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  • Bjorling was a poofter

  • Straordinario!!!

  • Beniamino Gigli / Franco Ghione, Orchestra della Scala Milan 1934 / EMI

  • Benamino Gigli one of the greatest tenors that ever lived next to Caruso. Maestro Gusieppe Moretti who I studied with in my younger days studied with Gigli. I am 64 years old and I am on the you tube trying to get some recognition on what I am doing. I know I can do better on these videos that I have made thus far but just have to get myself back in shape again. I am under the you tube as Mr.GBakarich, jerrybaker1947, jerry baker64 are some of my tags. Thank you gbakarich@yahoo.com

  • Bjoerling's wife said Jussi had the 2nd most beautiful tenor voice in the world! In her opinion #1 was Gigli... Personally (from recordings) I prefer Bjoerling's bright laser beam placement and legato, BUT to know anyone's voice one has to hear them live. The most obvious example is Birgit Nilsson. If you didn't hear her live, you've really never heard her voice at all.

  • La rende molto bene l'aria, ma qui c'è bisogno di più drammaticità e una voce più potente...saluti

  • lanza=movie star

  • Bjorling had no voice, he was a master technician but no power behind his voice. Lanza had the most gifted voice, but even that's an understatement coz there has been no other voice like him or before him.

  • @crapfacejoe How could you say that about Bjorling , & as for sying Lanza is up there with the greats . Im speechles

  • @crapfacejoe

    Björling had no voice? I recommend that you look up the live recordings that was made in the mid 50's up to his death. If there ever was a spinto from the 78-rpm era, it was Björling.

  • SQUILO ALL THE WAY!! geesh, he's awesome.

  • Lanza is the king of Vesti La Giubba, no doubt about that. Their on youtube one only has to listen and compare. Gigli is great though, way better than Pavatotti who stinks imo, and on Vesti La Giubba probably sightly better than Caruso.

  • @crapfacejoe I LOVE MARIO LANZA IN EVERYTHING . I LIKE HIM MORE IN THE AMERICAN SONGS THAN IN SOME OPERATIC SELECTIONS . HIS VESTI LA GIUBBA IS WONDERFUL BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOMETHING INTERESTING SEE IF YOU CAN VIEW MARIO DEL MONACO IN VESTI LA GIUBBA WEARING A TUXEDO . I DONT THINK YOU WILL BE DISSAPOINTED . IM NOT TRYING TO DISSUADE YOU AWAY FROM LANZA BUT YOU MIGHT ALSO ENJOY DEL MONACO. ENJOY

  • @sugarbist I love Del Monica and his style. Del Monaco owns Nessun Dorma. But I prefer Lanza for Vesti La Giubba. Both great as is Gigli and Caruso. I don't think too highly of the new breed such as Pav, Domingo, Carreras...

  • @crapfacejoe I KIND OF LIKE PAVOROTTI IN THE MORE LYRIC ROLES BUT I FEEL AS U DO ABOUT THE OTHER 2. ENJOY

  • @crapfacejoe When you have learned to spell Pavarotti's name properly, and have learned the difference between "their" and "they're", I might give your views some credence.  Till then, keep trying.

  • @malthuswasright Pav is an abbreviation u dumb ass. Stick to the topic, I realize ur Pav's bum chum but try to give some valid comparisons of which arias Pav outduels the legends coz there really aren't any.

  • @crapfacejoe Shame you don't seem to be able to string a sentence together without being abusive... And I'm not particularly a Pavarotti fan. But he does get some right, and it's a shame also you don't seem to be able to acknowledge that.

  • @malthuswasright It's all in good spirit. And I do acknowledge he does get some right. But Pav fans seem to think opera begins and ends with him without knowledge of those who preceded him. I like to remind people of the forgotten tenors before the age of mass media. That's usually when the insults begin because they seem to think Pav is an opera God like Elvis or the Beatles were to Rock n Roll.

