Haha this show would be very boring if they only picked intelligent, college educated, moderate - liberal, non-religious young adults on the judge panel.
biblical perspective.... always w the fucking religion. that's y religion sucks ass and needs to do away with. they pick and choose what they wanna believe... there is alot of bullshit in that there bible u bigots, but u only read what interests u, typical.
ok ok ok! wait a minute! for a black lady to be saying hate towards a singled out group is just baffling to me.... doesn't she know what it's like to be a minority? u were RAPED at a young age and THAT'S y u are became gay???? O my fucking god.... how closed minded can u possibly get?! Apparently she knows no gay people.
@83redrose83 I know, you'd think black people would be thee most understanding to other minorities, but sadly there seems to be more homophobic black people than any other race. It's really not that hard to understand homosexuality. Some idiots, like that bald guy, just don't want to accept the truth. Which is why he said "I don't care what anyone says". Closed mindedness is very irritating.
LOL! Makes sense...gay boys grow up gay because they were raped by...O_o wait...who raped them...could it have been gay men? But wait...they had to also have been raped O_O Oh shit...infinite regress.
Wow. Because this is totally a not-serious topic. How would you know that was the case, just asking? 'pretty sure' has ruined a lot of lives, madam/sir, so you better be pretty damn sure before you start laughing about other people's genetics. I'm trying to be polite, but seriously? Do you think people choose to be gay just so they can be condemned by society? Just so their own families turn their backs on them because of who they love? Get your facts straight.
I'm sorry. I should also say I really don't mean to be rude when I type, This is just really something that has hurt me as a person for a long time. So, I just wanna know. How do you feel a person becomes gay? Is it a life experience or...?
@NekiiFTW I also ask that you don't take this the wrong way. I didn't know you were being serious. Because it is natural for someone to like the opposite sex. I have never heard of a gay that was gay from the very first moment they were born, have you? It usually happens when they are raped. If that offends you, I appolgise. But that is my take, that it is indeed a life experience.
Natural? Maybe. But just because it isn't 'natural', it doesn't mean it doesn't happen in natural at all. I mean, a person with six fingers didn't learn to have six fingers. You and I both know that's completely genetic. But I have to say, the comment you made 'never head of a gay that was gay from the very first moment they were born'. I've also never heard of a baby tell me their sexuality, have you? What I'm trying to say is, there is about an age -c-
@NekiiFTW Well, I mean for that matter have you heard a very young boy or girl about their sexuality? Let alone they wouldn't even know what that is or what sex is either so, your rebuttle on naturally gay? As for the fingers, you don't carry around your sexuality, you decide it yourself. You can't change if you have 6 fingers unless through surgery. But you can DECIDE if you want to be gay or not.
I've already said that a young boy or girl would not accurately gauge their sexuality; where did you get that from? I merely suggested that sexual urges start at a certain age, and at that age, gay men or women identify that that was when they realized they were gay. Probably at the time you identified as heterosexual. As for what I think does cause homosexuality, I think it's genetics. While they haven't exactly identified what causes sexuality, a number of -c-
@NekiiFTW You just stated that it takes a certain age to realize your sexuality? That is NOT genetic, that is a learned trait. And as for genetics, how do you gauge that? How can you say that if NEVER in your family have you ever had gay in your family and then you suddenly want to be gay. HOW is that genetics?
No, that is not what I said either. I only said there was about an age that people figured out what sexuality they were. I never said that learning about yourself took genetics; don't throw words into my mouth. Also, I already said this, I don't know exactly how I think it would work. But I mean, seriously? 'never had gay then suddenly gay'. That's pretty much saying that if all cats had five claws, that the one with four obviously had to make the choice to have that claw. -c-
There can also be mistakes with sexuality. It's easy to mistake, I'm not saying that. And no. I'm not making that judgement call. I merely assumed that you were because the majority of people who argue against it are heterosexual, but if you want to correct me, fine about it, that's fine. My stance won't change merely because of that, though.
things could decide it. It could be natural but uncommon, it could be a defect, or it could be another cause. But I am simply saying that I strongly doubt that it's caused by traumatic events or just by choice. After all, do you think you could seriously go out for a day and love someone of the same sex like you do a person of a different sex? No, you probably could not.
when a person starts feeling sexual attraction for a gender of person. I'm sure there was a moment of realization for you when you went, 'hey, that group over there looks... really nice' or something along those lines. Because that is about the time sexual attraction arises. Am I saying that a raped person can not feel confusion about sexuality? No, they most certainly can; it probably has happened. But about 10% of the population identifies as homosexual, so I strongly -c-
the only kinda gays i hate are the kind who go around showing their homosexuality off to everyone. they dress up and act like noisy pussy fags in public, disturbing people. I don't get it, so being attracted to guys makes you act like a superhomo butt pirate?
...saying i KNOW i was born green or chinese when i am (black) but in my heart i just know i am i mean i can feel that way some may go along w/ it but is a FACT...? like saying a killer is born to kill...come on people where is our COMMON SENSE THESE DAYS LIKE REALLY...? i hate no one i love everybody i have my beliefs as well to this matter but in some cases you don't have to use that i just use the common sense that i have & it still works just fine...(thanks hope this help somebody) =)
@KeetWeet The problem with Common Sense is that it's the common way of thinking. Try thinking out of the box for once. Newton, Einstein, and every great thinker had to think out of the realm of common sense. If they didn't, we'd still be living under religious oppression. Have it ever striked you that that sometimes common sense is wrong??
@richter85 oh sweetie i'm not in a box so therefore i don't think outside a "box" i'm FREE & a FREE THINKER & common sense is not "box" thinking everyone should have it or want it...& i just love when people quote other peoples logics says a lot about yourself sounds like you're in their "box" lapping up their thoughts & repeating their sayings hmmmmm what do you "THINK"??? smh lol & religion oppression wouldn't know about it i'm not apart of those...i'm FREE in the Lord...how about you...?? =/
@KeetWeet there's a lot of judgement in your posts. Think about that (if you can). Don't forget that it was only 40 years ago where people discriminated against blacks. Please, if MLK was alive, he would allow gay marriage because he would not tolerate discrimination of any kind. You using the word love in a sarcastic method shows a lot about you.
@richter85 well frankly i'm NOT a MLK support & never will be BUT just my opinion i doubt if he would support "gay marriage", what next people marrying their animals or their favorite object & etc. when will it end if you can't procreate (& not because of health issuse some women can't duh) do you oppose a grown man marrying a child (if so why it's his right) once again brings us back to my point COMMON SENSE! & love is not sarcasticly used by me i mean what i say & u don't know me either...
@richter85 1st off i'm (BLACK) smh & NO i don't support a "man of "god" that's in the boule (mason), smoked ciggs, cheated on his wife & God only know w/e else (even in the Malcolm X movie 2 white men said compared to MLK that Malcolm was a "saint" which is a lie too but...) & i don't worship MEN like others because they done something good...to each is own w/e & don't forget it was you that replied to my comment OK...=/
let's say you have a world w/ nothing but men & one w/ nothing but women...i'm trying to figure out where children would come from if it's NO adoption or sperm banks & etc. a plastic male part doesn't carry sperm & a mans butt is not designed to catch sperm & prodcue a baby in his stomach...as CRAZY as i might sound you can't dispute it...so HOWEVER it came about in a persons mind that they are "gay" facts out weigh it all...it's like saying i'm in love w/ a bird & i want to be w/ it or...
saying homosexuality is a lifestyle choice is the dumbest thing i've ever heard... my brother is gay and we grew up in a southern christian home... he had absolutely no homosexual influence of any kind... he was just never attracted to females his whole life... when a male is born, he is either genetically wired to be attracted to females, which is obviously the most common occurance, or wired to like the same gender... you HAVE to be born with it... you cant just say "im gonna start liking men"
I don't think your born gay or taught to be gay; I've always considered it more of a lifestlye choice.... but either way no one besides god has any right to judge people.
