Only if Alexander the Great was a greek warrior (still, we can't know for sure), doesn't mean that Macedonia is greek. MACEDONIA is MACEDONIAN. It is independent, sovereign state now, so deal with it. And plus, Kiro Gligorov was the first democratically elected president of Macedonia, not 'Skopjan' prime minister. And don't act stupid, start calling Macedonia with it's real name, MACEDONIA. Act human.
Im albanian and i dont like very much greeks but this time they are right Alexander was helenic-greek warrior and you have to admit it you are slavic people so dont legate yourself to the historical macedonia of alexander cuz that means to manipulate the history
the name of our country is macedonia let's say at least from 1903. your macedonia is from eighties or nineties? what was it before? northern greece? you seem like cheating on cards. he was a traitor and now he is a one eyed traitor. македонија на македонците!
A DRIVER FROM SKOPJE SUDDENLY STOPS HIS CAR IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY POPULAR STREET IN THESSALONIKI DESTRUCTING THE TRAFFIC BEHIND HIM , HE IS LOST SO HE OPENS A MAP, A GREEK TAXI DRIVER GETS OF HIS TAXI APPROACHES HIM AGGRESSIVELY AND SAYS '' WHY THE HELL YOU NEED A MAP?..DONT YOU KNOW YOUR OWN CITY?" ..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
@ThePetardaProduction yes i do cause i live in Athens...hehehehhehe....you stupid fuck!!!listen to your ex - leader, stop halucinating!!!!!you are slavs.... Alexander the Great was Macedonian (a greek tribe), he spoke greek, worshiped the same gods as the rest of the greeks and his role model was Achilleas...he also had a greek teacher, his mother Olympias was greek and his birth place is in greece...READ SOME FUCKING HISTORY AND STOP BELIEVING TO WHAT YOUR PROPAGANDIDTIC GOVERMENT IS SAYING!!!
@ThePetardaProduction hehehhehehehehe.man you wouldn't see truth even if it hits you in the face, you can call yourself however you want BUT YOU ARE NOT MACEDONIANS YOU ARE SLAVS, GET OVER IT, STOP LYING, DISTORTING HISTORY AND BEING IGNORANT.THIS MAN WAS THE PRESIDENT OF YOUR COUNTRY.
@ThePetardaProduction yes stupid but he is the man who 2.500.000 fakedonians voted for prime minister...so i think he has the power..hahahahahahahaha
and by the way 2.500.000 ppl in skopje with 50% be albanians, 300.000 are Greeks, 700.000 are bulgarians and 250.000 being fyromians (ex-bulgarians0...looooooooooooooooool..this is your nation..haahaha
@ThePetardaProduction first of all learn Alexander's language...because my english aren't good enough so in Alexander's language which i spEak perfect as he was Greek as me we can speak easily....second can't be Macedonian because i'm from Epirus..Macedonians are the GREEKS who live in north Greece..as Peloponisians are the GREEKS who live in south Greece..that's all...i know you want to be someone but you'll never be Macedonian because this is a GREEK region..
@ThePetardaProduction AND BY THE WAY OUR NAME IS NOT NEGOTIABLE AS YOUR'S...AHAHAHHAAHAHHAHA
OUR COUNTRY'S BOARDERS AREN' NEGOTIABLE AS YOUR'S...AND IN A FEW YEARS "YOUR" LAND WILL GO TO WHERE IT BELONGS..BULGARY, GREECE AND A LITTLE TO ALBANIA..THE MOST WILL GO TO BULGARY SO GO TO TAKE BULGARIAN IDENTITY AS SO MANY OF YOUR MINISTER HAD DONE ALREADY....
@panosch7 Macedonia will exist for as long as Russia exists, the Russians took their Cyrillic alphabet from the Macedonians and the Orthodox Christian religion from the Macedonians. Macedonia is the Holy Land of the Slavs. It is better that an ignorant person like yourself does not involve himself with cultural/ political issues of which they have no knowledge. We are in the balkan from the 6th Century, modern Greece was created 1832, we have no reason or desire to appease you.
@constanceone hahA.omg a stupid monkeyninja TELLS THE TRUTH...EXACTLY MY DEAR MONKEY...YOU SLAVS ARE IN BALKAN REGION FROM 6TH CENTURY...BUT REAL MACEDONIANS EXISTED HERE LONG TIME AGO...THNX FOR TELLING THE TRUTH..SECOND KYRIL AND METHODIUS WERE GREEKS FORM THESALONIKI..AND THEY WROTE YOUR ALPHABET NOT IN MACEDONIA...MACEDONIA HAS IT'S GREEK ALPHABET..THEY WROTE THIS ALPHABET FOR SLAVS.GREEK NATION EXISTS FOR 4000 YEARS AND NOT FROM 1832...THIS TIME IS WHEN WE SET FREE FROM OTTOMANS..STUPID
@panosch7 Solun or Thessalonika was the capital of Macedonia prior to the partition of Macedonia by the Treaty of Bucharest 1913. You are a resettled Greek/ Turkish Christian and not a Macedonian. How do you explain 'the assassins of thessaloniki 1903' my friend, these were slav macedonian revolutionaries and never greco- men friend. But, though you are an immigrant to Macedonia we welcome you to our country as christians and human beings my friend, but look more carefully at the history. Health
@constanceone Solun is a Bulgarian name. Their has never existed a modern Macedonian nation.
Before 1913 the area was ruled by the Turks for 500 years. Before the Turks the north belonged to the Bulgarian empire and Fyroms ancestors like Tsar Samuil was the enemy of the Byzantine Greeks in the south.
The people in fyrom was self determined Bulgarians until less than 100 years ago. The "Macedonian' nation is just a fairytale created by extremist nationalist. and not supported by any historian
@constanceone "Saints Cyril and Methodius (Greek: Κύριλλος καὶ Μεθόδιος, Old Church Slavonic: Кѷриллъ и Меѳодїи[more]) were two Byzantine Greek brothers born in Thessaloniki in the 9th century.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] They became missionaries of Christianity among the Slavic peoples of Bulgaria, ..They are credited with devising the Glagolitic alphabet, the first alphabet used to transcribe Old Church Slavonic."
Your history knowledge is not based on facts. Start to read some real history
Macedonia was under Ottoman occupation till 1913, when by the Treaty of Bucharest, it was divided into neighboring states. The Aegean Macedonia was awarded to Greece, Pirin in Bulgaria and the Vardar part of Macedonia (today's Macedonia) became a part of Serbia. Now Macedonia is a independent, sovereign state. That's just the way it is. And all i want is peace between Macedonia and its neighbor Greece. Why don't we try to have that?
@anea2508 greece denies macedonia, the slavs have lived in the balkan and macedonian from the 6th century till today, why would anybody insist on changing the name. if you are greek, why not attend the athen public library or university library, search the newspaper archive to consider your countries coverage of the large earthquake in skopje, macedonia in 1963. you will realise that your newspapers in 1963 had no problem with the name macedonia.
@anea2508 if macedonia is renamed north macedonia or upper macedonia, how will it help greece to deny the history of macedonia or the partition of macedonia (1913). SFR Jugoslavia was a founding member of the UN, SR Macedonia was a founding republic of Jugoslavia, the UN is well aware of macedonia.
@hitler177 >> Fyrom >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
'We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great.' said FYROM'S Ambassador in Washington, Mrs. Ljubica Acevshka .
