a new pottery method 02

[humenbean]

You guys need to slow down and stop being so negative. This guy is finding his own mechanical (commercial to a point) way of throwing. Some of us (if not most these days) use a motor driven wheel. Not traditional to any extent.

[everendinghappiness]

i loled 

[fujiwararin]

I grew up in a factory that mass produces pots, that is the exact same method we use to mass produce our pots (Jiggering, like what most of them say)... It's definitely not a new method.

[roememe1]

i think the point of the video was to show innovation but yes... it would have taken about 1/3 of the time to throw the pot rather go through all that trouble.

[lfghj007]

to be honest, u cant say copying is alwayz bad bc u learn while copyin others.

however, japs did not even had enough skills to copy...

so~ as u know, they murdered and stole ppl from that country.

IN this CASE copyin is much better. lol

[StoneDalways]

Retarded. 

[kheeekho]

It takes more time to trim and scrape it .. why not make it the old fashioned way .. much more elegant .. All this just to control the wall thickness?

[laylali42]

Throwing pottery today is about it being handmade and artistic. If you just want a standard, manufactured bowl, why don't you just buy one at Walmart?

[bellissimotion]

If your aim is to mass produce identical forms why not just slip cast? Much quicker, easier and less pretentious.

[john6283a]

This is still pottery, however it is merely a form of "jollying". It makes uniform shapes time and again obviously. The real art here is in the forms created to jolly out the final form. Thank you for taking the time to post it.

[2882micski]

what makes art is the human element, this removes the human element

[albpoolshark]

I like this way in the sense that you can create many pieces to sell in a short amount of time. On the other hand, I would still prefer to throw things by hand because the sense of irregularity in the clay makes it more interesting to me

[YosarianCat22]

Mr Yamadasan makes it clear in the beginning. This is an alternative to traditional techniques intended for the elderly who may have issues with arthritis or handicapped individuals that are unable to throw. No one on this site is trying to replace traditional throwing techniques. . .it is just a way for those who can't throw to make a project and later glaze it. There are times when you traditional elitest jerks would learn how to read so you would read the text associated with this technique.

[IsaacEhoward]

Already been said but this is called jiggering. It's been done for several hundred years.

There is a time and place for industrial techniques mass production processes, and making handmade looking ceramics is not the venue. Making pots by hand seems to do a better job at it. But there are forms and ways of making that include industrial processes that can be done no other way. All I'm saying is that if you use an industrial method to produce ceramic work use it to your advantage.

[bahbleu]

This is an smart invention and I'm really happy that someone has invented such a unique technique, but I it removes any human aspect of touch. I think it would be more effective if you were slip casting at this point... Cool beans.

[m9zm]

You've got to be kidding. I am a clay neophyte and I can throw faster than this. If one is interested in mass production then make molds and slip-cast, much faster in the long run. You can assemble and pour a dozen molds in the time he "wood presses" one bowl.

[redolentrepartee]

As a means of doing production work, I suppose this would work, but why not just make a plaster mold (or several) and make slip cast ceramics?

[Octobre1976]

GG, avec cette méthode vous avez réussi à faire en 3.24 min un bol que n'importe quel potier fera en moins de 2min ;) bonne idée mais pas très rentable !

[gregssa]

Youtube has a video of a Jolly Jigger in action if you want to see how people who know what they are doing really do it.

[randydean888]

Sorry, I'm not a fan of this method. It takes the humanity out of throwing, whether it is for art or production. The perfection of a piece are in the slight imperfections. Without the hand-made aspects, a piece has no soul.

[sophiealexi]

lame.

[DavidsGem]

It seems to be more work than actually throwing the bowl the old fashioned way ....but it works for you cool beans

[MsKisa35]

какая симпатичная чашечка

[TheBrianEffect101]

the only yjhing that required any skill was trimming the foot

[TheBrianEffect101]

this is for pussies

[MaxwellRedd]

@blossombuttercup yes, and it would be unique, and it would be art, unlike this, this is not art, this aught as well be made in a factory, its pretty sad really.

