I'm Canadian and I love this country ecspecially the animals ,but I'm like 50 % sure the guy dressed like the beaver at 1:36 will be in my nightmares tonight
@Planetar17 That's true as well, though even with German engineering tanks like the king tiger were so heavy that the parts could take the strain. The engine they used just wasn't designed to deal with a tank that large. Which was an issue with a lot of heavy tanks in WW2. The suspension and drive trains were also meant for lighter vehicles. Most of these problems were fixed over time but had they made made these part specifically for it from scratch (cont)
@TrueMetis (cont) the first Tigers 2's wouldn't have suffered a 80% failure rate. Which could have seriously changed things since despite numerical superiority on the Russian front they had basically nothing that could contend with it. Especially had the plan for upgrading the guns went through. They wanted to go from an 88mm KwK 43 to a 105mm KwK L/68 making it by far the largest gun being used on anything but artillery.
@TrueMetis I didn't know that about the 105mm. They say the Russians invented sloped armor in a tank. is that true? When I look at the Crusader Mark VI and the Aussie Sentinal, the turrets are angled as if meant to cause an incoming shell to ricochet, or do they mean the forward armor plating?
@Enbarr11 The first tank to use slopped armour was the French Schneider CA1 which was partially slopped. The French SOMUA S35 then had fully slopped armour. Though the Russian T-34 did it arguably better, and it was this tank the influenced German tanks to take it up.
I'm afraid I don't know much about the Crusader or Sentinel, from pictures though both appear to have slopped armour, with relatively small guns that probably couldn't deal with later German tanks at all.
@TrueMetis Were these slope designs accidental, or were they a deliberate design to thwart incoming shells? As I think about it, the concept probably dates back as far as the use of armor in warships. You don't have to answer that, I'll look it up, but I hadn't known it was first tried in WWI.
@Enbarr11 I can though, some Ironclads in civil war era US had sloped armour, and shaping armour to deflect blows existed as far back as plate armour for knights. Though it wouldn't technically be sloped armour. So people have known that you can shape armour to reduce the damage a blow can do for a long time.
@theruder9 read Eddy's posts and you'll see what my problem is. He hates Americans, he paints them with the same brush, calls them racists, disprespects the military alliance the USA and Canada have had since WW1, disrepsects their fallen and then to top it all off he plays the poor "downtrodden" Native card.
I have no patience for bigots or self-pitying "victims".
@severedtesticles I'm a bit tired, but from what I got from this is that you got mad because he said he had native blood? and some other things or omsething or rather happened also. Any way. That's totally excusable. Hell you trace my family tree Louis Riel is apperantly there (if you believe my family anyway) and I would never want to live on a reserve and be babied by my government. I think the only help that should be available is cheaper school entrances. and goddamn 500
@theruder9 no, I could care less that he's native. But he brought it up as if that fact is suddenly supposed to make me excuse the fact that he's an anti-American bigot. If you go back a few pages you'll see his anti-Americanism.
@severedtesticles I meant that but i was trying not to be specific because 500 chars sucks. Anway i get what you mean. I also understand that when you leave in a bad place for a long time people will eventually want to blame someone (ww2) On the other hand their has been so many perks to being native for so long I have a hard time imagining how people could still be having a hard time.
@severedtesticles I'm not saying this out of racism but maybe genetically natives hadn't fully evolved? Neanderthals died because they lacked the ability to adapt, so in my opinion it's possible. Anybody else reads this sorry if i seem racist, I could probably just be ranting since i've been tired for a while.
@Eddythebeast666 Really? didn't know that. I don't even remember what i meant from an half hour ago. I think the technology that they had before was less advanced (not specificallly talking about evolution) they weren't able to adjust, and since then have had a hard time in society. (sometimes) that might be why natives seem to feel that they are treated poorly. Although someone might have actually done an actual study and proven me wrong already.
@theruder9 Well Natives knew that Bathing was good which had fallen out of fashion in Europe since the fall of Rome. Native culture was different in some ways farming was superior. Crops such as the potato revolutionized European society when brought back
A good example is the Look up here on YouTube "Ingenuity of the Inuit:Shit Knife"
The Idea that one culture is superior to others depends on how you define it. If I'm stronger then you does that mean I'm better? Of course not.
@theruder9 First Nations who have managed to regain their cultural heritage do much better than those who haven't. First Nations trying to assimilate by and large just doesn't work.
@TrueMetis severedtesticles is none other then our old troll MegaTheBrit. I guess he got tired of pretending to be British.
So he comes up with a name that mocks Canadians implying "we have no balls" then goes on with the same crap he did before. Crapping upon Canada down playing British contributions during the wars.
I must say he does put a great deal of effort in to these debates.
@severedtesticles Obama wasn't torn between loyalty to heritage & Nation. And that is the issue right there.
Identity.
It is important that I'm Native. You are supposed to care. Just are you care about the things that make up your identity. Say Irish, Scottish, Welsh traditions or any matter of faith. The groups we belong to & through that belonging our self identity is formed.
Its who we are & we take that in to any new relationships we form.
@Eddythebeast666 I don't give a shit about my ethnic origins. It doesn't define who I am at all, so why should I care? It's all bullshit. But since you brought it up, Dutch, English, Scottish and Irish. But beyond knowing wht they are, I don't care. I feel no pull or loyalty to any of them.
@severedtesticles So define the American identity. I'll start you off.
1st. Its not British. They don't have a Queen. They are quite proud of that & I've noticed most don't think very highly of those who still have one.
I only point this out because they have made a rather large deal about not being British as central to that core identity that we all consider important.
Some may say how alike our cultures are but they spilled a great deal of family blood to make that distinction. So accept that
I think you two got off on the wrong foot. Perhaps you gents should start over. No shame in shaking hands and starting again with mutual civility and understanding.
@trouzerpants It's more complected then you might think. There are Canadians a minority thank God, English out around Alberta region that are Republicans. Wishing to abolish the Monarchy & turn Canada in to another US state.
They are WASP's & supremacists. Americans in all but name.
As a Native I find them rather offensive. They don't understand the differences between Canada & the US.
@Eddythebeast666 So are you saying Americans are all WASPS and supremacists? It's funny how the Canadians who hate Americans the most are the ones who have hardly met any and talked to any in person. They see Fox News and think that it reperesents all Americans.
I've lived in both the US and Canada and I've been to Europe on 3 times and I can tell you the, while there are differences, Americans and Canadians have far more in common with each other than differences. We're family. Deal with it.
@Eddythebeast666 You make an awful lot of assumptions about me and the cultural make up of American society. Based on what you've said you've obviously never been there. There are greater cultural and ethnic variances in the United States than there are in Canada. Period. The idea of the USA being a "melting pot" while Canada is a "mosaic" is a Canadian perpetuated myth.
@Eddythebeast666 You've got native blood? WTF is that supposed to mean? Am I supposed to be impressed or somehow subdued by a typically pathetic sense of Canadian cultural sensitivty?
@trouzerpants I'm not so sure anymore. I was willing to put everything behindus, but the guy seems to genuinely hate Americans. I have many American family and friends. As nations, we've had some rough patches, but overall remained strong allies. For all our diffeences, we still share much in common, and our boys have fought and bled together on the same side in several wars, There's assholes on both sides. No need to add to it.
@Eddythebeast666 It's not me. If I'm not flagging your responses, with their petty insults and blatant anti-Americanism, as spam, why would I flag trouzerpants' far more measured and reasoned posts?
I dunno, mate. It's happened to me before. Happens a lot to Ninja too, have you noticed? I always do my best to "unspam" posts that have been false-flagged.
@trouzerpants Some times copy paste replies like quotes will have it done automatically by Youtube but these posts were in particular were your comments about American boasting.
@trouzerpants Good post. I'm just taking issue with my fellow Canadians with "little brother" syndrome who seem to think it's ok to counter American arrogance and ignorance with equal measure of Canadian arrogance and ignorance.