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov
You cant even spell english, so i guess you dont speak Greek right MonkeydonianWarrior? But, how come? Alexander was speaking greek, so... if you dont... you must be A SLAV!
ha ha ha that is funny greeks being against slavs telling them that they came in the region in 6th century etc but when they argue with albanians the slavs r they brothers that is funny i must admit. everyone thinks that is more supperior than the other more pure than the other YOU ALL MIXED MORONS AND STOP SPREADING HATE WE ALL HUMANS AND DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE . HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE
why would you believe you are a MACEdonian when the first leader of this fake country created in 1945 does not believe it??? SLAVS infested the Balkans in the 6th century. That is basic common European Knowledge!!! PROVE OTHERWISE YOU STUPID INFERIOR SLAV!!!
so we still wait for an intelligent answer!!! YOU ARE A DIRTY SLAV, YOUR PEOPLE MISSED ALEXANDER BY 900 years!!! 300 BC to 600 AD ! DO THE MATH SLAV!!! 300 + 600= 900 YEARS!!! EVEN A DUMB SLAV INFERIOR LIKE YOURSELF CANT' COME UP WITH A SIMPLE RESPONSE!!!
if slavs wasn't exist u will never be borned... who made the electryty SLAVS, who get the first man in university SLAVS, who save the world from hitler SLAVS!!!!!!!!!!! now go fuck your sick brain
OMG!!! do you really know what are you talking about? you just can believe the things you just said. you are really funny. cmon tell that you are kidding
hahah what?!?! truth hurts, u told me cuz I'm slav, and I said yes and I'm proud slav, so whats the problem now, what am I now tunguzian, I'm not more slav, mabby now u like be slav???
SLAVIC POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MACEDONIA RUSSIA SERBIA CROATIA BOSNA SLOVENIA SLOVAKIA POLAND CZECH UKRAINE BELARUSSIA ---- against nato and eu gays!!!!!!!! u are just poor gypsy cry cry, u have nothing with ancient spartans, athens, krit, u have just come on balkan from ethiopia and kill that people
Russia,Ukraine,Belorus,Serbia,Croatia,Slovenia,Poland,Slovakia,and Cech republic,slovenia,Bulagaria are purely slavs,you are mix of Albanians,Bulgars(slavs) and Gypsies,if you knew history,Greece came from north,prolly Uralic mountains a thousands of years ago.And from your comments i can realise how stupid you are,All the countries you mentioned except Russia and Serbia are in EU/NATO or try to join them,they are prostituting themselfs to US,Only Russia,Belorus,Serbia are still against them.
about eu and nato that is polittitans stuff but not on people... yes we are gupsys but dont forgoth the first people are gupsys from africa so that means cuz u are after us... and u are worst than gupsy u are maden in labaratory synthetyc pice of shit
Haha you idiot,Gypsies came from India,thats how educated you are....And politics is for everyone,everyone can have his opinion in it,because we have democracy,maybe you dont have it in Skopje.
no u are gupsys but u aren't from india... so how dumb fuck u are indians are one of the smartest people in the world... duno about ur democracy, u made genocide over macedonians, and now u assimilating them
You idiot how cn we do Genocide to our own people?(Macedonia is Greek and always was and will be) you monkey country is called Skopje or Vardashka,and ofc you dont know what is democracy,you dont have freedom in knowledge you are being fed with propaganda,if someone is telling the truth your goverment tries to kill him(like kiro gligorov) lsn to your first Prime minister he ws talking the truth.And once again go read some history gypsies come from India,and i didnt say that the lack intelligence
ahhh... yeah u are right u steal 51% of our land that is over 50% and u can call your self macedonians?! no u can't u didn;t buy it u steal it!!!!!!!!! die nazi die!!!!!!!!!! u are scaring from truth and trying to hide that tipicle nazi pice of shits
hahah Macedonia was always Greek,we never stole your land,Alexander always was proud of his Greek roots,he talked Greek,his teacher was Greek(Aristotel)he spread Hellenism.And Greeks are in this land for thousands of years,you were behind the Uralic mountains back then with rest of the Slavs,By the way remind why do you talk a Bulgarian dialect? Original Macedonians talk Greek,go see the ancient coins of Alexander and you will see.
@MacedonianWarior Im so proud you read Greek philosophy and retorics!! Demosthenes was an Athenian man,Democracy and voting was born in Athens,Greek city-states always had wars between them,and they accused each other of things like being barbarian and stuff,Demosthenes accused Alexander for being barbarian because he destroyed Thoebes,also Athenians accused Spartans for many things that makes them being less Greek?Alexander himself said he is Greek and talked ancient Greek. Give a better shot.
Yeah Slavs achieved many things thats true but,Who gave the slavs the Slavic Alphabet?Kurilus and Methodious,2 Greek brothers, Who did Develop Arts,science,history, and many more luxuries that western civilizations enjoy,Greeks contributed most to the western people than any other nation. But yes Slavs did achieve many things as well,Mostly Russia and Serbia(Nicolas Tesla) But Fyromanians are Slavs they have no bond between Alexander and Macedonia,Macedonia IS GREECE,sleep on it and stop posting
TYPE GOOGLE SEARCH= "INFERIOR SLAVIC PEOPLE" You will get the quote from Adolph Hitler.......Please I would love to hear your response on what you think of this!!! If you were so proud of being a SLAV you would forget this FANTASY of being Macedonian!!! This era 300 BC to 250 AD is refered to historically as THE HELLINISTIC AGE!!! Go to any University Curriculum and you will see for yourself you STUPID BULGARIAN SLAVIC INFERIOR!!!!!!!!
-.- who the fuck say cuz we aren't slavs?? YES WE ARE... AND WE ARE PROUD OF IT, if we SLAVS(Russians 80%) wasn't, hitler will still fucking your big fat gayreek neonazi ass, u will havne't electryti(Никола Тесла SLAV), u will don't know cuz earth is elipsoide(cuz the first man who leave the earth is Јуриј Гагарин> SLAV)
actualy i'm not pussy, i know cuz u are gay and have gay instincts but pussy is person with 3 holes not with 2 hahahha u fuckiong nerd u even don't know about naturaly and u are talking for antique :S:S
yeah truth hurts we aren NAZIS LIKE U HERE IS DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!
Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery....
Philip II of Macedon, (Greek: Φίλιππος Β' ο Μακεδών — φίλος = friend + ίππος = horse[1] — transliterated Philippos (help·info) 382 336 BC, was a Greek[2][3] king (basileus) of Macedon from 359 BC until his assassination in 336. He was the father of Alexander the Great and Philip III.
@MacedonianWarior gives us a break with Δημοσθένης..he was so localist..he used to hate everything non Athenian..why dont we start to talk about ISOKRATIS or others instead? no convenient to skopians..Δημοσθένης bla bla bla..all u know about is Δημοσθένης.
@MacedonianWarior Demosthenes was one person who allways didn't like the presure of Makedonian Kingdom to Athens. But the ancient scrolls refers names of Makedonian athletes who won in Olympic Games. And the all world knows that in ancient times in those Games participate only athletes from Greek cities and Kingdoms,and no barbarians as they called the non Greeks as Persians,Egyptians,Dacians,Romans etc. You are welcome to visited the scrolls in the musuem of Thessaloniki.
aki3001, how stupid can you be? Learn sme history and do not say bushits! Even Alexander was saying "For the loly of Greece!"
As we all know, Greeks were racists!!! In the ancient Olympic Games for example, NOONE could participate if he would not be PURE Greek, even if your great great grandpa would be Persian! Macedonians participated normaly at these games and also Filipos, father of "Megas Aleksandros" (not Alexandrovski or Alexandrovic), had won many games in the Olympic Games!
have you ever read your greek Demosthen, he was calling Philip Macedoinan the father od the Alexander the third Macedonian a barbarian, non greek, MACEDONIAN BARBARIAN . you stupid greeks with arabian origin.
I am bored repling always to the same stupid stuff, it seems that you did NOT read our greek Demosthen because if you did you would understand why he said that.
