How to Build a Recording Studio : Function of the Preamp in a Professional Recording Studio

[Acemoneykillazent]

You can "boothT" the high frequencies....Fuck you daffy duck!

[salanami]

point of the preamp is to raise mic-level signal to line-level signal. That's it. This guy don't know a shit about recording.

[2245DRUMMER]

Man! That is an awesome preamp- Universal Audio stopped manufacturing the M610 Preamp, they make the 610 Solo now, but its not rack gear, and the cheapest 610 preamp in rack gear is the 2 610 or the LA610 MkII which are both more expensive than this pre, why did they dis continue it?!

[MrGondai]

What a shittty studio. And what crappy pre amp.

[mandolinroad]

@MrGondai not a crappy preamp at all but the video is crap, i agree.

[MrGondai]

@mandolinroad well i guess the pre amp could be good, but then again the studio? I got an M-Audio profire 610, and to KRK Rokit 5", a korg keyboard with 2 octaves and im sure its a better quality studio, with room for recording and all.

[mandolinroad]

@MrGondai Well, a preamp is just one part of a studio, that's all that guy showed. I don't know what else he's got. But it you're comparing a pre in a home-studio M-Audio unit to a Universal Audio 1.500+ dollar preamp, you're treading thin ice...

[MrGondai]

@MrGondai well I normally work with a SSl 900 AWS, or an ICON, so no im not comparing, but if you are making a how to build a studio, the pre amp is not the first thing you should concentrate on showing, plus he barely knows how to explain its use. 

[MrGondai]

@mandolinroad well i guess the pre amp could be good, but then again the studio? I got an M-Audio profire 610, and to KRK Rokit 5", a korg keyboard with 2 octaves and im sure its a better quality studio, with room for recording and all. Plus that pre amp only has 2 mic ins and no xlrs?

[AMaseMusic]

i have a behringer b1 mic. i just want to know how to power it and start using it. I dont have any appliances??can anyone help me!!

[kingtoadius]

hey anyone want some real advice?? fuck this expert village bullshit. look for ronan's recording show- ronan chris murphy, now that guy knows what he's talking about. check it out.

[peterm3964]

Expert villiage should read villiage idiots

[CavvyStudios]

This guy's a dimwit.

[chrislago]

Dont like their UA pre, I prefer my Avedis MA5 by a mile!

[CavvyStudios]

@chrislago Same here. I had a guy bring in his Universal Audio LA-610 because he thought it was the shit. My solid state Avalon M5 going through a tube compressor/limiter insert effect in my Korg D1600 mkII sounded much better. The nice tube warmth sound of the tube compressor combined with the clear and open character of the M5 was just more pleasing to the ear than what the UA preamp gave us. My next purchase will be the Lavry Black AD10 with alias-free tube emulation designed by Dan Lavry.

[whathotdog]

notice the blanket covering the TUBE pre, which is a great idea cause tubes dont get hot and its widely know that all UA gear works best at 3000 degrees with no chance of any heat dissipation. this guy thinks he is an engineer, he is part of the reason why 95% of all modern recordings sound like utter poop!

[UberTroll13]

TEH PREAMP AMPLIFIEZZ TEH FREEEKWINSEEZ!!!

Technically, that's an EQ

[unriselyrical]

This is pretty much the worst video ever made. The mornon didn't even say why "ITZ DA MOST IMPORTAHNT PEEZ OF IKWIPMUNT IN TEH STUDIOEZ"...and what he did say was f*cking useless.

[6ninjahs]

do you really need the preamp....does it add that much warmth? so it basically acts like a mic boost?

[sifs4]

YES you need a pre, but the one that's built in to your mixer or interface works too. Depends some pre's add lots of warmth and others are made to be very trandparent (aka ONLY boost it, no effect to the tone)

[CavvyStudios]

@6ninjahs With dynamic mics you don't need a pre. With phantom powered consdenser mics, you need a pre.

[TheProgmagog]

@CavvyStudios All mics need a preamp. There are some new usb condenser mics, but aside from that, all mics need a preamp. Dynamics just dont need phantom power, but they still need their level raised to a line level for recording. Just wondering, when you plug your dynamic mics in, what do you think you are plugging in to? A console? An audio interface mic input? Those inputs all lead to internal mic preamps. The benefit of outboard mic preamps is about sound quality and color.