For example, another popular Canadian myth about the USA is that their later arrivals in both world wars amounted to smaller, almost insignificant contributions....as if the're completely unaware that over 100,000 Americans died in WW1 and over 400,000 in WW2.
ok before america even began thinking of jooning the war canada was helping. canada was a major factor that prevented the germanys from weaking britians food supply and other matrials(plus we came up with the convoy system). When america started sending supplys to britian the germen u boats had a easy time taking them out since they were unprotected (since america didnt use the convoy system of the bat)
@Eddythebeast666 LOL, CHINA? China wasn't fighting Japan, they were getting slaughtered by them. Japan started losing only when the Americans got involved. The only thing China did most of with Japan was dying. Just as the USSR did all the heavy lifting against Germany, it was the USA that did all the heavy lifting against Japan.
I'm Canadian, BTW, I just have American friends and family and am continually embarrased by how so many Canadians feel they have to bash the USA. It's childish.
@severedtesticles I also have American friends and family, and it's rather interesting how they've reacted when we've actually gone and looked up the supposed facts they claim. Perhaps you should do the same.
The fact remains that the American propaganda machine is just as effective (if not more so) than the Soviet and Nazi machines were. It's almost embarrassing the things they've convinced their citizens...
Which is more childish, ignorant arrogance or calling them on it?
@TrueMetis Your statement "Funny how the US acts like they actually mattered in WW1 like the outcome wasn't decided before they even joined." is so far from the truth it proves just how clueless you really are. The arrival of the Americans is what ended that war when it did. The Germans still had plenty of fight left in them.
@Eddythebeast666 "Dieppe was a raid to test the water for D-Day."
There were also clear objectives that all failed. Canadians try to dress Dieppe up as anything other than the disasterous military failure that it was.
@Eddythebeast666 You're conveniently forgetting that the US was fighting Japan whilst committing the majority of its forces to the war in Europe. China or not, if the US had been able to commit the enirety of its militarty power against Japan the result would have been the same. Japan had absolutely no hope of deafeating the United States.
@severedtesticles Excuse me but Canada was there for the fall of Hong Kong. Pearl Harbor didn't get the worse of the Japanese attacks. The US only got a tiny taste of the hell in the Pacific compared to China, India, Australia or a dozen other nations.
Are you seriously trying to suggest you were all alone or that the US bled more then these other nations as Europe was dealt with?
@Eddythebeast666 what I'm saying is just as we (Canada, Britain, USA) played a supporting role to the Soviets defeating Nazi Germany, anyone else involved in the war against Japan played a supporting role to the USA. The Red Army delivered all the major knock-out punches to the Wehrmacht and the USA delivered all the major knock outs to the Japanese Imperial Army.
@Eddythebeast666 I realize we were all on the same team. I've been to Normandy and been to the US cemetary at Omaha. over 10,000 Americans buried there. It really is a sobering sight. They were/are our allies and so many Canadians loves to shoot their mouths off about Americans being "late". So fucking what? They fought beside our guys and bled and died beside our guys. They deserve just as much respect as we give our soldiers.
@Eddythebeast666 You like to put words in other peoples' mouths, don't you? I never said that the Americans "rescued us all in Europe"...I said they committed the bulk of their forces there. Still, the Americans contributions to the war in Europe were undeniably massive and Canadians resent them for it. D-Day, for example, would have been impossible without them.
You're obviously like so many other Canadians with "little brother syndrome" and a petty hatred for Americans.
@severedtesticles Its amazing the number of people who you can meet through the internet & just how often when challenging Americans on preconceptions about almost any topic they change it to how they saved our asses in WW2.
Yes that's quite often how the topic gets brought up.
Do you want to trace back to see who brought it up this time?
@Eddythebeast666 Perhaps it was brought up because of the litany of posts on this video by Canadians rubbing Americans' noses in the fact they failed in their attempts to conquer Canada? Canadians aren't immune to arrogance or historical ignorance either. I bet I can find at least 50 claims here that Canadians "burned down the White House" when in fact it was British regulars fresh from the war against France who did it.
@severedtesticles Let me ask our Queen whose people burned down the white house.
She says it was her people.
See you are drawing lines of distinction which are irrelevant. The only true Canadians at that point were the French. The inhabitants of upper Canada were born in America (Loyalists) or Ireland or Scotland or Native.
The only unifying element with any of the forces in battle was the Monarchy & oh look we still have a British Queen & every single one of them was fighting for Canada.
@Eddythebeast666 and if the Queen knows anything about her nation's and empire's history, she'll tell you that British born troops, veterans of the war against Napolean, were shipped over for a retaliatory attack on Washington. It was the first time these troops had ever stepped on North American soil. Nobody born and raised in Upper Canada was even within 300 miles of Washington when the British torched it. Yet Canadians still claim is was they who did it. Ridiculous.
@severedtesticles Excuse me, who do do think manned the ships who brought them there numb skull?
You think the British only impressed Americans? Britain relied so heavily upon Canadian sailors there were riots in St. John's, Halifax & Quebec City over the excessive use of the practice.
Again you are drawing lines that didn't exist. Splitting hairs over nonsense.
@severedtesticles Revolutionary War was more of a civil war then anything else. The leadership wasn't Natives or slaves throughing off British oppressors but a group of whining over privileged slave owning wealthy British elitists.
@Eddythebeast666 I guess, again using your logic, that it was Canadians who had their asses handed to them in the Battle of New Orleans? Or is that a loss you're not willing to accpet as your own? THAT battle belongs to the British?
@Eddythebeast666 You're avoiding the questions. Who lost the Battle of New Orleans? Canada or Great Britain? Since you claim Canadians burned down the White House, they must have lost that battle then, right?
Canada didn't even exist then. The United States did not declare war on Canada, the declared war on Great Britain. Everyone fighting under the British flag was fighting for Great Britain.
@severedtesticles Again you are drawing lines that didn't & still don't exist. Demanding I label the British Colony of Canada as a different identity then the independent nation of Canada.
The point of which is to confuse the issue not bring clarity.
It was a unified front coordinated for the defense of Canada.
Since the political party that lead the USA at that time no longer exists you can no longer take credit for Baltimore. Loose the anthem Yankee.
@severedtesticles Since the cannons provided by Lafayette were French & the cannons won the day in New Orleans Americans are stealing credit from the French.
@severedtesticles That's an interesting story actually. Canadians built a few armoured vehicles during WW2 the Ram (which would be the basis of the Kangaroo APC), the Valentine (which the Russians loved), and the Sexton SP gun. The Rams were designed based on the M3 Lee, seeing many improvements and limited action. This in turn inspired the M4 Sherman which incorporated all elements the Ram had improved upon them.
@TrueMetis Of course Canadians being Canadians what did we do when we got our hands on the Sherman? Modified it of course! Thicker more sloping armour, longer range, a different set of tracks turned it into the Grizzly 1 cruiser made in Montreal. When it became apparent that the US made enough Shermans though we used the Grizzly chassis to produce the Sexton mk 2 the commonwealths answer to the US's M7 priest
Same here, we turned it into the Firefly by fitting it with the mighty Brit 17 pounder, hoping it wouldn't turn us into "Tommy Cookers" quite so readily..
@trouzerpants Which resulted in the only tank capable of taking on the Panther and Tiger tanks, making them priority target for German anti-tank crews. Thank you on behalf of the commonwealth for sending some of those our way BTW.
@trouzerpants People like to say that had Germany only made a few tactical and strategic changes they could have won. This is not true, except in one place. Had they focused on and been able to capture certain strategic resources like oil things could have changed drastically. Because of a lack of oil less than half of their forces were mechanized. Instead of relying on trucks needing horses and other beasts of burden. Oil limited the number of tanks they could field significantly.
Don't forget Goering's pomposity. He thought he could KO the RAF in 2 weeks.Through chance, a lost bomber (possibly an He 111) dropped it's bombs over London. Through retaliation, Churchill ordered a raid over Germany, infuriating the Fuhrer who then ordered Goering to bomb London. This gave us time to repair the airfields which were taking a right pounding. Kinda same thing at Pearl, had the carriers not been at sea on exercise, they too would've been lost. Bye Bye Pacific campaign..
