The 6.4 and the new 6.7 are good engines, The bad engine is the 6.0 that followed the 7.3. Ford and Navistat still at odds over that one, still in the courts. Thats why the 6.7 is a Ford, not Navistar designed engine
The problem with the V10, and all the 2 valve Triton engines is they blow spark plugs out of the heads. Problem is so common that Ford cut the warranty on the Triton 2V heads to 30K miles. The thread holes aren't deep enough, plus the heads are aluminum, so you can't tighten the plugs very tight. The engine (V10) is a powerful engine and not so bad MPG, just the heads are the deal breaker
V10s are way powerful but if I were do get a 250 or up I'd get a diesel just cause they do pull more and it makes more sense.. It's like driving a 450 in gas that's retarded.
Not everyone wants a 6.4 liter Turbo Diesel engine, although I agree you can get better fuel economy and more power diesel engines do cost more. Not only to buy but also to fix.
@ Hammet43, why the V10? I'd say the way quicker throttle response (no turbo lag, lighter internals) and at least 6k cheaper. with diesel often more expensive than gas, that's an awful lot of miles to get even
In all this diesel VS. V10 debate, people fail to mention that the diesel option is at least 6 grand more out of the 'ol pocket book. That being said, I'm a diesel man all the way. And BTW, the new clean diesels suck. Our trucks at work have the 6.4 and average about 7-8 mpg. What confuses me is, they want to clean up the air so they make the clean diesel. But the new diesels get crap mileage. So if you have to fill up 2x as often, is the air & our atmosphere really better off?! Stupid Govt regs
@nickmaurus You got that right buddy. :) The gov't ultimately wants to bankrupt our country by doing things like this all the regulations and stuff. What a bunch of BS. The next president in office needs to cut the EPA'S funding wayyyy back and that'll be a start in the right direction even though I think we might be past the point of no return. :(
@nickmaurus The exhaust that comes out of the new diesels is almost cleaner than the air around it... so essentially they're making the air cleaner at a faster rate!
sounds like a tuner to me... i wouldnt get the banks.. i thought about it but then i decided flowmaster. and if you check my video out... mine louder then this and sounds like a "monster exhaust" ahaha but i can honistly say it looks good
i just responded to this comment like you and our numbers for the engine options were slightly different, so i had to go to Fords website and check it out myself just to see...
the V-10 is a $695.00 dollar option
the diesel is a $9,325 dollar option
DANG!!
If your reading Hammett43, thats why he got the V10 over the Diesel....
All I can say is... Why!!??..... There's the 6.4 option sitting there and you say," I want the v10 please".. Why!!??... 6.4= more power, better mpg, better resale, and you'll save a couple of penguins while you're at it..
some people don't use there pickups as every day drivers, probably like this guy, and only drives about 6,000 miles a year using their truck for what its meant to do.. haul.
This thing can tow pretty respectable numbers, is a work horse, can last forever and MOST importantly is $7,200 less than the Powerstroke. For some that extra 7K just isnt worth it then this engine can do what they need it too.
because the v10 is a far better motor than that POS 6.4 international, and its alot cheaper by a FEW thousand dollars, and if he needs to tow some decent sized stuff the v10 will handle it, hell my grandads 5.43v f250 pulls our 22k pound no problem
actually the 6.4 isn't an international the 7.3 was but you are right the 6.0 and the 6.4 suck ford should have stayed with the 7.3 but just sayin international makes fairly good engine they need to get detroit or cat to make an engine for em that'd be sweet
the 7.3 couldnt pass the emissions back then, and couldnt keep up with the 5.9 CTD nor the 6.6 DTD. and the detroit diesel sucks too. do you not remember the 6.2 and 6.5 diesels GM used in the 90's? those were worthless
There is a drone around the 1400-2800 RPM range. It's annoying. On the highway, above 65 MPH, it's pretty quiet.
This engine costs less to buy and less to maintain. A late model 6.4 PSD gets about the same MPG, a little better when towing. I tow a 22 ft boat, so real heavy towinf isn't an issue for me.