The Zelef as President of the Republic on 20 June 1993 in Sweden, when asked by a journalist of the Swedish newspaper Svenska Dugbladed for «Macedonian nation» said:
«Macedonian nation created after the War Crime of Komintern is a crime of TITOISM and Stalinism».
The statement of former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is speaking at an international conference in Paris in 1992, said:
«Greece is right about the name. I say this because I know history, something that ministers in Washington are not aware of . The powerful weapon for greece is her history. I have to say that Greece did not use the weapon , ie history »
Do u have the speeches of Alexander the Great? Go & study Herodotus, Plutarch or even read what Ceasar or the Persians say about Alexander the Great. Not only they call him Greek, even he calls himself Greek. If you don't have them i can give you the links - translated in English from Amerikans & German historians - attested copies.
One thing I know. You vote for those people, you deserve them. Learn some history fs you still want to hold the word "Republic" (english word for "democracy") in your name.
No, of course it's not our right to decide your name. But as long as your it is offensive to our history, we can put a veto for a lifetime. It's simple.
Sparta, Athens, Thiva, Makedonia etc were different states. But they were proud of being Greeks. When hostile nations were threatening Greece they were fighting the enemy UNITED!!!
All these states were speaking Greek!!! Because they were Greeks!!! As in the past times, Spartans, Athenians, Makedonians speak Greek-feel Greek!!!
I would agree with you, but these names have already been rejected by Skopje. Obviously their identity crisis is really deep. This is why thay are swaying back and forth from Alexander the Great to their eventual slavic origin. I try to understand and respect their feelings.
look everyone, I am telling this to everyone which says "greece-Greeks --- macedonia-macedonians"the territory of macedonia ,is greek !macedonia is TRIBE of Greece and it is NOT another nation!
Anyway, what shall we do with the brainwashed?! That's a real issues, you know. They are no longer Bulgarians. I am sure they will continue to call themselves 'Macedonians', whatever happens. Because for them it's not only a question of name, it's a question of identity!! I don't believe they will be willing to change it by any means...
Thanks. But the problem is, we can't wait until 'hell freezes over' to settle the issue... There must be a kind of compromise from both sides. Who? And how?
Oh thank you expert. I note your profound knowledge... Then you should propose a solution to the Macedonian issue. "Alexander the Great fights against Greeks" is not enough.
I have one solution: Why they do not call: Makslavia or Slavomakedonia... That can be acceptable, because they are not tribe of Ancient macedonians, but they stay in their territories...
There are THOUSENDS of greeks who say that GREECE WAS IS AND WILL BE MACEDONIA just bakojani is wise enough and frightens them that if they open their mouth they'll go to prison or smth..and everybody here knows that this komunist's life is based on lies since birthdate so everything he tells has nothing to do with the truth or the reality...so greece do what you want you never get out history...ofc if you need a hand you can always count on this jerk in the vid...:)
the flags colour isent a proper argument, America & France have blue, red & white colours in their flag, does that mean that they are slavs??? of course no, if you people think that you will take our land then you are mistaken your countrys name should be vardaska. Macedonia was is & will always be Greek
macedonia was the only country that broke out of yugoslavia politicaly, with a majority votes. THE people didnt feel a connection between them and the rest of the countries.
look at the flags.
you know how the macedonian look like.
serbia, slovenia, russia, croatia, bosnia, all of the same colours, blue, white and red. this is slavic colours.
God only knows,how much money he took for saying this....... btw he is also old,don't know what is saying. And why don't you make interview on some REAL macedonians to hear what they will say??
I am serbian, by the way. And there ara very small number of bulgarians in Macedonia, you are free to be whatever you choose. no one is stilling your history, just you dont know how to share common history.
abe macete se kolku sakate bezveze da pcuete:stupid siptari, smrt siptari, i slicno, dobro, ve razbiram, sto kazete drugo. Ali ova e vistinata, ovoj rec na kiro za slavo makedoncite. Deka nemat vrska so alexandrovata civilizacija, i tn.....
The first Macedonian state emerged in the 8th or early 7th century BC under the Argead Dynasty, who migrated to the region from the Greek city of Argos in Peloponnesus (thus the name Argead).
y does the truth bother u so much u brainwashed idiot
He didn't know anything about history when he was saying that he was "macedonian". But he obviously had a truth crisis.
As for propaganda, you are the ones who believe EVERY piece of bullshit that is thrown your way, and a blatant example of this is the "sub-Saharan" nazi bullshit about the origin of Greeks.
we didn't made that test that test is made by the France and the USA together u don't want to believe coz it's making u some other people that u r saying
France and the USA together? LOL man... A group of "scientists" under Villena did it. Here are their names. Dimitroski, Pacho, Moscoso, Casado, Redondo, Varela, Blagoevska, Zdravkovska and Laso. I got this info from one of your people. But of course, this "research" was discredited. Now you are trying to put prestige in that bulls**t by saying tha ttwo big COUNTRIES did this? For God's sake.
Do you have an internet link? I would like to see it. (if you are posting an internet link here, just put gaps between each letter, otherwise youtube will not accept it).
they are in pdf files u must download them if u want to read them if u want to download just go to _history_of_macedonia_._org_ (dont put the lines in the browser)there u can read just the first reasearch but for the full reasearch and the second reasearch u will must download them
h t t p : / / w w w . h is toryo f macedonia . org / ConciseMacedonia / Y _ H romosom es . pdf
I looked at it, and I did not see anywhere any reference to African chromosomes (I made a search for the words Africa and African).
I am no expert, but From what I read here h t t p : / / modern -macedonian- history . blogspot . c o m / this study is taken into account and it just shows the difference between Slavic and Greek populations.
However, in the link that I gave you, there is this point "The levels of the R1a1 haplotype, associated by some with Slavic migrations, [3] have been found to be less than 12% (by way of comparison the relevant percentage for Syria is 10% and Poland 60%). [4]This confirms other studies that disprove the thesis that the Greeks have mingled substantially with Slavic people." if you look at the bibliography of [4], you will see that it is exactly this article that you mention, which proves
the genetic continuity of the Greeks, and the fact that there is minimal igenetic interaction between the Greeks (even thos of northern Greece) and the Slavs. Therefore, there can be no Skopian minority in Greece, based on this genetic research.
I am bored for the slavovardaskian stupidity they never answer in simple questions..they do not care about historical facts that is why they always start saying"fuck greece,fuckgreece" answer to me slavoskopjans the question below(if you want you can press the second or the third or the fourth..you can NOT understand EVEN ONE of them
Because slavoskopjan dare even to speak,I will ask for 59th time for one skopjan to answer clearly in one simply question-test..
press in the google "ancient macedonian coins" go to the images and press the first coin..if you slavoskopjan are true macedonians write to me exactly what it is written on the first coin,the origin of the word and the meaning in english..For beginning I want EXACTLY what it is written with the same character and the meaning in english..
this was said after trmendous presure and treths of embargo by the former tukish province-greece who has recognized macedonia in 1978 as peoples repubilc of macedonia but after the embargo in 1993 this old goat broke up that document in the un by the way greece eve recoknized macedonia in the 1980s and beafor that in their hisotry books stop fyroming me beafor it makes you pay for all your wrongdoing I AM MACEDONIAN AND MY MOTHER IS MACEDOIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only if Alexander the Great was a greek warrior (still, we can't know for sure), doesn't mean that Macedonia is greek. MACEDONIA is MACEDONIAN. It is independent, sovereign state now, so deal with it. And plus, Kiro Gligorov was the first democratically elected president of Macedonia, not 'Skopjan' prime minister. And don't act stupid, start calling Macedonia with it's real name, MACEDONIA. Act human.