@trouzerpants They also didn't go through with a final raid that would have destroyed many key supply depots, preventing the US from repairing many of their ships and destroying a lot of fuel.
@TrueMetis I think if the Luftwaffe had stayed on target in the Battle of Britain and remained focused on the airfields and radar sights, they would have knocked Britain out of the war entirely and won the whole thing. The RAF was weeks from total collapse when Hitler and Goering switched to bombing cities. That gave the RAF the reprieve it so desperately needed. A Wehrmacht unfettered by an unsecured Western flank would have defeated the Red Army by '42, IMO.
@severedtesticles Right I forgot about that. Yes a huge fuck up from Germany's perspective. Not sure if I agree with total collapse though, the RAF could always be rebuilt in Canada and other parts of the commonwealth and Germany could never get the naval forces together for an invasion. So while Britain would have been less of a threat it would have still been their as a staging point for the Allies.
@trouzerpants I read somewhere that the front armour of the King Tiger was never penetrated by ground fire ever on the Western Front. Only flank/rear shots or airpower took them out.
More Tigers (both variants) were lost during the war to mechanical failure than enemy action.
@severedtesticles The King Tiger had 18 cm (7 inch) armour on the front, there wasn't anything in the arsenal of any country with the power to penetrate that. You'd still be hard pressed to find something that could deal with that.
@TrueMetis King Tiger was a beast of a tank but I'm pretty sure any modern main battle tank could fire a round right through the front glacis plate of a King Tiger like a hot knife through butter.
@severedtesticles A modern tank sure, but I have a feeling most anti-armour weapons would be about as effective as they are on modern tanks. Ever see one of those videos of a tank shrugging off a half dozen RPG rounds like mosquito bites? Wouldn't surprise me if the King Tiger could take the same punishment. Really hard to get the kind of power need in something you can sling over your shoulder.
@TrueMetis I was at the Bovington tank museum in England a few years ago and got to stand beside the Tiger 1 and King Tiger they have there...they are *massive* beasts.
Huge respect to the men *of any nation* that had to go up against them.
@TrueMetis It's amazing...More than one Tiger 1...they even have a fully rebuilt Tiger 1 that's fully operational. If you're luckey, they take it out 3-4 times per year, but no more than that for fear of a very expensive mechanical breakdown! lol
Every major German and Soviet tank of WW2 is there, as well as Allied tanks and modern tanks. If you're a "tread-head" it is THE place to go.
@severedtesticles If there's that many I may have to avoid it. Otherwise I'd probably end up kicked out for trying to take one apart... that might be a good way to steal one actually, take it apart piece by piece making sure it still looks fine.
@severedtesticles The reason French & Natives sided with Britain in 1812 was because of the nature of Americans.
“Till I came here,” he wrote Bathurst, “I had no idea of the fixed determination which there is in the heart of every American to extirpate the Indians and appropriate their territory.”
Americans & what ever the hell you are never accepted us as part of this country & because of that truth existing at the heart of American culture no native can be a true part of it.
@severedtesticles Here we go again. Why did the yanks separate from the Empire?
Who are the traitors & who stayed loyal to their cultural roots? Who did a better job of keeping the treaties? Who broke the treaties as soon as covenant.
It means nothing to you. You don't see any difference between what happened here & in the USA.
There is a huge difference from what we saw. It was bad in Canada. It was evil unleased in the USA.
@Eddythebeast666 You saying that British treatment of the natives was good because it was better than how the Americans treated their natives is kinda moronic The Brits were still bastards to the natives and so were Canadians.
Both the Brits and Americans were bastards to the natives and both made extensive use of the slave trade. Germany also exterminated millions of people. All three nations have moved on from the wrongs of their past. How long must they live in the shadows of those wrongs?
No person of American birth can love America with out hating Natives.
We are not part of their world view. We Don't count as human. We had to be exterminated, driven away imprisoned in reservations in order for them to come to be.
At least Canadian culture has a place for us as part of the society, a part of the history distinct cultures as the French or Chinese who built the railroads or escaped slaves.
@Eddythebeast666 So...it's not possible for an American to love their country, yet recognize that grievious wrongs were committed against the native peoples and hope that their country can help heal the wounds caused by those wrongs? Is it impossible for a German to love their country without hating Jews?
You really have a one dimensional view of people, particularlty Americans, don't you?
No its not. America needs a restart. The last one was the civil war but even then they never rejected the slave owning founding fathers as worthy role models. They never reexamined the core character of the nation.
They need to do that. Who are they? FOX news has a clearer vision of who they are as a nation then anyone down there. The rest don't know, how ever much they protest that they are something different.
@Eddythebeast666 I am not false spamming your posts. You are obviously pissing people off with your racism. Keep at it it though, it only makes you look worse.
@severedtesticles The rest don't know, how ever much they protest that they are something different. They still elected Bush for 2 terms in office.
How can they hold up some one like Martin Luther King Jr. up as an example of who they are as a people when he was shot?
I'm surprised they haven't killed Obama yet. Didn't expect him to last this long. Its a good sign. There is hope for them but his color didn't come from a slave bloodline, he wasn't torn between loyalty to heritage & Nation.
@Eddythebeast666 Seriously, can you do any better than posts based purely on bigotry and completey false notions about another country based on Canadian myths? I feel like I'm dealing with a teenager or, ever worse, someone in their 20's.
@Eddythebeast666 At least now I finally dragged it out of you; you're an American-hating bigot. Now that it's out in the open, stop pretending, let's hear every ignorant thing you've got to say about an entire nation of people based solely on preconcieved notions.
I guess, according to you, I am not a true Canadian becuase I don't hate Americans.
@Eddythebeast666 You have such false and dleusional misconceptions of what Canada is, it;s almost funny. I checked your channel and you obviously have a huge axe to grind with Americans. You paint them all with the same brush motivated by hatred and that, sir, makes you a racist. Which is all the more ironic considering you are calling all Americans racists.
Keep playing your "oppressed Native" card, though. I bet you got a free education at a Canadian college or university. Glad I could help.
@severedtesticles I really wish that was true, I'd be in university right now instead of washing dishes to gain experience to eventually join the military.
This is a patriotic Canadian video celebrating THIER independence, just as Americans celebrate theirs on July 4th. In 1812, it was Brit Canadians, French Canadians, Redcoats, some UEL's, natives, doesn't matter, they all fought for their independence under a single flag. Same goes for the Patriots during the rev: some Canadians (!), certain Indian tribes, Lafayette, Von Steuben & Rochambeau's boys, Spain, Holland et al, all fought under Washington's banner.
@trouzerpants Of course as Canadians we have to disguise it as a joke cause if we actually act patriotic in a way that would be accepted amongst any other country we get looked at funny. Mention how Canada became the go to people in WW1 for taking difficult objectives, or how we revolutionized tactics during the same period, or how Canadian troops would be covertly switched with US and British troops because German troops would specifically avoid us and people look at us funny.
Excessive American pride is omnipresent here on YT: "you were beaten by nothing more than a few farmers with no shoes", "we saved you in BOTH world wars", "without us, you'd all be speaking German"
If I had a penny for every time I've heard/read sentiment such as that, I'd be a very wealthy man indeed.
For my money, Americans (more than most) do spout hyperbole & revel in unbearable hubris, even though much of it is myth, propaganda etc, drummed into 'em from a very early age.
I doubt this situation will change. Let's just live and let live. If you wanna watch/listen to/read Americans revel in their perceived glory, go to those places/sites/threads etc where you know you'll find just that. Same with Canadians, let them express their unity in a similar way - if you don't wish to encounter this, avoid those areas (wherever they may be) where you know you'll encounter it.
We all have pride, Christ, look at my page: Churchill & the BoB Memorial Flight!
@severedtesticles You are an idiot playing with goal post trying to distort history to flatter American egos.
