As much as students screw around and don't do/try on assignments, there are MANY teachers that do not do/try to teach. There are also many students, such as myself, that are stuck with some of these teachers and are in danger of failing their class. I have A's and B's in all of my classes and a flat F in Biology. Why? Because my teacher won't teach me. She expects homework to teach me how to understand Biology. If homework taught students, why do we have teachers? Will someone please explain?
when i'm done with college.... I'm going to be exactly like this professor lol hell I'm a student and i hate lazy ass kids like this learn to actually do your work and grow up
teachers are lazy assholes we are paying and THEY are gettign paid i beleive they should helpus out even if its the last day lazy bastards!!!-student 3.2 gpa
I'm sure you have a 3.2 because teachers don't want to hear your complaints. Honestly if you were in my class I fail you in a heart beat as it's obvious you have no work ethic. Oh and we "lazy assholes" are lazy UNDERPAID assholes. I don't get paid enough to put up with shit from kids like you.
@simon831ene it's actually the exact opposite. Teachers are a necessity. They should be getting paid at least as much as nurses, if not doctors. People like football and basketball players are the ones who should be getting paid 33k a year.
@aylc94 Thanks for this repentant attitude! With that approach, I would probably work it out somehow, though I do worry that we teachers, due to public pressure, give far too many chances and are not teaching responsible behaviors. Aargh! There are so many roles to play!
Late passes? Revise for a better grade? Wow, I wish I was allowed these things.
I've had a lot of professors treat me like I'm a student like this any time I'm late with anything even once. I have a 3.4 GPA. I'm not.
Do students use any amount of these excuses? Totally, seen it myself. And yet, this entire video makes me think "straw man argument." An excuse to ignore sometimes legitimate concerns by saying "Oh, one of THOSE students."
my teach made the cvlass watch this video and i know why but theres one thing some teachers dont get you can do all your work and try your hardest on test and still get a mediocore grade as a matter of fact some teachers will acuse you of doing nohing or coming for help when you have and youlget the worst grade you feel you dont deserve most teachers these days wont even stay after and its not their fault they have meetings and everything the video is very accurate though students will do this
I'm a student and I find this hilarious. I personally think that most students should GET THIS you don't need to be a teacher to laugh at this. Fact is any human being who utterly does nothing then expects good things to happen are sorta silly. "Well...I'll get that job even if I don't work" Is sorta the vibe you get from this. So I don't see why any students would be offended. Yeah there's A LOT of crappy teachers but there's also crappy students and the teachers have to deal with A LOT of us.
From a teacher that mostly works with middle school: trust me, this 'do nothing and expect to be handed a passing grade' attitude starts long before college.
This situation is so true, the students worry about the grade the last minute, do not take the initiative to improve the grades, do not complete the assignments and then expect to improve get a better grade. Threaten the teacher about writing a bad teacher assessment. They expect a handout without any effort on their part.
Are you guys seriously fighting over whether or not a D is passing? Here, think about this. Some schools make it so that a D is passing and others make it so its a fail. The grading system depends on both the school and country you live in. My college doesn't even have that system as we just use the 4.0 scale. It doesn't matter what the grade is, the point is the message of the video, where a student is too lazy and spites the teacher because he was being fair.
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"Fuck off, I don't have time to teach you. I'm busy doing everything in my job which is extraneous to teaching, because that's more important in my opinion because I'm riddled with retardery".
@Feallocks did you actually LISTEN to this??? Your response is completely off the wall and has little or nothing to do with the video. Go back and watch it again and actually listen this time!
I had a student in the spring semester who showed up for the first 2 days of class and I never saw him again. I tried repeatedly to get in touch with him. He never dropped. In the middle of the summer, I received an email explaining that he had all kinds of problems and could not make it to class because he would have had to take the bus. I am NOT kidding. Now he wanted a chance to do all the work and would I change his grade. Nope. F stands.
I don't understand. This is actually breaking my heart. I do think the student portrayed in this video DOES definitely exist. Far too often, in fact. But it seems like all teachers/instructors/professors/doctors, etc. (whatever your ego requires you to be called) have dismissed that you were once students as well. Even if you got an A, you should still have the opportunity to rate a teacher than did not make themselves available to help you if you DID struggle at some point.
@jenniferkeyfrahm I don't believe that this b.s. excuse business is cool, which is why I found this humorous. But teachers on here ganging up on students is just pathetic. We are not ALL like that. Take it for what it is and laugh it off. If all students were like that, then you were once, too. And if that's how teachers judge us, how can we respect or even learn from them? What do you want? Only A & B students to rate? Lower grades aren't allowed?
@jenniferkeyfrahm I have a host of family members who are high school teachers, and they have all dealt with their fair share of students who have a work ethic (or lack thereof) very similar to the character in this video. Nowhere in this video did it say that every student was like that, so that claim has no merit to begin with. It is required that teachers give equal access and treatment to their students, regardless of the average they carry. It is disingenuous to assume otherwise.
@11Bomber29 Probably 70% of my friends became teachers so I know that this is pretty common. I am upset by teachers writing on here that student evaluations should be abolished. A habitual flunkie is not going to have power over a teacher, so what are they afraid of? I once failed a class because after all A's and B's on papers, I wrote one on atheism. My Christian teacher gave me an F on that and all papers that followed. We didn't get reviews then. Everyone deserves a voice.
