Thats what happens to a lot of kenne bell cobras. They get heat soaked and the computer pulls timing and you lose power. They can drop 20-40 hp depending on how heat soaked the blower gets. So his 590 becomes 550 and if the ZO6 has 496 it should make for a drivers race. In my experience it takes 50 rwhp more from a cobra to match a ZO6. Thats why these races turned out the way they did.
@digiam42 03cobrarick said these were the best runs they did, on his other video with the more powerful KB gt500 racing the same corvette, he mentions heat soak and you see the result, still putting down way more than the vette. Yeah they need at least 50rwhp to hang or more that's with both the c5 and c6 and still at about 140 they fall back
i demand more lol i love the vette more but both. Chevy's my Viagra but the 03 and 04 cobra is a ford to buy this should show the difference and make a statement
I love Mustangs. Corvette's are badass and usaully faster though. What happened to Mustang vs GTO or Mustang vs Camaro? Cars with more in common...oh yeah b/c then the Ford wins and too many people get upset...
@Verification11 when I see vettes I say it's jus another vette. An u right bout the mustangs but if I see a gt500 it turns my head.z06 doesn't do that for me the zr1 would tho. I it's all preference.
Yea, you can see the Cobras 100 horsepower advantage at the beginning of the second run..the Cobra pulled away by a half car length for the first few hundred feet then less weight and superior aerodynamics gave the Vett the edge. Both cars are sick. I have a modded 03 Jaguar S-Type R (4.2 DOHC 32 valve, smaller bore 4.6 Cobra motor with same M-112 supercharger). In stock trim it puts out 400 hp @ 410 lb/ft torque. With 3 lb pulley, full exhaust mod, etc. it belts out 475 hp @ 510 lb/ft torque.
@TheArfdog It (the s/c belt) did slip. You can hear the s/c whine lose pitch. My 475 hp 03 Jaguar S-Type R (s/c 4.2 . Stock 400 hp @ 410 lb/trq) blew away a 2010 Camaro SS. We repeated several runs till the s/c belt slipped. At that point I had to park her till the belt and charge coolers cooled down (heat soak).
@enjoi543 2nd race: Both in 2nd gear; Cobra out puls the Vette for first 200 hundred feet. 1st race: Cobra starts in 3rd gear whilst the Vette in a better advantaged 2nd gear. Mustang, though having 100 more hp is 400 pounds heavier plus a much higher drag coefficient. All variables considered: "Even match" i.e. pound for pound, motor to motor, and drag coefficient.
@enjoi543 There are a few more vids of Cobras out pulling a Z06 Vette, however my point is: both are animals and a little blown 4.6 litre motor can stand up to a 7 litre animal.
@tuugfo Shoot dude...look at the difference in displacement of both motors and weight of cars. The Cobras' little 4.6 plus nearly 400 more pounds is a huge disadvantage prior to modding. The second race reveals the Cobra initially out pulling the Vette for the first few hundred feet.
@chiropractic47 hmmmm sorry, that "little blown" 32v 4cam 4.6 is actualy both dimensionally larger and heavier (even without the blower) than an that 16v pushrod LS7. Don't diss an LS7 man, it was named World Racings engine of the year for a reason. If youre gonna talk displacement you might as well mention the other aspects of these ford engines. Both the 4.6 and LS7 are great engines but don't knock an LSx for displacement if you can bring up other engine aspects (ie pushrod or OHC)
Both awesome cars but actually in this case the cobra has the power/weight advantage (cobra 6.11lbs per horsepower and Z06 6.33lbs per hp). I know there are many, many other factors that play into this but this just goes to show just how perfectly engineered the Z06 really is.
@Verification11 Honestly, I could have bought a c6z, would have been tight but not that big of a deal, i went with a cobra because i can take more than one friend and use it as a dd in summer
Nice Video, Im glad you put a decent song along with still being able to hear the two god sounding cars. I wish my GTO came Supercharged the cobra sounds fucking amazing.
Wow! Who would've thought. Two separate classes. Put that cobra against anything in its class and it would dominate. Lets find a Ford Gt with the same mods as the Z06 and see what happens. There is always alot of videos on here with Corvettes vs. mustangs and Chevy guys talk shit about Ford. Fucking losers race something in your class your making Chevy look bad.
@justrockin05 thats what the zr1 is for, zr1> gt its already been proven, ford gt is slower then a zr1 around the nurburgring too, but i have to say i love gt's from just the wayy they look lol
@justrockin05 zr1 has been PROVEN to be faster then a ford gt, around the nurburgring and faster in a straight line as well, however even tho a ford gt is sexy as hell, they are not in production anymore and the zr1 is considerably a better value!
no offence but i hate people on here with these Terminator Cobra's that dont know how to drive them. When you are racing hold the throttle to the floor when you shift..... you get pulled as soon as you let off the gas. As long as your quick and practice at it you wont hurt nothing. I do it to my 94 Cobra all the time and transmission hasn't gone out yet :)
@quickbeeare what do you mean you dont know where to begin. The guy is granny shifting the car. When most people race they shift WOT. If he was driving that cobra right those tires would be spinning 1st - 3rd and be going sideways.
@bigballa2372 Wow. Just wow. Stop playing Need For Speed, kid and get a DL. Yeah, it totally makes sense to over-rev your car even outside of the powerband, and every "true youtube racer" knows that spinning you're wheels is the key to winning (traction is so old school, huh?) Genius, Kid. Just genius.
Yeah, judging by no age listed on your page and fucking Hollywood Undead, I'm willing to bet you don't even have a car, it's pretty obvious. Brilliant, just brilliant, kid.
@quickbeeare umm you dont overrev ur car dumbass you just dont granny shift it. why do u think that corvette pulled the cobra? LISTEN TO THE FUCKING COBRA SHIFT. my fucking mom can drive that car faster than him. and like i said i got a 94 cobra and my dads got a 91 fox body running 5's in the 1/8. and i know nothing about cars? what do u got bro? a V6 stang?