You might just as well argue Since Britain isn't an Empire any more they don't exist there for the US vanquished them.
Give me a break. Thanks giving was British colonials they weren't born there. I could just as easily claim the US steals credit for a British established tradition.
@Eddythebeast666 "Do you see Canadians & French getting pissy about who sacrificed more?"
Yes...all the time.
"America gets the shit because they crap on every one else."
Really? Can you show me some examples? For every American who does what you claim there's a Canadian who does the same. Just like so many other Canadians with "little brother" syndrome.
@severedtesticles Since Dieppe was a test and wasn't actually meant to take anything no, I'm thinking more like D-day proper when the Canadians hit farther into France than any other group.
@TrueMetis and then got pushed back by German counter attacks because the Canadians outpaced their British flank support too quickly? Yeah, that was smart.
Canadians made huge gains on D-Day, yes, but they lost them days later.
@severedtesticles Uh no, everything the Canadians captured on D-day remained in Allied control. I think what you may be referring to is either a group of 4 tanks making it to the final objective then retreating due to not having infantry support, or when the 9th Canadian Infantry Brigade began to advance on the 7th only to be pushed back to their D-day positions. That position being all of 4.8 km from Caen.
@TrueMetis While the 9th was pushed back the 7th was not, succeeding in capturing their final D-day objective. And the 8th was on their way to destroying a German radar site, with British commando help.
@severedtesticles None of the final objectives no, D-day of course was planned in stages. Since landings succeeded on every beach every group completed at least one of their D-day objective. Of course if you were paying attention when I said the 7th captured their final objective I was talking about the next day June 7th.
@Planetar17 They accepted but the way they acted afterwards indicated they simply lied and never had any intention of carrying out the Articles. This was one of the reasons why Britain backed the Natives in the NorthWest Indian War against the US.
Lets be honest. With men like William Henry Harrison and Andrew Jackson leading the charge on the Native front the poor Indians had no chance. Harrison's personal diaries show he had no intention of honouring Native treaties.
@Ninja1275 I'm not sure it's was a deliberate lie in the sense we would understand it today.
We have to look at what the USA was at the time. A loose coalition of nation states already close to war with it self.
The USA had proven incapable of honoring any of its treaties to this point. Failed to compensate loyalist as agreed in the Paris treaty. Failed to honor the agreement with France.
Madison was more like the head of a mob he could direct it but not rein it in.
Their reason for not honouring their debt to France was as a consequence of the French Revolution. They stated they owed Louis XVI, not some new republic. Kicked off the Quasi War..
@trouzerpants That was the excuse yes, but France had backed the US revolution. So here are the people of France over throwing their government. Freedom freedom freedom & the people of the USA says screw you.
The US quibbles a bit about the rein of terror but they never hesitated to spill Loyalist blood. Why get so moral when the French do the same?
Just an excuse so they could get out of paying their debts.
@Eddythebeast666 True but I don't think they ever had any intention of fulfilling the agreement. They probably only accepted it because they knew they could manipulate it into their favour or worm their way out of it.
Still at least Edward Nicolls left the Seminoles with a shit load of weapons and supplies to give them a fighting chance.
Especially considering the scum they sent to negotiate the treaty.
The War Hawk States knew The Feds were going to get the worst in the war & the Hawks being mostly inland & farmers had little to fear. (They certainly didn't expect Britain to Free & arm slaves) XD
Any way my point is that the States were not united.
The Northern States signed on to the British Anti Slave Trade act of 1807 & the southern States began smuggling slaves ignoring the law.
I am an Asian-American and I must say that... this V-v-Video.... IS THE MOST TRUTHFUL PIECE OF INFO ON THE WAR OF 1812 THAT IS GIVEN TO AMERICA!
zelda99011 3 hours ago
im british... DONT HURT ME ASWELL! lol
Zmovieman 10 hours ago
Very funny. enjoyed this very much. Amnuai
ThaiSilkMagic 1 day ago
Oh look, 38 Americans.
VivaNewVegas 2 days ago
I'm Canadian and I love this country ecspecially the animals ,but I'm like 50 % sure the guy dressed like the beaver at 1:36 will be in my nightmares tonight
mel87kel 3 days ago 3
we pwned their asses
njl98 4 days ago
This could be in the charts.
davethemouse1 4 days ago
i bet all 38 dislikes are amaricans
Massfx1 5 days ago 6
jonny horton ftw
XxXIsmellShitXxX 5 days ago
fucking easterners trying to ram thier fascist war propaganda down our throat and tell us its our history
BC wasn't part of canada in your fucking war
only harper and his kind of nazi scum get boners about war
lowaces 5 days ago
@lowaces you need to simmer at least we didnt put a retard in office
XxXIsmellShitXxX 5 days ago
@Planetar17 That's true as well, though even with German engineering tanks like the king tiger were so heavy that the parts could take the strain. The engine they used just wasn't designed to deal with a tank that large. Which was an issue with a lot of heavy tanks in WW2. The suspension and drive trains were also meant for lighter vehicles. Most of these problems were fixed over time but had they made made these part specifically for it from scratch (cont)
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis (cont) the first Tigers 2's wouldn't have suffered a 80% failure rate. Which could have seriously changed things since despite numerical superiority on the Russian front they had basically nothing that could contend with it. Especially had the plan for upgrading the guns went through. They wanted to go from an 88mm KwK 43 to a 105mm KwK L/68 making it by far the largest gun being used on anything but artillery.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis I didn't know that about the 105mm. They say the Russians invented sloped armor in a tank. is that true? When I look at the Crusader Mark VI and the Aussie Sentinal, the turrets are angled as if meant to cause an incoming shell to ricochet, or do they mean the forward armor plating?
Enbarr11 1 week ago
@Enbarr11 The first tank to use slopped armour was the French Schneider CA1 which was partially slopped. The French SOMUA S35 then had fully slopped armour. Though the Russian T-34 did it arguably better, and it was this tank the influenced German tanks to take it up.
I'm afraid I don't know much about the Crusader or Sentinel, from pictures though both appear to have slopped armour, with relatively small guns that probably couldn't deal with later German tanks at all.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis Were these slope designs accidental, or were they a deliberate design to thwart incoming shells? As I think about it, the concept probably dates back as far as the use of armor in warships. You don't have to answer that, I'll look it up, but I hadn't known it was first tried in WWI.
Enbarr11 1 week ago
@Enbarr11 I can though, some Ironclads in civil war era US had sloped armour, and shaping armour to deflect blows existed as far back as plate armour for knights. Though it wouldn't technically be sloped armour. So people have known that you can shape armour to reduce the damage a blow can do for a long time.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis shut up
njl98 4 days ago
Absodamnlutely fabulous
derehamcentre 1 week ago
I Hope you got an A
emysue1992 1 week ago
yeah i just read it again it's racist sorry.
theruder9 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
Why are people fighting here?
theruder9 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@theruder9 'cos Eddy is a racist pig.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles You been arguing to much and i'm to lazy to read what's your problem?
theruder9 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@theruder9 read Eddy's posts and you'll see what my problem is. He hates Americans, he paints them with the same brush, calls them racists, disprespects the military alliance the USA and Canada have had since WW1, disrepsects their fallen and then to top it all off he plays the poor "downtrodden" Native card.
I have no patience for bigots or self-pitying "victims".