@jenniferkeyfrahm The point that the teachers are indirectly making is that the ISD leadership and the state only look at the numbers. If 4 out of 5 students rate the teacher as a 100, yet one of the bad students rates the teacher a zero, that puts the teacher's rating at an 80. If you teach in a school with knuckleheads in ample numbers, your rating can be in the crapper even when you've done everything you can. The reviewers don't know the details of the 'poor' students' motivations.
@jenniferkeyfrahm However, a lot of the time, students use the evaluations as a weapon against the teacher who isn't their "best friend." Once, a group of students collaborated to give one teacher a bad evaluation so she/he would get fired because he/she was a hard-ass. But, naturally, the one who WAS their best friend, got marvelous evaluations.
@jenniferkeyfrahm "But it seems like all teachers […] have dismissed that you were once students as well." No we haven't. In fact most of us spent MORE of our lives as students than non-teachers do. We also see dedicated, hard-working students of various skill levels/learning abilities every day. That's why we get so frustrated whenever we encounter a student who believes they deserve a passing grade regardless of how little effort they actually put into the class.
The message this video is trying to convey is universally true, sadly, but I think it would be more effective without those computer-like voices...creepy.
@jenniferkeyfrahm Most students know approximately what grade they're getting even before the final exam. That's why they grovel at the last second, as depicted in the video. Many students, especially freshmen who still have their high school mentality, are upset when they discover that they actually have to follow the rules and earn their grades. They try to weasel like they did in high school and get mad when something that has worked for 4 years suddenly fails.
@elliedale9 I'm not sure why people are acting like I condone this kind of student behavior. I didn't do it in high school and certainly not in college. But to defend the idea of students being unable to rate their teachers? What is this? Penn State? If you are decent teachers, it will take more than an angry flunkies complaints to end your jobs.
@elliedale9 I gave my teacher a halfway decent review (said he was very available and interested in helping us but his syllabus that he changed 3 times during the course was very disorganized.) And yes, you are correct. I thought I knew what I was getting in the course. I thought I was getting a D. I got a B. Anonymous rating system.... Hmmmm....
I loved this video!! What made it more hilarious was the fact that there are actual students like this in the world today. The professor made himself available throughout the semester, but the student did nothing. All of a sudden he's worried about his grade... Tough crap! It's his fault & no one else's. LMAO
I just finished an evening class that I nearly failed due to absences even though my grades were consistently excellent, as in 98% on papers because she had to nitpick me out of a few points so I'd never get 100%. I called her, emailed her, met her in person, and whatnot to let her know that I would either be absent, have a paper to turn in, or simply have a question. I did everything except attend class... Luckily we sat down and discussed it, I gave no excuses, and she let me stay and pass.
@beatsiz Was the course heavily discussion-based? Were there lots of in-class activities, writing prompts, group activities, etc? If so, that's probably why attendance is required. A lot of profs don't grade those things, but you're not doing the same amount of work as other students if you aren't in class to do them. Learning happens in other ways than just through homework, exams, & papers, and profs need a mechanism to ensure that students participate in those other types of learning, too.
@signejorgenson Not heavily, but quite involved with in-class activities as well as group activities. However, I do respect the professor. I am friends with her. I shook her hand, thanked her for everything, and talked for a while after I took my exam. But in the end I guess it's simply maintaining a level of respect for whatever rules there may be, wether I agree or disagree with them. In the end I still think that if I'm acing a class without attending, that I shouldn't have to fail it...
I literally had to clarify in the syllabus that just because a student gives a "reason" why they didn't do their work (aka their "excuse") does not mean that they are excused. To them the excuse = being excused.
Dear Aircheekz: The word is "probably." And, yes, things happen, and most profs are pretty understanding about the *occasional* problem. If you listen, you will hear that the issue here is a student who thinks he is ENTITLED to a grade just for existing in the universe and doing crap work. Grown-up level work is HARD, it's always been hard, and NO we did not get into Ph.D. programs with D's. And to those who did not like this video: If this OFFENDS you, YOU may be the problem.
Dear Michelle: im not offended. im also not slow, i understand the moral of the video. unfortunately my youtube held my comment to a certain amount of letters so i couldnt really make my point. i meant times have change and professors should try changing with the time sin some situations. im not saying school work was ez back then, im just saying that expectations for newer generations are higher then they were in the past (ex. u could pass classes with D back in da day).
i was mainly referring to the professors who claim they will hold a hard working student back becuz of a few measly pnts. its just not neccasary. good test grades dont mean you are smart or brighter (and in many cases even studying harder). students cheat all the time & the brightest students are usually C or B students. & consider this: this year my exercise nutrition professor said back when he was taking anatomy classes, he admitted that there was far less material to know and it was easier.
@Aircheekz What the? I was one of the brightest students in my program and I received the grade of.. hmm.. A. I don't think anyone thought that the "C" students were the brightest. Sorry, that's just not how it works. Put in the effort and you'll get the grade you deserve. I'm a teacher/assistant professor and I assure you of this!
of course what i said isnt always the case... the point i was trying to make is that grades arent a direct indication of intelligence... just means ur prolly better at studyin then others... idc how many A's somebody made in there lifetime doesnt really mean your the smartest. for all i know theyve been cheating in school the whole time (not referring to you just speaking in general). research shows that c students are usually just lazy but just as bright as A & B students in some cases.