I think I'm going to replace the muffler on this sytem. Just too much drone.
@JKBradV10 Sorry man, but a diesel will always get better MPG due to less revolutions of the engine when compared to a gasser. Also diesels will usually, with a couple exceptions, do better at towing. Diesels have much more torque than gas.
@miller45103 My friend.. Its not due to less revolutions, thats not always the case. Diesels are simply more efficient, in addition disel fuel is more energy dense. So they actually use down to HALF of what a gas engine consumes. Even if diesel costs a dollar more it aint twice the price, so the extra cost at purchase will be worth it in the long run. I live in Norway, diesel is cheaper than gas here so its the only thing I consider for daily transport. A gas V8 van in commercial use, not here.
@KapteinOpel Diesel is more efficient due to both less revolutions of the engine in comparison with gas and as you said, more "energy dense", but all of the diesel's that I have had run MUCH slower than a comparable gas engine. EX.. (At Idle) 6.8L Triton V10 (612RPM) to a 6.7L Powerstroke (320RPM)
@miller45103 Thats right. They dont necessarily have more torque, but they reach max torque at a much lower rpm and are not able to rev that high. Of this reason theres often a higher ratio in the final drive, but if it wasnt it would still use less. MUCH less. But I think the idle on your powerstroke was set too low, should be abt the same as a gas...
@Hammett43" All I can say is... Why!!??..... There's the 6.4 option sitting there and you say," I want the v10 please".. Why!!??... 6.4= more power, better mpg, better resale, and you'll save a couple of penguins while you're at it"
When you buy a V10 6.8 Liter vehicle, you are not worried about the gas mileage your going to get lol
@Hammett43 the new 6.4's aren't all that great they get 9 mpg this V10 probably gets 12 my 5.4 gets 14.5 and i have a chip cold air and true dual exhaust... the new 6.7 psd should get better mpg in the 2011 super duty atleast that's what ford is claiming
And you get a voided warrenty for removing the DPF. You can't just pull the DPF and call it good, the pcm needs to be reflashed with a DPF delete tune. The 6.4l makes lots of power but if you want an engine that is still powerful, costs less up front and isn't in the shop all the time the 6.8l is where its at.
@sdvten It took us a half day to remove the DPF and weld in a new exaust, the other half we used to reflash the PCM(If you have a laptop, its free or very inexpensive). Out 6.4 F550 has never been in the shop more, unless we were upgrading it.
@bill11012 yeah but look at the torque numbers. Peak horsepower, especially a 12 horse difference, isnt that much when the torque difference is almost 200 ft lbs. That diesel would tow way more than the v10 and the power potential is off the charts compared to v10. the power curve on a v10 is sad compared to a typical big v8 and diesel as well. Its not all about peak horsepower....
@Hammett43 not all people need the diesel power and there alot to maintain. plus in some areas diesel is almost a dollar more than gas per gallon so it defeats the better mpg purpose.
@Hammett43 the 6.4 is a terrible diesel, they had more recalls on that than any powerstroke! worse fuel economy and injector problems.. the 6.8 for this year is the better choice
@Hammett43 i tow upwards of 16 tons with a 99 450 with a v10. no problem. the diesels are cock substitutes. besides the v10 has a giant power band from 1500 to 5000 rpm. the diesel dosent pull much better
@fatharmonix You tow over 32,000 lbs with your V10? At legal speed limits? I would love to see that. The diesels are much better for towing, otherwise people wouldnt be buying them to tow their travel trailers and semi trucks wouldnt be using them for decades now. And i would argue the V10 is more of a cock substitute. TEN cylinders? I would take a cummins with 6 and tow circles around your big v10. If anything go with a ford or chevy big block V8, they have better low end than the rev happy v10
@BLWN454 yeah iv pulled a stumps staring at 900 rpm. dont ever say a v10 dont have low end torque. of the era, a 7.3 would be very nice but the v10 is severely underrated
@fatharmonix youve pulled stumps with your truck? No way!!! How did your huge 4 ton truck manage to pull a stump out of the ground?!?! Im used to putting my big block in gear and pulling them out at idle but hey 900 rpms works too.