anea2508 2 months ago
Im albanian and i dont like very much greeks but this time they are right Alexander was helenic-greek warrior and you have to admit it you are slavic people so dont legate yourself to the historical macedonia of alexander cuz that means to manipulate the history
MegaBlackeagle91 8 months ago 9
@MegaBlackeagle91 +1 from Greece neighbor
kyriakosThessaloniki 4 months ago 2
skopians = bulgarian = slavs / great Alexander = greek = ''macedons'' like trakians, ionians, spartians :)
GRMETAL90 10 months ago 3
@GRMETAL90 arvanitoslavovlaxo+tourkosporoi = ellines
istoriify 5 months ago
the name of our country is macedonia let's say at least from 1903. your macedonia is from eighties or nineties? what was it before? northern greece? you seem like cheating on cards. he was a traitor and now he is a one eyed traitor. македонија на македонците!
eddie1kanobi 1 year ago
A DRIVER FROM SKOPJE SUDDENLY STOPS HIS CAR IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY POPULAR STREET IN THESSALONIKI DESTRUCTING THE TRAFFIC BEHIND HIM , HE IS LOST SO HE OPENS A MAP, A GREEK TAXI DRIVER GETS OF HIS TAXI APPROACHES HIM AGGRESSIVELY AND SAYS '' WHY THE HELL YOU NEED A MAP?..DONT YOU KNOW YOUR OWN CITY?" ..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
HOODEDYOB 1 year ago
@HOODEDYOB Well you said that the driver is from Skopje so how should he know the streets in Solun ? Stupid ...
BTW do you know the streets of Athens ?
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction yes i do cause i live in Athens...hehehehhehe....you stupid fuck!!!listen to your ex - leader, stop halucinating!!!!!you are slavs.... Alexander the Great was Macedonian (a greek tribe), he spoke greek, worshiped the same gods as the rest of the greeks and his role model was Achilleas...he also had a greek teacher, his mother Olympias was greek and his birth place is in greece...READ SOME FUCKING HISTORY AND STOP BELIEVING TO WHAT YOUR PROPAGANDIDTIC GOVERMENT IS SAYING!!!
HOODEDYOB 1 year ago
w0w. some people just cannot see the truth. what more do they need??
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Fuck Gligorov,one man can't change the history of 2,500,000 peoples !
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction hehehhehehehehe.man you wouldn't see truth even if it hits you in the face, you can call yourself however you want BUT YOU ARE NOT MACEDONIANS YOU ARE SLAVS, GET OVER IT, STOP LYING, DISTORTING HISTORY AND BEING IGNORANT.THIS MAN WAS THE PRESIDENT OF YOUR COUNTRY.
HOODEDYOB 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction yes stupid but he is the man who 2.500.000 fakedonians voted for prime minister...so i think he has the power..hahahahahahahaha
and by the way 2.500.000 ppl in skopje with 50% be albanians, 300.000 are Greeks, 700.000 are bulgarians and 250.000 being fyromians (ex-bulgarians0...looooooooooooooooool..this is your nation..haahaha
panosch7 1 year ago
@panosch7 Ahahahah :
300,000 Greeks - wrong ( there are not even 500 greeks in macedonia seen by the last census data )
700,000 Bulgarians - wrong ( there are not even 700 by the last census data )
Skopje has 668,518 inhabitans which 70% are Macedonians ,20% albanians and other etchnic groups ...
250,000 Fyromians - wrong ( there are 0 fyromians by the last census data)
1,500,000 Macedonians in Macedonia - correct
LONG LIVE MACEDONIA !
PS : The Greeks called us Barbarians-non greek state
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction hahahhaa i found the new statistics...
1) there is 1 Greek
2)there is 1 bulgarian
3)there is 2 albanians
4)the rest are all monkeys...
hahahaahaahhahaah
YOU WILL NEVER BE MACEDONIAN...YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ALEXANDER'S LANGUAGE...
CRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY NOW LITTLE MONKEY
panosch7 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction and i have a new name for you...
MONKEYDONINJA....loooool
you will never be Macedonian and I LIKE SO MUCH SEEING YOU CRYYYYYYY FOR YOUR MISERABLE LIFE
panosch7 1 year ago
@panosch7 And new name for you : HELL-ASS ! Or maybe you dont like it,okey,let's go with GAY-REECE !
HAHAHAHA FUCK YOU ! You want to be Macedonian ! Thats the truth !
HOLA !
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE !
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction first of all learn Alexander's language...because my english aren't good enough so in Alexander's language which i spEak perfect as he was Greek as me we can speak easily....second can't be Macedonian because i'm from Epirus..Macedonians are the GREEKS who live in north Greece..as Peloponisians are the GREEKS who live in south Greece..that's all...i know you want to be someone but you'll never be Macedonian because this is a GREEK region..
MONKEYNINJA NA MONKEYDONCITE.HAHA
panosch7 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction AND BY THE WAY OUR NAME IS NOT NEGOTIABLE AS YOUR'S...AHAHAHHAAHAHHAHA
OUR COUNTRY'S BOARDERS AREN' NEGOTIABLE AS YOUR'S...AND IN A FEW YEARS "YOUR" LAND WILL GO TO WHERE IT BELONGS..BULGARY, GREECE AND A LITTLE TO ALBANIA..THE MOST WILL GO TO BULGARY SO GO TO TAKE BULGARIAN IDENTITY AS SO MANY OF YOUR MINISTER HAD DONE ALREADY....
AND AGAIN MONKEYNINJA NA MONKEYDONCITE
HAHAHAHAHA
panosch7 1 year ago
@panosch7 Macedonia will exist for as long as Russia exists, the Russians took their Cyrillic alphabet from the Macedonians and the Orthodox Christian religion from the Macedonians. Macedonia is the Holy Land of the Slavs. It is better that an ignorant person like yourself does not involve himself with cultural/ political issues of which they have no knowledge. We are in the balkan from the 6th Century, modern Greece was created 1832, we have no reason or desire to appease you.
constanceone 11 months ago
@constanceone hahA.omg a stupid monkeyninja TELLS THE TRUTH...EXACTLY MY DEAR MONKEY...YOU SLAVS ARE IN BALKAN REGION FROM 6TH CENTURY...BUT REAL MACEDONIANS EXISTED HERE LONG TIME AGO...THNX FOR TELLING THE TRUTH..SECOND KYRIL AND METHODIUS WERE GREEKS FORM THESALONIKI..AND THEY WROTE YOUR ALPHABET NOT IN MACEDONIA...MACEDONIA HAS IT'S GREEK ALPHABET..THEY WROTE THIS ALPHABET FOR SLAVS.GREEK NATION EXISTS FOR 4000 YEARS AND NOT FROM 1832...THIS TIME IS WHEN WE SET FREE FROM OTTOMANS..STUPID
panosch7 11 months ago
@panosch7 Solun or Thessalonika was the capital of Macedonia prior to the partition of Macedonia by the Treaty of Bucharest 1913. You are a resettled Greek/ Turkish Christian and not a Macedonian. How do you explain 'the assassins of thessaloniki 1903' my friend, these were slav macedonian revolutionaries and never greco- men friend. But, though you are an immigrant to Macedonia we welcome you to our country as christians and human beings my friend, but look more carefully at the history. Health
constanceone 11 months ago
@constanceone Solun is a Bulgarian name. Their has never existed a modern Macedonian nation.
Before 1913 the area was ruled by the Turks for 500 years. Before the Turks the north belonged to the Bulgarian empire and Fyroms ancestors like Tsar Samuil was the enemy of the Byzantine Greeks in the south.