@Vegerunks123 lol not true... both of my parents & other profs have told me this before... go do your own research if you dont believe me... fyi my parents 60+ years of age so im sure they know what there talking about! im not sure how long of a time period it was were Ds where acceptable, could just been for a few years
@Vegerunks123 ur moms only 50.... like i just said both my parents r over 60. its possible that the change was made shortly after they finished school. when my parents where in college ur mom was still in wut?... like elementary or middle school. she might not have even been aware of it herself.
@Aircheekz thats why I said over 30 years ago... Besides it doesn't matter if students are expected to do better now a days or not, half the time if you get a D you don't deserve passing any how. The "professor" in this video stated everything that student did wrong and how he could have passed the class. If a student at least does the work half the time they'll finish the class with AT LEAST a C. If they last minute the work, or don't do it at all they'll be lucky to pass.
@Vegerunks123 I'm a new teacher. I just finished teaching my first semester of Biology 100 at a technical college. I had 48 students in my class at the start of the semester. 4 dropped the class because they were failing or for personal reasons mostly because of missed work. Of the remaining 44 students three outright failed the class with an F for a grade. Those that had an F DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO TAKE THE FINAL. If they had, they likely would have passed the class. Data to support your words.
Oh my gosh! I love this!!! Do students really do this? I'm sure they do, but that is terrible!!! Every student should watch this before taking a college course.
Can you please caption this!!! I would love to share this with my students, but they are hard of hearing and deaf. I would love to share this with them.
of course as a student it is our job to hold up our end (study do the work), but every now & then hard working individuals come up short (just like good teachers sometimes get bad evals). it doesnt mean we've been slacking off. external factors always play apart! (ex: death, trauma, family issues). just think as students we face the judgement of a prof who went to school DECADES ago; the professor grading you prolly passed their classes with D's which where exceptable at one point in college.
@SivartAuhsoj YES. I just got got out of school four years ago, and 75% of my teaching load (full-time, tenure track) is comprised of remedial-level and introductory-level comp courses in a tenure-track position.
sorry but i wasnt referring to entry lvl professors. i understand there still young ppl. in fact they never are a problem and are always more helpful then older professors who are stuck in their same stubborn ways.
I've been though this conversation any number of times... I'm still waiting for one student that instead of saying "It's the end of the semester, and I'm worried about my grade," will say "It's the end of the semester, and I'm worried that I have only a limited understanding of the material for this course."
I hate it when all people focus about is the grade that they get at the end of the semester. If you're not learning anything, and you're not even mildly interested in the topic which the class is based on, you're definitely not in the right place, and should probably transfer to a different subject, NOT seek extra credit and corrections a day before the semester ends.
@toasteeze Are you kidding me? MANY of my students sounds exactly like this! Some of them add tears, and others add insults. The general mentality is the same.
@drearyvintage42 i meant if ONE student had said everything this "kid" in the video said. didnt do homework, didnt revise papers, missed classes, asked for extra credit for not missing more than the max amount, etc.
@learn54 Oddly enough, this is actually the mentality of many many international students who study here. Particularly from some of the wealthier nations.
I know it's probably not fair to generalize/mock undergraduate students in a caricature like this, but it is *so true.* Thanks for the awesome course reviews, you slackers.
This reminds me of conversations I have had with my middle school students and their parents. How sad that this behavior continues when they are adults in college.
@sekingb I think that's quite a hefty generalization. They don't usually have that large of an impact on what a teacher does unless all of the the students' evaluations address a similar issue. The teachers also get feedback on how their doing from the people they're teaching and unless an entire class is out to get them or they are just an ineffective professor, they're not going to receive unanimously negative reviews. The professors are working for the students. Most professors will agree.
@cjjj777 They are irrelevant if you are part of the intrenched group of faculty...they only count if they are trying to get you out or undermine your tenure...otherwise no one cares. They are used purely punitively.
@sekingb I don't think they should abolish student evaluations. I just started a new college as a Junior after my 2-year. Evaluations are REQUIRED or they do not release your grade. Not a bad idea. You can't say a student avenged his/her bad grade on their evaluations if they couldn't see their grade until they'd completed it.
I don't think student evaluations should be abolished either but your logic is flawed.
Evaluations are conducted toward the end of the semester usually after the third test which means some students that failed all 3 or 2 out of 3 already know they will fail the course when doing the evaluations.
@sekingb If I had known they were required at my new school, I wouldn't have had the extra 5 days of panic waiting for my grades. It forced me to be honest about a terrible teacher that apparently gave me a B. While stoked for passing, it doesn't change how he taught. I think holding the grades gives it a chance for more honesty/accuracy, though it's incredibly weird.
im gonna write a review wtf
puccalovesjoeboe1 17 hours ago
LMAO! This is great!
Byzantea 1 day ago
ROTFL
flyingbiscuit23 1 week ago
As much as students screw around and don't do/try on assignments, there are MANY teachers that do not do/try to teach. There are also many students, such as myself, that are stuck with some of these teachers and are in danger of failing their class. I have A's and B's in all of my classes and a flat F in Biology. Why? Because my teacher won't teach me. She expects homework to teach me how to understand Biology. If homework taught students, why do we have teachers? Will someone please explain?
Hrafnvir 1 week ago
Funny & true !!!!!
Greg763 1 week ago
Ah, but if you don't pass the kid, then you're a "failing" teacher.
Love this! Really spot-on. Please check out my video if you like these Xtranormal parodies.
earreverenttube 1 week ago
My high school World Geography showed us this a few weeks ago.