@quickbeeare why dont u rewatch the vid while ur at it dude since u know so much. You hear the corvette? All you hear is the motor change pitches when he shifts. You know why? He aint letting off the gas! Then listen to the Cobra. You can tell when he lets off because the supercharger stops. and by the way. Im 17 and probably know more about cars than your dumbass considering I grew up around racing dumbfuck.
how is it possible that a 496whp car pulls on a 590whp car? unless that zo6 is lighter or that guy in the cobra is lying about what his car really puts out. witch happends a lot in the streets people lying about what they have.
@03CobraRick yep you're 100% correct. Weight is often one of the most over looked aspects on a car. Cobra's are actually quite heavy for what they are as opposed to the Z06 that is super light for what it is. It's hard to beat the new Z06's stock much less when they are modded. Between the power to weight ratio and the awesome aerodynamics. They are a bad ass machine, but the cobra makes me want to nut in my pants too lol.
@vegetaum Actually the coefficient of drag for the Z06 is .34, and .32 for the Cobra - so the total drag force acting on both cars is very similar, although the Vette appears to be more aerodynamic. However, the Z06 is creating much more downforce than the Cobra, and downforce = induced drag.
@03CobraRick well if you ever feel like spitting some cobra knowledge at me im all ears haha i love reading about this shit. the 03-04 svt cobra is my favorite car. im getting a mustang tattoo tomorrow haha
@03CobraRick No, the Z06's Coefficient of drag is .31cd. Not sure were you got your info from. Also the Z06 still produces some lift at high speed, just not as much as a cobra and is why you see video's of the Z06 just crusin along at 190mph without issue.
@03CobraRick No, the C5 Z06 was .29 cd, the base c6 is .289 cd, the Z06 is .31cd. Ever wonder why it takes cobra's and GTO's 100rwhp more to keep up with the Z06's(and sometimes not even keep up)? Cd, better gearing, weight. In that order when doing roll ons.
@vegetaum Yes but it's a coefficient, not a constant. That number must be multiplied by the surface air of the object. The Vette has a smaller front end, so its coefficient is muliplied by a lower number. The drag coefficient may be similar, but drag area is much different.
@ls1killa its b/c of 2 things. #1 the corvette is lighter with better front to rear balance. its 51/49 front to rear (almost perfect). the Cobra has an iron block 4.6l engine which adds tons of weight to the front end, therefore bad weight transfer. #2 the corvette's drivetrain is built with better quality. also there is less power loss from the crank to the tires. on top of all that, it is more aerodynamic and is built for high speeds.
Corvettes are amzingly desinged machine t a true American Pride, and as for the Cobra, another amazing car... A Termi has a lot of potential, just as a z06... Great vid, Gret race, FABOLOUS CARS!
He's won/lost a few over the past year or so, I just haven't filmed any. We really don't care who wins or loses, we just do it for fun and to compare the performance. Most every car we set the C6 Z up with was nearly even or the Z was faster. He's lost to a 730 RWHP C6 Z, a TT'd E36 M3 and a ~620 AWHP Evo. They're certainly not unbeatable, it's just hard to find cars that are a good match for a modded Z.
Agree, that's kinda what i was getting at. C6 Z06 is a hell of a car. It seems like you got the idea i was insulting your mustang, which is not the case at all. IMO, a terminator cobra was the best car money could buy. 400HP stock, and a block and forged internals good for 1000HP, doesn't get any better than that.
Your right Man! The z06 s such a beast! Even stock it will rarely lose to even heavily modded cars. Light weight, perfect weight distribution, killer hp and torque curve, I would say almost the perfect car. Love that stang too, I love them all.
whaaaat, that's all? I didn't think they make so much HP at the wheels, stock, considering 505BHP...that's only 10% power loss from the crank to the wheels?
Both are badazz cars... Vette wins with less power cause it's almost a 1000lbs lighter... power to weight ratio... also, is there a passenger in the vette to offset the extra passenger in the cobra that is doing the fliming? Only fair to have a passenger in both right? I'm waiting for my 6.7 iron block ls1 with t76 to come out the shop myself :)
really its only about 700. but those c6z's are beasts. I have an c5z and its pretty bad but those new ones are on a whole other level like its not even funny.80-100hp differential in a c5 to cobra is a darn good race. you can see here with 100 hp difference the zo6 just leaves him after the first shift.
Awesome cars both of them. I have seen other videos with the corvette down 80- 100 hp with SC Cobras and the Corvette still comes out on top. The ZO6 is the ultimate ass kicker. Great video !!!
Oh, and my car right now books for only 18k, so fuck your 40k Z06, which is BS, they hold their value, but even if, still less than half. And it's a lot more fun to build a car rather than buy one. I've had a blast building my Terminator, and although, mostly I'm not the underdog, except for Z06's, I was, no more. I spent big on suspension/brakes and weight reduction. I paid big to have my suspension setup. You assume whatever you like, "ASSUME". Come to the circuit where I race & get schooled.
I don't blame him for just lettin off it on the 2nd race lol. A Vette is a real sports car, 100 less hp or not, it's gonna be real tough. But IMO, I like the fact the cars are very close in numbers when they're stock, yet $30,000 or so apart. I think I'll take my two Terminators lol. Nah I like the Z06, it kiils the Euro's, and we need that.
But honestly, that 100hp should really have done better, IMO. Maybe it was a little driver issue, but.. Which KB? I've got the 2.8H, I doubt he does..
First off, this guy "only" made 85 - 90 more hp than me. Secondly, he was an inexperienced driver so it did look worse than it should have. Thirdly, there's ANOTHER video of me racing a 604rwhp KB Cobra and I still edged him out. And trust me, you get your money's worth in WARRANTEED factory parts in the extra 30k you spend in the Z06. Anyone who has actually driven the two cars and has an objective opinon would agree.
WHAT?? You get your money's worth for the extra 30k you spent because of the warranty? Dude you yourself said the car's tuned, where's the warranty now?? I'll take another identical 2004 Terminator, for the same price I'd have payed for 1 Z06, period.
Not everyone spends all their money on power, I spent big on suspension, then it's setup, gears, clutch/flywheel, weight reduction, and brakes. I have no problem at my local circuit with Z06's, and my cost is still under 40k. Nonsense.