[02amberlynn]

This really makes me sad. I like doing things the hard way, the old fashioned way...wedging the clay by hand, throwing the clay with my bare hands and forming the piece as I throw it. To each their own though.

[AkiraYamada147]

@02amberlynn

You are not a creator.

Because you do not pay attention to this new creation, I understand it.

You are a person of copying.

The copy is not bad at all. This is because all creation begins with a copy.

[02amberlynn]

@AkiraYamada147 -- Thank you Akira, I see what you mean. Something interesting to think about. :)

[SpookyCrab]

@AkiraYamada147 Way to make yourself sound like a dick while someone was saying what they prefer to do. Sorry that we aren't like you, Pottery God.

[02amberlynn]

@AkiraYamada147

Mr. Yamada, all creation does not come from a "copy", without an "original creation", there would be nothing to copy. It takes great skill to make things in repetition. I know from my own experience, it is very hard to do even without assistance from a great tool like this. I am an artist/designer, I enjoy using my own ideas and experimenting to create new things, not only "copies". To speak of someone you do not know as if you knew them, is ignorant. -Respectfully, Amber

[gregssa]

The Jigger Machine was invented in Britain during the 19th Century and allowed more efficient production of repetitive forms such as dinnerware. Plaster casts were made of original pieces and then combined with specialized profile tools. These were used to press clay into the molds at very high speed using both centrifugal force and the tool shape to mold the soft clay. The following day the drying clay shrunk and popped out of the mold and was then trimmed and finished as needed.

[slimjim790]

so what happens when that mold becomes saturated you have to go back to hand throwing

[cathygem]

This seems to me much more work and is slower than actually hand throwing a piece.

[RS1253]

Not New!!! Ever seen Jigger & Jolly Work - used in UK since the 18th century. Sterile and soulless.

[icgitar]

This is very very interesting. however, the problem for me is that throwing, the bare essentials of throwing is using things like your hands, ribbing tools, needle tools, water, sponges, wheel, just the whole entire experience of using your hands to mold, shape, and form clay into a basin that is capable of holding something, also known as a bowl. So to see this invention, I must say, it is very inventive, but personally, I do not support it because it takes away the experience of throwing clay.

[TheDeduction]

Not only is this far slower than what an even moderately trained potter can do, it takes the human element almost COMPLETELY out of the piece- you might as well use porcelain presses and molds. Also, the integrity of the clay is lost as instead of having a uniform particle movement, they are wrecked into a jumbled pattern from the cheap removal of the clay- then you unevenly heat it and then move it afterward? I severely doubt these will last compared to hand made. A true debauchery of the art.

[leatherwoood]

what a load of toss

[leatherwoood]

What a load of toss

[trillfire]

would be easier jus to throw it with ur hands lol

[oppossumsrock2]

i think this takes the art out of wheel throwing. it kinda made me sad, things like this make make artists obsolete :/ cool, but disheartening all at the same time

[AkiraYamada147]

@oppossumsrock2

In our country 200 years before, the lowest skill of professional wheel thrower was 300 bowls throw and cut every day. Good one can 500 throw and cut every day. They start throwing from about 10 years old.

After continue it 10 years he allowed to throw an own designed bowl.

And continue it 30 years one of 100 person selected and called master.

What he made is relly good job. But amatures may not understand it.

Throwing itself is not an art, And it is not the show.

[greenlocomotive]

@AkiraYamada147

あんたの考えは５００戸を作れる人の作品が理想ですね。そう言う­だたらマシン作った物の方が一番だ。１００円屋でマシンの作品が­安い買える、そうして、陶芸家が要らないんですね、ざんねん。

[HellHound60248]

@AkiraYamada147 Your a douchebag.

[rosiek26]

@AkiraYamada147 in your country they clearly no speako english. GTFO

[NancyToday]

Very interesting. I thought that it was much faster to just put your clay on the wheel, center it and form the bowl. But I guess this works well if you can't center or if you don't want to deal with flops. You probably don't have a very large learning curve with this. Probably good for children, people with limited use of their hands or who suffer from arthritis. Interesting invention.

