bitch, but losing a t2 rigged CNR will make you slap yourself. This was never a discussion about dps. It was me saying that torps can reach 45 km's.

[moxinghbian]

dual accounts, one marauder in front tanks and dps and tractor, one dominix at the back salvage/loot and put drones on guard of the marauder.

put a remote repiar on domi too, handy for repairing drones or use up some idle caps.

[LReminds]

hmm i preffer the comb marauder - hurricane

1250ish m3 marauder - 2500ish on hurricane with agility and mass reduction rigs ;p

[moxinghbian]

the point is that Dominix gives you free damage: the drones, I mean when it comes to missions, speed and doing it as lazy as possible are everything.

[hiddenmonkeyofdoom]

cnrs are good, but I prefer turret boats over missile boats. Main reason is defenders and with turrets I have instant dmg. I can see the benefit of missiles in hitting smaller targets, but once my gunnery skills got up high enough, I usually can pop and cruisers before they get to me, if not, drones make very short work of them, but I agree, CNR is one very decent mission runner. Also on the golem, CNR is better. Golem has stronger tank, but similar dmg to T1 raven..so yea, better to get cnr

[Crunchbite37]

golem > cnr

most/all skilled golem pilots will use torpedoes that'll pretty much instapop anything below BS.

[hiddenmonkeyofdoom]

except that in a mission, solo, torps are useless. From all the golems I have seen as missioners, all use cruise missiles, and the dps is the same as a t1 raven. The dps on a cnr is much greater. Golem is mean to tank and salvage more than beat the dps of a CNR.

[SerbiaNX]

you can get the torps to have max range of 10 000 km that i know of so...not very efficiant in that point of view...plus raven can target from more then 70km and that is more then 40% bigger distance then any turret i know.i got my navy raven tanked to all dmg above 80% with the shields on 13k (passive and active tank mix) plus cap never goes out!

[blackUP2424]

max range on torps is over 45km.

[SerbiaNX]

depends of a skills your char has...

[LReminds]

nahh, i use t2 cruise missile launchers ;p

decent rof and decent damage with 4 bcus,

helps your fitting a lot aswell

plus have range of 110 km

[blackUP2424]

I think you fail to understand what I said...

4 BCUS is unnecessary, you're basically sacrificing some cap recharge for a tiny amount more damage. Unless you're using T2 rigs or sacrificing a hardener, you're not gonna permarun an XL.

[LReminds]

with 2x t2ccc´s you`re cap stable ;p

therefore u can max dps/rof for missions,

it might be a slight difference, but that is the point when u want the max dps performance out of your mission boat.never the less i preffer to spend a fortune in rigs then in faction mods, that reduces the risk of being ganked ;p

[huxley309]

True but you only gain 1.2%dmg for the 4th bcu, personally id fit a pds so you get a gain in cap/resists/recharge, you can always make up the very minor loss with an extra skill level.

If you really want extra dps use faction cruise missiles, ive tried t2's on a raven and they were crap despite specs saying they'd dish out more damage, god knows how ccp work it out.

Why not use a golem anyway?

[LReminds]

yeah this is a old video,

by then this was my shinny mission boat,

now i use a golem 4 bcus t2 launchers with damage cruise ;p

[HellfireSarge]

Right hand of Zazzmataz or Damsel in Distress l4?

The CNR is good but it isnt the best mission boat

[LReminds]

there are atless 4 missions in this video,

CNR was the best till they bring out the GOLEM.

Now Golem is the ultimate Mission Boat.

[HellfireSarge]

my internet only showed me the first 2-3 mins of video, cause my internet sucks, the CNR is good, i was hoping to get one but i got a rokh and i prefer that to a raven now ;)

The golem is a beast, one of the directors in my corp has one. hard skillwise, however not as bad as a command ship, as a question why do you have a Nos on a mission ship?

[LReminds]

the Nos was there cause i was running missions in ammar space therefore many of them are vs blood, and some blood cruisers Nos you, so i nos them back ;p therefore its there for them blood missions. for the rest i used to replace the nos for a 425mm railgun and replace 1 bcu for a magnetic stabs ,for max damage.

if ur using raven 6 cruise 2 railguns.

[HellfireSarge]

The 4 Corvi,(Plural of Corvus) are owned by BoB and Entity

[BazelNuggetz]

text edit: Disturbed

[BazelNuggetz]

This song is by Disterbed, not sure what it's called. the song could be called Queen of the Damned or, i want to say, Forsaken. though, i know for sure the band is disterbed. good vid

[Nateofny]

cnr ftw!

[lordofevil460]

The music is from Queen of the damned

[kinghunter11]

its green its a navy issue

[PR1M33V1L]

good vid, shame missions are boring as shit

[ciscokif]

ok than how is there eight low slots when a navy issue raven only has 5?

[ciscokif]

dude that is not a navy raven maybe a state issue but not a navy issue

[tomank101]

Dude that ship RAWKS!!! I only started doing level 4s a few days a go in my Dominix and relying on Ogres for damage is seriously slow. I am really considering getting a Raven, just looks soooo cool

[LReminds]

0/

Raven will be an excelent option,

personally i recomend you 6x cruise 2x 425mm railguns and 4xbcu, that will give you a similar dps as a Raven Issue.

wont take you much longer then 60 min to run a G.E.

[marcuscorder]

the music went very very well with it.

[knight508]

It's good but not the best, its more of the laziest missioning boat. Missions are boring enough. At least when I use my maelstrom I have to use a little brain power to cope with transversal/falloff/optimal stuffs.

[LReminds]

i agree with you,

unless you like to watch a movie meanwhile

running a G.E. or a W.C ... ;p

[skaegetadeg]

as you see in 1:42 your cap i s low! is it a xl or a lagre booster...., you have no chance of perma-run..my sleipnir will own this one

[LReminds]

using xl and cap stable at 40%. and its a mission setup not pvpng setup.

[skaegetadeg]

then...my bad! i'll go stfu now ^^

[ckrewt]

thankyou, maybe you could give me a list of what you have in your slots for this beast? and also what rigs your using? :)

[LReminds]

lol,

if you need help fitting your ship just convo me and i´ll be happy to help you out.

[ckrewt]

i have abit of a noob comment, what do you use to keep your cap so high when your running the shield booster? also what type of cruise missile launchers do you use? abalast?

[LReminds]

i recommend u using a c-type sb and either arb or caldari navy launchers... all depends on how much ur willing to spend...

[FarosWarrior]

thats one of those "i gotta kill before i get killed setups" i like those ;P

[LReminds]

o/ I´ve updated the fitting, now i use 4 bcus and 1 425mm gunn, more effective, better damage now...

[Wipeout724]

He's using heavy missile launchers on it..

[LReminds]

dude , i recommend you watching the video again this time in high resolution(sellect "ver con alta calidad"). this way you will notice i`m using cruise missiles and not heavy missiles...

either way, thanks for watching ;p

[Cataclysmo11]

dude what song is this? i used to have it but i reformatted my hard drive and lost it. i know its korn just dont know the name.

[LReminds]

Queen of The Damned - Forsaken

good movie and best sound track ever ;p

[LReminds]

greetings and thank u for the interest,

the reason i use 5 bcus is to have the maximum damage and rate of fire, obviously the 4th and 5th bcu give me only a only a slight advantage but that is the point ;p

[Luba26]

actually after 4th is absolutely pointless, stacking penalties are such that your ROF moves less than a second better but that is entirely up to you.

[DodgersA75]

How many BCU's you have on that thing? Pointless to put more then 3 tbh