No, dumbass. You get 30k more in both performance and reliability. And even with the car tuned, it's covered under warranty (already had the motor swapped with the mods on it). You obviously haven't driven a C6 Z before. It's miles ahead of the Terminator in EVERY aspect, even if you can mod yours to be as fast. And Cobras aren't NEARLY as reliable as Corvettes are. Also, used C6 Z's are in the 40's now.
What the hell, you call me a dumbass? You don't even know me... Typical fucking youtube, know it all goddamn troll with a huge ego. You're just pissed off about the cars I own you and all the proof I have on my channel, you jealous ego maniacal presumptuous dick.
First, I have not driven a Z06, only spent time in a friends as a passenger. Second, you think a Terminator can't be modded to beat a Z06 on a Circuit? Well I do...regardless whether you believe me, it's reality, fuck you deal with it
That sounds an awful lot like a pullied eaton my buddies got a whipple Cobra and he kills Zo6s all day long modded or other wise hes putting down 630 rwp and 590 torq still I love the new Zs both cars are badass
Dyno the Cobra .....it isnt NEAR what it says. I would say bolt on super "kit". Isnt tuned isnt tested, isnt driven, that Zo6 should have been killed. I am a die hard chevy fan, but the z06 isnt that badass on the street. This one should have been walked.
Seems that you may be misinformed. I've been in the Z06 while racing several other ~580-600 RWHP KB Cobra's and they are always about dead even, the Cobra's usually fall behind a half car to a car due to gearing differences at the start of the race and then remain in that position for the rest of the race. They are very evenly matched. Remember, this isn't a stock C6 Z06, it's about 50 RWHP up from stock. A 525 RWHP Cobra is about even with a stock Z06.
"03CobraRick" You're about dead on, before I got the 2.8H I was running a different setup, 518whp, and I was always even. Since the 2.8H I had the car setup to run circuit, so it's got racing suspension, Brembo's, weight reduction, geared, FAR too much to list. It's setup to beat Z06/Vipers on the circuit, at 1/3 the Cost. (Car Accident Settlement paid for it, had a '99 crushed ) I also race my VR6 and Saab at the circuit.
Drag racing is BS, go circuit, you'll never drag again, ever, I promise.
CobraRick, can you please tell me your modds? Which KB do you have, who tuned it? Are you running pump? (You realize you have have it set to use two tuned, and go out and race ppl using 110 octane right? You'd see well over 700hp easy.
Anyways I'd like to know your modds, and your honest opinion why you lost, because I did the match (I'm a physics nerd) and you should have won, although I didn't figure in Aerodynamics, but they shouldn't matter in such a "quick, start/done" race. Any info thx.
the numbers do add up... ive seen it time and time again a cobra with 100 more horses and usually you get a dead even run with these new vetts. vette is lighter and has better aero dynamics thats makes up for its lower hp rating. i thought the kb would hang better too but maybe the guy in the vette is shifting like a madman. good race either way. i prefer ford but i give respect to the bow ties ;)
Yes, 100 hp more IS going to make up the 500 lbs more. Look at the video Whipple Cobra vs C6 Z06 and then start talking. Like I said the numbers dont add up here.
that jus goes to show you how restricted the montrous 7liter beast is from the factory a tune on the car and its a totally different animal. what people dont realize is fords approach to more power which is the forced induction easily adds 200+lbs to the car the weight is fromt the charger all its components and of course the iron block. the N/A z06 is an incredible car! and drag racing isnt where the z06 really shines its on the track where it feels most at home!
I have to give the Cobra Credit... although its got 94 more hp, it also weighs 3 or 400lbs more and had a camera guy in the car. Both cars hold there own, but they dont call it the Terminator for nothing.
I'd trade my Cobra for a C6 Z any day, it's such a nicer/better car all around performance car. Although the Cobra is a heck of a lot of fun on the street, they're both awesome cars.
who the hell starts in 3rd gear at 45 mph....Cobra needs a driver....but thats one sweet ass vet...this coming from a Mustang owner for the last 20 years....I dig the vets, but piss on the camaros...
NO - your statement is stupid - STUPID! I guess you don't know who John Force is and how he kicks ass with mustangs in a quarter mile huh? I guess you've never seen LeMans racing and how vettes perfrom in touring races huh?
Nice video and nice vett, but the cobra owner is ridiculous.... power to weight should be a really close race. The better driver won this one.... I love cobras so much
well i said 400 lbs because a Z06 with full options is a little over 3200 lbs and the cobra coupe will always be 3665 because there are no options for that year. either way i still cant see how this race turned out that way
WOW come on the cobra driver loses 1/2 a car every shift! and i think either the cobra or vette is lying about its dyno numbers because even though the cobra is about 400 lbs more i just cant see how 94hp more in the cobra cant ATLEAST even it out =/
The Vette is much lighter(quicker takeoff) and more aerodynamic(better at highway speed) than the Mustang, plus the Vette also has a much better drivetrain setup(i.e. taller tranny gears and stiffer clutch) so this looks about right for a highway run. I think that Cobra did a damn good job at hanging with a C6 Z06. There are not many cars that can...
lol shit out ya damn mind u think that cobra gonna beat a vette. lol na jk but really. u need something to stretch out ur gears. he was still in 2nd when cobra was goin to 4th
cobra needs driver mod... shifts to slow ;) not hating either car both are badass but with a diff driver I am positive there would have been a different outcome.
Cobra's pushing 590rwhp and gets taken by 100hp less Vette??? I call bullshit sounds like they lied to you at they dyno I pull vettes with nitrous and I'm nowhere near 590rwhp
kb cobra is one of my favorite machines ever, but outrunning a z06 is not easy, no matter what you're in
FeeIsTheName 2 weeks ago
cool vid, KB sounds MAD!!! lol love that sound
formulized94 3 weeks ago
Rolls shows who's got bigger pockets, digs show who's a better driver
whitegxp313 2 months ago
@whitegxp313 ZO6 has 6% more weight over the rear tires and has wider rear tires, a 600 wheel horse cobra isn't beating a ZO6 of the line either.