Uh I am gay and I wasnt raped as a child and I wasnt taught it..I am who I am and I am sorry but I find this funny as shit that they think that it is taught XD
Homosexuals are still human beings and should be treated as such. When we speak of another's life through subjective opinions, its basically judging them. Be unbiased.
I'm bisexual, but I prefer girls. I've dated guys, and I do not prefer it. So don't try and tell me I don't know what I'm missing, because there's a connection with people of the same sex that you don't get with people of the opposite sex, and while that doesn't work for everyone, I like it.
@MarisPallitax1 I just wanna make this clear to myself and others (if they wondered, if not thats cool). When you said "because theres a connection with people of the same sex that you dont get with people of the opposite sex" you are solely referring to homosexual or bisexual or what have you, right? And support that heterosexual people get this connection with the opposite sex by saying "that doesnt work for everyone" I just wanted to make sure ^.^ thank you
And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
He could have been raped, could be a learned trait, could be born with it, could be a chemical balance, could have been all the girls were mean to him, could have been a decision, could be that he just likes guys, could be he is subserbiant, could be he went to jail, could be he was in the army, could be he saw more benefits, could be a disease, could be....
THE LIST GOES ON, but none of these things are proven, they all have proof though, so which one do you think?
@Amatiya I am not trying to convince anyone. is that what your trying to do? We are not all born with the blue eye gene or born unisex, where did you get that? What question would you like answered? i skip the stupid questions. but i will answer it for you if i didnt already. There is a difference between fact and theory. There is proof, the fact that the theories arnt proven, doesnt negate the fact that there are studies done and the proof is in the results.
@Amatiya Again your not reading right. Evidence to studies are different from evidence to theories. They are not one and the same. There is evidence to studies. So you cant state a theory till its proven 100% fact? its a common mistake? what kind of mistake? this is a discussion. All ideas are on the table. if its possible, its still game to talk about. "theories have an abundance of mistakes" Duh they are theories. You iron out the mistakes to make them facts. it takes years, still can use them
@Amatiya Lets look at what you first said "how are you born gay? the gene is not proven it was a simple untested theory" Your proof is that its an untested theory? 1. Your wrong because it is a tested theory. 2. I guess i cant answer how are you born gay. I dont know how, none the less it happens. If you want to know how, go ask someone doing the studies, but there is alot of conclusions to experiments that point towards this outcome. I wouldnt say you have SOLID proof, since its inconclusiveDUH
@Amatiya I didnt know you wanted a literal list of proven theories. For that there is none because a theory turns into fact if proven. I replied because your question was general, with no specific words stating you didnt accept theories to be true (do you believe in the theory of gravity)
Your not very specific in your questions, and i told you what the public knows about the gay gene.[ I asked that question for serious curiosity about this "Gay Gene".] You dont believe it because its 98% finish
@Amatiya "Theory" is not an insult. A theory is simply the most elaborate form of consistent scientific knowledge not yet disproved by experiment. In experimental sciences, a theory can never be "proved", it can only be "disproved" by experiment. The rules within a theory are called "laws" and the inverse square law of the Newtonian theory of gravitation does describe gravity extremely well. The Newtonian theory does not provide the ultimate law for gravity and so gravity remains a theory.
@JerkItLikeABoss Relaxed yes, defensive no, A little annoyed, yes...
If you weren't so quick to type your opinion you could clearly see that I didn't completely disagree with you. And then state "theory is not an insult"...
This game show looks interesting. What gives these people the right to judge others? Being attracted to the opposite sex isnt that mind boggling, some just prefer certain traits (blond or brunet , male or female) Some are born, and some are changed, while some are just attracted (to one or both)
@Amatiya Your almost right, its un proven. There are tests being done, so there is proof, just not enough to be overwhelmingly positive.
Some people once born act like the opposite sex. Boys that want to be girls and vice versa. there is alot of proof of that. Some just like the same sex, that is also proven around puberty.
One theory is a gay gene, another theory is brain chemistry. I dont want to have to show you it, just look it up though
@Amatiya You misread what i said. there are tested theories, but a theory isnt a fact. Just like there are no absolute facts either way. I am not using a theory as solid proof, but it is a fact that people are born wanting to be the opposite. its called transgender. The facts you stated are correct, but its also true that all of us have female and male genes. Here is a physical attribute to same sexuality: Why is it possible for men to grow boobs, or suffer from breast cancer? Is that proof? yes
@crealkillr Lol Breast aren't only a female organ, men just nickname it chest, in science they are called breast/nipple so of course they can get cancer...
Female and male genes yes, but what about gay genes? no.
If you choose breast as one (if you want to be one of those really stubborn people) it doesn't begin to develop until earlier years (around puberty)
So there still is NO solid proof of being born gay, I just don't go on hear say.
@Amatiya Well first what is your definition of gay? like i said we all have male and female genes. Its like we are all unisex, with the the balance of more gender specific genes. Just because your male, doesnt mean your not able to like a male. Its unusual, and yet cant you see that being a girl doesnt mean your hardwired to like a guy? Your born the way you are. None of this is proven and i dont claim them as facts, but you also have no proof for or against the matter. why are you so angry?
@Amatiya Can i also point out that your born with nipples? They mature later on, but why cant this "gay gene" mature later on as well? We haven't dissected the genes enough to find a pattern to the gay gene. for all we know it could be something everyone has, and only activates for some. A good example is disease like cancer, which activates at random times for the population. We didnt find a gay gene, but we didn't find a cure for Aids either. doesn't mean it isn't real, its just a theory ATM
@Amatiya So your telling me since i dont have 100% proof that its real, to stop defending what i believe? I think inconclusive health diseases shows how this is another inconclusive theory, yet people are working on aids everyday, and one day we could find a cure. Disease, like genetics, are passed down from parents. Some people are born unisex, so you when you said "we all are not born unisex, your wrong. blue is a weak gene, but people still have blue eyes even with the brown gene. wrong again
@Amatiya Fact many people are born without or with dysfunctional sexual organs (penis, vagina, testicles, eggs) so whatever point you were trying to make is moot.
yes gay people were born gay..just like straight ppl were born straight..its not learned..there have been so many studies on siblings who grew up in the same household but one was gay n the other straight..so how do u explain that?
@Sweetheartbabez I saw that one! or at least one of a few studies on that. Same family, same upbringing, and these twins have different goals. Both male, one boy likes boys while the other one likes girls. Everything down to favorite color, to barbies over cars. There is no way to explain it yet, but this is very strong evidence. I just hope people can deal with what a person wants. Stop changing your boy if he likes pink! Can i mention these twin boys were different from the very birth to ATM
@crealkillr yea very strange & interesting stuff.I am a Christian & I am straight & I have never been sexually attracted 2 a female.I mean there hve been sum that i thot were hot..lol but i nvr wanted 2 date them,nw show me a Hot guy & we have a different story! lol all the ppl who "turned gay" were clearly gay before or were undercover. its impossible to turn gay unless you are mentally unstable from being molested/raped that changed ur outlook or somthn the brain is extra-ordinary.
@Sweetheartbabez Well at least we have a few in common. Its ok to be physically attracted to people (boy and girl) since it doesnt mean you have changed what your looking for. Anyway i wish you luck, as more people need to be more understanding and forgiving.
