2) че Илийчовата постъпка е безумна, безотговорна, непоправимо глупава...
3) че тоя рецитал до последния куплет от песента е дело на комунистите, те са майстори на рециталите, и са ни отнели от насладата да чуем цялата песен изпята!
@SmartSeer ей ама само да се оплаквате и кусури да намирате знаете амааа.
Ако я беше изпяла колко време щеше да и отнеме. на едната страна на плочата нямаше да се събере. Какво са ти виновни комунистите тука? То сегашните са по бетер, че си продават държавицата на парченца без да им мигне окото....
Still there are not only Thracians, but Macedonians, and Moesians, right, or at least those are the three regions of Bulgaria.
Actually, you're right - there are so many loopholes in Bulgarian history that filling them will take generations.
For starters, you can make you own independant reading of it. Without the Slav and Bulgarian bullshit, without Russia, Turkey, and Austro-hungarian influence.
That's what you miss now - your positition on the big picture.
Moesia, Thracia and Macedonia as part of the Bulgaria are just a geographical zones for the bulgarian country. Thracians were everywhare. Besides Bulgarian history is much older than 1300 years.
I tried to draw your attention to your position as a nationality into the all EU pool. Then probably you'd have been able to understand that your nationality is neither unique, nor the single one on that region, and this does not matter as long as you don't contribute. The problem is that you've got nothing to contribute, and that's exactly what should be worrying you.
OK you seem to know nothing about history of Bulgaria. The bulgarian folklore is extremly ritch. Over 60 000 performances are in the phonoteque of the Bulgarian Radio. You can take a journey umong my files and you will see. Besides there were 3 Bulgarias: tha Danubian one, Volgo-Kama and Great Old Bulgaria. I dont have the space here to explain you history but it is realy vast.
The Bulgarian National Museum is ritcher then the British Museum and it's filled with artifacts from Bulgaria only. The oldest gold in the world made by human hand vas fond in the Varna halcolite necropolis. I don't know what do you realy mean...
Oh, you poor ingnorant! Where do you see chalga in my channel? I don't like it at all. This song indeed was created after the 16yh century.
You see to dispute no such matter you need facts and musical education. And you as I can see are mcDonalds mass product with probably "slavic" infuence.
First of all have you ever heard about asynchronous, disharmony, irregular or asymetric rhythm. Well those are characteristics of the unique bulragian folklore. But there are parallels in the iranic and indian music. Why?
Because this music cannons are very old, probably the oldest in the world. UNESCO recognized the Bistrishki babi formation as monument of archaic dissonant music cannon. This music is much older than the greek music.
The music themes were passed from generation to generation, the text is different. In Sofia region for example there are 15 different songs of a one melody line.
If talking about chalga the so called turkish kucek/kuchek is a fusion of 2 different music styles oriental and thracian. So the origin is Bulgaria. And the origin of the pop-folk idea is also Bulgaria. Look at the 20's and the 30's where there are so called popular records of gipsy performers in Bulgaria and later in the 50's in Serbia.
Actually the bulgarian chalga is so very selled as well as the serbian turbo folk in Yugoslavia back in the 80's. BUT you see in Bulgaria there are 3 schools of folclore music, that is for the bulgarian performers are way better than thode from the neighbour countries. See Bregovic he is using always bulgarian back-vocals.
The bulgarian chalga is connected with names like Ivo Papazov, orkestar "Kristal" and Ibro Lolov and has nothing to do with the yugoslavian turbo-folk or romanian (by the way beautiful) folklore
They were independant musisians durring the communist times. Oh, by the way are you aware that on the space probe "Voyager 2" there is a golden disc with Mozart and, oh, contribution to the world! "Izlel e Delio Haydutin" of Valya Balkanska
Просто бих искал да попитам, ако някой знае, дали тази продажба на собствената съпруга е свързана с някаква определена епоха от робството или с някакъв особен закон; или пък просто е художествено иносказание.
Във Османската Империя робството е било много широо разпространено. Но това е историята на вероятно леко пийнал и полакомен съпруг, с леко сърце е подал такава цена мислейки, че никой няма да му даде толкова пари.
Ако беше по принуда, или за да спаси селските девойки от поругание, щеше да се впише в картината за черните робски дни. Но да е от простотия, и то не защото е роб, а ей-тъй - звучи направо жалко.
Не е ясно защо и колко поколения още ще носят теглото на тази мъка и занапред, но е факт че има и зареждащ ефект ,които ни помага да издържим на много трудности в живота.Оттърсиш се от своите си проблеми като ги сравниш с тези във фолклора ни отразяващ миналото.
Харесвам песента и изпълнението другото нее важно..това е историта ни нее измислица
SuperGuruk 3 months ago
Някой знае ли къде се намира черквата от снимката на 4:20 ?
benchy1969 5 months ago
Силна песен, глупав българин, комунистическо стихочетство...