The people in fyrom was self determined Bulgarians until less than 100 years ago. The "Macedonian' nation is just a fairytale created by extremist nationalist. and not supported by any historian
jk34695 10 months ago
@constanceone "Saints Cyril and Methodius (Greek: Κύριλλος καὶ Μεθόδιος, Old Church Slavonic: Кѷриллъ и Меѳодїи[more]) were two Byzantine Greek brothers born in Thessaloniki in the 9th century.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] They became missionaries of Christianity among the Slavic peoples of Bulgaria, ..They are credited with devising the Glagolitic alphabet, the first alphabet used to transcribe Old Church Slavonic."
Your history knowledge is not based on facts. Start to read some real history
jk34695 10 months ago
@constanceone
Macedonia was under Ottoman occupation till 1913, when by the Treaty of Bucharest, it was divided into neighboring states. The Aegean Macedonia was awarded to Greece, Pirin in Bulgaria and the Vardar part of Macedonia (today's Macedonia) became a part of Serbia. Now Macedonia is a independent, sovereign state. That's just the way it is. And all i want is peace between Macedonia and its neighbor Greece. Why don't we try to have that?
anea2508 2 months ago
@anea2508 greece denies macedonia, the slavs have lived in the balkan and macedonian from the 6th century till today, why would anybody insist on changing the name. if you are greek, why not attend the athen public library or university library, search the newspaper archive to consider your countries coverage of the large earthquake in skopje, macedonia in 1963. you will realise that your newspapers in 1963 had no problem with the name macedonia.
constanceone 1 month ago
@constanceone I am from Macedonia and i know that. The thing is they have a problem with the name Macedonia now.
anea2508 1 month ago
@anea2508 if macedonia is renamed north macedonia or upper macedonia, how will it help greece to deny the history of macedonia or the partition of macedonia (1913). SFR Jugoslavia was a founding member of the UN, SR Macedonia was a founding republic of Jugoslavia, the UN is well aware of macedonia.
constanceone 1 month ago
@ThePetardaProduction HEHEHEHEHE, MAN YOU WOULDNT SEE TRUTH NOT EVEN IF IT HIT YOU IN THE FACE!!!!
HOODEDYOB 1 year ago
Just because they wanted a name they started to change the history their leaders must all be burned to death ,skopians beware
tuxedomoon 1 year ago
Posle ova, ne me ni cudi sto probaa da go utepaat..
ivicadzajo 1 year ago
Kiro Gligorov was brided,he's an asshole
hitler177 1 year ago
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@hitler177 >> Fyrom >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
'We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great.' said FYROM'S Ambassador in Washington, Mrs. Ljubica Acevshka .
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
He's speaking Bulgarian...
Tihbialdunav 1 year ago
Hahaha. Dum skopian vardarskans. Retarded sperm of Tito.
Macedonia is Greece.
nmt1969 1 year ago
look at the genes
igenea.com
albanian staistics aren´t known
mjutsu2 1 year ago
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GREAT MOMENTS OF FYROMIAN HISTORY!!!
WHEN:
Your Vardaskian grandfather KIRO GLIGOROV said.
We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ...
we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians"
zygste 1 year ago
You cant even spell english, so i guess you dont speak Greek right MonkeydonianWarrior? But, how come? Alexander was speaking greek, so... if you dont... you must be A SLAV!
Astaroth72 2 years ago
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Turkmonkeys UggA UggA °----__----° ARE NOT European!!!
They are dirty Mongolian from Asia!!!
(Sarkozy) France recognized + Greece + Cyprus!!!
NO MUSLIM MOTHERFUCKING TURKMONKEYS IN E.U!!!
THE WANNABE Macedonians ARE VARDARSKIANS, THEY ARE THE GREATEST LIARS AND THIEVES OF HISTORY!!!
Kiro Gligorov recognized 1992 + Bulgaria + Greece recognized it!!!
Macedonia is Greek!!!
Makedonia einai Ellhnikh!!!
Xeveos 2 years ago
Come on, guys, take the pills and go to bed!
Quiet, quiet, just take the pills...
BelomoreBG 2 years ago
ha ha ha that is funny greeks being against slavs telling them that they came in the region in 6th century etc but when they argue with albanians the slavs r they brothers that is funny i must admit. everyone thinks that is more supperior than the other more pure than the other YOU ALL MIXED MORONS AND STOP SPREADING HATE WE ALL HUMANS AND DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE . HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE
kcobaj1 2 years ago
yeah hahaha report and unlike my comments cuz truth hurts!!!!!!!
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
why would you believe you are a MACEdonian when the first leader of this fake country created in 1945 does not believe it??? SLAVS infested the Balkans in the 6th century. That is basic common European Knowledge!!! PROVE OTHERWISE YOU STUPID INFERIOR SLAV!!!
bobeee1969 2 years ago
cuz before that the ottomans have fucked us!!!!!!!
hahahahahhaha what a dumb fuck tard
slavs come on balcan in 6 centry a.d. so howerver we can't be from 1945 hahahahaha
NERD!!!!!!!!!!!!
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
so we still wait for an intelligent answer!!! YOU ARE A DIRTY SLAV, YOUR PEOPLE MISSED ALEXANDER BY 900 years!!! 300 BC to 600 AD ! DO THE MATH SLAV!!! 300 + 600= 900 YEARS!!! EVEN A DUMB SLAV INFERIOR LIKE YOURSELF CANT' COME UP WITH A SIMPLE RESPONSE!!!
bobeee1969 2 years ago
FYI= READ "MEIN KAMPF" BY ADOLF HITLER. A DIRECT QUOTE IN THE BOOK "WE WILL EXTERMINATE THE JEWS, GYPSIES, AND THE INFERIOR SLAVIC PEOPLES"
Please give me your response to this fact as a lot of your Bulgarian countrymen deny they are SLAVS!!!
That is very indicative of your intelligence!
bobeee1969 2 years ago
CELA PI4KA JAS OD TA MAJKA MU NEGOVA....KOPILE STARO PRODAENO>>>>>He can not neglect Aleksandar
We existed since the world even began...
aleks2105989 2 years ago
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if slavs wasn't exist u will never be borned... who made the electryty SLAVS, who get the first man in university SLAVS, who save the world from hitler SLAVS!!!!!!!!!!! now go fuck your sick brain
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
Just LOOOOOOOOOOOL!
zefirakos 2 years ago
OMG!!! do you really know what are you talking about? you just can believe the things you just said. you are really funny. cmon tell that you are kidding
johnsk50 2 years ago
hahah what?!?! truth hurts, u told me cuz I'm slav, and I said yes and I'm proud slav, so whats the problem now, what am I now tunguzian, I'm not more slav, mabby now u like be slav???
SLAVIC POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MACEDONIA RUSSIA SERBIA CROATIA BOSNA SLOVENIA SLOVAKIA POLAND CZECH UKRAINE BELARUSSIA ---- against nato and eu gays!!!!!!!! u are just poor gypsy cry cry, u have nothing with ancient spartans, athens, krit, u have just come on balkan from ethiopia and kill that people
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
learn history first my friend and then write
johnsk50 2 years ago
Russia,Ukraine,Belorus,Serbia,Croatia,Slovenia,Poland,Slovakia,and Cech republic,slovenia,Bulagaria are purely slavs,you are mix of Albanians,Bulgars(slavs) and Gypsies,if you knew history,Greece came from north,prolly Uralic mountains a thousands of years ago.And from your comments i can realise how stupid you are,All the countries you mentioned except Russia and Serbia are in EU/NATO or try to join them,they are prostituting themselfs to US,Only Russia,Belorus,Serbia are still against them.
Alaniaris8 2 years ago
about eu and nato that is polittitans stuff but not on people... yes we are gupsys but dont forgoth the first people are gupsys from africa so that means cuz u are after us... and u are worst than gupsy u are maden in labaratory synthetyc pice of shit
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
Haha you idiot,Gypsies came from India,thats how educated you are....And politics is for everyone,everyone can have his opinion in it,because we have democracy,maybe you dont have it in Skopje.
