@R4Akai , i just mean that they need tear 2-3 tech or a bigger army, or atleast a mixture of units to show their true strenght. They all have great micro , but i think on a macro level its much more obvious.
2v2 and 3v3 are relatively short games and seldom end with higher tech.
Jaedong lost his hydra army because he was micro'ing his mutas to take out HTs. The commentators can say he was "sloppy" but honestly, who can have perfect muta-micro on 1/3 health mutas and still get HTs while also storm-dodging? A computer could... but no contemporary human, imo.
@LayhoooRS2 I heard that it's because they probably skipped school to go wach the game and they don't wanna get caught. LOL , gotta do watcha gotta do :).
Not only would they beta test it, they have been actively involved in pre-beta balance testing. For instance, they've got JulyZerg advising them on the balance of mutalisks. The Korean pro scene is intimately involved in the development of SC2. I would assume Blizzard will not rest until they've made a game the aforementioned pro scene finds acceptable since Korea's such a huge market.
I thought I saw it in some Blizzcon coverage, but I could easily be confused. Most of my SC news comes from the commentators, and given the tendency of some of them to make stuff up, I'd put this one in the "Unconfirmed bucket" unless you can make Google turn up more than I was able to when attempting to find a better source for this.
well ofc the parents watch the starcraft matches on Tv in Korea you have many channels that shows many different leagues like MSL & OSL ..... in korea gaming is 1 of the country sports so ofc you can watch starcraft on the Tv in korea ......
At least, he cried for THE loss of those Zerglings and vowed for their Vengeance!! >=)
Bush/Cheney wouldn't give a rat's arse on MURDER of Pat Tillman, using Depleted Uranium that harmed US Servicemen, 9/11 Inside Job, Guantanamo Bay TORTURES, running American Econmic into the TOILET, and so on!! >=P
Guys the mistake that jaedong made was a freak accident. He accidentally cancelled his spire so his scourge timing got messed up, hence the 4 dead overlords. It's really hard to notice in the video...
No big misstakes? he lost 4 overlords early game. If the commentaries had focused on the game they'd have noticed. It's a shame, cause I usualy love listening to these 2 guys.
Atm it's a bit hard to say. Flash is still up there. Fantasy is still doing well, and so on. I'd still say Flash overall, but I'm a noob and I like him. I'm sure other players will have a much more informed opinion than mine.
Yeah Flash's strength isn't so much his creativity but his sheer machine-like macro and solid play. He can be creative at times, but not like fantasy. However, I think Flash is better than Fantasy because overall he's a much more solid gamer. Again, I'm no pro gamer myself, but even watching his games on violetak and diggity and moletrap and all that, Flash has time and again demonstrated his solidity.
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Jaedong is the best player in the world. and Zerg are the best race in starcraft. This game all came down to lack of economic harrassment by jaedongs muta's and the few lucky storms that bisu got on them. A zerg player like jaedong is allowed to mess up so many times and still potentially come back but if bisu messes up against jaedong and lets his ecomony get damaged even once or twice then he is fucked!!.
dude wtf each race is equally balanced. it takes howthe players play dumbass... i could go aainst bisu, and i culd 4 ool him whle he was totlly undefended like if he went for a 14 nxus. it depends onthe builds dumbass
These matches would be live on television all over their country, imagine being on nfl and they centered on your face, im sure you might hide your face or get nervous
Whats the point of hiding when theyve already got you for like 2 seconds? People at NFL games LOVE to get on camera, they shove each other around to try to get INTO the shot, not OUT of it!
This is the most tech savvy country on earth, all these kids are probably all over youtube vlogging etc.. and they are afraid of 5 seconds on camera in a starcraft game?
Most of those kids skipped school or lied to their parents about where they are going when they go to a match so they try to hide their faces however ineffective it is.
and about that cancelled spire ruining the game for jaedong.. i think it was intentional, coz biu scouted the 3-hatch muta, so he cancelled spire and replaced it with hatch, as seen in his natural,, so i should say stop making excuses
best players are not merely judged by being the winningest, i know 3 people who wins alot of games and can be considered best in their respective races:
There is no "best" starcraft player. Will never ever be one.