FunUsernamesAreGone 2 weeks ago
Ohhh man. *weeps*
TheNinthDoctor 3 weeks ago
My lanuage arts teacher and my history teacher showed us this today.
peacemaker12322 3 weeks ago
My Math teacher showed us this
10803910girl 3 weeks ago
my AVID teacher showed this to us we laughed really hard about how the teaches is terrible xD
jorge17720 3 weeks ago
My french teacher showed us this the entire class laughed :D
PHiLLUPSUXX 3 weeks ago
my life story
DrummaBoy202 4 weeks ago
XDDD my stapler ran out of staples? I'm sure you're professors gonna buy that one.
larhonda41 1 month ago
MY STAPLER RAN OUT OF STAPLES!!!!! LMAO!!!!!
trackattik 1 month ago
when i'm done with college.... I'm going to be exactly like this professor lol hell I'm a student and i hate lazy ass kids like this learn to actually do your work and grow up
Chickpreacherfails 1 month ago
teachers are lazy assholes we are paying and THEY are gettign paid i beleive they should helpus out even if its the last day lazy bastards!!!-student 3.2 gpa
simon831ene 1 month ago
@simon831ene Really?? You sound like a moron, and you write like one too.
margan59 1 month ago
@simon831ene
I'm sure you have a 3.2 because teachers don't want to hear your complaints. Honestly if you were in my class I fail you in a heart beat as it's obvious you have no work ethic. Oh and we "lazy assholes" are lazy UNDERPAID assholes. I don't get paid enough to put up with shit from kids like you.
larhonda41 1 month ago
@simon831ene Hopefully someone gives you some help with your grammar and punctuation.
Lewey8705 3 weeks ago
@simon831ene it's actually the exact opposite. Teachers are a necessity. They should be getting paid at least as much as nurses, if not doctors. People like football and basketball players are the ones who should be getting paid 33k a year.
kenyonator1 2 weeks ago 4
this is painful to watch, that guy really has a thick face there
Sujro 1 month ago
lol
scorpiowelch 1 month ago
I feel like a scumbag now - student
aylc94 1 month ago 3
@aylc94 Thanks for this repentant attitude! With that approach, I would probably work it out somehow, though I do worry that we teachers, due to public pressure, give far too many chances and are not teaching responsible behaviors. Aargh! There are so many roles to play!
Integrity33 3 weeks ago
Thumbs up if you're worried about your grade~!!
TheMusicalAlien 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
Maybe if they used actual voices on this video then it wouldn't drive me nuts to try and sit through all four minutes of this..................
Sbreland18 1 month ago
lmfao
MikeGuitarPlayer07 1 month ago
MY history teacher showed the class this video,Hilarious!! First day of spring semester class went very well.
aamaayzing 1 month ago 2
all teachers need to show their student this video at the start of class! fabulous
misspugsley41216 1 month ago
I failed calculus. I am worried about my grade.
PashaandDrosha 1 month ago
Too funny!!!
MissMeekah 1 month ago
25 people are worried about their grade.
HiMyNameIsMandStuff 1 month ago
I was one of these people in high school and I can laugh at this. I was such an idiot.
torandicus 1 month ago
lol!
hediyah 1 month ago
they showed us this in Religion class - ya gotta love Catholic school hahaha :P
aepnlexi1319 1 month ago
Its funny how this video is completely true. I've seen something like this happen first hand.
18cloy 1 month ago
"My stapler ran out of staples. Am I passing your class?"
Best line.
DarthWobbey 1 month ago 2
Late passes? Revise for a better grade? Wow, I wish I was allowed these things.
I've had a lot of professors treat me like I'm a student like this any time I'm late with anything even once. I have a 3.4 GPA. I'm not.
Do students use any amount of these excuses? Totally, seen it myself. And yet, this entire video makes me think "straw man argument." An excuse to ignore sometimes legitimate concerns by saying "Oh, one of THOSE students."
SXtheKitsune 1 month ago
my teach made the cvlass watch this video and i know why but theres one thing some teachers dont get you can do all your work and try your hardest on test and still get a mediocore grade as a matter of fact some teachers will acuse you of doing nohing or coming for help when you have and youlget the worst grade you feel you dont deserve most teachers these days wont even stay after and its not their fault they have meetings and everything the video is very accurate though students will do this
abiola100000 1 month ago
I watch this video every morning. Cannot get enough of this
FebruaryFerni 1 month ago
I'm a student and I find this hilarious. I personally think that most students should GET THIS you don't need to be a teacher to laugh at this. Fact is any human being who utterly does nothing then expects good things to happen are sorta silly. "Well...I'll get that job even if I don't work" Is sorta the vibe you get from this. So I don't see why any students would be offended. Yeah there's A LOT of crappy teachers but there's also crappy students and the teachers have to deal with A LOT of us.
MonakoSM 1 month ago
i think its hilarious
laurethmay 1 month ago
i know alot of people who do this :D thanks for uploding this!
littlemisswrite24 1 month ago
25 students didn't get a passing grade.
erickemilio456 1 month ago 2
@erickemilio456 25 students didnt have a chance in hell Bahahahah .... teacher said that not me!
Rozy2987 1 month ago
If only my teachers were like that.
mnk1090 1 month ago
From a teacher that mostly works with middle school: trust me, this 'do nothing and expect to be handed a passing grade' attitude starts long before college.
mcarnagua 1 month ago 18
@mcarnagua These kids don't realize how important these grades are though. This coming from one.