I was raised in the church, brought up in Catholic schools all my life and over the years I learned that as long as you're happy and you're being safe then it's not anyone's place to judge, they're probably upset because they not getting any
@Keyscool Only mormons? Since i know plenty of people who are not mormon, and still act that way. Its a problem with the parents, not the religious ties you have
omfg i hate watchign this show, it makes me loose hope for human kind...so disgusting that these people cant have an open mind, and hes right there are no excuses for it!
proof by contradiction. assume you are born gay. that means your butt is equiped/supposed to have something go in. this is not the case. so new base statement assume that a chemical imbalance causes you to like men instead of women, thereby for going the chance of reproduction, given that you can assume homosexuality to be a defect to which to be cured/corrected, since it is animal behavior to want to reproduce. QED. homosexuality is a defect
OK now assume the opposite, that they are not actually born that way, its just something they like. If that is the case some homosexuals could learn to like other things,(as in the cases where pray away the gay actually work, yes sometimes ppl aren't just in denial) where as some really like this action to the point where they cant give it up(as in the cases where pray away the gay doesn't work), in such cases since no harm is brought to society it is ok for such ppl to continue their addiction
@megamanxjac LOL your hilarious. Being a gay guy doesnt mean your going to do anal. Same with lesbians, doesnt mean your going to scissor (if you need you can look what those words mean, go ahead, i will wait for you)
homosexuality might be a defect, but its up to the person if they want that corrected. Its the publics job to deal with their choice. Also defect is your opinion, since some people dont see it as a error
I wish the guy who say learn to be gay was right but no, You're born gay. i'm gay myself maybe bi but i hate loving my same sex but i just can't help it.
my friend's cousin was straight then he went to prison for 15 years, he got married to his cellmate for had 10 years...so i'm pretty sure it goes both ways
I don't understand when ppl say it's a life style choice and they're gay. It's like they're choosing to be ridiculed and stuff that follows. maybe i just don't understand
to allow same sex marriage would be like allowing a 40 year old man to marry and have children with a 15 year old girl or allowing men to rape people as they please, or for women to engage in bestiality. Men who believe themselves to be gay simply have no self-restraint.
@mistahJung How in the hell do you figure that??? exactly where do you get your info? please please please tell me i REALLY want to know....... You sir are the reason why people think america is ignorant, your argument is invalid bro.. Seriously please go learn something cause nothing you said makes any sense and can't even be remotely close to being ins the same bracket as gay marriages
@mistahJung You do realize that all the other sexual acts that you've described are without consent. Two men or two women who have sex are both consenting adults. The reason that it's wrong to rape a girl or engage in bestiality is because they did not and cannot CONSENT to have sex.
I'm attracted to both men and women, and I knew that I was attracted to girls when I was 4 years old. The attraction is still there just as much as it was when I was younger. It's something that can't be helped and I don't consider it a sickness of any sort.
Born Gay is a NEGATIVE. its the animalistic nature in us as humans to utilize our free will to be attracted to anyone or anything. you're never born gay, your mind helps you cope with the displays that are not formulated naturally to make them natural. if that wasn't the case then we would see same sex dogs breeding and other animals. we are the only species that make moral decisions.
Did someone hit the black woman in the face with a frying pan and then force her to fellate a beer bottle for 10 years? FUGGGGG-LLLY.
I think it was very brave to wear two brown mop heads over her scalp. Extremely brave and terrifyingly repulsive. Although it does help distract slightly to failure from the "slammed her face repeatedly into the pavement for a week" look that her face has.
okay all of the videos iv watch..the black person is always making a fool of themselves *face palm* hate this side of television...please get some EDUCATED black people on these shows! Oh wait...actually...educated black people wouldn't want to be on these shows..okay nvm
ci sono due tipi di americani , il tipo medio della grande provincia è proprio stupido e purtroppo adesso è simile alla maggioranza anche in italia grazie al lavaggio del cervello operato dalle televisioni commerciali
to say it´s a choice is just studip, if gay people had a choice between hetero or go, do you really think they would choose gay, probaly the most persecuted people in history.
All these people are idiots.Being gay is both not and is a choice.Some mean or woman are gay because something,either genetically or chemically precludes them to be this way,however,many gay men and woman become gay, as a lifestyle,particularly among people who are bi-sexual.Gay prejudiced toward heterosexuals and others who might be bi-sexual masks this fact through strong arm opinions about what it means to be gay.
I can't believe everyone is arguing this issue so terribly?! Honestly no one is nailing the issues, so many people are ignorant on this, this isn't funny at all!
this bold bitch... come on... how narrow minded must you be,to think that some one is though to be gay...question... was he tought to be strait?... fuckin stupit.. i wanna go on this show..lol..
what a stupid ignorant (hetero) bitch for saying that gay people are gay because we were raped as children. Amazing to me in 2007 people can be so damn ignorant
@Amatiya I missed that question i guess. Proof is in the 2 male twins that grew up the same house and one was "opposite" That is proof, and they are looking into a THEORY to why that is. So its not explained, but the proof is still there. Theories arnt always agreed. thats why there are so many. I am not trying to convince people, my coments dont hurt or help other peoples comments. The facts are there, black and white, just not proven why, but they are still facts. you assume there are none
@Amatiya there arnt many 100% in science though. I didnt write about twin girls getting cancer. The cancer one is a theory, although the latest studies have concluded that children do get this gene from grand parents. That is proven but not finished. Studies are taken in steps. Parts of theories are proven, but not finished till the other steps are done. Still able to use the results, and just remind you that its incorporated in a theory
@Amatiya Your right, i dont FULLY know the answer. But if your asking because your "Curious" about the gay gene, your pretty much asking for what ever there is on the topic. As i hope you dont think you fully know the answer either, we were just discussing, and you was asking for 100% evidence when there is none. I should have just said there is none, and let you think you was right. Why do you think i would know all about this topic? No one does, so stop asking people for it then. You asked.
@Amatiya I am not prejudice, thats the difference. I was talking to you because i assumed you was a scientist. Scientists talk using some theories because NOTHING is absolute. You asked and i told you, and i would never say i know 100%, you ASSUMED THAT. Thats right about asking questions, but you need to listen to the answer and dont bypass it just because its not 100%. Hear say is all there is, although we are talking about scientific hear say, not regular.
@Amatiya This is a disscussion. You dont have to believe anything, since i am not trying to force you on anything. We were disscussing our own veiws and opinions. i take these theories as true till proven wrong, just like the theory of the earth being round till proved correct. Hearsay is more like rumors. Telephone uses miscomunication from not hearing correctly. This is a science issue, so you should see it from a scientist veiw. I never assumed you disliked gays.
@Amatiya Its hard to answer your question when you dont accept any answers. There are answers to your question, but because you dont accept theories, there isnt any answers you will accept. Even scientists on the study cant give you what your looking for. AND your whole argument is that a theory isnt a possible argument. Where is your SOLID proof?
@Amatiya Your going around in circles. I am discussing this issue with you, not proving a point to change your mind. I am sure a scientist out there does know more, mostly because they just learned something, all i said is what the average scientist knows. Common knowledge really. Same with me not being sure, although most scientist know the same amount as me. "but you didnt know THE answer" There is no one answer. You can resort to what ever you want, but keep looking, as theories is all
@Amatiya Here is the problem, and i hope you can comprehend it. In science there is facts and theories. If you dont believe in theories or speculation, then you cant discuss this topic because there isnt much fact. There are alot of things that were proven, but that only leads to more theory. You need to look up the word argue, since what you have been doing this whole time is exactly that. I didnt say you HAD to resort to ANY answer, but if your asking for an answer i did answer your question.
@Amatiya Science uses theories, speculation, tested studies, research and math. But you cant only look at the research and exclude anything else. I said i was sorry on your profile, mentioning how i should have said theory instead of sounding like i knew 100% (although why would anyone assume that)
If you reread what YOU said, you will see that you clearly didnt understand what i said, so yes your going in circles. reread. Why should i be sorry when i answered your question. Theories are answers
@crealkillr If the person asking the question is telling you that you didn't answer THEIR question and there are still inconclusive openings in YOUR answer then maybe you really didn't answer their question...that's common sense.
Theories aren't always correct so they are NOT always the answers...and that's common knowledge.
Gay gene has been SPECULATED as the truth because of theories that are not even 65% accurate (I looked the % up).
That's why I said explain without theories. Good try but No
@Amatiya It really comes down to you wont accept any answers, and there for there are no answers i can tell you. Thats why later i said i dont know. What your asking no one knows, and theories are the closest thing. so stop saying the same thing over again. Theories are used with the understanding they arnt always correct, but you still use them and just point out what is wrong. "NOT always the answers" we still use them in discussions. You asked about gay genes, i told you what there was.