[carlosaglez1]

@CavvyStudios Jajajajaja, you need a preamp with both type of microphones, what are you talking about?

[privasmusic]

Sorry man, you are wrong, every mic need a preamp (condenser, ribbon, dynamic etc) , condenser mics also need phantom power.

[juiciibeats]

Retardedededed

[dmartinez324]

everyone thinks they know it all. Im just having fun watching and learning. but I must admit I dont learn much from EV. I think its meant for beginners.

[CavvyStudios]

@dmartinez324 No, it's not meant for beginners. Beginners have enough challenges to work through without being misinformed by dumbass wannabe engineers like the one on this video. Notice the blanket on the preamp! WTF??? And he's telling people that a preamp boosts the right frequencies, confusing the role of a preamp with that of an EQ. This video is meant to be deleted. Beginners should AVOID THESE VIDEOS. More experienced engineers might want to watch simply for a chuckle of amusement.

[dearjunehardcore]

@CavvyStudios good point about that blanket lol.

[natfud]

holy shit like it dosent have all the buttons labold the reason he has the camera focused on the pre amp is cus he is just reading the label but he dosnt want you to see that because he wants to act smart but he is just a ragular smart ass trying to be smart.yes all of these expertvillage videos suck like who is perducing this crap and why hasint any one shot the person!!!

[CJ101nicKA]

is it just me or do all the expertvillage videos suck? like every demonstrator in it doesnt know shit about twhat theyre talking about. whoes with me on that? Expertvillage should be called VillageOfTheDumbassCockSuckers­.

[DangerousBastard]

Its not just you, they suck! lol

[discoAL]

@CJ101nicKA naw it aint just you.. expertvillage be sucking i hate everytime i get auto-linked to they sorry @**

[mindphlux]

LOL IT CUTS THE BASSSSS this dude has no idea what a preamp is

[hueseph]

Another "Expert" Village fail. They got the Village part right. Maybe they should look into finding some actual experts. Preamps bring mic level signals to line level. That's all they do unless there is an eq built in.

[j37v]

dude!!!.... what the hell are you talkin about frequencies with a preamp?!?!?

frequencies are changed by EQs... that right part of that preamp is EQ.... the left left is GAIN and the actual preamp... which again, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREQUENCIES...

learn a little more before you publish this shit bro.... and if it was a mistake... please edit video cuz this is the type of stuff that confuse people. =)

[togo002]

No offense but you have the wrong idea. Preamps do affect frequency curves since preamps, depending on their construction and/or components, have inherent frequency curves. And when the signal passes through the preamp it is "coloured" by the preamp. That is why most studios have multiple preamps at the ready because engineers use different preamps according to their tastes and situation. I think what you are thinking of is the power amp since they aren't supposed to colour the freq band.

[j37v]

ok... depending on the components (capacitors and all others that can filter), and the mic as well, the preamp does affect how the sound comes out, more mids, more lows, and highs, etc.

BUT! the primary function of a preamp is to boost amplitude of the sound waves, if it does have an EQ... its different from what he says at 0:25

anyways the point im triyin to make is that since the preamp boosts mic level signal, just the amplitude... you cant say that it boosts frequencies, frequencies are

[togo002]

not to be dick but he did say "the" frequencies meaning the whole spectrum. Had he said "a" frequency then I would have personally supported you in calling him an idiot XD

[j37v]

frequencies ARE -affected- by the change in amplitude and the mic pre, but thats not the parameter that the preamp is essentially built for. THAT was the point i was tryin to make, sorry if it came across as stubborn. =\

[togo002]

No worries ^^

[henryflint123]

boosstht

[bazookascrew]

"Boosts the frequencies that you need to boost in order to get the full sound of the voice." I thought they supplied gain to the microphone? Get back to me 'bout that!

[j37v]

"Boosts the frequencies that you need to boost in..."

gain does not affect frequencies... just the amplitude, EQs affect frequencies.