Raveman01 1 month ago
1:03, i felt bad for the guy, he didnt understand some of the homework :(
naggydoomsp 1 month ago
FUNNY LOL hahahahaha!!!!!
shannonmoser23 1 month ago
This situation is so true, the students worry about the grade the last minute, do not take the initiative to improve the grades, do not complete the assignments and then expect to improve get a better grade. Threaten the teacher about writing a bad teacher assessment. They expect a handout without any effort on their part.
rayaru1 1 month ago
I passed this my son -- so he can pass it to his friends on facebook........smiling
smilestreasures 2 months ago
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I was a teacher, this conversation sounds 100% accurate, the dialogue just needs to sound like a whiny girl instead of the clock style.
Windtell31 2 months ago
I was a teacher, this conversation sounds 100% accurate, the dialogue just needs to sound like a whiny girl instead of the clock style.
Windtell31 2 months ago
Are you guys seriously fighting over whether or not a D is passing? Here, think about this. Some schools make it so that a D is passing and others make it so its a fail. The grading system depends on both the school and country you live in. My college doesn't even have that system as we just use the 4.0 scale. It doesn't matter what the grade is, the point is the message of the video, where a student is too lazy and spites the teacher because he was being fair.
Russianbluez 2 months ago
College in 5 minutes.
StormofBladeZ 2 months ago
Love! Love! Love! 1000 times LOVE! I have this conversation with a student nearly every day!
KVChemistry 2 months ago 2
@Feallocks you are the model for the student in this video
ewayneross 2 months ago
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"Fuck off, I don't have time to teach you. I'm busy doing everything in my job which is extraneous to teaching, because that's more important in my opinion because I'm riddled with retardery".
Feallocks 2 months ago
@Feallocks did you actually LISTEN to this??? Your response is completely off the wall and has little or nothing to do with the video. Go back and watch it again and actually listen this time!
knerol 2 months ago
michelle8ification, you have nailed it, college attendance has become an ENTITLEMENT . lol
GhassanKaram 2 months ago
I had a student in the spring semester who showed up for the first 2 days of class and I never saw him again. I tried repeatedly to get in touch with him. He never dropped. In the middle of the summer, I received an email explaining that he had all kinds of problems and could not make it to class because he would have had to take the bus. I am NOT kidding. Now he wanted a chance to do all the work and would I change his grade. Nope. F stands.
christinielsen 2 months ago 4
@christinielsen LOL wow, that's pathetic.
TesticularRainbows 2 months ago
I don't understand. This is actually breaking my heart. I do think the student portrayed in this video DOES definitely exist. Far too often, in fact. But it seems like all teachers/instructors/professors/doctors, etc. (whatever your ego requires you to be called) have dismissed that you were once students as well. Even if you got an A, you should still have the opportunity to rate a teacher than did not make themselves available to help you if you DID struggle at some point.
jenniferkeyfrahm 2 months ago
@jenniferkeyfrahm I don't believe that this b.s. excuse business is cool, which is why I found this humorous. But teachers on here ganging up on students is just pathetic. We are not ALL like that. Take it for what it is and laugh it off. If all students were like that, then you were once, too. And if that's how teachers judge us, how can we respect or even learn from them? What do you want? Only A & B students to rate? Lower grades aren't allowed?
jenniferkeyfrahm 2 months ago
@jenniferkeyfrahm I have a host of family members who are high school teachers, and they have all dealt with their fair share of students who have a work ethic (or lack thereof) very similar to the character in this video. Nowhere in this video did it say that every student was like that, so that claim has no merit to begin with. It is required that teachers give equal access and treatment to their students, regardless of the average they carry. It is disingenuous to assume otherwise.
11Bomber29 2 months ago
@11Bomber29 Probably 70% of my friends became teachers so I know that this is pretty common. I am upset by teachers writing on here that student evaluations should be abolished. A habitual flunkie is not going to have power over a teacher, so what are they afraid of? I once failed a class because after all A's and B's on papers, I wrote one on atheism. My Christian teacher gave me an F on that and all papers that followed. We didn't get reviews then. Everyone deserves a voice.
jenniferkeyfrahm 2 months ago
@jenniferkeyfrahm The point that the teachers are indirectly making is that the ISD leadership and the state only look at the numbers. If 4 out of 5 students rate the teacher as a 100, yet one of the bad students rates the teacher a zero, that puts the teacher's rating at an 80. If you teach in a school with knuckleheads in ample numbers, your rating can be in the crapper even when you've done everything you can. The reviewers don't know the details of the 'poor' students' motivations.
11Bomber29 2 months ago
@jenniferkeyfrahm However, a lot of the time, students use the evaluations as a weapon against the teacher who isn't their "best friend." Once, a group of students collaborated to give one teacher a bad evaluation so she/he would get fired because he/she was a hard-ass. But, naturally, the one who WAS their best friend, got marvelous evaluations.
TurnerMichael1 1 month ago 2
@TurnerMichael1 But then. there are those few, those happy few, that give fair evaluations. I am sure you are one of them =)
TurnerMichael1 1 month ago
@jenniferkeyfrahm *that. (For English majors)
jenniferkeyfrahm 2 months ago
@jenniferkeyfrahm "But it seems like all teachers […] have dismissed that you were once students as well." No we haven't. In fact most of us spent MORE of our lives as students than non-teachers do. We also see dedicated, hard-working students of various skill levels/learning abilities every day. That's why we get so frustrated whenever we encounter a student who believes they deserve a passing grade regardless of how little effort they actually put into the class.