Alaniaris8 2 years ago
no u are gupsys but u aren't from india... so how dumb fuck u are indians are one of the smartest people in the world... duno about ur democracy, u made genocide over macedonians, and now u assimilating them
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
You idiot how cn we do Genocide to our own people?(Macedonia is Greek and always was and will be) you monkey country is called Skopje or Vardashka,and ofc you dont know what is democracy,you dont have freedom in knowledge you are being fed with propaganda,if someone is telling the truth your goverment tries to kill him(like kiro gligorov) lsn to your first Prime minister he ws talking the truth.And once again go read some history gypsies come from India,and i didnt say that the lack intelligence
Alaniaris8 2 years ago
ahhh... yeah u are right u steal 51% of our land that is over 50% and u can call your self macedonians?! no u can't u didn;t buy it u steal it!!!!!!!!! die nazi die!!!!!!!!!! u are scaring from truth and trying to hide that tipicle nazi pice of shits
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
hahah Macedonia was always Greek,we never stole your land,Alexander always was proud of his Greek roots,he talked Greek,his teacher was Greek(Aristotel)he spread Hellenism.And Greeks are in this land for thousands of years,you were behind the Uralic mountains back then with rest of the Slavs,By the way remind why do you talk a Bulgarian dialect? Original Macedonians talk Greek,go see the ancient coins of Alexander and you will see.
Alaniaris8 2 years ago
hahah sure?? what about demosten's speechs he said cuz macedonians are barbarians!!!!!!!!!!!!
IN YOUR FACE
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
@MacedonianWarior Im so proud you read Greek philosophy and retorics!! Demosthenes was an Athenian man,Democracy and voting was born in Athens,Greek city-states always had wars between them,and they accused each other of things like being barbarian and stuff,Demosthenes accused Alexander for being barbarian because he destroyed Thoebes,also Athenians accused Spartans for many things that makes them being less Greek?Alexander himself said he is Greek and talked ancient Greek. Give a better shot.
Alaniaris8 2 years ago
BULGAR=turcic+slav!!!!
bobeee1969 2 years ago
Yeah Slavs achieved many things thats true but,Who gave the slavs the Slavic Alphabet?Kurilus and Methodious,2 Greek brothers, Who did Develop Arts,science,history, and many more luxuries that western civilizations enjoy,Greeks contributed most to the western people than any other nation. But yes Slavs did achieve many things as well,Mostly Russia and Serbia(Nicolas Tesla) But Fyromanians are Slavs they have no bond between Alexander and Macedonia,Macedonia IS GREECE,sleep on it and stop posting
Alaniaris8 2 years ago
TYPE GOOGLE SEARCH= "INFERIOR SLAVIC PEOPLE" You will get the quote from Adolph Hitler.......Please I would love to hear your response on what you think of this!!! If you were so proud of being a SLAV you would forget this FANTASY of being Macedonian!!! This era 300 BC to 250 AD is refered to historically as THE HELLINISTIC AGE!!! Go to any University Curriculum and you will see for yourself you STUPID BULGARIAN SLAVIC INFERIOR!!!!!!!!
bobeee1969 2 years ago
-.- who the fuck say cuz we aren't slavs?? YES WE ARE... AND WE ARE PROUD OF IT, if we SLAVS(Russians 80%) wasn't, hitler will still fucking your big fat gayreek neonazi ass, u will havne't electryti(Никола Тесла SLAV), u will don't know cuz earth is elipsoide(cuz the first man who leave the earth is Јуриј Гагарин> SLAV)
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
@MacedonianWarior
your ASS is still hurting since 1949 fytomian TOY soldier
fuckinh country of COWARDS
2005defender 2 years ago
duno who is coward, duno who made genocid cuz its scarying from the truth
u fucking nazi
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
@MacedonianWarior
your english is fluent
Greece resistance against AXIS lasted 216 days on WW2
Yugoslavia fell in 5 days
Fyromian TOY soldier
2005defender 2 years ago
@MacedonianWarior
EVEN GEORGIEVSKI GOT A BULGARIAN PASSPORT
FUCKING COUNTRY OF COWARDS
2005defender 2 years ago
hahaha taht is unussual for u cuz u are fuckin nazi, this is democracy!!!!!!!!
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
@Macedoniapussy
go get a bulgarian passport TOY soldier
2005defender 2 years ago
actualy i'm not pussy, i know cuz u are gay and have gay instincts but pussy is person with 3 holes not with 2 hahahha u fuckiong nerd u even don't know about naturaly and u are talking for antique :S:S
yeah truth hurts we aren NAZIS LIKE U HERE IS DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
@MacedonianWarior
who is pussy ask your coward grandpa to rell you hw fast he was running on 1949 to Tito's paradise to save his miserable life. Fyromian TOY Soldier
2005defender 2 years ago
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@MacedonianWarior
Men of Athens...
Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery....
.
I am Alexander of Macedon."
(Herodotus, The Histories, 9.45)
ANSWER T THE ABOVE FYROMIAN FAGGOT
FILTHY HISTORY STEALERS
2005defender 2 years ago
Men of Athens... (Demosten)
Philip II Macedonian is Barbarian!!!!!!!!!!!
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
@MacedonianWarior
Philip II
Basileus of Macedon
Bust of Philip II of Macedon.
Reign 359 BC 336 BC
Greek Φίλιππος
Born 382 BC
.
Philip II of Macedon, (Greek: Φίλιππος Β' ο Μακεδών — φίλος = friend + ίππος = horse[1] — transliterated Philippos (help·info) 382 336 BC, was a Greek[2][3] king (basileus) of Macedon from 359 BC until his assassination in 336. He was the father of Alexander the Great and Philip III.
Cheers TOY soldier
2005defender 2 years ago 4
@MacedonianWarior gives us a break with Δημοσθένης..he was so localist..he used to hate everything non Athenian..why dont we start to talk about ISOKRATIS or others instead? no convenient to skopians..Δημοσθένης bla bla bla..all u know about is Δημοσθένης.
andromedahellinis 1 year ago
@MacedonianWarior Demosthenes was one person who allways didn't like the presure of Makedonian Kingdom to Athens. But the ancient scrolls refers names of Makedonian athletes who won in Olympic Games. And the all world knows that in ancient times in those Games participate only athletes from Greek cities and Kingdoms,and no barbarians as they called the non Greeks as Persians,Egyptians,Dacians,Romans etc. You are welcome to visited the scrolls in the musuem of Thessaloniki.
mariosathens1 1 year ago
@mariosathens1 i talking same shit there weren't barbarians like Macedonians in olymic games
MacedonianWarior 1 year ago
aki3001, how stupid can you be? Learn sme history and do not say bushits! Even Alexander was saying "For the loly of Greece!"
As we all know, Greeks were racists!!! In the ancient Olympic Games for example, NOONE could participate if he would not be PURE Greek, even if your great great grandpa would be Persian! Macedonians participated normaly at these games and also Filipos, father of "Megas Aleksandros" (not Alexandrovski or Alexandrovic), had won many games in the Olympic Games!