The best starcraft player would technically be the best at ALL 3 RACES!!! That would be the best starcraft player. We only see the best players from their respective races. No one is going to be the best of all the races together.
ur reasoning is falwed, u would not have to be the best at all races to be the best:
if u play 1 race and win the most big titles, have the best win % and can beat other top players more than they beat u, it is undoubtable that u are better than everyone else.
You're probably thinking along the lines of the ULTIMATE SC player which would be someone who's perfect at mindgames, builds, all races, micro, macro etc. but the BEST SC player is by definition the guy that is the most skilled SC player at the time being, not the best starcraft player possible..
power ranking only covers one week, meaning flash is in a slump, apparently you dont know what "time being" means...go learn how to read english before you start talking plox
Wow. First time I've seen Bisu win. Watched about 5 games at random and he's lost every time. Heard so much about "HOW MUCH BISU KICKS ASS!!!!" So far this is the only game I've seen him win.
Because most of the viewers are students and they are suppose to be either studying or be in class. Thus if their parents, friends, or co workers see them in the show, they're in trouble.
what were they micromanaging in the beginning of the game? Their APM must've been like 500 in when they were just mining! What were they clicking on and why?
Well at the very very start they split the probes/drones so they all go off to seperate patches early. But beyond that it's really just part of their warming up. Also, If they make a habit of clicking around when it doesn't really matter then they're a lot less likely to slack off when it does.
Great spot ijuka. That Spire being canceled accidentally really killed off the game for him. If he hadn't loss those Overlords because of that rare mistake he would've easily overran Bisu's base with Mutas.
No wonder why he was so pissed off. That mistake shouldn't be made by gamers, let alone professionals. But I guess it goes to show everyone is human and people do make mistakes, even those who are regarded as the best. Good game though, tough luck for JD I guess.
yay, two of my favorite players play against each other in a long game! wohoo!! It's like santa claus and the easter bunny want to give you a present which is better than the other's, and they're fighting above it in an epic match.
Protoss seem so overpowered in mid to late game it always seems like unless the zerg player can cripple them early on it's always a win for the protoss.
But once the zerg gets any defilers out at all, the protoss really needs to work to protect expansions. but i agree, in mid game with storm and mass goons, zerg cant do much to stop it.
both Protoss and Terran need to make better use of their individual units inorder to really win.
so what I'm trying to say is that Zergs need to find some ways to be creative, such as those few that use burrow to scout the entire map, inorder to really out perform both Terrans and Protosses. the difference becomes a lot clearer now at A+-S class games, when both players are pretty equal. most of the times the Protoss/Terran will beat the Zerg unless they make a cruicial mistake themselves.
with Zergs it's always the same. 2 hatch muta, 3 hatch muta, 5 hatch hydra, etc the build itself doesnt matter much, well unless you're Jaedong playing vs a non A class player, than Mutas alone will win the match. all these builds eventually lead to a macro fest that requires the Zerg to just overrun the enemy's army without too much unit micro, besides maybe a zergling surround or a storm dodge here and there.
this game only shows 1 thing. Zergs in general, even the best of them, aka Jaedong, are just too damn predictable. it's always about how many units I can macro up to overrun the enemy's army.
both Protoss and Terran have a few different strategies available to them, even while in macro or micro modes,
Actually sorry, it happens in the video around 7:31. You can't see the spire actually being canceled, but the spire is selected and becomes a drone in the bottom screen, when it's about halfway done. This mistake solely cost JD the game.
no i think ijuka is right, because if you compare the building's icon intensity (red/orange-ness) at 7:30 and then at 8:10, you can see that the spire at 8:10 is still being built, but from the intensity at 7:30 it should have been finished already. 40 seconds is a long time, too long, especially if it was already half finished.
Bisu in total control the whole way through. His apm had to have been through the roof there. What a game.
CaptainCrunchOwns 2 weeks ago
Jaedong Bisu Stork/Flash - 3v3 - ??? ??? ??? :)
Zerg - Protoss - Humans
Unbeatable :p
R4Akai 1 month ago
@R4Akai maybe with a 12-15 min no rush arrangement otherwise it would come mostly to micro
chiruzbg 3 weeks ago
@chiruzbg u think those 3-4 pro gamer need 12-15minutes to get startet`? Oo um.
cant believe that .... they know how to make they starts ....