@Hammett43 ive driven both and stock on both, the power is very similar its just comes a little sooner in the diesel and with all the emmisions choking bullshit on the diesel the mileage is also very similar and idk if you noticed but diesel is much more expensive
Why do these sound like rice rockets?
multiultragamer1 2 weeks ago
I think v8's sound way better
Bladesting 1 month ago
Nice thong sandals...
MDrumm03 2 months ago
Anchortrap says "powerful and pretty" better check yourself on calling people fags
OffRoad4x421 3 months ago
Whats sad is this douche bag owns a powerful and pretty truck and it serves no practical worth or value to him. Sandal wearing, tea sipping faggot!
anchortrap 3 months ago
why does it sound like a rice pipe?
MrChriskenser 3 months ago
sounds like stock to me
SteinGermany1939 5 months ago
@berhorst59- the spark plug issue was only on the early 6.8. I believe in 04 they fixed it and have not had an issue since.
Moto2four 5 months ago
The 6.4 and the new 6.7 are good engines, The bad engine is the 6.0 that followed the 7.3. Ford and Navistat still at odds over that one, still in the courts. Thats why the 6.7 is a Ford, not Navistar designed engine
berhorst59 5 months ago
The problem with the V10, and all the 2 valve Triton engines is they blow spark plugs out of the heads. Problem is so common that Ford cut the warranty on the Triton 2V heads to 30K miles. The thread holes aren't deep enough, plus the heads are aluminum, so you can't tighten the plugs very tight. The engine (V10) is a powerful engine and not so bad MPG, just the heads are the deal breaker
berhorst59 5 months ago
V10s are way powerful but if I were do get a 250 or up I'd get a diesel just cause they do pull more and it makes more sense.. It's like driving a 450 in gas that's retarded.
Pkumar1923 9 months ago
I see feet.
Japopeye 11 months ago
@JKBradV10 LOVE the sound of it. Nice truck.
PNSB101 1 year ago
JKBradV10 LOVE the sound of it. Nice truck.
PNSB101 1 year ago
Um.. Nope.. They're badass.. Check out my vid.. 136mph 6.4
Hammett43 1 year ago
@Hammett43
Not everyone wants a 6.4 liter Turbo Diesel engine, although I agree you can get better fuel economy and more power diesel engines do cost more. Not only to buy but also to fix.
MrAm727 1 year ago
i had a 99 f250 w v10 and i had banks, crerry bombs, even straight pipe, it doesnt matter what you do to them they never sound good.
austinb1292 1 year ago
easily the weakest sounding system ive heard on a truck
KyleMartinFTW 1 year ago
Wow, sounds like a v6.
DasKetzer 1 year ago
@DasKetzer yep, a screaming bloody murder v6 with the right exhaust setup
bykerboy223 1 year ago
@ Hammet43, why the V10? I'd say the way quicker throttle response (no turbo lag, lighter internals) and at least 6k cheaper. with diesel often more expensive than gas, that's an awful lot of miles to get even
JMLev88432 1 year ago
and whats a drone?
matthewrockslol22 1 year ago
how big inches wise?
matthewrockslol22 1 year ago
sounds like a god damn viper...
xxbal1inxx 1 year ago
should listen to it with no Catalytic converter
2003m36sp 1 year ago
sounds like a 4.2l v6
dipper4america 1 year ago
sounds like a dam 6 cylinder
stormj372 1 year ago
In all this diesel VS. V10 debate, people fail to mention that the diesel option is at least 6 grand more out of the 'ol pocket book. That being said, I'm a diesel man all the way. And BTW, the new clean diesels suck. Our trucks at work have the 6.4 and average about 7-8 mpg. What confuses me is, they want to clean up the air so they make the clean diesel. But the new diesels get crap mileage. So if you have to fill up 2x as often, is the air & our atmosphere really better off?! Stupid Govt regs
nickmaurus 1 year ago 30
@nickmaurus You got that right buddy. :) The gov't ultimately wants to bankrupt our country by doing things like this all the regulations and stuff. What a bunch of BS. The next president in office needs to cut the EPA'S funding wayyyy back and that'll be a start in the right direction even though I think we might be past the point of no return. :(
farmboyjd9400 6 months ago
@nickmaurus thats why you slap on a dpf delete and an egr delete and say fuck off to al gore.
foxracing279 5 months ago
@nickmaurus The exhaust that comes out of the new diesels is almost cleaner than the air around it... so essentially they're making the air cleaner at a faster rate!