[SVercelli]

What is the point of this. you are essentially doing mediocre mass production. by that i mean no disrespect

[xjackie93]

I like getting my hands dirty the old fashioned way. and there's people out there that would just throw 7 of these normally during the length of this video... =/

[roshan77eduk]

excellent innovation..... well done mate!!! im going to try this myself

[FlamingHomelessDude]

to me it would be more of a frustration than a good tool.

[Gehinomanko]

Too many tools. Good if you want to mass produce. To me( again I state "to me") mass production is the death of artistry itself. Oh well.

[MetalCranium3]

in this time:

i could wedge clay

throw a few pots

wedge more clay

throw a few more pots

let them dry

fire them

glaze them

and then fire them again.

[NancyToday]

@MetalCranium3 Wow, you are VERY fast! LOL

[littlebigprominence]

Ive been doing pottery for about 1/4th of a year and i think i could make a better bowl in a shorter amount of time >.> and i would have more fun doing it 2

[zedword138]

these forms are dead. no pulling or real centering, no torque on the clay, no touching.

a perfect tool for mass production.

sadly this is not art, this is walking backwards away from art towards assembly lines.

sorry, very unimpressed

[thirteenfingers]

I get the idea, but I'm not sure I see the point.

It allows you to make sets with all items the same size, shape and weight... just like the mass production potteries churn out by the thousand.

You couldn't honestly call it thrown or hand made so you'd be directly competing with mass production which can make more, quicker and cheaper. "spiral grooves" = hand made look so it's going for that style but it's not.

I think you'd need to be more able bodied to move the molds than to just throw.

[PaisleyPlace]

This is a rather ingenious way of throwing; however, I believe it takes away from the beauty and the actual art of throwing by hand. I would be more willing to pay a lot money for a traditionally thrown piece of pottery than this one. This is a step below mass production pottery, which I despise b/c it has no spirit and no soul in it. I was taught that each thrown piece of pottery carries w/ it a special part of the potter who threw it. This doesn't. It's like cheating.

[TheAspire5040]

I think it's a good invention which can perfected from time to time. Just like those days when the car was invented, there are people who preferred to ride horses. But as the time passed people began to accept changes. And more beautiful and faster cars are invented. That's what modernisation is.

[PaisleyPlace]

@TheAspire5040 The trouble with the invent of the car is that it was the beginning of people starting to become obese b/c driving was easier than walking and walking is what kept them thinner & healthier. Now, the USA especially has far too many obese people w/ severe health conditions that could be prevented if they'd walk vs drive/ride to where they want to go (of course for those that can walk) I can't walk far due to joint disease. If I go 2far, I can't get back but I do walk around our yard

[AkiraYamada147]

@TheAspire5040

Thank you very much for watching a video.

[SwGkentuckyC]

while i like the idea and inventivness (not even sure its a word) but its pretty time consuming i could throw 4 bowls this size in the time it took to make one just doesnt seem worth it to me

[D3C4P17473D]

I can see using this if you don't like to throw....... you go this route and you might as well have a machine make it for you.

[mstrand45]

mechanizing my favorite art.....great.

[blossomsbuttercup]

Wouldn't it be quicker just to throw a bowl without all that fancy stuff?

[TheDraindeimo]

@blossomsbuttercup exactly what i was thinking, by the time this guy had his "moistening" done i could have thrown 2 goblets

[PaisleyPlace]

@TheDraindeimo I agree. Even with my joints & the nerve damage in my right arm/hand, I could have thrown the same piece a few times over by the time he finished even w/ my disabilities. The secret to throwing for the elderly is to use more upper body strength like the arm pressing over the coning hand. Also, tucking into that thigh helps tremendously. The biggest assistance for ms is having pre-wedged clay b/c I can't wedge it anymore b/c of the joint disease. It's painful & causes lupus flares

[supersizeit121]

cool if youre into this sort of thing but its definitely cheating and takes no skill what so ever

[stefanmckinley]

Very nice problem solving, but I think i'd rather have a simple hand thrown bowl.