ProfessorHarrington 2 months ago 42
i got here because my band teacher liked this viedo..haha glad i'm not one of those students :D
underdogsrule 2 months ago
Lmao! "I'm going to write a bad review for you on my rate my teacher website LOL
Cuban20 2 months ago
The message this video is trying to convey is universally true, sadly, but I think it would be more effective without those computer-like voices...creepy.
Louleialalouwe 2 months ago
Welcome to my world -- this video would be funny if it weren't so spot on.
katmeyster 2 months ago 3
@jenniferkeyfrahm Most students know approximately what grade they're getting even before the final exam. That's why they grovel at the last second, as depicted in the video. Many students, especially freshmen who still have their high school mentality, are upset when they discover that they actually have to follow the rules and earn their grades. They try to weasel like they did in high school and get mad when something that has worked for 4 years suddenly fails.
elliedale9 2 months ago 3
@elliedale9 I'm not sure why people are acting like I condone this kind of student behavior. I didn't do it in high school and certainly not in college. But to defend the idea of students being unable to rate their teachers? What is this? Penn State? If you are decent teachers, it will take more than an angry flunkies complaints to end your jobs.
jenniferkeyfrahm 2 months ago
@elliedale9 I gave my teacher a halfway decent review (said he was very available and interested in helping us but his syllabus that he changed 3 times during the course was very disorganized.) And yes, you are correct. I thought I knew what I was getting in the course. I thought I was getting a D. I got a B. Anonymous rating system.... Hmmmm....
jenniferkeyfrahm 2 months ago
I loved this video!! What made it more hilarious was the fact that there are actual students like this in the world today. The professor made himself available throughout the semester, but the student did nothing. All of a sudden he's worried about his grade... Tough crap! It's his fault & no one else's. LMAO
ychav003 2 months ago 2
I've never gotten any of these excuses....(yeah right)....lol
doctord185 2 months ago
I just finished an evening class that I nearly failed due to absences even though my grades were consistently excellent, as in 98% on papers because she had to nitpick me out of a few points so I'd never get 100%. I called her, emailed her, met her in person, and whatnot to let her know that I would either be absent, have a paper to turn in, or simply have a question. I did everything except attend class... Luckily we sat down and discussed it, I gave no excuses, and she let me stay and pass.
beatsiz 2 months ago 2
@beatsiz Was the course heavily discussion-based? Were there lots of in-class activities, writing prompts, group activities, etc? If so, that's probably why attendance is required. A lot of profs don't grade those things, but you're not doing the same amount of work as other students if you aren't in class to do them. Learning happens in other ways than just through homework, exams, & papers, and profs need a mechanism to ensure that students participate in those other types of learning, too.
signejorgenson 2 months ago
@signejorgenson Not heavily, but quite involved with in-class activities as well as group activities. However, I do respect the professor. I am friends with her. I shook her hand, thanked her for everything, and talked for a while after I took my exam. But in the end I guess it's simply maintaining a level of respect for whatever rules there may be, wether I agree or disagree with them. In the end I still think that if I'm acing a class without attending, that I shouldn't have to fail it...
beatsiz 2 months ago
I literally had to clarify in the syllabus that just because a student gives a "reason" why they didn't do their work (aka their "excuse") does not mean that they are excused. To them the excuse = being excused.
ekeithj 2 months ago
oh yah! I recognize this conversation! No one shows up for office hours for 15 or 16 weeks than they all want to see how to improve their grade!
philipem01 2 months ago 3
@cewilmot--that's a great idea. I'll look into adding captions.
superamyable 2 months ago
Dear Aircheekz: The word is "probably." And, yes, things happen, and most profs are pretty understanding about the *occasional* problem. If you listen, you will hear that the issue here is a student who thinks he is ENTITLED to a grade just for existing in the universe and doing crap work. Grown-up level work is HARD, it's always been hard, and NO we did not get into Ph.D. programs with D's. And to those who did not like this video: If this OFFENDS you, YOU may be the problem.
michelle8ification 2 months ago 46
Dear Michelle: im not offended. im also not slow, i understand the moral of the video. unfortunately my youtube held my comment to a certain amount of letters so i couldnt really make my point. i meant times have change and professors should try changing with the time sin some situations. im not saying school work was ez back then, im just saying that expectations for newer generations are higher then they were in the past (ex. u could pass classes with D back in da day).
Aircheekz 2 months ago
i was mainly referring to the professors who claim they will hold a hard working student back becuz of a few measly pnts. its just not neccasary. good test grades dont mean you are smart or brighter (and in many cases even studying harder). students cheat all the time & the brightest students are usually C or B students. & consider this: this year my exercise nutrition professor said back when he was taking anatomy classes, he admitted that there was far less material to know and it was easier.
Aircheekz 2 months ago
@Aircheekz What the? I was one of the brightest students in my program and I received the grade of.. hmm.. A. I don't think anyone thought that the "C" students were the brightest. Sorry, that's just not how it works. Put in the effort and you'll get the grade you deserve. I'm a teacher/assistant professor and I assure you of this!
DailyDoseBeneros 2 months ago
of course what i said isnt always the case... the point i was trying to make is that grades arent a direct indication of intelligence... just means ur prolly better at studyin then others... idc how many A's somebody made in there lifetime doesnt really mean your the smartest. for all i know theyve been cheating in school the whole time (not referring to you just speaking in general). research shows that c students are usually just lazy but just as bright as A & B students in some cases.