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles I'm a bit tired, but from what I got from this is that you got mad because he said he had native blood? and some other things or omsething or rather happened also. Any way. That's totally excusable. Hell you trace my family tree Louis Riel is apperantly there (if you believe my family anyway) and I would never want to live on a reserve and be babied by my government. I think the only help that should be available is cheaper school entrances. and goddamn 500
theruder9 1 week ago
@theruder9 no, I could care less that he's native. But he brought it up as if that fact is suddenly supposed to make me excuse the fact that he's an anti-American bigot. If you go back a few pages you'll see his anti-Americanism.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles I meant that but i was trying not to be specific because 500 chars sucks. Anway i get what you mean. I also understand that when you leave in a bad place for a long time people will eventually want to blame someone (ww2) On the other hand their has been so many perks to being native for so long I have a hard time imagining how people could still be having a hard time.
theruder9 1 week ago
@severedtesticles I'm not saying this out of racism but maybe genetically natives hadn't fully evolved? Neanderthals died because they lacked the ability to adapt, so in my opinion it's possible. Anybody else reads this sorry if i seem racist, I could probably just be ranting since i've been tired for a while.
theruder9 1 week ago
@theruder9 That's not how evolution works.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis Probably not like i said im not thinking. Now i feel stupid for even thinking about it. lol.
theruder9 1 week ago
@theruder9 The issue of race is completely cosmetic built largely out of early pseudo science eugenics.
There is only one race & until we have branches of the common family tree that can't interbred so it shall remain.
The misconceptions that came out of eugenics will take a long time to be dispelled.
At least you asked. Most people never question that "Every body knows its true." mentality.
The issue is the development of native society. There were Native cities larger then anything in Europe.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 Really? didn't know that. I don't even remember what i meant from an half hour ago. I think the technology that they had before was less advanced (not specificallly talking about evolution) they weren't able to adjust, and since then have had a hard time in society. (sometimes) that might be why natives seem to feel that they are treated poorly. Although someone might have actually done an actual study and proven me wrong already.
theruder9 1 week ago
@theruder9 Well Natives knew that Bathing was good which had fallen out of fashion in Europe since the fall of Rome. Native culture was different in some ways farming was superior. Crops such as the potato revolutionized European society when brought back
A good example is the Look up here on YouTube "Ingenuity of the Inuit:Shit Knife"
The Idea that one culture is superior to others depends on how you define it. If I'm stronger then you does that mean I'm better? Of course not.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@theruder9 First Nations who have managed to regain their cultural heritage do much better than those who haven't. First Nations trying to assimilate by and large just doesn't work.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
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@TrueMetis severedtesticles is none other then our old troll MegaTheBrit. I guess he got tired of pretending to be British.
So he comes up with a name that mocks Canadians implying "we have no balls" then goes on with the same crap he did before. Crapping upon Canada down playing British contributions during the wars.
I must say he does put a great deal of effort in to these debates.
Too bad he can't be bothered to try being honest.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Obama wasn't torn between loyalty to heritage & Nation. And that is the issue right there.
Identity.
It is important that I'm Native. You are supposed to care. Just are you care about the things that make up your identity. Say Irish, Scottish, Welsh traditions or any matter of faith. The groups we belong to & through that belonging our self identity is formed.
Its who we are & we take that in to any new relationships we form.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 I don't give a shit about my ethnic origins. It doesn't define who I am at all, so why should I care? It's all bullshit. But since you brought it up, Dutch, English, Scottish and Irish. But beyond knowing wht they are, I don't care. I feel no pull or loyalty to any of them.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles So define the American identity. I'll start you off.
1st. Its not British. They don't have a Queen. They are quite proud of that & I've noticed most don't think very highly of those who still have one.
I only point this out because they have made a rather large deal about not being British as central to that core identity that we all consider important.
Some may say how alike our cultures are but they spilled a great deal of family blood to make that distinction. So accept that
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 and @severedtesticles
I think you two got off on the wrong foot. Perhaps you gents should start over. No shame in shaking hands and starting again with mutual civility and understanding.
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants I'm cool with that.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@trouzerpants It's more complected then you might think. There are Canadians a minority thank God, English out around Alberta region that are Republicans. Wishing to abolish the Monarchy & turn Canada in to another US state.
They are WASP's & supremacists. Americans in all but name.
As a Native I find them rather offensive. They don't understand the differences between Canada & the US.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 So are you saying Americans are all WASPS and supremacists? It's funny how the Canadians who hate Americans the most are the ones who have hardly met any and talked to any in person. They see Fox News and think that it reperesents all Americans.
I've lived in both the US and Canada and I've been to Europe on 3 times and I can tell you the, while there are differences, Americans and Canadians have far more in common with each other than differences. We're family. Deal with it.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles I've got Native blood.
What you personally call Americans & Canadians are actually small group.
For Example you don't include French Canadians in you comparison of similarities.
You consider them a different group as Anne Coulter does.
What I call Canadian Starts with Natives includes French & later English, & later still Loyalist Americans & Africans excetera.
I embrace the differences as adding to our collective culture.
Yours is White English Christian that's all.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You make an awful lot of assumptions about me and the cultural make up of American society. Based on what you've said you've obviously never been there. There are greater cultural and ethnic variances in the United States than there are in Canada. Period. The idea of the USA being a "melting pot" while Canada is a "mosaic" is a Canadian perpetuated myth.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You've got native blood? WTF is that supposed to mean? Am I supposed to be impressed or somehow subdued by a typically pathetic sense of Canadian cultural sensitivty?
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@trouzerpants I'm not so sure anymore. I was willing to put everything behindus, but the guy seems to genuinely hate Americans. I have many American family and friends. As nations, we've had some rough patches, but overall remained strong allies. For all our diffeences, we still share much in common, and our boys have fought and bled together on the same side in several wars, There's assholes on both sides. No need to add to it.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
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trouzerpants 1 week ago
Let me just state that during WWII, it took a combined allied effort to defeat Hitler. No single country could've beaten him alone.
As for WWI, the American presence was nowhere near as important as WWII however, the extra manpower played it's role in the defeat of Germany.
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants Somebody is false flagging your posts as spam.
I wonder who?
I guess if they can't think of a counter argument that's their best response. Pathetic isn't it?
XD
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 It's not me. If I'm not flagging your responses, with their petty insults and blatant anti-Americanism, as spam, why would I flag trouzerpants' far more measured and reasoned posts?
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666
I dunno, mate. It's happened to me before. Happens a lot to Ninja too, have you noticed? I always do my best to "unspam" posts that have been false-flagged.
It's Ok. It's only YT!!
;-)
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants Some times copy paste replies like quotes will have it done automatically by Youtube but these posts were in particular were your comments about American boasting.
Some one had to tag those post in particular.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
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trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants Good post. I'm just taking issue with my fellow Canadians with "little brother" syndrome who seem to think it's ok to counter American arrogance and ignorance with equal measure of Canadian arrogance and ignorance.
For example, another popular Canadian myth about the USA is that their later arrivals in both world wars amounted to smaller, almost insignificant contributions....as if the're completely unaware that over 100,000 Americans died in WW1 and over 400,000 in WW2.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 well we never have gotten a chance to fight a war on our own
solarbomb69 1 week ago
@solarbomb69 Riel, not that we are proud of that or anything. Far from it but it happened.
"Remerciez, Madame Forget."
"In a little while it will be over. We may fail. But the rights for which we contend will not die."
"My people will sleep for one hundred years, but when they awake, it will be the artists who give them their spirit back.'
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
so the ones who desvered the most respect are the russians (everyone thought they were going to get there asses handed to em but didnt)
solarbomb69 1 week ago
and any way the ones who rescued our asses were the russians they also suffered then most losses of the war
solarbomb69 1 week ago
ok before america even began thinking of jooning the war canada was helping. canada was a major factor that prevented the germanys from weaking britians food supply and other matrials(plus we came up with the convoy system). When america started sending supplys to britian the germen u boats had a easy time taking them out since they were unprotected (since america didnt use the convoy system of the bat)
solarbomb69 1 week ago
cool video
MegaMawien 1 week ago
awsome
MegaMawien 1 week ago
awsome
MegaMawien 1 week ago
Funny how Canadians talk tough about never having lost a war when they've never fought one on their own.
Easy to win when you're always relegated to a supporting role to the British army. lol
Try fighting Japan on your own and see what happens. Yeah, thought so.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles When was the last war the US fought on your own?
In that war did you by any chance out number & out gun your enemy better the 50/1?
How many wars has the US fought solo where you didn't have overwhelming advantage?
Would that number be zero by any chance?