R4Akai 3 weeks ago
@R4Akai , i just mean that they need tear 2-3 tech or a bigger army, or atleast a mixture of units to show their true strenght. They all have great micro , but i think on a macro level its much more obvious.
2v2 and 3v3 are relatively short games and seldom end with higher tech.
chiruzbg 3 weeks ago
casters... muted
WhoIamisIamwhois 2 months ago
fuck moletrap
jeewoo12 5 months ago
Bosuit pwns jewish nubs
Graham6762 5 months ago
what's with asian and not showing face? they all look the same...
rabbitch10 5 months ago
bisu all the way!!
WhiteEnvoy 5 months ago
Youtube you are Necro-posting hard right now. But in this case... I'll allow it.
DrunkZergling 8 months ago
I'm a P player but damn jaedong has his heart in the game...
utarian7 8 months ago
I watched Sc1 commentaries all the time ages ago and then i started watching sc2 and now watching this game I have no idea what's going on LOL.
TfeJonno 10 months ago
NOOOOOOOO jaedong lost!!! D:
venomancer54321 11 months ago
huge jaedong fail this game
redryan20000 1 year ago
22:51 & 23:15 :D
arkeraymor 1 year ago
點解唔用神族?
neywainn 1 year ago
@neywainn 哩勒工蝦？
kyle80416 6 months ago
Game starts at 2:00
ethurial 1 year ago
the camera takes away korean girl's virginity.
syan8182 1 year ago
Best commentary ever! I never get tired of watching this.
tehvolka 1 year ago
Jaedong lost his hydra army because he was micro'ing his mutas to take out HTs. The commentators can say he was "sloppy" but honestly, who can have perfect muta-micro on 1/3 health mutas and still get HTs while also storm-dodging? A computer could... but no contemporary human, imo.
fixeeg 1 year ago
i have assian hair :O
XD
XscreamzeroX 1 year ago
ohhhhhh so slick biso at 5:58
dynomitekiller 1 year ago
why do the kids hide their faces
LayhoooRS2 1 year ago
@LayhoooRS2 I heard that it's because they probably skipped school to go wach the game and they don't wanna get caught. LOL , gotta do watcha gotta do :).
shmuckling 1 year ago
"unconclusive"? lol
omgiheartpie 1 year ago
6:08 That ridiculous ring of huuuuuuh...death! LOL!!!!
Rafontle 1 year ago
Starts at 1:52
hypergod3 1 year ago 5
Great commentary guys.
dafunker00 1 year ago
to them...it's not just a game...great game, was rooting for jaedong lol
WafflePirate 1 year ago
he wasn't crying ffs. that's flash's style.
danmanjones 1 year ago
**Spoiler**
Bisu!!!!!!!!!!! \o/
Men, I hope Bisu gets back in shape. He's been slopy lately, too bad, I really like him. These days Jadeong can singlehandedly destroy him u_u
Carutsu 1 year ago
he got beat so bad he cried. its just a game lol
unsunghero18 1 year ago
Lol Jaedong cried
darkwatch1234 1 year ago
Rise and Moletrap. Bisu and Jaedong! i think i'll watch this again
chrisbary 1 year ago
wow. fucking amazing.
peppypeter 1 year ago
Bisu is sound yummy.
sp33dy99 1 year ago
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i fucking hate u moletrap. let me just ask are u that annoying little whore kid screaming in early sc com games?
Lazurasoneoneone 1 year ago
Not only would they beta test it, they have been actively involved in pre-beta balance testing. For instance, they've got JulyZerg advising them on the balance of mutalisks. The Korean pro scene is intimately involved in the development of SC2. I would assume Blizzard will not rest until they've made a game the aforementioned pro scene finds acceptable since Korea's such a huge market.
ameryllw 1 year ago
@ameryllw It's not surprising at all that they got July for that particular job. Where did you read this, though?
MaskedEmrys 1 year ago
Man, where did I see that...
I thought I saw it in some Blizzcon coverage, but I could easily be confused. Most of my SC news comes from the commentators, and given the tendency of some of them to make stuff up, I'd put this one in the "Unconfirmed bucket" unless you can make Google turn up more than I was able to when attempting to find a better source for this.
ameryllw 1 year ago
Would the South Korea's StarCraft Professional Competition Circuit BETA TEST the NEW StarCraft 2!?