  • Not very subtle, but at least we are spared the too-much-sobbing. And the voice is magnificent. A little too slow for my taste though.

  • arguably the best ever. jussi biorgling de stefano caruso pavorotti all very comparable with each other. lanza not in this league. my opinion only.

  • Forse il più grande tenore di sempre... Che interpretazione...

  •  Il mio consiglio sentite per cortesia Franco Corelli

  • @ridvansadrhanov meglio del monaco

  • Interesting at 1:32 he does the glissando with the ccio of pagliaccio, i've only heard it with the pagLIA part...personally i think it's better the latter way you can really finish it off with conviction

  • @followthehatecrewild

    I noticed that too, and I agree with you.

  • Buona interpretazione, ma, a mio avviso, inferiore a quella di Caruso.

  • Yes, antmusic76, I think that is what music/opera is all about - one's emotional response and less the technique, although good technique certainly is a part of it. I also think Mario sang this absolutely brilliantly. My personal favorite for this aria is Caruso, but that doesn't invalidate your choice or that of others. - No reason to start long discussions or firefights as it's all a matter of opinion and preference.

  • Entrambi tenori, sia Gigli, sia Lanza lo rendono speciale. Sono tenori di fama mondiale. Gigli era un tenore di fama musicale. Ha cantato persino per Padre Pio (mamma). Lanza era un tenore di fama cinematografica. Lui ha cantato per la regina Elisabetta. Entrambi meritano 10 e lode.

  • johnmik67 : tra B. Gigli e M. Lanza non può esistere il benché minimo paragone. Uno è un tenore " reale," l'altro un personaggio del cinema. Credere nella grandezza di Lanza è come credere in una fiaba che di reale non ha proprio nulla. In ambito cinematografico ( dove è peraltro possibile ri-provare un brano più volte finché non viene eseguito del tutto correttamente ) chiunque ( o quasi ) potrebbe diventare un grande tenore. Gigli è stao UNICO, forse il più grande tenore di sempre.

  • Veramente, Mario Lanza non ha fatto una opera completa nella sua vita,soltanto filme e recitali

  • @31122051 Sorry to burst your bubble, but there's two live versions of Vesti La Giubba on youtube for Mario Lanza and they are much better than his recordings from the movies. Same with Una Furtiva Lagrima and others. Not to take anything away from Gigli, he sings this beautifully, but I'd have to give Lanza the edge.

  • Gran bella interpretazione, ineccepibile sotto tutti i punti di vista, ma, per i miei gusti, il verismo va interpretato con una voce più "decisa", più spinta,alla Pertile tanto per intenderci.

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  • Great performance !!

    Reading the discussions as to who made the greatest recorded version of this wonderful aria, I think is quite pointless. Fortunately most people have their own favorite(s) and that is just as it should be.

    For me personally (all my opinion with no intention of making anybody wrong) performances which touch me EMOTIONALLY are the ones which I consider the best. I don't care about technique or the quality of the recording.

  • I agree it's about how you personally connect with the singer emotionally. For me I always return to Mario Lanza.

  • Ma come cavolo si fa a tirare in ballo M. Lanza, tenoretto di cartapesta che ha cantanto solo nei film, quando si parla di un mostro sacro della lirica come B. Gigli ? ? ? ? ? Per non parlare poi di qualche incompetente ( che altrove aveva mosso critiche VERGOGNOSE contro C. Bergonzi, R. Tebaldi, L. Pavarotti ) che liquida con l'infelice e quantomai riduttiva espressione " ROBA VECCHIA " questo sacro capolavoro della lirica. Che gente che si trova in giro a volte !

  • mi sa che lo devi scrivere in inglese!

  • segu82 egli stesso un !!!

  • nice but .lanzas 1958 version is primo.his 1948 toronto concert version 2nd great caruso version 3rd enricocaruso 4th best version.then the rest.period

  • Espetacular!!!

  • Wonderful, Gigli is (was) great!