You try fighting Japan solo moron. Are you forgetting that China did most of the fighting in that theater of war?
Are you forgetting the UK gave you the design for the Bomb?
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 LOL, CHINA? China wasn't fighting Japan, they were getting slaughtered by them. Japan started losing only when the Americans got involved. The only thing China did most of with Japan was dying. Just as the USSR did all the heavy lifting against Germany, it was the USA that did all the heavy lifting against Japan.
I'm Canadian, BTW, I just have American friends and family and am continually embarrased by how so many Canadians feel they have to bash the USA. It's childish.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles I also have American friends and family, and it's rather interesting how they've reacted when we've actually gone and looked up the supposed facts they claim. Perhaps you should do the same.
The fact remains that the American propaganda machine is just as effective (if not more so) than the Soviet and Nazi machines were. It's almost embarrassing the things they've convinced their citizens...
Which is more childish, ignorant arrogance or calling them on it?
gogmorgoaway 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Funny how the US managed to lose plenty of wars even with help yet still pretend they didn't.
Funny how the US acts like they actually mattered in WW1 like the outcome wasn't decided before they even joined.
Funny how in both WW's Canada became known for taking basically any objective assigned regardless of numbers it was facing.
Funny how the US just totally ignores Australia, NZ, the Netherlander, The UK, The Soviet Union, and China in the Pacific Theatre.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis Your statement "Funny how the US acts like they actually mattered in WW1 like the outcome wasn't decided before they even joined." is so far from the truth it proves just how clueless you really are. The arrival of the Americans is what ended that war when it did. The Germans still had plenty of fight left in them.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@TrueMetis "Funny how in both WW's Canada became known for taking basically any objective assigned regardless of numbers it was facing."
Like Dieppe? The Canadians sure took the hell out of that one.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Dieppe was a raid to test the water for D-Day.
If you think D-Day would have been better with out the lessons learned from Dieppe you are a bloody fool.
If you think China didn't keep Japan from unleashing a world of hurt upon the USA you are twice the fool.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 "Dieppe was a raid to test the water for D-Day."
There were also clear objectives that all failed. Canadians try to dress Dieppe up as anything other than the disasterous military failure that it was.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You're conveniently forgetting that the US was fighting Japan whilst committing the majority of its forces to the war in Europe. China or not, if the US had been able to commit the enirety of its militarty power against Japan the result would have been the same. Japan had absolutely no hope of deafeating the United States.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Excuse me but Canada was there for the fall of Hong Kong. Pearl Harbor didn't get the worse of the Japanese attacks. The US only got a tiny taste of the hell in the Pacific compared to China, India, Australia or a dozen other nations.
Are you seriously trying to suggest you were all alone or that the US bled more then these other nations as Europe was dealt with?
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 what I'm saying is just as we (Canada, Britain, USA) played a supporting role to the Soviets defeating Nazi Germany, anyone else involved in the war against Japan played a supporting role to the USA. The Red Army delivered all the major knock-out punches to the Wehrmacht and the USA delivered all the major knock outs to the Japanese Imperial Army.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 I realize we were all on the same team. I've been to Normandy and been to the US cemetary at Omaha. over 10,000 Americans buried there. It really is a sobering sight. They were/are our allies and so many Canadians loves to shoot their mouths off about Americans being "late". So fucking what? They fought beside our guys and bled and died beside our guys. They deserve just as much respect as we give our soldiers.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles So what if they act as if we were not there?
How do you think these fucking shooting our mouths off conversations begin?
You are the ass hole who four posts ago was talking about America fighting the Japanese all by them selves while rescuing us all in Europe.
These conversations start when Americans spit upon our contribution.
They get the same respect they give which is damn little.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You like to put words in other peoples' mouths, don't you? I never said that the Americans "rescued us all in Europe"...I said they committed the bulk of their forces there. Still, the Americans contributions to the war in Europe were undeniably massive and Canadians resent them for it. D-Day, for example, would have been impossible without them.
You're obviously like so many other Canadians with "little brother syndrome" and a petty hatred for Americans.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 "They get the same respect they give which is damn little."
And you know this, of course, because you've personally talked to a large amount of Americans about it, right?
/sarcasm
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Its amazing the number of people who you can meet through the internet & just how often when challenging Americans on preconceptions about almost any topic they change it to how they saved our asses in WW2.
Yes that's quite often how the topic gets brought up.
Do you want to trace back to see who brought it up this time?
It wasn't me.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 Perhaps it was brought up because of the litany of posts on this video by Canadians rubbing Americans' noses in the fact they failed in their attempts to conquer Canada? Canadians aren't immune to arrogance or historical ignorance either. I bet I can find at least 50 claims here that Canadians "burned down the White House" when in fact it was British regulars fresh from the war against France who did it.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Let me ask our Queen whose people burned down the white house.
She says it was her people.
See you are drawing lines of distinction which are irrelevant. The only true Canadians at that point were the French. The inhabitants of upper Canada were born in America (Loyalists) or Ireland or Scotland or Native.
The only unifying element with any of the forces in battle was the Monarchy & oh look we still have a British Queen & every single one of them was fighting for Canada.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 and if the Queen knows anything about her nation's and empire's history, she'll tell you that British born troops, veterans of the war against Napolean, were shipped over for a retaliatory attack on Washington. It was the first time these troops had ever stepped on North American soil. Nobody born and raised in Upper Canada was even within 300 miles of Washington when the British torched it. Yet Canadians still claim is was they who did it. Ridiculous.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Excuse me, who do do think manned the ships who brought them there numb skull?
You think the British only impressed Americans? Britain relied so heavily upon Canadian sailors there were riots in St. John's, Halifax & Quebec City over the excessive use of the practice.
Again you are drawing lines that didn't exist. Splitting hairs over nonsense.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You're really stretching it...using your logic, the British defeated themselves in the "American" (or British?) Revolutionary War?
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Revolutionary War was more of a civil war then anything else. The leadership wasn't Natives or slaves throughing off British oppressors but a group of whining over privileged slave owning wealthy British elitists.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 I guess, again using your logic, that it was Canadians who had their asses handed to them in the Battle of New Orleans? Or is that a loss you're not willing to accpet as your own? THAT battle belongs to the British?
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles They fought for Canada.
Tell me smart ass where is Ross buried?
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You're avoiding the questions. Who lost the Battle of New Orleans? Canada or Great Britain? Since you claim Canadians burned down the White House, they must have lost that battle then, right?
Canada didn't even exist then. The United States did not declare war on Canada, the declared war on Great Britain. Everyone fighting under the British flag was fighting for Great Britain.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Again you are drawing lines that didn't & still don't exist. Demanding I label the British Colony of Canada as a different identity then the independent nation of Canada.
The point of which is to confuse the issue not bring clarity.
It was a unified front coordinated for the defense of Canada.
Since the political party that lead the USA at that time no longer exists you can no longer take credit for Baltimore. Loose the anthem Yankee.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Since the cannons provided by Lafayette were French & the cannons won the day in New Orleans Americans are stealing credit from the French.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 Then every armoured battle won by Canadians in WW2 was actually an American victory as we used American armour...
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles That's an interesting story actually. Canadians built a few armoured vehicles during WW2 the Ram (which would be the basis of the Kangaroo APC), the Valentine (which the Russians loved), and the Sexton SP gun. The Rams were designed based on the M3 Lee, seeing many improvements and limited action. This in turn inspired the M4 Sherman which incorporated all elements the Ram had improved upon them.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis Of course Canadians being Canadians what did we do when we got our hands on the Sherman? Modified it of course! Thicker more sloping armour, longer range, a different set of tracks turned it into the Grizzly 1 cruiser made in Montreal. When it became apparent that the US made enough Shermans though we used the Grizzly chassis to produce the Sexton mk 2 the commonwealths answer to the US's M7 priest
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis
Same here, we turned it into the Firefly by fitting it with the mighty Brit 17 pounder, hoping it wouldn't turn us into "Tommy Cookers" quite so readily..