ViolentBiscuits 3 months ago
sounds like a turd to me... crappy vid
babyimsuperman 1 year ago
wow a v10 rice burner lmao
jdshaq 1 year ago
My 4.7 tundra sounds better than that. Sounds stock
scooterpimp69 2 years ago
@scooterpimp69 your tundra is a toyota. Therfore, it is a piece of shit.
lespaul12001 1 year ago
@scooterpimp69 and it turns out your toyota is gay
CHIPthaRIPPER19 1 year ago
Why does all the video's record the vehicle idling for a year before reving it.
just cut the boring stuff out!
noojra 2 years ago
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@noojra So your goddamn oil pump has enough time to get working, don't wanna blow your motor up. It's different from your moped
coleconner 1 year ago
sounds ricey
smc13s 2 years ago
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coleconner 1 year ago
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coleconner 1 year ago
yikes, i thought banks made aggressive sounding exhaust. i'll stick with Cherry Bomb Glasspacks
bykerboy223 2 years ago
toyota is talking about makeing tundra cat diesel
jamesoftexas 2 years ago
it's more hino diesel
Cumminsturbofreak 2 years ago
@jamesoftexas i dont think toyota is planning on doing anything right now except trying not to be the next GM or chrysler
bighorse215 2 years ago
sounds like 4 banger wtf 7.3 all the way
SuperD04 2 years ago
yeah i was thinking some little ass whole put a video on here of their ricer
MyGta123 2 years ago
I did... and btw you ment asshole not ass whole...
jabba12000 2 years ago
yeah thanks its a bad habbit
MyGta123 2 years ago
Like smoking
jabba12000 2 years ago
the sound is a lil too tame for me but the tip looks nice as hell!!!!
SpetsnazWarrior 2 years ago
the 6.4 have a lot of problems with them too and it all depends on what your using it for
adrenalinemanianc 2 years ago
no its the 6.0 powerstroke they had problems with
kawifan91 2 years ago
I love banks exhausts they sound so crisp.
nachos1990 2 years ago
sounds like a tuner to me... i wouldnt get the banks.. i thought about it but then i decided flowmaster. and if you check my video out... mine louder then this and sounds like a "monster exhaust" ahaha but i can honistly say it looks good
gearhead427cj 2 years ago
i just responded to this comment like you and our numbers for the engine options were slightly different, so i had to go to Fords website and check it out myself just to see...
the V-10 is a $695.00 dollar option
the diesel is a $9,325 dollar option
DANG!!
If your reading Hammett43, thats why he got the V10 over the Diesel....
JohnThomasB 2 years ago
All I can say is... Why!!??..... There's the 6.4 option sitting there and you say," I want the v10 please".. Why!!??... 6.4= more power, better mpg, better resale, and you'll save a couple of penguins while you're at it..
Hammett43 2 years ago
the V-10 is a $800.00 option over the 5.4
the 6.4 is a $8,000.00 option over the 5.4
some people don't use there pickups as every day drivers, probably like this guy, and only drives about 6,000 miles a year using their truck for what its meant to do.. haul.
This thing can tow pretty respectable numbers, is a work horse, can last forever and MOST importantly is $7,200 less than the Powerstroke. For some that extra 7K just isnt worth it then this engine can do what they need it too.
ya know?