  • Whoa, who was it that said Bjorling's voice did not carry in the opera house? Bjorling was the master of the curtain call: with all the great tenors before and during his reign, people flocked to him. Among lyric/spinto tenors, his voice was very powerful, precise and resonant. Just read the reviews: he may have had some off nights when tired or ill, but no one got reviews like he did with weak repertory performances.

  • This is a marvelous lyric interpretation of an aria that ususally belongs to the spinto and dramatic tenors. Gigli, like DiStefano, did not like performing it often as it was injurious to their voices. But when they did, their lyric interpretations brought a sweetness of emotion, a delicacy that the bigger voice tenors could not. Compare this, and DiStefano, to Caruso and Placido Domingo's version: very different, and very wonderful.

  • A NOI!

  • Great voice. Beautiful timbre and superb rendition

  • the best of all

  • One of the best ever performances of Vesti la Giubba.

    He, of course, had the benefit of being able to listen to Caruso's 1907 version - the first recording to sell more than a million records...

  • bravo!!!!!!!!!!! simplement magnifique

  • Bjorlings voicesize is an issue everywhere. In 38-39 he was described (singing at Met) as a shining big voice etc. He had never as booming a voice as Tucker, but the 1st time he was critizised at Met in 41 as having a small voice he had a cold.

    My dad (91 soon) heard him 4 times, 1936 he had a ringing voice, but the last time he heard him 58/59 he sounded small and tired. Perhaps a bad day. He had for decades the record in curtain-calls at big Met. (With a voice that noone heard?)

  • mozzrt,

    like your comment, people who proclaim that Jussi Björling was "barely audible in the house" should realize they are misinformed or worse.

  • this is my favorite tenor for this piece. and caruso and pavarotti were magnificent too!!

  • bjoerling is second class to lanza, and kraus. both far superior to bjorling...

  • My father saw Gigli at the Hidden Gem in Manchester and raved about him I can

    see why cried myself.

  • Gigli is the only tenor who makes me want to cry.

  • All I can say is: Franco Corelli!

  • Absolutely!

  • Bjorling is so beautiful on recording. I love to watch MDM perform on video but I rarely just listen to him...and besides I can make Jussi big as MDM by twisting my volume knob. Two of my favorite tenors. Gigli, Lanza and Caruso also do this aria sublimely.

  • Bjorling is second class when compared to Gigli, Caruso and Lanza.

  • You might have a point with Caruso, even money with Gigli but no way in hell is Bjoerling second class to Lanza.

  • Primobaritono, there are obviously very strong partisans for each of these tenors--Caruso, Gigli, Bjorling, and Lanza. I would say the Lanza fans are almost equal to the Callas fans in their ferocity. I think in the case of Callas, however, there is much more justification. For me, Caruso is the greatest for this aria and many others, but not all. I agree that Bjorling and Gigli are, all in all, approximately at the same level, and that Lanza is not really in their league. Now, I'll take cover!

  • @primobaritono77 Lanza is the best of them. An operatic tenor with the greatest natural voice, just never made a career out of opera. That's why dumb asses like u try to put him down. But doesn't change the fact that he could perform this aria and every other one at a higher level than any other tenor.

  • @crapfacejoe: Actually, Lanza's voice was a bit thin. He was very good, but not great. Caruso, Gigli, Bjorling, DelMonaco, Corelli, were among the great tenors. I can name a few more, but they'll do.

  • @wiseroldfart Lanza`s voice was not thin at all. Rosati (the teacher og Gigli), sayd he had to wait for 30 years in orden to find a so perfekt placed and naturally strong spinto voice. Gedda said he never hesrd a better voice, and many others. I don`t know he he was the best, but certanly among the monsters.

  • @wiseroldfart why tenors always need a big voice.. light lyrical voice tenors are also great and beautiful, like schipa. btw lanza had not a thin voice, and especially not at an older age.

  • @primobaritono77 Bjorling sucked, and he was third class to Lanza.

