tech guy is a moron, its not a shake. its due to inertial torque being generated by the crank which is created as a function of throttle input and is not in harmony with the combustion torque. two different torques being created, one that can be controlled by mapping and the other is a inherient part of the engine configuration. what this translates to the back tyre is a rough uncorreceted torque curve, ie two different pulses of torque being created which are not harmony .
@Lunddean blah blah blah. its television. if EVERYONE in the world had the knowledge that we had this wouldnt be an issue.... its so that even the dumb HS dropout motorcycle rider will understand what theyre talking about. lol i think if they just used 2 strokes and advanced that tech, we wouldnt have this issue either.
@Lunddean Very true but I doubt Spalding is a moron. I think he uses the word "shake" for layman's terms. Inertia is the "resistance due to the change in motion" as I'm sure that you are aware. Therefore a "shake" could be apparent no?
@TrooperT6 I.e. the inertia you get under braking causes the rear to slide around. If not using the rear brake but just front brake and/or engine braking, then the slowing of the front wheel and the rear wheel still trying to travel at a faster speed is now under the "resistance due to the change in motion" which causes weaving at the rear, thus a shake of the rear?
@TrooperT6 sorry i should not of called him a moron. i just anticipated a tech guru would not use laymens terms. does a shake operate in uniaxial fashion? are we talking about wheel hop? how do bearing tolerances effect shake and hop?
I'd love to see an 'oval' 3 cylinder in the manner Honda did way back, but with only 6 valves per cylinder-not 8, 2 sparks, and two extremely lightweight connecting rods.
I was under the impression that when he was talking about the V4 he was referring to the RSV4 and the Ducati GP bike... And when he was talking about the V2 he was talking about Ducati's Street and WSBK machines. I followed... or think I did.
@jimothy1967 - How is asking a question, humorously or not, telling someone what to do or how to think? Do all the English have such severe problems with logic? Nobber?
God Damn.. that "guru" is sooo fkn boring..! wtf..
dalesalsa 5 days ago
tech guy is a moron, its not a shake. its due to inertial torque being generated by the crank which is created as a function of throttle input and is not in harmony with the combustion torque. two different torques being created, one that can be controlled by mapping and the other is a inherient part of the engine configuration. what this translates to the back tyre is a rough uncorreceted torque curve, ie two different pulses of torque being created which are not harmony .
Lunddean 3 months ago
@Lunddean blah blah blah. its television. if EVERYONE in the world had the knowledge that we had this wouldnt be an issue.... its so that even the dumb HS dropout motorcycle rider will understand what theyre talking about. lol i think if they just used 2 strokes and advanced that tech, we wouldnt have this issue either.
highdeserthater 3 months ago
@highdeserthater 2 strokes rule, i heard lotus was doing some development on them.
Lunddean 2 months ago
@Lunddean Very true but I doubt Spalding is a moron. I think he uses the word "shake" for layman's terms. Inertia is the "resistance due to the change in motion" as I'm sure that you are aware. Therefore a "shake" could be apparent no?
TrooperT6 2 months ago
@TrooperT6 I.e. the inertia you get under braking causes the rear to slide around. If not using the rear brake but just front brake and/or engine braking, then the slowing of the front wheel and the rear wheel still trying to travel at a faster speed is now under the "resistance due to the change in motion" which causes weaving at the rear, thus a shake of the rear?
TrooperT6 2 months ago
@TrooperT6~ What?!... rear wheel "hop" or "chatter" is caused by engine braking!
marek0086 2 months ago
@TrooperT6 sorry i should not of called him a moron. i just anticipated a tech guru would not use laymens terms. does a shake operate in uniaxial fashion? are we talking about wheel hop? how do bearing tolerances effect shake and hop?
Lunddean 2 months ago
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TrooperT6 2 months ago
@TrooperT6~ Wrong. "Inertia" is an objects resistance to change in motion.
marek0086 2 months ago
@Lunddean~ seems like you're the moron. IT DOES CAUSE SHAKE!
Its HARMONICS!
marek0086 2 months ago
@marek0086 elborate then. i need re-educating
Lunddean 1 month ago
@Lunddean~ Torsional vibration i.e. SHAKE!
marek0086 1 month ago
@marek0086 lol. nice one fella. i am sure you will be headhunted by yamaha.
Lunddean 1 month ago
@Lunddean~ huh?
marek0086 1 month ago
Just use a 3 or 5 cylinder and be done with it.
I'd love to see an 'oval' 3 cylinder in the manner Honda did way back, but with only 6 valves per cylinder-not 8, 2 sparks, and two extremely lightweight connecting rods.
SparkDischarge 6 months ago
"noise is a side issue" hehe the side issue turned out to be amazingly nice.
livewoutlimit 1 year ago
But it requires heavy counterweights vs 180 degree crank ?
leolocost 1 year ago
@leolocost~ no... why would it??
marek0086 2 months ago
Neil Spauldings the moto tech geek.
zzboobzz 1 year ago
do the English have an aversion to the word 'inertia'?
RaphaelSassi 2 years ago
@RaphaelSassi - no, just an aversion to nobbers who think they can tell us how to speak our own language!
jimothy1967 1 year ago
@jimothy1967~ this guy keeps talking about a V4 when he means V2. Nicely confusing beginners.
marek0086 1 year ago
@marek0086 Where at?
I was under the impression that when he was talking about the V4 he was referring to the RSV4 and the Ducati GP bike... And when he was talking about the V2 he was talking about Ducati's Street and WSBK machines. I followed... or think I did.
oreogaborio 1 year ago
@jimothy1967 - How is asking a question, humorously or not, telling someone what to do or how to think? Do all the English have such severe problems with logic? Nobber?
RaphaelSassi 11 months ago