Would they ACCEPT or REJECT the NEW StarCraft 2!? I'm just curious!! >=)
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
depends
jonoy52 1 year ago
well ofc the parents watch the starcraft matches on Tv in Korea you have many channels that shows many different leagues like MSL & OSL ..... in korea gaming is 1 of the country sports so ofc you can watch starcraft on the Tv in korea ......
FlyffBP4ever 2 years ago
What exactly is so lol about that?!
Tutenstein 2 years ago
lol jaedong cried
jetsamjetsam 2 years ago
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jetsamjetsam,
"lol jaedong cried"
At least, he cried for THE loss of those Zerglings and vowed for their Vengeance!! >=)
Bush/Cheney wouldn't give a rat's arse on MURDER of Pat Tillman, using Depleted Uranium that harmed US Servicemen, 9/11 Inside Job, Guantanamo Bay TORTURES, running American Econmic into the TOILET, and so on!! >=P
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
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Bizuuu WON WOWOWOWOW
TomValedro 2 years ago
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GG...Holy shit.
Bisu won.
cashoplz 2 years ago
uh...spoiler alert?
Thanks buddy...
Itsnattatooma 2 years ago 3
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@cashoplz Nice spoiler u useless retard.Get cancer and die faggot.
abs1abs 2 years ago
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@abs1abs the video is 7 month old, you shitface, grow up kid
cashoplz 2 years ago
lol, the students hide their faces from their parents in the matches? does that mean the parents watch the starcraft matches on tv?
shankster909 2 years ago 46
@shankster909
nah there just jizzing in their pants from the prospect of seeing jaedong vs bisu.
slowmanrunning2 1 year ago
@shankster909 everyone watches starcraft matches on tv in korea
Skjoldvall 1 year ago
@shankster909 everyone watches starcraft in korea. I MEAN IT
Fanggle 1 year ago 2
@shankster909
Teacher: "Michael, was that you on TV, aren't you supposed to be sick"
panterafist 1 year ago 2
@shankster909 i guess they wanna see if their kids are skipping school. lol
ThePeRuAno18 10 months ago
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these live starcraft are so boring now
Rectiony3 2 years ago
Guys the mistake that jaedong made was a freak accident. He accidentally cancelled his spire so his scourge timing got messed up, hence the 4 dead overlords. It's really hard to notice in the video...
m4gdelen4 2 years ago
time?
capelanus 2 years ago
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this ppl are sooo retarde, why they cover they're faces, if they feel ashame of being there y do they go ¬¬'
awesome game btw =D
xXxThOmMyEbXxX 2 years ago
i think some of them are skipping school
earthman202 2 years ago 3
hahaha ya it make sence
xXxThOmMyEbXxX 2 years ago
No big misstakes? he lost 4 overlords early game. If the commentaries had focused on the game they'd have noticed. It's a shame, cause I usualy love listening to these 2 guys.
Fireeyes91 2 years ago
Stfu with the match up and map talk. :( Comment on the acctual game!
Fireeyes91 2 years ago
they dont know anything about the game
SadegoGG 2 years ago
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JAEDONG BLOWS DONG
vietboi77 2 years ago
shut the fuck up.
danieltian 2 years ago
vietboy blows bois
danieltian 2 years ago
nom nom nom nom! That Defiler was damn hungry!
xBiocide 2 years ago 20
wow epic !
Beaniman84 2 years ago
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LiTeDBeaCoN 2 years ago
jesus, bisu is so good when he is at the peak of his game
younglinkms 2 years ago
Jaedong is the best :P
drag0nelf 2 years ago
Who is the best terran right now? is it still flash or who?
Erkisback1 2 years ago
Atm it's a bit hard to say. Flash is still up there. Fantasy is still doing well, and so on. I'd still say Flash overall, but I'm a noob and I like him. I'm sure other players will have a much more informed opinion than mine.
drizztisgod 2 years ago 2
Well your right Flash is considered the best terran atm and the only thing holding fantasy back is his tvz im told.