  • @crapfacejoe Chop your ears off for saying that: Bjorling was the man!

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  • @Fanucci34 absolutely !!!

  • That's true if you remove Lanza from that list.

  • With my comment, I meant not Gigli, I meant MDM.

    I love Gigli and Bjoerling, MDM... my laryx swells listening to it. xD

    =)

  • Why is it that I can't find to love Gigli?

  • DIOS

  • BRAVO!!!, que buena versión con tan buen sonido, gracias por este vídeo. Lastima algunos ridículos comentarios ignorantes, comparativos sin sentido, habría que borrarlos.

  • Probably the best recorded.

  • the best version of this aria is from di steffano the guy had the perfect voice for this aria

  • I have always liked lanzas version of this aria, although gigli,s version is also brilliant i still prefer lanza,s.

  • GERMAN OPERA SINGER YOU WRONG lanza never was a spinto tenor he was totally lyrical gigli was a spinto tenor

  • hmm, considering all the thumbs down you're getting.. I think you're likely wrong.

  • Good recording. Sung perfectly. Listening to Gigli is soooo therapeutic for the voice...

    My fave though it del Monaco, good lord that performance makes your skin crawl...

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  • Honestly, my favorite (aside from Caruso) is Mario Del Monaco.

  • Who can argue? :) Del Monaco is a great tenor, and frankly one of the most under-rated technician of all time.

  • He was a technician, he figured out a great way to sing WRONG.

  • And is that why he lasted so long?

  • Also, Jussi Bjorling is there with Del Monaco.

  • As is Corelli and Tucker...you are correct...the Bjorling voice sounded spinto on recordings but was barely audible in the house.

  • Tell us, please, were you there?Sometimes you are just unbelievable, come to think of your "Best tenor B flat", for instance.

  • Tell us please were you thereeeee??? How old are you? I am speaking of firsthand accounts to say that once the brass section opened up Bjorling was promptly drowned out. He's a great voice and one of my favorite singers. So don't get all hostile on me. Look at who replied to a 10 month old comment, please find something else to do have a nice day sir or madam.

  • Answer: Old enough to have listened to Jussi Björling live, admittedly not in an opera-house, only outdoors. Still, "barely audible in the house" ...? If that would be the case, how come he was constantly in demand at The Met, La Scala, Covent Garden etc. etc.?

    Next subject: If you could only reply to current threads, have you thought about how long it would take you every day just to scan all topics of interest?

    Have a good day!

  • He was constantly on demand because he could sell tickets. Most people came to SEE Bjorling, not to hear Bjorling. When you listen to Bjorling on recordings, you hear (along with maybe Wunderlich) the greatest lyric tenor voice EVER. Bjorling's voice is loved by many, including me. But my grandfather heard him live, and he said it was a disappointment. Yet Bjorling is still one of his 3 favorite tenors. The voice had projection and could be heard, but once the orchestra opened up he was gone.

  • To answer your second question, when someone replies in a hostile manner to a comment I wrote almost a year ago, I can think of no other motive than that of you trying to start an argument. I hope you aren't, because if you are, I advise you to go waste your time with someone else. I love listening to Jussi Bjorling and I have many of his records, so does my grandfather who adores his voice. I am just not a Bjorling fanatic like you who thinks he is the end all tenor. Admit it, you are.

  • GermanOperaSinger,

    It may come as a shock, but I like to listen to other tenors, too. Favourites are Beniamno Gigli, Enrico Cruso, Giuseppe Di Stefano (young), Feruccio Tagliavini, Mario Lanza, Luciano Pavarotti, Fritz Wunderlich, Nicolai Gedda and Tito Schipa, pretty much in that order.

  • I can agree more!!!

    And to add something to your comment is just a little unfair that kind of compairson because the records quality untill late ´20´s early ´30´s were terrible and you have just to "imagine" the "real" voice for Caruso (in example) even in remastered midias and there are a lot of "mitical" singers after the record era.