@Amatiya Look lets just end this. If you want someone to explain without theories, good luck. I (as said before) dont know what to tell you. so just end it as a truce because although this was fun, i said many times the answer your looking for isnt around at the moment. Any scientific discussion needs to be able to mention theories, and in not doing so, there is nothing more i can tell you. Also, Gay gene theory is past 65%, so i would like to know how old what ever you looked up was. Stop n bye
@Amatiya If you want to learn more, look up the many theories on this topic. I mention that because some may have been proven that i didnt know about. Other than that i would suggest asking a scientist, and if your lucky, they will have something else, but i would hate for you to argue with them like i did, so maybe skip this step.
@Amatiya I quote myself "Science is based on both research, theories, and studies. To not accept one because it MAY not be correct leads to errors"
2009 is mighty old when we look at the current day (Nov 13, 2011) You couldnt find anything more recent? Are you just using google? because there are actually science sites, as well as other places you could look. Dont be lazy and accuse me of learning something. I cant teach someone who is confused and not knowledgable on the topic at hand.
@JerkItLikeABoss Yes i know gravity is a theory also. That proves my point. Amatiya was arguing with me about using theories because she said quote "theories are not 100% proven". I know gravity is a theory, just like the theory of the big bang and the theory that all live started from the ocean, or that all humans originated in Africa. Proves the scientific argument that facts and theories are useable in these types of arguments.
Haha this show would be very boring if they only picked intelligent, college educated, moderate - liberal, non-religious young adults on the judge panel.
lightthiscity11 6 days ago
biblical perspective.... always w the fucking religion. that's y religion sucks ass and needs to do away with. they pick and choose what they wanna believe... there is alot of bullshit in that there bible u bigots, but u only read what interests u, typical.
83redrose83 1 week ago
ok ok ok! wait a minute! for a black lady to be saying hate towards a singled out group is just baffling to me.... doesn't she know what it's like to be a minority? u were RAPED at a young age and THAT'S y u are became gay???? O my fucking god.... how closed minded can u possibly get?! Apparently she knows no gay people.
83redrose83 1 week ago
@83redrose83 I know, you'd think black people would be thee most understanding to other minorities, but sadly there seems to be more homophobic black people than any other race. It's really not that hard to understand homosexuality. Some idiots, like that bald guy, just don't want to accept the truth. Which is why he said "I don't care what anyone says". Closed mindedness is very irritating.
Sebizzar 6 days ago
Wow. That black lady is Freud with a wig on.
kurtywurty85 2 weeks ago
LOL! Makes sense...gay boys grow up gay because they were raped by...O_o wait...who raped them...could it have been gay men? But wait...they had to also have been raped O_O Oh shit...infinite regress.
MrOmniblast 3 weeks ago
Pretty sure you're not born gay... just saying xD
ThebossaruChamp 1 month ago
@ThebossaruChamp
'just saying xD'
Wow. Because this is totally a not-serious topic. How would you know that was the case, just asking? 'pretty sure' has ruined a lot of lives, madam/sir, so you better be pretty damn sure before you start laughing about other people's genetics. I'm trying to be polite, but seriously? Do you think people choose to be gay just so they can be condemned by society? Just so their own families turn their backs on them because of who they love? Get your facts straight.
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW Sorry, I'll clear up my statement. You're not born gay, you become gay.
ThebossaruChamp 3 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp
I'm sorry. I should also say I really don't mean to be rude when I type, This is just really something that has hurt me as a person for a long time. So, I just wanna know. How do you feel a person becomes gay? Is it a life experience or...?
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW I also ask that you don't take this the wrong way. I didn't know you were being serious. Because it is natural for someone to like the opposite sex. I have never heard of a gay that was gay from the very first moment they were born, have you? It usually happens when they are raped. If that offends you, I appolgise. But that is my take, that it is indeed a life experience.
ThebossaruChamp 3 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp
Natural? Maybe. But just because it isn't 'natural', it doesn't mean it doesn't happen in natural at all. I mean, a person with six fingers didn't learn to have six fingers. You and I both know that's completely genetic. But I have to say, the comment you made 'never head of a gay that was gay from the very first moment they were born'. I've also never heard of a baby tell me their sexuality, have you? What I'm trying to say is, there is about an age -c-
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW Well, I mean for that matter have you heard a very young boy or girl about their sexuality? Let alone they wouldn't even know what that is or what sex is either so, your rebuttle on naturally gay? As for the fingers, you don't carry around your sexuality, you decide it yourself. You can't change if you have 6 fingers unless through surgery. But you can DECIDE if you want to be gay or not.
ThebossaruChamp 3 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp
I've already said that a young boy or girl would not accurately gauge their sexuality; where did you get that from? I merely suggested that sexual urges start at a certain age, and at that age, gay men or women identify that that was when they realized they were gay. Probably at the time you identified as heterosexual. As for what I think does cause homosexuality, I think it's genetics. While they haven't exactly identified what causes sexuality, a number of -c-
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW You just stated that it takes a certain age to realize your sexuality? That is NOT genetic, that is a learned trait. And as for genetics, how do you gauge that? How can you say that if NEVER in your family have you ever had gay in your family and then you suddenly want to be gay. HOW is that genetics?
ThebossaruChamp 3 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp
No, that is not what I said either. I only said there was about an age that people figured out what sexuality they were. I never said that learning about yourself took genetics; don't throw words into my mouth. Also, I already said this, I don't know exactly how I think it would work. But I mean, seriously? 'never had gay then suddenly gay'. That's pretty much saying that if all cats had five claws, that the one with four obviously had to make the choice to have that claw. -c-
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp
There can also be mistakes with sexuality. It's easy to mistake, I'm not saying that. And no. I'm not making that judgement call. I merely assumed that you were because the majority of people who argue against it are heterosexual, but if you want to correct me, fine about it, that's fine. My stance won't change merely because of that, though.
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW What are we even arguing now?
ThebossaruChamp 3 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp What if I said you are born Gay but become straight? Make even more sense? NO it doesn't.
SpySappinMyPC 2 weeks ago
@SpySappinMyPC What? That makes no sense.
ThebossaruChamp 2 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp
things could decide it. It could be natural but uncommon, it could be a defect, or it could be another cause. But I am simply saying that I strongly doubt that it's caused by traumatic events or just by choice. After all, do you think you could seriously go out for a day and love someone of the same sex like you do a person of a different sex? No, you probably could not.
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW So, you're making the judgement call that I'm straight?
ThebossaruChamp 3 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp
when a person starts feeling sexual attraction for a gender of person. I'm sure there was a moment of realization for you when you went, 'hey, that group over there looks... really nice' or something along those lines. Because that is about the time sexual attraction arises. Am I saying that a raped person can not feel confusion about sexuality? No, they most certainly can; it probably has happened. But about 10% of the population identifies as homosexual, so I strongly -c-
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@ThebossaruChamp
doubt that that would be the reason for homosexuality.
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW That being raped has to do with it? So, what do you think causes homosexuality exactly?
ThebossaruChamp 3 weeks ago
what the first women said about gay people.... I am sure she has statistics... just sick
Elektrita9 1 month ago 4
the only kinda gays i hate are the kind who go around showing their homosexuality off to everyone. they dress up and act like noisy pussy fags in public, disturbing people. I don't get it, so being attracted to guys makes you act like a superhomo butt pirate?
hellvilla 1 month ago
...saying i KNOW i was born green or chinese when i am (black) but in my heart i just know i am i mean i can feel that way some may go along w/ it but is a FACT...? like saying a killer is born to kill...come on people where is our COMMON SENSE THESE DAYS LIKE REALLY...? i hate no one i love everybody i have my beliefs as well to this matter but in some cases you don't have to use that i just use the common sense that i have & it still works just fine...(thanks hope this help somebody) =)
KeetWeet 1 month ago
@KeetWeet The problem with Common Sense is that it's the common way of thinking. Try thinking out of the box for once. Newton, Einstein, and every great thinker had to think out of the realm of common sense. If they didn't, we'd still be living under religious oppression. Have it ever striked you that that sometimes common sense is wrong??
richter85 1 month ago
@richter85 oh sweetie i'm not in a box so therefore i don't think outside a "box" i'm FREE & a FREE THINKER & common sense is not "box" thinking everyone should have it or want it...& i just love when people quote other peoples logics says a lot about yourself sounds like you're in their "box" lapping up their thoughts & repeating their sayings hmmmmm what do you "THINK"??? smh lol & religion oppression wouldn't know about it i'm not apart of those...i'm FREE in the Lord...how about you...?? =/
KeetWeet 1 month ago
@KeetWeet there's a lot of judgement in your posts. Think about that (if you can). Don't forget that it was only 40 years ago where people discriminated against blacks. Please, if MLK was alive, he would allow gay marriage because he would not tolerate discrimination of any kind. You using the word love in a sarcastic method shows a lot about you.
richter85 1 month ago
@richter85 well frankly i'm NOT a MLK support & never will be BUT just my opinion i doubt if he would support "gay marriage", what next people marrying their animals or their favorite object & etc. when will it end if you can't procreate (& not because of health issuse some women can't duh) do you oppose a grown man marrying a child (if so why it's his right) once again brings us back to my point COMMON SENSE! & love is not sarcasticly used by me i mean what i say & u don't know me either...