Erkisback1 2 years ago
Statistically, Flash is better than Fantasy, but to be honest his games are boring as fuck compared to Fantasy's.
bsktba11kevin 2 years ago
Yeah Flash's strength isn't so much his creativity but his sheer machine-like macro and solid play. He can be creative at times, but not like fantasy. However, I think Flash is better than Fantasy because overall he's a much more solid gamer. Again, I'm no pro gamer myself, but even watching his games on violetak and diggity and moletrap and all that, Flash has time and again demonstrated his solidity.
drizztisgod 2 years ago 2
toss is unstoppable
YouDidntdoAnything 2 years ago
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Jaedong is the best player in the world. and Zerg are the best race in starcraft. This game all came down to lack of economic harrassment by jaedongs muta's and the few lucky storms that bisu got on them. A zerg player like jaedong is allowed to mess up so many times and still potentially come back but if bisu messes up against jaedong and lets his ecomony get damaged even once or twice then he is fucked!!.
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dude wtf each race is equally balanced. it takes howthe players play dumbass... i could go aainst bisu, and i culd 4 ool him whle he was totlly undefended like if he went for a 14 nxus. it depends onthe builds dumbass
Sc2ggrocks 2 years ago
Why does Bisu appear red to Jaedong? XD
UmbreonMessiah 2 years ago
shift-tabbing changes colors so that you're teal, allies are yellow, and enemies are red
much easier to see who's on your side and who isn't
MostCreativeName 2 years ago
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WTF is with the audience being afraid of the camera... I dont understand that shit. Weirdos.
joeyisfunny 2 years ago
These matches would be live on television all over their country, imagine being on nfl and they centered on your face, im sure you might hide your face or get nervous
ikamico 2 years ago
Whats the point of hiding when theyve already got you for like 2 seconds? People at NFL games LOVE to get on camera, they shove each other around to try to get INTO the shot, not OUT of it!
This is the most tech savvy country on earth, all these kids are probably all over youtube vlogging etc.. and they are afraid of 5 seconds on camera in a starcraft game?
joeyisfunny 2 years ago
South Korea is the most tech savvy country on Earth what?
justinyh7 2 years ago
Pretty much, yes.
joeyisfunny 2 years ago
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ikamico 2 years ago
Most of those kids skipped school or lied to their parents about where they are going when they go to a match so they try to hide their faces however ineffective it is.
viridis7749 2 years ago
what is sawwy?? is it a slang?
xxxCRAZYLOVExxx 2 years ago
I dont know why the author removed your comment...
Anyway, in reply... It almost seems like its the cool thing to do now. Like the camera isnt good enough to see their faces. Its turned into a fad.
joeyisfunny 2 years ago
lol dude! the person who writes the comment IS the author!!. he removed his own comment.
XenverX 2 years ago 3
i wonder why they're looking so pissed off at the beginning...
"i dont want to play my state wants it.."
xXCorruptionx 2 years ago
Does anyone know where I can find the replay for this? :3
thedipmeister 2 years ago
They dont release the replays.
sMsNT 2 years ago
D=
Whyyy?
thedipmeister 2 years ago
i found the the difference of cheer volume for Bisu and Jaedong amusing >.> Looks like Bisu is loved so much more :O
JAFrk 2 years ago
In my opinion Bisu is the best player there is, Protoss all the way!
WhiteEnvoy 2 years ago
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Stop praising this cow-faced named Bisu .
speedjounetsu 2 years ago
Fantastic game. Bisu is such an awesome player to watch.
tegraphile 2 years ago
and about that cancelled spire ruining the game for jaedong.. i think it was intentional, coz biu scouted the 3-hatch muta, so he cancelled spire and replaced it with hatch, as seen in his natural,, so i should say stop making excuses
BisuDMan 2 years ago
stfu
KoreanSeaBass 2 years ago
best players are not merely judged by being the winningest, i know 3 people who wins alot of games and can be considered best in their respective races:
zerg Overmind Jaedong,
Mech-Mac Specialist Flash and
protoss commander bisu
among these three, its arguable who is the best
BisuDMan 2 years ago
anyone have any idea of what specs you will need to run starcraft 2?
Nit3x09z 2 years ago
There is no "best" starcraft player. Will never ever be one.