  • Most people came to SEE Björling??? Why, nobody ever thought Jussi Björling was the greatest actor on the opera stage. Is there a hint I can´t or don´t want to understand?

  • Bjorling had a much much better technique than MDM.

  • Absolutely: I have, since the time of that posting (about 3 months ago) changed my tastes. Bjorling is one of my absolute favorites, though it's fun to listen to MDM (because he always ignores dynamic markings).

  • MDM never had a pianissimo.

  • My favorite is by Franco Corelli, great to listen to.

  • This is marvelous, but my favorite performance of this "most recognizable" aria belongs to Richard Tucker.

  • Gigli will remain as a greatest tenor for all seasons-legend.

  • In my opinion, Gigli is better than Pavarotti...

  • well, duh!

  • @kololando te credo

  • I never listen one greatest stupidity!!To compare Gigli vs.Lanza is like Hercules vs.Pinocchio!! But if you are americans...better go to Broadway!!

  • You know I am getting sick and tired of the slurs against "Americans" on YouTube Who invented YOUTUBE anyway where you can spew your racism !!! . We have produced and will continue to produce some of the finest opera singers the world knows. Keep your racism and your arrogance to yourself! However, I agree with you about comparing Lanza to Gigli. There may be hope for you still.

  • @2ManyHighCs

    Youtube was invented by an American, a German and a Taiwanese guy btw.. Typical americans autoclaim everything^^.

  • @darkkeijp: We invented an amazing amount of what you see and use today, including that "flash in the pan" called the Internet. What we didn't invent, we found ingenious ways to vastly improve. If not for us, you'd be speaking German (if your grandparents survived Hitler's army), bowing to a ruthless dictator, and your access to the world would be considerably limited. Then again, your ignorance may be your bliss. Sorry for attempting to educate you! Thank America for saving your grandparents!

  • @2ManyHighCs

    Youtube was invented by an American, a German and a Taiwanese guy btw.. Typical americans autoclaim everything^^. And you can hardly say America produced Lanza, his parents were Italian. if anything America kept him from becomming the best opera singer of all time.

  • @darkkeijp: That's nonsense! Lanza's somewhat thin voice was the culprit. He was no Gigli, Bjorling, or Caruso. He tried to imitate Caruso in "The Great Caruso" and fell way short in that role, singing included, despite what the idiotic critics said. If you listen to a dozen or so Caruso recordings, you'll hopefully see what I mean. Bjorling, too.

    I'm assuming your life is much more rewarding than mine since I'm a USA citizen. People aren't exactly fleeing America because life is so tough here.

  • I agree with oratorioo, to me Lanzas' version is the best. As for people talking about the "King of the high C's", listen to Lanzas' "Nessun Dorma" or Vesti La Giubba. I guess it just comes down to personal favorites.

  • I know you love Lanza (and you know I am not a Lanza fan), but do you believe Lanza's version of this particular aria is even better than Caruso's?

  • Let's say you hear your dad or mom singing in the shower...in your ears it may sound like the most beautiful sound you had ever heard, but, to other peoples ears, obviously it's not very good. To me, Lanza was the best, maybe not in reality, but, in MY ears he was.

  • In response to Meltzerboy, when it comes to Caruso, the only way I can hear his voice is through youtube, and, to me, he doesn't sound that good. Maybe because of such early recordings are just so inferior to recordings nowadays. Nothing against any other singers, I'm just partial to Lanza.