JohnThomasB 2 years ago
because the v10 is a far better motor than that POS 6.4 international, and its alot cheaper by a FEW thousand dollars, and if he needs to tow some decent sized stuff the v10 will handle it, hell my grandads 5.43v f250 pulls our 22k pound no problem
f150man55 2 years ago
actually the 6.4 isn't an international the 7.3 was but you are right the 6.0 and the 6.4 suck ford should have stayed with the 7.3 but just sayin international makes fairly good engine they need to get detroit or cat to make an engine for em that'd be sweet
adrenalinemanianc 2 years ago
umm..yes it is. international (navistar) has made everything from the old 6.9 back in the 80's
f150man55 2 years ago
@f150man55 navistar is just the computer system used.
Firecat400EX 2 years ago
um...no
the corporation is named, Navistar International Corporation. Changed from the name, International Harvester Company.
f150man55 2 years ago
the 7.3 couldnt pass the emissions back then, and couldnt keep up with the 5.9 CTD nor the 6.6 DTD. and the detroit diesel sucks too. do you not remember the 6.2 and 6.5 diesels GM used in the 90's? those were worthless
f150man55 2 years ago
hell yeah there were crappy they pull the spark plug of the gaser and put injector instead nut noise all the time...
Cumminsturbofreak 2 years ago
dude 6.4s dont suck theyre the best engine ford has for theyre superdutys and theyre made by navistar not international
kawifan91 2 years ago
@kawifan91 Navistar is a branch/brand of international
benchn280 2 years ago
o ok my bad i didnt know that
kawifan91 2 years ago
lmao
disfigureds10 2 years ago
There is a drone around the 1400-2800 RPM range. It's annoying. On the highway, above 65 MPH, it's pretty quiet.
This engine costs less to buy and less to maintain. A late model 6.4 PSD gets about the same MPG, a little better when towing. I tow a 22 ft boat, so real heavy towinf isn't an issue for me.
I think I'm going to replace the muffler on this sytem. Just too much drone.
JKBradV10 2 years ago 10
yah it seems like it drones like a biiiatch. I have a subwoofer in my room and its just rattling
kushnugz 2 years ago
@JKBradV10 Sorry man, but a diesel will always get better MPG due to less revolutions of the engine when compared to a gasser. Also diesels will usually, with a couple exceptions, do better at towing. Diesels have much more torque than gas.
The V10's are monsters though! :)
miller45103 1 year ago
@miller45103 My friend.. Its not due to less revolutions, thats not always the case. Diesels are simply more efficient, in addition disel fuel is more energy dense. So they actually use down to HALF of what a gas engine consumes. Even if diesel costs a dollar more it aint twice the price, so the extra cost at purchase will be worth it in the long run. I live in Norway, diesel is cheaper than gas here so its the only thing I consider for daily transport. A gas V8 van in commercial use, not here.
KapteinOpel 1 year ago
@KapteinOpel Diesel is more efficient due to both less revolutions of the engine in comparison with gas and as you said, more "energy dense", but all of the diesel's that I have had run MUCH slower than a comparable gas engine. EX.. (At Idle) 6.8L Triton V10 (612RPM) to a 6.7L Powerstroke (320RPM)
miller45103 1 year ago
@miller45103 Thats right. They dont necessarily have more torque, but they reach max torque at a much lower rpm and are not able to rev that high. Of this reason theres often a higher ratio in the final drive, but if it wasnt it would still use less. MUCH less. But I think the idle on your powerstroke was set too low, should be abt the same as a gas...
KapteinOpel 1 year ago
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@Hammett43" All I can say is... Why!!??..... There's the 6.4 option sitting there and you say," I want the v10 please".. Why!!??... 6.4= more power, better mpg, better resale, and you'll save a couple of penguins while you're at it"
When you buy a V10 6.8 Liter vehicle, you are not worried about the gas mileage your going to get lol
rawk4life93 1 year ago
@Hammett43 the new 6.4's aren't all that great they get 9 mpg this V10 probably gets 12 my 5.4 gets 14.5 and i have a chip cold air and true dual exhaust... the new 6.7 psd should get better mpg in the 2011 super duty atleast that's what ford is claiming
drummingdave817 1 year ago
@Hammett43 Also if he every wanted to go mudding in the truck a diesel is a lo tmore wieght than the v10
paintball4life3214 1 year ago
@Hammett43 6.4= higher cost, less power and the same MPGs
bill11012 1 year ago
@bill11012 Your wrong, more power, and when you take the DPF off, more MPGS
orbitofdoom16 1 year ago
And you get a voided warrenty for removing the DPF. You can't just pull the DPF and call it good, the pcm needs to be reflashed with a DPF delete tune. The 6.4l makes lots of power but if you want an engine that is still powerful, costs less up front and isn't in the shop all the time the 6.8l is where its at.
