New Order - The Him

[scrambang]

To me, this is more a joy division album, i only bothered with the following couple N.O. albums after

Movement, and they were utter garbage...too bad they sold out like pussy faggots depeche mode

[dang9669]

Every track on this album is incredible. Listen to it LOUD!

[TheLedward]

best track by a mile, but album is natural progression of joy div

[kams1001]

Im in the minority with friends and music fans when i tell them this is my favourite NO album.

Love the ending of this track, so intense and angst ridden.

[gtv6dave]

Damm, this is fantastic !!

[sss1923]

In 40 anni di vita non ho conosciuto pezzo più sottovalutato. Come si fa a non ricordare The Him come opera musicale di estremo valore culturale nel panorama del XIX secolo. Veramente un fiore di tenebra... un passaggio essenizle nella musica contemporanea

[360muse]

@sss1923 tranquillo, siamo in molti a non sottovalutarlo.

[Heckvaalhagen]

@sss1923 Da vero 

[miamormia]

128 people that are not deprived of great music.

[boardy777777]

its beautiful !!!best drumming of all time .x,

[brnmhn]

The last "Joy Division "album!A clearing of the decks to forge their own sound!

[kefmen]

@brnmhn Agree! For me personally the exact reason why I think this is the best NO album...

[TheAlmighty65]

i would have loved to hear ian sing this.

[smallcoffeepot]

Peter Hook: "...I actually liked Movement, but I know why nobody else likes it..." Who said nobody likes it?

[TheDrdaneeka]

wait, wait, wait, and there it is the pure release of music. Many people don't understand it. Oh Well

[TheDrdaneeka]

just great. Real Music

[cleantonight1972]

this really is somehow ageless music..i dont know why but it certainly is..

[ronaldvanderkleij]

For my funeral.

[orourkeda]

They just dont make them like this anymore

[hanoveryoutubization]

This has been my favorite album since 1983...It was the perfect storm

[kolaboy]

30 years old, and this album just keeps unfolding like a dark flower. Not many releases you can say that about...

[xyz32bpb]

@kolaboy You've got that right, I'm blown away

[orourkeda]

Superb Stuff. I hadn;t listened to this album for quite some time.

[ordureblanchie]

Chanson provenant, et de loin, du meilleur album de New Order. Et "The him" est, selon moi, la meilleure chanson de leur premier album en tant que New Order.

[dominique6259]

@ordureblanchie en effet,le 1er et meilleur album de New Order

[boardy777777]

best drumming ever on any tune of all time , fuckin love these guys my mancunian pariots

[revpunk1977]

this is great but then they did fucking blue monday....eww

[kams1001]

Love the ending of this track.... always gets about 20 rewinds when i play it.

[orourkeda]

Undoubtedly one of their finest ever tracks

[ianbond68]

this is a brilliant album its the most important album ever released think of another post death album thats as good it was just different for them to make it without ian so they hated the difference and missingness of ians personality and charactor

[Deaddancer69]

The first time I heard this, I was thinking it was some track Ian recorded before he died. It's eerie how much like this sounds.

[DallyWhitty]

"Small boy kneels, humble, in a great hall." I don't understand the belief that the lyrics were written by Ian. It seems obvious to me that they were written by Bernard ABOUT Ian, just like every other song contained on Movement. I think The Him is a fantastic song. Haunting. It somewhat reminds me of Heart and Soul meets Twenty Four Hours. I've always thought that the 'pause' that begins nearly four minutes in was a nice touch.

[boardy777777]

@DallyWhitty you talk sense .great fuckin music man from manchester.bit fuckin miserable though but were all miserable cunts in manchester !!!lol

[VOIDMK20]

Great track. Period.

V.O.I.D.Mk20 (MA)

[intheshadowlands13]

Bauhaus were an "o.k." band but they aren't even in the same league as Joy Division or New Order. In fact I believe some of Peter Murphy's solo stuff was beyond Bauhaus.

[CaptianOldschool]

 A major tribute album for Curtis.

One of the best songs ever.