KeetWeet 1 month ago
@KeetWeet Well since you don't support Martin Luther King, than I don't think I should talk to you. You're a racist and you judge people.
richter85 1 month ago
@richter85 1st off i'm (BLACK) smh & NO i don't support a "man of "god" that's in the boule (mason), smoked ciggs, cheated on his wife & God only know w/e else (even in the Malcolm X movie 2 white men said compared to MLK that Malcolm was a "saint" which is a lie too but...) & i don't worship MEN like others because they done something good...to each is own w/e & don't forget it was you that replied to my comment OK...=/
KeetWeet 1 month ago
let's say you have a world w/ nothing but men & one w/ nothing but women...i'm trying to figure out where children would come from if it's NO adoption or sperm banks & etc. a plastic male part doesn't carry sperm & a mans butt is not designed to catch sperm & prodcue a baby in his stomach...as CRAZY as i might sound you can't dispute it...so HOWEVER it came about in a persons mind that they are "gay" facts out weigh it all...it's like saying i'm in love w/ a bird & i want to be w/ it or...
KeetWeet 1 month ago
saying homosexuality is a lifestyle choice is the dumbest thing i've ever heard... my brother is gay and we grew up in a southern christian home... he had absolutely no homosexual influence of any kind... he was just never attracted to females his whole life... when a male is born, he is either genetically wired to be attracted to females, which is obviously the most common occurance, or wired to like the same gender... you HAVE to be born with it... you cant just say "im gonna start liking men"
hammotox83 1 month ago
I don't think your born gay or taught to be gay; I've always considered it more of a lifestlye choice.... but either way no one besides god has any right to judge people.
MrBummblebee12 1 month ago
Where can I find all of these episodes?
SantaClaauz 1 month ago 4
Uh I am gay and I wasnt raped as a child and I wasnt taught it..I am who I am and I am sorry but I find this funny as shit that they think that it is taught XD
RainbowTheSplash 2 months ago
@RainbowTheSplash I am happy too !
RiseTheSnow 1 month ago
Homosexuals are still human beings and should be treated as such. When we speak of another's life through subjective opinions, its basically judging them. Be unbiased.
If you like them, live with them
If you don't, ignore them. Simple.
Amatiya 2 months ago
Does it matter? People are attracted to girls and people are attracted to guys. Who gives a shit?
Evenflowist314 2 months ago
Why would someone choose to be gay? That doesn't make sense. How people buy into that explanation is beyond me.
IsolationInstigation 2 months ago
for a show sponsored by BET all of the black people theyve put on these panels were idiots.
darthmalt123 2 months ago
she thinks all gays were raped WTF!!!!
kimberleyseetoes 2 months ago
I'm bisexual, but I prefer girls. I've dated guys, and I do not prefer it. So don't try and tell me I don't know what I'm missing, because there's a connection with people of the same sex that you don't get with people of the opposite sex, and while that doesn't work for everyone, I like it.
MarisPallitax1 2 months ago
@MarisPallitax1 I just wanna make this clear to myself and others (if they wondered, if not thats cool). When you said "because theres a connection with people of the same sex that you dont get with people of the opposite sex" you are solely referring to homosexual or bisexual or what have you, right? And support that heterosexual people get this connection with the opposite sex by saying "that doesnt work for everyone" I just wanted to make sure ^.^ thank you
Thorn14 2 months ago
@Thorn14 Yeah, that is what I meant. I know not everyone feels the same way (obviously, or everyone would be gay), but that's how I feel :)
MarisPallitax1 2 months ago
this is concerning the comment that t"I was born gay"
We were ALL born sinners (except for Jesus Christ) ..but through Christ we don;t have to stay that way Amen!
Romans 6:14
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
free1here 3 months ago
@free1here Deuteronomy 28:53
And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
KingMKLA 3 months ago
@free1here Your religious creed is irrelevant to those who don't believe.
HettesKvek 2 months ago
Lets watch the game show where they get ordinary "people" from the public. LOL total bullshit.
Gregnoxy 3 months ago
Because they were .... what LOL
Gregnoxy 3 months ago
He could have been raped, could be a learned trait, could be born with it, could be a chemical balance, could have been all the girls were mean to him, could have been a decision, could be that he just likes guys, could be he is subserbiant, could be he went to jail, could be he was in the army, could be he saw more benefits, could be a disease, could be....
THE LIST GOES ON, but none of these things are proven, they all have proof though, so which one do you think?
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr How are things not proven but have proof???
You aren't making any sense, your comments are seriously all inconclusive.
I ASKED (with SOLID proof) how someone is born gay because its not fair to use theories...
All you've done is bring up theories.
And I'm ignorant? But yet you cant seem to answer my questions.
And I'm the angry one? You're joking.
So you say We all have blue eyes and we are all born unisex?
You cant convince people if you aren't 100% sure yourself...
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya I am not trying to convince anyone. is that what your trying to do? We are not all born with the blue eye gene or born unisex, where did you get that? What question would you like answered? i skip the stupid questions. but i will answer it for you if i didnt already. There is a difference between fact and theory. There is proof, the fact that the theories arnt proven, doesnt negate the fact that there are studies done and the proof is in the results.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr I don't understand how people fully heartily believe in a theory, that has no conclusive evidence?
I didn't say once being gay is wrong but to follow in an idea that isn't FULLY tested and proven is a very common mistake.
Many minorities were considered genetically mentally challenged by theories and supported by hear say among people. (White man's burden, colonialism)
I'm not being ignorant or mean I'm being a realist.
Theories have an abundance of mistakes...
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya Again your not reading right. Evidence to studies are different from evidence to theories. They are not one and the same. There is evidence to studies. So you cant state a theory till its proven 100% fact? its a common mistake? what kind of mistake? this is a discussion. All ideas are on the table. if its possible, its still game to talk about. "theories have an abundance of mistakes" Duh they are theories. You iron out the mistakes to make them facts. it takes years, still can use them
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya Lets look at what you first said "how are you born gay? the gene is not proven it was a simple untested theory" Your proof is that its an untested theory? 1. Your wrong because it is a tested theory. 2. I guess i cant answer how are you born gay. I dont know how, none the less it happens. If you want to know how, go ask someone doing the studies, but there is alot of conclusions to experiments that point towards this outcome. I wouldnt say you have SOLID proof, since its inconclusiveDUH
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr So why didn't you say "I DON'T KNOW" earlier.
Why reply to my comment as if you know the answer to it at all?
Jesus Christ you must be a real asshole for making me dance around in circles with you.
I asked that question for serious curiosity about this "Gay Gene".
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya I didnt know you wanted a literal list of proven theories. For that there is none because a theory turns into fact if proven. I replied because your question was general, with no specific words stating you didnt accept theories to be true (do you believe in the theory of gravity)
Your not very specific in your questions, and i told you what the public knows about the gay gene.[ I asked that question for serious curiosity about this "Gay Gene".] You dont believe it because its 98% finish
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya Gravity is a theory too.