IDontHateOnCars 2 months ago
@IDontHateOnCars never said the cobra would beat it im just saying if your going to race race from dig and quit being pussys
whitegxp313 1 month ago
0:06 The Corvette has such wide tires!
coolguy3432 4 months ago
@coolguy3432 325 mm rear
IDontHateOnCars 4 months ago
I know I'm gonna get yelled at, but I forget the name of the song :(
monkeymarine291 4 months ago
corvette had better shift times
Teamgrimmiexlove64 5 months ago
Thats what happens to a lot of kenne bell cobras. They get heat soaked and the computer pulls timing and you lose power. They can drop 20-40 hp depending on how heat soaked the blower gets. So his 590 becomes 550 and if the ZO6 has 496 it should make for a drivers race. In my experience it takes 50 rwhp more from a cobra to match a ZO6. Thats why these races turned out the way they did.
digiam42 6 months ago
@digiam42 03cobrarick said these were the best runs they did, on his other video with the more powerful KB gt500 racing the same corvette, he mentions heat soak and you see the result, still putting down way more than the vette. Yeah they need at least 50rwhp to hang or more that's with both the c5 and c6 and still at about 140 they fall back
luvscience44 6 months ago
Is there any video of the c6 z06 losing on youtube...? I cant fine any......
Taiji4Life 6 months ago
@Taiji4Life Of course. there's Whipple cobra vs c6 zo6 which, the corvette is down 150 horse on the dyno !
luvscience44 6 months ago
Should of been procharged.
NightGod07 7 months ago
that vette has the hips of a goddess
UBeesh10 7 months ago
learn how to shift
darkknight2536 7 months ago
That Cobra didn't have 590 it was stock!
MicahLeviClark 7 months ago
@MicahLeviClark it wasnt, i kno the guy, it has 634 rwhp now and the vette has 701 hp
neerredd 7 months ago
@MicahLeviClark hell no it wasn't stock turn your speakers up and hear all the boost atleast 17lbs
luvscience44 7 months ago
@MicahLeviClark lmfao
iNFAMOUSBIGC 6 months ago
Those rear tires on the Z06 are HUGE!
tksemipro 7 months ago
How do you say it would have done better with a better driver?They went rolling so there was no traction issue the z06 is just faster thats all!
camirocz 7 months ago
i demand more lol i love the vette more but both. Chevy's my Viagra but the 03 and 04 cobra is a ford to buy this should show the difference and make a statement
luvscience44 7 months ago
Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face... great song and great race. Beating a Kenny Bell..... damn nice kill yo
ztwntyn8 8 months ago
To bad in second race the driver missed 4rth that would have been a close one.
bluecapone 9 months ago
@bluecapone yes but that badass cobra's not doing 198
luvscience44 7 months ago
@bluecapone
Agreed.
bluecapone 7 months ago
impressive cobra running with a z06
tredts 9 months ago
Hey nutsack!! American muscle wins every time!!!! LOL
mhadidia 9 months ago
I love my American built muscle cars! !@#$ Imports.
41stuka 10 months ago
ill take a z06 over any mustang! fuck rustangs the zr1 eats all
timtat16 10 months ago
that ford wasnt ready
MASTERMARK360 10 months ago
this is why i love vettes less power natrually aspirated, and faster... BOWTIE TILL I DIE
tuugfo 11 months ago
@tuugfo How longs your mullet?
final1 10 months ago
Awesome battle with 2 of my favorite cars!
JohnwinsGTO 11 months ago
There there ford fanboy no one likes cry babies
dantheman9808 11 months ago
I love Mustangs. Corvette's are badass and usaully faster though. What happened to Mustang vs GTO or Mustang vs Camaro? Cars with more in common...oh yeah b/c then the Ford wins and too many people get upset...
fordfan0046 11 months ago
mustang drivers grow up to drive CORVETTES....I did...LOL..dont be mad be glad : )
kinggreggy 1 year ago 7
@Verification11 when I see vettes I say it's jus another vette. An u right bout the mustangs but if I see a gt500 it turns my head.z06 doesn't do that for me the zr1 would tho. I it's all preference.
cato12 1 year ago
@cato12 although i dont think that a gt500 doesnt turn that many heads, i do agree, more people look at it then a regular vette, but not a zr1 lol
neerredd 10 months ago
Yea, you can see the Cobras 100 horsepower advantage at the beginning of the second run..the Cobra pulled away by a half car length for the first few hundred feet then less weight and superior aerodynamics gave the Vett the edge. Both cars are sick. I have a modded 03 Jaguar S-Type R (4.2 DOHC 32 valve, smaller bore 4.6 Cobra motor with same M-112 supercharger). In stock trim it puts out 400 hp @ 410 lb/ft torque. With 3 lb pulley, full exhaust mod, etc. it belts out 475 hp @ 510 lb/ft torque.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
yay for aerodynamics and lightweight.
alwaysanthony 1 year ago
@alwaysanthony interesting fact is that the cobra has a lower coefficient of drag, weight is a huge advantage for the z06 though
202WRX 1 year ago
a hundred more hp and it still cant beat a vette, damn i cant wait till i get my c6 z06
tuugfo 1 year ago
@tuugfo In the second race the Cobra walked the Vette for the first few hundred feet till the supercharger belt began to slip.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
@chiropractic47 lol that's always the excuse. belt slip.
TheArfdog 11 months ago
@TheArfdog It (the s/c belt) did slip. You can hear the s/c whine lose pitch. My 475 hp 03 Jaguar S-Type R (s/c 4.2 . Stock 400 hp @ 410 lb/trq) blew away a 2010 Camaro SS. We repeated several runs till the s/c belt slipped. At that point I had to park her till the belt and charge coolers cooled down (heat soak).
chiropractic47 11 months ago
@chiropractic47 what do u mean the cobra walked it they were dead even
enjoi543 10 months ago
@enjoi543 You can clearly see that the Cobra walked the Vett the first 100 feet.
chiropractic47 10 months ago
@chiropractic47 it didnt walk shit dude your blind
enjoi543 10 months ago
@enjoi543 2nd race: Both in 2nd gear; Cobra out puls the Vette for first 200 hundred feet. 1st race: Cobra starts in 3rd gear whilst the Vette in a better advantaged 2nd gear. Mustang, though having 100 more hp is 400 pounds heavier plus a much higher drag coefficient. All variables considered: "Even match" i.e. pound for pound, motor to motor, and drag coefficient.
chiropractic47 10 months ago
@chiropractic47 well why is this the only video off a cobra beating a z06?