Respect.

[clarlil53]

My favorite New Order album....

[robson1144]

@clarlil53 mine too

[AORCrazy]

This album is heavy and dark as any Joy Division albums so stop babbling.

[bryantm3]

i only wish ian could've been part of this album. it's what 'closer' was going towards but never reached... i guess that's why it was called 'closer'. the darkness of 'unknown pleasures' was great, but the synthesizers and keyboards never reached what their full potential was on 'closer'. here, they became powerful, but sadly without ian curtis. RIP.

[cbmdg8551976]

@bryantm3 I beg to differ I believe that Closer was pretty much the death hymn of Rock and Roll. It was truly the last great album. Now, music has risen from the ashes but it is totally different. Closer was the true and final death of what Rock had previously been. Does anyone recognize the difference in rock structure before and after Closer? Their is a noticeable discrepancy between the two.

[MisAnnThorpe]

@bryantm3 Have you ever considered the possibility that perhaps the title "Closer", was meant in the sense of; to put a close on something (life perhaps) rather than in the sense of to be nearer?

[MisAnnThorpe]

Bela Lugosi's dead!

[MisAnnThorpe]

For some reason the bass line reminds me of Bela Lugosi's dead. Coincidence?

[remifasollasido19]

@MisAnnThorpe

this bass line is much more variable and interesting where Bela Lugosi's dead is more the same all the time. but it's probably due to the typical 3 chord pop song...

[MisAnnThorpe]

@remifasollasido19 Bauhaus were a much better band than New Order. Unfortunately for them, they were never press darlings like New Order. They got given a particularly hard time because of the Bowie influence but it's not as if they were any more influenced by Bowie/Iggy/Lou Reed than New Order or just about all the decent 80's bands were. Funny, but I don't recall Suede getting slagged off for Brett Anderson's Bowie obsession. "Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be David Bowie"!

[locomotifx]

@MisAnnThorpe Are you kidding? They were catchy but otherwise, shallow and oft pretentious goth.

[MisAnnThorpe]

@locomotifx Are you really familiar with Bauhaus's music? The accusation that they were pretentious is a lazy one. Bauhaus were undoubtedly very theatrical but what most people seem to have missed is that Bauhaus were 1 of very few bands from that era who counterbalanced their pretension with a very healthy dose of humour. Not something that could be said of Joy Division nor particularly New Order. Explain what you mean by shallow? As for being "Goth", when they started there was no such term!

[locomotifx]

@MisAnnThorpe A spirited defence of an undoubtedly innovative and influential band. I do really like some of their sounds but you'll have to excuse a visceral reaction on the part of an old NO fan.

[locomotifx]

@MisAnnThorpe Same notes underlying the structure, essentially.

[newsreader]

30 years today.

Unreal.

[PLERKTA]

did Ian Curtis write this song?

[MisAnnThorpe]

@PLERKTA Listen/look at those lyrics. Do you really think Ian Curtis capable of such mediocracy? Assuming he were, could you imagine him then releasing them for public consumption? I seriously think not! It sounds like Sumner trying to write like Curtis and failing miserably.

[1toneboy]

it's not fast but slow enough :P

almost sounds like JD

[GTRyanNet]

One amazing song, I remember buying this on cassette after never being able to find it, this song just takes me away especially when it starts going fast.

[itwasacrow1985]

yes, i also feel ian wrote these lyrics

[evildust86]

Some days you waste your life away These times I find no words to say A crime I once committed filled me Too much of heaven's eyes I saw through Only when meanings have no reason They're taken beyond your sense of right (or wrong) Small boy kneels, wandering in a great hall He pays pennance to the air above him White circles, black lines surround me Reborn, so plain my eyes see This is the reason that I came here To be so near to such a person I'm so tired, I'm so tired

[boardy777777]

thats ian lyrics

[pedheadz]

@boardy777777 if you mean in the same vein yeah. unless you see him credited in the liner notes sumner wrote them. actually everything aside from ceremony (and in a lonely place) were new. to me this album is just as good as any joy division.