JerkItLikeABoss 2 months ago
@JerkItLikeABoss Gravity has become a scientific law, in deep observation it is a theory. Newton's Law of Gravitation will explain that for you.
Amatiya 2 months ago
@Amatiya "Theory" is not an insult. A theory is simply the most elaborate form of consistent scientific knowledge not yet disproved by experiment. In experimental sciences, a theory can never be "proved", it can only be "disproved" by experiment. The rules within a theory are called "laws" and the inverse square law of the Newtonian theory of gravitation does describe gravity extremely well. The Newtonian theory does not provide the ultimate law for gravity and so gravity remains a theory.
JerkItLikeABoss 2 months ago
@JerkItLikeABoss And here we go again...
This is why I said in DEEP observation it is a theory. Did you skip that?
When did I say theory is an insult?
Gravity in relative terms is a scientific law due to the accuracy in physics and fundamental interactions in nature, hence the name "Law of Gravity".
Amatiya 2 months ago
@Amatiya You need to relax and stop being so defensive.
JerkItLikeABoss 2 months ago
@JerkItLikeABoss Relaxed yes, defensive no, A little annoyed, yes...
If you weren't so quick to type your opinion you could clearly see that I didn't completely disagree with you. And then state "theory is not an insult"...
It was pointless. Truly pointless.
Later man
Amatiya 2 months ago
@Amatiya Slow clap.
JerkItLikeABoss 2 months ago
@JerkItLikeABoss Thank you, Thank you
Amatiya 2 months ago
This game show looks interesting. What gives these people the right to judge others? Being attracted to the opposite sex isnt that mind boggling, some just prefer certain traits (blond or brunet , male or female) Some are born, and some are changed, while some are just attracted (to one or both)
crealkillr 3 months ago
How are you born gay?
The gene is not proven it was a simple untested theory.
Seriously explain how you are born gay.
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya Your almost right, its un proven. There are tests being done, so there is proof, just not enough to be overwhelmingly positive.
Some people once born act like the opposite sex. Boys that want to be girls and vice versa. there is alot of proof of that. Some just like the same sex, that is also proven around puberty.
One theory is a gay gene, another theory is brain chemistry. I dont want to have to show you it, just look it up though
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr All you stated was that there was another untested theory to some how support being born gay.
I just don't think its fair for people to use a theory as solid proof.
Fact is your born with bodily organs mainly created for the opposite sex. (penis, vagina, testicles,eggs)
There are no physical attributes supporting "same sexuality" birth.
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya You misread what i said. there are tested theories, but a theory isnt a fact. Just like there are no absolute facts either way. I am not using a theory as solid proof, but it is a fact that people are born wanting to be the opposite. its called transgender. The facts you stated are correct, but its also true that all of us have female and male genes. Here is a physical attribute to same sexuality: Why is it possible for men to grow boobs, or suffer from breast cancer? Is that proof? yes
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr Lol Breast aren't only a female organ, men just nickname it chest, in science they are called breast/nipple so of course they can get cancer...
Female and male genes yes, but what about gay genes? no.
If you choose breast as one (if you want to be one of those really stubborn people) it doesn't begin to develop until earlier years (around puberty)
So there still is NO solid proof of being born gay, I just don't go on hear say.
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya Well first what is your definition of gay? like i said we all have male and female genes. Its like we are all unisex, with the the balance of more gender specific genes. Just because your male, doesnt mean your not able to like a male. Its unusual, and yet cant you see that being a girl doesnt mean your hardwired to like a guy? Your born the way you are. None of this is proven and i dont claim them as facts, but you also have no proof for or against the matter. why are you so angry?
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya Can i also point out that your born with nipples? They mature later on, but why cant this "gay gene" mature later on as well? We haven't dissected the genes enough to find a pattern to the gay gene. for all we know it could be something everyone has, and only activates for some. A good example is disease like cancer, which activates at random times for the population. We didnt find a gay gene, but we didn't find a cure for Aids either. doesn't mean it isn't real, its just a theory ATM
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr Lol don't confuse anger with confidence.
You keep drawing up INCONCLUSIVE health diseases (Aids, cancer,etc) to support a hidden gene.
Why are you comparing homosexuality to diseases?
We all are not born unisex, because we have dominance in A particular gene (X or Y)
That's like saying I have blue eyes, when you have apparent brown eyes but you have the small trait of blue from a parent. See?
There is no solid proof of it existing, so why defend it?
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya So your telling me since i dont have 100% proof that its real, to stop defending what i believe? I think inconclusive health diseases shows how this is another inconclusive theory, yet people are working on aids everyday, and one day we could find a cure. Disease, like genetics, are passed down from parents. Some people are born unisex, so you when you said "we all are not born unisex, your wrong. blue is a weak gene, but people still have blue eyes even with the brown gene. wrong again
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya So let me try to point out what you said.
"confuse anger with confidence" what are you confident about? nothing is proven (your words) but that doesnt make your argument any stronger
"compare homosexuality to disease" They both get passed down
"we all are not born unisex" There are some cases of this, so you should use the word most, not all
"blue eyes apparent to brown eyes" i am confused at your statement. The blue gene is weak, but still can come out in offspring, just like autism.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya Fact many people are born without or with dysfunctional sexual organs (penis, vagina, testicles, eggs) so whatever point you were trying to make is moot.
JerkItLikeABoss 2 months ago
yes gay people were born gay..just like straight ppl were born straight..its not learned..there have been so many studies on siblings who grew up in the same household but one was gay n the other straight..so how do u explain that?
Sweetheartbabez 4 months ago
@Sweetheartbabez I saw that one! or at least one of a few studies on that. Same family, same upbringing, and these twins have different goals. Both male, one boy likes boys while the other one likes girls. Everything down to favorite color, to barbies over cars. There is no way to explain it yet, but this is very strong evidence. I just hope people can deal with what a person wants. Stop changing your boy if he likes pink! Can i mention these twin boys were different from the very birth to ATM
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr yea very strange & interesting stuff.I am a Christian & I am straight & I have never been sexually attracted 2 a female.I mean there hve been sum that i thot were hot..lol but i nvr wanted 2 date them,nw show me a Hot guy & we have a different story! lol all the ppl who "turned gay" were clearly gay before or were undercover. its impossible to turn gay unless you are mentally unstable from being molested/raped that changed ur outlook or somthn the brain is extra-ordinary.
Sweetheartbabez 3 months ago
@Sweetheartbabez Well at least we have a few in common. Its ok to be physically attracted to people (boy and girl) since it doesnt mean you have changed what your looking for. Anyway i wish you luck, as more people need to be more understanding and forgiving.
crealkillr 3 months ago
I was raised in the church, brought up in Catholic schools all my life and over the years I learned that as long as you're happy and you're being safe then it's not anyone's place to judge, they're probably upset because they not getting any
wresltgal 4 months ago
I hate morons who think they can SPEAK for other people.
Keyscool 7 months ago
@Keyscool Only mormons? Since i know plenty of people who are not mormon, and still act that way. Its a problem with the parents, not the religious ties you have
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr I said MORONS. Not Mormons, you moron.
Keyscool 3 months ago
@Keyscool Haha you cant take a joke? wow looks like your naughty this christmas. calm down and stop being a grouch
crealkillr 3 months ago
lmfao BORN gay ???? its a mental deffect
Dalleman86 7 months ago
@Dalleman86 thats one theory
crealkillr 3 months ago
omfg i hate watchign this show, it makes me loose hope for human kind...so disgusting that these people cant have an open mind, and hes right there are no excuses for it!
SergeCWazukie 8 months ago
its a wig! trust me!
mikkelmode 8 months ago
right...so a gay boy choses to go through all that hardship by choice? nooo i dont think so
sushisalmon11 9 months ago
typical religious zealot, doesn't care about logic or evidence.