The best starcraft player would technically be the best at ALL 3 RACES!!! That would be the best starcraft player. We only see the best players from their respective races. No one is going to be the best of all the races together.
xTnT87 2 years ago
ur reasoning is falwed, u would not have to be the best at all races to be the best:
if u play 1 race and win the most big titles, have the best win % and can beat other top players more than they beat u, it is undoubtable that u are better than everyone else.
daltondoyou4 2 years ago
your spelling is flawed.
litmus123 2 years ago
thats ok, when i make arguments i dont worry about how pretty they look.
daltondoyou4 2 years ago
You're probably thinking along the lines of the ULTIMATE SC player which would be someone who's perfect at mindgames, builds, all races, micro, macro etc. but the BEST SC player is by definition the guy that is the most skilled SC player at the time being, not the best starcraft player possible..
AguntJ 2 years ago
@AguntJ Wouldn't the ultimate SC player be like...god? lol
Renegadeful 2 years ago
Jaedong tearing up on Heartbreak Ridge.
GG
lilman0392 2 years ago 2
is there a european or american pro well not like korean style of course but high level gamers that compete in tournaments?
raidtothegrave 2 years ago
Yep there are many high level foreign (non korean) players. Some of them are ret, idra (he's in korea), mondragon, nony, etc.
rubenoide 2 years ago
I havent played in ages so i can only come up with Elky and Testy and Blackman. (yes, i've been out of it THAT long).
YumeNoEien 2 years ago
Damit I love watching the micro'ing screens instead of the observer screens
xTnT87 2 years ago
i personally like bisu, just cuz hes protoss... a few storms really made a huge difference O.o
qqqqaaaawwwwssss 2 years ago 3
bisu is sexy good
younglinkms 2 years ago
I love how Bisu tries that cute scouting harass shit and jaedong just has none of it he some how makes the drones attack while they mine
cdavistwo 2 years ago
lol GG!!!!
"Perhaps you would like to express your feelings rise in something other than shouts..." "WOOOOOOOOO!"
MrFootball127 2 years ago
intoximacated got butt hurt cause he was stupid and read comments before watching the video
headcrabhunter001 2 years ago
Protoss one bisu
Zerg one jaedong
Terran one flash
AlwaysExam 2 years ago 17
...flash isnt even top ten power ranked, fantasy has taken his spot for the time being...
JAFrk 2 years ago
yeah flash is a noob, thats why he won the gom classics ..... watch more sc games pls before talking
tuffology 2 years ago
power ranking only covers one week, meaning flash is in a slump, apparently you dont know what "time being" means...go learn how to read english before you start talking plox
JAFrk 2 years ago
@AlwaysExam n1 terran Slayers_Boxer period
fila365 1 year ago
@AlwaysExam Stork is the number one protoss not Bisu
ChineseSCFan 1 year ago
@ChineseSCFan wrong ... but nice try
Zuckerstange666 1 year ago
Bruce Lee scores:)
Pioware 2 years ago 2
Yeah, awesome game, with the two of my favorite players. Sad to see one of them lose though :P
Good commentary as well.
Chrijz 2 years ago 6
For christ sake, don't spoil the match in the comments, guys.
intoximacated 2 years ago 3
there's a lightbulb feature in case you don't want yourselves soiled
mnfchen 2 years ago
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LyricsTN 2 years ago
Bisu is the fucking man.
goosejuice288 2 years ago 3
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Wow. First time I've seen Bisu win. Watched about 5 games at random and he's lost every time. Heard so much about "HOW MUCH BISU KICKS ASS!!!!" So far this is the only game I've seen him win.
teufelhexen 2 years ago
he had a bad streak at the end of last season but he was averaging like 100% wins before that
crisrnrn 2 years ago
awesome match
impeccable play from bisu
jaedong got off on slightly wrong foot and could never quite recover
gg
ben0katz 2 years ago
why are the korean so afraid of the camera!!! north americans LOVE the camera lmao, different cultures i guess.
unibomber111 2 years ago
Because most of the viewers are students and they are suppose to be either studying or be in class. Thus if their parents, friends, or co workers see them in the show, they're in trouble.
yugilynn 2 years ago 4
Don't be stupid.
People in Korea are very very shy, like, they don't kiss in public and stuff like that, so they don't like to be on camera either.
cancerbero8 2 years ago
what were they micromanaging in the beginning of the game? Their APM must've been like 500 in when they were just mining! What were they clicking on and why?
rmannava 2 years ago
Well at the very very start they split the probes/drones so they all go off to seperate patches early. But beyond that it's really just part of their warming up. Also, If they make a habit of clicking around when it doesn't really matter then they're a lot less likely to slack off when it does.
asdfers 2 years ago 3
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why the sound is only bla bla bla and no game sound this sux..