enjoi543 10 months ago
@enjoi543 There are a few more vids of Cobras out pulling a Z06 Vette, however my point is: both are animals and a little blown 4.6 litre motor can stand up to a 7 litre animal.
chiropractic47 10 months ago
@chiropractic47 thats becaus most cobras are modded and z06 are close to stock if not stock, but both are badass indeed, but corvette>cobra
tuugfo 10 months ago
@tuugfo Shoot dude...look at the difference in displacement of both motors and weight of cars. The Cobras' little 4.6 plus nearly 400 more pounds is a huge disadvantage prior to modding. The second race reveals the Cobra initially out pulling the Vette for the first few hundred feet.
chiropractic47 10 months ago
@chiropractic47 hmmmm sorry, that "little blown" 32v 4cam 4.6 is actualy both dimensionally larger and heavier (even without the blower) than an that 16v pushrod LS7. Don't diss an LS7 man, it was named World Racings engine of the year for a reason. If youre gonna talk displacement you might as well mention the other aspects of these ford engines. Both the 4.6 and LS7 are great engines but don't knock an LSx for displacement if you can bring up other engine aspects (ie pushrod or OHC)
BEBNC1 1 month ago
@BEBNC1 Not "dissing" the LS7, awesome motor.
chiropractic47 1 month ago
@BEBNC1 1st race Cobra in 3rd gear Vette in 2nd, Vette pulls. 2nd race both in 2nd gear, Cobra pulls.
chiropractic47 1 month ago
Both awesome cars but actually in this case the cobra has the power/weight advantage (cobra 6.11lbs per horsepower and Z06 6.33lbs per hp). I know there are many, many other factors that play into this but this just goes to show just how perfectly engineered the Z06 really is.
BEBNC1 1 year ago
corvette looks better preforms better handles better w8s less better ayrodynamics = ???
and when u see a vett in the street u notice but when u see a mustang u just think its another car
what would u chose ... only if u can't afford the vett u will buy a mustang
cause if i am that rich i will go with zo6 or a zr1 or a gtr r35
Verification11 1 year ago
@Verification11 Honestly, I could have bought a c6z, would have been tight but not that big of a deal, i went with a cobra because i can take more than one friend and use it as a dd in summer
202WRX 1 year ago
What happened to lankhoss?
Anti8705 1 year ago
damn those are real cars...
2115will 1 year ago
RIP lankhoss!
EvoBgone 1 year ago
@EvoBgone Yes I heard he passed away! RIP, SAD!
westfabrications 1 year ago
@westfabrications What? Really?? When did this happen??
BEBNC1 1 year ago
@BEBNC1 APROX ABOUT 3 MONTHS, AGO. i HEARD HE SMOTHERED IN HIS SLEEP? iM NOT SURE IF THIS IS TRUE THOUGH.
westfabrications 1 year ago
Nice Video, Im glad you put a decent song along with still being able to hear the two god sounding cars. I wish my GTO came Supercharged the cobra sounds fucking amazing.
ricepicker84015 1 year ago
u know how u say there nothing like a cobra, then you see a z06 and your like, fuck, there is !!! a vette
HAROGTI 1 year ago
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justrockin05 1 year ago
Wow! Who would've thought. Two separate classes. Put that cobra against anything in its class and it would dominate. Lets find a Ford Gt with the same mods as the Z06 and see what happens. There is always alot of videos on here with Corvettes vs. mustangs and Chevy guys talk shit about Ford. Fucking losers race something in your class your making Chevy look bad.
justrockin05 1 year ago
@justrockin05 thats what the zr1 is for, zr1> gt its already been proven, ford gt is slower then a zr1 around the nurburgring too, but i have to say i love gt's from just the wayy they look lol
tuugfo 10 months ago
@justrockin05 zr1 has been PROVEN to be faster then a ford gt, around the nurburgring and faster in a straight line as well, however even tho a ford gt is sexy as hell, they are not in production anymore and the zr1 is considerably a better value!
neerredd 10 months ago 6
that guy in the cobra cant shift and the vette weighs about 500 to 600 lbs less than the cobra
cwbarrs 1 year ago
That Z06 got heat. Cobra all the way tho
blazinhott112 1 year ago
no offence but i hate people on here with these Terminator Cobra's that dont know how to drive them. When you are racing hold the throttle to the floor when you shift..... you get pulled as soon as you let off the gas. As long as your quick and practice at it you wont hurt nothing. I do it to my 94 Cobra all the time and transmission hasn't gone out yet :)
bigballa2372 1 year ago
@bigballa2372 ..... I don't even know to begin... Jesus Christ...
quickbeeare 1 year ago
@quickbeeare what do you mean you dont know where to begin. The guy is granny shifting the car. When most people race they shift WOT. If he was driving that cobra right those tires would be spinning 1st - 3rd and be going sideways.
bigballa2372 1 year ago
@bigballa2372 Wow. Just wow. Stop playing Need For Speed, kid and get a DL. Yeah, it totally makes sense to over-rev your car even outside of the powerband, and every "true youtube racer" knows that spinning you're wheels is the key to winning (traction is so old school, huh?) Genius, Kid. Just genius.
Yeah, judging by no age listed on your page and fucking Hollywood Undead, I'm willing to bet you don't even have a car, it's pretty obvious. Brilliant, just brilliant, kid.
quickbeeare 1 year ago
@quickbeeare umm you dont overrev ur car dumbass you just dont granny shift it. why do u think that corvette pulled the cobra? LISTEN TO THE FUCKING COBRA SHIFT. my fucking mom can drive that car faster than him. and like i said i got a 94 cobra and my dads got a 91 fox body running 5's in the 1/8. and i know nothing about cars? what do u got bro? a V6 stang?
bigballa2372 1 year ago
@quickbeeare why dont u rewatch the vid while ur at it dude since u know so much. You hear the corvette? All you hear is the motor change pitches when he shifts. You know why? He aint letting off the gas! Then listen to the Cobra. You can tell when he lets off because the supercharger stops. and by the way. Im 17 and probably know more about cars than your dumbass considering I grew up around racing dumbfuck.
bigballa2372 1 year ago
weight and transmission performance goes a long way. cant touch that car, even if its stock.
renzokata 1 year ago
corvettes might be faster than cobra's but at least cobra's have the balls to stick up with a corvette
zamudio96 1 year ago
how is it possible that a 496whp car pulls on a 590whp car? unless that zo6 is lighter or that guy in the cobra is lying about what his car really puts out. witch happends a lot in the streets people lying about what they have.
ls1killa 1 year ago
The Z06 is 3130 lbs and the Cobra is 3665 - weight is the reason. Seems a lot of people don't realize how much weight affects performance.