Aircheekz 2 months ago
@Aircheekz No you couldn't this is college, in College a D was ALWAYS failing.
Vegerunks123 2 months ago
@Vegerunks123 lol not true... both of my parents & other profs have told me this before... go do your own research if you dont believe me... fyi my parents 60+ years of age so im sure they know what there talking about! im not sure how long of a time period it was were Ds where acceptable, could just been for a few years
Aircheekz 2 months ago
@Aircheekz okay then it was over 30 years ago seeing as my mom is 50 and when she was in College you had to get a C or higher to pass.
Vegerunks123 2 months ago
@Vegerunks123 ur moms only 50.... like i just said both my parents r over 60. its possible that the change was made shortly after they finished school. when my parents where in college ur mom was still in wut?... like elementary or middle school. she might not have even been aware of it herself.
Aircheekz 2 months ago
@Aircheekz thats why I said over 30 years ago... Besides it doesn't matter if students are expected to do better now a days or not, half the time if you get a D you don't deserve passing any how. The "professor" in this video stated everything that student did wrong and how he could have passed the class. If a student at least does the work half the time they'll finish the class with AT LEAST a C. If they last minute the work, or don't do it at all they'll be lucky to pass.
Vegerunks123 2 months ago
@Vegerunks123 I'm a new teacher. I just finished teaching my first semester of Biology 100 at a technical college. I had 48 students in my class at the start of the semester. 4 dropped the class because they were failing or for personal reasons mostly because of missed work. Of the remaining 44 students three outright failed the class with an F for a grade. Those that had an F DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO TAKE THE FINAL. If they had, they likely would have passed the class. Data to support your words.
ShidobuCloud 2 months ago
Oh my gosh! I love this!!! Do students really do this? I'm sure they do, but that is terrible!!! Every student should watch this before taking a college course.
xaberd22 2 months ago 2
@xaberd22 I agree!! lol
doctord185 2 months ago
@xaberd22 they should watch this before going to school in general lol.
Vegerunks123 2 months ago
Can you please caption this!!! I would love to share this with my students, but they are hard of hearing and deaf. I would love to share this with them.
cewilmot 2 months ago 4
Yes, I've had this discussion with students before, I've heard some of these excuses before, and that's all they are... excuses.
davenewcomb 2 months ago
@Aircheekz Either you're being ironically funny, or you're an idiot. Pick one.
sckinnctn 2 months ago
"I DO NOT LIKE THE WAY STUDENTS ACT I WILL MAKE A YOUTUBE VIDEO ABOUT IT SHOWING HOW SMART I AM AND HOW STUPID THEY ARE I AM A MATURE ADULT"
SenorTucan0594 2 months ago
@SenorTucan0594 You're a joke
mlzg4 2 months ago
of course as a student it is our job to hold up our end (study do the work), but every now & then hard working individuals come up short (just like good teachers sometimes get bad evals). it doesnt mean we've been slacking off. external factors always play apart! (ex: death, trauma, family issues). just think as students we face the judgement of a prof who went to school DECADES ago; the professor grading you prolly passed their classes with D's which where exceptable at one point in college.
Aircheekz 2 months ago
@Aircheekz Really?
tysonbfrance 2 months ago
@Aircheekz
Most people teaching entry-level composition courses did not go to school "decades ago." They most likely are still students or are recent graduates.
SivartAuhsoj 2 months ago
@SivartAuhsoj YES. I just got got out of school four years ago, and 75% of my teaching load (full-time, tenure track) is comprised of remedial-level and introductory-level comp courses in a tenure-track position.
signejorgenson 2 months ago
sorry but i wasnt referring to entry lvl professors. i understand there still young ppl. in fact they never are a problem and are always more helpful then older professors who are stuck in their same stubborn ways.
Aircheekz 2 months ago
I had this conversation last week.
MikeKanner1 2 months ago
Somebody has been eavesdropping on my conversations with students! Fortunately, most of them aren't like this.
hoffmankatie1 2 months ago
I've been though this conversation any number of times... I'm still waiting for one student that instead of saying "It's the end of the semester, and I'm worried about my grade," will say "It's the end of the semester, and I'm worried that I have only a limited understanding of the material for this course."
jeremysain215 2 months ago 3
This is accurate.
shesjustbeinemily 2 months ago
I hate it when all people focus about is the grade that they get at the end of the semester. If you're not learning anything, and you're not even mildly interested in the topic which the class is based on, you're definitely not in the right place, and should probably transfer to a different subject, NOT seek extra credit and corrections a day before the semester ends.
JonnyHebrew 2 months ago
@cubuff9, I'm in the Occupy movement and I'm an English professor.
bicyleirish 2 months ago
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nowhereboy 2 months ago
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@bicyleirish I doubt cubuff every saw the inside of a college classroom. Everything he learned he learned from Faux News.
nowhereboy 2 months ago
Great video, but why didn't you separate grade book into two separate words so they wouldn't say "graddabook"?
xthejordx 2 months ago
Sounds like the Occupy kids
cubuff9 2 months ago
It hurts... how true this is hurts... <--- college professor
guitalex2005 2 months ago 3
lol if there was a student who was exactly like this then im guessin he's a stoner.
toasteeze 2 months ago
@toasteeze Are you kidding me? MANY of my students sounds exactly like this! Some of them add tears, and others add insults. The general mentality is the same.
drearyvintage42 2 months ago 3
@drearyvintage42 i meant if ONE student had said everything this "kid" in the video said. didnt do homework, didnt revise papers, missed classes, asked for extra credit for not missing more than the max amount, etc.
toasteeze 2 months ago
@drearyvintage42 and that ONE kid left the final early and didnt finish
toasteeze 2 months ago
@drearyvintage42 sad when kids think they are entitled to slack off all year and expect to pass.