[Acidrain1993]

im mic'ing a guitar cab with an SM57 and running the mic into an eq and then straight into my little 8 track recorder. i wanna know how NOT to get crap sound. i really want to get my amps true tone to get thru but no matter what i do (mic placement and eq settings) i get total crap tone. will a preamp help me get my amps tru tone in there? please help!!!

[TheKeyboardDrummer]

Happy to help if I can. You shouldn't necessarily need a preamp, but if the recorder has cheap/bad preamps on it, a separate preamp may help. We definitely need more info, though, like what kind of cab, room configuration, cables, EQ, 8-track recorder, etc. that you're using. I mic'd up a cab with an SM-57 in a closet directly into my MOTU 828 and even the dry mix had a killer tone on the recording. I'd also like to know what kind of troubleshooting you've already done.

[meowsers450]

does it have an output source? if then, you dont need to mic it, just plug it strait into your 8 track recorder.

[SolosWithStyle]

This largely depends on the mic and the preamp your using... If you have an SM57, place it slightly offcentre from the speaker cone of your amplifier. The closer you put the SM57 to the amp, the less "Air" or slight room depth you will get. Personally, I would get 2 SM57's and a condenser, and place the SM57s in closer proximity to the amp (try one offcentre and one on and blend to taste) and the condenser slightly back from the amp to get some air which you can mix and mess with later on.

[RandyRhoadsFan397]

This may not be the case, but I helped someone fix a crap tone when I realized the mixer was going into the Marantz recorder, and the recorder inputs were set to mic (not line, as was supposed to be). I'm not sure if this will help, but does the 8 track have a switch that toggles mic and line levels? If it does, make sure it's set to mic, not line. Just a shot in the dark, but I hope this can help.

[togo002]

I suggest just try again with the mic placement. Avoid using the EQ as much as possible. Try the preamp but it will still fall on good mic placement. Hope this help bro

[limit6]

To a total beginner, this would give you a rough idea. This guy fucking blows at making thorough educational tutorials. He should assume his viewers (LEARNERS) aren't complete idiots, and should actually tell them what's happening as opposed to oversimplifying.

[RainKingRecording]

Not only is it a very important piece of equipment in his studio. It's the only piece of equipment.

[Jaspaahh]

hahahahah

[ahgodson]

lol!!

[da805boy]

A preamp doesn't boost frequencies, it amplifies the AMPLITUDE

[genevaslab]

it can do, most have high or low cuts. to be honest, I use preamps as postamps lol, it saves time and doesn't wear out the singers voice and you can tweak it and use it the context of the actual recording, comp or take.

[sergitoydulce]

if i have the mbox and i buy the 610 would it sound diferent and how ?? why if the mbox already has a pre amp ? plzz help

[jjedwards8]

Hey, the 610 has much higher quality pre-amps! i used the 610 for about 6 months before I purchased the 2626. They have the same pre-amps, and I have created some amazing recordings. Those pre amps coupled with some SDC mic's create some amazing acoustic guitar tone :)

[flip18o]

wut you think about twin finity 710?

[jjedwards8]

Well, The blending of sold state and tube power that this pre-amp can manage is impressive. It can give you a lot of versatility, especially when you want to clean up a guitar or drum track. But if you just want a versatile Pre-amp to put in front of your interface, i would go with the PreSonus Studio Chanel.. its still cheap and one of the best vacuum tube pre amps out there.

[flip18o]

so you recommend pre-sonas over twin finit 710 ??

[hueseph]

Presonus Studio Channel is another starved plate tube design. The 710 has a discreet solid state and tube circuit at full plate voltage. There is no comparison. Essentially the 710 is like a 610 and a 110 in parallel with a blend option. Not exactly but something to that extent.

[dh234]

is it just me, or is the audio of this video distorted> hahahaha

[GUSTAV1CC]

the LA-610 is a good preamp aswell

[harrymonk68]

wank

[eArtrash]

total wank

[KillerNumberX]

absolutely complete wank

[djjaxon]

absolutely complete fucking wank

[nick1427]

hey thanks alot! i was looking at getting the universal audio solo 610 wich is just a single channel la 610 so it should fatten up my thinner sounding vocals

[McgregorKLB]

thats right! Nice Vid :)