I am Greek too and he pronounces it in a version of the "reconstructed" (by European and American academics) or "restored" ancient Greek pronunciation, which is based on the Erasmian pronunciation. I agree on pronouncing "daseia"--h and extend long vowels but I have my reservations about the diphthongs, the "Y" being pronounced as raw u (I think it was closer to "i" with a vague sound o f u) and the the "Δ,Γ,Β" being pronounced as "D,G,B" instead of "th(the), y(yet),v(vortex)" respectively.
Yes most people use the Erasmian accent.One of the deficiences of the Erasmian accent is the way the diphthongs are pronounced,to my ears sounds very annoying.
It is beyond doubt that the vast majority of non-Greek scholars and students use the restored (some the erasmian) ancient greek pronunciation, but this by no means proves that this the correct one. It is the Greek scholars' absence in pronunciation researches and their insufficient approach of the matter (agreeing without having made a single research on their owns - I mostly speak for the Academy of Athens - yet not teaching this pronunciation in universities) that have established the....
...."restored" as the closest to the real ancient Greek pronunciation. No doubt some changes must have occurred in 2500 years, yet I believe these are about the long vowels extended pronunciation and of Y being pronounced as I wrote previously. I mean no matter the political changes and the cultural bias in the Greek peninsula people can't have change a word from "iskhous" to "ishis" (ισχύς) or the word "paideia" to "peedia" (παιδεία)....
....To make myself more clear, imagine how could the word "εγχειρίδιο" or the word "ελέγχω" be pronounced in the "restored" ancient greek pronunciation....(eg-che-i-ri-dio --- e-leg-cho-o). I see different words here, not different pronunciations of the same word.
To make things more complicated is it proper to use the Erasmian accent or a supposed restored one on Koine texts like the New Testament?Koine phonology is almost the same with the present one except the pronounciation of Ypsilon and the diphthong OI.
I think that the erasmian and the "restored" pronunciation are more distant approaces to the original ancient greek pron. as they were created by scholars who were not in direct contact with the spoken greek language (which is the continuation of the ancient one) and who ignored the koine-byzantine pronunciation (based to "logical" deductions and asumptions). Until a serious research on this delicate issue is done by the academy of Athens or at least by a team of greek academics, I think....
....that modern greek - provided that one preserves the length of the long vowels, uses the "deep breath" for daseia and the specia pronunciation of Ypsilon (like german or french "u" but more "i" to it) - is the best pronunciation for ancient texts, espescially post hellenistic and byzantine. It is not that I do not value the massive work of non-greek scholars. I simply believe that the spoken tradition and modern local greek dialects should be also taken into consideration (which is why I ....
....insist on Greek scholars taking up this task of research). One cannot learn to speak a language properly only through books and logical assumptions, let alone when it is about a 2000-year older version of it.
The truth is somewhere in between I think.Modern Greek pronounciation pronounces many consonants quite differently the diphtongoi are also different and there is no musical stress on the words apart from the facts you mentioned and some others that I surely forget or we do not know.
gehfoohrah??? hahahahahahaha, lol
well, im greek and i'd truly appreciate it if u just stopped destroying our language.
if u cannot pronounce it right, just stop speaking it.
its difficult for english pseaking ppl to actually speak greek.
Γ, γ is not spelled like G,g. It sounds more like y in the word year. So its not "gehfoohrah", its just "yefyra"
lewnidas8785 2 years ago
Having trouble telling Modern Greek from Ancient Greek?
Arissef 2 years ago
No I'm Greek too and he pronounces it in the ancient way,he's wright
Eyrynomos 2 years ago
I am Greek too and he pronounces it in a version of the "reconstructed" (by European and American academics) or "restored" ancient Greek pronunciation, which is based on the Erasmian pronunciation. I agree on pronouncing "daseia"--h and extend long vowels but I have my reservations about the diphthongs, the "Y" being pronounced as raw u (I think it was closer to "i" with a vague sound o f u) and the the "Δ,Γ,Β" being pronounced as "D,G,B" instead of "th(the), y(yet),v(vortex)" respectively.
aliekous 2 years ago
Yes most people use the Erasmian accent.One of the deficiences of the Erasmian accent is the way the diphthongs are pronounced,to my ears sounds very annoying.
Eyrynomos 2 years ago
It is beyond doubt that the vast majority of non-Greek scholars and students use the restored (some the erasmian) ancient greek pronunciation, but this by no means proves that this the correct one. It is the Greek scholars' absence in pronunciation researches and their insufficient approach of the matter (agreeing without having made a single research on their owns - I mostly speak for the Academy of Athens - yet not teaching this pronunciation in universities) that have established the....
aliekous 2 years ago
...."restored" as the closest to the real ancient Greek pronunciation. No doubt some changes must have occurred in 2500 years, yet I believe these are about the long vowels extended pronunciation and of Y being pronounced as I wrote previously. I mean no matter the political changes and the cultural bias in the Greek peninsula people can't have change a word from "iskhous" to "ishis" (ισχύς) or the word "paideia" to "peedia" (παιδεία)....
aliekous 2 years ago
....To make myself more clear, imagine how could the word "εγχειρίδιο" or the word "ελέγχω" be pronounced in the "restored" ancient greek pronunciation....(eg-che-i-ri-dio --- e-leg-cho-o). I see different words here, not different pronunciations of the same word.
aliekous 2 years ago
Correction :gamma before chi was and still is pronounced as "N".The pronounciation we have today started developing even from the Classical ages.
Eyrynomos 2 years ago
.So the current pronounciation is not irrelevant to Classical Greek.
Eyrynomos 2 years ago
To make things more complicated is it proper to use the Erasmian accent or a supposed restored one on Koine texts like the New Testament?Koine phonology is almost the same with the present one except the pronounciation of Ypsilon and the diphthong OI.
Eyrynomos 2 years ago
I think that the erasmian and the "restored" pronunciation are more distant approaces to the original ancient greek pron. as they were created by scholars who were not in direct contact with the spoken greek language (which is the continuation of the ancient one) and who ignored the koine-byzantine pronunciation (based to "logical" deductions and asumptions). Until a serious research on this delicate issue is done by the academy of Athens or at least by a team of greek academics, I think....
aliekous 2 years ago
....that modern greek - provided that one preserves the length of the long vowels, uses the "deep breath" for daseia and the specia pronunciation of Ypsilon (like german or french "u" but more "i" to it) - is the best pronunciation for ancient texts, espescially post hellenistic and byzantine. It is not that I do not value the massive work of non-greek scholars. I simply believe that the spoken tradition and modern local greek dialects should be also taken into consideration (which is why I ....
aliekous 2 years ago
....insist on Greek scholars taking up this task of research). One cannot learn to speak a language properly only through books and logical assumptions, let alone when it is about a 2000-year older version of it.
aliekous 2 years ago
The truth is somewhere in between I think.Modern Greek pronounciation pronounces many consonants quite differently the diphtongoi are also different and there is no musical stress on the words apart from the facts you mentioned and some others that I surely forget or we do not know.
Eyrynomos 2 years ago