Barderella 2 months ago
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@drearyvintage42 sad when kids think they are entitled to slack off all year and expect to pass.
Barderella 2 months ago
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@drearyvintage42 it's sad when kids think they are entitled to slack off all year and expect to pass.
Barderella 2 months ago
Students in America today. Very sad. This is a demonstration of what too many students act like.
learn54 2 months ago
@learn54 Oddly enough, this is actually the mentality of many many international students who study here. Particularly from some of the wealthier nations.
drnknmstr90210 2 months ago
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MrKain1000 2 months ago
I know it's probably not fair to generalize/mock undergraduate students in a caricature like this, but it is *so true.* Thanks for the awesome course reviews, you slackers.
deliriumwaltz 2 months ago
Classic.
einaroneeye 2 months ago
I just had this conversation with a student today. I should have just played this for him and gotten back to grading.
843lessonlearned 2 months ago 12
@843lessonlearned
I guess he didn't... learn his lesson? ;)
pridelander06 2 months ago
Wow, I don't think I've ever known anyone who was THIS bad...then again, I'm not a teacher. What was up with the voices?
JollyMe08 2 months ago
@JollyMe08 The voices are computer generated.
emptyharbor 2 months ago
I have at least one student per quarter who uses these excuses. Sometimes I wish I didn't care so much.
Rendi5111 2 months ago
100 percent accurate.
readchomsky 2 months ago 4
xD
I laughed so hard at the very last line.
bcarri2014 2 months ago
This reminds me of conversations I have had with my middle school students and their parents. How sad that this behavior continues when they are adults in college.
melipooh72 2 months ago 3
I cannot stop watching this. Ahhh, It's hilarious.
hellolani32 2 months ago
"my stapler ran out of staples"
smacktard69 2 months ago 6
I get this song and dance just about every semester.
margaretmcart 2 months ago 2
Students pay tuition so they are entitled to good grades without any effort or responsibility.
The above comment was a joke-- but, unfortunately, far too many college students think this is true.
Claytoad1 2 months ago 39
This would be funny if it weren't so damned accurate. (It's still funny).
lhwhitaker1 2 months ago 2
Never care more about a student's education than s/he does.
SorryIPooted 2 months ago
It's funny because it is true.
LarryLawfer 2 months ago
This is why they should abolish student evaluations. Some students use it as a weapon against good teachers who don't do what they want.
sekingb 2 months ago 59
And some students use it to give feedback about legitimately terrible teachers.
TechnoRhino 2 months ago
@sekingb You're a moron, and eveyrthing that's wrong with our education system.
strawpurchasepublish 2 months ago
@sekingb That's a pretty one-sided statement.
InsidiousVendetta 2 months ago
@sekingb I think that's quite a hefty generalization. They don't usually have that large of an impact on what a teacher does unless all of the the students' evaluations address a similar issue. The teachers also get feedback on how their doing from the people they're teaching and unless an entire class is out to get them or they are just an ineffective professor, they're not going to receive unanimously negative reviews. The professors are working for the students. Most professors will agree.
MrKain1000 2 months ago
@sekingb student evaluations are almost completely and utterly irrelevant to most universities and faculty...
cjjj777 2 months ago
@cjjj777 They are irrelevant if you are part of the intrenched group of faculty...they only count if they are trying to get you out or undermine your tenure...otherwise no one cares. They are used purely punitively.
Thestuffandnonsense 2 months ago
@sekingb I don't think they should abolish student evaluations. I just started a new college as a Junior after my 2-year. Evaluations are REQUIRED or they do not release your grade. Not a bad idea. You can't say a student avenged his/her bad grade on their evaluations if they couldn't see their grade until they'd completed it.
jenniferkeyfrahm 2 months ago
I don't think student evaluations should be abolished either but your logic is flawed.
Evaluations are conducted toward the end of the semester usually after the third test which means some students that failed all 3 or 2 out of 3 already know they will fail the course when doing the evaluations.
scorpion1275 2 months ago
@sekingb If I had known they were required at my new school, I wouldn't have had the extra 5 days of panic waiting for my grades. It forced me to be honest about a terrible teacher that apparently gave me a B. While stoked for passing, it doesn't change how he taught. I think holding the grades gives it a chance for more honesty/accuracy, though it's incredibly weird.
jenniferkeyfrahm 2 months ago
@sekingb i was a good student, can I maybe not take any evaluations and still pass?
thetwinkleturnip 2 months ago
Hahahaha!!!! Oh so true
peachdawgs 2 months ago
If only my professors were this nice to begin with...
thefirstlazydude 2 months ago
as a college student, this video is epic. I feel bad for my professors lol
artaddiction101 2 months ago 6
There are 11 failing students who dislike this video.
ProfPod 2 months ago 5
I used to get good grades but then I took an arrow in the knee.
Selloutface 2 months ago
My professor showed this today lmfao
stevie123b 2 months ago
Funny how I watched this in Spanish class today and several people did this exact same thing. :p
nintinedofan 2 months ago