[SelGomezRox11]

This takes the fun out of throwing. If you just want to make a vase, but you dont want to go through all the trouble, then it might be a good idea

[1gr8gft]

great "idea", but uh, it takes longer this way, than the original way to throw. I could see it being used in manufacturing Dollar Store items though...

[FlashMcFlowers]

Wow!! With this new, amazing method, potters can make mass-produced, completely inorganic, soul-less products!! Neat! No more grubbing around in the clay! Now, potters can just pay someone to design their pots, get the molds made somewhere, some underdeveloped country where thedy can pay the workers 10 cents a week, , and then have some 5 & 6 year olds finish the pots!

[2020abcd]

No matter what the "purists" say; I think this is good use of technology.

[BZ121280]

You passed Shop Class, You passed Computer Aided Design, You FAILED Pottery Class. Then you used your abilities to make a video that proves it takes longer make pottery without pottery skills. I guess that's some sort of amazing.

[godofwarc93]

or you could just throw it

[ba470]

nice job but by had much more easy :)

[oddsource]

innovation of the potter wheel... great job.

[jmg1957]

too bad...............

[ncponder]

Yeah ...sorry not throwing. Admirable that you believe this to be good for handicapped and such but the art of throwing is a skill that should be learned and mastered before you even think of decoration...I know thats hard core but much appreciation and love for the strength of the form is developed through this process and the final decoration will reflect this. Throwing is a skill but born from that studied skill comes the beauty of the potters art.

[andrewwiddis]

Thanks for sharing the idea. A cheap jigger jolly!

The time taken to learn how to throw should not be discarded. You could throw a few small bowls in 7:55 mins.

Or, spend a few grand and get an industrial press. Now that's fun!

[Kliss114]

Idk, that much for a simple bowl just doesn't appeal to me

[Darkcloud9071]

there is a similar technique in wood cutting, called a Circle jig

[ilikepi1234]

amazing take on pottery it left me at a loss for words

[AkiraYamada147]

Thank you very much for watching a video.

[timseepots]

Or you could throw it? It seems like too much work for a kinda shoddy bowl. Maybe interesting for other forms. Akira, there are some good ideas now you just need to make it look easier.

[AkiraYamada147]

Dear Tim Thank you for seeing my video. I regenerate the video according to your advice.

[timseepots]

I have thought about your idea for a few days, it seems very close to jiggering and I was wondering how does this method appeal to you over jiggering or jolleing.

[AkiraYamada147]

It is correct that you say. However, it is very difficult to make the gypsum mold. Therefore, to use Jig machine, we must buy the type. ohterwise, it is necessary to order. However, if it is this tool, anyone can easily make types.

[timseepots]

So your idea is more for the hobbie person to make their own mold ok I understand.

[AkiraYamada147]

You are mastering of the potter's wheel. Please recall having taken several years to master it. A lot of people stop it before mastering. To make the ceramic art known more, I want to save such people. I cannot be deserting a handicapped person, and an elderly, not good at the potter's wheel. I want to propose this tool as a step for that.

[timseepots]

I completely understand I think it is a noble adventure. If I I can think of any advice I will let you know. Tim

[AkiraYamada147]

Thank you Tim. I am very glad of your word. Please look at my homepage. and give your advice to me.

[PaisleyPlace]

@AkiraYamada147 I am actually legally blind w/some light perception & a great deal of help from a zoom prog built into my screen reader for days when my vision is better than others; I also have inoperable nerve damage in my hands esp right hand, and joint disease. What helps most is pre-wedged clay and a wheel speed to allow me to feel the shape I am forming, esp on days when my sight totally disappears on me; hwr, for a person who CAN throw well but the mechanics must be accomplished 1st.

[PaisleyPlace]

@AkiraYamada147 If you want to see how a disabled man throws on the wheel better than someone with all their limbs in place, google around online. I think the son's name is danxxx or something like that. It's on YT. His father, whose in the UK btw, lost his hand in an accident yet he throws some of the most beautiful pieces I've seen with one hand and a stump. It doesn't slow him down & he throws very well. He is better than many w/ both hands & again, he has only 1 hand and the stump on other.

[snapLuki]

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