SmartSeer 7 months ago in playlist Bulgarian Folklore Subselection - Classic
@SmartSeer какво имаш предвид
stogerov 6 months ago
@stogerov
Ами,
1) че песента е силна, въздействаща!
2) че Илийчовата постъпка е безумна, безотговорна, непоправимо глупава...
3) че тоя рецитал до последния куплет от песента е дело на комунистите, те са майстори на рециталите, и са ни отнели от насладата да чуем цялата песен изпята!
SmartSeer 6 months ago
@SmartSeer ей ама само да се оплаквате и кусури да намирате знаете амааа.
Ако я беше изпяла колко време щеше да и отнеме. на едната страна на плочата нямаше да се събере. Какво са ти виновни комунистите тука? То сегашните са по бетер, че си продават държавицата на парченца без да им мигне окото....
stogerov 6 months ago
@stogerov
Не мога да преценявам толкова през пръсти като тебе...
SmartSeer 6 months ago
Нямам думи, а само сълзи в очите!!!
Dona6661 9 months ago
haunting music, truly magnificent :-))
FlyingFishbone 9 months ago
Благодаря за тези песни,приятелю!Тя беше любимата певица на баща ми.Тоѝ лично се познаваше с нея!Вечна им памет и на двамата!!!
MrRockchurch 1 year ago
Мерси за хубавата музика, брат :)
BulgarianFolkMusic 1 year ago
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ewo i w pesenta im lechi koliko sa glupawi owi ty bugari,ilijchowci....
ReyhanBalkan 2 years ago
imbecile, do you not know what goes around, comes around... ay sektir!
toofunkyniki 2 years ago
Rodnina mi e,ku6ta do ku6ta giveem
obedinenie 2 years ago
Прекрасна песен, покъртителна. Една от любимите ми народни песни!
benchy1969 3 years ago 5
Sure, you still have a lot to learn, but you're at least on the right track.
Reentsis 3 years ago
fantastic :)
jeannevdb 3 years ago
1300 years of history and 500 under Turkish ruling, 60 under communist, and another 500 under feudalism.
What kind of life could generate culture worthy for the civilization's heritage.
From my point of view, that's just a fictitious narrative appealing to compassion, in a morral blackmailing.
Reentsis 3 years ago
What do you mean by that? Are you aware of the thracians and the ancient bulgarian history?
stogerov 3 years ago
Yes, of course.
Still there are not only Thracians, but Macedonians, and Moesians, right, or at least those are the three regions of Bulgaria.
Actually, you're right - there are so many loopholes in Bulgarian history that filling them will take generations.
For starters, you can make you own independant reading of it. Without the Slav and Bulgarian bullshit, without Russia, Turkey, and Austro-hungarian influence.
That's what you miss now - your positition on the big picture.
Reentsis 3 years ago
I think you have personality problems...
Moesia, Thracia and Macedonia as part of the Bulgaria are just a geographical zones for the bulgarian country. Thracians were everywhare. Besides Bulgarian history is much older than 1300 years.
stogerov 3 years ago
I don't give a rat's ass what you think.
I tried to draw your attention to your position as a nationality into the all EU pool. Then probably you'd have been able to understand that your nationality is neither unique, nor the single one on that region, and this does not matter as long as you don't contribute. The problem is that you've got nothing to contribute, and that's exactly what should be worrying you.
Just prove me wrong, I beg you, please do.
Reentsis 3 years ago
OK you seem to know nothing about history of Bulgaria. The bulgarian folklore is extremly ritch. Over 60 000 performances are in the phonoteque of the Bulgarian Radio. You can take a journey umong my files and you will see. Besides there were 3 Bulgarias: tha Danubian one, Volgo-Kama and Great Old Bulgaria. I dont have the space here to explain you history but it is realy vast.
stogerov 3 years ago
Besides we are the people who create cirilic alphabet and the base of the slavonic language. There is a lot we did contribute.
stogerov 3 years ago
The Bulgarian National Museum is ritcher then the British Museum and it's filled with artifacts from Bulgaria only. The oldest gold in the world made by human hand vas fond in the Varna halcolite necropolis. I don't know what do you realy mean...
stogerov 3 years ago
The oldest gold is from present Iraq, dated 6300 B.C. Don't lie.
It is old though, I agree, and so rare in Europe.
Unline you my friend, I have seen both, and I know exactly how rich are they.
By the way, is it still 10 leva the entrance fee?
Reentsis 3 years ago
Are you sure have you checked that? I didn't gave the age of the artefacts so that could check you.
stogerov 3 years ago
You? Dear Sir, I did not know you skipped history. Is that what they teach you in school?
Do you know where is Moravia?
You sir accepted it as an antagonistic effort not to accept Greek or Turkish.
You did not create anything but used already created alphabet. Just as Russians did.
Reentsis 3 years ago
Of course I know where moravia is but do you know who was it's first bishop?
stogerov 3 years ago
And are you sure you know who the slavs are?
stogerov 3 years ago
I can assure you are gravely mistaken.