[Empyriumman]

@boardy777777 How do you know that?

[PLERKTA]

such a trippy song.

[sufferosa]

oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah \o/

[SCHULTZEH]

It was nice to be able to put the old records back in service and listen to my old favorites.

[Empyriumman]

Great song, probably their best song.

[cyllannnn]

I really can't even begin to describe how incredible this song is.

[TheJokerIsDead]

God!!! where were u guys in the early 90's such great and truthful comments true Joy Division and New Order fans!!!

[cubanzombie]

could anyone hear a similar drum pattern to atrocity exhibition?

[Erdling5]

Sehr dunkel & misteriös, kommt dem joy Division Stoff am nahsten

[shasta723]

yeah great track from movement, along with the opener, you can tell that this is an album strongly influenced by the bereavement of their former band mate, just because it is so sombre and melancholy, one of the many, really great stand out songs from the album, id really recommend checking out this album if you havent already prob new orders best album

[u2spaceboy]

My favorite song from Movement. Compelling, ominous, and beautiful all at once.

[MrGwynplaine]

I didn't know this song.. now I get -or think I do- new order's "dreams never end" final verses: ".. but never guess how the him would scream".. probably both songs are related.

[orourkeda]

I love this song

[kams1001]

My fav album too. New Order themselves dont rate it though apparently.

The last part of this track with the guitars  is mindblowing !

[shadowkunt]

i never get why people slate this album. Its fucking amazing.  At least as good as the JD albums. I guess people are fucking retards...

[shasta723]

they are probably shadowkunts

[NoahFlieger]

Ian Curtis would look at this album and smile

personally i think its a perfect album

[shasta723]

maybe smile isnt the best word there, but yeah, its not the type of album you listen to an immediatly want to smile, but yeah i think curtis would be proud of what I think is a really formidable and powerful, sombre album. and possibly one of the greatest albums of all time

[SOPHIADEKHILI]

@NoahFlieger of course it is

[TheRATTLEHEAD75]

@NoahFlieger 26088 viewers only!whattt a shame!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheRATTLEHEAD75]

@NoahFlieger tu as raison... ds la droite ligne de jd avec ce "supplément d'ame " de no!

[boardy777777]

@NoahFlieger your dead right pal

[NoahFlieger]

Im young and i think joy division and new order are amazing. This is my favorite album out of all of them.

Great song but my favorites are doubts even here and dreams never end from this album

[youwinoneinternets]

Yeah thoe two along with ICB are my faves from this album too

[KidA270]

does anyone notice that when the song gets to the more intense part, it doesn't really jump into it, there's still about half a second in wich every instrument has to increase it's speed. i wanted to know if i'm the only one who notices

[cman7142000]

all you need is an equalizer and some kiss ass speakers and you'll be fine....happy listening..

[cman7142000]

funny..I'm glad I can humor you...

[cman7142000]

I havent heard this album since the early

90's. great song.

i have go into the garage to find this cassette.

[AccyRed]

Unfortunately,I'm the same as yaself,gotta dig my old cassette version out,I never ever thought I'd admit to being an old fart,I was 17 when this came out,my little girl is now my age,where has the time gone,it's still a timeless classic

RIP Ian Curtis

long may New Order reign and pay tribute to you IC,forever in my heart

[KingHeD]

I too am now "old fart". my daughter who is 14 started listening to Joy Division through some friends..... I had all the Joy Division and older New Order on vinyl, but they have all disappeared. Hearing this again after long years has me with goose bumps and memories of times that were simple and carefree for me......this is like a time machine. Thankfully my kid has good taste in music...............

[lifesblood007]

I half expect to hear "Bella Lugosi's dead..." whenever I play this track.

[joydivisionlwtua]

Best song on a very underrated album!

[ordureblanchie]

Best song of the best album !

[elcoae9838fk3]

yup

[dragoon84]

Double agree. The album's centerpiece.

[teer12mg]

great song,great band

[EVANDROSAMPAIO]

Awesome Band, forever new order