03CobraRick 1 year ago
@03CobraRick ur just a horrible shifter i have a SRT 8 jeep and i've crushed vettes and porshes
mnurse18 1 year ago
@03CobraRick yep you're 100% correct. Weight is often one of the most over looked aspects on a car. Cobra's are actually quite heavy for what they are as opposed to the Z06 that is super light for what it is. It's hard to beat the new Z06's stock much less when they are modded. Between the power to weight ratio and the awesome aerodynamics. They are a bad ass machine, but the cobra makes me want to nut in my pants too lol.
rextuner03 1 year ago
@03CobraRick ...weight AND aerodynamics....vette is a hot knife through butter, cobra is a parachute...
vegetaum 1 year ago
@vegetaum Actually the coefficient of drag for the Z06 is .34, and .32 for the Cobra - so the total drag force acting on both cars is very similar, although the Vette appears to be more aerodynamic. However, the Z06 is creating much more downforce than the Cobra, and downforce = induced drag.
03CobraRick 1 year ago
@03CobraRick i like people like you :) you do your research before posting something
TheZohaun 1 year ago
@TheZohaun I appreciate it man! I try to do that, and leave any personal bias out of things, I try and keep it as factual and objective as possible
03CobraRick 1 year ago
@03CobraRick well if you ever feel like spitting some cobra knowledge at me im all ears haha i love reading about this shit. the 03-04 svt cobra is my favorite car. im getting a mustang tattoo tomorrow haha
TheZohaun 1 year ago
@03CobraRick No, the Z06's Coefficient of drag is .31cd. Not sure were you got your info from. Also the Z06 still produces some lift at high speed, just not as much as a cobra and is why you see video's of the Z06 just crusin along at 190mph without issue.
jhoe1upGuy 1 year ago
@jhoe1upGuy The majority of sites cite it as being .34 - as does GM. I believe the C5 Z06 is .31.
03CobraRick 1 year ago
@03CobraRick No, the C5 Z06 was .29 cd, the base c6 is .289 cd, the Z06 is .31cd. Ever wonder why it takes cobra's and GTO's 100rwhp more to keep up with the Z06's(and sometimes not even keep up)? Cd, better gearing, weight. In that order when doing roll ons.
jhoe1upGuy 9 months ago
@vegetaum Yes but it's a coefficient, not a constant. That number must be multiplied by the surface air of the object. The Vette has a smaller front end, so its coefficient is muliplied by a lower number. The drag coefficient may be similar, but drag area is much different.
galantvr4wd 1 year ago
@ls1killa its b/c of 2 things. #1 the corvette is lighter with better front to rear balance. its 51/49 front to rear (almost perfect). the Cobra has an iron block 4.6l engine which adds tons of weight to the front end, therefore bad weight transfer. #2 the corvette's drivetrain is built with better quality. also there is less power loss from the crank to the tires. on top of all that, it is more aerodynamic and is built for high speeds.
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
sweet fucking vette...
WersOner 1 year ago
im a ford man allll the way but DAMN that vette is quick!
aslugger07 1 year ago
that and the driver in the cobra aint used to the power....still that vette is sweet
MustangsMan 1 year ago
damn i just love how wide those tires are on the vette the biggest you can get on the stang is 315
josecrosscountry 1 year ago
@josecrosscountry That's what you think.
GuizaAdrian 1 year ago
Corvettes are amzingly desinged machine t a true American Pride, and as for the Cobra, another amazing car... A Termi has a lot of potential, just as a z06... Great vid, Gret race, FABOLOUS CARS!
Roger0416 1 year ago
both of these beasts are sick... and should be out there together smokin jap garbage
mattbmx1234 1 year ago 26
exactly, instead of all this agrueing over which car is better, just agree that there both badass AMERCAN BUILT cars
aslugger07 1 year ago 33
@aslugger07 i love u :) i wuda said the same thing
SySTeM4T1c 1 year ago
@mattbmx1234 totally agree
MegaDurango01 1 year ago
if i was to win the lottery, c6 z06 could be my car of choice
WestheLegend 1 year ago
I have yet to see a video on this whole website with a C6 Z06 losing a race
kingssuck06 2 years ago
He's won/lost a few over the past year or so, I just haven't filmed any. We really don't care who wins or loses, we just do it for fun and to compare the performance. Most every car we set the C6 Z up with was nearly even or the Z was faster. He's lost to a 730 RWHP C6 Z, a TT'd E36 M3 and a ~620 AWHP Evo. They're certainly not unbeatable, it's just hard to find cars that are a good match for a modded Z.
03CobraRick 2 years ago
Agree, that's kinda what i was getting at. C6 Z06 is a hell of a car. It seems like you got the idea i was insulting your mustang, which is not the case at all. IMO, a terminator cobra was the best car money could buy. 400HP stock, and a block and forged internals good for 1000HP, doesn't get any better than that.
kingssuck06 2 years ago
@kingssuck06
Your right Man! The z06 s such a beast! Even stock it will rarely lose to even heavily modded cars. Light weight, perfect weight distribution, killer hp and torque curve, I would say almost the perfect car. Love that stang too, I love them all.
y4utalktome 1 year ago
what do you have to do to a c6 Z06 to get 500rwhp?
would i/h/e, cams, chip do it?...
sorry, just not familiar with vettes...
lobzdik 2 years ago
The Z has an intake, headers, catted x-pipe and a tune. They make about 450-460 RWHP stock for comparison.
03CobraRick 2 years ago
whaaaat, that's all? I didn't think they make so much HP at the wheels, stock, considering 505BHP...that's only 10% power loss from the crank to the wheels?
lobzdik 2 years ago
It's underrated - they're closer to 530 BHP given the RWHP that they make stock.