sdvten 1 year ago
@sdvten It took us a half day to remove the DPF and weld in a new exaust, the other half we used to reflash the PCM(If you have a laptop, its free or very inexpensive). Out 6.4 F550 has never been in the shop more, unless we were upgrading it.
orbitofdoom16 1 year ago
@bill11012 explain to me how the v10 makes more power than the 6.4 diesel?
bballman345 1 year ago
@bballman345 Well, last time I checked 362HP is more power than 350HP.
bill11012 1 year ago
@bill11012 yeah but look at the torque numbers. Peak horsepower, especially a 12 horse difference, isnt that much when the torque difference is almost 200 ft lbs. That diesel would tow way more than the v10 and the power potential is off the charts compared to v10. the power curve on a v10 is sad compared to a typical big v8 and diesel as well. Its not all about peak horsepower....
bballman345 1 year ago
@Hammett43 not all people need the diesel power and there alot to maintain. plus in some areas diesel is almost a dollar more than gas per gallon so it defeats the better mpg purpose.
turbonegro1120 1 year ago
@Hammett43 I traded my V-10 for the 6.4,,,,what a mistake!! The v-10 had more power, alot more power.
Thesupersmith79 1 year ago
@Hammett43 dude i love fords... but the 6.4s were a piece of shit
starr101010 1 year ago
@Hammett43 the 6.4 is a terrible diesel, they had more recalls on that than any powerstroke! worse fuel economy and injector problems.. the 6.8 for this year is the better choice
haydn44rutledge 1 year ago
@haydn44rutledge 6.8 not an option this option this year i think you mean 6.7 aka Scorpion
luismicastle 11 months ago
@Hammett43 Cuz the twin turboed 6.4 is a steeming bowl of elephant piss...the most unreliable diesel known to man...
94f150mofo 1 year ago
@Hammett43 i tow upwards of 16 tons with a 99 450 with a v10. no problem. the diesels are cock substitutes. besides the v10 has a giant power band from 1500 to 5000 rpm. the diesel dosent pull much better
fatharmonix 10 months ago 7
@fatharmonix You tow over 32,000 lbs with your V10? At legal speed limits? I would love to see that. The diesels are much better for towing, otherwise people wouldnt be buying them to tow their travel trailers and semi trucks wouldnt be using them for decades now. And i would argue the V10 is more of a cock substitute. TEN cylinders? I would take a cummins with 6 and tow circles around your big v10. If anything go with a ford or chevy big block V8, they have better low end than the rev happy v10
BLWN454 8 months ago
@BLWN454 yeah iv pulled a stumps staring at 900 rpm. dont ever say a v10 dont have low end torque. of the era, a 7.3 would be very nice but the v10 is severely underrated
fatharmonix 8 months ago
@fatharmonix youve pulled stumps with your truck? No way!!! How did your huge 4 ton truck manage to pull a stump out of the ground?!?! Im used to putting my big block in gear and pulling them out at idle but hey 900 rpms works too.
BLWN454 8 months ago
@fatharmonix take a look at the V10 in my video, I couldn't agree more
08krecker 4 months ago
@Hammett43 cause a 6.8 can run over a 6.4
kaidenandryan 5 months ago
@Hammett43 ive driven both and stock on both, the power is very similar its just comes a little sooner in the diesel and with all the emmisions choking bullshit on the diesel the mileage is also very similar and idk if you noticed but diesel is much more expensive
sstroh08 5 months ago
Do you have any drone cruising on the highway? or with a load?
drillertom21 2 years ago