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants Which resulted in the only tank capable of taking on the Panther and Tiger tanks, making them priority target for German anti-tank crews. Thank you on behalf of the commonwealth for sending some of those our way BTW.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis
Even with the Firefly, we still had to get in a lil' too close for comfort..
Those Tigers packed 88's..
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants Better than not being able to take them down at all.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis Still Tiger and Panther fodder. We never had parity with German armour.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles No one ever did, probably why we buy German tanks now.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis
Just imagine if they could've mass produced their Tigers (not to mention their KING Tigers!)
Lucky their 262's, V1's & V2's came in too late to make a real difference as well.
Otherwise, game over.
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants People like to say that had Germany only made a few tactical and strategic changes they could have won. This is not true, except in one place. Had they focused on and been able to capture certain strategic resources like oil things could have changed drastically. Because of a lack of oil less than half of their forces were mechanized. Instead of relying on trucks needing horses and other beasts of burden. Oil limited the number of tanks they could field significantly.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
Don't forget Goering's pomposity. He thought he could KO the RAF in 2 weeks.Through chance, a lost bomber (possibly an He 111) dropped it's bombs over London. Through retaliation, Churchill ordered a raid over Germany, infuriating the Fuhrer who then ordered Goering to bomb London. This gave us time to repair the airfields which were taking a right pounding. Kinda same thing at Pearl, had the carriers not been at sea on exercise, they too would've been lost. Bye Bye Pacific campaign..
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants They also didn't go through with a final raid that would have destroyed many key supply depots, preventing the US from repairing many of their ships and destroying a lot of fuel.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis I think if the Luftwaffe had stayed on target in the Battle of Britain and remained focused on the airfields and radar sights, they would have knocked Britain out of the war entirely and won the whole thing. The RAF was weeks from total collapse when Hitler and Goering switched to bombing cities. That gave the RAF the reprieve it so desperately needed. A Wehrmacht unfettered by an unsecured Western flank would have defeated the Red Army by '42, IMO.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles
Haha - you read my mind!
See post below..
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants LOL
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Right I forgot about that. Yes a huge fuck up from Germany's perspective. Not sure if I agree with total collapse though, the RAF could always be rebuilt in Canada and other parts of the commonwealth and Germany could never get the naval forces together for an invasion. So while Britain would have been less of a threat it would have still been their as a staging point for the Allies.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@trouzerpants I read somewhere that the front armour of the King Tiger was never penetrated by ground fire ever on the Western Front. Only flank/rear shots or airpower took them out.
More Tigers (both variants) were lost during the war to mechanical failure than enemy action.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles The King Tiger had 18 cm (7 inch) armour on the front, there wasn't anything in the arsenal of any country with the power to penetrate that. You'd still be hard pressed to find something that could deal with that.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis King Tiger was a beast of a tank but I'm pretty sure any modern main battle tank could fire a round right through the front glacis plate of a King Tiger like a hot knife through butter.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles A modern tank sure, but I have a feeling most anti-armour weapons would be about as effective as they are on modern tanks. Ever see one of those videos of a tank shrugging off a half dozen RPG rounds like mosquito bites? Wouldn't surprise me if the King Tiger could take the same punishment. Really hard to get the kind of power need in something you can sling over your shoulder.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis I was at the Bovington tank museum in England a few years ago and got to stand beside the Tiger 1 and King Tiger they have there...they are *massive* beasts.
Huge respect to the men *of any nation* that had to go up against them.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles *Adds place to go onto bucket list* Thank you very much.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis It's amazing...More than one Tiger 1...they even have a fully rebuilt Tiger 1 that's fully operational. If you're luckey, they take it out 3-4 times per year, but no more than that for fear of a very expensive mechanical breakdown! lol
Every major German and Soviet tank of WW2 is there, as well as Allied tanks and modern tanks. If you're a "tread-head" it is THE place to go.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles If there's that many I may have to avoid it. Otherwise I'd probably end up kicked out for trying to take one apart... that might be a good way to steal one actually, take it apart piece by piece making sure it still looks fine.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@severedtesticles The reason French & Natives sided with Britain in 1812 was because of the nature of Americans.
“Till I came here,” he wrote Bathurst, “I had no idea of the fixed determination which there is in the heart of every American to extirpate the Indians and appropriate their territory.”
Americans & what ever the hell you are never accepted us as part of this country & because of that truth existing at the heart of American culture no native can be a true part of it.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 because we all know the British treated the natives in Canada so well! lol. Have any wool blankets in your house?
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Here we go again. Why did the yanks separate from the Empire?
Who are the traitors & who stayed loyal to their cultural roots? Who did a better job of keeping the treaties? Who broke the treaties as soon as covenant.
It means nothing to you. You don't see any difference between what happened here & in the USA.
There is a huge difference from what we saw. It was bad in Canada. It was evil unleased in the USA.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You saying that British treatment of the natives was good because it was better than how the Americans treated their natives is kinda moronic The Brits were still bastards to the natives and so were Canadians.
Both the Brits and Americans were bastards to the natives and both made extensive use of the slave trade. Germany also exterminated millions of people. All three nations have moved on from the wrongs of their past. How long must they live in the shadows of those wrongs?
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You got anything else? I can only debate with a bigot for so long.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles I don't know where to begin. I really don't.
No person of American birth can love America with out hating Natives.
We are not part of their world view. We Don't count as human. We had to be exterminated, driven away imprisoned in reservations in order for them to come to be.
At least Canadian culture has a place for us as part of the society, a part of the history distinct cultures as the French or Chinese who built the railroads or escaped slaves.
Part of the building process.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 So...it's not possible for an American to love their country, yet recognize that grievious wrongs were committed against the native peoples and hope that their country can help heal the wounds caused by those wrongs? Is it impossible for a German to love their country without hating Jews?
You really have a one dimensional view of people, particularlty Americans, don't you?
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Please stop false spam flagging my posts.
No its not. America needs a restart. The last one was the civil war but even then they never rejected the slave owning founding fathers as worthy role models. They never reexamined the core character of the nation.
They need to do that. Who are they? FOX news has a clearer vision of who they are as a nation then anyone down there. The rest don't know, how ever much they protest that they are something different.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 I am not false spamming your posts. You are obviously pissing people off with your racism. Keep at it it though, it only makes you look worse.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
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@severedtesticles The rest don't know, how ever much they protest that they are something different. They still elected Bush for 2 terms in office.
How can they hold up some one like Martin Luther King Jr. up as an example of who they are as a people when he was shot?
I'm surprised they haven't killed Obama yet. Didn't expect him to last this long. Its a good sign. There is hope for them but his color didn't come from a slave bloodline, he wasn't torn between loyalty to heritage & Nation.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 Seriously, can you do any better than posts based purely on bigotry and completey false notions about another country based on Canadian myths? I feel like I'm dealing with a teenager or, ever worse, someone in their 20's.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 At least now I finally dragged it out of you; you're an American-hating bigot. Now that it's out in the open, stop pretending, let's hear every ignorant thing you've got to say about an entire nation of people based solely on preconcieved notions.
I guess, according to you, I am not a true Canadian becuase I don't hate Americans.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Do Jews have a right hate unrepentant Nazis? I believe they do.
I Have problems enough here in Canada with the racist bigotry of Indian act built in to the structure of our government.
But in the USA they have not even begun the reconciliation process.
They still promote the slaughter of natives as great accomplishments. The monuments still stand to genocide. Jackson's face on a $20.
Tell me how any Native with an ounce of self respect could see anything but darkness in them?
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 Do you know the historical significance of the quote "None is too many?"
The man who said it is on Canada's $50 bill.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Part of the building process not an obstacle to be removed.
I know the history dude.
Every time the Canadian government has moved closer to being like the USA its gotten worse for us.
Adopting assimilation programs as in the US is what almost drove Quebec to separate.
Those Supremacy attitudes have no place here. They bring only division not unity.