Kuopioboy 2 years ago
your own president admits you have no relationship with greek Maceddonia!!!
arispaoktsis 2 years ago
Affenstunde:
Uga Uga , Gligorov sieht sich als Barbar und nicht als MEnsch
Er steht uns Affen näher als den zivilisierten MEnschen
Sefasfil 2 years ago
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have you ever read your greek Demosthen, he was calling Philip Macedoinan the father od the Alexander the third Macedonian a barbarian, non greek, MACEDONIAN BARBARIAN . you stupid greeks with arabian origin.
aki3001 2 years ago
I am bored repling always to the same stupid stuff, it seems that you did NOT read our greek Demosthen because if you did you would understand why he said that.
zefirakos 2 years ago
The Zelef as President of the Republic on 20 June 1993 in Sweden, when asked by a journalist of the Swedish newspaper Svenska Dugbladed for «Macedonian nation» said:
«Macedonian nation created after the War Crime of Komintern is a crime of TITOISM and Stalinism».
bill619s 2 years ago
The statement of former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is speaking at an international conference in Paris in 1992, said:
«Greece is right about the name. I say this because I know history, something that ministers in Washington are not aware of . The powerful weapon for greece is her history. I have to say that Greece did not use the weapon , ie history »
bill619s 2 years ago
You are Slavs, not Macedonians. You will never get an identity just by repairing the history however you want.
tchatzop 2 years ago 12
Do u have the speeches of Alexander the Great? Go & study Herodotus, Plutarch or even read what Ceasar or the Persians say about Alexander the Great. Not only they call him Greek, even he calls himself Greek. If you don't have them i can give you the links - translated in English from Amerikans & German historians - attested copies.
tchatzop 2 years ago 2
pou einai twra ta vromoslabakiaaa na apantisoun vevea ti na poun twra mokooooo
gajh88 2 years ago
Do you actually know how much the greek government paid him for this?
angielicious93 2 years ago
do you? lol
I don't think so Angie, it's just that back at 1992 you haven't discovered "your roots" yet... ahahaha
kostas67reth 2 years ago
i would ask you to not talk about things you don't know ^o)
angielicious93 2 years ago
I'm sorry! :)
what do I know? I wasn't even born then.... ahahahahahahahahaha
kostas67reth 2 years ago
More than the greek government loans?You ve got to know we can't give money to anyone :p
As we can't give some Skopje obsessed ethnicists our culture.
Bye Bye
lanceortheo 2 years ago
One thing I know. You vote for those people, you deserve them. Learn some history fs you still want to hold the word "Republic" (english word for "democracy") in your name.
tchatzop 2 years ago
oh, so you want to decide about our name(which is not your right,after all),now you are telling me if we are country or not. lol
angielicious93 2 years ago
No, of course it's not our right to decide your name. But as long as your it is offensive to our history, we can put a veto for a lifetime. It's simple.
tchatzop 2 years ago
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your history?
did greeks live in macedonia before 1928,for god sake?
you have nothing to do with our history, veto won't change anything.
only the politicians need EU or NATO, we're fine without them.
angielicious93 2 years ago
ееее кире бее.. со бандата твоја у русија да идете, свињи комунистички!!
angielicious93 2 years ago
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Sparta, Athens, Thiva, Makedonia etc were different states. But they were proud of being Greeks. When hostile nations were threatening Greece they were fighting the enemy UNITED!!!
All these states were speaking Greek!!! Because they were Greeks!!! As in the past times, Spartans, Athenians, Makedonians speak Greek-feel Greek!!!
:-P
Tsakonas1982 2 years ago
I would agree with you, but these names have already been rejected by Skopje. Obviously their identity crisis is really deep. This is why thay are swaying back and forth from Alexander the Great to their eventual slavic origin. I try to understand and respect their feelings.
pandvale 2 years ago
Poor FYROM got PWNED!
komninosm 2 years ago
his*
MindinmotionMKD 2 years ago
This is the true Macedonian Traitor. He can call her mother she was Slavian and she came here in 6th century, having no relation with Alexander.
MindinmotionMKD 2 years ago
Yes we are slavs not Macedonians
KiroGligorovJunior 3 years ago 15
look everyone, I am telling this to everyone which says "greece-Greeks --- macedonia-macedonians"the territory of macedonia ,is greek !macedonia is TRIBE of Greece and it is NOT another nation!
darklaris 3 years ago 2
Say this to your self, I know what I am. And I am proud Macedonian descendent of Ancient Macedonian and Alexander the Macedonian.
Maybe there are tribes in Greece, I don't say no, but in Macedonia there are only Macedonians.
SuperGoce 2 years ago
the tribes of greece were . macedonia,athens,theeva,sparta,thrace,
epidamnus,korinthos.these were greek tribes.all those tribes was speaking greece with some differences and idioms.
darklaris 2 years ago
Anyway, what shall we do with the brainwashed?! That's a real issues, you know. They are no longer Bulgarians. I am sure they will continue to call themselves 'Macedonians', whatever happens. Because for them it's not only a question of name, it's a question of identity!! I don't believe they will be willing to change it by any means...
pandvale 3 years ago
Totally agree.
zefirakos 3 years ago
Thanks. But the problem is, we can't wait until 'hell freezes over' to settle the issue... There must be a kind of compromise from both sides. Who? And how?
pandvale 3 years ago
Maceonia is tribe of Illyrians idiot.. Alexander the Great fights against Greeks... You do not know that, read more history...
besko1234 2 years ago
Oh thank you expert. I note your profound knowledge... Then you should propose a solution to the Macedonian issue. "Alexander the Great fights against Greeks" is not enough.
pandvale 2 years ago
I have one solution: Why they do not call: Makslavia or Slavomakedonia... That can be acceptable, because they are not tribe of Ancient macedonians, but they stay in their territories...
besko1234 2 years ago
There are THOUSENDS of greeks who say that GREECE WAS IS AND WILL BE MACEDONIA just bakojani is wise enough and frightens them that if they open their mouth they'll go to prison or smth..and everybody here knows that this komunist's life is based on lies since birthdate so everything he tells has nothing to do with the truth or the reality...so greece do what you want you never get out history...ofc if you need a hand you can always count on this jerk in the vid...:)
LuciaSlash 3 years ago
Greece exists since 1821 what about you?
zefirakos 3 years ago
how much money greeks give on this komunist to say that, and for that he is now with out one eye, greece do what you want you never get out history
Obedinet 3 years ago
Yes sure, we paid that bulgarian loser to tell the truth!
zefirakos 3 years ago
Zefirakos, actually you are right - back in 1940s he was indeed Bulgarian, it's documented.
pandvale 3 years ago
the flags colour isent a proper argument, America & France have blue, red & white colours in their flag, does that mean that they are slavs??? of course no, if you people think that you will take our land then you are mistaken your countrys name should be vardaska. Macedonia was is & will always be Greek
Themis711 3 years ago
macedonia was the only country that broke out of yugoslavia politicaly, with a majority votes. THE people didnt feel a connection between them and the rest of the countries.
look at the flags.
you know how the macedonian look like.
serbia, slovenia, russia, croatia, bosnia, all of the same colours, blue, white and red. this is slavic colours.
does macedonia have a flag like that? no
samsamesammek 3 years ago
Yes? The main colour in your flag is red!
zefirakos 3 years ago
so? do you see blue or white in it?
samsamesammek 3 years ago
Kiro Gligorov is just a wanna-be russian, a creation and an hired underdog of the federation of jugoslavia and russia.
I dont care what bulgaria, serbia, or the other yougoslav countries say or claims to be.
Macedonia didnt ever want to be a part of yugoslavia, they just went being occupied by serbs instead of ottomans.
samsamesammek 3 years ago
hmmm.....I cannot agree with this. Yugoslavia was a beautifull creation and many Macedonians were happy with that.
MyDearsest 3 years ago
God only knows,how much money he took for saying this....... btw he is also old,don't know what is saying. And why don't you make interview on some REAL macedonians to hear what they will say??