Moh5Itachi1 9 months ago
proof by contradiction. assume you are born gay. that means your butt is equiped/supposed to have something go in. this is not the case. so new base statement assume that a chemical imbalance causes you to like men instead of women, thereby for going the chance of reproduction, given that you can assume homosexuality to be a defect to which to be cured/corrected, since it is animal behavior to want to reproduce. QED. homosexuality is a defect
megamanxjac 9 months ago
OK now assume the opposite, that they are not actually born that way, its just something they like. If that is the case some homosexuals could learn to like other things,(as in the cases where pray away the gay actually work, yes sometimes ppl aren't just in denial) where as some really like this action to the point where they cant give it up(as in the cases where pray away the gay doesn't work), in such cases since no harm is brought to society it is ok for such ppl to continue their addiction
megamanxjac 9 months ago
@megamanxjac LOL your hilarious. Being a gay guy doesnt mean your going to do anal. Same with lesbians, doesnt mean your going to scissor (if you need you can look what those words mean, go ahead, i will wait for you)
homosexuality might be a defect, but its up to the person if they want that corrected. Its the publics job to deal with their choice. Also defect is your opinion, since some people dont see it as a error
crealkillr 3 months ago
I wish the guy who say learn to be gay was right but no, You're born gay. i'm gay myself maybe bi but i hate loving my same sex but i just can't help it.
Shihan01011 10 months ago
my friend's cousin was straight then he went to prison for 15 years, he got married to his cellmate for had 10 years...so i'm pretty sure it goes both ways
TylerWayMoore 10 months ago
I don't understand when ppl say it's a life style choice and they're gay. It's like they're choosing to be ridiculed and stuff that follows. maybe i just don't understand
ShaneThink 10 months ago
@ShaneThink you can change religions at any time yet ppl still get beat for the religion they choose
megamanxjac 9 months ago
to allow same sex marriage would be like allowing a 40 year old man to marry and have children with a 15 year old girl or allowing men to rape people as they please, or for women to engage in bestiality. Men who believe themselves to be gay simply have no self-restraint.
mistahJung 10 months ago
@mistahJung How in the hell do you figure that??? exactly where do you get your info? please please please tell me i REALLY want to know....... You sir are the reason why people think america is ignorant, your argument is invalid bro.. Seriously please go learn something cause nothing you said makes any sense and can't even be remotely close to being ins the same bracket as gay marriages
StonersAndBoners 10 months ago
@mistahJung You do realize that all the other sexual acts that you've described are without consent. Two men or two women who have sex are both consenting adults. The reason that it's wrong to rape a girl or engage in bestiality is because they did not and cannot CONSENT to have sex.
jamesgirl208 9 months ago
is that lady stupid or what? So if she gets raped will she turn gay too?
InfiniteSoybean 10 months ago
You go, gay boy!
I'm attracted to both men and women, and I knew that I was attracted to girls when I was 4 years old. The attraction is still there just as much as it was when I was younger. It's something that can't be helped and I don't consider it a sickness of any sort.
ValeriesGal 10 months ago
That dude doesn't know what he's talking about! It's definitely NOT Biological, it's social !!
Jivanya 10 months ago
Tht d definitely not Biological... It's
Jivanya 10 months ago
Not all are born gay. IE. PRISON
thetito626 10 months ago
You're born gay!
Hhahahahahaha, biggest joke EVER!!!
mrcritic1 10 months ago
Born Gay is a NEGATIVE. its the animalistic nature in us as humans to utilize our free will to be attracted to anyone or anything. you're never born gay, your mind helps you cope with the displays that are not formulated naturally to make them natural. if that wasn't the case then we would see same sex dogs breeding and other animals. we are the only species that make moral decisions.
Yungspliff 10 months ago
@Yungspliff Homosexuality is rampant in the animal kingdom.
MrEM4N 10 months ago
wtf, u gay when u feel liking the same gender, wtf has that to do with raping??? XD
BeBeAyumiReturns 10 months ago
Did someone hit the black woman in the face with a frying pan and then force her to fellate a beer bottle for 10 years? FUGGGGG-LLLY.
I think it was very brave to wear two brown mop heads over her scalp. Extremely brave and terrifyingly repulsive. Although it does help distract slightly to failure from the "slammed her face repeatedly into the pavement for a week" look that her face has.
Matrix29bear 10 months ago
Bald guy and black woman. Go back to your hole under the rock. You clearly have no idea what you're on about.
Jayce929 10 months ago
okay all of the videos iv watch..the black person is always making a fool of themselves *face palm* hate this side of television...please get some EDUCATED black people on these shows! Oh wait...actually...educated black people wouldn't want to be on these shows..okay nvm
TheCatsLastWord 10 months ago
ci sono due tipi di americani , il tipo medio della grande provincia è proprio stupido e purtroppo adesso è simile alla maggioranza anche in italia grazie al lavaggio del cervello operato dalle televisioni commerciali
convinzioneobastone 1 year ago
@YogiToad you are peeing off the bowl.
KoolkatGn 1 year ago
OMG!!!!! What a dumb ass! Where can we view this episode? I can't find it anywhere. Even on GSN
mark40511 1 year ago
LOL STUDIP, u know what i meant!
SFaily 1 year ago
to say it´s a choice is just studip, if gay people had a choice between hetero or go, do you really think they would choose gay, probaly the most persecuted people in history.
SFaily 1 year ago
that guy in the blue sweater seems like a cool guy.
TheBetchPlease 2 years ago
We know for fact now that there is a "Gay gene".
Argument over.
YouKnowWhereThisEnds 2 years ago
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dawsmart 2 years ago
All these people are idiots.Being gay is both not and is a choice.Some mean or woman are gay because something,either genetically or chemically precludes them to be this way,however,many gay men and woman become gay, as a lifestyle,particularly among people who are bi-sexual.Gay prejudiced toward heterosexuals and others who might be bi-sexual masks this fact through strong arm opinions about what it means to be gay.
YogiToad 2 years ago
I can't believe everyone is arguing this issue so terribly?! Honestly no one is nailing the issues, so many people are ignorant on this, this isn't funny at all!
MonstersNightmare 3 years ago 3
"A man an' a man can't hook up right!" Yea....she's a fat black ugly bitch...what does she know about that?
hl2isbestv2 3 years ago
Wow. That woman is an ignoramus. She must be from the south like most closed minded people. That guy is an ass too. (Baldy).
ImNotYourFriend212 3 years ago
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I paused it right after the fat black woman said that. I can't believe that there are people like this. So fuckin' ignorant.
RonFactor 3 years ago 3
Hahaha me too. I was like "wait.....what???"
Eximity 3 years ago 2
Personally, I think the only person who can answer "what is gay" is the homosexual.
Dunno how common heteros believe they could comprehend what we never practice.
Efferts 3 years ago 3
this bold bitch... come on... how narrow minded must you be,to think that some one is though to be gay...question... was he tought to be strait?... fuckin stupit.. i wanna go on this show..lol..
kalaikoa 3 years ago 2
Michael Billy rules!
thunderstruck665 4 years ago
I find this show to be amazing.
EndTheism 4 years ago 3
what a stupid ignorant (hetero) bitch for saying that gay people are gay because we were raped as children. Amazing to me in 2007 people can be so damn ignorant
dereka79 4 years ago 33
@dereka79 I dont mean to bother you, but its funny. Your comment says "amazing to me in 2007 people can be so ignorant"
Its amazing to me in 2011 people can still be ignorant
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr I asked a question earlier and you commented on it. (Memory loss is genetic)
How can someone be born gay (without using theories) Far from a stupid question...
You also replied to many comments, especially those revealing they don't agree with the gay gene.
So who is trying to convince people me or you? Use CONCLUSIVE FACTS not theories.
And now I see from your aversion of the question that there are none...
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya I missed that question i guess. Proof is in the 2 male twins that grew up the same house and one was "opposite" That is proof, and they are looking into a THEORY to why that is. So its not explained, but the proof is still there. Theories arnt always agreed. thats why there are so many. I am not trying to convince people, my coments dont hurt or help other peoples comments. The facts are there, black and white, just not proven why, but they are still facts. you assume there are none
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr I never assumed anything I asked a question. It was the FIRST comment YOU replied too...