  • It does take some practice and experience listening to old acoustic recordings, and not only Caruso. If you make the effort, there are rich rewards awaiting you

  • @barryoderfer When interviewed or written about,many celebrated tenors Defer to Caruso only,intimating or stating that he was the best tenor.Del Monaco,Lauri Volpi,Corelli to name a few.These are tenors with pretty big Egos,so I believe the deferrals did not come easy.Although I think Caruso was the best, I enjoy DelMonaco Corelli DiStefano & Lanza more so than Caruso,possibly because of the inferior recording tech.as you say.Maybe the modern day tenors shud have recorded with Caruso'sTECH cont

  • @barryoderfer I don't think that will ever happen, for that would possibly diminish the popularity and artistry of the modern day tenors.Can you imagine Domingo or Pavarotti using Caruso's recording technolgy on an experimental basis? They would have nothing to gain & everthing to lose.Especially Domingo, where everything he did in the studios for the last 20 years was enhanced for marketing reasons.Martinelli had the CarusoSIREN&imitatedEC's vocal line when he 1st started singing. Enjoy

  • Good Voice.. Bjorling, Carruso and Paoli are my favs.

  • Boy what a singer!

  • I'll disapoint oratorrio; Lanza sings for public a good exhibition, but Gigli is an angel who give his voice and soul to God!

  • @gagga96 no my dear... Gigli had a monstrous technique and Lanza a normal techinique! this is the very point :)

  • Whenever he was told he is said to be "Caruso Secondo", he used to answer "I prefer being Gigli Primo"!! Great artist and great man!

  • Gigli gives me shivers when listening to him.

    Absolutely a unique tenor, full of passion heard in his voice no matter what he sang.

    He feels every word he sings. He could sing anything and greatly loved by his public who will never forget him. Listen to "Non Ti Scordar di Me" Gigli sings it with feeling

    and passion beyond what could be put into words.

  • totalmente de acuerdo, me arranca làgrimas su voz!! y por esò es ùnico

  • Sorry for my ignorance but From which decade is this tenor? Since I've discovered Youtube I like comparing songs covers and arias by different singers or tenors like this one...Can anyone tell me something about this tenor? :-)

  • 20s, 30s, and early 40s.

  • was caruso's heir apparent at the MET, but left for italy in the 30s because of great depression in US. became mussolini's favorite. career suffered because of ties to mussolini's regime.

  • Don't be ridiculous. As if anyone really gave a shit what his political views were and that Mussolini was a fan. By 1945 it was forgotten, and personally I'm happy to know he was a right winger.

  • The political argument I will leave to others. I did read that Gigli refused to take a cut in his salary at the Met during the Depression. What I wish to mention is that although Gigli was engaged in 1921 after Caruso's death, perhaps he was not the heir apparent of Caruso since Gigli was more of a lyric tenor than spinto. That is, Martinelli--whose voice type was closer to the middle-late Caruso's-- may have inherited more of Caruso's repertory and thus was the true heir apparent of Caruso.

  • On Nov. 30th was the 50th year since the passing of Beniamino Gigli the greatest and most popular tenor of the 20th century.

  • as i mourn luciano this s a reminder of others who were just as great if not better thanks for posting this ciao

  • da brividi...

  • they are all good but noone sings better than lanza

  • viva gigli !!!!!!!!!!

  • This tenor was very close to being the greatest of all lyric tenors..he surely ranks with caruso...one is 1st one is 2nd...bjorling can never ever being this race as well as pavarotten,he and bjorling had common tenor voices..and thats all you'd get out of them....bergonzi was better than pavarotti and bjorling

  • If you think Björling has a 'common' voice you could just as well go listen to complete amateurs. If you have such a lousy ear, it'll make no difference.

    He's not even my favourite, and despite that I could never confuse his voice with anyone elses.

  • Amen to everything you said Mactopolis. I couldn't agree with you more. Caruso 1, Gigli 2

  • Bjorling probably had the most focused tenor voice in history.

  • Him/Gigli/Kraus. idk, maybe even Pavs.

  • He ranks with Caruso and Bjoerling as the very best!

  • the best liric of world

  • This is the best Vesti la Giubba ever. By far....

  • the best tenor

  • Isn't this Version of Vesti La Giubba from the 'XM' Commercial?... I Know Pavarotti's the original Singer but..this version is in the XM Commercial Right?..

  • ...fantastico....

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