RobertVelkovski 3 years ago
more kako ne te utepaa mamu ti ebem vampir eden nikakov sitkac prodadena dusa spiun i sve najloso pizda ti mater idiotu eden
dejancho 3 years ago
What Mr President? U R SLAVS? We know it, u must learn more ! where did you found the Macedonians History In which lang?? idiots ALL of u!! SLAV-E-S
madart666 3 years ago
you have to find what are you! not greek not macedonian, but something ugly remains from history.
MyDearsest 3 years ago
said the slavic guy who before 10 years claimed to be bulgarian and know claims to be macedonian!
zefirakos 3 years ago
I am serbian, by the way. And there ara very small number of bulgarians in Macedonia, you are free to be whatever you choose. no one is stilling your history, just you dont know how to share common history.
MyDearsest 3 years ago
owned.
Thomas1098R 3 years ago 3
МАКЕДОНИЈА НА МАКЕДОНЦИТЕ
NIKOLASKOPJE 3 years ago 3
I warned you. Bulgarian not permitted here.
Only English & Greek.
zefirakos 3 years ago
And why is that? Do you have something against Bulgaria or you just can't understand it?
ilian51378 3 years ago
Of course there is nothing against bulgaria, this is all about proving that the only Macedonia that exists is the Greek one.
zefirakos 3 years ago
abe macete se kolku sakate bezveze da pcuete:stupid siptari, smrt siptari, i slicno, dobro, ve razbiram, sto kazete drugo. Ali ova e vistinata, ovoj rec na kiro za slavo makedoncite. Deka nemat vrska so alexandrovata civilizacija, i tn.....
masterboy855 3 years ago
don't post bulgarian or slavic or whatever it's this.
English or "Macedonian" (Greek!)
zefirakos 3 years ago
because of this "his truth" now he looks very very different than on this video... he is happy to be alive... Serbian spy, the rest of communists.
However, the real Macedonians are still here... everywhere around...
Macedonia to Macedonians!
kulushich 3 years ago 2
hahaha barem na komunjarite samo ova im bilo dobrata strana, sto bile iskreni, bravo Kiro, toa e vistinata
masterboy855 3 years ago
xaxaxaxaxa ur own people said it xaxaxaxa
MACEDONIA WAS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE GREEK
tsigouni2 3 years ago
thats communists u dipshit, macedonia invented greece xD
40mbe 3 years ago
The first Macedonian state emerged in the 8th or early 7th century BC under the Argead Dynasty, who migrated to the region from the Greek city of Argos in Peloponnesus (thus the name Argead).
y does the truth bother u so much u brainwashed idiot
MACEDONIA WAS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE GREEK
THE TRUTH HURTS DONT IT DIPSHIT
njk5298 3 years ago
Stupid Shiptar! (Albanian)!
The only good ALBANIAN IS THE DEAD ONE!
So I hope you will become good very soon!
kulushich 3 years ago
stupid German racist?
zefirakos 3 years ago
macedonia for macedonians
19471987 3 years ago
I live in Kilkis (central Macedonia) if any of you "Macedonians" wants just make a comment about my previous post.
zefirakos 3 years ago
He was an Serbian spy And he didn't know about history he is like ur people he reads what ur people wrote
daci92sk 3 years ago
He didn't know anything about history when he was saying that he was "macedonian". But he obviously had a truth crisis.
As for propaganda, you are the ones who believe EVERY piece of bullshit that is thrown your way, and a blatant example of this is the "sub-Saharan" nazi bullshit about the origin of Greeks.
babouras123 3 years ago
we didn't made that test that test is made by the France and the USA together u don't want to believe coz it's making u some other people that u r saying
daci92sk 3 years ago
France and the USA together? LOL man... A group of "scientists" under Villena did it. Here are their names. Dimitroski, Pacho, Moscoso, Casado, Redondo, Varela, Blagoevska, Zdravkovska and Laso. I got this info from one of your people. But of course, this "research" was discredited. Now you are trying to put prestige in that bulls**t by saying tha ttwo big COUNTRIES did this? For God's sake.
babouras123 3 years ago
thats the first reasearch but the second was made by the scientists from France and the third was made by USA scientists
daci92sk 3 years ago
Do you have an internet link? I would like to see it. (if you are posting an internet link here, just put gaps between each letter, otherwise youtube will not accept it).
babouras123 3 years ago
they are in pdf files u must download them if u want to read them if u want to download just go to _history_of_macedonia_._org_ (dont put the lines in the browser)there u can read just the first reasearch but for the full reasearch and the second reasearch u will must download them
daci92sk 3 years ago
I assume you are referring to this?
h t t p : / / w w w . h is toryo f macedonia . org / ConciseMacedonia / Y _ H romosom es . pdf
I looked at it, and I did not see anywhere any reference to African chromosomes (I made a search for the words Africa and African).
I am no expert, but From what I read here h t t p : / / modern -macedonian- history . blogspot . c o m / this study is taken into account and it just shows the difference between Slavic and Greek populations.
babouras123 3 years ago
If you name the Slavs "Macedonian" which we do not accept, but this research does perhaps for political reasons, then yes, there is a difference.
babouras123 3 years ago
However, in the link that I gave you, there is this point "The levels of the R1a1 haplotype, associated by some with Slavic migrations, [3] have been found to be less than 12% (by way of comparison the relevant percentage for Syria is 10% and Poland 60%). [4]This confirms other studies that disprove the thesis that the Greeks have mingled substantially with Slavic people." if you look at the bibliography of [4], you will see that it is exactly this article that you mention, which proves
babouras123 3 years ago
the genetic continuity of the Greeks, and the fact that there is minimal igenetic interaction between the Greeks (even thos of northern Greece) and the Slavs. Therefore, there can be no Skopian minority in Greece, based on this genetic research.
babouras123 3 years ago
if he wa slike that?
why he was president for so many years?
haha so your nation is stupid :ppp
paralogistis 3 years ago
Next reply in bulgarian will be deleted.
Replies ONLY in English or Makedonian!
zefirakos 3 years ago
That is not Bulgarian that is Macedonian if u dont know go study in college
daci92sk 3 years ago
In your Government building you have a "Macedonian" stone where it supposes it's written in "Macedonian"
That stone is written in GREEK the only language all Macedonians spoke and will speak.
Here there is a pic from your building: ub0. cc/ 5W/ b
And here the zoomed pic from the stone: ub0. cc/ 8k/ 5 (Remove the spaces to open the links)
This is a Macedonian stone written in Greek real proof that everything that has to do with Macedonia is Greek.
Macedonia Is Greek.
zefirakos 3 years ago
I am bored for the slavovardaskian stupidity they never answer in simple questions..they do not care about historical facts that is why they always start saying"fuck greece,fuckgreece" answer to me slavoskopjans the question below(if you want you can press the second or the third or the fourth..you can NOT understand EVEN ONE of them
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
Because slavoskopjan dare even to speak,I will ask for 59th time for one skopjan to answer clearly in one simply question-test..
press in the google "ancient macedonian coins" go to the images and press the first coin..if you slavoskopjan are true macedonians write to me exactly what it is written on the first coin,the origin of the word and the meaning in english..For beginning I want EXACTLY what it is written with the same character and the meaning in english..
PatrisYperPantwn 3 years ago
this was said after trmendous presure and treths of embargo by the former tukish province-greece who has recognized macedonia in 1978 as peoples repubilc of macedonia but after the embargo in 1993 this old goat broke up that document in the un by the way greece eve recoknized macedonia in the 1980s and beafor that in their hisotry books stop fyroming me beafor it makes you pay for all your wrongdoing I AM MACEDONIAN AND MY MOTHER IS MACEDOIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
zurela 3 years ago
So how it's possible not to speak Greek? I am Makedonian too. Alexander the Great was spoken Greek what about you?
zefirakos 3 years ago
u r an idiot u said u r makedonian not Macedonian or Makedon stupid greeks
daci92sk 3 years ago