His dyno'd 459 RWHP stock on a DynoJet.
03CobraRick 2 years ago
oh really? what's it with american cars being underrated all the time lol.
that's pretty dam good, wish that car would cost in Oz what it costs in US...
lobzdik 2 years ago
Kashmir from Led Zeeplin
ipjunky 2 years ago
wat is the name of this song?????? and nice vid fat ass cars
angelitopr121 2 years ago
nice cARz n gud race bruh...
SVTJAVY 2 years ago
not bad comparing the weight and power difference. nice cars
muscle2imporrt 2 years ago
oh says it in the description.. lol mybad
Built4ford 2 years ago
both nasty cars... whats this song in begining
Built4ford 2 years ago
Z06 rules
SuperBeatnuts 2 years ago
Both are badazz cars... Vette wins with less power cause it's almost a 1000lbs lighter... power to weight ratio... also, is there a passenger in the vette to offset the extra passenger in the cobra that is doing the fliming? Only fair to have a passenger in both right? I'm waiting for my 6.7 iron block ls1 with t76 to come out the shop myself :)
p99ta 2 years ago
really its only about 700. but those c6z's are beasts. I have an c5z and its pretty bad but those new ones are on a whole other level like its not even funny.80-100hp differential in a c5 to cobra is a darn good race. you can see here with 100 hp difference the zo6 just leaves him after the first shift.
nannygoat415 2 years ago
Nice but of course Vettes have better aerodinamics and weight less. Overall Vettes are better racing cars........But I just love the Termis!!!
joseEMO 2 years ago
Awesome cars both of them. I have seen other videos with the corvette down 80- 100 hp with SC Cobras and the Corvette still comes out on top. The ZO6 is the ultimate ass kicker. Great video !!!
mattspontiacta 2 years ago
2 bad corvettes never changed style, i swear theyve looked the same since the 70's, cobras r way better
aqualung6000 2 years ago
Is the profanity needed in order to communicate?
04Forester 2 years ago
Take the camera man out of the Cobra and put him in the Vette and it would be a different story!
Lawgiver45 2 years ago
lmao typical
lplswon 2 years ago
There were passengers in both cars, we never film a race unless there's a passenger in the other car to offset the weight disadvantge.
Lankhoss 2 years ago 2
Oh, and my car right now books for only 18k, so fuck your 40k Z06, which is BS, they hold their value, but even if, still less than half. And it's a lot more fun to build a car rather than buy one. I've had a blast building my Terminator, and although, mostly I'm not the underdog, except for Z06's, I was, no more. I spent big on suspension/brakes and weight reduction. I paid big to have my suspension setup. You assume whatever you like, "ASSUME". Come to the circuit where I race & get schooled.
HypnoticSuggestion 2 years ago
I don't blame him for just lettin off it on the 2nd race lol. A Vette is a real sports car, 100 less hp or not, it's gonna be real tough. But IMO, I like the fact the cars are very close in numbers when they're stock, yet $30,000 or so apart. I think I'll take my two Terminators lol. Nah I like the Z06, it kiils the Euro's, and we need that.
But honestly, that 100hp should really have done better, IMO. Maybe it was a little driver issue, but.. Which KB? I've got the 2.8H, I doubt he does..
HypnoticSuggestion 2 years ago
First off, this guy "only" made 85 - 90 more hp than me. Secondly, he was an inexperienced driver so it did look worse than it should have. Thirdly, there's ANOTHER video of me racing a 604rwhp KB Cobra and I still edged him out. And trust me, you get your money's worth in WARRANTEED factory parts in the extra 30k you spend in the Z06. Anyone who has actually driven the two cars and has an objective opinon would agree.
Lankhoss 2 years ago
WHAT?? You get your money's worth for the extra 30k you spent because of the warranty? Dude you yourself said the car's tuned, where's the warranty now?? I'll take another identical 2004 Terminator, for the same price I'd have payed for 1 Z06, period.
Not everyone spends all their money on power, I spent big on suspension, then it's setup, gears, clutch/flywheel, weight reduction, and brakes. I have no problem at my local circuit with Z06's, and my cost is still under 40k. Nonsense.
HypnoticSuggestion 2 years ago
No, dumbass. You get 30k more in both performance and reliability. And even with the car tuned, it's covered under warranty (already had the motor swapped with the mods on it). You obviously haven't driven a C6 Z before. It's miles ahead of the Terminator in EVERY aspect, even if you can mod yours to be as fast. And Cobras aren't NEARLY as reliable as Corvettes are. Also, used C6 Z's are in the 40's now.
Lankhoss 2 years ago
What the hell, you call me a dumbass? You don't even know me... Typical fucking youtube, know it all goddamn troll with a huge ego. You're just pissed off about the cars I own you and all the proof I have on my channel, you jealous ego maniacal presumptuous dick.
First, I have not driven a Z06, only spent time in a friends as a passenger. Second, you think a Terminator can't be modded to beat a Z06 on a Circuit? Well I do...regardless whether you believe me, it's reality, fuck you deal with it
HypnoticSuggestion 2 years ago
spray the kb : )
IMsRollTRX450R 2 years ago
That sounds an awful lot like a pullied eaton my buddies got a whipple Cobra and he kills Zo6s all day long modded or other wise hes putting down 630 rwp and 590 torq still I love the new Zs both cars are badass
xstork 2 years ago
Dyno the Cobra .....it isnt NEAR what it says. I would say bolt on super "kit". Isnt tuned isnt tested, isnt driven, that Zo6 should have been killed. I am a die hard chevy fan, but the z06 isnt that badass on the street. This one should have been walked.
survivalhelper 2 years ago 2
Seems that you may be misinformed. I've been in the Z06 while racing several other ~580-600 RWHP KB Cobra's and they are always about dead even, the Cobra's usually fall behind a half car to a car due to gearing differences at the start of the race and then remain in that position for the rest of the race. They are very evenly matched. Remember, this isn't a stock C6 Z06, it's about 50 RWHP up from stock. A 525 RWHP Cobra is about even with a stock Z06.