Haluluable 2 years ago
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Why koreans are such a pussy to be showed on tv? How much people are going to see them?
LucaTurilli89 2 years ago
Many of them are supposed to be in school at the time.
Optimator7 2 years ago
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So it seems koreans are fucking around a lot with their educational system like every country does :(.
LucaTurilli89 2 years ago
i think its" how many ppl" instead of "how much"
OnmyRedEye 2 years ago
Thank you I think you are right :D. lol
LucaTurilli89 2 years ago
Great game, I still think JD > Bisu :) but they're both pretty incredible.
stevethemacguy 2 years ago
Man i want to hear what is going on in jeadong's head as he is playing this match
sumcrazydood 2 years ago
probably in his head is a little heads-up display of Kerrigan and her twitching blades
paier2 2 years ago 3
Great spot ijuka. That Spire being canceled accidentally really killed off the game for him. If he hadn't loss those Overlords because of that rare mistake he would've easily overran Bisu's base with Mutas.
No wonder why he was so pissed off. That mistake shouldn't be made by gamers, let alone professionals. But I guess it goes to show everyone is human and people do make mistakes, even those who are regarded as the best. Good game though, tough luck for JD I guess.
neonandamber 2 years ago
yay, two of my favorite players play against each other in a long game! wohoo!! It's like santa claus and the easter bunny want to give you a present which is better than the other's, and they're fighting above it in an epic match.
pure awesomeness.
Schmidt54 2 years ago
Love SC, love Bisu, love Rise, love Moletrap! Great game, great commentary, good times!
RonjaRT 2 years ago 2
great commentary.
sc2battlereport 2 years ago
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ChanOwns 2 years ago
Protoss seem so overpowered in mid to late game it always seems like unless the zerg player can cripple them early on it's always a win for the protoss.
Freeman396 2 years ago
yea
crystyxn 2 years ago
But once the zerg gets any defilers out at all, the protoss really needs to work to protect expansions. but i agree, in mid game with storm and mass goons, zerg cant do much to stop it.
justinyh7 2 years ago
both Protoss and Terran need to make better use of their individual units inorder to really win.
so what I'm trying to say is that Zergs need to find some ways to be creative, such as those few that use burrow to scout the entire map, inorder to really out perform both Terrans and Protosses. the difference becomes a lot clearer now at A+-S class games, when both players are pretty equal. most of the times the Protoss/Terran will beat the Zerg unless they make a cruicial mistake themselves.
HeLL12aiseR 2 years ago 4
with Zergs it's always the same. 2 hatch muta, 3 hatch muta, 5 hatch hydra, etc the build itself doesnt matter much, well unless you're Jaedong playing vs a non A class player, than Mutas alone will win the match. all these builds eventually lead to a macro fest that requires the Zerg to just overrun the enemy's army without too much unit micro, besides maybe a zergling surround or a storm dodge here and there.
HeLL12aiseR 2 years ago 2
that was funny. thx for laff
a99915880528 2 years ago
this game only shows 1 thing. Zergs in general, even the best of them, aka Jaedong, are just too damn predictable. it's always about how many units I can macro up to overrun the enemy's army.
both Protoss and Terran have a few different strategies available to them, even while in macro or micro modes,
HeLL12aiseR 2 years ago 5
PWN!!!
axlemn 2 years ago 2
Excellent game.
excessivness 2 years ago
Jaedong vs bisu games = lots of views.
Shindrah09 2 years ago
Actually sorry, it happens in the video around 7:31. You can't see the spire actually being canceled, but the spire is selected and becomes a drone in the bottom screen, when it's about halfway done. This mistake solely cost JD the game.
ijuka 2 years ago 4
This has been flagged as spam show
The observer selected the spire, then a drone, then the spire again.
toad3k 2 years ago
no i think ijuka is right, because if you compare the building's icon intensity (red/orange-ness) at 7:30 and then at 8:10, you can see that the spire at 8:10 is still being built, but from the intensity at 7:30 it should have been finished already. 40 seconds is a long time, too long, especially if it was already half finished.
mdatile3 2 years ago