Noone disputes your cultural roots and product. What I said is that you don't contribute TODAY!
Where's Bulgarian music today among the copies of Romaninan and Serbian music you call chalga, right?
This one is how old exactly? 100-200-300 years?
And get it finally please - there is only one Bulgaria into only one European Union.
Russia may call bulgaria whatever they think appropriate, however the right over Bulgaria belongs to present Bulgarians.
Reentsis 3 years ago
Oh, you poor ingnorant! Where do you see chalga in my channel? I don't like it at all. This song indeed was created after the 16yh century.
You see to dispute no such matter you need facts and musical education. And you as I can see are mcDonalds mass product with probably "slavic" infuence.
stogerov 3 years ago
First of all have you ever heard about asynchronous, disharmony, irregular or asymetric rhythm. Well those are characteristics of the unique bulragian folklore. But there are parallels in the iranic and indian music. Why?
stogerov 3 years ago
Because this music cannons are very old, probably the oldest in the world. UNESCO recognized the Bistrishki babi formation as monument of archaic dissonant music cannon. This music is much older than the greek music.
The music themes were passed from generation to generation, the text is different. In Sofia region for example there are 15 different songs of a one melody line.
stogerov 3 years ago
If talking about chalga the so called turkish kucek/kuchek is a fusion of 2 different music styles oriental and thracian. So the origin is Bulgaria. And the origin of the pop-folk idea is also Bulgaria. Look at the 20's and the 30's where there are so called popular records of gipsy performers in Bulgaria and later in the 50's in Serbia.
stogerov 3 years ago
Actually the bulgarian chalga is so very selled as well as the serbian turbo folk in Yugoslavia back in the 80's. BUT you see in Bulgaria there are 3 schools of folclore music, that is for the bulgarian performers are way better than thode from the neighbour countries. See Bregovic he is using always bulgarian back-vocals.
stogerov 3 years ago
And not only him: Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Metalica is using bulgarian rhythm
stogerov 3 years ago
The bulgarian chalga is connected with names like Ivo Papazov, orkestar "Kristal" and Ibro Lolov and has nothing to do with the yugoslavian turbo-folk or romanian (by the way beautiful) folklore
stogerov 3 years ago
They were independant musisians durring the communist times. Oh, by the way are you aware that on the space probe "Voyager 2" there is a golden disc with Mozart and, oh, contribution to the world! "Izlel e Delio Haydutin" of Valya Balkanska
stogerov 3 years ago
Отдавна не бях слушала наистина разтърсваща народна песен, различна от вече "комерсиализираните" такива. Благодаря ти, че си я споделил.
PirinGirl 3 years ago
Аз комерции 'ич не слушам. :-)
stogerov 3 years ago
Priyatelu ne iskam da izglejda grubo ama tva ne e bezmenzurna pesen za da e tryabva da i se mahne saprovoda ot muzika
Huumiindur 3 years ago
безмензурна значи такава която не се мести във стандартните канони на музиката, тоест не може да се запише с ноти. А съпровода само акцентира.
stogerov 3 years ago
sigura li si?
Huumiindur 3 years ago
Моето дете аз съм музикантче :-) Без съпровод са нарича акапела ( acapella )
stogerov 3 years ago
ok 6tom si muzikant4e
Huumiindur 3 years ago
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Просто бих искал да попитам, ако някой знае, дали тази продажба на собствената съпруга е свързана с някаква определена епоха от робството или с някакъв особен закон; или пък просто е художествено иносказание.
Поздрав
lovefaithhopelove 3 years ago
Във Османската Империя робството е било много широо разпространено. Но това е историята на вероятно леко пийнал и полакомен съпруг, с леко сърце е подал такава цена мислейки, че никой няма да му даде толкова пари.
Неговата трагедия е неговата лекомисленост.
stogerov 3 years ago
Ако беше по принуда, или за да спаси селските девойки от поругание, щеше да се впише в картината за черните робски дни. Но да е от простотия, и то не защото е роб, а ей-тъй - звучи направо жалко.
lovefaithhopelove 3 years ago
Абе проблемът е, че въобще е имало робство.
stogerov 3 years ago
В такъв случай, нямам какво да кажа. Целият уж драматизъм на песента и свръхталантът на изпълнителката отиват на кино.
lovefaithhopelove 3 years ago
mnogo xubave par4eto,xubave i mn tyjne!
arkadiu6 3 years ago
Благодаря!
Нямам думи да опиша вълнението си.
dragovishtitza 3 years ago
Не е ясно защо и колко поколения още ще носят теглото на тази мъка и занапред, но е факт че има и зареждащ ефект ,които ни помага да издържим на много трудности в живота.Оттърсиш се от своите си проблеми като ги сравниш с тези във фолклора ни отразяващ миналото.
MAPeneva 3 years ago
Няма по-тъжен песенен фолклор от българския, който е отражение на превратната ни история. Благодаря ти за клипа и песента, направо ме разтърси!
VMOPO 3 years ago