That same "proof" goes for cancer, with the twin girls, one got breast cancer and the other didn't.
Proven result behind that is cancer IS genetic. Can't say the same about gay gene so its NOT PROOF.
That was a tested theory, a hypothesis. Don't confuse terms.
Something that has proof must be a proven and Vice Versa
Simple fact is you don't fully know the answer...
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya there arnt many 100% in science though. I didnt write about twin girls getting cancer. The cancer one is a theory, although the latest studies have concluded that children do get this gene from grand parents. That is proven but not finished. Studies are taken in steps. Parts of theories are proven, but not finished till the other steps are done. Still able to use the results, and just remind you that its incorporated in a theory
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya Your right, i dont FULLY know the answer. But if your asking because your "Curious" about the gay gene, your pretty much asking for what ever there is on the topic. As i hope you dont think you fully know the answer either, we were just discussing, and you was asking for 100% evidence when there is none. I should have just said there is none, and let you think you was right. Why do you think i would know all about this topic? No one does, so stop asking people for it then. You asked.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr Don't assume what I know because then you are no different from the prejudice people on that game show.
To end it all you taught me people get obnoxiously emotional about beliefs not sciences.
You jumped to my question as if you knew the answer 100%, so that's MY fault?? Uhm no
And if you don't ask questions how will you learn? by hear say? Leads to failure (every heard of the children's game telephone)
Its not about right or wrong its about truth. Dont take it so personally.
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya I am not prejudice, thats the difference. I was talking to you because i assumed you was a scientist. Scientists talk using some theories because NOTHING is absolute. You asked and i told you, and i would never say i know 100%, you ASSUMED THAT. Thats right about asking questions, but you need to listen to the answer and dont bypass it just because its not 100%. Hear say is all there is, although we are talking about scientific hear say, not regular.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr So you are saying i have to agree with the gay gene because its a theory and all theories aren't 100%??
Telephone is based off of hear say and proves how jumbled info can become through travel (perfect example why not to follow hear say...duh)
You just assumed I was a scientist...? Lol
You assumed I disliked gays because of 1 question asked.
You never answered my question because you said you don't know...
Maybe you need to research more before jumping to answer...
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya This is a disscussion. You dont have to believe anything, since i am not trying to force you on anything. We were disscussing our own veiws and opinions. i take these theories as true till proven wrong, just like the theory of the earth being round till proved correct. Hearsay is more like rumors. Telephone uses miscomunication from not hearing correctly. This is a science issue, so you should see it from a scientist veiw. I never assumed you disliked gays.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya Its hard to answer your question when you dont accept any answers. There are answers to your question, but because you dont accept theories, there isnt any answers you will accept. Even scientists on the study cant give you what your looking for. AND your whole argument is that a theory isnt a possible argument. Where is your SOLID proof?
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr Solid proof of what? I'm not trying to prove anything, YOU are...
I'm positive there is a scientist/someone knowledgeable in the gay gene topic, who can explain.
Just because you aren't sure doesn't mean every scientist isn't as well.
I never argued with you, I asked a specific question that you assumed you knew but didn't have THE answer too
so I HAVE to resort to accepting ANY answer...hmmm
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya Your going around in circles. I am discussing this issue with you, not proving a point to change your mind. I am sure a scientist out there does know more, mostly because they just learned something, all i said is what the average scientist knows. Common knowledge really. Same with me not being sure, although most scientist know the same amount as me. "but you didnt know THE answer" There is no one answer. You can resort to what ever you want, but keep looking, as theories is all
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya Here is the problem, and i hope you can comprehend it. In science there is facts and theories. If you dont believe in theories or speculation, then you cant discuss this topic because there isnt much fact. There are alot of things that were proven, but that only leads to more theory. You need to look up the word argue, since what you have been doing this whole time is exactly that. I didnt say you HAD to resort to ANY answer, but if your asking for an answer i did answer your question.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr Im going in circles, when you're discussing a question that all I asked was an answer for, and I'm arguing? What?
Science is NOT only theories and speculation, its also factual testings, mathematics and research.
I ASKED a question and you CONTINUE to give me statements that DO NOT answer MY question.
Then when YOU agreed that you didn't know the answer, you make it seem like I wasn't listen....real mature.
Why can't you just say sorry I don't know the answer, is it pride or shame?
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya Science uses theories, speculation, tested studies, research and math. But you cant only look at the research and exclude anything else. I said i was sorry on your profile, mentioning how i should have said theory instead of sounding like i knew 100% (although why would anyone assume that)
If you reread what YOU said, you will see that you clearly didnt understand what i said, so yes your going in circles. reread. Why should i be sorry when i answered your question. Theories are answers
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr If the person asking the question is telling you that you didn't answer THEIR question and there are still inconclusive openings in YOUR answer then maybe you really didn't answer their question...that's common sense.
Theories aren't always correct so they are NOT always the answers...and that's common knowledge.
Gay gene has been SPECULATED as the truth because of theories that are not even 65% accurate (I looked the % up).
That's why I said explain without theories. Good try but No
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya It really comes down to you wont accept any answers, and there for there are no answers i can tell you. Thats why later i said i dont know. What your asking no one knows, and theories are the closest thing. so stop saying the same thing over again. Theories are used with the understanding they arnt always correct, but you still use them and just point out what is wrong. "NOT always the answers" we still use them in discussions. You asked about gay genes, i told you what there was.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@Amatiya Look lets just end this. If you want someone to explain without theories, good luck. I (as said before) dont know what to tell you. so just end it as a truce because although this was fun, i said many times the answer your looking for isnt around at the moment. Any scientific discussion needs to be able to mention theories, and in not doing so, there is nothing more i can tell you. Also, Gay gene theory is past 65%, so i would like to know how old what ever you looked up was. Stop n bye
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr I am sorry, I didn't realize you posted your apology on my profile, but why would you put it there?
In any case you really didn't teach me anything new about the gay gene, unfortunately.
But you did help rebuild my patience on the site, so thanks for that.
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya If you want to learn more, look up the many theories on this topic. I mention that because some may have been proven that i didnt know about. Other than that i would suggest asking a scientist, and if your lucky, they will have something else, but i would hate for you to argue with them like i did, so maybe skip this step.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr Yeah i would hate to fall into another trap like this one.
Science isn't only based off of theories like I stated before so STOP saying that.
To find out about photosynthesis, there was a hypothesis, researched tests, then truth not JUST a theory.
And NO it is NOT past 65%, genetic factors 18–42% 2001-2009 (last recorded conducted study) Look it up...
See I just taught you something that you were supposed to teach me...Anyway good luck with life man.
Amatiya 3 months ago
@Amatiya I quote myself "Science is based on both research, theories, and studies. To not accept one because it MAY not be correct leads to errors"
2009 is mighty old when we look at the current day (Nov 13, 2011) You couldnt find anything more recent? Are you just using google? because there are actually science sites, as well as other places you could look. Dont be lazy and accuse me of learning something. I cant teach someone who is confused and not knowledgable on the topic at hand.
crealkillr 3 months ago
@crealkillr I posted the MOST recent information on your profile, Go look at it. (There is no newly CONFIRMED information for 2011 as of yet)
2009-2011 2 1/2 years is too old? Sorry not in biological scientific studies...
I'm far from lazy, how else could I painfully deal with your unreasonable opinions and statements.
Why are you teaching me something YOU SAID YOU DON'T KNOW...Seriously?
I'm not confused about anything you said because you've said nothing I didn't already know...
Amatiya 3 months ago
@crealkillr Gravity is a theory too.
JerkItLikeABoss 2 months ago
@JerkItLikeABoss Yes i know gravity is a theory also. That proves my point. Amatiya was arguing with me about using theories because she said quote "theories are not 100% proven". I know gravity is a theory, just like the theory of the big bang and the theory that all live started from the ocean, or that all humans originated in Africa. Proves the scientific argument that facts and theories are useable in these types of arguments.
crealkillr 2 months ago