Canadians have to accept the differences to be Canadian.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 You have such false and dleusional misconceptions of what Canada is, it;s almost funny. I checked your channel and you obviously have a huge axe to grind with Americans. You paint them all with the same brush motivated by hatred and that, sir, makes you a racist. Which is all the more ironic considering you are calling all Americans racists.
Keep playing your "oppressed Native" card, though. I bet you got a free education at a Canadian college or university. Glad I could help.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 Oh, poor baby. I wish I could pay no tax on everything and get a free college or university education.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles I really wish that was true, I'd be in university right now instead of washing dishes to gain experience to eventually join the military.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
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@severedtesticles You say "Oh, poor baby. I wish I could pay no tax on everything and get a free college or university education."
Feel free to move on to a reservation & give me my fucking land back.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@severedtesticles
This is a patriotic Canadian video celebrating THIER independence, just as Americans celebrate theirs on July 4th. In 1812, it was Brit Canadians, French Canadians, Redcoats, some UEL's, natives, doesn't matter, they all fought for their independence under a single flag. Same goes for the Patriots during the rev: some Canadians (!), certain Indian tribes, Lafayette, Von Steuben & Rochambeau's boys, Spain, Holland et al, all fought under Washington's banner.
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants Of course as Canadians we have to disguise it as a joke cause if we actually act patriotic in a way that would be accepted amongst any other country we get looked at funny. Mention how Canada became the go to people in WW1 for taking difficult objectives, or how we revolutionized tactics during the same period, or how Canadian troops would be covertly switched with US and British troops because German troops would specifically avoid us and people look at us funny.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
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Excessive American pride is omnipresent here on YT: "you were beaten by nothing more than a few farmers with no shoes", "we saved you in BOTH world wars", "without us, you'd all be speaking German"
If I had a penny for every time I've heard/read sentiment such as that, I'd be a very wealthy man indeed.
For my money, Americans (more than most) do spout hyperbole & revel in unbearable hubris, even though much of it is myth, propaganda etc, drummed into 'em from a very early age.
trouzerpants 1 week ago 2
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I doubt this situation will change. Let's just live and let live. If you wanna watch/listen to/read Americans revel in their perceived glory, go to those places/sites/threads etc where you know you'll find just that. Same with Canadians, let them express their unity in a similar way - if you don't wish to encounter this, avoid those areas (wherever they may be) where you know you'll encounter it.
We all have pride, Christ, look at my page: Churchill & the BoB Memorial Flight!
trouzerpants 1 week ago 2
@severedtesticles You are an idiot playing with goal post trying to distort history to flatter American egos.
You might just as well argue Since Britain isn't an Empire any more they don't exist there for the US vanquished them.
Give me a break. Thanks giving was British colonials they weren't born there. I could just as easily claim the US steals credit for a British established tradition.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
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@severedtesticles You said "Funny how Canadians talk tough about never having lost a war when they've never fought one on their own.
Easy to win when you're always relegated to a supporting role to the British army. lol
Try fighting Japan on your own and see what happens. Yeah, thought so."
Sound familiar Numb nuts? Who was it that brought this crap in to the conversation?
You did. Which leads me to conclude you are a Yankee.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Do you see Canadians & French getting pissy about who sacrificed more?
Canadians & British? British & French?
No that never happens because we respect each others contributions.
America gets the shit because they crap on every one else.
Its karma.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
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@Eddythebeast666 "Do you see Canadians & French getting pissy about who sacrificed more?"
Yes...all the time.
"America gets the shit because they crap on every one else."
Really? Can you show me some examples? For every American who does what you claim there's a Canadian who does the same. Just like so many other Canadians with "little brother" syndrome.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Since Dieppe was a test and wasn't actually meant to take anything no, I'm thinking more like D-day proper when the Canadians hit farther into France than any other group.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis and then got pushed back by German counter attacks because the Canadians outpaced their British flank support too quickly? Yeah, that was smart.
Canadians made huge gains on D-Day, yes, but they lost them days later.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles Uh no, everything the Canadians captured on D-day remained in Allied control. I think what you may be referring to is either a group of 4 tanks making it to the final objective then retreating due to not having infantry support, or when the 9th Canadian Infantry Brigade began to advance on the 7th only to be pushed back to their D-day positions. That position being all of 4.8 km from Caen.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis While the 9th was pushed back the 7th was not, succeeding in capturing their final D-day objective. And the 8th was on their way to destroying a German radar site, with British commando help.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@TrueMetis NONE of the Allied objectives were captured on D-Day.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
@severedtesticles None of the final objectives no, D-day of course was planned in stages. Since landings succeeded on every beach every group completed at least one of their D-day objective. Of course if you were paying attention when I said the 7th captured their final objective I was talking about the next day June 7th.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@severedtesticles You seem to take great satisfaction out of Canadian deaths.
What ever claims of allegiance you claim to have I'd be shamed to have you on my side.
You are a petty & foolish troll taking cheap shots based mostly upon ignorance & a failure to understand the facts you are presenting as bait.
If your intent is to curb growing Canadian resentment of US arrogance by all means continue your efforts.
You do far more to justify negative attitudes toward the US then anything I could say.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 Say the ati-American troll....to take a page out of your book "Why the ad homiem attacks?!"
Go ahead, dispute the historical facts of anythig I said. Try.
severedtesticles 1 week ago
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@TrueMetis "Funny how the US managed to lose plenty of wars even with help yet still pretend they didn't."
Other than a debatable loss in 1812 and a clear loss in Vietnam...what other wars has the United States lost?
severedtesticles 1 week ago
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trouzerpants 1 week ago
@Planetar17 They accepted but the way they acted afterwards indicated they simply lied and never had any intention of carrying out the Articles. This was one of the reasons why Britain backed the Natives in the NorthWest Indian War against the US.
Lets be honest. With men like William Henry Harrison and Andrew Jackson leading the charge on the Native front the poor Indians had no chance. Harrison's personal diaries show he had no intention of honouring Native treaties.
Ninja1275 1 week ago
@Ninja1275 I'm not sure it's was a deliberate lie in the sense we would understand it today.
We have to look at what the USA was at the time. A loose coalition of nation states already close to war with it self.
The USA had proven incapable of honoring any of its treaties to this point. Failed to compensate loyalist as agreed in the Paris treaty. Failed to honor the agreement with France.
Madison was more like the head of a mob he could direct it but not rein it in.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666
Their reason for not honouring their debt to France was as a consequence of the French Revolution. They stated they owed Louis XVI, not some new republic. Kicked off the Quasi War..
trouzerpants 1 week ago
@trouzerpants That was the excuse yes, but France had backed the US revolution. So here are the people of France over throwing their government. Freedom freedom freedom & the people of the USA says screw you.
The US quibbles a bit about the rein of terror but they never hesitated to spill Loyalist blood. Why get so moral when the French do the same?
Just an excuse so they could get out of paying their debts.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 True but I don't think they ever had any intention of fulfilling the agreement. They probably only accepted it because they knew they could manipulate it into their favour or worm their way out of it.
Still at least Edward Nicolls left the Seminoles with a shit load of weapons and supplies to give them a fighting chance.
Ninja1275 1 week ago
@Ninja1275 Good point.
Especially considering the scum they sent to negotiate the treaty.
The War Hawk States knew The Feds were going to get the worst in the war & the Hawks being mostly inland & farmers had little to fear. (They certainly didn't expect Britain to Free & arm slaves) XD
Any way my point is that the States were not united.
The Northern States signed on to the British Anti Slave Trade act of 1807 & the southern States began smuggling slaves ignoring the law.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago
@Eddythebeast666 Brilliant example there, forgot about the differences in terms of Slavery between the States.
Ninja1275 1 week ago
@Ninja1275 Some of them might have believed the nation would honor its word but treachery was the nature of the nation.
All the grand talk of liberty & freedom was a mask for lawless exploitation of the weak. You couldn't trust them in anything.
They certainly didn't trust each other.
That's why they never gave the Federal government any power.
More then happy to stab each other in the back.
Eddythebeast666 1 week ago