03CobraRick 2 years ago
"03CobraRick" You're about dead on, before I got the 2.8H I was running a different setup, 518whp, and I was always even. Since the 2.8H I had the car setup to run circuit, so it's got racing suspension, Brembo's, weight reduction, geared, FAR too much to list. It's setup to beat Z06/Vipers on the circuit, at 1/3 the Cost. (Car Accident Settlement paid for it, had a '99 crushed ) I also race my VR6 and Saab at the circuit.
Drag racing is BS, go circuit, you'll never drag again, ever, I promise.
HypnoticSuggestion 2 years ago
CobraRick, can you please tell me your modds? Which KB do you have, who tuned it? Are you running pump? (You realize you have have it set to use two tuned, and go out and race ppl using 110 octane right? You'd see well over 700hp easy.
Anyways I'd like to know your modds, and your honest opinion why you lost, because I did the match (I'm a physics nerd) and you should have won, although I didn't figure in Aerodynamics, but they shouldn't matter in such a "quick, start/done" race. Any info thx.
HypnoticSuggestion 2 years ago
Its a old video it would have been one of the smaller kbs
chadsauto88 2 years ago 2
the numbers do add up... ive seen it time and time again a cobra with 100 more horses and usually you get a dead even run with these new vetts. vette is lighter and has better aero dynamics thats makes up for its lower hp rating. i thought the kb would hang better too but maybe the guy in the vette is shifting like a madman. good race either way. i prefer ford but i give respect to the bow ties ;)
bluecapone 2 years ago
Yes, 100 hp more IS going to make up the 500 lbs more. Look at the video Whipple Cobra vs C6 Z06 and then start talking. Like I said the numbers dont add up here.
fnfast1 2 years ago
He's raced several other ~580-600 RWHP Cobra's since this video and they are always about dead even.
03CobraRick 2 years ago
probebly superchrger BELT SLIPPING = horsepower loss in the cobra
fnfast1 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
probably the fact that ford makes it... so its shit..
SpecialSause2 2 years ago
there was no belt slip
ag11hockey 2 years ago
Something is not right . I know cobra is heavier but if it has 100 more hp it should pull on the vette very easy. The numbers dont add up here...
fnfast1 2 years ago
100hp more isnt gonna make up for the roughly 500lbs of weight difference
yfzfofitty06 2 years ago
also aerodynamics play a huge part in it too. especially at speeds like that
ag11hockey 2 years ago
that jus goes to show you how restricted the montrous 7liter beast is from the factory a tune on the car and its a totally different animal. what people dont realize is fords approach to more power which is the forced induction easily adds 200+lbs to the car the weight is fromt the charger all its components and of course the iron block. the N/A z06 is an incredible car! and drag racing isnt where the z06 really shines its on the track where it feels most at home!
yfzfofitty06 2 years ago
I have to give the Cobra Credit... although its got 94 more hp, it also weighs 3 or 400lbs more and had a camera guy in the car. Both cars hold there own, but they dont call it the Terminator for nothing.
JayGeePee1 2 years ago
I love my cobra, but I have to give the Z06 some props, that is one sick car.
pctrobia 2 years ago 2
I'd trade my Cobra for a C6 Z any day, it's such a nicer/better car all around performance car. Although the Cobra is a heck of a lot of fun on the street, they're both awesome cars.
03CobraRick 2 years ago
Bad ASS
elint 2 years ago
listen to that kb. god damn it's sexy
585balla 2 years ago
who the hell starts in 3rd gear at 45 mph....Cobra needs a driver....but thats one sweet ass vet...this coming from a Mustang owner for the last 20 years....I dig the vets, but piss on the camaros...
scottgt6 2 years ago
this is all wrong...
first of all mustangs are 1/4 mile cars, this should be done on a track.
second of all, mustangs are in a different class than a vetter - its not a touring coupe. Now put a z06 against a GT40 then we'll see what happens.
bcut 2 years ago
What a stupid statement. That throws your whole poitn of different car classes out of the window, idiot. LETS PUT A HONDA AGAINST A FERRARI! YAH YAH!
mkkraze 2 years ago
NO - your statement is stupid - STUPID! I guess you don't know who John Force is and how he kicks ass with mustangs in a quarter mile huh? I guess you've never seen LeMans racing and how vettes perfrom in touring races huh?
stupid ass
bcut 2 years ago
aw u mad?
mkkraze 2 years ago
no. I'm sorry - I didn't mean it. lol
I love mortal kombat! Sub-Zero is the best!
bcut 2 years ago
sweet race.. both cars are sick
YUCKFEEZY 2 years ago
Nice video and nice vett, but the cobra owner is ridiculous.... power to weight should be a really close race. The better driver won this one.... I love cobras so much
charles54l 2 years ago
put the cobra some slicks like the vet has
RaNdY04gt 2 years ago
well i said 400 lbs because a Z06 with full options is a little over 3200 lbs and the cobra coupe will always be 3665 because there are no options for that year. either way i still cant see how this race turned out that way
svtcobra1992 2 years ago
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSST!!!!!!!!
BDthizzin 2 years ago
WOW come on the cobra driver loses 1/2 a car every shift! and i think either the cobra or vette is lying about its dyno numbers because even though the cobra is about 400 lbs more i just cant see how 94hp more in the cobra cant ATLEAST even it out =/
svtcobra1992 2 years ago
400? try 500+
98Snake 2 years ago
The Vette is much lighter(quicker takeoff) and more aerodynamic(better at highway speed) than the Mustang, plus the Vette also has a much better drivetrain setup(i.e. taller tranny gears and stiffer clutch) so this looks about right for a highway run. I think that Cobra did a damn good job at hanging with a C6 Z06. There are not many cars that can...
gixxerfanatic 2 years ago
lol shit out ya damn mind u think that cobra gonna beat a vette. lol na jk but really. u need something to stretch out ur gears. he was still in 2nd when cobra was goin to 4th
liltaz1225 2 years ago
cobra needs driver mod... shifts to slow ;) not hating either car both are badass but with a diff driver I am positive there would have been a different outcome.
bluecapone 2 years ago
Cobra's pushing 590rwhp and gets taken by 100hp less Vette??? I call bullshit sounds like they lied to you at they dyno I pull vettes with nitrous and I'm nowhere near 590rwhp
printyayo 2 years ago